Leatherman Mr. Crunch
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- Today we will be looking at the first release from the Leatherman Garage. The Mr. Crunch was one of Tim Leatherman's early prototypes for a plier based multi tool. The idea is to have a plier head that can transform between a long reach needle nose plier to a set of regular pliers. As one might imagine, this was a unique design and also a very expensive design to manufacture. So for the first release from the Garage, Leatherman brought Tim Leatherman's design off the drawing board and into reality. We'll dive into this design as well as some of the new tooling integrated into the frame choice for this multi tool.
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I was able to acquire the Mr. Crunch from a viewer who wished to stay anonymous. To my great surprise he included a couple of extra gifts along with the Mr. Crunch that we will be looking at in future videos. Thank you sir, I was ecstatic to add this limited release multi tool to my collection and to be able to share it with my viewers.
Awesome! I’ve been waiting for you to get your hands on this tool!
I hope Leatherman does the right thing with this new design the potential is crazy.
@@zeewizard7198 it would have more potential if they didn't use the godawful Free series as a base. The implements on the Free are barely a step-up from the Wingman; gimmicky undersized crap on an overbuilt overpriced chassis.
Think of all the different type of pliers in different fields of work that this can be implemented to. Plumbers, electricians, construction workers, Carpenters. My imagination is going crazy over what they can do with this new plierhead.
What is your opinion of LM refined the tolerances and made some design changes? What about abandoning the FREE series drivers and replace them with a bit driver?
I'm glad you got your hands on one you do the best reviews
Thank you, I appreciate that.
I had the same idea with the bit exchanger in place of the two dedicated bits. I've also thought about making new tools for the bit exchanger other than just fastener bits such as chisels, a scalpel holder, etc.
Very cool design! I hope they make more of them!
Thank you for your insight in to this tool! Love your videos! I appreciate how you looked at this tool and gave us your opinion of what the garage was trying to do, paying homage to Learherman’s past/heritage, their present line up and a glimpse in to future design changes. I wish Leatherman would have provided better insight/explanation when they released it. I’ve felt for quite some time now that Leatherman could do a better job explaining their thought process behind what they’re doing. Thank you for taking the time to make this video.
I just had to come back and say how much I continue to appreciate your videos. Thank you
I am glad someone gifted you one. It makes a difference versus the video you did when you couldn't get one.
It is a very interesting multitool. Thank you for showing all the little details about the different mechanisms and features. Very good review, sir!
Thank you very much!
This thing is a gorgeous piece of industrial art. It may be intended for people like me who’d likely keep on the desk to look at, play with and generally admire. I think it’s ok to try out unusual designs that may stretch into areas of aesthetics over practicality. Of course I have a Wave Leatherman for the practical stuff, but as I get older I’m finding myself simply enjoying the form of some of these things.
It was made to be used not to look at by people who work in offices
@@MikeHunt-gy4pt actually, it was made to be sold. To whom ever could get their hands on it and pay the asking price. The basis for my statement was how few they made and their asking price. It didn't seem like they were looking to provide workers with a tool, but capturing a part of the collector market.
Great review Ben, I’ve got the P4 and I love it, I just love different engineering concept’s which is why I like this baby. I hope it’s going into general production!!!
This was the best review of this tool. Thanks
This is another work of art from Leatherman
Hello, Ben - enjoyed the video - I think the "garage" concept was designed to create prototypes of tools and multitools...I think that the LTG R&D have reached their nader in terms of tool development and have realized that their customer - base and the knife - multitool community in general are an enthusiastic and knowledgeable bunch and have thus decided to develop this program to create "buzz" and to mine fresh ideas for said new tool development...hopefully, this "collaboration" will last a long time and result in better, more useful and more robust tools made at reasonably competitive prices...it would be ironic that the same customer - base that helped with new innovative ideas for multitools would have to pay $200 or more for future products as a result this new initiative...
I agree with everything you said.
To be honest, they are geared more towards the "collector market". They are rare, unique, one off designs. They are serialized, each with it's own stamped number. Come with collector's packaging. Oh.. and the fact the production is very limited - to small batches. These are not going to be carried by many people. It's purely for the collectors out there. Especially at a $200-250 price point.. all they up to $800-1,100 on the secondary market. Leatherman is jumping in on the "Sprint Run" or "Limited Edition" bandwagon. Good luck finding one for the $200-250 MSRP. I'm not convinced about these, yet. And there are already 3 releases. Leatherman would be *Way Better Off* releasing the whole "Leatherman Garage" as a "Upgraded Premium Line" .. with unique designs (like these all have) *and* better upgraded materials.. the fact that this whole "Leatherman Garage" is geared towards collectors & extra limited releases is a bad move. Releasing all these different designs that will get hardly any belt time.
I really liked that you explained the way it works!
Thank you, I appreciate you taking the time to watch.
Fantastic review! Glad to see you were able to get your hands on one!
Thank you.
Great video . Thanks
I have a Surge and a Wave+. The only thing I would add to either of them would be a spring for the jaws!!! Leatherman needs a build your own tool feature. Pick a frame, tools, and bits. Also, they need to bring back the EL strippers!!! For $30each, I would buy 5 right now!!! Keep up the great vids!!!
I get your idea but how would it work when packaging means most components will only fit in one position on the tool?
@@steventhomas5865 I am not an engineer, but you could have the various tools in a number system. Each spot on the frame would accept certain numbers. Also, they could also modify some of the tools to fit multiple spots.
@@steventhomas5865 Sorry, I think I misunderstood the question. The packaging could be a box or generic plastic shell with zip ties, if nothing else.
@Steven Allen LOL!!! I am 6'2, 250 lbs. I am almost there!!!
1968, US Army @ Fort Campbell. My father was visiting on R and R and helping a childhood friend whom was a motor pool sergeant drag tubings through the tight-fitting 1963 Grand Prix firewall and transmission housing area. They couldnt find a tool that had a long angled neck which is a longer on one end and other short. So My dad picked up a random channel lock no one would miss, hacked it with his friend, rewelded them, the pivot area had a screw on so it is a hybrid vise grip. it worked well. then later they added 2x 3" inch extension. one had sharp pike blunt on other on it for poking and centering tubing through firewall. They called it snaggletooth B*stard because it was so ugly but it worked. sometimes you gotta make your own dang tool.
My favourite part of this tool is how the needle pliers open parallel and not a V
What a cool Leatherman u got there! I have the P2 and I love it..able to engage the tools one handed. Too bad this Mr Crunch is unavailable to other countries outside of US.
the finish and the look and also the "clicking" into place reminds me ov the victorianox spirit x
Love it!
It looks great. I wish it also included the bit adapter for the bit kit instead of the eyeglass screwdriver.
This is a good concept. The duckbill style nose is not as practical as the needle nose but the conversion design makes up for that.
Awesome review!
Glad ya found one.you deserve it👍
I was very fortunate!
I wish Leatherman still made this tool. I'd buy it right now.
Amazing review like always Ben! 🤌🏻
Thank you sir.
Congrats on getting one. Received mine on Monday...love playing with those pliers. Agree with all your points.
In case you're interested, there is an article from Outside where the author says he talked to Leatherman and they plan on doing 2-3 garage releases per year with 500 units each.
Is there any chance you have a link to that article?
Or Google "leatherman garage outside" like 5th result down. In case the link doesn't show up
Will do, thanks!
The EBAY scalpers will love this.
Loving this kind of special product, thank for sharing. Traveling gets easier, so might be over to your side of the world shortly to buy one.
Which is totally unimportant compared to wats going on here in Europe.
Congratulations you got one ! I was always curious about the original multitool design by Tim Leatherman before he reduced it to PST for whatever reason he had back then. I knew they had the prototype displayed on some place in their factory or shop , but it is another thing to put the idea on the market.Leatherman's travel back to the past has met the ultimate beginning, now could we see them move forward to the future again?
The future is sprint runs, limited editions, eBay scalpers and unaffordable tools.
@@nunyafuckinbizniz yikes, I'm afraid you're right.
if you think 200 dollars is expensive for a leatherman try to buy them here in spain, a regular wave with all the extra bits sells for about 180 euros, when go up in the scale the prices increase as well (surge etc).
Something like that here would cost easy 300+
Yup the UK is as bad
I have seen other TH-camrs start showing this tool, but they did not seem to describe the jaw mechanism with any clarity and I stopped watching them, waiting for you to get one to show. You have the best way of describing things that I have seen. I agree about the inner, regular plier heads awkwardness and think they goofed with having the replaceable wire cutter plates so close to the nut grabbing portion of the plier head. It limits how large of a nut could fit in the head. But, I understand that they wanted to utilize existing replacement cutters that are available. I like the idea of the tool, but I don’t think I will get one. With its name, I was initially assuming it was a reimagined version of the Crunch, and hoped it would be an update of the locking pliers/Vice grip. But obviously not.
This new plier head will revolutionize the game of multi-tools. There are so many different pliers heads you can add to it. I like where they're going with this.
Dare say it's a "GAME CHANGER!!!!?!!?"........😑
Awesome job Ben! My concern with the microdriver in its location is it also doesn't have any magnetic retention..but I wonder if it would as part of an inner tool..
I would have expected a more commonly used tool to take up an outside slot. I can’t see using a micro screwdriver very frequently.
@@darkaegis1 Just my personal experience but I use my micro driver ALL the time. And not for glasses, but to get into small holes and crevices. It's become one of the most useful tools.
I get that, it definitely has less retention because it’s on the outbound side. I think they did it purposely though.
@@txtoolcrib hard to say. I think the tool was an awesome tribute to Tim Leatherman
My personal opinion is that Leatherman should not have included the window on the handle for thumb opening of the micro driver and then it would've been natural to access it by rolling it along with the others with your thumb.
Love the micro driver with the wave use it all the time for doing thermostats wiring. Would be nice if it stayed in there though it'll fall out if you're not careful and paying attention
I can appreciate the design but personally after lots of warranty claims on the leathermans I own, I put my trust in my 20 year old victorinox swiss tool that is still in great shape and doesnt rust as soon as there is moisture in the air. cool review, I ended up buying some knipex pliers based on your reviews thanks for sharing.
I would like to add a point from my personal experience - though the micro-driver isn't a 'sharp tool', I can confirm that it is entirely possible for an micro flathead to pierce skin and (in the case of a finger) go in one side and out the other. and I can also confirm it sucks, I don't recommend it.
yup
i couldn't disagree more that it should be a loose tool.. that thing should be held down tight.
Imagine having to dig that thing out of your thigh and it lets go of the tool.. you would have to get it out of your leg from the opening of your pocket if that is where you carry it..
What do you know, I was looking at your videos and saw a fresh new upload. lucky!!! lol.
Same
Well I appreciate you checking back in with me, means a lot, thank you.
I feel like a lot of people miss the mark as to what the fold out plier heads actually are. They're not needle nose, they're parallel jaw pliers. Parallel jaw pliers don't have teeth on them because they're meant to positively grab the sides of nuts or hex head bolds withough marring them. Its an uncommon tool, and the way that they implemented them into a multi tool is fascinating. I wish someone would get some nuts or hex head bolts to show how they work, because its a great tool for keeping the finish on those kinds of fasteners.
No, I am afraid you have been misinformed. They are not parallel, in fact they are not even close.
Nice I was hoping you were gonna be able to get your hands on the MR. CRUNCH!!!!!!
My left ear really enjoyed this video.
Going deaf in your right ear are ya?
While these dual plier heads are interesting engineering it just solidifies the thought to me that the Spirit plier head design is the right choice. I tried 7 LM tools before I got a Spirit XC. Search stopped after that. But I keep poking my head in to see what’s new in the world of multitools. Spirit in conjunction with LM bit sleeve and ratchet via a minor mod is perfection.
Wait till this shows up at antique road shows lol!
Great to see you obtained a Mr. Crunch. Your reviews are as close to hands on as a viewer can get without actually purchasing one. With this particular tool your review may be as close as most of us will ever get. Looks like a great fidget tool to me but It does not appeal to me as a edc carry option. I require less fidget and more simple access for daily convenience.
Thank you. I was very happy to acquire this one to share it with everyone. I wish they would have made more than 500. There are a lot of people that would have loved to get their hands on this one.
@13:40 The mini-screwdriver, even when partially exposed, is very sharp and can stab into a palm or finger.
The “Free” series of tool are anything but Free!
the pry bar is my most used tool on the P2, its great to have a tool i can really beat on when prying, that chisel attachment would just bend on the hollow part and break, i dont want to be prying with a bit holder and i definitely dont with my blade so it would be a loss for me also the Philips works great and when i want the tools fast, hence why i bought the one handed opening line, i dont want to have to swap bits every time i swap from flat to Philips.
3D phillips like in the Bond, Rebar and Supertool are MUCH better than the short 2D bit driver.
The 2D driver is short, and the «handle» is too thick to fit anywhere (as an electrician).
With the 3D phillips, you can also use the bit adapter and use Leatherman bits or regular bits.
Thank You for this video:)
My one and only favourite and perfect MT of this size is Victorinox Spirit MX clip. But after viewing your video, I definitely look forward to market version of Mr Crunchman with this improvements:
- More usable and robust pliers of Mr Crunchman
- Bit holders to replace i) philips with bottle ii) flat head with package opener (as you suggested)
- longer ruler on the handle
- longer file with i) diamond ii) coarse iii) metal saw
- wave's combo i) can / bottle opener ii) wire stripper to replace current only can opener tool
Hope Leatherman is listening and this can be a reality
Leatherman doesn't listen anymore.
@@nunyafuckinbizniz that why i bought victorinox mx clip over Leatherman; Victorinox listens, add one hand opening and clip to already excellent swisstool spirit
@@limsan9977 it did take them like 20 years to get the oho and clip, but I understand.
@@nunyafuckinbizniz You are right, Victorinox are slow to listen. I chose Spirit over Wave because:
- all tools can access with out opening plier
- high rust resistance
- more compact
- more tool
Wow Ben you must feel very lucky to own that 😉 I wonder if they might do a full production of them I suppose it just needs a bit more refinement I suppose I'll have to wait and see nice review 😁
Leatherman is only for the lucky ones, reviewers and eBay scalpers now, welcome to the wonderful world of sprint runs.
I'd love it if Leatherman made a multitool with no knife. I'd also love one that was modular, so you could ad whatever 6-10 tools to the pliers you wanted to.
Glad you were able to get one hopefully you didn’t have to sell the farm to get it. Lol. The day will come when you can buy just the frame and have click lock on any tool you want to add or remove. Truly customizable . Till then. 🙂
ИСКЛЮЧИТЕЛЬНО ЛЮБОПЫТНЫЙ КОНЦЕПТ ! СПАСИБО ЗА ВИДЕОРОЛИК !
GO LEATHERMAN SURGE!
I like the plier head and the magnets but that’s where it ends. The “tools” on this thing are off of the kid’s toys known as the Sidekick, Wingman, Bolster, and Rev. At that price point I would expect tools like one might find on a Surge or Super Tool. Not the 2 dimensional stuff from the lower end multitools that slips out of screws or the “awl” that has a non-functional micro flat driver for a tip. They need to take this thing back to the drawing board
Is it the same tools from the wingman put onto the free or is it a different design but same concept? What are the differences in thickness of each tool? Thanks in advance.
I like Leatherman designs, but their quality control department should lower tolerances by 95 %.
Been away from the channel for a while. Saw the tumbnail and immediately recognised the original leatherman prototype style head and got super excited........right up until "built on a p4 frame" 😐
Also "Mr crunch"?
Damn leatherman what have we got to do get an updated crunch tool with outside blades
The pry tool/depth gauge also has a wire stripper notch at the base
Yes, you’re correct. The bottle cap lifter I missed as well.
I’m legit kinda salty I can’t get one of these for a reasonable price. 10x over retail is just insane, hope they make more
I like this design but I would make a couple of tweaks to this:
1. Replace the neednose with the screw extraction plier head from the Engineer PZ-59 Pliers
2. Fix the twisting of the plier head while applying torsional force
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Interesting that at the end of the action the jaws almost close parallel like jeweler's pliers.
Couldn't get one as leatherman wouldn't sell it to canada, such a sad day for me
This is the way
That chisel finger slot could be expanded to hold a 1/4" driver bit it looks like.
I'm not crazy about the transforming pliers head.
What I do really like is the inclusion of a chisel, but they ground it in the wrong way. They need to flip it around in order for it to border on functional.
The micro driver bit holder appears to be MIM'ed (Metal Injection Molded) and I would bet there is no post sintering machining done on it at all. The one side notch for the bit would be easier to implement in the molding for the MIM process.
That makes sense. Good observation. I was thinking laser cut with a single milled pass and ceramic beaded. You’re probably right though.
They missed an opportunity with the shape of the pliers would lend itself to having a pipe reamer function.
Ben, you are one of my favorite follows because of the variety and depth of your videos. I have a P4 and really hope your suspicions are accurate as the P4 would benefit greatly from those two changes.
Thank you for such consistently good content!
I just have a feeling the FREE series could be heading that way. Though it wouldn’t directly benefit me, it would be a huge improvement on the FREE series. Improve the tool set and I might be tempted to use this tool away from work.
@@txtoolcrib while I have you, I’m curious how many knots do you use in a typical week? I wish I had the ability to have a wide variety of knots committed to memory. Any tips you would give to improve the situational recognition of what the appropriate knot is and how to tie from memory?
Working rope is kind of an acquired knowledge. I see a lot of people that struggle when it comes to tying knots. I look at it like this. Some people are terrible at learning a new language, I include myself in that group, while others struggle with math. Sometimes you either have a knack for it or you don’t. The best way to commit the most common and useful knots to memory is through repetition. A simple practice jig for tying knots can be advantageous for those wanting to learn different knots and their uses. You’ll be surprised how muscle memory will eventually take over.
I consistently tie about 50 different knots dozens of times a year. Though I don’t tie them all on a weekly basis, I use them enough in a given year that they have become second nature to me. I can tie most of them blindfolded, but that comes from decades of practice.
Repetition is the key though. I plan on putting out a five part video of my most used knots soon. While their are literally thousands of knots, those 50 will cover just about anything a normal person will ever encounter.
@@txtoolcrib Thank you for such a detailed answer and thanks in advance for that series - I will use that at my starting point to repetition and building my knot muscle memory!
So, if you open the pliers all the way to grab something, the flat pliers will "unlock" from the blunt pliers... cause if you can unfold by hands the flat pliers back into the body of the tool when the pliers are all the way opened it means if you apply pressure while grabbing something... the flat pliers will unlock by them selves...
I bet the amount of pressure those little jaws produce is crazy.
Good video. Innovative design and it pushes the envelope to an extent… but it also seems a bit gimmicky and like a warranty nightmare for Leatherman. I have not found anything to replace my Surge and Victorinox pocket knife.
Why is the Mr crunch so hard to find?? Did they only make a few of them or what? I have been looking for one but can't seem to find it on any of the famous website.,.
Let the gouging begin! With the limited release you can only find this on eBay now selling for $700 to $1200.
Molto interessante!
What I don't get is that not one review I have seen in this, and I saw it the very 1st time I saw the jaws open & close. The needle nose jaws open Parallel! Genius! Very similar to the knipex ADP. In theory it would hold on to flat stock, nuts, bolts, etc with square bite, yet mostly non-maring. The jaws are a parallelogram. GENIUS!
No they don’t. They are only parallel at about 1/8” open. I actually saw an article that claimed that very thing. It’s a little disconcerting that they either don’t know or just flat out lied. Trust me, you will not be grabbing hex nuts parallel with these jaws.
@@txtoolcrib then what can you grab with them? This doesn't make sense. Not including $200
I loved this design. Googled it. And they’re reselling for $1500. Never mind. 😂
The extended jaws form a set of parallel jaw pliers (or very close to that). In theory this design and the smooth jaws should make them better turning nuts without chewing them up as quickly.
No they don’t. They are parallel at about 1/8” open. Beyond that they have a single point of contact only.
@@txtoolcrib The geometry is not exactly right but the kinematic motion of the jaw extensions seems akin to parallel pliers from the videos I have seen. Compare the kinematic arrangement of the two tools. Parallel jaw pliers and Mr Crunch jaw extensions both utilize a pivot axle and sliding pivot for each jaw. Mr Crunch the pivot axle is at the handle folding joint and the sliding pivot is the line contact between the end of the snubby jaws and the jaw extension. A true pair of parallel jaw pliers these pivots are reversed, the true pivot is close to the nose and the sliding pivot behind the main pivot. A true pair of parallels jaw pliers those two pivots are also co-planer. In Mr Crunch they are not with the sliding pivot of the jaws being closer to the media plane (closing plane of the jaws) than the handle pivots.
I have no hands on but it seemed they moved roughly parallel from the close position to a modest amount of opening.
Reference drawing: media.cheggcdn.com/study/ef9/ef92d94b-c46e-42a1-a9bd-4405235719cd/image.png
It would be pretty close in that drawing. Here is where you run into trouble though. The point of contact between the two pliers is roughly twice the distance from the fulcrum to the pivot point of the outer pliers.
The 420hc is wild at this price
My main complaint with most multi tools is the handles are not locked In sync with each other. That’s why I’ve only ever carried SOG multitools
What does that even mean
Leatherman needs to just make blunt nose pliers like gerber. The only time the free series is good is after you mod it and put interchangeable bit adapter
Why you don’t like the free series? If I may ask
You have a the same cadence in your speech as Patrick Bet-David
Very cool looking, but what is the point of pliers like that?
Wow, tortuous explanation of everything.
I would like to get one
I think you missed the best part of the plier, from what I could see these are parallel pliers
I'll get one when they go on sale for $100.
Garage #2 tool coming. Are you getting it?
Oh dear, i read Leatherman Garbage instead of Leatherman Garage first... Was abit confused. 🤣
If I understand what I’ve viewed and read, the “Garage” limited release designs get released in a limited run and then the design is sent over to production… then if things go “well” with the limited release, then there’s a chance the design will go into production, so it will be produced and available. I just don’t know what criteria Leatherman is using to determine if a limited run earns or deserves to be mass produced. Sales? Demand? If so, those Mr. Crunch tools were gone in minutes. So, if “sales” is the criteria used… they should, in theory, make more so we can all have one. Of course, it remains to be seen and all of this could be totally wrong.
I wish they would be more forthright with their process.
The plier head seems fragile and overly complicated. Looks cool, like a transformer.
I was trying to get one of those and the seller wanted $500 US for it that's almost a thousand Canadian before shipping and import fees
Wow. The tool implies a finer touch so what you might call a negative might be something We were actually looking for. However do "they" offer a custom model with an engravable space? Say if We wanted to engrave #Sticker13 on the item for personal significance; how would that work??? 🖤🖤🖤.
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The only thing i like is the numbers are like a vin on car... maybe if this was a surge on p4 frame i might would buy it might
The spring was most likely done by EDM machining
Ive wondered for a few years now why Leatherman hasnt made a wider jaw( duck bill) design jaw tool. Why is this?
I think is gimmicky however Id love them to mass produce something similar but more thought out...
You said you wasn’t gonna get it !!
I said I wasn't going to pay the Ebay asking prices to get one. One of my viewers reached out and helped me to acquire one, and I am exceptionally grateful.
Glad u have one now, looking fwd to hear your thought in long term use also.
@@txtoolcrib I was looking on EBay and they’re going for upwards of 1400$ and that’s totally crazy to me. They had at least 10 on there when I looked. It’s a shame people buy these just to scalp them especially when they are made in such limited quantities. At least you were able to add it to your collection and actually appreciate it as Leatherman intended. I signed up for future garage releases and Hopefully I’ll be able to get one.
I wish they’d do something similar like Ford. When Ford released the new GT they had a plan to stop scalpers and and resellers, they made sure that whoever was lucky enough to buy one, had to sign a contract stating they couldn’t resell the car for “X” about of years or face litigation. They also only selected people they knew were going to actually drive the car vs having it sit in some rich man’s garage never seen for 20 years.
I know this is an apple to oranges comparison, but I hate knowing that those scalpers bought the tool and took it away from someone who would actually use it and enjoy it. I know I’m not spending that kind of money for it.
I think you make an excellent point! If Leatherman is truly interested in user feedback then they have to find a better way of getting these prototypes into the hands of true enthusiasts. They also have to find a way to curb the scalping. This falls exactly in line with my own thoughts and is a point I intended on addressing.