Therapist reacts to MURDERER by Ren
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- Therapist anlyazes the lyrics of "Murderer" to discuss the ways in which people use violence to protect and through the expression of violence there is a natural exposure of wounding. When we listen to this song we can get specific about who we want to perpetrate violence against and use it to understand our own wounding that is causing that desire.
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Fun fact: TH-cam supressed/limited the song Su*cide (which is why it is spelled censored so he could get it out to everyone), and this song wasn't. Ren made a big point about the hypocracy of censoring one that is anti-, and not the one that is "pro-"
Jeez, came to say this same thing. Didn’t have to go far. This was the first comment I saw, lol. Good looking out 😂
This is super interesting!! Thanks for sharing! - T
For real?! Had know idea.
What about this fact is fun
@@tom5720 so many things
He did an acoustic version of this song which is equally awesome. Also, just a reminder that Ren has a track called "Sick.boi part 2" and "For joe" is a continuation of "suicide". "Seven Sins," "wicked ways," and "Genesis" are also songs I think you will dig. Would also like to see you react to Chinchilla's "Fingers (live)" please
Seven Sins delves deep into the abyss of Ren's pain during the worst of it. His pen is incredible.
So….Ive heard this song more than a few times and I’ve watched many reactions to it. But tonight I’m here at a Mexican restaurant drinking Margaritas after a long 12 hr day of day 30 something of a shutdown and laughing my arsss off at the facial expressions of this reaction to a silent screen. By far my favorite reaction to this REN classic. Now with just one request to this reactor that I find so animated with her expressions, please do the live performance of this song so I can watch you be blown away just like i was!
I prefer the acoustic version done in LA slightly, but then I get confused and like this one better. Hmmm...
Seven Sins might be his best song overall. Which is really saying something
The follow-up song is a song called "Animal flow" where that kidnapped guy makes a cameo. That one.has lots.of references to Orwell's ""Animal Farm"
I never caught that. Makes sense though. Thanks!
I seem to remember that for some reason the videos got released backwards. This one should have been first then Animal flow but something happened.
Animal flow was technically released before this though?
@@Turvok I believe so, but the videos got switched somehow.
@@Turvok Yep. Full circle.
I can't wait for the full version of "The Tale of Jenny & Screech"
When you get to RENs the tale of Jenny and screetch make sure you do the full trilogy in one reaction. Mind will be blown
Well as breaking thing bown like she does it's gonna be 1h video ;-) loll
@@celinel9750 You say that like it's a bad thing.
Oh wow! You should see the acoustic version of this. Believe or not, it's actually better! Great reaction!
This song really underlines the issues with how we discuss and/or censor specific topics. Ren has mentioned how frustrating that he could put this out, openly discussing literal murder, with no censorship, but his song Suicide carries a warning and is restricted by youtube, only allowing adults who are logged in to view it. Social Media is getting these things so wrong and not helping.
Also: really hope you took time to listen to "For Joe". It really is an important follow-up to Su*cide, and legitimately helped take the narrative to a more of a healing place.
Good commitment 👍💪
Given some of the subjects you touch on in this reaction, I recommend you take a look at the Tale of Jenny and Screech (full version)... You'll see a lot more of Ren's range and artistry, but be prepared for a long (and traumatic) one though
yeah I keep recommending that one for her as for me it's up there with Hi Ren as his best couple of tunes
@indoctrinationtheory@@DistrictWitch stay tuned.....
@@HeartSupport two words... that's all it took to staple my a** to this chair and glue my eyes to the screen! hahaha I am so eager to see your take on it. Also, this leads me to think you've already done it (and it's probably in edit) so .... *big hugs* too... way to go champ...
REN is the opposite of violence 😊 in the rap world, you could think of this song is a total flex.
Great reaction once again. I think you should maybe do the tales of Jenny and Screech full version next
Warning hard hitting but worth a listen for sure
This was a metaphorical warning shot to other rappers, "Don't play with me or I will body you". Hip Hop slang for out rapping another rapper.
Ren is one of the least violent people you'll meet. During the last year while he was rolling out his hip-hop SICK BOI album, he covered just about every style of rap extant, including Flex Rap and Gangster Rap, both of which are incorporated in MURDERER. He even managed to get himself into a rap battle just so he could show he's capable of doing every style of hip hop to the highest degree. His diss track, DUMB KING COME, is WELL worth analyzing, but this one is pretty simple. He's just showing he can be a gangster and a flexer with the best of them, and he CAN.
What's awesome is that King Dotta is now doing reactions and he has been reacting to Ren's catalogue...so far he loves Ren! I've really come to enjoy his channel and I'm soooo glad that Ren shared his rising tide!
Oh the roller coaster of the Full Tale of Jenny and Screech will be fun to watch
Great reaction 👏
Please do more Ren! (“Jenny/Screech/Violets Tale” would be awesome).
Much love from the UK 🧡
Nothing heavy in this one! 😂😂😂 Ren has a bunch more that would be more…substantive. Chalk Outlines. How to be Me. Insomnia. Depression. Crutch. Patience. Money Game 3. Power. Genesis. But it’s good to see him just have fun once in a while.
I expected everything on this list! I would also “say ready for you” and diazepam would be two other songs I would add to your list
Mania phase, when you're on the top of your world. Nothing else matters. I have seen and experienced this personally.
Tale of Jenny and Screech and Violets tale is all bout generational violence and the echoes of that in peoples lives.
Great reactions btw!
Ren keeps things %100 real and makes you think hard about the meaning behind things, he's an absolute genius who weaves a story with amazing music to paint a picture, hopefully to take something positive from the darkness.
Ren is just pure power in the form of words and thoughts. 😎
Your expressions were killing me! This song leads into 'Animal Flow'.
Lotsa love from Texas.
I think you will have a field day as a therepist with Ren ’Lost All Faith’
Here for these Ren reaction for sure. Always interesting hearing things from other angles.
SERIOUSLY....I think it's time for you to do the Jenny, Screech and Violet videos....I think you would have a field day with the story telling of it. That is the reaction I am waiting for if you do!!!
stay tuned......
The hook 'Murderer' is actually from a Barrington Levy Reggae track, 'Tell them a ready' and Ren built the song around that.
Ren has actually done a song regarding domestic violence, it is one of the tracks in "The tale of Jenny & Screech - Official video" trilogy
I am glad you are venturing further down the Ren rabbit hole. I have enjoyed your reaction videos to them.
Fun fact, rumor says the guy against the right-hand side actually called the police. But, Ren had called ahead of time to warn them that might happen.
I've watched all of your Ren reactions and I have loved them all. Nothing better than watching a reactor slowly falling in love with Ren! Don't worry, we have all been there! lol
You need to react to the acoustic version, it's an all different beast
please do Ren seven sins next
You did an excellent job of understanding the FLEX of this piece. Flex is a part of protection. That's one of his best friends in the trunk. Wondering if you have watched Jenny & Screech?
The cinematography/camera movement of his videos is genius. Long shots. Gorgeous.
Ooh but the acoustic version of this lives in my head rent free
Really like your approach and enthusiasm to Rens music. The beautiful thing about Ren is that he will always keep you interested the more you dive into his past and present music.
Who else but Ren does songs called Murderer, and Suicide, and puts such a catchy beat on them? I find myself humming and singing out loud in public....-murderer-; or -suicide suicide suicide-. Thanks Ren
Part of rens psychosis was he used to see people in animal masks, he discussed it when he was taking about his track animal flow. He also mentioned how he connected with George Orwell's Animal Farm through his own episodes.
i found your channel in the past few months. I've had serious struggles with mental health for decades. Your reactions make me smile and sometimes laugh. Thank You !
We need the Jenny and Screech trilogy please! 👍🏻
Now, react to the acoustic version of 'Murderer'. Ren is a chameleon with his music.
Next one , the guy in the trunk is used as a prop in the Animal Flow song :).
I take this as an extended, visual-musical metaphor. Comics KILL, poets SLAM, and rappers MURDER. It's a skill-building competition.
The “Murdererrrrrr” part of the hook (and perhaps the chord progression itself) in the song is inspired by the song “Murderer” by Barrington Levy
A while back on Instagram, Ren posted a clip of an interview with Quentin Tarantino:
Interviewer: Why do you make films that are so graphic and violent?
QT: Because it's fun!
Awesome reaction, really recommend the live acoustic version, thank you that was great 🙏🦉❤️🐊👍
Chalk outlines, Fred again , Sevin sins ,money game part3. Tale of Jenny and Screech including violets tale . There is a full video of all three together . It’s essential you watch them in order .
Love your reactions 🙂🇨🇦🍻
Ive has a hard time dealing with mental trauma the past few weeks, your videos move me so much and really make me think about what i really should be thinking and doing> Plus Ren is freaking amazing, Hi Ren makes me still cry sometimes
“Lost all faith” is a must!! Very deep. AND chalk outlines 😁
Really enjoying your reviews👏👏
Ren is one of my favorite artists out there. Epic song! 🙌🏻
Love the Ren reactions, Have watch all leading up to this one, Please release more from Ren!
Making music is what kept Ren sane during his health struggles. And that's what he wants to protect
that's why I like that the line in Sick Boi that says "essentially your mind is making you sick" also kind of sounds like "essentially you mind is making music"
This channel has been a treasure to find; it so fits my kink of using music for therapeutic reasons, donation incoming.
Rens neurotic versatility is the definition of creative expression. Just because others interpret words differently that's a reflection of your own truth. I love this song to me and it speaks to me not about murdering people but murdering the negative tethers that hold you down in life so you can grow.... I relate this song to Cypress Hill
Shoot em up
Watch the tinydesk concert npr. It casts good reflection towards inverted intentions
thank you for reacting to my favourite artist ever love your reactions please please more Ren ❤❤❤
Dive deeper, his older stuff like diazepam, crutch etc
Yes. Insomnia and Hold On would be my top 2 for next.
I like this take on the idea of violence and self preservation. Often times, especially with men, all thoughts of offering help to the offender of domestic violence are squelched. Perpetrators of domestic abuse are flagged as being beyond help by society, unredeemable. In a past relationship I was subject to relentless verbal abuse by my partner and much to my shame I lashed out a few times and struck them. When we separated I had to reconcile with my weakness in order to move forward and not wallow in guilt. I learned that when I embraced my weaknesses, violence stopped. By learning to love myself for everything, good and bad, I relinquished all triggers towards violent tendencies. Ego and pride are the biggest obstacles I had to face during this process, but overcoming those have brought me into a place of internal peace. I no longer feel violent impulses towards people, though there are many things that make me angry. Now when faced with things that anger me or make me feel uncomfortable or attacked, I instead feel the impulse to explore the whys and whats of the situation. Instead of rejecting my own pain I embrace it and turn it into empathy and curiosity. I seek to understand those who oppose me and to learn from them. "And I must not forget, we must not forget, that we are human beings." Abusive people can be reformed when they are seen as victims and treated as humans, when they are taught to practice vulnerability and self-love. Walk blessed my humans.
I think that, therapeutically speaking, you'd get a massive kick out of Chalk Outlines with Ren and Chinchilla. The live version is the best one. It's sublime! Plenty for a therapist to talk about 😉
Also their "How to be me" collab, and Chinchilla's fingers.
I'm loving your angle on music reactions. Thank you.
The way this is filmed is next level just like REN’s Rhymes while he still punches his message home .
I love your reactions. You MUST react to manchester orchestra - the silence (life version).
Chalk outlines and how to be me LIVE f’ed me up!!!! He thought it was interesting he couldn’t straight up spell out suicide but murderer was fine he was like hmmm? lol! He’s AMAZING!! You should check out the acoustic version of this song it’s BEAUTIFULLY BEAUTIFUL!!!!
If you want to see two powerful pieces of art by Ren, Penitence and Crutch are breathtakingly haunting and beautiful at the same time. Other suggestions are great too. Getting messages out through music is such a powerful tool.
The acoustic version is also fantastic! You should check it out. Actually, any song you want to listen to from Ren is good.
Would love to see you react to his 1M subs thank you video. It think it reveals a lot about who REN is.
Gotta do full version of Jenny and Screech ❤❤❤❤
I love this channel. I've learned a lot about myself. Violence is also used as pleause. If I'm not mistaken, only human beings do that. I know firsthand. The men that tortured me, loved every minute of it, until I got free. I could smell it. When the Fight, Freeze, or Fight resopnse kicks in, I never freeze or flee. Not anymore.
I haven’t listened to ren talk about the pig mask but I get the feeling that it represents the fans. Or people who find his music who may or may not be fans
Can we just talk about how smooth that was when getting out of the car with the camera
react to Suffer by Get Scared!!!! (the music video and the lyrics focus a lot on the lead singer’s addiction)
If and when you do the trilogy. Afterwards, for yourself, check the 360 version where he plays it for a crowd live as he talks about what he was thinking and meaning when he wrote it. Inspiring
we are really working through these and it is quite the process. Discussing and understanding the story being told. We will check out that video.
Think you’d really appreciate his duets with Chinchilla. In particular How to Be Me and Chalk Outlines. Also the trilogy of the tale of Jenny and screech (and violet).
Sure you’re familiar with twenty one pilots but if not, Car Radio and Migraine would be good ones to start with
You should do the tale of Jenny and screech full next. (trilogy of 3 songs) it's Shakespeare level tragedy I think u may love.
I'm glad you are seeing the depth of Ren's talent. And exploring his rap and singing as well.
The acoustic version of this is fire also! ❤🔥
Tell me honestly that when you saw him walk up to that bag you didn't internally think "Oh, my!" Dude's a stud!
BTW, the sheer thing you're wearing under the zippy is very cute.
I’d recommend any song by Underoath, but more specifically ihateit or My Deteriorating Incline. These two (and a lot of there other music) is about the vocalist’s experience with drug addiction and he has a great way of expression his feelings
love your channel and welcome to the Ren rabbit hole..Please do the Tales of Jenny, Screech and Violet full version.
The REN rabbit hole has been such an amazing journey. Now that you have listened to Murder you should really checkout the live acoustic version. You will be blown away.
Have you reacted to Chalk Outlines or How To Be Me yet? Both are duets by Ren with Chinchilla. The live versions will blow you away ❤
Omg you really need to watch Ren's Jenny and Screech trilogy. It's long but I'd love to see the reaction to that. Also chalk outlines.
@HeartSupport have you checked out Dumb King Come by Ren his "diss" song in response to rapper King Gotta yet?
Subed for much more Ren!
The guy they put in the boot/hood is the guy that is tied up with his hands above his head in Animal flow, hint hint love to hear your take on this multi dimensional piece.
The live version of this amazing track is different enough to really enjoy, it.s acoustic. This is Ren just having fun and showing his skills. Chalk Outlines Live is OUT OF THIS WORLD. And like many others have mentioned the Full Trilogy in one go of " The Tales of Jenny and Screech " is Ren reminding us of the world we within, and not the Sunnyside! Loving your channel.
I am no stranger to my pain. Murderous thoughts generally come to me when confronted with vast inequality and destruction of resources. I feel that I want to defend humanity and life on Earth from that callous greed.
But that is not how it works.
The most effective way for me to defend what is sacred, is to heal myself, leaving less room in society for them to stay unhealed themselves.
Here's to everyone's individual healing journey💖
Amazing this was filmed in one take
I can't believe nobody's been recommending ren and Sam Tomkins What went wrong part 1 and 2 for you this will be a great reaction
Great reaction video thanks
Hey! I’ve just discovered ur channel cos I love watching Reaction vids to Ren’s Hi Ren cos they remind me I’m not alone. I’m a big but lazy fan of his so I know bits but not obsessed amounts… It makes me so glad every time new people find his music - because additionally to the obvious reasons in the reference it’s at least one inverse curve on a positively trajectory on a chart representing “something positive for once” (smiley) against so many other ‘charts’ we are bombarded with that seem-to-tend-to-be trending consistently in negative directions. (sad face)
Anyway… re. this video - I’ve got one observation to share while this is still reasonably fresh…
Idk if this is right or not and I understand how it might be missed and I recognise your profession and the mind-frame going in so I’m not being viscous at all and I completely get how when I say there might be something you missed….
I think you may have made an understandable incorrect assumption of this pieces narrative point of view? Unlike Hi Ren or Sick Boi, I don’t think it’s meant to be in first person. Rather, I suspect it’s intended, in part, as a Call-for-Awareness of Crisis to the socio-political issues of on the streets of old blue-collar cities and similar low-income areas across England… What they can get drawn into… How they are “expected to behave”… bravado, status, respect, etc.
It’s a Day in the Life piece, following a blow-hard who feels like he must do what he must for “CRED”, Ren is a master at subtle suggestion and inference, this is highlighted when we jumps in the car - watch closely how he acts, body language, etc. as he turns to talk to YOU, (who) in the backseat on this “Ride Along”… He is speaking directly to those young boys who might find themselves in very similar situations…
You can tell he’s uncertain, he changes, from the confidence at the boxing bag to the “I’m doing this even though I don’t really want to” vibe he attempts to veil to “His Boys”
This is my favorite hype song. Like, if I need to put on my big boy pants and take care of business, this is going on.
Can't wait for you to react to Chalk Outlines live! 😀👍🏴
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Awesome reaction and insights!
Am I the only 1 to notice when he opens the bottle it's right on time when he says 'breathe' and inhales?
You should check out Power by Ren, everytime I hear that song I pick up on something new about Ren and about myself. Aptly named because it is Powerful
Listening to your analysis of these lyrics and this song makes me curious how you would break down and digest Uninvited!
I think someone likes Ren boxing with his shirt off lol Not naming names but they sit at the top of our screens!!! 😁😁
Money Game parts 1 2 and 3 are also brilliant.
The tales of Jenny and Screech full is a modern tragedy and blows you away.
A fun video is Losing It 😄
i love the ren journey!
You have to remember Ren is a student of the Rap, and Hip Hop game. Ren us a true MC. He is saying he is at the top of the game right now. These other so called rapper's, or MC's are not even on the same level, let a lone above where Ren is. He is a Murderer of the beat, the lyrics, and the flows. He is also, a Murderer of any artist who wants to try to step up and flex on Ren. He won't only beat them at this game, he will straight murder them. They can't even touch him, let alone beat him.
Penitence with Molly McKinna is a powerful,after breakup self harm song ny Ren. Lyric video.
Or Crutch which was done at his lowest and sickest at 25.
Speaking of violence... looking forward to see you react to the three tales.
Ren has quite a few "brag rap" songs where he is really just talking about his skills. His ability to create double meanings and dark imagery is impressive. He's just having a laugh on this one.
You should watch Ren's diss track Dumb King Come