Had been looking to buy a new guitar under £400, since start 2019. It had to be light and comfortable to hold and play. It had to sound sweet. It had to ring out and have a good sustain across the six strings (not like some which are either sweet at the top end and boxy and muffled at the bass end). You name a company and I have tried it. Oh they all go on about a solid spruce top this and solid mahogany back and sides that, as if that would necessarily make their guitar brilliant. Came across a second hand T66DCE with an all round laminate construction and gave it a try. Have to agree with "al capone" it sounds better than a $1000 guitar. My quest has ended. The T66DCE fulfills all my requirements. I paid 135 quid (that's £s) and feel sure I have purchased a better guitar than one costing many times more. Well done to Michel Lag and the LAG company for producing such an exquisite instrument. And the one I bought is their bottom end one!!! Wonder what their higher ones are like??!!! Just proves that while materials are important in any engineering construction, the actual Equations of physics (here acoustics) are probably the greater determinant in the quality of the final product. My one quibble would be that why do they stop short of gloss on their head stocks given an otherwise totally gloss finished guitar.
@paghob, in an assembly line process, even putting in the step of applying gloss to the headstock is a step that takes time. It depends on the tools and machinery in the process to keep it steady and fast. Some other brands doing factory tool videos which show many of the steps in the overall process.
@MJ Podolig, it depends on what I am playing/singing. I would tend to use the cedar and RW for more fingerstyle playing as cedar can get muddy if you strum hard. I would play spruce and RW if I need more projection especially for strumming. Spruce is a better wood for its ability to do so with that type of playing style. I’m not saying that I haven’t or wouldn’t use spruce and RW for fingerstyle playing. I only had that combination for 25 years. However, today I would use a cedar top or mahogany top for that purpose, depending on the song. I also almost always sing and play at the same time, so the combination of the guitar tone with my voice influences which guitar and wood combination I use for a given sing. In some small solo gigs in restaurants, I often bring along 5 or 6 guitars and switch them depending on the song. For larger concerts in a band, I only bring along 2 guitars with the 2nd as a backup. In a band of up to 8-10 musicians and vocalists, the acoustic guitar is only contributing to 10% of the overall sound, so the sound characteristics of specific tonewoods don’t come out in the mix. That’s why I prefer playing spruce and maple in a band. Maple can sound different depending in the playing style, do it works well for me in a band configuration with a variety of songs and genres.
Great video! I have the; Lag TL66D I love this Guitar! Its the loudest Dreadnought I've ever heard! Volume wise, I blow everybody away at Acoustic Jams! Did you say the Spruce top is not solid? Can't believe it? It sounds and plays as good as any I've ever owned and I've owned them all in the past 60 years. Thanks.
T66D is not solid top. When I did the videos in 2012, the solid top only started with the T200 models. This may have changed since with other models introduced in the range. I asked the question to Lag founder Michel Lag at one of their open house days at a music store in Paris about how they achieved such a great sound without solid wood materials. His answer was how they do the build.
Do you have ANY information on the T70DCE or T80DCE? Naturally the best presentation video I can find on TH-cam, skips over the two models I just acquired...thanks
@Jim, I also mentioned in a reply to a different that Lag has discontinued various models and introduced new ones since this video that I made back in 2012. It always surprises me why guitar manufacturers themselves don’t make at least the basic informational overviews of their current model line-up. Some other brands are starting to do that now 8 years later.
Hi Jeff Thanks again for your quick reply. Maybe the low end of the range of serie at that time was different because my T111 has a studio lag pre amp and not a direct lag one. How can I check if the top of my T111 is solid or not?
In my quick look up of information, it does not seem like the T111 has a solid top. A laminate top would be a typical for the low end of the range of series.
It seems to me having watched the video, IF your plugging in the guitar, you may as well buy the cheaper model. The t66dce. The whole range seems to be much of a muchness regarding the electronics and therefore tonal range. And if your gigging I guess the plastic trim is more knock resistant than wood trim. BTW I own and gig the t66dce its a great guitar. One of the best in its price range. I have had many comments on how good my guitar sounds.
It took some digging to find information. It seems that back in 2008, the first 3 models were T111, T222, T333 Then those models went out of stock when LAG got recognized in the US by the models T100, T200, T300, followed by T400, T66, and T77. Then they launched the T40, T80, T90 models with can be found today.It seems that the T111 was the lower end model at the time. The T100 has a solid top which put it more in the middle of the range for their guitars whereas the T60, T70, T40 models are more in the lower range.To do this video, and each of the Lag guitar product reviews, I had to look up info on 2 websites and on 1-2 catalogs to double-check all the information since it took time to figure out the real difference between so many models in a price range of 150 at low end and 600 at the top end. Looking up more info on the T111 and earlier models already seems challenging to get search hits.
Thanks. Please, where is older model LAG T100. (I mean build quality or class) I have option T100 or new model T70. Is it lower model (lower quality) or cca the same. I m mistaken. T70, T270, T170, T300 .. :-( I m stupid. Is biggest number - best model ?
Lag has continued to add more model numbers into their product line over the years. I haven’t seen some of the newer ones as that depends on the availability at a local store. And now during the covid19, music stores over here in France are closed at a national level, so no chances to test any guitars at all.
Lonnie Sayler, the title of this video is an "Overview" of the entire series, not individual guitar demos or reviews. The reviews are in the 2 Following dedicated playlists : LAG Guitar Reviews - English th-cam.com/play/PLdABKB0CMCgYuUnnPr2TQVPrlROtdua77.html Tests / Avis Guitares LAG (en français) th-cam.com/play/PLdABKB0CMCgYKcCA8hTNUHUVma3oBp29w.html
hi jef i have a lag acoustic that an oddball the cross has an M in the middle anghas gold tuners with black pegs i was wondering if you can help me ID This
Hi Johann, I haven't specifically seen any models with special insignia, but it is not necessarily impossible. Gold tuners with black tuning pegs sound like a special model. There aren't any model numbers Inside the guitar. Maybe it is one of the older series models.
I bought a tramontane guitar that uses 2 batteries CR2032 3V, I want to know if I can use 2 batteries LIR2032 of 3.6 V that are rechargeable, I can use LIR2032 or not?
Both T80 and the T44 came out after I made this video. And the T77 was discontinued (or generally out of stock) and came back on the market since. I was at a LAG Day in Paris in Dec 2014 where Michel Lag announced that they had discontinued one of the series numbers (either the 100, 200 or 300, I can't remember the exact series number) because it is redundant concerning too many overlapping features with the series surrounding it.
Heng Junwen I just looked at the specs of the T80 at web sites of 3 different official Lag resellers, and the 3 contradict each other and even themselves. If the T80 is satin finish top, neck, back/sides, then Lag simply made a cross between the models by taking the T66 woods and chaning to satin matte finish instead of all gloss.
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In linguistics, these are called filler words, and they are very prevalent in unscripted, spontaneous speech. Some people get caught up with filler words in natural speech. It's a common occurrence in all databases of such types of unscripted natural utterances. I develop speech technologies, so I know this from what the speech data files provide from 1000s of participants.
@Tony, this overview video was specifically made to provide a quick overview of all the differences which can be confusing. Separate guitar review videos were made for each guitar, starting by playing each one for a minute or so in 2 different musical segments. All of them are in the Lag playlist on this channel.
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Had been looking to buy a new guitar under £400, since start 2019. It had to be light and comfortable to hold and play. It had to sound sweet. It had to ring out and have a good sustain across the six strings (not like some which are either sweet at the top end and boxy and muffled at the bass end). You name a company and I have tried it. Oh they all go on about a solid spruce top this and solid mahogany back and sides that, as if that would necessarily make their guitar brilliant.
Came across a second hand T66DCE with an all round laminate construction and gave it a try. Have to agree with "al capone" it sounds better than a $1000 guitar. My quest has ended. The T66DCE fulfills all my requirements. I paid 135 quid (that's £s) and feel sure I have purchased a better guitar than one costing many times more. Well done to Michel Lag and the LAG company for producing such an exquisite instrument. And the one I bought is their bottom end one!!! Wonder what their higher ones are like??!!! Just proves that while materials are important in any engineering construction, the actual Equations of physics (here acoustics) are probably the greater determinant in the quality of the final product.
My one quibble would be that why do they stop short of gloss on their head stocks given an otherwise totally gloss finished guitar.
@paghob, in an assembly line process, even putting in the step of applying gloss to the headstock is a step that takes time. It depends on the tools and machinery in the process to keep it steady and fast. Some other brands doing factory tool videos which show many of the steps in the overall process.
Great video, very informative
Can you tell me what the difference between the Tramontane T118ACE-BLK and the T118ASCE-BLK are
Thanks
Extremely cool sweter.
I bought the t66dce,. Its sounds like a 1000 dollar guitar,. Thanks again for the info
A real helpful video with a very good explanation. Thanks!
Glad it helped.
For you personally, which do you prefer? Solid cedar with rosewood back/sides or Solid spruce with rosewood back/sides. And why?
@MJ Podolig, it depends on what I am playing/singing. I would tend to use the cedar and RW for more fingerstyle playing as cedar can get muddy if you strum hard. I would play spruce and RW if I need more projection especially for strumming. Spruce is a better wood for its ability to do so with that type of playing style. I’m not saying that I haven’t or wouldn’t use spruce and RW for fingerstyle playing. I only had that combination for 25 years. However, today I would use a cedar top or mahogany top for that purpose, depending on the song. I also almost always sing and play at the same time, so the combination of the guitar tone with my voice influences which guitar and wood combination I use for a given sing. In some small solo gigs in restaurants, I often bring along 5 or 6 guitars and switch them depending on the song. For larger concerts in a band, I only bring along 2 guitars with the 2nd as a backup. In a band of up to 8-10 musicians and vocalists, the acoustic guitar is only contributing to 10% of the overall sound, so the sound characteristics of specific tonewoods don’t come out in the mix. That’s why I prefer playing spruce and maple in a band. Maple can sound different depending in the playing style, do it works well for me in a band configuration with a variety of songs and genres.
Brilliant! Thanks man! Helped narrow down selection.
@Gary, exactly the purpose of this video. Glad it helped.
Wow you are a great connaisseur
Great video! I have the; Lag TL66D I love this Guitar! Its the loudest Dreadnought I've ever heard! Volume wise, I blow everybody away at Acoustic Jams! Did you say the Spruce top is not solid? Can't believe it? It sounds and plays as good as any I've ever owned and I've owned them all in the past 60 years. Thanks.
T66D is not solid top. When I did the videos in 2012, the solid top only started with the T200 models. This may have changed since with other models introduced in the range. I asked the question to Lag founder Michel Lag at one of their open house days at a music store in Paris about how they achieved such a great sound without solid wood materials. His answer was how they do the build.
Do you have ANY information on the T70DCE or T80DCE? Naturally the best presentation video I can find on TH-cam, skips over the two models I just acquired...thanks
@Jim, I haven’t played those models. Much depends on whether a local dealer has them in stock or not.
@Jim, I also mentioned in a reply to a different that Lag has discontinued various models and introduced new ones since this video that I made back in 2012. It always surprises me why guitar manufacturers themselves don’t make at least the basic informational overviews of their current model line-up. Some other brands are starting to do that now 8 years later.
Hi Jeff
Thanks again for your quick reply.
Maybe the low end of the range of serie at that time was different because my T111 has a studio lag pre amp and not a direct lag one.
How can I check if the top of my T111 is solid or not?
I’m pretty sure T111 doesn’t have a solid top.
Hi Vitor, off the top of my head, none of the 100 series Lags were solid top.
Hi Jeff
Thanks a lot for the detailed information.
Do you think T111gets a solid top as the T100?
In my quick look up of information, it does not seem like the T111 has a solid top. A laminate top would be a typical for the low end of the range of series.
It seems to me having watched the video, IF your plugging in the guitar, you may as well buy the cheaper model. The t66dce. The whole range seems to be much of a muchness regarding the electronics and therefore tonal range. And if your gigging I guess the plastic trim is more knock resistant than wood trim. BTW I own and gig the t66dce its a great guitar. One of the best in its price range. I have had many comments on how good my guitar sounds.
I agree
Exactly what I was looking for, thanks!
Hi
I have a T111DCE. What is the differences when compared with a T100DCE?
It took some digging to find information.
It seems that back in 2008, the first 3 models were T111, T222, T333
Then those models went out of stock when LAG got recognized in the US by the models T100, T200, T300, followed by T400, T66, and T77.
Then they launched the T40, T80, T90 models with can be found today.It seems that the T111 was the lower end model at the time.
The T100 has a solid top which put it more in the middle of the range for their guitars whereas the T60, T70, T40 models are more in the lower range.To do this video, and each of the Lag guitar product reviews, I had to look up info on 2 websites and on 1-2 catalogs to double-check all the information since it took time to figure out the real difference between so many models in a price range of 150 at low end and 600 at the top end.
Looking up more info on the T111 and earlier models already seems challenging to get search hits.
Thanks. Please, where is older model LAG T100. (I mean build quality or class) I have option T100 or new model T70. Is it lower model (lower quality) or cca the same. I m mistaken. T70, T270, T170, T300 .. :-( I m stupid. Is biggest number - best model ?
Lag has continued to add more model numbers into their product line over the years. I haven’t seen some of the newer ones as that depends on the availability at a local store. And now during the covid19, music stores over here in France are closed at a national level, so no chances to test any guitars at all.
Thanks for the info
How about a demonstration ? Do you know how to play the guitar, or do you just try to sell them ?
Lonnie Sayler, the title of this video is an "Overview" of the entire series, not individual guitar demos or reviews. The reviews are in the 2 Following dedicated playlists :
LAG Guitar Reviews - English
th-cam.com/play/PLdABKB0CMCgYuUnnPr2TQVPrlROtdua77.html
Tests / Avis Guitares LAG (en français)
th-cam.com/play/PLdABKB0CMCgYKcCA8hTNUHUVma3oBp29w.html
What is the difference between the solid cedar with rosewood back and sides and solid spruce with rosewood back and sides as well?
Answered this in your other question.
hi jef i have a lag acoustic that an oddball the cross has an M in the middle anghas gold tuners with black pegs i was wondering if you can help me ID This
Hi Johann, I haven't specifically seen any models with special insignia, but it is not necessarily impossible. Gold tuners with black tuning pegs sound like a special model. There aren't any model numbers Inside the guitar. Maybe it is one of the older series models.
I bought a tramontane guitar that uses 2 batteries CR2032 3V, I want to know if I can use 2 batteries LIR2032 of 3.6 V that are rechargeable, I can use LIR2032 or not?
@Daniel, for that question, you should contact Lag support.
Where's T80?
Both T80 and the T44 came out after I made this video. And the T77 was discontinued (or generally out of stock) and came back on the market since. I was at a LAG Day in Paris in Dec 2014 where Michel Lag announced that they had discontinued one of the series numbers (either the 100, 200 or 300, I can't remember the exact series number) because it is redundant concerning too many overlapping features with the series surrounding it.
jeffallenfrance I see. I'm so glad I own a LAG as well. The 80 and the 200. :) Enjoyed your video! Learnt something new about LAG.
Heng Junwen I just looked at the specs of the T80 at web sites of 3 different official Lag resellers, and the 3 contradict each other and even themselves. If the T80 is satin finish top, neck, back/sides, then Lag simply made a cross between the models by taking the T66 woods and chaning to satin matte finish instead of all gloss.
jeffallenfrance Should be gloss finish. :) Solid spruce top and mahogany back and sides, laminated.
ah, it might be the same at the T66 except for solid top. I'll try to find one in some shop in Paris area to look at it.
But they are nowhere to be found in toronto
The lack of Lag models in Toronto may be due to distribution. I have heard over the years that Canadians need to get them from stores in the US.
ok?
Some people get caught up with filler words in natural speech. It's a common occurrence in all databases of such types of unscripted natural utterances.
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In linguistics, these are called filler words, and they are very prevalent in unscripted, spontaneous speech.
Some people get caught up with filler words in natural speech. It's a common occurrence in all databases of such types of unscripted natural utterances.
I develop speech technologies, so I know this from what the speech data files provide from 1000s of participants.
The v much
Too much talk. Play the damn thing!!
@Tony, this overview video was specifically made to provide a quick overview of all the differences which can be confusing. Separate guitar review videos were made for each guitar, starting by playing each one for a minute or so in 2 different musical segments. All of them are in the Lag playlist on this channel.