I don't think people prefer older bikes over newer bikes with tech but its the price. Most people can't afford it. I read that someone bought a brand new aprilia rsv factory in 2008 for under 10,000 pounds. Now they are around 28,000 pounds. That's why all the dealerships are closing down.
It’s not just bikes. It’s life. I bought a gsxr 1000 k7 pre reg for 8k years ago, It’s all relevant . Now a good full set of riding gear will cost 3k easy.
Its very true, I sold my bike last year after owning it from new, but I just can’t commit to £20 grand to replace it, the dealers as well as us are suffering !
Last year after much swatting up homework I deduced the best touring / big trail bike for me regardless of cost is a Tiger 955i with luggage. Spent 2900 Euro, suits me fine.
@@danielsale3805 agreed, we can't get youngsters into biking because of the stupid licencing obstacles and then the cost. The current bikers for adventure bikes are middle aged men with bit of money, buy they are getting older and I think sales will crash soon
@paulfastbikes361 yes I agree. The used bike market is where its at these days. I own a bandit 1200 and its basic but it does everything I need it too.
you know his name? you guys must be so tight. you are so special. I just want you to know how special you are...I mean, you know the first name of a TH-camr. wow. so impressed. you guys are probably besties, yeah? ya wanker....
Ya know the more I see this new version, the more I am convinced that BMW could not have created a more undesirable version of the most desirable model in history. This will go down in history.
@@noworkdave That doesn't have tech which can be turned on/off remotely either so not so easy to confine you to a 15 minute city. Well done, we have to fight against all our freedoms and choices being taken away.
@@-Eternal-Damnation-indeed. I suppose if you want this bike and can afford it then you should get it! You only live once. See you again for the GSA 1350 review?
The only relevant question is what is the warranty like and how confident are the dealership mechanics who will be forced to diagnose and fix all those systems?
As a GSA owner I think the best thing to happen to the Adventure and the *real* reason to upgrade is the ASA option. By all early accounts they got it right. The GSA is such an easy, pleasurable long distance bike, except in certain scenarios, for instance, when you're fully loaded with 40kg of luggage, have a nearly-full tank and are stuck doing 5 mph on a steep incline in the Alps behind a column of cars because some tw*t decided to take a relaxed horse and carriage ride up the St. Gotthard pass. In a stop-and-go situation that you can't easily filter out of this "easy" 300+kg bike suddenly demands all your focus, clutch, throttle, and rear brake skills just to keep the bike upright and moving. Unnecessary stress even at my height of 6ft 2. I imagine ASA will make heavily-laden slow-speed scenarios of stop and go traffic so much less annoying, and let's face it the gearbox on the GS has always been rough, so I say good riddance. This tech should make those 8 hour days in the saddle more relaxing, which is the whole point of the GSA, and I suspect most of the target audience for this bike would agree. That said, I'll always have a manual gearbox on my naked where the focus of the ride is more the bike, less the scenery.
I was unsure of the new look of the GSA from the first pictures and videos, but in person, the bike looks quite good. I’ve only had my 1250 for about 2 years, so I’m keeping it for a while longer, but the 1300 definitely has my attention.
@@rideroll9609 Nowhwre rear. At least a Ducati assuming your referencing the dry clutch once revved gives some form of excitement. This old flymo motor is very dated and clunky.
@@austinmatthews347 they are all crap. I own a 1250 and mine is going into bmw today to be looked at as it’s down on power, Not changing gear properly and chaps its head off.
@@Crsf84 i owned a 2022 xr it sounded very noisy at idle my gsa develepoed a noise in june during a europe trip once home vertu rotherham diagnosed worn valve guides in lh head so new head fitted sos is so bad they have given up and i have orange triangle on permanently i have emailed motorrad uk dont get me wrong i do love the bike
Great Video. Getting off the 1250 GSA and onto the 1300GSA is definitely the way to review , I remember test riding the 1250 while I had the 1200 and couldn’t feel any great difference! I didn’t rush out and change but eventually did further down the line, and I’m sure I will do the same with the 1300 .
Honestly if your looking for a much much cheaper alternative to this bike the vstrom 1050 is fantastic and about 1/2 the price. I was at the dealer the other day and they had one for 1/3rd the price. For more road focused stuff the new versys does it all and you get that sweet I4. Beauty of choice. Would you consider testing the "Tall rounders" against each other if you have the time.
Great example of stealing a march 😊 Enjoyed that ta My 1250 gsa rally just gets better the higher the more miles it does As I get older I’m more likely to go smaller and lighter to a R9t urban GS
Honestly, both bikes look great next to each other. I think my concern at this point is hearing the shaft drive being considered a consumable at our cost.
This European brands are on a competition in who can sell bikes more expensive, the Chinese are on a competition in who can sell cheaper, I think I already know who will be the winner on this game a few years from now.
The Japanese companies seem to be priced somewhere in the middle, and I'd personally rather give my money to Japan than a communist country who seems to side with Russia and is not overly friendly to the west. Sometimes u have to look at things other than just the price.
The main thing I dont like about new cars or motorcycles is all the tracking tech they put on the machines. Just because you can does it mean you should?
Chris, you are the first to spot this: the “ears” on the crash bars. These are great, but squeezing through is going to be tougher on commutes. I have a new style (for the moment) RT. I commute to London, without the panniers, using just the top box. I can foresee potential low scrapes as you twist the bars to squeeze through. As a commuter who filters for England, ASA, makes perfect sense.
I’ve still not had a go on a 1300 but had a ride of a friends 1250gs a few weeks back in Ireland on a trip. I really don’t know why gs are the best selling adventure bike, much prefer my 1290 super adventure in all aspects. I’m not against other brands it’s just not a riders bike from the time I spent on it. I will look forward to having a go on a 1300 👍🏼 Keep up the good work lads. P.s. I kept knocking my shin into the right cylinder head 🤣🤣
It looks like the sad result of R2D2 having his way with a toaster. I’ll do what I always do with new models. Hate the piss out of it until I inevitably fall in love with it.
salute! pretty new to the channel about a year or so,i thought that this channel is mostly sportsbike,naked or track performance videos...but this is great..coming from a former gs owner...cheers🎉
Having owned the 1300 for 9 months, it's a very fast and competent bike, I like it, but sadly I don't love it. I want a bike I ride just for the heck of it in between the long tours. Amazing motorway distance bike but for me It's lacking something, and it also sounds terrible (isn't the sound of a bike something we all enjoy). I initially wasn't fussed for the radar option , although now find is a very good feature once you get used to it.
So good to see it alongside the 1250 GSA, it looks great. Still a bit Lego, especially at the back but all in all it’s definitely progress. I’d happily braaap my way to Istanbul on one, not sure about the London commute with that scaffolding at the side though. Great review, thanks
What's absolutely ridiculous is I can't even get insured on one of these 😅 my Tiger 900GT Pro costs me £700 per year for 8000miles yet when I try to get quotes on the new GSA everyone says they can't cover me (and if they did it would cost a couple of thousand quid) - guess I'll keep my Tiger!
I’ve bought a brand new Honda nx500 with adventure pack and Oxford heated grips for £6k with 2 year warranty and Uk/eu breakdown. It’s enough bike for me.
"It looks better than the GS1250" you say 😂😂😂 At the factory can you ask " Does it have twin toast slots under the tank trim ?" 😅 Defo no fear of me changing from a V4S 😊
Fantastic. I’m putting 💵 down on a GSA ASA this week. Looking forward to breaking it in! And of course the recalls and future warranty work that comes with new models 😂🤣😂
That whine when rolling off/on the throttle would do my head in. The front tank bags make a very wide bike obnoxiously wide and for us poor gits in SE England filtering, never that easy on a GSA, will be harder. Biggest problem is that even on PCP it’s probably only for wealthier retired people. What’s the balloon payment on a fully kitted out bike? 12-13 grand! 😮
Someone needs to put together a crash frame that attaches up to the front pannier mounts. If the mounts will take it without punching dents in important things anyway
When you stood back for ‘spot the difference’, if you had the paintwork and graphics of the old on the new they would look even more similar. In the flesh it’s more appealing than the PR pfs. Seems a logical progression apart from the pannier frames. Give it 8 months and you’ll wonder what all the negatives were all about - enjoy the hard breaking and auto ride height highs 😎 Ps: my Jizz graphics arrived (bloody excellent vinyl cutting) - thanks Chris
I've ridden GS adventures for 10 years, several 1200's two 1250's and I always immediately trade up when a new one is launched. Yesterday I tested the automatic DSG version of the new 1300 GS. I'm sorry to say I HATED it. The automatic gearbox always felt like it was a gear too high and you didn't have instant contact with the road, the lack of a clutch lever means you cannot disengage the engine which bike riders do. The auto box moves up a gear as you accelerate around a bend 😱 a real heart stopper on several occasions. I'm 6'0" and I am comfortable on the 1250. I was cramped and unable to comfortably nudge the gear PEG on the new bike , I cannot imagine how uncomfortable a long 6-800 mile day would be, which my current bike eats easily. The seat is like an oak board which adds to the discomfort. All in all I was desperately disappointed and won't ever buy one. I'm 62 so I don't know how many more bikes I have in me but I'll be looking around rather than trying to use the 1300.
think you sort of nailed it …it’s not the messiah ..its just an updated GSA ..i like that BMW have sort of made 2 distinct options with the 1300 platform , i really didn’t like the old GSA , but i do like the new GSA
As a life long GS rider since 1984 (still have my R80) albeit with a couple of gaps, I have to say that the 1300 I tested was amazing in terms of stability, pace etc over my 2012 GSA. However, was it £15k better, absolutely not! The 1200 TC full of character and grunt, smooth as you like with a better gearbox and no driveline shunt. Tested a Voge 900 DSX, was that £4k better…..well, there is an interesting question, all day comfortable, as much power as you need in the real world, looks MUCH nicer to me. But what surprised me the most was the ride, much better and more planted than the GS on the infinitely adjustable KYB suspension. Makes you think! Just riden
How secure is your coffee when placed on the coffee holder on the top of the tank? Need to make sure I don’t spill mine when stopping at Starbucks. Seriously though, I like the bike. Was considering one, but decided to go for the HD Pan America instead. Looking forward to seeing your review.
Nice bike, love it. But not for me, I have had two GSA’s and they don’t last great tourers, but not fizzy enough. My S XR tours all day then gets giddy when it takes my fancy.
Would be curious how you think it compares to the Multistrada Rally I bought the latter in Matt black aluminum and think it looks much nicer, hides the tank size better and outperforms this bike by a bit
I've chopped in my 1300 for the gsa, the 13 feels quite sporty after having the 1250 gs and gsa. Not as sporty as the big Ktm but much closer than the 1250. I do find the 1300 a bit cramped tbh so how's the leg room ?
Id buy a 150hp v twin with modern suspension etc, but with minimum electronics to keep the costs down. Also, keep the clutch to keep the price down (plus went the auto does break its not a £1000 job to fix)
I have been the same, Had a gs for 10 years currently on the same trophy but the new bike won’t be getting bought, The buttons are sht the layout and this little faf button for the screen seats etc is rubbish. The rear pannier bracket is an expensive bill waiting to happen. The looks are imo worse than the old one which is the fugliest bike i’ve owned. The quickshifter is still garbage and the engine chaps like my old ford orion . For a “premium brand” like bmw you would think ze engineerz could come up with something a tad better than that.
Being vertically challenged I really like the automatic lowering feature , got fed up seeing shorties like me with high heels 😂😂😂😂😂 could we have reverse please 🙏 😊👍👍👍
Our we so shallow that we worry about our last year bike looking slightly outdated being a big reason to buying the newest model. Maybe it's this bike but doesn't the motor sounds like it is about to self destruct? I'm not sure anyone will look back at this model when walking away.
How come the looks of the 1300 adventure are so vastly different from the recently released r1300gs? The new 1300GS is sleek and modern but this Adventure is just bulky and weird looking.
…like any adventure bike, like my aftica twin, it’s gonna be a pain in the dickhole to clean properly. Any indication the (alleged) shaft issues have been resolved in full for the 1300?
I don't think people prefer older bikes over newer bikes with tech but its the price. Most people can't afford it. I read that someone bought a brand new aprilia rsv factory in 2008 for under 10,000 pounds. Now they are around 28,000 pounds. That's why all the dealerships are closing down.
It’s not just bikes. It’s life.
I bought a gsxr 1000 k7 pre reg for 8k years ago, It’s all relevant .
Now a good full set of riding gear will cost 3k easy.
Its very true, I sold my bike last year after owning it from new, but I just can’t commit to £20 grand to replace it, the dealers as well as us are suffering !
Last year after much swatting up homework I deduced the best touring / big trail bike for me regardless of cost is a Tiger 955i with luggage. Spent 2900 Euro, suits me fine.
@@danielsale3805 agreed, we can't get youngsters into biking because of the stupid licencing obstacles and then the cost. The current bikers for adventure bikes are middle aged men with bit of money, buy they are getting older and I think sales will crash soon
@paulfastbikes361 yes I agree. The used bike market is where its at these days. I own a bandit 1200 and its basic but it does everything I need it too.
Perkins on a GSA!! The world is right again 🥰
you know his name? you guys must be so tight. you are so special. I just want you to know how special you are...I mean, you know the first name of a TH-camr. wow. so impressed. you guys are probably besties, yeah?
ya wanker....
Grow up😂
Yup, it’s a tractor.
The cake selection in the Dabbling Duck is honestly god-tier
Ya know the more I see this new version, the more I am convinced that BMW could not have created a more undesirable version of the most desirable model in history. This will go down in history.
How much is enough? How much tech? How much displacement? How much cost? When will you be satisfied? Are you not entertained?
I agree, I started riding back in the 80's, a time when bikes and cars didn't have all this crap fitted to them.
My family car is base model. 15 years old. No extras. No issues either…..
@@noworkdave That doesn't have tech which can be turned on/off remotely either so not so easy to confine you to a 15 minute city. Well done, we have to fight against all our freedoms and choices being taken away.
hahaha, whats the GSA going to look like in 10yrs?
@@-Eternal-Damnation-indeed. I suppose if you want this bike and can afford it then you should get it! You only live once. See you again for the GSA 1350 review?
So come on then, what questions do you have for me when I go on the launch? Answers on a postcard (or just below) x
Ridden a few of them, the auto/clutchless version takes a bit of getting used too.
How does it feel with a half tank of fuel? Good strategy to make it feel less top heavy or does it just slosh around
The only relevant question is what is the warranty like and how confident are the dealership mechanics who will be forced to diagnose and fix all those systems?
@@FortyFourTeeth ask the designer did he used to gave a job designing panzer tanks?
Do girls shit on the seat before you ride it?
As a GSA owner I think the best thing to happen to the Adventure and the *real* reason to upgrade is the ASA option. By all early accounts they got it right. The GSA is such an easy, pleasurable long distance bike, except in certain scenarios, for instance, when you're fully loaded with 40kg of luggage, have a nearly-full tank and are stuck doing 5 mph on a steep incline in the Alps behind a column of cars because some tw*t decided to take a relaxed horse and carriage ride up the St. Gotthard pass.
In a stop-and-go situation that you can't easily filter out of this "easy" 300+kg bike suddenly demands all your focus, clutch, throttle, and rear brake skills just to keep the bike upright and moving. Unnecessary stress even at my height of 6ft 2. I imagine ASA will make heavily-laden slow-speed scenarios of stop and go traffic so much less annoying, and let's face it the gearbox on the GS has always been rough, so I say good riddance. This tech should make those 8 hour days in the saddle more relaxing, which is the whole point of the GSA, and I suspect most of the target audience for this bike would agree.
That said, I'll always have a manual gearbox on my naked where the focus of the ride is more the bike, less the scenery.
I was unsure of the new look of the GSA from the first pictures and videos, but in person, the bike looks quite good. I’ve only had my 1250 for about 2 years, so I’m keeping it for a while longer, but the 1300 definitely has my attention.
Sounds like a bag of spanners when you give it the beanage 😂
I would say almost bad as Ducati
far noisier than my 1250
@@rideroll9609 Nowhwre rear. At least a Ducati assuming your referencing the dry clutch once revved gives some form of excitement. This old flymo motor is very dated and clunky.
@@austinmatthews347 they are all crap. I own a 1250 and mine is going into bmw today to be looked at as it’s down on power, Not changing gear properly and chaps its head off.
@@Crsf84 i owned a 2022 xr it sounded very noisy at idle my gsa develepoed a noise in june during a europe trip once home vertu rotherham diagnosed worn valve guides in lh head so new head fitted sos is so bad they have given up and i have orange triangle on permanently i have emailed motorrad uk dont get me wrong i do love the bike
When at Newlands corner should have parked next to the Multistrada. Beauty and the beast.. 😂
Agreed my Ducati stole the show at Newlands , I was the bloke watching from the bench .
Bit of a surprise when I realised it was Chris from 44 teeth.
Explain us why you glanced on your left side at 8:13 ? 😂
The adjustable ride height is not a gimmick when you’re 5’6. Its the different between riding one or not.
I wonder how many folks have crashed while concentrating on navigating the menu's and modes?
Exactly. Technology for the sake of it. Remember the ridiculous servo braking system?
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Great Video. Getting off the 1250 GSA and onto the 1300GSA is definitely the way to review , I remember test riding the 1250 while I had the 1200 and couldn’t feel any great difference! I didn’t rush out and change but eventually did further down the line, and I’m sure I will do the same with the 1300 .
Honestly if your looking for a much much cheaper alternative to this bike the vstrom 1050 is fantastic and about 1/2 the price. I was at the dealer the other day and they had one for 1/3rd the price. For more road focused stuff the new versys does it all and you get that sweet I4. Beauty of choice. Would you consider testing the "Tall rounders" against each other if you have the time.
Great example of stealing a march 😊
Enjoyed that ta
My 1250 gsa rally just gets better the higher the more miles it does
As I get older I’m more likely to go smaller and lighter to a R9t urban GS
Honestly, both bikes look great next to each other. I think my concern at this point is hearing the shaft drive being considered a consumable at our cost.
This European brands are on a competition in who can sell bikes more expensive, the Chinese are on a competition in who can sell cheaper, I think I already know who will be the winner on this game a few years from now.
The Japanese companies seem to be priced somewhere in the middle, and I'd personally rather give my money to Japan than a communist country who seems to side with Russia and is not overly friendly to the west. Sometimes u have to look at things other than just the price.
the winner, older bikes
these will have software and hardware bugs, and the Chinese stuff will be long scrapped
Like the jacket Chris!!! 👍👍
Great review buddy. I'm going to take one out on the 2nd. Just for fun 👍🏼
The main thing I dont like about new cars or motorcycles is all the tracking tech they put on the machines. Just because you can does it mean you should?
Chris, you are the first to spot this: the “ears” on the crash bars. These are great, but squeezing through is going to be tougher on commutes. I have a new style (for the moment) RT. I commute to London, without the panniers, using just the top box. I can foresee potential low scrapes as you twist the bars to squeeze through. As a commuter who filters for England, ASA, makes perfect sense.
Great vid as ever. But does your dad know you’ve stolen his jacket😂😂
I’ve still not had a go on a 1300 but had a ride of a friends 1250gs a few weeks back in Ireland on a trip. I really don’t know why gs are the best selling adventure bike, much prefer my 1290 super adventure in all aspects. I’m not against other brands it’s just not a riders bike from the time I spent on it. I will look forward to having a go on a 1300 👍🏼
Keep up the good work lads.
P.s. I kept knocking my shin into the right cylinder head 🤣🤣
It looks like the sad result of R2D2 having his way with a toaster. I’ll do what I always do with new models. Hate the piss out of it until I inevitably fall in love with it.
😂
@@Brumsey99989 It won’t be easy falling in love with this. They are awful looking machines
That is the best analogy anyone could ever come up with. A toaster mommy is the only one that could ever love this god awful creation.
salute! pretty new to the channel about a year or so,i thought that this channel is mostly sportsbike,naked or track performance videos...but this is great..coming from a former gs owner...cheers🎉
lol check budget bike battles :D
Thanks for my favourite breakfast YT video channel, loved your quick take on the new bike, methinks the triple black suits the new tank.
I have been waiting for this video since 1987 😮🎉
It's looks massive 😮😮😮
My brother, hope your feeling good, and on the path👊🏼
Can't wait to get my hands on one! Great review
Having owned the 1300 for 9 months, it's a very fast and competent bike, I like it, but sadly I don't love it. I want a bike I ride just for the heck of it in between the long tours. Amazing motorway distance bike but for me It's lacking something, and it also sounds terrible (isn't the sound of a bike something we all enjoy). I initially wasn't fussed for the radar option , although now find is a very good feature once you get used to it.
So good to see it alongside the 1250 GSA, it looks great. Still a bit Lego, especially at the back but all in all it’s definitely progress. I’d happily braaap my way to Istanbul on one, not sure about the London commute with that scaffolding at the side though. Great review, thanks
10 seconds in I’m thinking that actually looks good at that angle.
20 seconds in I realise it’s the 1250 😅
It looks like a Lego/Duplo comparison
BMW plus tan adventure kit. This is peak Dad. 🧔♂🧓👴
Bought the same bike, however, with ASA, collection 1st March 25.
Which allows for all you new boys to iron out any issues ! 😂
The only vehicle in the world where the lego tecnik version looks better
Can I say I do prefer the old over the new 🎉
Is a cam chain tensioner an optional extra.
Those big beemers are fantastic, there are some seriously rich people out there!
What's absolutely ridiculous is I can't even get insured on one of these 😅 my Tiger 900GT Pro costs me £700 per year for 8000miles yet when I try to get quotes on the new GSA everyone says they can't cover me (and if they did it would cost a couple of thousand quid) - guess I'll keep my Tiger!
I’ve bought a brand new Honda nx500 with adventure pack and Oxford heated grips for £6k with 2 year warranty and Uk/eu breakdown. It’s enough bike for me.
Also more reliable.
How comes Bike World have already gone to the 1300GSA launch in Spain? They did a video 2 days about it.
Because they hired an "international" journalist who went with the German group... yeah...
"It looks better than the GS1250" you say 😂😂😂 At the factory can you ask " Does it have twin toast slots under the tank trim ?" 😅 Defo no fear of me changing from a V4S 😊
didnt say better - said the old one looked old...
Fantastic. I’m putting 💵 down on a GSA ASA this week. Looking forward to breaking it in! And of course the recalls and future warranty work that comes with new models 😂🤣😂
I honestly preferred my 1250. Yes the gearbox is a bit less clunky but the frame of the new one looks cheap and the handling is twitchy as
The American accent at 16:08 is incredible 😂😂 wasn’t ready for that
That whine when rolling off/on the throttle would do my head in. The front tank bags make a very wide bike obnoxiously wide and for us poor gits in SE England filtering, never that easy on a GSA, will be harder. Biggest problem is that even on PCP it’s probably only for wealthier retired people. What’s the balloon payment on a fully kitted out bike? 12-13 grand! 😮
Love the scenery of those old towns. Also, is the blind spot monitoring in the side mirrors a new addition? Thanks
Someone needs to put together a crash frame that attaches up to the front pannier mounts. If the mounts will take it without punching dents in important things anyway
When you stood back for ‘spot the difference’, if you had the paintwork and graphics of the old on the new they would look even more similar. In the flesh it’s more appealing than the PR pfs. Seems a logical progression apart from the pannier frames. Give it 8 months and you’ll wonder what all the negatives were all about - enjoy the hard breaking and auto ride height highs 😎
Ps: my Jizz graphics arrived (bloody excellent vinyl cutting) - thanks Chris
Never ridden a GSA… it’s my 45th birthday next week… perhaps it’s time 😳
Its time Dave. I'll be waiting for you with Crocs and a High Viz.
@@FortyFourTeeth crocs have already arrived brother 😉
I've ridden GS adventures for 10 years, several 1200's two 1250's and I always immediately trade up when a new one is launched. Yesterday I tested the automatic DSG version of the new 1300 GS.
I'm sorry to say I HATED it. The automatic gearbox always felt like it was a gear too high and you didn't have instant contact with the road, the lack of a clutch lever means you cannot disengage the engine which bike riders do. The auto box moves up a gear as you accelerate around a bend 😱 a real heart stopper on several occasions. I'm 6'0" and I am comfortable on the 1250. I was cramped and unable to comfortably nudge the gear PEG on the new bike , I cannot imagine how uncomfortable a long 6-800 mile day would be, which my current bike eats easily. The seat is like an oak board which adds to the discomfort. All in all I was desperately disappointed and won't ever buy one. I'm 62 so I don't know how many more bikes I have in me but I'll be looking around rather than trying to use the 1300.
think you sort of nailed it …it’s not the messiah ..its just an updated GSA ..i like that BMW have sort of made 2 distinct options with the 1300 platform , i really didn’t like the old GSA , but i do like the new GSA
Love this bike.
Did you not think the tank looked lilac outside .loved the brushed finish inside
What’s triple black about the 1300?
Agree on the radar shite. Excellent in road works but very dangerous in everyday riding/driving conditions technology’s not quite there yet.
Very nice bike but that pannier rack looks crap. Still got a 14 plate GSA which I still love and I could never afford a new one lol.
Are you guys not using the hero 7 anymore ?
As a life long GS rider since 1984 (still have my R80) albeit with a couple of gaps, I have to say that the 1300 I tested was amazing in terms of stability, pace etc over my 2012 GSA.
However, was it £15k better, absolutely not! The 1200 TC full of character and grunt, smooth as you like with a better gearbox and no driveline shunt.
Tested a Voge 900 DSX, was that £4k better…..well, there is an interesting question, all day comfortable, as much power as you need in the real world, looks MUCH nicer to me.
But what surprised me the most was the ride, much better and more planted than the GS on the infinitely adjustable KYB suspension.
Makes you think!
Just riden
How secure is your coffee when placed on the coffee holder on the top of the tank? Need to make sure I don’t spill mine when stopping at Starbucks. Seriously though, I like the bike. Was considering one, but decided to go for the HD Pan America instead. Looking forward to seeing your review.
Torque curve? That low end grunt is what I need on this bike for offroad. I would like to have my tractor back please...
Did test ride of 1250gs adventure...First time i sit and riden adv bike and im dissapointed.When i sit on my gsxr it felt like something much finer
went to bbq behind the white horse a few years ago took three days to recover and still get flash backs 😱
Nice real world review mate
Nice bike, love it. But not for me, I have had two GSA’s and they don’t last great tourers, but not fizzy enough. My S XR tours all day then gets giddy when it takes my fancy.
I met my wife in that pub in Shere. Been together almost 13 years now... moved to the Netherlands 7 years ago how ever...
Ahh, congratulations guys :)
what happened with barnstormer bmw? I thought they were the go to dealer/showroom
Clearly, not anymore.......
Did BMW discontinue the GS 1250? I went to our BMW dealer here in Philippines and they said its been replaced with the 1300GS
Problem is with a GS is highlighted when the Baron doesn’t filter in traffic.
Would be curious how you think it compares to the Multistrada Rally I bought the latter in Matt black aluminum and think it looks much nicer, hides the tank size better and outperforms this bike by a bit
I watch all your videos and they are brilliant. I like to ask you a question where did you get your coat and is it a motorbike coat?
So BvG - your 1200GSA vs 1250GSA vs 1300GSA? Verdict for the best one?
I've chopped in my 1300 for the gsa, the 13 feels quite sporty after having the 1250 gs and gsa. Not as sporty as the big Ktm but much closer than the 1250. I do find the 1300 a bit cramped tbh so how's the leg room ?
i totally understand this - yes, the leg room is superior to my 1250 GSA
Do you think they released to dealerships first so that existing GSA owners would ‘upgrade’ before seeing any negative reviews 🤔
Spot on lol 😂
Id buy a 150hp v twin with modern suspension etc, but with minimum electronics to keep the costs down. Also, keep the clutch to keep the price down (plus went the auto does break its not a £1000 job to fix)
I have been the same, Had a gs for 10 years currently on the same trophy but the new bike won’t be getting bought, The buttons are sht the layout and this little faf button for the screen seats etc is rubbish. The rear pannier bracket is an expensive bill waiting to happen. The looks are imo worse than the old one which is the fugliest bike i’ve owned. The quickshifter is still garbage and the engine chaps like my old ford orion . For a “premium brand” like bmw you would think ze engineerz could come up with something a tad better than that.
Great ride. I want to make my life easier.
Being vertically challenged I really like the automatic lowering feature , got fed up seeing shorties like me with high heels 😂😂😂😂😂 could we have reverse please 🙏 😊👍👍👍
how does the motor sound at tickover? sounds rattly to me? your bike sounded better man
Mine comes next week 👍🏼
Great video! When will the ASA version video drop? Ty🙂
tomorrow!
@@FortyFourTeeth Ty
I don’t think the mrs would appreciate me bringing one home so I guess I’ll just have to move out, or stick with my tiger 800 🤔
Why is it you're all of a sudden going to Vines, Guildford instead of Bahnstormers, Alton - which is miles closer to your hood?
All you need to know is that I'd rather do a 50 mile round trip to Vines - than a 1 mile round trip to the other one. Says it all.
@@FortyFourTeeth Oh. Blimey. Ok then..
@@HedgeCCLhe mentioned on his walking channel that their after sales was crap on one of the GS’s he bought
@@5tevieb954 Oh. I didn’t know that, fair enough.
Our we so shallow that we worry about our last year bike looking slightly outdated being a big reason to buying the newest model. Maybe it's this bike but doesn't the motor sounds like it is about to self destruct?
I'm not sure anyone will look back at this model when walking away.
seems like you enjoyed the multistrada much more
I’m ok with the design except for the beak…it’s too squared off. Maybe the aftermarket will notice at some point and fix it.
Cannot wait for my TB GSA ASA -due mid November allegedly 🙂
Is that a rectal examination? Hope it goes well. 👍
@@mv4ago 🤣🤣
The only real world issue is that the controls aren't back-lit, it's not a deal breaker but for the $$$ spent, that's a real world solution.
When does the auto video come out?
How come the looks of the 1300 adventure are so vastly different from the recently released r1300gs? The new 1300GS is sleek and modern but this Adventure is just bulky and weird looking.
What brand is your jacket 👍
RST ❤
Not sure how ya'll deal with constantly being behind cars. Too bad you're based in the city. Especially the average speed cameras. That's wild.
BMW has launched again the new 1250 into dealers??before jouno's?
i meant 1300
@@FortyFourTeeth All good.
All the GS people who are hating on the new one will be riding the new one next year guaranteed. You're right. The old one looks dated.
I wont. It looks shit no matter how well it goes.
People don't buy GSAs for their looks. Why isn't this understood?
@@GPR111 you will.
agree.........
@@WestCoastVisitori have gsa rallye i think its gorgeous
Des roues dorées sur un triple black ! Quelle idée étrange !!
Mais j aime beaucoup le modèle à part ça
…like any adventure bike, like my aftica twin, it’s gonna be a pain in the dickhole to clean properly. Any indication the (alleged) shaft issues have been resolved in full for the 1300?
Bought my 1300GS from James & Peter at Vines back in July, fantastic service!
Great review but il stick with my Honda V4 1200x DCT crosstourer.
And the cost of a well spect up one .... .. ?