The TOP 3 NEW Products I saw at SHOT Show 2023 (actually the only 3)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2024
- I was working at the Cabot Guns and ACW Booth all of SHOT show but was able to tear myself away to see 3 new products that I was really curious to check out.
1. Oracle Arms 2311
2. Beretta 80x Cheetah
(There is conflicting info on the decocker vs cocked and locked safety… I’m just going on the info the rep gave me)
3. Holosun DMS Thermal/IR holographic sight
Here are my thoughts after handling them for 4 minutes a piece on my lunch break.
Good review. Would you like to work together and review CVLIFE optics?
I like the Rock Island Arms 5.0 new model hammer fired pistol. 7 years and more in development and finally here. Made in America and coming in close to $1000.
I haven’t seen a video of it that doesn’t have crazy recoil impulse 🤣🤣 probably the shooters that got it first but I’m not ready to to take RIA seriously just yet…
Now here's something really innovative.
I will be buying a cheetah.
I probably will too….
The 13rd mag on the 80X is flush fit, not extended. The 10rd mags are for ban states. The reason why it is in .380 is because it is a blowback pistol that was designed to run either .380 or .32ACP. It is an existing design that they updated, just like they did with the M9A3 and the 92X series. If you want something like that in 9mm, look at the 92X Compact. 15rds of 9mm, optics ready with a 4.25" barrel and a short grip.
I'm just going off of what the booth dude said.... I had it in my hands for 4 minutes. 4.25" barrel gets you into staccato size territory so I'd jump over to a 2011 at that point. BUT i am coming back around to my 92fs..... everything is cyclical.
@@defconcreative Staccatos are nice, but I am of the poors, so the 92X compact is more in my price range.
@@defconcreative I'm betting the booth dude was ignorant of his own product (there are several TH-cam examples of this) since the legacy 84BB was 13 rounds flush and the 80X is of nearly the same dimensions precisely.
The Staccato CS is over half an inch taller, slighly longer and all around more bulky. I doubt that the Staccato CS and 80X are competing for the same market segment.
If you want a 9 get a 92x. The 80x is not for you tactical guys. Its for your wife's, for new shooters who are recoil timid but still need a gun. Beretta is marking this toward the m&p ez crowd of woman and new shooters. Not everyone wants a small pocket rocket thats hard to shoot for new ppl. And if more good guns are coming out in 380 that ppl will actually shoot will eventually drive price down for 380 too
"us tactical guys"
This is obviously true from the Beretta website. Apparently such a market is there as evidenced by the SIG P-365 380 Rose. The tactical guys think they're the only market for handguns. They're a slim minority at every range I've been to (when even present).
@@defconcreative There definitely is a tactical subculture. Nothing wrong with it, though there are gun owners outside of it who approach firearms differently. I mean the old lady next door probably doesn't want much to do with anything called "DEFCON", but she may very well keep a firearm for home defense.
Compact Elite from Oracle Arms 2311 was my favorite. Can't wait for these to be released in April
I’m really interested to see how the production units look
Matthew Wilson
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Now if they could find a way to put the 9mm in the 80x cheetah gun it would fly off the shelves
Great video.
Thanks!
Completely agree, the Beretta should have been 9mm. Great video, I appreciate your input and opinion.
I'm not sure how big the 380 market is anymore and releasing new guns in the caliber isn't really going to change that (see
If how fast the used Beretta 85 disappear from stores is any indication this new gun should be very profitable. I would love to see this gun in 30 super carry.
@@defconcreative Can't speak for everywhere, but I worked at a bass pro in North Carolina and people asked for for 380 absolutely constantly, It was probably our 5th most popular pistol cartridge after 9, 40, 45, and 38/357. It easily beat out 10mm, 44, 5.7, and 30 supercarry
@@defconcreative 2:41
@@OmegaVestoLord I can believe it. Not everyone can effectively manage the recoil of 9mm in a small gun.
Dame video quality 🎯💯✅
The DWX uses P10F mags, not CZ75 mags.
Yeah…. It looks like 75 because of the grips…. But you are correct p10 mags are used
Can we get a Top 5 American designed, sourced, and built guns of shot show 2023?
🤣🤣🤣 ACW and Cabot would be the whole video
@@defconcreative maybe… for now. America will be back. ACW & Cabot you say? I’ll take a look. Thanks friend.
Several people have said the Oracle feels cheap for the price point it’s at. Let’s see how much it’s improved upon release
I’m rooting for them… it’s a cool concept
@@defconcreative Absolutely
Beretta rep said they had manufacturing difficulties in 9mm in such a small format with 92x performance.
3 grand for a competition gun? And a new gun that looks like it was built in a high school metal shop class? What faith would you have the production guns?
What was the detection range of those thermal sights?
They had very little actual info on them…. Just prototypes
@@defconcreative thanks. I had heard something like 68 meters but didn't know if it was correct. Guess I'll have to wait till they release some more info.
*Hah, this guy tells the truth. This SHOT sucked.*
The Hz/lag on the thermal is terrible. Much worse than the entry level Pulsar.
It’s not really the same as a pulsar scope though… the holographic sight Thermal reflex combo is something completely different and new in this price range….. I am really intrigued
@@defconcreative cool!
Thought I was the only one that wished the 80x was 9mm!
Nope…. Many people have said it
Absolutely wish it was 9mm. No idea why it’s not. That being said I’m still buying one. Always wanted a a 3.5-4” 92 and this fits the bill. I like the look better than the old cheetahs
@@jvz1448 Because it is a blowback pistol that was designed for .380 and .32ACP and it is based on the existing Beretta 80 series, something that has been around going on 50 years. Why make it in 9mm when they already have the 92X Compact?
@@DarkPhoenixTSi The 92x compact is much larger. The 80x actually feels like a compact gun, and most people would feel more comfortable carrying 9mm over .380. I mean I get why they did it in a way but they could have really had something that would fly off the shelves in 9mm. I’m still getting one but yeah 9mm would have been better
@@jvz1448 I have big hands, so even a 92 feels like a compact in my hands. For Beretta, it is easier and cheaper to use an existing design, considering the resurgence of .380 has a carry caliber. They would need to start with a complete redesign of the 92 to scale it down to the size of an 80 due to the restrictions of direct blowback. Rather than making something like that, I think they can do an update to the PX4 line to fill that itch for a small, high capacity 9mm, without too much work.