The 2021 Porsche Cayman GT4 Still Needs One Mod to Be Perfect - One Take
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The 2021 Porsche Cayman GT4 may just be facelifted for 2020, but it's what's underneath that counts: a new 4.0L, naturally aspirated engine shared with the Boxster Spyder making 414 hp at 7600 RPM, a front axle shared with the GT3, the perfect six-speed shifter, and full on Porsche motorsport theater that's practical enough to use every day (with the right tires). In the land of Porsche, where price tags get way out of hand quickly, the GT4, at around $110,000, is a spectacular value.
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Can we just applaud Porsche for doing their own thing, while continuing to make some of the best cars in the world? I mean what other company makes 2 4.0L engines, that are completely different than one another? Just let that sink in.
It's not a completely new engine though. It's just a bored out 3.0L Carrera unit with turbos taken out. It still is a marvel of an engine though.
It just follows clarksons old Porsche argument. Porsche went so far to make the boxster/cayman inferior to the 911 that they went out of their way to produce a different (inferior) 4.0 flat six.
every single american car brand lol.
John Stramiello that on paper sounds like an issue but when you consider it’s much cheaper and it’s still a beast of an engine.
@@whygodrums10 9A1 dies with the 991, I believe due to emissions.
This car is the ideal mid engine sports car. Some day I will pick one up on the used market.
@@karlvanginderdeuren4009 I've been into Lotuses forever, but are they going to even continue being supported much longer? I'd love an Elise, or maybe even an Evora.
@@freepeacesweet.7547 Not living up to your name lol, but who cares what *you* say ;)
I will to my friend. I will to
@@afrog2666 True true.
You are correct.
They haven’t gone down that much in value in canada, fuck can’t find one at an affordable price
matt is banging that red line like a b series honda xD
i caught that too lol
Lol well it is a press car so fuck it just reel it out hahah
I kinda like the idea of revving the hell out of a sports car, reminds me of my S2000. Makes you really work for it.
That's how the BRZ/86 work but most people hate it lol
spike021 I was about to comment this. But I like it. I love my BRZ and being able to push it to 7/10 daily.
@@joshwertheim Difference is, the S2000 sounds great, 86/BRZ doesn't
@@joshwertheim Issue I have with the 86 is the dead spot and nothing special sound wise at the top of the rev range like VTEC Hondas, otherwise great car.
100% the way it should be. Fuck lazy power thats boring. No better feeling getting the maximum out of an N/A engine
Best weekend fun car - also track on the market right now -
mid engine: check
Manual: check
Funfactor: check
Design: check
Right size: check
Love the GT4
Idk man
Long gearing makes it damn near an automatic. You’re shifting for fun not cuz you have to lol.
I would take a GT3 because of the engine and gearing, but I think they are coming out with a gt4 RS
I'd have the Boxster Spyder over any GT3, at the end of the day the 718 is mid engined so better balanced, it's smaller and you can use a lot more of it than you can a GT3. That said, GT3 Touring would be my second pick, if I had to have a 911.
The competition to the GT4 is the Lotus Evora GT. Not many people know it even exists!
I mean it's one of the last of sports cars that's N/A and has manual gearbox, on top of that it's mid engined and from Porsche. It's well worth that price.
Cayman's are hands down one of the best drivng experiences 987 owner for 6yrs and I'm still in love
I found a really clean 08 987s locally with only 50k miles for 24k 😁 so tempted to sell my 335i and pick it up!
@@TheTexasOiler nice! I've got my E92 M3 in the garage then my modded 335i as my primary daily. I recently drove a 718 base and it blew me away! I can imagine myself really enjoying the great drivers qualities and feel of a 987 or 981 though 🙂
I like the Cayman but I feel like if I got one I would have fomo Everytime I see a 911
When I no longer need 911’s back seats for kids, I am going back to Boxster or Cayman
@@micraw714 e92 is that the one with the v8? If you have the v8 with a manual.. people are claiming that's gonna become a classic car. Since it's the last m3 with v8.
They always say with TH-cam: either entertain or educate. You’ve done both here, Matt. Your experience is pouring out of you. Great stuff. Thanks for making this.
Bravo on your comments regarding the limits of the car.
I strive to become "Porsche People" one day
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@Angel You're the devil's advocate, Angel 😂 Your comment was hilarious
Yes sir me too. Success to strive for
I just started there today! It‘s possible if you really want to :)
Angel I don't it's quite funny lol
Don’t wait too long. YOLO!
I love how you told us what speed the gear maxes out on sooo when u hit 4th on a straight ima like 👀👀
I now have about 8000km on mine since December. Almost all of them in the Swiss Alps or Black Forest. Perfect size for those roads. And I can't say that the gearing has caused any issues. Even with shorter 2nd and 3rd gears you'd be only using those given the speed limits. It's not going to change the amount of shifts that much. The stock gearing is well spaced and also suited for motorway driving and road trips.
@@W33Dblazer When it comes to that, 1st would be enough 🤣 But our alpine roads are usually quite a bit narrower. More like the Malibu roads. But with a much bigger drop. So actually, the legal speed limit is ok for the most part.
slaWterCH @Janko says use 1st year more th-cam.com/video/1dhKZ9zn_Vc/w-d-xo.html
You certainly haven't even check the gear ratios then.
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@@franzbranntwein3722 Keine Angst, bin nicht von der Sorte. In Ortschaften fahre ich immer unter dem Limit und leise.
I was lucky enough to drive this car years ago when they first came out at a Porsche experience event in ATL. I owned a 8th gen civic si with a fully built bored out motor. This car felt like a grown up version of my car. I am a grown up now. I will own this car one day. Mark my words inner self.
Since the Lotus Exige is not available in the US, this is the most fun sports car you can buy
Well said
@@aahsnowman2325 if it were for track use only it'd be no problem I'm sure.
@@subnegro4946 if I recall the 4c also had an inferior suspension design that prevents it from handling as well as a lotus with double wishbone suspension
Toyota 86. You can mod it how you want with the money you saved.
Iseenoobpeoples hell no. Get that broke high school student on a 10 year loan car out of here
Simplest way to explain the difference between a GT4 and a GT3 engine
718 GT4 : a 4.0 liter NA conversion of the 911 Carrera's 3.0 liter Turbo
911 GT3 : a road-legal conversion of the racing 911 RSR engine
I’m thinking this is the ultimate daily! I use to be the guy that wants high hp vehicles but the Porsche do it with half the hp pretty amazing🏁🏁
I have definitely not seen Matt’s videos in a long time! Good on him for the weight loss.
The new GT4 is bad ass!
The new 911 is just too big. The Cayman is the enthusiast's sports car
Agreed. I have a Spyder coming in August to replace my 2016 GT4. I love my GT4 but miss not having a convertible. My GT4 is currently for sale. I'll miss her when she goes.
@@seinsmeld13 I like the speedster, but not the prices they call for it up. But as i allways get a stiff neck + sniff by open cars, i stick to the ones with roof.
Thats what doug said
@@aly0072 Yeah doug is the expert. /s
Listen, buddy: all the Porsche 992 911 versions are smaller than a Corvette and smaller than the Aston Martin Vantage. How about that? The Porsche is smaller, despite being a 2+2 vehicle!
How much "smaller" should a Porsche 911 Carrera be, in your opinion...??
Some people really tend to repeat the weird but boring "opinions" from other annoying smart asses way too often... ;-)
The 911 can't be much smaller, because of bigger customers, so easy is that. Porsche would never make the mistake, to build the 911 in such a crappy and unusable size like these way too small sports cars Lotus Elise and Exige, which maybe are fun to drive but are totally bullshit and unusable as a daily driver.
The Cayman GT4 isn't that smaller than a 911 Carrera! Just compare the width of the dashboards of these two cars!
And maybe just think about these customers, who have the same length like Matt Farah... Bigger drivers like him wouldn't be very delighted, if the 911 would be much smaller. As a daily driver the size of the Porsche 911 is just perfect.
Great review Matt! Still killing it and always love the Porsche reviews on your channel! Thanks for the honest, straight talk as always!
Love you, love the Heel and Toe gear! So happy for all of your success!
You can't compare new laptimes from the Nordschleife with those from 16 years ago - not even 5 years ago. The track has been overhauled many times since then - better and flatter surfaces etc. - so it is a lot faster - even with the same car, same tires, same conditions.
@Wolfgang. 👍absolutely correct. In addition, tire technology continues to improve.
You put a set of fresh tires on a Carrera GT and there is no way a GT4 is keeping up. I don’t see how it would be possible. I don’t believe brake and suspension technology has expanded so vastly as to where the CGT would struggle.
That No Limit hat is legit. Ordered! Thanks for the content as always.
Always loved the GT4. Will definitely add one to garage some day. NA, manual, 400hp, and looks great. Bravo Porsche!!
Thanks for the video as someone trying to decided btw a few different models this is helpful!
Great review! these videos make car buying so easy, thanks for providing the insight!
I support you! That doug interview was great!!
Love the content I was looking into trading up to one of these,.. I'm gonna wait a little longer. Thank you Matt and tst.. when's the next podcast in the new building hope it's all working out..
Matt, great video. Thank you. I consistently enjoy these one takes.
Previously, you’d convinced me to go with a e63s wagon ( I am a father ) as the next vehicle. Especially after that gorgeous skyline run in my backyard you did last year. But now I’m leaning towards letting my wife drive them around in an Ascent, and picking up a manual 718 spyder. I’m not a track guy, but we’ve been a manual family for a while now (prelude, rav-4, wrx, e39, e90, s4, 996 4s) and it’s been sad to envision life with no more manuals.
Question on the Spyder spec. If I’m not going to track it, and I’m really not that cool, I was thinking of dropping the carbon breaks+seats like in your GT4 here. Going with the 18way adjustables, the gearing mod, and titanium exhaust. Do you think I need to raise the wing on the Spyder?
My goal is something I can actually have a great time driving, weekend+, and not absolutely take a bath on resale in 3-5 years.
Real talk buddy.. shout out from Jamaica. Love the manuals
Food for thought: We can't complain about a stretched gear relation for a car that was meant to track, we all know that this will make the difference in lap' battle, for example ! C'mon...buy something else, it's just perfect as it sir. Good review.
Thank you - very intrigued by this car, look forward to it once some depreciation takes hold assuming I wait for the 2020 and do not settle for 2016. But odd gearing given the target use.
I owned the 2013 base model 981 for about 4 years. I would say that all of these naturally aspirated motors love being up there in the high end. The 2.7 only had 200 pound*feet of torque. It came alive and was super fun anything above 4000 RPM. And, yes....2nd and 3rd gear is right where they like it for canyons.
Het Matt, awesome One Take, cheers! Could you by any chance say what your mic set up is? Assume this is not the audio captured by the gopro directly? Many thanks! Wish you well and looking forward to the next one!
I was waiting for this video, yesterday Sunday morning with my coffee.
That Cayman looks amazing
Although my ultimate dream car is a GT3 Touring and I know my pocketbook will probably never allow me one, the GT4 looks like it will fill my need😎 Great review Matt
Excellent review. I always enjoy your Porsche reviews.
Good stuff as always, thanks !
Just one thing : in all these years you've been doing those tunnel sound recordings - has anyone ever told you that the viewers only hear distortion , with just a tiny bit of what the actual car sound might be ?
Great review. Love manual. Wish the gearing band was tighter on the GT4. I own a 2020 Mustang Bullitt and the gears are very long. The six speed redline shift points are about 5 mph lower than the Porsche's. The torque band on the Mustang is around 4800 RPM and the Mustang's power band for HP can really be felt starting at around the 6000 RPM range. That being said I know what you are talking about. I have to drive fast to shift through the gears and we have no Autobahn in the States. I'm looking at the 718 models Cayman S and up to purchase. I'd rather have the N/A engine. I hear the 2021 Cayman GT4 is offered in 7 speed dual clutch PDK. It is more torquey. Matt, will you be reviewing from Porsche this vehicle? I'm curious how the shift points are with this automatic gearbox?
I got a 2.7l 987 last year and it's so much fun to drive. i can row through every gear and its great
Just love the induction sounds of Porsche's I'd love to own one
Such an elegant machine to be driving! The manual gearbox, the scream, and just the overall performance makes this such a phenomenal vehicle.
That sound is back!!!!
0:48 That dog was like 'Who threw this here?! I better not catch anyone littering!"
Matt, if I don't plan och doing many track days but still prefer to have a proper roof - what's your (one) take on the Cayman GTS 4.0? Good enough, or absolutely go for the GT4?
What a glorious sounding machine! Makes me wish that Porsche would option this motor into the 911S
Cayman GT4 is still my dream car, for now just settling on making some mods to my G37 and enjoying the NA motors while I still can.
I love being able to gauge how obscenely fast Matt is driving just this one video, from the gearing discussion. Like ohh yeah there's third revved out again.. :D
He was definitely buzzing by, but the car was just taking it so ridiculously smooth. Almost mesmerizing to see the reflector markers whizzing past the camera.
Man Matt been putting in work in the gym 💪
Same car Doug Demuro reviewed. I love the GT4. Mid-engine perfect
Yeah Doug gets more viewers, but you get the people that appreciate the car and the drive a lot more! Gonna be looking for one of these used with the sweet gearing when my Giulia comes off lease!
Nice review! What canyon is this? Thanks!
This has to be one of the most beautiful cars in existence. I think it comes down to it's proportions, absolutely spot on. Those wheels don't hurt either 🤩
Would you go from a lighter 2.5 GTS that can easily be modified or std 71& GT4?
Hey Matt, longtime sub here, love the vids and thanks for keeping them going. Ik times can get tough 👍. Looking forward to podcasts!!
I've got a b ase 2018 718, 6 speed manual and IT is a great little sports car. Could NOT imagine what the GT4 brings to the platform!
I’d love it if you did an episode about the sweet spot (400hp and 3000lbs) for a street car.
I love the meta stuff!
Its called a Corvette.
Would you get the PDK instead because it will have proper gearing?
PDK is out already on the configurator. Roughly a $3200 option to add over manual. Appears Porsche also moved away from the Alcantara brand to Race-Tec (similar product). Also, 'Paint to Sample' (PTS) has also been added if your want to spend an additional $12K.
Thanks, I'd get it in Auratium Green and satin good wheels.
Awesome as always, Matt. If you go back to think about it, do you really think that it is quicker to reach the limit of a 718 than it is a 911? I’ve been thinking that the 718 is so balanced and confidence inspiring that any good driver would reach the limit of how fast they’re willing to corner on a public road in it very quickly and just feel stagnant there. It seems to require too much coldblooded racey driving to go where a 718 can go and it’s too dangerous to go there outside of a safe track. Or, did you feel that the car itself reached it’s cornering speed breaking point easier than a 911?
Damn matt! I've been listening to the podcast and haven't watched any videos, but you're looking good my dude!
Great car. a friend has one. I have a manual GT3, so as you say no need to get this, but it's a truly special car. completely agree re the gearing, which is why I love my GT3. anyway, great review, looks awesome in yellow.
Got myself a Manual shirt, a Manual socks and Manual stickers. Absolutely gonna support that company and you, especially because it's attached to this wonder of a video. GT4 is absolute dream car status
Thanks man, appreciate it!
Great review! I am not really a Porsche guy but THIS Cayman GT4 is SWEET!
Matt, what do you make of the new GTS 4.0 models? They're basically the standard Cayman/boxster with the engine from this car. The only difference being that they produce 394 hp instead of 414, and redline at 7.8 instead of 8; all through a software change. At the same price point as the c8, and with a manual gearbox, do you think they make sense?
I like that you use the little black book!
I would buy this over the new upcoming 992 GT3, this generation of cayman GT4 is just better looking imo.
this actually looks like a "sports car" due to its smaller body. the 992 gt3 will be a fucking tank size-wise
@@SavageTriple7 the combination of the rear wing with the diffuser and the separated exhaust is pure perfection.
911s have really become more of a GT car since the 991. Or a great daily driver sporty car.
The GT3 is just a other level and thas there fore also a other price tag.
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The new GT3 gets a odd rear spoiler.
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I agree, the GT4 is the better car for the money. However the GT3 is just in another league. Other Thant that, GT4 all the way
Nice car and rolex gmt nice mechanical watch like the manual 6 speed. It's a grand tourer that's why gearing is taller. The after market gearing is work for daily driving. Thanks for sharing.
which gearset replacement manufacturer do you recommend?
That is such a bad ass car! I'd love to see one pepped up to 11! I can only imagine how good that chassis is.
I’m curious when is the last update on the garage you’re building going to be up. P.S keep it up with the great content.
In my humble opinion, this is the best looking new car on sale today.
I read some where stating Porsche said the reason for the gearing in this car is emissions. The 997 GT3 also had very similar gearing.
Who makes the regear kit? Is it a different final drive or a headset? Also, I wouldn't be against the width of the 992. I used to have a raptor and got used to the massive width of that beast.
Do you think the gearing is to meet fuel economy requirements?
Great review and whatever you're doing to lose weight, keep it up. You look great Matt!
I'm new to German cars ,I recently got a used 2001 Audi A4 Quattro and it came with a Universal HKS exhaust system with HKS headers ,I never dyno'd it but it feels fast when I'm on 2nd and 3rd gear !.
You’ve discussed the aftermarket gear set a couple time in this TH-cam video. Who do you recommend and what kind of price do think it will cost?
Matt that was such a good quote ❤️
Like always, excellent video !
Such a great comment about the press car vs your own car!
How much is the Sharkwerks gear set, including installation?
Love this car. Love this channel. Always fun to watch and always informative. Not only that, but you sound a lot like Malcolm Nance, the cyber-intelligence analyst who's one of my heroes these days.
One of the cars for my dream garage. I very much want a Cayman gt4. And how it is somewhat attainable
@thesmokingtire Porsche could learn a few things from Corvette or GM. Porsche could implement a camera rearview mirror & the PDR.
Of course closer gears for both manual and PDK would be awesome and HP/TQ of GT2/GT3RS would be nice. A faster steering rack would be great too.
I'd take the Boxster Spyder too, as my idea of the perfect sports car, is a convertible, but, this is probably still the best hard top sports car on the market right now.
Boxer spyder then twin turbo it
Hard top?
@@NoName-qp1op What would you call a car with a solid roof?
Matt, how would you compare this GT4 with the M2 or M2 comp? They are both at about your sweet spot ~400hp/3000lb
The perfect tire for any condition is the PS4S , installed those on my 981 GT4 and now wet, cold or hot the grip is there and the rears are 305, cup 2s are only better for track use plus they last only around 10K miles
That thing is geared like a c6 z06. It works in the vette because of the torque on ls7 but on a flat 6?
im concerned about low power at the lower RPM is it okay for road driving when you don't wanna rev high?
Similar ring time to the C8 Z51. Nice. It must carry a lot of speed through turns.
Is this the same car Doug had? Just listened to the podcast with Doug and I were pretty jealous of him 😂
It is
Lol who listens to Doug. I dunno about everyone else but I watch him
Yep same plate.
Just an edgy guy you're right he's not a car guy, he's an ENTHUSIAST. Don't hate him because he's doing better than you
Prashanth Panicker dude owns a ford GT, had a 360, vantage and a CTS V wagon. safe to say he's into performance cars lol
I’ve got the H-pattern shirt. It’s really well made.
I would love to get one of these eventually. Currently I own an s2000 but this looks to be a worthy upgrade. I think this is the best car porsche has made outside of the GT2 GT3 Speedster
Hey Matt, not sure if you know but this car you drove (or a similar Porsche factory car) is for sale at Porsche Monterey for MSRP.
Sharky gonna keep making great sales on gears so long as Porsche stays the same.
it's a conspiracy lol
Awesome drivers car...BALANCE. Love these two twins with that NA 4.0
does anyone know of a good aftermarket close ratio gearbox for the GT4?
Great review! Can we get a review of the new Cayman GTS 4.0?
I would love to see a track day with this GT4