Cool design on the pliers. Like most leathermans I would definately make some swaps. A lot of the inner tools seem pointless. Much prefer a pair of scissors, and separate serrated blade replacing some of the redundant flat head/scraper tools. I preferred a pointed awl like the surge has as well.
@@theoutdoorsman9233 awl sorts of stuff. Lol. But really I don’t use it much either. Occasionally to untie knots or start a hole in wood. Sometimes it’s nice to have a strong “pick” so you’re not damaging the tip of your knife blade. That’s why I preferred the pointed end rather than the flat end, seems to take away the point (pun intended) of an awl.
Tim Leatherman’s dream tool. Needle nose jaws, I notice, open and close parallel to each other and as many people have pointed out, they have no teeth. I guess they are for polished surfaces like hex bolt/nuts or thin metal sheets.
Mad props to you for being so candid and honest on this limited edition tool. If Leatherman wants to show off by making a premium tool, they need to actually make a premium tool. It’s an interesting concept, for sure, but I don’t feel like I’m missing out by not getting one.
Thanks for the first look, I’m diggin the mechanism for the plier head. To your point of Leatherman not having outside people test products, hopefully the “Garage” idea will allow more feedback from outside users and help create some amazing products. Just worried that because it is a limited run, it will become more of a collectors market, where the tool won’t really get used meaning less feedback given - making the point of the garage meaningless in my mind. Excited for what’s to come tho.
Thanks for sharing this. Very cool design. But i agree with you: from a functional point of view, would have been great to have those blunt nose pliers a bit longer so that the fastener youre working on doesnt hit the wire cutters (even if that meant making the handles a bit longer). Would also loved to have seen the large bit driver exchanger and the Leatherman Rev package opener. Overall, good idea that i hope they improve with going forward in the Garage platform.
I don’t think it’s worth $200. Never mind the cost of eBay prices their going for. Rather buy a leatherman charge g10+ or a Vixtorinox swisstool spirit x for close to $200
Wait wait wait wait, are those parallel pliers in a multi tool? What the..... Time to find out if there's a supplier in my country. I'm an engineer and this is the best thing since sliced bread if they work as parallel pliers. And taking them off to really bog down on something, oh my, that's amazing!
I got the email notification and instantly hopped onto the webpage for the Mr. Crunch. Once I took a moment to inspect the toolset, I held back. Coming from someone who EDC’s a Free P4 in my pocket and a Wave + with bit kit in my backpack, I would’ve loved to see the addition of the bit exchanger and a file instead of the redundant chisel. Will say that I do love the flat finish, makes it easier to engrave. Appreciate the unboxing and review!
I think it has a lot to do with the Made in USA stamp. From what I've heard the bit holders are not made here..meaning it technically cant get the USA on it (70%)
I do really like the plier head design, even with the cutters that large, I can see how it would be useful for pulling staples or cables. However, I don't believe that the free is the correct platform to have that plier head on, something like the wave or surge might do it better. As someone who uses a chisel daily, the one they put on there is an absolute joke, however the small bit driver is a welcome sight
I really appreciate that they did homework on the pliers one of best features to come out from Leatherman in while. Like including the pocket clip disappointed no lanyard. I understand about the tool bits set’s being made outside the USA and skipping them. Someone will find away to install a bit drive and holder.
This is really underwhelming! The mostly useless eyeglass screwdrivers being one of the outer tools is odd to me and no teeth on the needle nose portion is puzzling as well as the chisel having the package opener look to it. I’m probably going to end up selling mine. And I still can’t get past magnets on a multi tool!
Fantastic preview, love the honesty and opinions! The concept of Mr Crunch is awesome, so when I got emails about it I was envious as it was only a month and a half ago that I purchased the Victorinox Swisstool X Plus (Wrench, and purchased the Ratchet separately). Also a month ago I commissioned a custom Victorinox SAK build too (my exit tool as it is very expensive, but built to be my perfect tool to compliment my Swisstool X). However your video shows how annoyed I'd be if I had purchased the Mr Crunch; the tools being loose, something that is less of an issue on the P4 but still present, would absolutely ruin my experience using the multitool and may put me off them too. Regardless of how useful the platform is, loose tools in use, and add comparison to my Victorinox, would just infuriate me, and that sucks because Mr Crunch has amazing features and design I genuinely adore. The Free series (and similar Leatherman tools, such as Wave+) remains in my mind the ultimate multi-tool for heavy frequent usage in compact form, due to user replaceable parts OR switching out certain tools. However the, admittedly long-in-the-tooth yet testament of long-lasting build, designs of the Swisstool and Swisstool Spirit are perfect for lighter, infrequent usage, but still wanting top-end tools in compact form. I love Victorinox quality, precision, and how the tools not only snap and open with smooth operation (albeit fingernail access) but are not loose. I agree with you that Leatherman skunkworks ought to have done beta and field testing via external people (signing whatever NDA's of course) to identify and even remedy some of the issues you observed, but I cannot get over how amazing the transforming pliers are! GENIUS USA engineering right there! I may still be more in the Swiss camp, but I absolutely admire Leatherman making off-kilter ideas into reality; hopefully feedback from this release will inform them of their next Garage release. Moreso I hope they find a solution to the issues in Mr Crunch and offer the lucky owners a program to apply the fixes (hopefully at Leatherman's cost, if only to show their commitment to do right by their loyal fan base). If not, then though we may get excited for the next release, we may need to take a pinch of salt too...
Great review. Was able to squeeze my order in before they sold out and am awaiting delivery now. I recall seeing an email from Leatherman stating they sold out within 40 minutes, which is probably expected with such a limited run. Anyway, thorough, detailed review and I'm now looking forward even more to mine arriving. I've also subscribed. Keep it up.
I love the pliers on these, most times I use my Leatherman I wish they were a bit blunter. What I don’t love is seeing they’re sold out but available on eBay, and that a bunch of internet hacks bought up all the stock and stuck them online immediately for 5x the rrp!
Youre right....the plier head and chisel is interesting. Sometimes i wonder what is going on at Leatherman with those retention issues and those smaller tools etc...
Yeah,I also I wonder how much pressure the needle nose pliers are gonna be able to take or not,I think they also could've done better with the tension of the tools being held in better,I first wanted a free p4 an then watched reviews an then see the flex when using the pliers on light stuff,an the I was disappointed,if done right,it could've been a great lil multi tool,an then there is where like Texas toil crib said,he works around plant where metal shavings an junk would get stuck in there an be a pain to take apart to clean properly
Good Video! You know what would be cool if Leatherman uses this concept and instead of small pliers they made it with just cutters I have been looking for flash cutters in a multi tool that I can use it to cut tie-wraps that I would buy.
The problem with this is how the pressure is applied to the outer cover...my guess is that not only will it not apply pressure evenly, it will also break easily
Also another thing,since we're paying a bit for these,I'd love for the knife blade steel be stepped up to 154cm like the charge series an have better edge retention,just my thoughts an ramblings
If I by hook or crook get my hands on a Mr crunch on asecond drop I may well put them to task just because its a tool meant to be used. I daily drive my Free p4 on non work days as the surge kit is my go to p4 has poped a few cold ones for me and done some minor work on yard tools as well as 4 wheeler
So sweet! Problem is I got the email and had to wait a couple of hours because I work in supply chain in a large hospital and on the site they sold out, check the auction site I said to myself…. 600-plus now! What a frighten rip off….. If I could slap the folks gouging everyone I would. Love the design and would work great for me, guess I’ll stick to my others.
It's not for me, but I do appreciate the plier head design. I kind of think of it as an experimental design that could maybe be used in future multitools/pointing toward the future. Good thoughts on this one, though. Thanks!
I often wish that I had a wide set of pliers rather than needle nose. But when the needle nose are folded back on Mr Crunch, it looks like those cutting blades will be easily damaged by larger items to grip on.
I once had a old boss that would never listen my ideas and ended up doing the job 2 times, same does Tim, he never listen the leatherman community 🤦🏼♂️
The chisel has that tang shape because it's a ground down blade blank, you can see the nub of the sharpening choil, there's no purpose for that on the chisel if it were made from scratch.
I wish they would put a medium wood chisel in one of the large slots instead of a dinky screwdriver chisel Work wonders for quick door handle installs on new doors
I don't get it. Why would I want the needlenoses ("needlenoses") to be detachable? What is the benefit over the normal pliers? Do these have a leverage boost, like the SOG powerlock, or... ?
Can someone please respond to this question....I also would like to purchase a leatherman with black oxide coating on JUST the tools and the polished steel for the frame...but leatherman website doesn't give that option....what do I need to do in order to make this happen? I see so many people with it...Im jealous
If I had one I would mod the hell out of it. I was unaware of the tool pop out problem. I really want to like the free series but nothing I’ve seen makes me want to drop the money on them.
My favorite one is the Leatherman wave plus. I use that thing almost daily. I think the eyeglass screwdriver is probably the most worthless tool on on any of these.
@@maxlvledc Super informative video as always. I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the people spending over $1k for this multi tool. What gives?
@@ShootingSportz most likely it'd been artificially inflated by scammers...but I'm guessing it will be around $700 in unopened condition to collectors.
@@maxlvledc I am a collector myself, but I just could never justify paying that kind of price. I saw a sold auction for $1,100. Haven't seen these kinds of prices since the NASA charge.
It seems especially bad for that precision screwdriver to have no retention because of how fragile that bit can be. I worry it might pretty easily come out of position and get caught on something and just snap in half. As a hobbyist woodworker I really like the IDEA of the chisel, but I'm not sure how useful it would actually be. It seems especially out of place on a tool where the pliers lend themselves more to mechanical kind of stuff, I think the overlap of people needing blunt nose pliers and needing a wood chisel is pretty small.
I watched Texas toil crib discuss tool in his video unfortunately he didn't have one bit just a diagram of how the tool looks,I'm surprised about the pliers,his thoughts were somewhat on par of the needle nose pliers slides off the chuncky jaws,but I will say if you needed them back on there,I think it's neat tool is closed at how it resets itself or goes back into needle nose position when tool is opened,hmm,I may just pick up one if not too expensive to have for my collection an to show off to my buddies who also are Leatherman fans ,I still like some of Gerber stuff,I just wished they had went with better cutters on there multitool, because even if it's a tad to hard, Leatherman cutters do pretty good and don't shatter like Gerber's carbide cutters, could be a heat-treat thing maybe or the steel is just too soft for what you need them to do especially if your paying for something and there not super expensive but still up there,other wise your just throwing money away,I do like that you can rotate them if they don't shatter,lol,but are replaceable too,at least Leatherman replacement cutters do what you need to a point,no there not perfect,but hopefully Leatherman in the future will make a super tool kinda like the surge with nice smooth handle an tools like the wave an surge both have to offer an still keep the exchangeable blade t-shank,that in itself is a awesome feature to have, different cutting blades for different tasks an projects, anyway,I have a surge an I love it,it'll do all of basic things I need done,but also like Texas toil crib said,why keep putting half bits,don't get me wrong,I believe regular bits with the extender would be superior,just my opinion.
Would love one of these, but just like the P4, it costs way too much. I guess they are pushing this as a collectors item since it is a limited edition, but it is just way beyond my budget.
You are completely misunderstanding the point of those players they are a parallel jaw plier they're not supposed to be a needle nose plier so much as they're supposed to be a parallel job plier that open up parallel throughout the full range allowing you to grab larger fasteners evenly and then if you need something with serrated pliers you can take the parallel job pliers off and have that
they are far far from being parallel pliers, like a plier wrench, the parallel nature your observing is the inner plier sliding accross the outer sections..it wouldn't hold anything with any amount of usable force.
Its cool its bad its gimicky. I agree that due to the limited production run people are not even going to put these to use. When i saw you pulling at the cardboard box I cringed. Dont damage it it'll definitely lower the value. Thanks for showing us this I'll never get to see one in person. Dont know anybody who was able to snag one before they were sold out
I really don’t like the fact the needle nose don’t have teeth on them. I’m a mechanic and I don’t see any fasteners that those would be useful on. This looks like it’s just limited just because.
the eyeglass bit would work really well as a heavy duty field sewing needle, if the bit had a eyelet. love the plier head. a couple screw removal teeth cut into the tip of the blunt nose would had been cool. love the new chisel. my p4 has been very impressive. often push it past where I think it will be damaged and it comes out without a scratch. hopefully Leatherman will use the garage version as a quality assurance prototype to make us a even better Mr Crunch. the unique design of the needle nose pliers will surely be found useful in unexpected ways. super fun to see the founders original concept finally produced. my p4 is raining supreme over my other multi tools (in hotel maintenance). the path of least resistance in the one handed accessibility of all the tools just makes my day better. there's no doubt in my mind being able to fold the needle nose out of the way will be a useful feature. great video thanks
Great video, very thoughtful 🧐 but WHYYYY IS IT $200 ?!?!? I can’t see it !!!! It’s a P4 with gadgets 🙈. All the tool sets are the same, some are totally useless, they should have lost the small file, the Philips & the eye glass bit holder, & replaced them with a bit exchanger , a descent large file & something much more useful for actual day2day functionality. It’s like they’re trying to use up the Parts Bin of leftovers. Hmmmmmm When are we going to see a totally new design from them!!! Or even a Surge with S30V blades & easy opening pliers ………. C’mon !!
Both this and the p4 are ludicrously overpriced for 20$ less you can get a surge over the past for 20$ more you can get a charge tti plus with an s30v blade for less then a p4 you can get a wave plus this whole free series is a ripoff no matter what way you look at it.
Hello, Dominic - Good starting analysis - this is a $200 prototype...this looks like something that would be examined internally including R&D and Marketing, I imagine, with comments made similar to yours in order to go to the next step to come up with a working model to actually test...I think the pliers (no teeth, no grip) on this prototype would twist and/or snap under heavy use...the chisel is a good start and hopefully will be in other tools in the future...the magnets - no, no magnets...it is a waste of time to be constantly cleaning clogged tools...as you demonstrated, the lack of tool retention is really atrocious...it looks really loose...I don't think it was meant to be field tested...a possible risk of losing $200...meant for collectors, not for use as a working tool, imo...looking forward to your next look at it...thanks!
I'm not sure Leatherman makes money on this. That needle nose plier and bit driver look like some kind of casting, so you need at least real tooling for this. The Jaw and and handle look like modified (machined) version of current P4. Is the packaging made in USA also? With all said and done, creating only 500 doesn't really take the advantage of higher volume discount either and IF the mods are still being done in USA, it would cost more for sure. I bet they broke even.
@@maxlvledc Have you guys find a use for the flat non serrated not so needle nose plier for? Perhaps it is good to handle delicate items like jewelry, glasses, or thing that you don't want to squeeze or mar the surface? As far the blunt/stubby nose pliers, I see that is usefull for changing lawn mower spark plug and axle bolt, and perhaps pulling a nail head.
Sheerly as a collectors item YES. As a long run useable tool no. I will buy a re-issued CRUNCH and perhaps a MUT to add to my SURGE and 90"s PST. NOW as the pliers go I'm on board perhaps a new tool changer with a diamond file. ruler stamped outside and new stuff then we might have a production tool. Not an answer to the upcoming sweetheart of 2022 from Gerber.
The pliers will snap due to being cast, they are not needle nose enough either, the magnetic/poor retention of the other attachments puts me off too. What a joke really, I'll stick with my original Crunch and Swisstool thanks.
Cool design on the pliers. Like most leathermans I would definately make some swaps. A lot of the inner tools seem pointless. Much prefer a pair of scissors, and separate serrated blade replacing some of the redundant flat head/scraper tools. I preferred a pointed awl like the surge has as well.
What do you use the awl for? I've never seen a need for one myself....just curious
@@theoutdoorsman9233 used it the other day to poke a new hole in a too large for her leather belt my woman bought at a thrift store.
@@theoutdoorsman9233 awl sorts of stuff. Lol. But really I don’t use it much either. Occasionally to untie knots or start a hole in wood. Sometimes it’s nice to have a strong “pick” so you’re not damaging the tip of your knife blade. That’s why I preferred the pointed end rather than the flat end, seems to take away the point (pun intended) of an awl.
@@thedewdster right on, makes sense
@@christophergardiner7372 hahaha....you're on a roll, gave me a good laugh
I want to purchase just because of the genius and ingenuity behind the tool.
I LIKE the Cutter being close to the tip there--allowing better access than with longer Needle Nose.
Tim Leatherman’s dream tool. Needle nose jaws, I notice, open and close parallel to each other and as many people have pointed out, they have no teeth. I guess they are for polished surfaces like hex bolt/nuts or thin metal sheets.
Mad props to you for being so candid and honest on this limited edition tool. If Leatherman wants to show off by making a premium tool, they need to actually make a premium tool. It’s an interesting concept, for sure, but I don’t feel like I’m missing out by not getting one.
It gets worse in the formal review...now that I've had time to inspect it.
Even though I could see some limitations, really impressed with the engineering of the retractable pliers.
Isn't it amazing that Tim came up with this in the 80s??!?!
it is a shame the free series can't be used in a enviroment with metal dust...metal industry doesn't love tools with magnets
Thanks for the first look, I’m diggin the mechanism for the plier head.
To your point of Leatherman not having outside people test products, hopefully the “Garage” idea will allow more feedback from outside users and help create some amazing products. Just worried that because it is a limited run, it will become more of a collectors market, where the tool won’t really get used meaning less feedback given - making the point of the garage meaningless in my mind. Excited for what’s to come tho.
yep, at 500..its relatively meaningless.
Thanks for sharing this. Very cool design.
But i agree with you: from a functional point of view, would have been great to have those blunt nose pliers a bit longer so that the fastener youre working on doesnt hit the wire cutters (even if that meant making the handles a bit longer).
Would also loved to have seen the large bit driver exchanger and the Leatherman Rev package opener.
Overall, good idea that i hope they improve with going forward in the Garage platform.
That chisel looks like it may have been made for Woodworking if so I would find it useful more than the large flathead screwdriver
I don’t think it’s worth $200. Never mind the cost of eBay prices their going for. Rather buy a leatherman charge g10+ or a Vixtorinox swisstool spirit x for close to $200
Agree.
It's clear the eye glass driver was designed to be an inner tool but wouldn't fit with the selectable plier head and they didn't update the design.
Wait wait wait wait, are those parallel pliers in a multi tool? What the..... Time to find out if there's a supplier in my country. I'm an engineer and this is the best thing since sliced bread if they work as parallel pliers. And taking them off to really bog down on something, oh my, that's amazing!
They do not work as parallel pliers sadly
@@maxlvledc that's too bad. Thank you for the update
I got the email notification and instantly hopped onto the webpage for the Mr. Crunch. Once I took a moment to inspect the toolset, I held back.
Coming from someone who EDC’s a Free P4 in my pocket and a Wave + with bit kit in my backpack, I would’ve loved to see the addition of the bit exchanger and a file instead of the redundant chisel.
Will say that I do love the flat finish, makes it easier to engrave.
Appreciate the unboxing and review!
I think it has a lot to do with the Made in USA stamp. From what I've heard the bit holders are not made here..meaning it technically cant get the USA on it (70%)
I do really like the plier head design, even with the cutters that large, I can see how it would be useful for pulling staples or cables. However, I don't believe that the free is the correct platform to have that plier head on, something like the wave or surge might do it better. As someone who uses a chisel daily, the one they put on there is an absolute joke, however the small bit driver is a welcome sight
I agree. Surge would have made more sense
I really appreciate that they did homework on the pliers one of best features to come out from Leatherman in while. Like including the pocket clip disappointed no lanyard. I understand about the tool bits set’s being made outside the USA and skipping them. Someone will find away to install a bit drive and holder.
This is really underwhelming! The mostly useless eyeglass screwdrivers being one of the outer tools is odd to me and no teeth on the needle nose portion is puzzling as well as the chisel having the package opener look to it. I’m probably going to end up selling mine. And I still can’t get past magnets on a multi tool!
I need to think about the teeth on the needle nose..in many ways I like that it doesn't have any..
Needle nose like that are typically used for making jewelry or other soft/delicate items
agree, magnets should be standard…
Fantastic preview, love the honesty and opinions!
The concept of Mr Crunch is awesome, so when I got emails about it I was envious as it was only a month and a half ago that I purchased the Victorinox Swisstool X Plus (Wrench, and purchased the Ratchet separately).
Also a month ago I commissioned a custom Victorinox SAK build too (my exit tool as it is very expensive, but built to be my perfect tool to compliment my Swisstool X).
However your video shows how annoyed I'd be if I had purchased the Mr Crunch; the tools being loose, something that is less of an issue on the P4 but still present, would absolutely ruin my experience using the multitool and may put me off them too. Regardless of how useful the platform is, loose tools in use, and add comparison to my Victorinox, would just infuriate me, and that sucks because Mr Crunch has amazing features and design I genuinely adore.
The Free series (and similar Leatherman tools, such as Wave+) remains in my mind the ultimate multi-tool for heavy frequent usage in compact form, due to user replaceable parts OR switching out certain tools.
However the, admittedly long-in-the-tooth yet testament of long-lasting build, designs of the Swisstool and Swisstool Spirit are perfect for lighter, infrequent usage, but still wanting top-end tools in compact form. I love Victorinox quality, precision, and how the tools not only snap and open with smooth operation (albeit fingernail access) but are not loose.
I agree with you that Leatherman skunkworks ought to have done beta and field testing via external people (signing whatever NDA's of course) to identify and even remedy some of the issues you observed, but I cannot get over how amazing the transforming pliers are! GENIUS USA engineering right there!
I may still be more in the Swiss camp, but I absolutely admire Leatherman making off-kilter ideas into reality; hopefully feedback from this release will inform them of their next Garage release.
Moreso I hope they find a solution to the issues in Mr Crunch and offer the lucky owners a program to apply the fixes (hopefully at Leatherman's cost, if only to show their commitment to do right by their loyal fan base).
If not, then though we may get excited for the next release, we may need to take a pinch of salt too...
damn this crunch will sell for the next 100 years..
Thank for your review, probably the closest I will come in contact with and now I'm okay with that.
Great review. Was able to squeeze my order in before they sold out and am awaiting delivery now. I recall seeing an email from Leatherman stating they sold out within 40 minutes, which is probably expected with such a limited run. Anyway, thorough, detailed review and I'm now looking forward even more to mine arriving. I've also subscribed. Keep it up.
I just got one and I plan on modifying mine. I want mines to be able to hold bit exchanges. I also want mines to have a Leatherman surge saw file
I love the pliers on these, most times I use my Leatherman I wish they were a bit blunter. What I don’t love is seeing they’re sold out but available on eBay, and that a bunch of internet hacks bought up all the stock and stuck them online immediately for 5x the rrp!
Youre right....the plier head and chisel is interesting.
Sometimes i wonder what is going on at Leatherman with those retention issues and those smaller tools etc...
I need a production model for my edc.
Best plier multi-tool that I've ever seen. Great review my friend 💯
fun drinking game: Take a shot every time he says "interesting". gawd damn
that sounds like fun!
Wow that's very nice I live in England I hope they do full production of them
Really interesting! Why would they put all that effort in for just a 500 piece run?
I'm still not sure...500 isn't really enough to get meaningful feedback
This thing is sick!!! Wish I wasn't working when they released it. I would gladly have bought and used it! Thanks for sharing.
I wish it had a regular bit holder
Yours looks like there some weird finish grind on the exterior of the needlenose plier. Can you provide close up photo?
Sir, do the engaged needle-nosed pliers open and close parallel to each other? Isn't that new for most multitools? Thanks. Your videos are fantastic.
That’s a good catch. They do seem to stay pretty parallel.
Hmmm, I didn't notice...you may be right
Yeah,I also I wonder how much pressure the needle nose pliers are gonna be able to take or not,I think they also could've done better with the tension of the tools being held in better,I first wanted a free p4 an then watched reviews an then see the flex when using the pliers on light stuff,an the I was disappointed,if done right,it could've been a great lil multi tool,an then there is where like Texas toil crib said,he works around plant where metal shavings an junk would get stuck in there an be a pain to take apart to clean properly
I just don't think the Free series is a platform that supports HD functionality at all..Know what would have been better? a blunt Nose Surge.
@@maxlvledc ,now your talking,I believe that would've kool
I'd be curious to see how much that plier head design can take before stuff starts breaking.
my guess..not much at all..will expand on this next week.
cool, but I really wanted to see the scaletool with the removable wire cutter
Good Video! You know what would be cool if Leatherman uses this concept and instead of small pliers they made it with just cutters I have been looking for flash cutters in a multi tool that I can use it to cut tie-wraps that I would buy.
Wow...now there is an interesting idea..
The "needle nose" jaws move parallel to each other - i.e they are a pliers wrench. Which is awesome and not found on other multi tools I've seen.
The problem with this is how the pressure is applied to the outer cover...my guess is that not only will it not apply pressure evenly, it will also break easily
Also another thing,since we're paying a bit for these,I'd love for the knife blade steel be stepped up to 154cm like the charge series an have better edge retention,just my thoughts an ramblings
The cutting mechanism moving forward in the jaws might be able to be used as a compound crimper...or something else useful
If I by hook or crook get my hands on a Mr crunch on asecond drop I may well put them to task just because its a tool meant to be used. I daily drive my Free p4 on non work days as the surge kit is my go to p4 has poped a few cold ones for me and done some minor work on yard tools as well as 4 wheeler
So sweet! Problem is I got the email and had to wait a couple of hours because I work in supply chain in a large hospital and on the site they sold out, check the auction site I said to myself…. 600-plus now! What a frighten rip off….. If I could slap the folks gouging everyone I would. Love the design and would work great for me, guess I’ll stick to my others.
It's not for me, but I do appreciate the plier head design. I kind of think of it as an experimental design that could maybe be used in future multitools/pointing toward the future. Good thoughts on this one, though. Thanks!
I often wish that I had a wide set of pliers rather than needle nose. But when the needle nose are folded back on Mr Crunch, it looks like those cutting blades will be easily damaged by larger items to grip on.
you are 100% correct
I’m not sure about the plier design,it’s one more thing to go wrong?
Ding ding! Cool proof of concept, not practical
Thank you, I look now for a new addition to my collection (meant to be used) and Im not sure about having no teeth on the needle nose pliers.. What?
yea...not sure about the texturing either..
I once had a old boss that would never listen my ideas and ended up doing the job 2 times, same does Tim, he never listen the leatherman community 🤦🏼♂️
This thing looks amazing. I went to the site and it said sold out. Hopefully it’s available someday
Will only ever be 500 it seems
The chisel has that tang shape because it's a ground down blade blank, you can see the nub of the sharpening choil, there's no purpose for that on the chisel if it were made from scratch.
I wish they would put a medium wood chisel in one of the large slots instead of a dinky screwdriver chisel
Work wonders for quick door handle installs on new doors
I don't get it. Why would I want the needlenoses ("needlenoses") to be detachable? What is the benefit over the normal pliers? Do these have a leverage boost, like the SOG powerlock, or... ?
to answer your question..there is no benefit..its a compromise of a compromise.
Are these going into main production?
No idea atm
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Were they advertised that they could open and close like a pliers wrench?
It can't
@@maxlvledc Ok. So they weren't advertised as such.
Can someone please respond to this question....I also would like to purchase a leatherman with black oxide coating on JUST the tools and the polished steel for the frame...but leatherman website doesn't give that option....what do I need to do in order to make this happen? I see so many people with it...Im jealous
Buy two...disassemble, and re assemble as you like it.
Nothing beats the sidekick for me
I really want to like the Free series, but for me the Wave achieved the perfect selection of tools and form factor.
Do the tools lock?
yes they do, its the same basic architecture as the P4
If I had one I would mod the hell out of it. I was unaware of the tool pop out problem. I really want to like the free series but nothing I’ve seen makes me want to drop the money on them.
considering they are selling on ebay atm for $1000...maybe work on something cheaper lol.
Are these available yet? can't find one anywhere
Only 500 were made, and they are not selling any more of them.
@@maxlvledc shame on leatherman, this is brilliant, I'd definitely buy one, I use my P4 every day but this is on another level 🤘🤘
Now in EBAY , price $500 to $1200 for MR. CRUNCH . That crazy 😬
I need more info. I want one.
My favorite one is the Leatherman wave plus. I use that thing almost daily. I think the eyeglass screwdriver is probably the most worthless tool on on any of these.
Definitely one that I can live without, but certainly interesting
Wow, you must live close. Mine isn't coming until next week!
I got fast shipping 😉
@@maxlvledc Super informative video as always. I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the people spending over $1k for this multi tool. What gives?
@@ShootingSportz most likely it'd been artificially inflated by scammers...but I'm guessing it will be around $700 in unopened condition to collectors.
@@maxlvledc I am a collector myself, but I just could never justify paying that kind of price. I saw a sold auction for $1,100. Haven't seen these kinds of prices since the NASA charge.
@@ShootingSportz wow...the nasa charge is actually worth 1k imo
It seems especially bad for that precision screwdriver to have no retention because of how fragile that bit can be. I worry it might pretty easily come out of position and get caught on something and just snap in half.
As a hobbyist woodworker I really like the IDEA of the chisel, but I'm not sure how useful it would actually be. It seems especially out of place on a tool where the pliers lend themselves more to mechanical kind of stuff, I think the overlap of people needing blunt nose pliers and needing a wood chisel is pretty small.
I think the plier head is neat, but I don’t care for it being based off of the free series. I think basing of the surge would have been a better idea.
I watched Texas toil crib discuss tool in his video unfortunately he didn't have one bit just a diagram of how the tool looks,I'm surprised about the pliers,his thoughts were somewhat on par of the needle nose pliers slides off the chuncky jaws,but I will say if you needed them back on there,I think it's neat tool is closed at how it resets itself or goes back into needle nose position when tool is opened,hmm,I may just pick up one if not too expensive to have for my collection an to show off to my buddies who also are Leatherman fans ,I still like some of Gerber stuff,I just wished they had went with better cutters on there multitool, because even if it's a tad to hard, Leatherman cutters do pretty good and don't shatter like Gerber's carbide cutters, could be a heat-treat thing maybe or the steel is just too soft for what you need them to do especially if your paying for something and there not super expensive but still up there,other wise your just throwing money away,I do like that you can rotate them if they don't shatter,lol,but are replaceable too,at least Leatherman replacement cutters do what you need to a point,no there not perfect,but hopefully Leatherman in the future will make a super tool kinda like the surge with nice smooth handle an tools like the wave an surge both have to offer an still keep the exchangeable blade t-shank,that in itself is a awesome feature to have, different cutting blades for different tasks an projects, anyway,I have a surge an I love it,it'll do all of basic things I need done,but also like Texas toil crib said,why keep putting half bits,don't get me wrong,I believe regular bits with the extender would be superior,just my opinion.
can u demo some of the tools
Not on this tool as I'm not going to be keeping it. I will show some more things however in the next video
Спасибо за видео, интересно. Каков он в работе?
Would love one of these, but just like the P4, it costs way too much. I guess they are pushing this as a collectors item since it is a limited edition, but it is just way beyond my budget.
wasup with the wurkkos/sofirn
I had it for shinning into the frame to see things..but never ended up using it lol.
You are completely misunderstanding the point of those players they are a parallel jaw plier they're not supposed to be a needle nose plier so much as they're supposed to be a parallel job plier that open up parallel throughout the full range allowing you to grab larger fasteners evenly and then if you need something with serrated pliers you can take the parallel job pliers off and have that
they are far far from being parallel pliers, like a plier wrench, the parallel nature your observing is the inner plier sliding accross the outer sections..it wouldn't hold anything with any amount of usable force.
"How to charge people even more money to beta-test your products" by Leatherman ©️
I love it. I want it now
so why not test out the pliers for us?
On a tool I'm going to not keep? I don't need to test it to know it will fail under even moderate use. More on this in the formal review.
No serrated grippers on the needle nose portion? Kind of useless as far as a needle nose is concerned. I feel this is a gimmick tool, unfortunately
I agree, but for a very different reason. being a cast steel attachment its soo much weaker than the original design intended.
the major issue with the free series and this new one is.... WHY so many flat head tools???? it would be SO much cool if not....
This is going up in value.
"Different frame".... As the frames layout and footprint are identical...
When you do a live unboxing, you occasionally change what you say during the video...which I did.
Its cool its bad its gimicky. I agree that due to the limited production run people are not even going to put these to use.
When i saw you pulling at the cardboard box I cringed. Dont damage it it'll definitely lower the value.
Thanks for showing us this I'll never get to see one in person. Dont know anybody who was able to snag one before they were sold out
I really don’t like the fact the needle nose don’t have teeth on them. I’m a mechanic and I don’t see any fasteners that those would be useful on. This looks like it’s just limited just because.
Leatherman - *here's lots of tools all in a small package*
"They all suck"
*But they're small, cool right?*
"Not really"
no saw?
Nope, the plier means you have to give up 2 long tools
Unfortunately I'm not going to be able to buy one of these as they are going for anything between 1 to 2 grand.
the eyeglass bit would work really well as a heavy duty field sewing needle, if the bit had a eyelet. love the plier head. a couple screw removal teeth cut into the tip of the blunt nose would had been cool. love the new chisel. my p4 has been very impressive. often push it past where I think it will be damaged and it comes out without a scratch. hopefully Leatherman will use the garage version as a quality assurance prototype to make us a even better Mr Crunch. the unique design of the needle nose pliers will surely be found useful in unexpected ways. super fun to see the founders original concept finally produced. my p4 is raining supreme over my other multi tools (in hotel maintenance). the path of least resistance in the one handed accessibility of all the tools just makes my day better.
there's no doubt in my mind being able to fold the needle nose out of the way will be a useful feature. great video thanks
We need to set something up with leatherman engineers and users like zoom meetings.
I will sign the ndas
I mainly use the heavy line tools
I've tried many times..they just are not interested in outside feedback.
@@maxlvledc it's a shame I know it's there job ..but it our passion
@@Davidg368 couldn't have been said better
Its must be unreplacesable cutter. Replaceable plier head makes weaker and easy to broke
Cool
Great video, very thoughtful 🧐 but WHYYYY IS IT $200 ?!?!? I can’t see it !!!! It’s a P4 with gadgets 🙈. All the tool sets are the same, some are totally useless, they should have lost the small file, the Philips & the eye glass bit holder, & replaced them with a bit exchanger , a descent large file & something much more useful for actual day2day functionality. It’s like they’re trying to use up the Parts Bin of leftovers. Hmmmmmm
When are we going to see a totally new design from them!!! Or even a Surge with S30V blades & easy opening pliers ………. C’mon !!
Both this and the p4 are ludicrously overpriced for 20$ less you can get a surge over the past for 20$ more you can get a charge tti plus with an s30v blade for less then a p4 you can get a wave plus this whole free series is a ripoff no matter what way you look at it.
Hello, Dominic - Good starting analysis - this is a $200 prototype...this looks like something that would be examined internally including R&D and Marketing, I imagine, with comments made similar to yours in order to go to the next step to come up with a working model to actually test...I think the pliers (no teeth, no grip) on this prototype would twist and/or snap under heavy use...the chisel is a good start and hopefully will be in other tools in the future...the magnets - no, no magnets...it is a waste of time to be constantly cleaning clogged tools...as you demonstrated, the lack of tool retention is really atrocious...it looks really loose...I don't think it was meant to be field tested...a possible risk of losing $200...meant for collectors, not for use as a working tool, imo...looking forward to your next look at it...thanks!
The Bugatti of pliers
but built like a Fiat lols!
@@maxlvledc what's your best built multitool then?
This is more like a Chevy Malibu that has paint infused with 24k gold flakes
@@Genesis992 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@danielorozco1728 hmmm, Leatherman MUT or Swisstool X imo
They dont open wide enough either. They dont have teeth for some reason which is bad.
I'm not sure Leatherman makes money on this. That needle nose plier and bit driver look like some kind of casting, so you need at least real tooling for this. The Jaw and and handle look like modified (machined) version of current P4. Is the packaging made in USA also? With all said and done, creating only 500 doesn't really take the advantage of higher volume discount either and IF the mods are still being done in USA, it would cost more for sure. I bet they broke even.
Your probably right, but the hype and marketing value alone doubles the investment
@@maxlvledc Have you guys find a use for the flat non serrated not so needle nose plier for? Perhaps it is good to handle delicate items like jewelry, glasses, or thing that you don't want to squeeze or mar the surface? As far the blunt/stubby nose pliers, I see that is usefull for changing lawn mower spark plug and axle bolt, and perhaps pulling a nail head.
Very interesting..
"how to attach any saw blade to the leatherman wave or surge" find this title and check it out is it real thing?
Sheerly as a collectors item YES. As a long run useable tool no. I will buy a re-issued CRUNCH and perhaps a MUT to add to my SURGE and 90"s PST.
NOW as the pliers go I'm on board perhaps a new tool changer with a diamond file. ruler stamped outside and new stuff then we might have a production tool. Not an answer to the upcoming sweetheart of 2022 from Gerber.
$200 is overpriced for this
Leatherman's basically makin users pay to test their products lol
By a long shot
the advantage is that needle nose on a multi tool are F__king useless
The pliers will snap due to being cast, they are not needle nose enough either, the magnetic/poor retention of the other attachments puts me off too. What a joke really, I'll stick with my original Crunch and Swisstool thanks.
That was my conclusion as well on second video.
Keep that cardboard box, worth 200$ on ebay 😑
HA! your probably right!
It looks cool but not going to get one. My modified generic is staying. Cheers mate.
It looks like it belongs in a fallout game. Even the name fits.