Explore ungoro is legitimately the worst card ever printed. Your deck becomes an arena deck that costs 1 more mana per card. So instead of a deck that you put together with all the good cards, you are paying a price to choose from all of the bad cards.
The only thing that explore un'goro has going for it is that you get the discover the card, which gives you the option to pick the right card for the situation.
I killed a mill rogue with greedy priest, he didn't expect me to have stolen multiple coldlights, he had only played one gang up, I milled the mill. It was so satisfying.
Turn 2 you play burrloc and freeze the enemy minion, turn 3 you play warleader and use the now buffed burrloc to clear the frozen minion and you still have a burrloc
I'm going to be unwilling sacrifice's hypeman. Zoo is coming back. Spawn of N'Zoth could actually be viable with this card. Devilsaur egg, runic egg, and twilight summoner (although this isn't an entirely worthwhile card) work with it too. It gives you yet another activator for the deathrattles and removal. These also lead to some great synergy with Darkshire Councilman which has been lonely since forbidden ritual had left the meta.
I like how 'Smartypants' accused Trump of being dumb and Trump accurately pointing out he is not bringing forth an actual argument and he should. Only for the guy to bring forth an argument that was dismantled to be dumb by the person he accused of being dumb. Glorious how stupid people seem to always think they are smarter than everyone else eventually get a reality check.
They'll have a really small deck left so odds of drawing, Dr 7 into Tirion into N'zoth etc is a lot bigger after you've played that card. It might be a net positive, but the fact that dr 6. thins out your deck is equally important and that still happens even to a greater extent.
Secret Pally isn't that strong. I don't think I could be bothered to run a counter to that specific deck. Also eater of secrets is better for that purpose and also targets the actually relevant Freeze Mage mathup.
Eater of Secrets is a generalist tech against mage and paladin, but it's not an instant win even if you manage to play it with 1+ buffs. The merit is in its wider range of popular targets despite its relatively low payoff. Skulking Geist is almost a guaranteed win against exactly Jade Druid and also a strong card against Silence Priest. In high legend-where users run counter decks and hyper greedy control is a valid strategy-Skulking Geist is a very strong card in the "current meta", in which Jade Druid is a top-tier deck.
it's blowing my mind how people think brrloc is bad. exactly as Trump's mindset "it's glacial shard for 1 mana more, w/ only 1 more health". guys guys what if...... you ran BOTH OF THEM. it's not one or the other. you're allowed to run BOTH. holy shit, what a concept. now you have a 1 drop freeze AND a two drop freeze. easily build up your board w/o worrying about enemy minions killing your board.
Even if it had 1 more attack it would still be strictly worse than glacial shard. Sure you can run both. But its not really that good outside of a murloc deck.
roll the bones is nothing short of absolutely insane. finally theres another way besides coin innervate innervate hemet jungle hunter, which is a 4 card combo, to destroy your entire deck on turn 1. this card will revolutionize the concede meta and i will be proudly grinding with it on ladder
Valeera the hollow is amazing it is practically ice block for rogues in some match ups and then you get a bonkers card duplication hero power. It's the best miracle/control rogue 9 drop that will ever be printed
I don't understand how you can compare this to Ice block in any possible way. They have 0 similarities. Ps. Nvm I read the card it also gives stealth. Was listening to this video while playing missed that part.
Not everyone sees this instantly, but 1) freeze works well with aoe, 2) aoe works well in control decks, 3) shaman has tonns of aoe, Primordial drake is extra AoE and control tool 4) control decks like to use Primordial Drake and Curator, Brrloc gets fetched by Curator, 5) you get value by freezing minions with Moorabi and Ice Breaker, but freeze is tempo at it's finest, so you stay in game while getting value. I guess this new deck is bound to exist, maybe not tier 1 tho, but a solid tier 2-3 deck for sure.
I'm thinking there can be some kinda combo with Unlicensed Apothecary + Treachery. Like.. you give them a 5/5, sure, but now when they summon minions, they're gonna take 5 damage to the face. One idea I had would be something like... Apothecary -> Treachery -> Dorty Rat x2. They get a 5/5 + 2 of their minions without battlecries and take 10 damage, and you get two 2/6 taunts that aren't talking. I think there's got to be a better way to make this combo, but I don't know it. I'd love to hear some more ideas on this matter. :3
If your opponent mulligans their quest, or keep it and dont play it turn 1, play druid 2x innervate 1x coin into Skulking Geist I know just a dumb thought XD
Don't know if anyone commented it before (Didn't want to spoil me with the comment section:D), but desperate stand on a minion with freaking spikeridged steed on is insane...
I think you looked over a couple of things. Unwilling Sacrifice: if you do the quest you can sacrifice an imp late game. It may also be a good trade off in arena but not so great standard. We'll see. Burrloc: I've played a lot of quest shaman and a turn 2 card that helps stabilize against some aggro decks makes it much more playable. Quest on turn 1, burrloc turn 2 to freeze, then one of your 3 drops to get control. Keeps from getting as easily steamrolled. At least I hope it will. Quest shm is fun.
Trump-what about quest pally? most of their buffs are 1 cost, and it will destroy secrets too. Additionally, the razorleaf into lillian voss is actually good, it could possibly counter that ?
The new valeera could potentially be good with shadowcaster because after the first double shadowcaster you would get a free 6 Mana shadowcaster every turn
Unwilling Sacrifice in Zoo is so strong. Delete the enemies big taunt that's dropped on the board. That's insanely strong in an aggro deck. Sucks in any type of control.
Brrloc "There's no way this card will ever be good" Dr. Boom "There's no way this card will ever be good" :thinking: In all seriousness, he doesnt even look on the upsides, the murloc tag is huge (I can think of 4 cards that benefit or benefit from the murloc tag off the top of my head), freezing a minion allows for murloc decks to develop a board, and the one extra health allows it to stay alive versus hero powers. Turn 1: tidecaller Turn 2: freeze an opposing 1-drop or 2-drop Turn 3: warleader into a favorable trade with brrloc and go face with your 5 attack tidecaller
Skulking Geist is not an elegant solution. On the contrary. It is a play that harms the opponent badly (how badly, depends on the deck - sometimes losing a one cost card destroys the whole strategy - against a plant rogue that could discard 4 cards from his hand) that has no way to be countered or played around. - and that goes against the spirit of the game, which is much worse than any power level issues.
With the Valeera card, why would it not copy the cost reduction? When minions get copied, it keeps any stat changes they've had, or effects like frozen that are on them. If you're putting an actual copy of the card as it was when it was played into your hand, what prevents it from copying anything that modified it, like things that buffed a minion in-hand or reduced the card's cost? Is this just Trump guessing, or has it been confirmed to act like that?
Well because I don't play Warlock, ever, at all, at least in constructed. Free to Play Plebs like me play at most 3 Classes. Can't wait to copy Jade Deathrattles all Day with the undead Valeera, in Wild, because Healbot is still a thing there
Young priestess definitely saw play in zoo back in the late beta/naxx era. The card quality is even higher now and the priest card is like a worse priestess so I doubt it will see play. If iron sensei couldn't make any (good) rogue lists this won't make any priest lists
I really hate that math people did for the 15 deathrattles for roll the bones to be good. It's so misleading. With 15 deathrattle cards in your deck, you will average 1.9 cards per cast. That's worth 2.85 mana. For this to be worth 2 mana, you need only 11 deathrattle cards in your deck. Yes, you will draw only 1 card more than half the time, but there is a chance for you to just win the game from this card if you get lucky. There's a little worst than 1/8 chance you draw 3 cards for 2 mana. So about 1/8 the time you get 3 mana of savings... in a 2 cost card.
isnt the idea behind unwilling sacrifice that you would use it to trigger a deathrattle minion that you cant usually eg a devilsaur egg on the same turn you play it so rather then waiting a turn to buff it and attack into something your paying 6mana for a 5/5 and minion removal?
you are also paying an extra card and you might even not remove the right target. also you must have both an egg on the board and sacrifice in your hand, so its too inconsistent
Максим Ветров - its like deadly shot though the skill is are you able to engineer the board to get better value eg trade into your opponents lower cost minions and it punishes your opponent for dropping high value cards
Ян Котляров - Yeah mostly eggs are anti board clear so could maybe work in a new warlock deck we got nerubian with naxx so I so we are going to get more eggs it would make sense to get them this expansion. but I think if deathrattle warlock is a thing its will be a key engine in getting your affects off. I say eggs but if theres something like a sylvanas in this new set the ability to turn your delayed deathrattle effect into a instant cast might be useful so you can treat your deathrattles abit more like tech cards?
Not quite, since Berserker Soul tosses away the cards to deal damage. If anything, this card is more like Super Koi Koi. Koi koi koi koi koiiii! Nice meme tho :P
I don't think anyone has talked about this, but I think that the Valeera Deathknight is gonna be great in Jade Rogue (not like tier 1, because you might not draw it, but still). We saw back in Gadgetzan how good Brann got with a collection of cheap Jade Shaman cards to create a midrange deck that could ramp into some serious late game minions, and Valeera works not just with battlecries but Shurikens and Swarmers too. I don't think it's tier 1, but I could see it pushing Jade Rogue up to tier 2.
Ok, how's THIS for a sick (aka terrible) Valeera the Hollow combo: Rig your deck so that Malygos is the only minion left. Play Barnes for 1/1 Maly, play DUPLICATE Barnes for a second 1/1 Maly, then double Sinister Strike for 26 (or prep+eviscerate if you have them). Rogues have enough spells/weapons to control the board until turn 9 if you want to run ONLY Barnes + Maly (like Barnes + Y'Shaarj hunter), and with cards like Mimic Pod and Thistle Tea giving you more ammo you could hold out. You just need to avoid drawing Maly before Barnes/turn 10. And if you happen to Pod/Tea Barnes you could combo without Valeera. I know this is a god-awful combo that will never see play, just thinking...
but unwilling sac is a good way to pop eggs geist also seems good in taunt control paladin, as the only deck that wrecks me (along with jade druid) is shaman due to devolve -> bloodlust
Skulking Geist is very interesting in many ways. Let's speak about what cards it will destroy in current meta from tier1-2 decks, and will be it playable in this decks too: Freeze\Control mage - nothing to destroy! Only cards generated with some kind of discovery, so it's a very nice tech for this deck because it will help to win the worst match up (Jade druid) - but not because of destroying Jade Idol, but because of destroying Earthen Scales! Great card for this deck. Pirate Warrior - Upgrade!, not a big deal, so this card is useless against it. And of course it useless in pirate warrior list too (as in all aggro lists of other classes). Token Shaman - unplayable in this deck, but awesome against! Let's say you play some kind of control deck against shaman. They have 2 win conditions in this case - board and Bloodlust and the second one is Doppelgangster + Evolve. So you remove Evolve from their deck and the only thing you must care about is his board. The Nice tool against Shaman! Aggro druid - as always unplayable in this deck, and not useless against, because you can remove Mark of the Lotus from their hand after they played their Living Mana. Jade druid - oh baby, I have no words. It will help control decks to be good again (because of destroying Jade Idol), and will help some of them to win with the help of destroying the Earthen Scales. Miracle Rogue - I don't think it playable here (becouse Jade is a good matchup anyway), but it good agains becouse of Hallucination (and if you play control restrict enemy's card generation is a key to win) and sometimes Razorpetal and Cold Blood will be removed too. All kind of Priest - here I also dont think that it will be helpful here, becouse of many playble cards for 1 mana in priest, but against: Power Word: Shield, Potion of Madness and sometimes Inner Fire - yes baby. Midrange\Control Paladin - bad against, but a very nice tech tool for this deck. And my favorite: TAUNT WARRIOR. Or my god its soooo good here (and so bad against). If you mulligan your quest against aggro, you can just remove it and have good defensive top decks (except Whirlwind). If you play against control the only thing you lose is 1 Whirlwind (of course you will not play Shield Slam if you play this card). Two worst matchups for this deck are Jade Druid and Miracle Rogue - and it will help with first a lot! and with second a little bit. So let's make some conclusions: Very good card to play in Taunt Warrior, Conroll Mage and some sorts of Paladin. It will help this decks to counter the worst matchup - Jade Druid, and help a little bit in many other matchups (either aggro and control) with Tier1-2 decks. Bad cards to play in aggro decks. And a nice tool to restrict Jade Druid not removing them at all (becouse they can win without Jade Idol), pushing control decks. I love this card. P.S. sorry for my english.
Lilian Voss in cata is from 2010: wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Lilian_Voss Liliana Vess in mtg is from 2007: magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/savor-flavor/planeswalkers-unmasked-2007-10-24
I think Skulking Geist is also pretty good against the Lilian Voss deck incase that deck becomes good. Kills razor petals, cold bloods, xeril potions, hallucinate and such
Yeah, nine mana card with questionable effect and no immediate impact on the board will see play. In rogue too, because rogues are well knows for being keen on control play. Right...
That Lilian Voss can change the Cursed Card cast by enemy to put a card (cost 2 mana) to opponents hand that deal 2 damages to the hero at the start of the turn while it in your hand, right?
Jens I'm extremely disappointed that Trump's voice wasn't edited into Corrupted Trump during the phrase: "Ultimate Infestation". Extremely. Disappointed.
The freeze support for Shaman is playable, they are helping the murloc package, Brrloc freeze to have a higher chance of it developing fully and being able to War leader the next turn. It also works with 1/3 weapon (assuming it will be playable). I think Brrrloc is underrated... If Duelyst taught me anything is... Believe in the 2/2 freezes to become the underrated but secretly most annoying asf card in the expansion for a token/zoo type deck x.x
So if you play explore ungoro, and then the opponent plays skulking Geist does that destroy your entire deck?
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augmenautus rex yes, self mill warrior hype!!!
Explore ungoro is legitimately the worst card ever printed. Your deck becomes an arena deck that costs 1 more mana per card. So instead of a deck that you put together with all the good cards, you are paying a price to choose from all of the bad cards.
The only thing that explore un'goro has going for it is that you get the discover the card, which gives you the option to pick the right card for the situation.
And now the kripperinos wait....
Finally mill rogue has a chance against jade druid
+tygonmaster I don't know, maybe he had not drawn into them yet?
I still have the HSreplay on it. go to "L2f759sFfe9rUxMBkV8cGS"
Used to run Mill rogue... rogue shoulda been smart to not make you draw until it was making you burn cards. Seems like a poor player :V
not acyually
it feels good when burn good cards to your oponent
the only bad sinario id u dont get any murloc until u lose
I killed a mill rogue with greedy priest, he didn't expect me to have stolen multiple coldlights, he had only played one gang up, I milled the mill. It was so satisfying.
Turn 2 you play burrloc and freeze the enemy minion, turn 3 you play warleader and use the now buffed burrloc to clear the frozen minion and you still have a burrloc
That's the dream but it'd be too inconsistent and that's what card games are all about, rip
Lul because Hearthstone any consistency
Druid can play 2 2/2's on turn 1 and then buff them on turn 2. If you play a 2 mana 2/2 you are going to lose the game by turn 6
Yotam Shitrit you obviously have to follow it up with a 4 mana 7/7
turn 3 u use icebreaker. it's clearly meant for taunt minions.
I'm going to be unwilling sacrifice's hypeman. Zoo is coming back. Spawn of N'Zoth could actually be viable with this card. Devilsaur egg, runic egg, and twilight summoner (although this isn't an entirely worthwhile card) work with it too. It gives you yet another activator for the deathrattles and removal. These also lead to some great synergy with Darkshire Councilman which has been lonely since forbidden ritual had left the meta.
Love the editing in this video. Well done!
I like how 'Smartypants' accused Trump of being dumb and Trump accurately pointing out he is not bringing forth an actual argument and he should. Only for the guy to bring forth an argument that was dismantled to be dumb by the person he accused of being dumb. Glorious how stupid people seem to always think they are smarter than everyone else eventually get a reality check.
Geist is good against secret pally...
if you play him before buisness-man...
and play wild
They'll have a really small deck left so odds of drawing, Dr 7 into Tirion into N'zoth etc is a lot bigger after you've played that card. It might be a net positive, but the fact that dr 6. thins out your deck is equally important and that still happens even to a greater extent.
Sure but Trump doesn't consider Wild in these reviews.
Secret Pally isn't that strong. I don't think I could be bothered to run a counter to that specific deck. Also eater of secrets is better for that purpose and also targets the actually relevant Freeze Mage mathup.
Eater of Secrets is a generalist tech against mage and paladin, but it's not an instant win even if you manage to play it with 1+ buffs. The merit is in its wider range of popular targets despite its relatively low payoff. Skulking Geist is almost a guaranteed win against exactly Jade Druid and also a strong card against Silence Priest. In high legend-where users run counter decks and hyper greedy control is a valid strategy-Skulking Geist is a very strong card in the "current meta", in which Jade Druid is a top-tier deck.
Seeing Trump get all those subs made me happy
:D
Jens has really been nailing the animations and editing
that ending was amazing
it's blowing my mind how people think brrloc is bad. exactly as Trump's mindset "it's glacial shard for 1 mana more, w/ only 1 more health".
guys
guys
what if......
you ran BOTH OF THEM. it's not one or the other. you're allowed to run BOTH.
holy shit, what a concept. now you have a 1 drop freeze AND a two drop freeze. easily build up your board w/o worrying about enemy minions killing your board.
9:03
Crash Bandicoot WOAH
Even if it had 1 more attack it would still be strictly worse than glacial shard. Sure you can run both. But its not really that good outside of a murloc deck.
woah. Woah WOAH WOWOWOWOWAAAAAHHHWOWHAHAHWWOOAAAHHWHAHHOO
And while your playing your stat inefficient minions they're playing 2/3's
Trump roasting Twitch comments is the best part of any episode.
roll the bones is nothing short of absolutely insane.
finally theres another way besides coin innervate innervate hemet jungle hunter, which is a 4 card combo, to destroy your entire deck on turn 1. this card will revolutionize the concede meta and i will be proudly grinding with it on ladder
Valeera the hollow is amazing it is practically ice block for rogues in some match ups and then you get a bonkers card duplication hero power. It's the best miracle/control rogue 9 drop that will ever be printed
I don't understand how you can compare this to Ice block in any possible way. They have 0 similarities.
Ps. Nvm I read the card it also gives stealth. Was listening to this video while playing missed that part.
Not everyone sees this instantly, but
1) freeze works well with aoe,
2) aoe works well in control decks,
3) shaman has tonns of aoe, Primordial drake is extra AoE and control tool
4) control decks like to use Primordial Drake and Curator, Brrloc gets fetched by Curator,
5) you get value by freezing minions with Moorabi and Ice Breaker, but freeze is tempo at it's finest, so you stay in game while getting value.
I guess this new deck is bound to exist, maybe not tier 1 tho, but a solid tier 2-3 deck for sure.
Desperate Stand seems to be a great card for the Divine Shield Paladin that they are currently pushing.
I'm thinking there can be some kinda combo with Unlicensed Apothecary + Treachery. Like.. you give them a 5/5, sure, but now when they summon minions, they're gonna take 5 damage to the face.
One idea I had would be something like... Apothecary -> Treachery -> Dorty Rat x2. They get a 5/5 + 2 of their minions without battlecries and take 10 damage, and you get two 2/6 taunts that aren't talking.
I think there's got to be a better way to make this combo, but I don't know it. I'd love to hear some more ideas on this matter. :3
In wild, the Rogue death knight makes the brann + shadowcaster bullshit a lot more consistent to pull off (but a lot harder to plan out).
Valeera's strength isn't in enabling combos, it's adding late game fuel to miracle when you're running dry.
Skulking Geist also destroys Explore Un'Goro Warrior. Why is no one mentioning this?
The Almighty Arceus because it is a crap that no one uses
Cursos Profissionais I've reached Rank 20 with Explore Un'Goro Warrior so I know it's a threat to be dealt with
The Almighty Arceus because rank 20 is where the meta rank is and so isn't a noob rank kappa. You just need (little) skill to get out of that rank.
You must be invited to loads of parties man, you seem like a person anyone would love to hang around with.
Feel free to take that literally as well.
If your opponent mulligans their quest, or keep it and dont play it turn 1, play druid 2x innervate 1x coin into Skulking Geist
I know just a dumb thought XD
Don't know if anyone commented it before (Didn't want to spoil me with the comment section:D), but desperate stand on a minion with freaking spikeridged steed on is insane...
I think you looked over a couple of things.
Unwilling Sacrifice: if you do the quest you can sacrifice an imp late game. It may also be a good trade off in arena but not so great standard. We'll see.
Burrloc: I've played a lot of quest shaman and a turn 2 card that helps stabilize against some aggro decks makes it much more playable. Quest on turn 1, burrloc turn 2 to freeze, then one of your 3 drops to get control. Keeps from getting as easily steamrolled. At least I hope it will. Quest shm is fun.
Trump-what about quest pally? most of their buffs are 1 cost, and it will destroy secrets too. Additionally, the razorleaf into lillian voss is actually good, it could possibly counter that ?
Skulking Geist also counters the Rogue Hero from doing Sinister Strike combos
The new valeera could potentially be good with shadowcaster because after the first double shadowcaster you would get a free 6 Mana shadowcaster every turn
Wow Jens actually made his hypothetical example lol. Well done good sir
Unwilling Sacrifice in Zoo is so strong. Delete the enemies big taunt that's dropped on the board. That's insanely strong in an aggro deck. Sucks in any type of control.
Brrloc "There's no way this card will ever be good"
Dr. Boom "There's no way this card will ever be good"
:thinking:
In all seriousness, he doesnt even look on the upsides, the murloc tag is huge (I can think of 4 cards that benefit or benefit from the murloc tag off the top of my head), freezing a minion allows for murloc decks to develop a board, and the one extra health allows it to stay alive versus hero powers.
Turn 1: tidecaller
Turn 2: freeze an opposing 1-drop or 2-drop
Turn 3: warleader into a favorable trade with brrloc and go face with your 5 attack tidecaller
If brrrloc was actually a Neutral/Paladin card, I will say the card becomes like an 80% more playable.
This gonna be hilarious at the next 'Trump reviews Trump reviews'
Treachery is great for co-op Brawls. ;)
9:10 -because of this, Brrrloc will somehow become meta defining.
Skulking Geist is not an elegant solution. On the contrary. It is a play that harms the opponent badly (how badly, depends on the deck - sometimes losing a one cost card destroys the whole strategy - against a plant rogue that could discard 4 cards from his hand) that has no way to be countered or played around. - and that goes against the spirit of the game, which is much worse than any power level issues.
Skulking geist is also good against miracle/aggro rouge.
Treachery your acolyte of pain then mill your opponent. Or... Summon bomb squad use its battle cry then hit it with treachery to damage your opponent.
With the Valeera card, why would it not copy the cost reduction? When minions get copied, it keeps any stat changes they've had, or effects like frozen that are on them. If you're putting an actual copy of the card as it was when it was played into your hand, what prevents it from copying anything that modified it, like things that buffed a minion in-hand or reduced the card's cost? Is this just Trump guessing, or has it been confirmed to act like that?
Skulking Gheist is the counter to explore Un'goro which we've been waiting for! Praise 🅱️en 🅱️rode
1:49. "Someone has done that statistcs". Trump the math genius.
In Wild: Unwilling Sacrifice + Sylvanas
>Young Priestess never saw play
*Violent flashbacks to vanilla hearthstone zoo*
Do you think that blizzard might add some cards to the set with tournaments in mind?
Wait...Xaril isn't wild yet. So you can run Xaril with LIlian Voss. Right?
Well because I don't play Warlock, ever, at all, at least in constructed. Free to Play Plebs like me play at most 3 Classes. Can't wait to copy Jade Deathrattles all Day with the undead Valeera, in Wild, because Healbot is still a thing there
I know it said mid-August, but is there 1 more week left of before the Frozen cards release?
Valeera looks good with Jade though. Slamming two jades every turn instead of one is not exactly a "small" benefit.
If you moat lurker enemy deathwing, then treachery it and kill it, will the deathwing be on your board?
Feel like Ethereal Peddler deserved a mention with Lilian Voss.
hearthstone has turned into magic spoiler season for me "shit, shit, shit , edh card, limited bomb, oh look a good card"
Oh boi that meme potential on treachery
Old control warrior is back
9:00 Trump, you will regret this...
Noooo, my OP quest hunter that I was planning to unleash at the start of the expansion is dead! Curse you Blizzaaarrrrd!
It shouldn't be affected.
I don't even care if Valeera the Hollow is bad because i'm going to be using the shit out of her! That's soooo cooool!
Young priestess definitely saw play in zoo back in the late beta/naxx era. The card quality is even higher now and the priest card is like a worse priestess so I doubt it will see play. If iron sensei couldn't make any (good) rogue lists this won't make any priest lists
HA SKULKING GEIST HURTS JADE IDOL? FOOL, I WILL BE BUSY COUNTERING QUEST HUNTER!
9:04 THE MADMAN
Oh shit control warrior might be playable again
I really hate that math people did for the 15 deathrattles for roll the bones to be good. It's so misleading. With 15 deathrattle cards in your deck, you will average 1.9 cards per cast. That's worth 2.85 mana. For this to be worth 2 mana, you need only 11 deathrattle cards in your deck. Yes, you will draw only 1 card more than half the time, but there is a chance for you to just win the game from this card if you get lucky. There's a little worst than 1/8 chance you draw 3 cards for 2 mana. So about 1/8 the time you get 3 mana of savings... in a 2 cost card.
But Trump, Skulking Geist counters the insane Malygos, Coin , Sinister, Sinister
Warlock has a lot of minions that want to kill you already, someone make a felhound treachery combo and burn the other guys hand
OMG ITS A MURLOC! WOOOO ~flys away~
Oh, i love you jens
isnt the idea behind unwilling sacrifice that you would use it to trigger a deathrattle minion that you cant usually eg a devilsaur egg on the same turn you play it so rather then waiting a turn to buff it and attack into something your paying 6mana for a 5/5 and minion removal?
you are also paying an extra card and you might even not remove the right target. also you must have both an egg on the board and sacrifice in your hand, so its too inconsistent
still, for a warlock, a minion is much cheaper than a mana crystal.
also we does not have much eggs. probably will see play if blizz add more eggs, but now....
Максим Ветров - its like deadly shot though the skill is are you able to engineer the board to get better value eg trade into your opponents lower cost minions and it punishes your opponent for dropping high value cards
Ян Котляров - Yeah mostly eggs are anti board clear so could maybe work in a new warlock deck we got nerubian with naxx so I so we are going to get more eggs it would make sense to get them this expansion. but I think if deathrattle warlock is a thing its will be a key engine in getting your affects off. I say eggs but if theres something like a sylvanas in this new set the ability to turn your delayed deathrattle effect into a instant cast might be useful so you can treat your deathrattles abit more like tech cards?
Man, if you watched the stream, Trump spent like 40 minutes trying to figure out Valeera. Jens is amazing.
And I thought Skulking Geist targets the infamous Explore Un'Goro deck.
DURO DEATHRATTLE CARDO!!!
I get that reference, sir.
For the record i drew another deathrattle card!!!
Shrish Vellore haaaa I see what you did there.
Shrish Vellore HANASE!!
Not quite, since Berserker Soul tosses away the cards to deal damage. If anything, this card is more like Super Koi Koi. Koi koi koi koi koiiii!
Nice meme tho :P
9:00 clearly the best part. Good job on that one Jens. Couldn't stop laughing for a while.
Oh boy glad warlock is gonna be playable again
*sees card reveals*
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I don't think anyone has talked about this, but I think that the Valeera Deathknight is gonna be great in Jade Rogue (not like tier 1, because you might not draw it, but still). We saw back in Gadgetzan how good Brann got with a collection of cheap Jade Shaman cards to create a midrange deck that could ramp into some serious late game minions, and Valeera works not just with battlecries but Shurikens and Swarmers too. I don't think it's tier 1, but I could see it pushing Jade Rogue up to tier 2.
remember what happend last time when you underestamaited roge legendary :DDDD
You all call Skulking a Jade counter... PFFt.
Its clearly a measure put in the game to prevent Explore Ungoro from getting too powerful.
Re upload? Well did you make sure to monetize the video atleast Trump?
At 9:17 he forgot about our best friend, ticking abomination!
Ok, how's THIS for a sick (aka terrible) Valeera the Hollow combo: Rig your deck so that Malygos is the only minion left. Play Barnes for 1/1 Maly, play DUPLICATE Barnes for a second 1/1 Maly, then double Sinister Strike for 26 (or prep+eviscerate if you have them).
Rogues have enough spells/weapons to control the board until turn 9 if you want to run ONLY Barnes + Maly (like Barnes + Y'Shaarj hunter), and with cards like Mimic Pod and Thistle Tea giving you more ammo you could hold out. You just need to avoid drawing Maly before Barnes/turn 10. And if you happen to Pod/Tea Barnes you could combo without Valeera.
I know this is a god-awful combo that will never see play, just thinking...
but unwilling sac is a good way to pop eggs
geist also seems good in taunt control paladin, as the only deck that wrecks me (along with jade druid) is shaman due to devolve -> bloodlust
Skulking Geist is very interesting in many ways.
Let's speak about what cards it will destroy in current meta from tier1-2 decks, and will be it playable in this decks too:
Freeze\Control mage - nothing to destroy! Only cards generated with some kind of discovery, so it's a very nice tech for this deck because it will help to win the worst match up (Jade druid) - but not because of destroying Jade Idol, but because of destroying Earthen Scales! Great card for this deck.
Pirate Warrior - Upgrade!, not a big deal, so this card is useless against it. And of course it useless in pirate warrior list too (as in all aggro lists of other classes).
Token Shaman - unplayable in this deck, but awesome against! Let's say you play some kind of control deck against shaman. They have 2 win conditions in this case - board and Bloodlust and the second one is Doppelgangster + Evolve. So you remove Evolve from their deck and the only thing you must care about is his board. The Nice tool against Shaman!
Aggro druid - as always unplayable in this deck, and not useless against, because you can remove Mark of the Lotus from their hand after they played their Living Mana.
Jade druid - oh baby, I have no words. It will help control decks to be good again (because of destroying Jade Idol), and will help some of them to win with the help of destroying the Earthen Scales.
Miracle Rogue - I don't think it playable here (becouse Jade is a good matchup anyway), but it good agains becouse of Hallucination (and if you play control restrict enemy's card generation is a key to win) and sometimes Razorpetal and Cold Blood will be removed too.
All kind of Priest - here I also dont think that it will be helpful here, becouse of many playble cards for 1 mana in priest, but against: Power Word: Shield, Potion of Madness and sometimes Inner Fire - yes baby.
Midrange\Control Paladin - bad against, but a very nice tech tool for this deck.
And my favorite: TAUNT WARRIOR. Or my god its soooo good here (and so bad against). If you mulligan your quest against aggro, you can just remove it and have good defensive top decks (except Whirlwind). If you play against control the only thing you lose is 1 Whirlwind (of course you will not play Shield Slam if you play this card). Two worst matchups for this deck are Jade Druid and Miracle Rogue - and it will help with first a lot! and with second a little bit.
So let's make some conclusions: Very good card to play in Taunt Warrior, Conroll Mage and some sorts of Paladin. It will help this decks to counter the worst matchup - Jade Druid, and help a little bit in many other matchups (either aggro and control) with Tier1-2 decks. Bad cards to play in aggro decks. And a nice tool to restrict Jade Druid not removing them at all (becouse they can win without Jade Idol), pushing control decks.
I love this card.
P.S. sorry for my english.
That was some serious value gained that day XD
Lilian Voss? Sounds like a knockoff Liliana Vess...
- Dicsmite - could just be an homage, she's been in WoW for years.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Those names are really similar :D
Lilian Voss in cata is from 2010:
wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Lilian_Voss
Liliana Vess in mtg is from 2007:
magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/savor-flavor/planeswalkers-unmasked-2007-10-24
Lilian Voss was first added to WoW because of a devs appreciation for MTG as an homage to Liliana Vess.
Well, it isn't the first time Hearthstone has, let's say borrowed, from MtG. This time it's just the name and homages are fine with me.
I think Skulking Geist is also pretty good against the Lilian Voss deck incase that deck becomes good. Kills razor petals, cold bloods, xeril potions, hallucinate and such
Yeah, nine mana card with questionable effect and no immediate impact on the board will see play. In rogue too, because rogues are well knows for being keen on control play.
Right...
Desperate Stand? Only a man named JoJo will play that. WINK WINK PLEASE LAUGH IF YOU GET IT
That Lilian Voss can change the Cursed Card cast by enemy to put a card (cost 2 mana) to opponents hand that deal 2 damages to the hero at the start of the turn while it in your hand, right?
Dat subtrain trolling, tho.
Reverse psychology: it always works.
Am I crazy or does the rouge deathnight pair all to well with the rouge quest? Well at least I finally got that quest
Desperate Stand x2 + redemtion x2 + tirion + nzoth = concede turn 5 because aggro exists
Brrloc is gonna become the next patches. Called it first, tell me when Im right.
I play murloc Decks quite a lot and turns out the murloc keyword is actually really a big deal
Jens I'm extremely disappointed that Trump's voice wasn't edited into Corrupted Trump during the phrase: "Ultimate Infestation". Extremely. Disappointed.
I'm not happy, Bob. Not. Happy.
Turn 8 dagger + vanish, Turn 9 Valeera DK, Turn 10 Southsea+cold blood x3+faceless+razorpetal/evis/sinister/etc. = 30+ dmg
Roppis Nice.
why the reupload?
lololol all those prime subs got you good Trump, such pranksters indeed
Jens awesome job with the edition
Finally we get a counter to quest hunter in Skulking Geist.
I wish they'd stop making bad Warlock cards.
Valeera for quest decks.
Would be a bad inclusion
Valeera is kind of like. controlled chrommagus.
The freeze support for Shaman is playable, they are helping the murloc package, Brrloc freeze to have a higher chance of it developing fully and being able to War leader the next turn. It also works with 1/3 weapon (assuming it will be playable). I think Brrrloc is underrated... If Duelyst taught me anything is... Believe in the 2/2 freezes to become the underrated but secretly most annoying asf card in the expansion for a token/zoo type deck x.x
Trump preyed upon by a 'Subscriber Guild'.
desperate stand, perhaps the elemental 1/1 deal 3 damage to a random enemy