The Foiling Dinghy is an outstanding design of a foiing sail boat. Innovative but special. The video shows how if behaves in offshore wind conditions. Gusty wind 8-14kn but no waves.
Really not a fan of how this boat was designed. I can't say much from your video but from others It really doesn't seem to fly with stability and can't foil tack. The Laser-like sheeting system is too slow for quick adjustments, should be more like a moth's or an optimist's. I haven't seen it crash yet, but the bow design is purelly asethetical, because on a bad pitchpole it really seems to promise nosediving... The C inwards foils are an interesting choice, but I am guessing that they are not easy to adjust on the go. for a singlehander I would expect something more like a T foil + wand or two Outward J foils, where you are able to lift the windward one with a quick pull of a sheet... The only thing I can suggest for you is that you should hike using the top of your foot, not your ankles, otherwise your body position looks good! (sometimes you do this)
"I agree. Within 10 minutes, you start to see the design flaws. The tiller extension is not the right tool for this. A longer tiller with U-shaped bars extending off either side of the tiller would be better. The sheet controls need to go back more toward the center. I have seen on more sophisticated foil sailboats that one foil is out of the water. One question: If there was a crewmate, would they adjust the foils?"
Nice boat. How do you think - would it be hard to change it's foil system to AC75 concept from wing assembly point of view? I'm looking for a kinda donor for such experiment. if there would be electronic control over foils angle/ride height/stability the boat would be much easier to sail also in smaller winds.
Yes, I also thought about this. With new foils an some changes in the trimming system this should be possible. An electronic ride hight control system we will Test on a Whisper next weeks.
@@jaysparc considering some of the off the shelf auto-stability devices already on the market, I think this may just be in the realm of feasible. Not easy, but something that could be accomplished. The fact that ride height control is mechanically self regulating on a Moth, and electronically so on an AC40. You can get small flight controllers for RC craft that can take inputs from laser or inertial sensors. I guess in one sense the question is: if you're building a 1 person dinghy, why not just stick with the moth method, as you'll be hiking out for righting stability anyway? It has been proven on a Laser as well.
@@weatheranddarknessWhy don't you go ask the makers of the AC40 how "easy" it is to make a foiling yacht with auto flight technology. You sound like the kind of person who thinks easily describing a problem means that the solution is equally as simple. Show me your working prototype, then I'll stop thinking your just pulling stuff out of your behind.
@@jaysparc I didn't say it was "easy" I just said it was feasible. Some of the key hardware components to make it work are available off the shelf these days. I don't see why you're jumping down my throat here. Your beef was with the other guy. All i'm trying to say is that you should let this person experiment on their ambition, if they fail they fail, if they succeed, they succeed. No skin off my back, nor yours.
You have done several mistake in this plan. When touch 14 knt go down of bow. Foils too aft and mast too Fwd. Using a sail plan with a jib and positioning correctly the foils your boat will fly. ❤😊
o projeto é promissor, mas falta estabilisadores no foil e no leme pois eles não conseguem sustentar o veleiro fora da água. os veleiros IMOCA estão com o mesmo prblemas.
Where are you from? Kam about to sell mine. www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/the-foiling-dinghy-jolle-einhand-foiling/1560107760-211-7706?ToPasteboard&
I am in England on the south coast. I would absolutely love this boat but I fear it would be out of my price range at this time. I think if I sold the 4 dinghies I already have, that might help! (They are an obsession haha)
After watching this video I would never buy this boat. It's barely sailable. Looks like it would pitchpole horrifically if you ever got to speed. 13 knots is nothing to write home about.
The following is the setting for a fresh breeze. I use minimum lift on the rudder to reduce the risk of nosediveing in displacement mode. If I use more lift at the main foils, I fly to high and get spin outs at the leeward foil.
@@berndbuck8332 from my actual experience it may help to put the rudder angle about 0.3-1.0 degree to more lift at the rudder. This reduces the lift of the main foils and at my boat dramaticaly the stalls/spin offs. At the speed where the nose dives the lift of the rudder is not significant. It can be compensated by slower acceleration - let the boat more time when tighten the sheet - and sitting more to the back. It becomes really stable on the foils, the mainfoil setting is then much less important.
@@fthagnryleh4951 subsets to this. buy one, use portions. from, paddle boat to laser-class to outboard to foil to sail-foil. one packaged price. am i funny.?
Really not a fan of how this boat was designed. I can't say much from your video but from others It really doesn't seem to fly with stability and can't foil tack. The Laser-like sheeting system is too slow for quick adjustments, should be more like a moth's or an optimist's. I haven't seen it crash yet, but the bow design is purelly asethetical, because on a bad pitchpole it really seems to promise nosediving... The C inwards foils are an interesting choice, but I am guessing that they are not easy to adjust on the go. for a singlehander I would expect something more like a T foil + wand or two Outward J foils, where you are able to lift the windward one with a quick pull of a sheet...
The only thing I can suggest for you is that you should hike using the top of your foot, not your ankles, otherwise your body position looks good! (sometimes you do this)
"I agree. Within 10 minutes, you start to see the design flaws. The tiller extension is not the right tool for this. A longer tiller with U-shaped bars extending off either side of the tiller would be better. The sheet controls need to go back more toward the center. I have seen on more sophisticated foil sailboats that one foil is out of the water. One question: If there was a crewmate, would they adjust the foils?"
The sound is amazing
I love the foiling sound
I like how the higher out the water you are, the more and higher it howls...
Wenn Du noch ein bisschen weiter hinten sitzt kommst Du ein ticken schneller ins foilen. Ansonsten sehr schönes Video.
How much experience do you need to do that? My level is RYA 2 which means sailing a relatively big dinghy with a jib
Why buy this when you can get a Intl moth
It sounds like a levitating vehicle, supercool. Nice Husky on the back.
Rorschacher Bucht bis Altenrhein? Aber so richtig hebt das Ding noch nicht ab, oder?
Comment ça passe dans les vagues ? ça doit enfourner non ?
Not very fast for a foiler.
Nice boat. How do you think - would it be hard to change it's foil system to AC75 concept from wing assembly point of view? I'm looking for a kinda donor for such experiment. if there would be electronic control over foils angle/ride height/stability the boat would be much easier to sail also in smaller winds.
Yes, I also thought about this. With new foils an some changes in the trimming system this should be possible.
An electronic ride hight control system we will Test on a Whisper next weeks.
The fact that you're asking such ridiculous questions indicates your well out of your depth.
@@jaysparc considering some of the off the shelf auto-stability devices already on the market, I think this may just be in the realm of feasible. Not easy, but something that could be accomplished. The fact that ride height control is mechanically self regulating on a Moth, and electronically so on an AC40. You can get small flight controllers for RC craft that can take inputs from laser or inertial sensors.
I guess in one sense the question is: if you're building a 1 person dinghy, why not just stick with the moth method, as you'll be hiking out for righting stability anyway? It has been proven on a Laser as well.
@@weatheranddarknessWhy don't you go ask the makers of the AC40 how "easy" it is to make a foiling yacht with auto flight technology. You sound like the kind of person who thinks easily describing a problem means that the solution is equally as simple. Show me your working prototype, then I'll stop thinking your just pulling stuff out of your behind.
@@jaysparc I didn't say it was "easy" I just said it was feasible. Some of the key hardware components to make it work are available off the shelf these days. I don't see why you're jumping down my throat here. Your beef was with the other guy. All i'm trying to say is that you should let this person experiment on their ambition, if they fail they fail, if they succeed, they succeed. No skin off my back, nor yours.
You have done several mistake in this plan. When touch 14 knt go down of bow. Foils too aft and mast too Fwd. Using a sail plan with a jib and positioning correctly the foils your boat will fly. ❤😊
Thanks for posting. Looks sketchy but fun.
This is an amazing play machine!!! Wow.... :) :D
If you like this i really recommend you the waszp, is a little bit worse on displacement, but when it starts to fly is awesome
o projeto é promissor, mas falta estabilisadores no foil e no leme
pois eles não conseguem sustentar o veleiro fora da água.
os veleiros IMOCA estão com o mesmo prblemas.
Be nice with a trapeze
what is minimum weight to sail one
What shape are the foils
I don't know....
Who makes this dinghy? What is LOA? Thanks for the video?
It‘s build by AST in Potsdam
Where can I get one of these boats??
Where are you from?
Kam about to sell mine.
www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/the-foiling-dinghy-jolle-einhand-foiling/1560107760-211-7706?ToPasteboard&
I am in England on the south coast. I would absolutely love this boat but I fear it would be out of my price range at this time. I think if I sold the 4 dinghies I already have, that might help! (They are an obsession haha)
Hi Ashley, you may contact Stephen Blake, stephen@dynamic-sailing.com.
Hi, what is the name of this boat (set up)?
Where I can find it? Could you advice me please
Hi Alexander,
it is call The Foiling Dinghy and made by AST in Potsdam. Ask also me if you are interested in buying one.
Is the bow shape optimal, it looks like it tries to dig in at lower speeds?
Yes it looks nice but it’s tricky to sail in waves. You have to sit back to prevent nose dive.
ne semble pas au point vol trop instable, est-ce du aux foils ?
So whats it called and where can you buy one?
ast-yachts.com/the-foiling-dinghy/
After watching this video I would never buy this boat. It's barely sailable. Looks like it would pitchpole horrifically if you ever got to speed. 13 knots is nothing to write home about.
Still very much in Experimental state!
It ain't for you then.
They are fking awesome!!!!
@@TheMotosnake Where's your video showing this?
@@jaysparc I need to prove nothing to you, scrub.
@@TheMotosnake Go lube a chain protosnake.
Why do you have the foils set to minimum lift? Is it to do with the wind speed?
The following is the setting for a fresh breeze. I use minimum lift on the rudder to reduce the risk of nosediveing in displacement mode. If I use more lift at the main foils, I fly to high and get spin outs at the leeward foil.
Ah okay, that makes sense
@@berndbuck8332 from my actual experience it may help to put the rudder angle about 0.3-1.0 degree to more lift at the rudder. This reduces the lift of the main foils and at my boat dramaticaly the stalls/spin offs. At the speed where the nose dives the lift of the rudder is not significant. It can be compensated by slower acceleration - let the boat more time when tighten the sheet - and sitting more to the back. It becomes really stable on the foils, the mainfoil setting is then much less important.
@@uwer.6810 Ok, I'm gonna check this out
On gusty, changing winds it‘s still a challenge. With real lift at the rudder foil it becomes worse again.
I have one complete for sale, never used, with 2 sails (9,5/7,5) and beach trailer, black pads and black foils.
Where are you located?
This should be a good starting platform for newbies to sailing.
I hope you are joking
@@fthagnryleh4951 subsets to this. buy one, use portions. from, paddle boat to laser-class to outboard to foil to sail-foil. one packaged price. am i funny.?
😂