Knights of the Frozen Throne - Card Review #6 w/ Trump - Featuring The Ultimate Card of the Set!
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00:17 - Ultimate Infestation (Druid)
02:23 - Corpse Widow (Hunter)
03:33 - Simulacrum (Mage)
04:23 - Glacial Mysteries (Mage)
05:50 - Righteous Protector (Paladin)
07:03 - Devour Mind (Priest)
07:55 - Obsidian Statue (Priest)
09:27 - Runeforge Haunter
10:36 - Corpse Raiser
12:07 - Tomb Lurker
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Ultimate Infestation is literally a Kazakus potion for Druid. And you can have two of them. And you can ramp into it. AND you have no deck restrictions. It looks great. If it isn't good, it will be bc Druid got pushed out of the meta, not bc the card is bad.
Svartalfur that or token druid is the only good druid deck
James Simbolon That's certainly possible. Hopefully slower Druid decks will at least make it to some tournament metas.
Svartalfur yeah, I have been missing a good late game druid deck that isn't jade. This has a good possibility of making ramp great again (see what I did there) without a cancerous Force of Nature + Savage Roar
+Svartalfur The good thing about Kazakus was its versatility. You could get immediate returns, moderate, or heavy returns depending on what you're playing against. This 10 mana card will not be good against aggro itself.
Well to be exact, its two 5 cost Kazakus potions rolled into one card.
Turn 3 astral communion into turn 4 Ultimate infestation.
Ezequiel Ayoroa More like turn 3 astral communion turn 4 innervate
New Wild meta
Turn 5 ?
Turn 6, profit
More like turn 1 Innervate Coin Astral Communion, Turn 2 Ultimate Infestation.
More like turn 1 Magical Christmasland
I'd argue that a 5/5 Ghoul is better than 'a random five drop', so this card is basically Sprint + Shield Block + a good Firelands Portal result all wrapped into one card, for 7 mana less, in a class which can get it out early. Yea.
Daniel Powell IKR
What I would find a really interesting possibility to make this card more balanced: make it 11 mana (you'd have to change innervate so you can for one turn have more than 10 mana). That way in standard you'd have to play innervate to play this card
Aron Ma I like it seeing it as Shieldmaiden, Starfall, and Sprint into one card
Yeah I always get bomb squad or dopplegangster off of firelands. Especially if it's arena
Hans Peter that would make the card completely unplayable, while making innervate really busted
"only savannah highmane has been uhh, died"
That perfect editing low-key making fun of our senpai always gets me. Fantastic job as usual Jens
Oh god 13:00 killed me hahah. This effect.. Jens you're the best !
Do you know what is better than Ultimate Infestation?
Mana Bound Ultimate Infestation
Xal Your opponent is super dumb to play it when you have a untested secret
Makes me realise that the made secret card can hard counter this
Anybody else noticed he called lifesteal lifelink, like the mtg variant. :)
Yeah, I think he's going back to the olden days
yeah haha, it was so seamless
"I don't think we've seen a 5 Cost 4/6 with a strong constant effect before." *Burgly Bully cries itself to sleep*
Simulacrum might be good in Exodia Mage, since you can copy your Sorcerer's Apprentices with it.
Andrew Grottle Except molten is cheaper, and easier to use.
Wait, molten=4 simulacrum=3
4
when casting molten while playing exodia mage it would probably cost 2 man as you would have put down 2 apprentices. while simulacrum at best would cost 2 mana after playing 1 apprentice and you still have to play the apprentice again afterwards ?
"Only savannah Highmane has been...uh...died so far" 👌👌👌
13:00 I keep getting caught off guard by these Jens edits and they are always my favorite part of the video.
Just imagine runeforge haunter, fools bane and violet illusionist
Jacob Hail two different classes so I guess during the brawl
Or from/with Blingtron.
I'm just saying that combo if pulled off would be insane
just discover the weapon with the 2 mana discover guy if you can manage to hit the 1 in 300 or whatever lol
u mean the one that only discovers Hunter and Paladin stuff besides Warrior? :D
glacial M is a major nerf to kappa tomb, by 8mana, you simply have no secret left in the deck....
however, when you build a deck around it like the already existing secret mage and search actively with glyph for a 6 mana version, making it more likely to have less secrets drawn already, then this seems annoying as fuck
Trump's video is both hilarious and informative... with high production value
It's definitely a high value video from the mayor of value town
He entirely overlooks Simulacrum being something you can cheat out early on a Sorcerer's Apprentice in hand, for the Antonidas version Quest Mage to go off more consistently.
probably because exodia mage was hardly played in the first place. i dont see simulacrum making it better to the point that it's played more
You forget there's also the 2/6 for 4 which generates a Mirror Image, which both progresses the quest by 1 and helps stall the game. Simulacrum affords more methods by which to reach the critical combo threshhold of Sorcerer's Apprentices in the same fashion as Molten Reflection.
Unlike Molten Reflection, the pre-cast nature of Simulacrum also makes the deck more resistant to Dirty Rat.
I feel the deck is actually good and with blizzard pushing a much slower meta i think it may even become ladder viable
Simulacrum makes you have 4 of them quicker, meaning your opponent has less time to proc your ice block and you have less chance do draw in to fatigue before you pull it off
it's played in tournaments to counter super value deck
T H E M A D M A N ! ! !
Control taunt Druid looking amazing. Definitely the deck I'm crafting, it even counters aggro!
These cards officially have me hyped up for this expansion !
Great review! The last card "Tomb Lurker" comparison with Azure Drake seems really weird to me though.
- A 5/3 statline is completely different than a 4/4.
- It has no Dragon tag.
- Always drawing a card *on curve* is much more powerful than getting a (4 mana or less) weak card or potentially none.
- And you can't just ignore the +1 Spellpower on Azure Drake either as if it was nothing.
The comparison with Lotus Agents is much better. A card - unlike drake - which doesn't see play. Comparing Lotus with Drake would be equally silly imo.
5+3 = 8, 4+4 = 8. it's different, but still the same amount of stats, which is what he was commenting on.
dragon tags make no difference when you look at a card in a vacuum, and dragon decks aren't played as is.
you'll never get no card from tomblurker if you're not an idiot, and he specifically talks about making sure that you play a powerful deathrattle minion first (i.e. savannah highmane)
you CAN ignore it as if it's nothing because nobody used azure drake for the spell power.
3 health is sooo much worse as it dies to Waraxe, Hellfires and a lot of 2-drops. Getting that Savannah Highmane also means you can't play it on curve which is a big deal as well. Drake was always good on turn 5.
As for the dragon tag; you also shouldn't evaluate cards in a vacuum, because the game isn't either. Like Dragonfire potion is a thing...
At the end of the day, would you compare Lotus Agent with Drake as if they're equally strong? Because if so, I'm sorry but I don't value that opinion much then.
+yinny several of your points help prove OPs point that they shouldn't be compared. You have to wait to play a deathrattle, its not a good idea to play on curve, 4 health and 3 health is a HUGE difference.
Azure Drake can be played on curve with no concern of your draws and plays earlier in the game. That's not a small thing at all. The cards are way more different than they are similar
Lotus agent is better than tomb lurker.
Discover in general is a little better than draw a card. Tomb lurkers ability is quite a bit worse than draw a card.
T H E 1 S T A R M A N
6:30
Trump - "it's gonna be pretty resource intensive to remove the 1 mana 1/1 taunt, divine shield. Always going to cost more than 1 mana to do so"
Me - "Earth shock".
earth shocking this would be a pretty unefficient use of the card lmao
I think I've never seen a twilight drake getting earth shocked
Saskia & Uludağ you probably haven't played before naxxramas. Handlock used to run twilight drakes so control shaman had the best matchup against it, mostly because of earth shock (and hex).
Yogg-Saron is gonna have a blast with all these new spells to dole out.
Simulacrum is a card for quest mage. It serves as an extra copy of giants or sorcerer's apprentice.
I can see some nice combos using Bolvar, Righteous Protector, and Blood Knight.
This seems like a perfect fit into the Jungle Giants deck
Very excited for the new corpse widow. Think I might have to make a beast deathrattle deck.
I love the flavour of the obsidian statue
I think a good comparison to Ultimate Infestation is DOOM!. They both remove enemy threats and reload your hand. But it's waaay better. You can play Ultimate Infestation and you don't lose the game.
With so many ressurect cards I'm really feeling an Obsidian Statue Priest. The end-game fatigue potential is crazy if you survive early-game! :0
The gain 5 armour is actually pretty big on ultimate infestation. Usually on turn 10 you can't just do any one thing because you have to focus more on lethal damage. The extra healthgain will allow you to play the card in so many situations it's abysmal.
I can't wait for a Milhouse manastorm -> ultimate infestation
Trump! Your my favorite card reviewer!!!!!!!!!
I only remember to click like when I'm hit with one of those dope jens edits (13:00 lol)
I can actually see a not really aggro but a swarm druid deck rising. Being able to summon a lot of minions over and over again is really strong. You can also have your curve lowish so that the 5 card draw becomes the only fuel it needs. Combined with the scarab card, living mana and elements of token druid, it could be pretty strong.
Corpse Raiser combos well with Barnes or the Priest resummon cards.
I think deathrattle hunter is going to be insane. It's already a viable deck. Currently no one suspects it, so they don't kill your grandmother, so on turn 3 you play 6/5 worth of stats. I actually think you might even want to put corpse raiser into the deck. So for 8 mana you can play 2 3/3's, trigger a minion's deathrattle, duplicate it, and make duplicate itself again upon death.
Trump- something many people forget is that if 2 card abilities are combined together- like ancestral spirit- the combined card has a hidden +1/+1 for being 1 card instead of 2
I'm currently playing a quest priest and man, quest priest is gonna be strong with the next expansion
Should be called Ultimate Portal
Simulacrum i like (extra doomsayer or sorceress apprentice, or even some costly legendary), glacial mysteries is trash, but as it goes, might be very useful if you get it from other cards. I can imagine taking it from the glyph in certain situations and use it as draw+play one or two cards.
Ultimate Infestation will go straight to wild!
Also... Praise Yogg!
"I don't think we've seen a five mana four-six with a strong constant ability" Hallazeal cries in the corner...
Simulacrum has the same card art as Pure Cold from the Naxxramas expansion!
So many new 5 attack cards for Druid quest ^^
I imagine you can just run a control druid with lots of ramp and removal/taunt put in nourish, wraths, ultimate infestation, and maybe thalnos and throw one jade idol in.
"Righteous Defender" - Trump 2017
simulacrum is insane...easy in mage to just have 1 minion in hand like antonidas so that would be lowest cost or alextrasza both insane for 3 mana
"Say Only savannah high mane has been.... uhhh.... died... so far" I has been died too at that editing LOL
Might run one Ultimate Infestation in my Ramp-Quest Druid deck, or even two if it proves to be that strong, but I'm not sure what to cut for it. Drawing 5 huge 0 mana minions will be great though.
GazzerS
Druid has a Quest?!
Blood knight will be the ultimate card as a tech against divine shield pally, and a good card to have in divine shield pally
simulacrum will probably buff the hell out of exodia mage because sorceror's apprentices are gonna be the only low cost minions you'd keep in your hand so this could be used to speed up the set up
I want to make a theif priest with mind vision, thoughtsteal, devour mind, the new legendary, and all the other copy cards that we have
11:09 that's what made control ancestral spirit shaman work... shaman used to be hunter as in unplayable ancestral spirit never worked
Ultimate Infestation in Jade Druid. Kreygasm.
_Only savanna highmane has been, uhhh, died so far._
I love this channel.
For obsidian statue couldn't you inner fire so it would be a 10 mana 8/8 with taunt lifeseal and deathrattle?
Glacial mysteries might be crazy if that brawl with a 10 card deck returns, instead of having a 10 card deck you would have a 5 card deck. Cause this card pulled all secrets out
summon 2 apprentices, simulacrum for 1 a malygos, 2 frost bolt for free 2 fireball for 2 by turn 9 for lethal, thats not bad considering exodia mage was a thing
Medivh + Glacial Mysteries. A 8 cost card for the Mage to summon something op from Atiesh
Ben Brode confirmed that the 5/5 ghoul from ultimate infestation can't be targeted by spells.
he also said they are considering bringing back old hemett because they have a new incredibly powerful beast druid deck.
I see a new type of control druid,like the old op ramp Druid but with spreading plague and ultimate infestation and get this just one copy of jade idol for never going in to fatigue(maybe jade blossoms also)
Screencap this it will be the new best druid
This was exactly what I was thinking. NOICE
All I see is aggro using the 1/5s as a counter to itself and other aggro decks, while being a final last thing against control.
Jade counters old school fatigue decks, i see jade druid with ultimate infestation
Also, can you imagine the Bright-Eyed Scout value?!
Not anymore, new card kills Jade Druid. So say goodbye to your prediction.
Tomb Lurker: Similar to Any-Fin, it's likely that the possibility of getting a card from your opponents deck will be a little worse than if it was only your cards since you can't control it as much.
Still, the card is unlikely to be BAD and unlike anyfin, it isn't going to be part of an OTK combo you built the deck around, but rather another value card.
The way this card reveals are going,i wouldnt be surprised if there was a rogue weapon that cant be destroyed in your opponent's turn or in general,would be cool and not imbalanced
Ultimate Infestation might be the most powerful card ever printed that also isn't overpowered. It's obviously incredible value, but I think it will only be a 1 of because the most limiting aspect of the card is actually the draw five. It's like bottom decking your lay on hands when you really just want the healing. Druids will still need mid game draw to pull their innervates and big cards so I don't think both nourishes will be cut. I'm wondering if it turns out to be Hunter Quest 2.0. as Trump has said multiple times, if you're playing a card that costs 8+ mana, it needs to win you the game or have an incredible effect. This card is a lategame powerhouse because of its combined effects, but on turn 10, dealing 5 damage might not be enough, a 5/5 might be too small, you might not need card draw, and 5 armor might not delay long enough. It might suffer from the mind control effect. Mind control is great value because it's "kill your opponents minion, then summon an exact copy" for 10 mana. Which sometimes makes it like, a 10 mana 12/12 battle cry deal 12 damage. INSANE VALUE. You're still dead / dying sometimes, but insane value.
Lay on hands is not even comparable to this. 8 mana draw 3, heal 8. Vs 10 mana draw 5, armor 5, deal 5 damage, summon 5/5.
does bolvar have to be on the board to get the +2 buff when a minion loses divine shield?
Definetly a buff to astral communion dekcs. Maybe it pushes them out of meme into tier 2.
13:00 BEST PART EVER CREATED BY MANKIND
"Ultimate Sadness"
3 Mana, Mage Secret:
Trigger a Counter Spell when Ultimate Infestation is played
cant wait for my new pure control rattle discover priest :D 30 minute games inc :D
What if the lowest cost minon in your hand is antonidas or malygos? Seems good
Simulacrum - if you have only Antonidas in your hand - copy it. If you have only Alexstrasza in your hand - copy it. It's not unlikely since Mage tends to run the least amount of minions of all classes.
@Trump - might be a dumb question, but if you use 'Envenom Weapon' and then do 'Balde Flurry'... does the poison take affect?
TeeOBeewhy01 *effect. Also no
How he said lifelink one time ;)
One of the biggest flaw of Ultimate Infestation is fatigue, but with Jade Druid, I think druid will be able to fit at least one in their deck, any thought ?
Does simulacrum make otk mage better? With the apprentices?
tomb lurker seems nice in paladino if youre trying to just fetch tirion
The more spells they add with D&D spell names the happier I get.
I think I'm going to craft mage quests. Seems like it's getting funny
Simulacrum is basically cheaper molten reflections for mage!
12:30 tomb lurker has iron helm from skyrim behind him xD
Wait guys I'm confuse... Is ultimate infestation a real card?
Has anyone considered that big mionons seem to get more and more stats so that the 5 damge might not be enough on turn 8 maybe you can never afford to play it
Tomb Lurker might also draw you an opponents deathrattle minion that has died.
With simulacrum the quest mage doesnt need alextraza, discount arcane giants to 0, play 2 sorcerers, play 2 simulacrums that cost 1 because of the sorcerers, play all 4 arcane giants, play the time warp that costs 3, do 32 damage to enemy face ok the extra turn. In total the combo costs 9 mana
Maybe i misunderstood trump but i think corpse raiser deathrattle is to resummon corpse raiser not the other minion?
*THE INFESTED MAN!*
Can you imagine getting counter spelled with this? Despair
I wonder how runeforge haunter+blade furry works, will the weapon be destoryed? Nonetheless, blade furry wouldn't see any play lol.
corpse raiser a doomslayer seem good enough to me!!!
what of you use the mage 3 cost card when you only have one minion in your hand that you want to copy?
maybe the paladin deathknight ability will cast hand of protection or something.
The weasel will see play to mess with all this revive and deathrattle mechanics
Maybe make Ultimate Infestation fit more the theme.
20 Costs, and the costs get reduced for each treant that got summond through you. Yes if an enemy gets an Treant from one of your effects it counts. Would make me more happier than that...
So . . . we don't use nourish for draw anymore?
Earth Shock is about to see a lot of play. . .
Jeremy Foss no it won't
13:00 i think i died 😂
runeforge haunter+violet illusionist+ foolsbane=boardclear for free if enemy doesnt have removal
Any1 else think the 5 card draw for Ultimate Infestation is a downside? I mean for 10 mana in a control deck, you're likely going to have to burn a card or two in using it since you likely aren't throwing enough cards out to have 5 cards in your hand when you cast it. Especially if you are slotting int TWO copies of this card.
Ultimate infestation will come into its own once auctioneer gets hof'd