Therapist reacts to The Tale of Jenny and Screech by Ren

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  • @DadDaughtersandDrinks
    @DadDaughtersandDrinks 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +586

    One of the best camera shots ever - the pan up into the spiral staircase as he sings "She never stood a chance". The spiral representing the never ending cycle of violence. Just perfect.

    • @gregcampbell2977
      @gregcampbell2977 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      And the resonance too... amazing!

    • @chacetheshot
      @chacetheshot 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      The focus change on he pinched her eyelids and pulled them up

    • @petterlind
      @petterlind 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That bit ALWAYS gets me

    • @Hopz47
      @Hopz47 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yup Devil comes to Dance ,,Pure chills down the spine ,not many artists can do that to me if any ❤

    • @PerryAndPablo
      @PerryAndPablo 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Always felt like that was so top tier. Especially bc the way he uses his voice there too, it feels like he’s ascending the stairs with the camera pan. Insane.

  • @Winchester1973
    @Winchester1973 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +283

    "Behind every explosion of violence is an implosion of pain" - wow, that's a good one!

    • @gergopahollo
      @gergopahollo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I may or may not have cried a little hearing that.

    • @protojayplays6169
      @protojayplays6169 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The implosion of pain is usually what pushes out the explosive violence I went through and I feel on a daily basis.

    • @AARONANKRUM
      @AARONANKRUM 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I never have that since I black out when I being so violent as to hurt someone physically and have no memory what happened. Others have to tell me what I've done. Yes, I see the results but seems detached from me.

  • @baklivak
    @baklivak 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +648

    An old Ren song called "Crutch". It was made before he was diagnosed so u can see his minset back then. Its an awesone and under appreciated song. I would love to hear a therapists pov of it. And his appearance and portrayal is moving

    • @Dr.Brummel
      @Dr.Brummel 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      Yea, brilliant song. Absolutely underrated IMO. There are not that many reactions to it either. And it has a great no-budget video as well. 👍❤

    • @ehhhh5536
      @ehhhh5536 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      This. please do crutch!

    • @raisnaix
      @raisnaix 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Big agree!

    • @serendipitish
      @serendipitish 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Me too. And the song covers such a seldom-discussed aspect of a person's mental health journey. ❤

    • @Emilie-one
      @Emilie-one 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Yes! Please watch this. It is special.

  • @75jvs
    @75jvs 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +546

    At the end of Screech's tale: "Violence creates violence, it is a cycle!"
    Me: "Ow you have no idea how big this cycle is going to get..."

    • @chaoticwonder3278
      @chaoticwonder3278 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      I am utterly gobsmacked. This young man continues to impress me every time I hear more of his music and his story.

    • @bradspunaugle8180
      @bradspunaugle8180 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      That is a very profound statement and I 💯% agree it's getting so thick you can almost feel it in the air

    • @Monica-sw9ld
      @Monica-sw9ld 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😢😢😢

    • @BreCarter-o3e
      @BreCarter-o3e 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I literally said the same thing lol

    • @LudmilaT.
      @LudmilaT. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I interpret Violet as metaphorical. Allegedly, Ren wrote the first two tales based on an actual incident of a young boy killing a young girl and then getting shot. In the real case (if this story is true), it's unlikely they were related. But they were likely both children of generational trauma.

  • @KarbonSym
    @KarbonSym 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +110

    “Violence is a cycle” She just foreshadowed the whole trilogy without even realizing it to its full extent during Screech’s Tale. Taylor you crushed it yet again, absolutely love your takes on the reaction/breakdowns you do.

  • @elektrovert
    @elektrovert 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +98

    "If we don't have compassion we likely don't have enough context" - so, so true!

  • @vanwhambam
    @vanwhambam 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +207

    I'm a CSA survivor and Ren has actually inspired me to share my own story. I'll be forever grateful to him for helping me find my voice.

    • @Fenthule
      @Fenthule 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      same.

    • @sirweebs2914
      @sirweebs2914 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      I googled what it means and I found out you are a survivor of Community-supported agriculture, my condoleces.

    • @vanwhambam
      @vanwhambam 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      @@sirweebs2914 Thank you, it's tough living in this soiled world.

    • @sirweebs2914
      @sirweebs2914 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@vanwhambam :D

    • @syyneater
      @syyneater 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I just love this interaction, you all are awesome!

  • @justinec3294
    @justinec3294 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +205

    ''Violence is a cycle'', than proceed to Violet's tale. Your character analysis is just precious, thank you!

    • @alancraig782
      @alancraig782 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      A subtle but powerful line that hits is "turning to the doctor Violet broke her silence and she cried if I'm to die, please let my babies stay alive". The whole way through the song she's silent right through the worst moments of her life until literally no one left is able to speak up for her and she breaks the silence. This reaction was awesome and picked up on the ending bombshell beautifully 👌

  • @anna9072
    @anna9072 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +588

    Ren wrote Jenny’s tale after reading a newspaper article about a teenage streetwalker who was killed. The line “it’s such a shame” was in the article and Ren felt it was such an inadequate response to the situation. I think the others just grew out of Jenny’s tale.

    • @robmullins
      @robmullins 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      Yes, consider that Screech is 14 yrs old. Well, so is Jenny. And, in high-heeled shoes, walking the same path late at night. Knowing Violet's story helps us understand how both Screech and Jenny each had unsavory youths. It is such a shame.

    • @SR1Records
      @SR1Records 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      I recently had to do my English exams again because i didn't get a good enough grade the first time i did them. I snook in "and it's such a shame" at the end of both exams 100% because of this story line!

    • @twistedpixel756
      @twistedpixel756 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@SR1Records here's hoping that the word snuck wasn't a part of your exams. 😅

    • @sketchtherapy1218
      @sketchtherapy1218 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      the kid who murdered the street walker also died in the story

    • @ricci8497
      @ricci8497 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Violet's tale was also due to a article printed in a paper of a woman beaten and killed who was pregnant

  • @Januaribarn
    @Januaribarn 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +191

    One thing we do learn about Violet is that she deeply loved her child(ren), so much that it makes her break her silence and fight for them ❤️ that’s the detail that always gets me emotional every single time !

    • @Mr.Ekshin
      @Mr.Ekshin 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What got me was the moment where we figure out that Jenny is also 14 years old... and then realizing that she's already an experienced prostitute living on the streets.

    • @E-d1d3
      @E-d1d3 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      We get told a ton: 14 years old, high healed shoes, walked that street a thousand tines...

    • @Januaribarn
      @Januaribarn 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@E-d1d3 that’s true! But those things we learn about Jenny and not Violet who I was referring to :) but let’s say your comment included what we get told about Violet instead then your point still stands *but* how much she loves her babies is the only thing we learn from her personally as that is the only thing she actually expresses throughout her tale, the rest we learn from a narrators pov :)

  • @scottywalknroll
    @scottywalknroll 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +331

    Whos Violet? Those are now infamous words 💯🍻☘️✌️

    • @williamkeith8740
      @williamkeith8740 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      I was waiting for her to say it - didn't disappoint.

    • @MrPhoKingAwesome
      @MrPhoKingAwesome 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Everyone I've watched says "wait, who's violet, why is there a third song?" and then they hear the end....

    • @Alrion1704
      @Alrion1704 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MrPhoKingAwesome yes, its a fu*** up world.

    • @colinthompson2462
      @colinthompson2462 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      It's my favorite part! " Who's Violet?✌🇨🇦

    • @colinthompson2462
      @colinthompson2462 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      What if at 16 she was already pregnant and was made to move out on her own? Great reaction, thanks. ✌🇨🇦

  • @lulumeto
    @lulumeto 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    This is such an insightful reaction. Ive been a 911 dispatcher for almost 20 years. Long enough to see (hear) generational violence. I'm also a domestic violence survivor and because Ren was so spot on with the realism of this, I worried about him. "Do you think I want to do this Violet?" Is a statement that comes out of many domestic abusers. My hope is that someone that is an abuser see's this video and now knows how appalling it is. I also hope that someone that is going through domestic violence can see how they need to get out of the situation before it's to late. Im so glad that shortly after I discovered The Tales of Jenny and Screech I also found Ren's 1 million subscribers video that showed the caring person that he is. If you haven't seen that I highly recommend it ❤❤

  • @jeffwilson3205
    @jeffwilson3205 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +290

    You said it all. To Ren’s motivation for doing this, he said that it’s too easy for people to turn away from situations like this…he wants people to confront the harsh reality of intergenerational violence. It’s not easy to watch, and Ren said it’s not easy for him to perform. You reacted to the moment at the beginning of Violet’s tale where Ren the artist has to pause and gather himself so that he could perform the song. In the old tradition of Bards, that’s called putting on the Minstrel’s Mask in preparation for telling a horrible story. He said it takes a piece of him as well.
    This song makes me 100% want to see a Screech and help him, or find a Jenny or Violet and help them find their voice (I have 2 teenage daughters). So mission accomplished.
    Think of what a great writer and storyteller you’d have to be to create this song and not have it come off as exploitative…he was so careful about so many details…but one that really stood out to me was that he never put himself in the first person “shoes” of Jenny and Violet…and only told their story through narration, while he did assume the roles of Screech and Stevie, because he actually can understand their lived experience.
    This guy is doing art, music, filmmaking, snd storytelling at a completely different level.
    Also, you may enjoy knowing that he actually appears to be a sweet goofball in real life…but he’s lived through such heaviness that he just seems to have a different level of power.

    • @jorice5528
      @jorice5528 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Love this comment so much 👏👏👏🥹🥰

    • @MichaelRMcCartyX8
      @MichaelRMcCartyX8 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Amazing and great detail comment. Thank you. 😮💯

    • @celtzen
      @celtzen 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Amazing comment

    • @GarnetJ
      @GarnetJ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      💯 agree! Ren has experienced so much tragedy of his own and yet has found a way to channel that into not only incredible art but a captivating story that leads us towards empathy and compassion for each person in the story. Imagine how much different our world could be if we could see past the pain with eyes of compassion and know where to go for help.

    • @thegingermenace8593
      @thegingermenace8593 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I just wanted to tell you how much your comment means to me. I think his goof ball personality at 34 years old is because in his 20's he was so sick. Now we get to see his bubbly personality! He's very silly & fun, even some Easter eggs in his music make me laugh! You hit the nail on the head speaking about him. He's also very kind in case you wanted to know. ; )

  • @HarleyQ14
    @HarleyQ14 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    "If you don't feel compassion, then you're missing context" - that is a super powerful sentiment and pairs so perfectly with this trilogy. Thank you for connecting to these songs.

  • @darrenl3289
    @darrenl3289 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    I feel so conflicted by this piece because I think it is arguably Ren's strongest performance, even better than Hi Ren. However, because of the somber tone of the piece and the absolutely visceral reaction that Ren is able to evoke in people, I've had to caution several friends about watching it, because i know their past and they may see the video as just a chain of triggers for previous trauma. Ren really sets himself into the master storyteller class with this. His compelling playing and singing draws the audience in so well, they forget the entire piece is called The tale of Jenny and Screech, and when Violet's tale starts, we viewers are too deep into the story to pull back and think how Violet might relate to Jenny and Screech. The ending is an emotional gut punch that hits like a freight train. Excellent reaction, especially going through generational violence.

  • @jonathonthomas1255
    @jonathonthomas1255 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +113

    Ren is disturbingly good at putting on full display a completely realistic scenario that modern media tries to avoid talking about

    • @thanossnap4170
      @thanossnap4170 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      100 % agree

    • @twistedpixel756
      @twistedpixel756 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      and that's his point when he chose include the quote from that article at the end of the first two songs, "it's such a shame". it's his unspoken criticism on how we hear stories like this every single day, and all we offer are our condolences.

    • @jonathonthomas1255
      @jonathonthomas1255 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@twistedpixel756 I absolutely love it and you put that so much more eloquently than I could have

  • @chuckh5405
    @chuckh5405 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +120

    20 seconds in, and I love this channel even more. It's so hard to find anyone who listens to the group and pivots so quickly in their approach.

    • @HeartSupport
      @HeartSupport  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      We love you guys

    • @chuckh5405
      @chuckh5405 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      And then watching/listening to you process and summarize the tales so efficiently. Just one of the 10 is tough enough to break. The cycle is viscious and a million times tougher when it becomes the norm.

    • @LeeannG
      @LeeannG 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It was for your own good! ❤

    • @Hoop_23
      @Hoop_23 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The group needs to chill. All separate would have been fine, it's how Ren released them originally.

    • @dropbarracuda
      @dropbarracuda 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@Hoop_23​ true, originally they were released separately, however once Violet's tale was released, it changes the narrative in very powerful ways. Ren knew this, and released the trilogy together in one video because of it. The revelation at the end changes up everything and injects empathy into the flood of emotions experienced through Violet's Tale. Violet's Tale is so powerful that many people that dont have Jenny and Screech's Tale fresh in their minds miss the end completely, and are just left with the horror of Violet's Tale. There's reason why Ren marked the Trilogy altogether as the Official Music Video. Respectfully. 🤓

  • @danieldoble669
    @danieldoble669 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    You’re effin’ brilliant. No lie.
    I’ve seen 100 of reactions to this trilogy. Yours is the meaningful one.
    Don’t change. Keep it up. And fly solo from now on. We want to hear your voice. Guests will only take away from that. Peace.

  • @philk9227
    @philk9227 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    What an incredible heartfelt reaction and the most incredible breakdown of the three tales I have heard. A Shakespearean tale of intergenerational violence told by a modern day bard. Thank you for the compassionate reaction and for just being you and doing such important much needed work.

  • @bradleycampbell7256
    @bradleycampbell7256 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Best breakdown of “The Tale of Jenny and Screech” in all of TH-cam. Brilliant.

  • @raisnaix
    @raisnaix 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    I really can't put to words how much I am loving your channel's content - and the grace with which you handled the fervor of Ren's community (of which I am a part).
    Keep doing what you're doing! It's great and it helps. "Silence feels like a threat to those who are violent" is something people in my house needed to hear.

  • @GrimpenWard
    @GrimpenWard 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I appreciate how much attention you gave to Screech, and discussed how a little love and conversation may have saved him.

  • @robinronnebrink3612
    @robinronnebrink3612 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

    When I read the lyrics, Jennys story, at least to me become alot darker. Like a fourteen year old girl walking down the a street she has walked a thousand times before. She is dressed in high heel shoes, she want to escape. The undertones of that just give me Chills. The video really shows traumas of violence and how people deal with it diffrently.

    • @staceyjayneplatt9527
      @staceyjayneplatt9527 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I actually think Jenny was a prostitute because as a fellow Brit that is how we would describe a lady of the night xx❤❤🇬🇧🇺🇸

    • @lfcmatt
      @lfcmatt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      I always thought that Jenny was kind of a "sex worker" because who wear high heels shoes and walk the same street at night? Few people notice that but maybe I'm wrong

    • @joshuawiedenbeck6944
      @joshuawiedenbeck6944 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@lfcmattYou are exactly correct. Jenny fell back on what was familiar to her. Being taken advantage of.

    • @266226
      @266226 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@lfcmatt Ren has confirmed that that was the intent, so you are correct.

    • @smms905
      @smms905 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Street walkers are kinda a euphemism for sex workers too...

  • @Broken_Fret
    @Broken_Fret 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +192

    Some promotional content Ren released on TikTok suggested that Screech's girlfriend was cheating on him with Patrick in that moment, which is why she said she was busy and why Patrick wasn't home earlier.

    • @TheHosny
      @TheHosny 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      THE PLOT THICKENS

    • @sketchtherapy1218
      @sketchtherapy1218 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i remember that

    • @sharoncarlisle9453
      @sharoncarlisle9453 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      I believe that comes from the video titled "Screech's Instagram Stories." It also suggests that Screech was trying to steal money to get away from his abusive father.

    • @sketchtherapy1218
      @sketchtherapy1218 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@sharoncarlisle9453 accurate

    • @GarnetJ
      @GarnetJ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sharoncarlisle9453yes, I was going to recommend “Screech’s Instagram Stories” for those who want more insight into what prompted the events of that fateful night.
      I often wonder how their lives might have been different if Jenny and Screech had been able to grow up together. So I think it also exposes challenges in the foster care system that would separate twins at birth and not even give them the opportunity of that bond.

  • @shakysenior
    @shakysenior 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I can’t imagine how many reactions to this trilogy I’ve watched. Must be approaching a hundred! Yours is one of the best. Very interesting.

  • @ehhhh5536
    @ehhhh5536 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    The kids grew up without a family as a result of the violence and then the cycle continues. Jenny dies in silence just trying to survive. Screech dies inflicting violence. You're made to experience generational trauma in the space of 3 songs. It's insane how great this is as a piece of art.

    • @sketchtherapy1218
      @sketchtherapy1218 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah Stevie went to jail.

    • @joryjennings7527
      @joryjennings7527 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The kids In reality would have been put in the custody of their respective government's foster care system because like the other fella mentioned, that prick Stevie is most definitely locked up which would explain them not knowing each other the night they died; they got split up.

  • @chroma9008
    @chroma9008 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    'Violence transfers the pain to someone else,' first time I hear this. Powerful re-framing to reflect on where it happens in our own lives. Thanks.

    • @protojayplays6169
      @protojayplays6169 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Psycho kreig borderlands "I'M GONNA PLACE MY PAIN IN YOUR SOUL"

  • @housey_
    @housey_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    I was worried the reception of the previous video would be incredibly discouraging even if people hadn't meant to cause upset, but you handled it better than I could have imagined.
    Really appreciated this reaction, killed it (pun intended) as usual.

  • @nimajneB621
    @nimajneB621 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Such powerful psychological insights here. I love your passion to what you do. Please keep doing it. I sat here sobbing whilst watching it even thought I’ve listened to it so many times 😭
    Ren’s stoytelling abilities are phenomenal

  • @Kevinpblows
    @Kevinpblows 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    Loved your passion in your reaction, and the way you broke this down. There are so many REN songs you need to experience. One that isn’t reacted to as much is Dominoes…. But definitely worth breaking down as it addresses some of the other issues faced by young girls and boys in the world today.

    • @carljwnc
      @carljwnc 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      +1 for Dominoes, another very important song for this day and age.

    • @GarnetJ
      @GarnetJ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes!!!! Would love to see her analysis of Dominoes. Such an important message. And an underrated song. It’s one of my favorites.

    • @Abe_Rudder
      @Abe_Rudder 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      +100 for dominoes.

  • @chrisstallings8381
    @chrisstallings8381 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I have watched dozens and dozens of reactions to this trilogy and yours from the psychological stand point is the best and really offered some insight to this story and I was wanting to have a better understanding….so thank you. REN brings attention just as I can tell you do too deep emotional trauma and gives people confidence to get the support and help they deserve.

  • @mattmorrisson9607
    @mattmorrisson9607 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Ren has the unique ability to bring tears to my eyes with his music, and your reaction only amplified that ability with this song. Thank you for your words.

  • @StefanVillkatt
    @StefanVillkatt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I was happy you took Jenny separatly; it made you see and talk about things other's don't. So thank you.

  • @ubu03
    @ubu03 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    Out of all the reactors to this trio, you are one of the very few that got the last line and showed how it hits.

    • @liljohn118th
      @liljohn118th 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I don't know if you watch The Charismatic Voice, but Elizabeth did a reaction to this song and when that last line hit I swear you could see her heart break in that moment.

    • @jfish67
      @jfish67 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Strawhat Dinasty twins were so destroyed, they had to take time and make a continuation of the reaction later. I'm not surprised.

  • @ultraredd
    @ultraredd 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I've seen reactions to The Tales more times than I can count. Your interpretation and insight is the most comprehensive I've seen so far. Thank you! Subscribed 🖤

  • @wild_lee_coyote
    @wild_lee_coyote 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    It’s a sad tail of why we have systemic violence in society. Unless we as a society are willing to confront the ugly side we will never be rid of it. Kudos to Ren for being able to express such a sensitive subject in a unique and artistic way to make us think about the cycle of violence.

  • @kit.1402
    @kit.1402 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    as a follower of ren's music, i have watched so many people react to the tale of jenny and screech. but i feel like with your psychoanalysis and how you are able to analyze the thought pattern of the music and the videography rather than just the lyrics, i feel like you are one of few reactors who have been able to fully appreciate and understand all ren's ideas and the effort he put into making all the different emotions and metaphors come to life.

  • @erikainharmony4465
    @erikainharmony4465 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    "Compassion creates context." What a beautiful message. I think this world needs more context. I think this world could use more compassion. 💜

  • @hannahdickenson3346
    @hannahdickenson3346 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    One thing that really hurts my heart about this story is that Violet broke her silence to save her children only for them to meet the same fate by the same cycle

  • @geralynsteppe5974
    @geralynsteppe5974 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I've watched hundreds of reactions to this, and I think this one is my favorite. Thank you for your heart to educate and help people.

  • @MegaGalaxyGames
    @MegaGalaxyGames 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The realization that drops over your face when you find out about "the twins" & their names is the reason why I watch the reactions to this trilogy of songs over and over, Such a fantastic story teller is Ren, I could listen to him for days and weeks and months and years and still want more :D
    Great reaction, My first time here btw, subbed :D

  • @taz454
    @taz454 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    That was a great breakdown.
    Do people that do terrible things deserve forgiveness? Maybe, maybe not. Do they deserve some understanding if that person has been broken from an early age? Possibly.
    Its a difficult subject.
    Often violence breeds violence and damaged people, we should remember that.
    Good stuff, much love from England ✌️

  • @im2yz4u17
    @im2yz4u17 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    Ren fans are like you family members. You love them to death but cannot rid yourself of them. Ren we love and hope lives FOREVER! Very few have noted his line about Stevie when Ren says, "Violet! Do you think I want to do this?" This is the perp blaming the victem in real time and quite disturbing. There is the ever present layer of GUILT by those in Power or who bully or commit crimes of passion, anger or what not. By the way, Jenny was presumably into prosititution. The clues are obvious once you think about it. Walking the same street 1000 times before late at night. Rosie Cheeks. High heel shoes. Next, I suspect Screech's girlfriend was actually with Patrick at the time he called her on the phone. Hence, neither one was going to answer him.

    • @greg73cho
      @greg73cho 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      His girlfriend did answer the phone

    • @jasonstewart3996
      @jasonstewart3996 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah but she was busy. I never thought about Patrick being with screeches girl but iove that. It's hilarious

    • @jeffwilson3205
      @jeffwilson3205 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Patrick and Screech’s girlfriend were together, probably at Patrick’s place (good thing Screech didn’t get in because there would have been more murders).
      Ren filmed a whole series of Instagram stories leading up to the release of Screech’s tale where he (Ren) pretended someone stole his phone, and screech started posting from it. You got to see how poorly he treated Patrick and his girlfriend, but also a disturbing interaction with his father. Somebody compiled them into a single video and posted them here on TH-cam…you’re not a real ren completist (lunatic) if you have dug that video up and watched it. 🤣
      EDIT: search TH-cam for: Ren - Screech's Tale Instagram Stories

    • @synp9ynir
      @synp9ynir 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Jenny is said to "walk the streets". She's what used to be called a street-walker. If she was just walking, an English speaker would say "walk down the street" or "walk up the street". But anyway, she walked the streets in high-heel shoes like she did a thousand times before.

    • @elizabethcox1553
      @elizabethcox1553 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't agree that Jenny was a prostitute unless you call all the people walking around cities at night prostitutes . Many people walk around at night in high heeled shoes.

  • @Shiroar
    @Shiroar 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Ren is a modern day bard painting such vivid imagery with his storytelling that it pulls you in and forces you to keep watching - even when it gets physically uncomfortable during Violet’s Tale. And Ren uses this ability to shed light on far too real issues in the world. Ren is special.
    Great reaction. I’m so glad you listened (even if some people didn’t ask very nicely) and did the full trilogy and went it blind for the last two. Not just for the reaction we get to see, but for yourself. This is just such a masterpiece in storytelling.
    Now you get to wait in eager anticipation with the rest of us, cause Ren has said that he and his cinematographer Sam have plans to film a pilot to pitch to Netflix when Ren has finished treatments in Canada and moves back to the UK. All we know is that it will be in the same raw style as this trilogy, but that is enough for me to say that if Netflix doesn’t give Ren his own show, they are fools 😂

  • @jeffwilson3205
    @jeffwilson3205 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Hahaha…I knew this was coming…didn’t even bother to comment. Looking forward to this…sort of. It’s a rough one.

  • @Jason-uj6mt
    @Jason-uj6mt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I adore you and love this reaction channel. You're so expressive and your words are kind and make sense. I'm really glad you decided to watch all these together.
    Welcome to the Reniverse and the Renegade family. ❤

  • @TheRealityleak
    @TheRealityleak 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I think Jenny and Screech grew up in the system (Stevie would have been jailed for murdering Violet) and if they were separated by the system they'd maybe not have known about each other.
    Your insight into this makes it one of the most thoughtful and educated reactions to this trilogy I have seen (and I've seen a lot). Sincerely, thank you.

    • @HeartSupport
      @HeartSupport  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      In hindsight you're totally right 🤣 My brain couldn't connect these dots fast enough in the moment. Thank you so much for your support. So glad you're here :) - Taylor

  • @Telaseth
    @Telaseth 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I rarely comment, but I wanted to say that I've really been enjoying your channel and content and am very appreciative of your insights. Please continue providing your gracious takes for some of our favorite music that has helped all of us.
    My own personal headcannon (which is in no way confirmed by Ren) is that Richard the officer was also the first responder for Violet before she got to the hospital. There's no mention of it at all, just a thought that I had that compliments the full-circle nature of the Trilogy.

    • @BreCarter-o3e
      @BreCarter-o3e 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That would b crazy n definitely something he'd do

  • @davealfdergraue3266
    @davealfdergraue3266 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Girl, i love your "passion" in both ways of the word and your love for us human beings. God bless you and your work! ❤❤❤😮

  • @janegill8990
    @janegill8990 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    There are so many layers to this. When he says 'its such a shame' i beleive its a comentary on how us as a society reacts to these situations. We read these stories every day, they're broadcast to us on the news, documentaries, tictok crime content. And we all gloss over to some extent or another. With the phrase 'its such a shame' or some iteration of. Even it not in the moments afterwards, its our conclusions we make to be able to carry on with our lives without it affecring us emotionally. Ren, I beleive is highlighting this. The societal need to diminish its impacts whislt holding up a mirror and making us face it.

  • @Emilie-one
    @Emilie-one 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I am thrilled you are doing the three. I didn’t watch yesterday figuring I would wait until all three were done. My OCD won’t allow me to watch the unfinished works lol. Thank you for doing all three!!! ❤❤❤off to watch now

    • @thefloridamimi9278
      @thefloridamimi9278 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same. There’s some who have reacted to this trilogy one at a time, and I couldn’t do it 😂. I had to wait until they had finished, and posted all three before I could watch. And the few that did the trilogy completely out of order (one watched Violet’s Tale first) nearly made my head explode 😂. Couldn’t even click on that one. 😂

  • @titntin5178
    @titntin5178 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for listening to us. I think you can probably see why this particular trilogy needs to be in one sitting, it wouldn't convey the same message if the pieces were separated in time. I can reassure you that though Ren has some other tracks in multiples (Money game 1 to 3 and Love music 1-4), they are not 'bardcore' stories and can be enjoyed one by one.
    You're reactions are excellent and insightful. I was not subbed before, but I am now, thank you.

  • @sarahcp6117
    @sarahcp6117 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Having watched the entire video - Thank you. I'm well into my recovery journey but SO many of your words are what I needed to to hear a few years ago. Thank you for listening to more Ren and sharing your thoughts and expertise

  • @allanhindmarch7323
    @allanhindmarch7323 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've seen dozens of reactions to this tragic tale and yours is my favourite. Being that you're a mental health professional, it was interesting to see you progress through the tale to finally realise the most tragic end and see your emotions come through as well as your professional opinion. Good to see people still feeling. It's a very powerful piece of music and Ren is quite the musical genius!

  • @chaoticoldbore
    @chaoticoldbore 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Glad you listened to the comments and went back and did the whole thing. Its so much more impactful

  • @BillyVatcher
    @BillyVatcher 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    “Behind every explosion of violence is an implosion of pain.” Great insight which I will attempt to remember

  • @danielburrells2055
    @danielburrells2055 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    As soon as I saw the length of your previous video. I thought oh no she’s going to get hammered!!!
    I didn’t watch the video as I knew you would do this so watching now.
    It’s nice your actually reading comments and listening to us RENagades.
    Keep it up. Love from 🇬🇧

  • @kevinmundis1281
    @kevinmundis1281 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I just have to first of all say that you are awesome. I love hearing you speak about things like this. Your comment about if we don’t have compassion, we need more context (I probably messed that up), but it was awesome. Thank you for doing the whole trilogy. You did awesome. Thanks for what you do. 🤗

  • @Bhanshee
    @Bhanshee 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What am utterly incredible reaction!!! Thank you! 🙏

  • @mikepiccione886
    @mikepiccione886 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you thank you for going back and doing it as a Complete work❤😊

  • @isoldereincarnated5697
    @isoldereincarnated5697 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    It's really heart wrenching when you start thinking Jenny is sort of depicted as a "lady" and then you realize she was a kid 14 years old just like Screech and Violet was probably in her late teens "when everything went dark". Such young lives lost to a neverending cycle of violence

  • @ItsMeBliz
    @ItsMeBliz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You are very quickly becoming one of my favourite reactors to Rens art. Your amazingly warm/kind personality just oozes through the camera and I am totally here for it. It is genuinely a pleasure to watch your channel 😊

  • @Vixxing21
    @Vixxing21 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Bard, composer, rapper, beatboxer, EXCELLENT singer and guittarist AND an AWESOME actor! What cant Ren do? :O :O :O

    • @protojayplays6169
      @protojayplays6169 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Normally us with psychosis are very good at acting. Having to fight back the voice trains us.

  • @GillianParkinson
    @GillianParkinson 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow, you are truly amazing - your commentary is SO HELPFUL and constructive and everything! I have been in therapy for 6 years with CPTSD (& other "disorders") from childhood trauma - you absolutely help cement what I've learned, remind and affirm I am making progress. DBT, EMDR, CBT, talk and compassionate therapy - albeit it slow, are so incredibly useful, intense, painful, unexplainable painful at times, but so worth it. Thank you 🙏🏻 ❤

  • @becimai56
    @becimai56 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I was screaming at my television to tell you to open your eyes during screeches tale as you missed an awesome bit of camera work along with Rens guitar actions 😮
    Great reaction though, I felt your anguish 🥰

  • @hsky618
    @hsky618 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what a great reaction! thank you for clearing so many parts from the perspective of a therapist. That was really interesting.👍

  • @coleeg69
    @coleeg69 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Crutch ft bibi for sure!
    For Joe you gotta do too lol
    Violets Tale hurts me. Great beautiful music as always by Ren! Modern Shakespeare. Great breakdown!

  • @Mr.Onkruid
    @Mr.Onkruid หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looking at these songs with your psychology knowledge makes me see how much worse my home situation is. I am working on myself to break the cycle, but it is tough. Even tho i am a man i am more like jenny, i bottle things up and don't talk but doing better now than 1 year ago (and way better than 6 years ago when the issues with my mental health started to become clear to me). I've used a lot of coping mechanisms to deal with my issues and all were not per se wrong if i would have done them in moderate amounts (Drugs, Gaming, exercise and helping other to feel better myself), but i now know i should have talked about them cuz i was just pushing them away. Now i've started accepting myself more and i've found out i very likely have adhd and autism and i plan on getting that tested and get a diagnosis so i can become a functioning member in society, cuz in my current state, with the chaos that is in my head, i am barely functional. Like i do work and study but i feel like the way this world is designed isn't for me which makes it difficult to be part of society. I am still a student (doing a work-learning process) and if i don't get things sorted i feel like i might fail my final year. The thing which for me works now is taking microdoses of speed (30mg works best i figured out by trial and error) but i don't do that when i am at work cuz i don't even wanna know what would happen if they would find out that i was on drugs at work. This is what motivated me the most to go and get an adhd diagnosis but the waiting list is so long that i'm not likely to have a diagnosis before the end of my schoolyear.
    Thing is that cuz of all these issues i always get told i'm mature for my age but that is just cuz i've gone trough more shit than someone my age should go and i am still on the edge of the path (as in not stray from it) and i've sort of raised myself and helped my sister do the same. This made me a very mature person once i realized i was coping wrong with my issues, cuz drugs weren't the answer (besides microdosing the speed i do now on some days), playing videogames all day wasn't the answer, exercising 10+ trainings a week wasn't the answer and neither was stuffing my things down and help others. The answer was looking at what i need and talk about the things i am struggling with.

  • @gearybmxer1
    @gearybmxer1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Jumping in here as I make my way through your Ren reactions, a couple of vastly unappreciated songs by him I think is extremely important and beneficial is Dominos and It's Alright , both from the Freckled Angels album.
    Would love to see you react to these ❤

  • @daniels1986
    @daniels1986 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The line at the end is so insanely good. „It happened on these very streets”, they died where they were born. „Lying side by side”, because when they died they also lied side by side, just one street apart. So poetic.

  • @stranger2Utube
    @stranger2Utube 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    A great reaction. This was as if made for you.

  • @dropbarracuda
    @dropbarracuda 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Before even starting, YOU. ARE. AMAZING. Thank you for doing them all together. 🙏🏻❤️

  • @indoctrinationtheory1468
    @indoctrinationtheory1468 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I always love Ren's guitar work, but never more so than in the intro to Screech's tale. The first part is slower and contemplative - as though Screech is in shock, thinking about what he's done. Then we have the faster part, which instantly makes me think of Screech fleeing from the scene of the crime, running until he's worn out and breathless. Setting the scene through music, without a single word.

    • @serendipitish
      @serendipitish 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Love the way you described it, I've always felt that desperation, listening to Screech's intro.

    • @robmullins
      @robmullins 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      In Screech's tale, I love how his vocals are intentionally loud and in disharmony. It screams Screech's inner challenges.

    • @celtzen
      @celtzen 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ok a purely personal amazement note... I can't walk down stairs in the dark when all my attention is on the stairs... and Ren does it while playing something stunningly beautiful on a guitar, live, with a camera recording him...

  • @rpmcmurphy5482
    @rpmcmurphy5482 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I literally have 50 of Ren's songs in my Playlist. I cannot choose a favorite. Each one is better than the next. Keep rolling out Ren reactions. You will not regret a note. 🎶

  • @lokibrux
    @lokibrux 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    And thank you for being an awesome content creator. I for one appreciate it very much.

  • @justice3988
    @justice3988 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow!! Just WOW!! Your passion for what you do in life just blasts through the screen and grows my heart, i bet you have helped so many people with your genuine care and passion to help others, if i was struggling you would be the one i wanted to help me!
    And another fantastic reaction that you really got into emotionally and made me think about the whole situation, thank you and i cant wait to see you do more of ren, he has so many songs that touch my heart, lets go!!
    My personal recomendation
    REN - LOST ALL FAITH

  • @broughy23
    @broughy23 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Someone has already said it, but you would learn a lot about Ren from his song "Crutch." It's an older song of his from before his diagnosis.

  • @goatsiahthelegend
    @goatsiahthelegend 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve watched several reviewers react to this Tale, and yours is the one I want to show everyone. The compassion you have and respect for the music is palatable. Thank you for this, it’s extremely respectable. Keep up the great work

  • @bkcin86
    @bkcin86 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Glad you’re reacting to this 😊

  • @kamunda13
    @kamunda13 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow. You nailed it. As a Ren fan I was waiting for you to say how good Ren was. But you saw it from your perspective and saw through it straight away and told your truth as a therapist. Your empathy is very commendable. What I mean is, I was expecting a critique of Ren when what I got was a compassionate view on intergenerational domestic violence. Thank you.

  • @mikestubblefield4978
    @mikestubblefield4978 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    As someone who grew up in a house with an alcoholic and abusive stepfather, I can tell you that it doesn’t have to be carried forward. I did not grow up to be abusive.

    • @thanossnap4170
      @thanossnap4170 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You are a champion, Mike. That could easily destroy a lot of people. But not you. Thanks for sharing, and good on you for punching the cycle in the face

    • @marie-annem9485
      @marie-annem9485 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are a cycle breaker and a truly resilient soul. Thank you for sharing this powerful message.

  • @iancollins65
    @iancollins65 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am a licensed foster parent and have taken courses on trauma based care, and ACEs is a huge part of what’s discussed. Your perspective on these three videos is different than any reaction I have seen so far, because you are literally explaining trauma from a therapist perspective and how these adverse experiences can completely mold the person forever. I have also learned through TBRI (trust based relational intervention) that trauma physically changes the make up of a person’s brain. It’s very hard to reverse the behaviors that come from these changes and the physical look of the brain mostly stays the same. It takes a very long time and consistency to get the trust of someone who has been traumatized this severely.
    Thanks for all the insight you offer. It’s a breath of fresh air to get this kind of conversation.

  • @briancaster2876
    @briancaster2876 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    31:41 No, the first time i heard screeches tale i understood him. Even as i hated him. Theres no excuse for what he did, there are however, explanations. And if you can understand WHY someone did something, well then, maybe you can prevent it in the future. And to be clear, i hate screech as much, or more than, i hate myself. But i do UNDERSTAND him. You dont have to agree with why someone acted HOW they did to understand WHY they acted like they did.

  • @SergioOlivieri89
    @SergioOlivieri89 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wonderful reaction. I really enjoyed that. Greetings from Italy 🥰🥰🥰

  • @nicholasmarlow4359
    @nicholasmarlow4359 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    The assumption is that “there’s no sign of Patrick down at number 54” because he’s busy with Screech’s girlfriend.

    • @yousefzayabi37
      @yousefzayabi37 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Imagine Patrick was jenny's boyfriend and she called him for help in her last breath. That's a better story don't you think?

  • @GhostofTUHHH
    @GhostofTUHHH 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I didnt watch your first post of just Jenny because I was going to wait for all 3 to come out to watch together, i'm laughing at the response but so happy you and your team corrected and went in this direction. Love your channel, ty for always being here for your viewers. Much love

  • @mikegonzales4199
    @mikegonzales4199 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    A couple of small details that often get overlooked in Jenny's Tale is that Jenny was a 14-year-old girl in high heeled shoes that walked that floor a thousand times before. Jenny was a street walker, therefore continuing a cycle of being abused that started with Violet her mother.

    • @ginjamutha
      @ginjamutha 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ren was recently asked if Jenny was a prostitute and he said “I hope not, her tale is tragic enough as it is.”

  • @alexiaspaedt-mcintosh5311
    @alexiaspaedt-mcintosh5311 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am so glad you did this all together and didn't read ahead... Sadly I was given the tales in the wrong order so I get obsessed watching other people watching it in the correct order. Beautiful and so touching reaction!

  • @Cannabian
    @Cannabian 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    If you keep adding chains your gonna become "Misses T (herapist)."

  • @mikeconway9849
    @mikeconway9849 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great reaction! I thought you had gotten the story before the end when you mentioned generational violence. It is such a shock when he says the final line and everything then falls into place.

  • @jasonstewart3996
    @jasonstewart3996 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm sure since jenny and screeches mom was killed by their father they grew up in separate foster homes. And like you were saying its generational. Jenny grew up quite like violet and screeck grew up violent like stevie

  • @Skeeterish
    @Skeeterish 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great reaction and analysis. I've watched about a zillion of these and it's always amazing to see new perspectives and how Ren's storytelling touches different people....and cry all over again.

  • @rhettbaldwin8320
    @rhettbaldwin8320 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    30:30 they likely grew up separate in the system, after all their father killed their mother.

  • @bill2472
    @bill2472 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im glad you enjoyed it, the moment you get that they were all related and the penny drops is such a credit to how Ren writes.

  • @ledavidou4791
    @ledavidou4791 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    « Sometimes quiet is violent »😢

  • @troy9er
    @troy9er 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You remind me of my niece, she is a psychologist as well! Great reaction! 👍🏻as always!!! Good job, girl. You deserve more than 1 👍🏻so here’s some more 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻Uncle Darryl.

  • @drewlester4313
    @drewlester4313 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    2 0 0 5 is the year. You can google 2005, Paddington, murder and read the story.

    • @andrewdavidson665
      @andrewdavidson665 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jeez that's an awful story...

  • @cardheon6091
    @cardheon6091 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just wanna say this you are amazing as a person I can hear how much you genuinely care so thank you

  • @jonbeuthin6921
    @jonbeuthin6921 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    your energy is intoxicating and inspiring

  • @malcolmjeffery8939
    @malcolmjeffery8939 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm a 73 year old man from the UK, and I just wanted to thank you for putting into words the emotions and feelings that I have when listening to Ren. Please keep up the good work x