Is Ghetsis The STRONGEST Pokemon Evil Team Leader?
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- Today I take a deep look at whether or not Ghetsis is the strongest leader of the Pokemon Evil teams and even how evil he is!
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I just always imagined that Ghetsis treated his Hydreigon so badly that it evolved early out of spite
It's also theorized that Hydreigon cut his right arm severely that's why we never see it
has max level frustration in b/w2
I would love this theory but iris also haves underleveled hydreigon
In B/W1, Every move Ghetsis's Hydreigon has were specifically picked to counter all of N's team.
@@thienphucn1 His hydreigon easily solo-ed my entire team, i was too overwhelmed, but tbh who isn't when battling "ghetsis"
Like how Giovanni evolved his Rhydon into Rhyperior. I can see Gheetis evolving his Bisharp into Kingambit and of course using ability capsule to change its ability into Supreme Overlord makes sense because both Gheetis and Kingambit are leaders.
Right, maybe in the anime since it’s supposed to be like another Pokémon journeys but w new characters. Maybe she goes to unova and runs into ghetsis and he has a kingambit
I guarantee Ghetsis will use a Kingambit in the Generation 5 remake.
If some post Unova Pokemon are available.
Unless if the Gen 5 remakes could be faithful it will give us the BDSP feelings.
@@kevinmcgiveney5128 if there will be a remake, honestly i don't want a remake, i want a sequel, so in bw kyurem is not introduced and it doesn't combine with any of the 2 legends, in bw 2 it combines only with one of them, if we got a 3rd game maybe kyurem could combine with all of them and become the original dragon, it could rival arceus
@@ultimatumdweebium2965, of course, it needs a remake. Picture your favorite game with characters in Chibi style.
Ghetsis is also the last Boss you have to defeat before Giovanni during the Rainbow Rocket arc if I recall correctly, this placement is very interesting as it implies that he is more powerful than Maxie, Archie, Cyrus and Lysander
@Eclipse I never thought about it that’s so cool!
Which is really funny considering that Ultraverse Cyrus is literally a god
@@BJGvideos I remember Cyrus saying he was taken by Giratina right before he completed it...
@@John-Stark A shadow was descending on him but it hadn't reached him yet if I recall
@@John-StarkCyrus Fuses with Giratina and began twerking throughout the universe as his main goal after losing and being left in the distortion world😂
also the best villain writing wise in my opinion. I love how he says in B2W2 "I tried to manipulate people's hearts, now Im going to control unova with an iron fist". badass
Yeah he aint fucking around in B2W2
He looks the coolest out of any bosses. Gen 1 may have best Post game character Red, gen 2 best content, gen 3 best battle facility, Gen 4 best champion, but Gen 5? Easily best Team and Boss. They’re fckn Knights and look cool with amazing themes and motives.
Ghetsis may not have been the most powerful villain in the franchise but without a doubt he will always be remembered as the most evil one, I still remember how impressed I was when in B/W 2 he literally tries to kill the main character, I certainly did not expect that😵
But even so, I still remember struggling quite a bit with that fight back in the day, definitely a memorable adversary.
He was indeed. I remember the first time I faced him with the mons I had and I never stood a chance. He beat me a LOT until I ‘cheated’ by having my friend trade me his level 60 Reshiram. I’d take on the Playthrough with new teams I wanted to use a few more times until I beat him much more consistently. His Ultra Moon battle was a challenge, but I was glad I could beat him back then. He doesn’t torment me as much as he did back then, but he enrages me a lot more. I’ll dearly look forward to facing him in the Gen 5 Remakes.
BW1 he literally tried “shutting” aka silencing the player after we hear his plans….
I think that the reason why Ghetsis has an underleveled Hydreigon is because BW1’s level curve is less steep compared to other games, so it would’ve been bad game design if you just fought a bunch of Level 50 mons but then Ghetsis throws out a Level 64 Hydreigon. Maybe they could have solved this by spacing out the mid-game gyms a bit more to at least raise the level curve so that Ghetsis could have a Level 64 Hydreigon.
Yea most champs have their ace in the mid lvl 60s and ghetsis is meant to play the role they usually play. That's the same reason why lance has 3 dragonites at lvl 50 and under
Or just not have the evolution curve in BW take forever, that would also work
Personally I would had said fuck it and let him send out such a high level Pokémon
@@princesscrystal6410 please no the league was already hard enough for me q_q
@@robertlupa8273deal with it lol
His Hydreigon was the bane of my existence in my first play through of Black and White. I also loved the fact that his Hydreigon’s personality is mad because it basically confirms that Ghetsis most likely abused his Hydreigon and that’s why it evolved so early
You say that Cofagrigus is a silly looking pokemon to open with, but consider this: Ghetsis literally opens the fight by showing you a coffin. He's symbolically telling you he's going to kill you.
I think Ghetsis in the sequels was made easier due to the fact that he isn't the final boss, unlike in BW.
"Cofagrigus is far more goofy looking compared to the rest of his team"
*Proceeds to talk about buffalo with big puffy afro seconds later*
WAS JUST GOING TO COMMENT THIS LAMO
In Cofagrigus's defense, it may look goofy but still poses a danger to humans in its Dex entry. (Specifically grave robbers.)
Also, I just recall the old theory that Ghetsis was planning to kill N since he has Cofagrigus to bait for Zoroark and his ace counters everything on N's team in the original games. And then in Ultra, he quite possibly did, since he has N's Dragon. (You know how serial killers take possessions from their victims? That's the vibe I get with him having N's Dragon. It's a trophy.)
Well that’s just plain horrifying. And to think, his ace was the only one I’ve ever wanted to use in a Playthrough that was from an Evil Team Leader.
Ghetsis was indeed a "Final Boss" challenge! When I battled him in White, I was already mentally drained from battling N
Broooo I thought I was the only one
I was warned of Hydragons so I had to have a hard counter to it for competitive. So I had a Scrafty trained to counter it. His electric leach was taken out by my Golem I got in a trade with Explosion( if it were a Nuzlock he made the ultimate sacrifice for victory).
He's so strong people don't realise and under estimate him.
When i faced him for the first time, I didnt know that he had this much coverage. I was so excited to throw in my favourite little scolipede in the face of his hydreigon... Only for him to get fire blasted 😭
N/People who are playingB/W for the first time:You're an irredeemable monster!
Ghetsis:Oh oh oh what took you so long to figure that out? Idiot!
And there’s the meme.
I've always been low-key, shocked that Game Freak hasn't come near the level of writing and storytelling that Gen 5 had. I understand it is low key because the underlying them was Ideals. But, gosh damn the characters and pokemon were so well made.
Idk I think SM, PLA, and SV far surpassed it
@@BJGvideosSM felt like a reality family Drama seen it many times. The other 2 are correct I agree aswell. Gen 5 really started this amazing trend of compelling stories in main series 😊.
Not only is Ghetsis the best written villain in my opinion I think it took me quite a few playthroughs of BW and BW 2 before i could beat his team on the first try
I wonder who would win if Ghetsis, using his Black And White Team and White Kyruem, battled against Volo and his team and Giratina?
Ghetsis is definitely up there as one of my favorite Pokemon characters because of how different he is compared to Pokemon Antagonists that came before him. He's one of the first Antagonists of his type to be introduced in a Pokemon game, and is arguably the best one.
I have never doubted how strong Ghetsis is and always thought he was the strongest villain but right now I'm conflicted if it's him or AI Sada/AI Turo.
Plus, imagine if BW remakes come out this Gen and Game Freak follows ILCA's footsteps. Ghetsis would have:
Lvl 54 Perfect IV Hydreigon
Ability: Levitate
Timid Nature
252 EVs in Sp. Atk and Speed
Tera Type: Poison
Held Item: Life Orb or Payapa Berry
Nasty Plot/Dragon Pulse
Dark Pulse
Sludge Bomb
Earth Power
Boom!
Nahh bro competitive teams in the games will be very very hard
His theme is haunting
@@ethanstoliker9061 Deeeenniss deeeenniss
Depends on if you consider the AIs to be villains or not. Their creators were for sure, but them?
i'd go for Dragon Pulse as the first move.
I think Toxicroak can be a monster, but they should've given it dry skin for water types and drain punch for a bit more longevity
Hydergion in black and white a special attacker hydergion.
Hydergion in black2 and white2 a physical attacker hydergion.
Idk if Ghetsis is the strongest villain, but he is one of the most menacing
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To sum up the team he has, it is basically just brute force that easily take down your own pokemon team. His ace is similar to the 4th generation champion, in that it is quite fast and easily oneshot or 2 shot most of your team.
I think Ghetsis is Stong as Strong as a Cynthia but I feel he got not vary handled well in the Black and white anime as we never see any of his Pokemon nor did we see him battle.
Well yeah Ghetsis's team is the same strategy as Cynthia's.
Ide say he's a worthy Villan in game as well as story I have a copy of pokémon white and I always find myself struggling with him as a battle I definitely appreciate gen 5 overall for the story(it's my favorite gen and ide say arguably the best gen game story wise) and his pure malice overall makes the final confrontation with him bone chilling 10/10 for a villain in pokémon game
Something to add here is that, in nuzlocke chalenges where you are not alowed to overlevel major boss fights, ghetsis is by far the hardest battle, due to you not having a chance to add new pokemon to your party in case they were defeated by N
Love the video and keep up the great work
White was my first Pokémon game, and the only thing I remember from the day I beat the game was that my E-4 team was Emboar, Unfeazent, Thunderus, and the Swords of Justice, swapping Thunderus for Zekrom after that fight, and beating N & Ghetsis on my first try.
Even if you had the counters for him he'll still frick you up somehow.
I still remember N doesn't even come close to ghetsis's prowess.
Man I can't remember my exact team when I faced him for the first time but I beat him. I remember having an actually difficult time. I think it was a decent walk in the park UNTIL he busted out that Hydra. Im pretty sure I had a Lucario, always do if I can. I had a Samurott too that definitely helped me alot in the game. I seriously cant recall the team I had but if it was a good well rounded one, and at a time was kinda fresh to the series.
Fun fact: Ghetsis's team is a counter to N's team, every one of his pokemon counter one of n'one,l, he starts with cofagrigus so he can use his ability againts zekrom and reshiram. Ghetsis plan was to deafet N after he deafeted us
And in USUM his team was built to counter Giovanni, this man is fucking sinister
Here's how I rank em. Haven't played SV yet so they aren't included:
Rainbow Giovanni
The other Rainbow team leaders
Cyrus
Ghetsis
Giovanni
Lysander
Lusamine
Archie and Maxie
Rose
Rose is by far the weakest. He is a worse Lusamine. He runs a company and has a tough team, but he never personally achieves ultimate power. He is incompetent.
Archie and Maxie are effectively tied, though Archie is a bit more antagonistic than Maxie. Once they awaken the Legendaries, they almost immediately repent and try to help stop things. Their terrorist groups, while imposing, end up falling flat, and their overall goals seem pretty short-sighted and silly.
The Aether Foundation is not really evil, they're just the bad guys. Most of their employees seem to be decent people, but just follow orders. Lusamine is both tough and unhinged and makes a great villain.. in regular Sun and Moon. She also actually achieves her goal.
Lysander and Team Flare are inferior versions of Team Galactic and I just can't take them seriously. However, Lysander himself is tough and comes pretty close to accidentally destroying life on the planet.
Giovanni is the OG villain and gets a lot of nostalgia points. He's also legitimately threatening, and Team Rocket serves well as a mafia-style organization that actively wants to steal, injure, and even kill. In-game however, their actual goals are a bit of a mystery. I'm not even going to rank Archer in this list because his goal of bringing back Giovanni is really lame, even if they do successfully shut down a second major city. They're the only group to do so.
Ghetsis is tough and clearly evil. Team Plasma is a threat, hiding behind altruism. They're also the first bad guys who actually make you stop and think about their goals, or at least their alleged goals. Though he does ultimately try to enslave Kyurem, his lack of interest in the other dragons is kind of galling, and his disinterest in revealing himself as the mastermind hurts him in the end.
Cyrus and Team Galactic are by far the most dangerous and successful group in any of the games. They pull off several notable incidents, blow up two lakes, capture the Lake Trio, and enslave the cover legends. Cyrus himself is very strong, and his goal of rewriting reality is very threatening, and he comes very close to doing it.
Mechanically speaking, the AU "Rainbow" versions of the team leaders are the strongest versions of those characters. Versions who actually WON in their universe.
But they are all bossed around and controlled by Rainbow Giovanni, who put together Rainbow Rocket. That's pretty impressive, having a criminal organization that can CONQUER WORLDS AND TRAVEL TO OTHER REALITIES. Also, he has Mega Mewtwo.
Good on you for not selling your soul for unfinished garbage its people like you that are genuine fans that want a good Pokémon experience and I 100% agree with your list
@@albertthepeacock8020 oh my god shut up
I would put Piers as the weakest leader honestly. Where do you rank Guzma?
Also if you've gotten to play it yet, how would you rank the..."boss" of SV? Whoever you think I mean by that
@BJGvideos Still haven't played SV.
I didn't count Guzma because he's not the boss of any of the Alola games. As a failed trainer and a middling Team leader, he would rank pretty low
Especially the music!
Amusingly, because Hydreigon lacks a Dark type move, one of the best Pokemon to wall it is Reuniclus, a Psychic type, because of its special bulk and not being weak to any of its moves.
I will always remember my first battle with Ghetsis. I will always remember how little me almost shat his pants during the entire battle. And plus his battle music theme is just legendary. I don't think we will ever get a Pokemon villain like Ghetsis again.
Yeah toxicroak in Ghetsis team is really weak especially when he faces psychic Pokemon.
Within the first 6 generations of me playing, Ghetsis is the most difficult battle I’ve had. Bar none. That Hydregion was just a bitch to me.
The most badass evil team where the hideout you have to battle the elite 4 to reach him...
Ghetsis Eelektross gave me so much trouble. I didn't know what type it was. It was an Eel so I used grass neutral damage. It's yellow so maybe electric, used ground no effect. That thing was a problem.
I'd like to think that any lower leveled pokemon like Hydreigon was somehow caught and evolved in pokemon Go before it was even available for us and that's how we her level 54 Hydreigon and Lances Dragonite
Imagine if he actually came back as a Villain for another region! Generally I don't by what the Triad said about him having second thoughts about changing his ways, because the dude has been shown to be truly evil through out the series (minus the anime because there I found him to be disappointing). Plus they don't need to have him with an organization, I could see him becoming a solo one man army.
His team if at the level of most end game champions( pokemon black and white is unique with the level 50 first league encounters) he would be the only trainer other than Cynthia expie Volo to be an EV and IV monster with his Hydragon being the evil mirror to Cynthia's Garchomp.
I always think it's funny people saying they were under-leveled with any of the champion fights or villain leaders. I've been playing Pokemon since Yellow and never once had that issue. If anything my Pokemon were always over-leveled. The only exception I guess was training for Red. Hahah I grinded for hours for that, and in Johto, it was so hard to level up your Pokemon at the time. Still it wasn't that hard to level up if you knew what you were doing. Even as I child I had the common senses to know how to train my Pokemon without too much effort.
Can you do a bow strong is Cyrus video ?
Just replayed Platinum. Cyrus is the toughest evil team boss in my opinion (rivalling N and Ghetsis). He keeps defeating me. Very strong
Ghetsis is definitely my favorite villain and his team, I think maybe after Cynthia he is the most powerful one
I feel like I have an explanation behind underleveled evolved Pokémon. You know how in sun and moon you can get an underleveled Salamance that’s level 4 or something? What if Ghetsis just caught the Hyedriegon when it was underleveled to begin with? That certainly explains how Hydreigon could theoretically be that level.
Dude is tough with a good set of pokemon in black and white but I feel he was nerf in black and white 2.
Ghetsis is a definition of a madman.
I would rank Ghetsis in the top 5, maybe around number 5 or 4... If we look at the most challenging villain fights, from my perspective, they are Ghetsis, Volo, Cyrus, N, and Guzma (or Rainbow Rocket Giovanni, who does use a Mega Mewtwo), my ranking would go 5. Guzma, 4. Ghetsis, 3. Cyrus, 2. N, and 1. Volo. If we include Rainbow Rocket Giovanni, then put him at 3, and Cyrus at 5.
nice video
i find it really interesting how none of his pokemon have any moves to heal or defend themselves except for ONE on his very first one .. i also feel bad for his hydreigon :(
Getchis is definitely the wickest character introduced in pokémon games.
Ghetsis' team nearly perfectly counters Cynthia's BW1 team in Undella Town.
Every Pokémon of hers is countered by one of his. Those he can't guarantee a win against is accounted for in some either very common strategy or a very uncommon BS strategy.
Even then, it also counters Alder's team. And Lance. And Steven. And Wallace.
Ghetsis planned to not only defeat N, but any and every champion at the time that could thwart his plans.
His team was built to literally take down every possible champion in the series at the time of Gen 5. He was so prepared that he actually thought ahead for the inevitability that other regions' champions would also try to stop him.
So, ignoring levels, he rivals champion teams
He found that Hydreigon in Kalos. I legit found a wild one that jumped out at me from a tree on Victory Road, and it was level 53. I’m totally willing to bet it was there just so GameFreak could claim that he got it legitimately.
In the remakes, Ghetsis should have Flash Cannon and a Focus Sash on Hydriegon since Fairy types exist now.
His stall breaker set is bruuuutal he always checked my stronger special sweepers, a grass sweeper is mandatory for his walls
I like Ghetsis. Personally I think his battle music is a bit underwhelming but it was a good fight at least.
Unlikely to be overleveled when facing him? I was like ten levels higher than anything he threw at me and he only managed to knock out one of my Pokémon (ironically, the Vanillite I'd trained to take on Hydreigon).
Also, Ghetsis wasn't insane in the first game. He was just evil, and so overconfident that he literally had no concept he could lose. He didn't lose his sanity until after that.
Wait ghetsis' 2nd hydreigon is level 52 in bw2 but his first one is 54 so does this mean he abused his 1st hydreigon died. And the second one knew which is why it knew frustration
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Ghetsis is formidable, I’ll give him that.
Ghetsis is the most evil, most vile, and most unsympathetic villain in all of Pokémon. He uses the mass’s ignorance to manipulate them, he abuses his adopted son to be able take over the world, and he attempts to kill two people: the protagonist of B2W2 and Lillie in USUM. If the developers went far enough with him he could’ve made Gen 5 rated T
According to PokeDad's tournament, Lusamine is stronger than Ghetsis. Though it also didn't include Gen IX... xD
I feel Chairman Rose would of been a threat if not for the forced exp all
He's number 1 in every aspect with Pokemon villains. He's the strongest. He's the best. And he's the most evil. And he was the only one to defeat me (unless you count AI Sada but I don't really see her as such)
Yeah if the AIs can be considered villains would have to hinge on how much free will they originally had when the professor was alive. Did they willingly go along with these plans at any point? Did they only come to realize how destructive it would be after the professor had already died? Or did they resist the plan during their creators' life and were tied to the PPP as punishment? We're not given a time frame for a lot of this, nor any information as to what things were like between them.
Because during the events of the game, the AI is a precious bean who deserves much better than they got. But we know almost nothing about the events prior to that.
I'm sorry but Ghetsis compared to a loy of evil villains is terrifying to me. More than Lysander's plan to basically whipe out human life, see that just seems like thrown together but the way they did Ghetsis, if i met this man in real lfie I'd be scared out of my mind. So definitely the most evil of them all. And most powerful cause his time has been the only team i struggle against constantly no matter what.
Ghetsis: Oh? You are approaching me? Instead of running away, you are approaching?
Me: My swords dance boosted Excadrill can't setup without getting closer.
Yes.
I didnt really have an issue with him. I outleveled him by 10+ levels and my team pretty much one shot his.
I think his team was one of the most well-rounded out of the evil team leaders at that time. But I think it is hilarious that a manipulative person like him has such a brute force approach. Also, considering his weakness to fighting types, using his only counter to them as a starter is very questionable. Hydreigon as an ace is very good, though.
G cis best pokemon manipulator
Volo: I’m literally right here
Volo I will say might be stronger than Ghetsis but Ghetsis IA way more evil then Volo I'd say because Volo may not have completely changed to good but Ghetsis never changes completely he is unredeemably unreversibly evil and psychotic
@@KitomiKotiri Ur right about Ghetsis being more evil he is definitely more evil.
Volo isn't a leader though.
He may be a powerful villain but a horrible trainer if his Hydriegon has to run Fustration of all moves.
Before watching don't know if the strongest but definitely irreversibly the most evil villain the only one that can be near him is Giovani but Giovani doesn't have as twisted of a personality as Ghetsis imo
Giovanni still has a code of honor and (at least according to Masters) is shown to be proud of Silver, despite also being a terrible parent.
I'd even go as far as to say he's worse than Lysandre or Cyrus and they basically both tried for genocide. (They're more tragic villains and doing what they feel is best for the world.)
The only one who comes close to being as pure a sociopath is Volo, but it doesn't really hit as hard when it's stuffed into the last 10min of the game, when we have a lot of interactions with Ghetsis to see how much of a bastard he is.
@@13CrystalHeart well it's also implied that Volo changed afterwards like giratina in the pokedex but in different ways he passes down the story or something either way he changes after not completely good but became a slightly better person afterwards unlike Ghetsis and Cyrus had a Crobat and also in platinum apparently liked giratina's world so was fine with that and Lysander also gave the player the option to stop the weapon but that admin/scientist (whatever he was) had other plans
Imo Ghetsis was underwhelming as a league champion, but he's much more memorable than the likes of Archie/Maxie 2 in Emerald for example because of how well constructed his team was by comparison.
I don't think he lives up to Steven Stone though, at least not in raw power. His cunning and immorality was what made him such a great character, and made Giovanni seem like a nice guy by comparison. Maybe some more gimmicks could've translated that better into him as a trainer but I had a harder time *getting to* him than I did *actually beating* him when I played BW and in the second games he was *even easier*
I was disappointed when he wasn't the big bad
How is Seismitoad not goofy-looking?
Ghetsis decided to change his Hydreigon, which is honestly a monster move against casual players, which make up most of the community. My sister got slaughtered by that thing at least 3 times. Meanwhile had zero issue with his BW team.
"Is Ghetsis The STRONGEST Pokemon Evil Team Leader?" ****YES.****
I am convinced that he is the sole reason (that has nothing to do with Smogon, anyway...) why the Fairy type even exists, and that it's not a coincidence that Hydreigon, a Pokémon that actually out-uglied Whitney's Miltank by an Unova mile in B1/W1, is 4× weak to the type. Thanks to the Fairy type, I was able to snap his Hydreigon's neck like a twig in Ultra Moon!
bruh intentional lol
Eh, he's pretty good. But I think the robo profs are stronger.
During Ghetsis fight, his Hydragon was one of my hardest challenge, hydragon out speed my whole time and one shot my whole time and I lost like 7 time lol if any npc manges to do beat me even once, they got my respect
The mere idea he is weaker than Giovanni is absurd to me
How is strong he?
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He cheated, he’s not strong cause he early evolved hydreigon
He probably tortured the Zweilous to make it evolve earlier
Ghetsis is hot
Ghetsis isn’t the best as battling. He’s a master tactician.
it just occurred to me: like father like son.
N's Zoroark has Night Slash, which can deal with Cofagrigus, Flamethrower for Bisharp, and Focus Blast for Bisharp, Bouffalant and Hydreigon.
this mon, if it's lucky enough to pull it off, can take care of 4 out 6 of Ghetsis' mons.
on the flip side, Ghetsis' Hydreigon has Dragon Pulse to deal with the legendary dragon, Surf deals with Archeops, Fire Blast destroys Vanilluxe and Klinklang, and Focus Blast takes care of Carracosta, Vanilluxe, Klinklang and Zoroark.
their teams are mostly weak to Fighting, and their MVP is a Dark type with Focus Blast which, provided it doesn't miss, deals with basically half of the other's team.
see what i mean by like father like son?
Strongest? Debatable
Evilest? Yes
clearly not strong enough for detective gadget
Ghetsis is a hypocrite
Hot take but ghetsis > N
Real
Wow early 🤯🤯
Cyrus Is Way Better