Brand NEW IBM PC AT + Model M! Unboxing & Setup
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 มี.ค. 2017
- I was fortunate to be able to buy a sealed, new old stock IBM PC 5170 built in the year 1988! What a rare treat. Join me in savoring each piece of retro tech as I set it up with PC-DOS 3.30 and EGA graphics.
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I've posted the upgrade video here!
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Lazy Game Reviews this vídeo is awesome congratulations , you work is amazing. congrats from Argentina. the end of the world .
Lazy Game Reviews you say that because you dont live in Maranhão, Brasil
What vendor did you buy this from? I was trying to find it but no dice. Can you link it please?
LOL!!! I just randomly bumped into your video while hopping around TH-cam. I was actually working part-time for IBM while attending UT-Austin during the mid-1980s, and I used my very generous 50%-off IBM employee discount in 1985 to buy a FULLY-LOADED PC/AT "Enhanced Model", with 512-KB of memory,. with the matching 80287 math coprocessor pre-installed, the IBM EGA display, an IBM dot matrix graphics printer, an IBM dot matrix color printer, a monitor swivel stand, and the IBM PC/AT Floor Standing Enclosure.
You can see what the PC/AT Floor Standing Enclosure looks like in the link below. It made my PC/AT look like a cool 1980s minicomputer with the big vertical box placed next to my desk while I programmed using Turbo Pascal and Microsoft C during the 1980s:
minuszerodegrees.net/5170/cards/5170_floor_standing_enclosure.jpg
IBM would later copy this same floor-standing approach for their later PS/2 high-end models:
www.google.com/search?q=IBM+Personal+System/2+Model+80&rlz=1C1AOHY_enUS708US708&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjM47Ka357UAhWW0YMKHRwECMUQ_AUICigB&biw=1430&bih=733
The PC/AT Floor Standing Enclosure was the predecessor to the later ATX tower cases that are now the norm. Prior to the PC/AT Floor Standing Enclosure, all PCs were placed horizontally on the desk with the monitor placed on top of the case.
I also still have a mint-condition never used IBM 1.2-megabyte high-density floppy drive still sealed in its original IBM box.
The total price for my IBM PC/AT order was about $6400 when I ordered it in 1985, and I paid $3200 after the 50%-off employee discount. The sprawling IBM campus in north Austin where I worked part-time during the 1980s also manufactured PC/AT and PC/XT computers, along with a UNIX version of the PC/AT that ran the Xenix 286 operating system that was licensed and ported by (gasp!) Microsoft to run the 80286 in protected mode. No one nowadays realizes that Microsoft previously developed a UNIX operating system for the 80286 CPU, decades before Linux.
I was helping IBM to build PCs and attending UT-Austin at the same time that Michael Dell was building and selling PCs from his dorm room and Dell was advertising in the UT-Austin campus newspaper, The Daily Texan, under his original brand name of "PC's Limited".
I see that you have the later IBM Model M keyboard. I am actually still using my earlier Model F IBM keyboard that does not have the function keys across the top. The Model F mechanical keyboard used a very unique buckling spring with a capacitive design, compared to the membrane design of the later Model M keyboards, and the Model F has full n-key rollover, and a lighter crisper louder mechanical key action than the later Model M keyboard that you have.
Your RAM does not appear to be piggyback stacked on top of each other. My earlier PC/AT had 512-KB of RAM where two RAM chips were piggyback-stacked on top of each other and then soldered together in order to double the memory density. It looked weird, but it worked. My PC/AT motherboard looks like the RAM is having sex and humping each other with how two RAM chips are paired together with the top RAM's pins wrapped over the bottom RAM chip.
I actually am still using my Model F keyboard connected through a USB adapter, 32 years after I received my PC/AT :-) Quality and durability in a keyboard is when you have been using a keyboard for 32 years and all the keys still work with the same satisfying click-clack mechanical sound. I doubt that the modern Cherry MX mechanical keyboards will still have all their keys functioning after 32 years of use.
I last powered on my PC/AT during the mid-1990s and it still works with its DOS 6.3. I have been thinking about modifying the case to use a new ATX motherboard. But seeing your video makes me want to keep it in its original condition since its original keyboard also still works. My original IBM EGA display failed long ago, and I replaced it with a Princeton Graphics EGA display that still works fine. Both of my dot matrix printers still work.
You may want to see if you can find the PC/AT Floor Standing Enclosure simply because it really helps to free up your desk space by placing the PC/AT vertically on the floor. In 1985, I also ordered through the mail a custom-sewn dust cover that fully covered my PC/AT Floor Standing Enclosure in thick beige canvas fabric with a stylish dark brown border trim with my initials monogrammed on the front panel. You can see a vintage ad for the "CompuTogs" mail order that I purchased from in 1985 here:
books.google.com/books?id=Udw3QWX2LQ8C&pg=PA147&dq=CompuTogs&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwikyPn32p7UAhVE1oMKHWLfCbwQ6AEIKDAB#v=onepage&q=CompuTogs&f=false
No one runs a business like CompuTogs nowadays where you just send them your PC case measurements, and the CompuTogs lady in Illinois sews a stylish slip-on dust cover with your initials stylishly monogrammed on it. I ordered three CompuTogs dust covers at the time - one for my PC/AT Floor Standing Enclosure, one for the IBM EGA monitor, and one for the IBM standard-width dot matrix graphics printer.
That same PC Magazine page also shows a Cray X-MP, and I also previously did scientific computing on a Cray X-MP and Y-MP supercomputers. Those were good times during the 1980s - working on a fully-loaded PC/AT at home and working on Cray X-MP and Y-MP supercomputers at work. That was also the unconventional way that I was introduced to UNIX during the 1980s - by using the Microsoft-developed Xenix 286 running on the PC/AT and Cray UNICOS running on the Cray X-MP and Y-MP.
ENJOY YOUR PC/AT!!! It was the fastest state-of-the-art PC in 1984!! The average smartphone now has more computing power than that PC/AT which had a $5300 price in 1984 and was the world's fastest commonly-available PC at the time.
Lazy Game Reviews I prefer the EGA monitor on the AT rather than the PS2 because it seems to mathces the AT's "Ethos" if you will. I don't know that is just my opinion. I'm fasinated by old IBM computers mainly because both my Grandparents worked on old IBM computers that took up an extremly LARGE room starting the 60's. I think they we're called "Main-Frames" I can't rember. My Grandmther was one of the first female computer programers. My Grandfather was an electrical engineer that worked for American Eletric in New Jeresy they would soon be called Belltone. He even made little games for the family Commodore 64.
IBM was my first job ever. I worked at the plant in Austin, tx in 1990 and 1991. I ran geothermal testing on the motherboards in a geothermal chambers. It was interesting working in that lab.I left there in 1991 and started working at a DELL. Dell was a very small company at the time. We used to see Michael Dell walk around in tshirts and shorts. He even helped us build systems and chatted with us. I built Tower units and helped with the laptops. The Laptops were giant suitcase units and black and white screens. Weighed a ton and were 286 units. Good times! LOL!
Hey Robert I worked at the IBM Plant in Austin, Texas back in 1993. The Department I worked in was ECAT. So I actually built, all the parts that was in his computer. Sad thing is I bought my ex, a 486 SX from Dell. And I remember my supervisor telling me, you could buy parts for any computer IBM made directly from IBM all the way back to the first computer IBM ever made. I still remember that Dinosaurs of a machine I ran, that placed the majority of the components on the boards. And that we had one socket, that had an S pattern to the leads, that the machine hated placing as it could not see the leads as the part was so small.
IBM Boulder 1982-86. My first job.
Ted dibiasi You opened this can of worms you antisemitic POS. Keep your HATE to yourself we have enough of this in the world.
actually i do care about the computer dw
I may need to re evaluate my life situation, since I'm up at 2:00 AM watching a guy who sounds like Duke Nukem sniffing a 30 year old keyboard.
Mike Erickson get a life!
Who am I kidding it's 2:30am I'm no better XD
Mike Erickson i know right xD I just thought the same. And it's already 6 o'clock.
Mike Erickson All of you should get a life (3:48am here).
Mike Erickson its 2:04 AM for me 😂
5:54 here, had to stop building a 3d printer to watch this :3
“It feels so fresh - it smells fresh, it smells new! It smells… oh my word.” LOL that was the most enthusiastic keyboard unboxing in the history of the universe.
"Cuz its a model M"
"You night have to give me a moment" totally got me!
6:78Wake up
Of course, ITS A BRAND NEW IBM KEYBOARD, if you've typed(keyword) on one you would understand they really are wonderfull
OMG I read this as he said it!!!
One thing a lot of folks don’t realize is that those of us old enough to remember actually getting one of these actually reacted much the same way he did. Back then computers weren’t lining store walls and smartphones in every pocket. The late 70s and 80s were a time in which personal home computers were still rare. Most people didn’t have one but knew a friend or had an uncle that had one. Only about 1-in-10 households had a personal computer in the 80s. To have one of these and open one up was a mind-blowing experience.
Expensive too! This thing probably went for $2500 or so. Maybe more since it is IBM.
I learned computer programming on an IBM 360 series computer. It was 6 feet long 36 inches tall and had to be kept in a very cool AC room to keep it from overheating. It had 16K memory. The input device was a punch card reader. You would sit a write a program on a input sheet, sit down to the punch key typewriter. Then run the cards thru the reader. It would run to a point and usually error or stop code due to typo error typing up the cards. My first program was a payroll data sheet. Not much they could do, but this is where it all started for me.
@@CuriousKL That's really cool. My mother used to work at Digital (Digital Equipment Corp) in the late 70s/early 80s and she had told me stories about those giant computers that took up whole rooms.
*PC* : 'Enter the current date'
*LGR* : 03-16-2017
*PC* : WTF!?!?!?
So true😂
I own a IBM laptop that will tell me an "error" occurred when I attempt to type in the present day, time, and year. It doesn't accept the entry and refers back to it's default setting of July 17th, 1997.
My ATARI Computer
AC "WHAT IS THE CURRENT DATE"
Me "10 6 2019"
AC "SYNTAX ERROR"
PC: say sike right now
I don't even know if it knows what "WTF" means.
Get you somebody who looks at you the way Clint looks at a pile of unopened IBM boxes
Nakatomic 😂😂😂
Damn
Your hunt for The Key was one of the most tense moments of this video.
🤣🤣🤣
I literally screamed at my screen:
The box! It's gotta be in the box!! CHECK THE BOX!!!
The first game played on this PC was NOT CDMAN it was the “Quest for The Key” developed exclusively by IBM.
IIRC the keys were supposed to be taped to the back of the machine
Man there is something so special about older hardware and operating systems. The fonts, the sounds, the UI, the way it all works. It's hard to explain but it's so damn good.
It feels a lot more solid, substantial and stable. There's also a satisfaction in making this old stuff work because you were very much involved in the process.
To say modern tech is vastly more powerful (this laptop I'm typing on, for example) would be a terrific understatement, but what modern tech does lose out on is that they feel much more like an impersonal, mass-produced appliance.
@@brianm2881 and everything is so simplified too, I liked how back in the day doing something as simple as loading from a floppy drive means needing to use commands n shit
I love how he's having a massive nerd-gasm.
I thought he was gonna fvck the keyboard
@@jamesmuthiani5680 Pump your brakes kid, gotta romance that kind of keyboard. That model is litterally THE single best model/brand of keyboard ever made.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 right @@kmain5587 so I've heard. Used to have of these at my old school.
@Dr Psychedelic
nice name
Declip me daddy LGR xD
Keyboard has been in a box for 33 years, finally gets to come out, first thing that happens some guy rubs his face all over it.
That's the LGR way lol
The unspeakable things i'd do to it.
He’s putting his scent on it.
I love how genuinely excited he gets by stuff like this; pure elation over something so nerdy, devoid of any cynicism or sarcasm. It's refreshing, and it makes me smile. Good video, as ever!
hello man. i come back to this video every time i`m sad. the pure joy and happiness in this video is soul enhancing. sorry i dont usually like or dislike videos, i just subscribe and latch on. i felt the need to leave a comment after 3 years + on this video, witch i saw in the first days of posting. it`s inspiring how great content is not 10 guys + full production team. it`s a nice guy, that shows us nice cool stuff. p.s. your trift stories. i just love the crap out of them. mostly because im from easten europe and you live in a different part of the world, but you also like cool stuff like me. thank you man ! hope you`ll read this ...some time ....
clint is the best
i- ok
good comment :)
I set up a couple of dozen of these things in the 1980s. And you're right. Every time even then it was like a religious experience. Thanks for bringing back the memories.
Let me guess, at a school?
you KNOW it's old when it doesn't say "made in china"
and its the reason the computer still works!
Yeah because it was built in Scotland in the 80's. So it wasn't built by communists but work-shy communists.
In Greenock there is still an IBM railway station en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_railway_station
Although the plant has been demolished now the station is still called 'IBM'.
True they don't make them like they used to.
What's funny now with Moore's law slowing down it actually would be desirable to have a computer built to last vs one that falls apart after three years.
Patchuchan
my 1055T had been runining for more than 7 years now 24/7. PSU failed at just short of the 5th year, luckily it was under warranty but so far not even a single disk of my raid has failled nor shows any sign of going old so far.
Its just a matter of building the pc with good components. (assuming they exist, unlike with many things nowadays)
Man with strangely soothing voice looses his mind over the contents of a 30 year box, Circa 2017
I worked for IBM fixing these things (IBM Servicepoint), PC XT's, AT's, and the PS/2's. They were a joy to work on. I can remember two of the part numbers - 72x8523 (PS/2 1.44 Mb Floppy drive) and 72x8498 (PS/2 CMOS Battery). Happy days.
"High Capacity" - 1.2MB
those were the days.
Gold Fox7 oh crap yes hi capacity disks
Remember when you first got a (gasp) VGA graphics card???
Yes one!
We are so spoiled.
careful cuz one day that too will be small and obsolete and likely brake down first this old IBM we're seeing here was built to last especially last long cuz its never been used until this video
WoW .... nice to see the ibm computer
Brings backs lots of memories for me
I’m a truck driver here in Scotland I remember going to the factory and picking up the computers
We used to take them to Birmingham in England and that’s were they checked over before being send out to the costumer
The monitors where also made in Scotland .... we were the main hauler for ibm many years ago we stored them in our warehouse and I remember putting the U.K. plug cable into the boxes through the carry handle hole so not to open the boxes
I also remember we used to handle the processor codes for the cpu ..... they were in an envelope put into a container I.e truck container.... this little envelope on the floor it was the sealed and we drove it all the way up to Gourock ..... it could not be posted or travel by a courier company as they were not insured..... I also remember having security guards follow us in days got by to make sure everything went to plan.....
And I now believe the site at gourock is now Amazon
Now there you go a little bit of history for you
Best wishes Neil
kevsbear Thank you for sharing!
That’s a really neat little piece of history you were a part of!
thats so cool!!
Cheers mate. Cool history.
*Greetings from Texas, and thank you for sharing that bit of history. I imagine you saw quite a few Interesting things as a truck driver and learned a bit about all of the industries*
It's like watching a kid on Christmas morning, in 1988 :^). So much fun!
I got shocked! So beautiful packaging and such a rare chance to unbox a product from 80's!
I was legit nervous it didn't come with a key. Literally on the edge of my seat until you found it.
Joseph Fedele 🤣🤣🤣🤣
...there is always the dremel/grinder method to get it open, or the lock-picking. ;)
I need to find a girl that loves me the way LGR loves Model M's.
To bad these days, a woman like that doesn't exist, lmao. I don't think such a chick ever existed at all to be honest.
Women don't like you, they like what you can provide for them
Such pure love doesn't exist between humans. Never ever.
@@CoxTH Well you just crushed me lol
CoxTH Yes it does
This was the PC my pops brought back in 92. My first journey into computers. Now my career is in IT. It all started with this unit.
Ah, this was GREAT. I really love the 5.25" drive sound... takes me back to my youth!
God this is so cool. It's like opening a time capsule lol
It really is an event to savor!
Elfina, I feel the same ;-)
Here is a man sniffing his keyboard.... I respect it.
a techgasm lol
*nerdgasm
the g80 3000 is kinda midend. Got one myself but there are better options like Das Keyboard. It has a steel plate and feels much more solid than the g80.
But still the g80 is kinda awesome. Got one with the black linear switches.
It's exactly what I would've done. I still love new computer smell, but it just isn't the same as it was. The day I cracked open the anti-static on the mobo for my 386 motherboard. man. I'll never forget that smell.
everyone sniffs their keyboard when they take it out of the box, if they deny, they lie. i think its law somewhere. it mite only be a little one...but we've all done it.
admit it people....ADMIT IT...respect the sniff. ahem, sorry.
Watching you open the boxes was such a serotonin boost. I’m so glad you got to experience that level of joy and I’m glad you shared it with us. There really is something so special about having such a dedicated passion, and I’m genuinely so happy and heart warmed and excited with you as you open and set up the computer. Wicked cool. There’s nothing quite like getting to see people do what they truly love and enjoy in life.
I miss when people used to be genuinely amazed by computers. We’ve all become jaded to technology recently, so it’s fun to think that not too long ago when people talked about these clunky black screens that you could type green text in to with wonder and awe. For me, this channel keeps that feeling alive.
I live very close to an old IBM site here on the west coast of Scotland, UK where this unit was probably built. It was only when you mentioned Scotland I was like holy crap!? There is actually a train station called I.B.M, most of the buildings have been demolished but man it just dawned on me that's possibly where it was made! Thanks for the video it was really interesting.
How did I miss it, Made in Greenock! yup definitely made here!
I told myself I was going to skip through most of this and just see the computer being booted up. but every tiny little thing was so intriguing. The boxes, the manuals the keyboard, and the little stickers all in original condition.
Its hard for me to skip anything since LGR is just so interesting to listen to, he made a chair review actually interesting. If he can do that, he can do anything.
THE chair review.
I bought three of these in 1985 for the company I worked for at the time. I unboxed and set up all three (!) and ran the test software you are running on each. Then initialized and formatted each hard drive and loaded PC/DOS. I also had a video, a communications card and extra memory to load. I took an entire week to do all this and had part of a day left over. I was just as excited as you and took my time. It was glorious!
23:47 These sounds make me so happy
This video has 2 million views. You've been seen smelling a keyboard 2 million times.
*smacks* NOICE
he sniffed it twice so 4 million times.
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh you right
Actually, I had to rewind to that point around 10 times. So it's much more than that!
By now it has dried crusty jizz drops.
you got a 20+ year old sticker off in 1 peel? What are you ?
Experienced. ;)
still probably easier than a months old Gamestop sticker.
Lazy Game Reviews thats what she said
to be fair, for the past few years there stickers have actually come off without any issue, but i dont know if it was their old stickers or maybe how long they've sat, but they were a pain in the ass to get off
Some places that sell used games/movies/whatever I usually just leave them on because their POS stickers are impossible to get off without ruining the cover.
Sometimes I suspect they've used superglue.
80s 90s and early 2000s technology is something that we will definitely remember and love
I remember using one of these. I thought it was so cool back then. Seemed so fast then. The tablet Im watching this video on blows this PC away of course. We've come a long way. Still one of the best keyboards. You needed the templates since there was almost no user intertace to look at on screen. You also needed a notebook to write codes in as well as books about the software you were running so you didn't have to remember what DOS commands to type. Many of those commands and keyboard shortcuts still work with today's PCs. We found that binder very helpful. The main key was kept in our tower and the backup was kept taped inside the binder. Those towers were built like a tank. A case built as well as this now is quite pricey. The power port design has barely changed. The first PC we had didn't use a mouse. Didn't learn how to use a mouse nor a visual user interface until we upgraded to a 486 PC. I still love the noises that these old PCs made. Haven't heard that in years. The happy beep! Computers today are so quiet. I turn off the boot splash screens on my modern PCs so that I can watch them go through diagnostics. CD Man!?! Awesome! I remember that game.
That was cool to see it boot up to BASIC the first time you powered it on. Since all of my experience has been with IBM compatibles, they never had BASIC in ROM like that.
Aye, BASIC in ROM is always a nifty thing indeed :)
A wild 8-bit guy appeared!
OMG SENPAI NOTICE ME!
Yeah, that was quite the revelation!
Also...
OMG The 8-Bit Guy is here!!!
Put my patronage to good use already! ;-)
Is it just me.. or does it say this message was from 5 days ago?
Also..
Omg 8 BIT GUY!!...Love your Videos
greenock .... i worked in that plant from 1987 - 2007
i bet i was on the assembly line that built that monster :D :D
OwO
SoDaftMinecraft first time I’ve seen that particular face typed out in this comment section
@@silasmcgee3647 lol
r/thathappened
Marsipan Marsian Honestly, what’s not to believe ? People who are watching this are into computers. If he worked at IBM, chances are he is into computer and is following this channel, you know ?
Brings back memories of unboxing and setting these up in the mid to late 80's. I remember our store cupboard having lots of spare new M keyboards for some reason. I never appreciated them back then, but I really want one now!
Holy shit, dude! We'd been meaning to watch this for years. I finally remembered! What an awesome thing to watch! Everything about the process made me squee with pure delight, right along with you. I especially loved your reaction to the brand new model M! -Mea
21:18 Professional Graphics Array
Fun fact: The PGA was designed by Curtis Priem (later cofounder of NVIDIA), who joined IBM after graduating from my school, RPI. He donated our current performing arts building, and I got to shake hands with him last fall at our concert with Josh Groban!
One day at IBM Boca Raton in the early daze, we went to see the engineer working on the software for this board, Bob. By now in our young careers we’ve gone from developing the DOS programs on green screens through CGA, EGA and now PGA. Bob showed us the unbelievable graphics. Then, the inevitable Playboy centerfold, the one with the hat. Yes, the world worked like that, even then.
I love the noises old computers make when they boot up! It sounds like a jet engine mixed with the THX movie sound.
Later models the fan got faster with the turbo button too! So much fun 🤩
23:40
When Clint opened that Model M, I have never seen anyone happier. I was smiling the whole unboxing :)
9:59 I teared up when you opened that keyboard. It's a beautiful thing, friend.
Call IBM and ask for warranty service on that machine since you just opened it this year and see what they say LOL.
Free upgrade options? LoL
Sir when you power on what is it asking you.....It is asking me model Keyboard I am using, but I am entering what came in the manual and it says not recognized????? :)
It would be funny to mail in the customer comment card. Backdate it maybe as well to play a good joke. lol
+Anonymous Anonymous No, technically the warranty begins at the time of original purchase. The system is brand new, never used, directly out of the factory packaging. Which makes William Todd's comment an interesting question. From a legal standpoint, it should technically be under warranty lol. So I have no idea what IBM would say, but it would certainly be interesting to find out.
Another TH-cam user did this with an IBM PS/2 that was new in the box - never opened. IBM didn't respond too well...
What might be an amusing episode is if you were to contact IBM customer service directly and try to get some assistance with this newly opened and installed PC 5170. If you get really lucky Clint, you might be able to get to someone over there with both a sense of humor and a sense of history. :)
I really liked your comment, but some Indian call center would probably as far as he could get nowadays. Personal assistance is dead since ages.
binge watching all your videos man. amazing. nostalgia at its best. I remember asembling machines out of parts my dad bought in germany, erlangen, back in 1995. I made 5 machines, just because there was enough hardware. all 486x machines. i can literally smell the computer parts watching your videos. thanks!
"Current date is 01-01-1984"
Nostalgia for a time I never knew.
Jeffory Mitchell
Welp. I feel old now. I was almost 4 on that exact date.
Nice to see someone else who remembers what the world pre internet was like. Kids nowadays..lol.
Go buy "Real World" by Mr. Mister on a cassette...and, um, go buy a cassette player to play it in...and you'll be all caught up.
I was 5 months old.
@@childofcascadia I was 2.
That's almost certainly a lithium *primary* battery, not a lithium ion battery. In particular, it's not rechargeable, and it's designed for a shelf life of 10+ years. So it's not completely surprising that it still works. I would not replace it with AA batteries; they will work, but their shelf life is much shorter. Better to replace it with another lithium battery.
...what about lithium AAs :D
MattExzy Lithium AAs are perfectly fine and typically have their own 10-20 year shelf life. I do not like to use regular alkaline batteries as they have a tendency to develop leaks, tucked well out of site, long before the battery will have run down from the attached load as the SRAM used for the BIOS settings draw almost no power, they mostly just need the voltage potential to maintain their state (real load is typically in the nano amps to pick amps range). The battery pack can then be secured to the chassis with heavy duty Velcro to hold them out of the way and prevent them impacting electronics when moving the device,
But it is not at all uncommon for a lightly loaded lithium battery to last for decades. I had an old digital Casio watch from the late 80s whose original lithium cell was still powering the watch up until 2007, or nearly 20 years on the original battery. I was very surprised to come across that watch after it had been packed up in a box for a move and untouched for over a decade and was still running when I opened the box after another move in 2005.
To clarify for people not in the know, a 'primary' battery is a non-rechargeable battery. Watch batteries are a familiar example of non-rechargeable lithium (which are different from lithium-ion/lithium polymer) batteries.
9:58 - 10:09
The amount of joy you vocalize is what makes this video one of my top favorites, even after all these years.
Seeing how enthusiastic you were opening everything, especially the model m keyboard, really put a big smile on my face! I would have been just as excited!!
Yeah, sex is pretty cool
_but have you ever unboxed an unopened Model M?_
Mauhahaha bru I was thinking the same thing😂🤣🤣
Maria? ya, i "opened" that models box....
bro this box is so cool !!! I can't wait to jerk off ALLL over it!
dumb ass!
@kappelmeister123 Newsflash.......Not everyone cares that much about about sex.
You must fill the registration card and send it to IBM!
Who's old enough to remember 'Whiz Kids' ?
It was my absolute favorite show as a kid.
Man! This video brings back EVERY memory I have about setting up our new computer room in 1985 in college!
Watching this is like going to a kids birthday party, there's nothing there for you but the kid is having such a great time.
great video! I worked for computerland from 1987-1991 and i remember unboxing and setting up tons of those at's and xt's. the styrofoam is actually glued to the top and bottom panels and usually opens properly (styrofoam sticking to box top and bottom) when new, but being almost 30yrs i am sure the styrofoam has failed :)
looks like your unit was probably setting in a hot warehouse at one time. the units only came with one com port / parallel card. we installed customer ordered video cards, memory boards, had drives, tape backup units, additional 5 1/4" floppy or 3 1/2" floppy and whatever accessories the customer ordered.
the at's usually came with 512k ram (256k dram chips doubled stacked on one another). dos as also sold seperately. it was always nice installing a brand new 5 1/4" full height 5mb hard drive that weighed 5lbs by itself. you had to low level format hard drives first to mark bad sectors then format the drive for the operating system. we always included spinrite (hard drive low level formatter and bad sector utility).
video brought back tons of memory, thanks!
Mike Danick Neat comment, thanks for the info! Quick questions: Did you ever upgrade the 512k ram for customers? Also, did you have customers buy PCs specifically for gaming back then?
Sonicman to go above 512k you need to add an expanded memory board, the expanded memory board will take you to 640k of extended memory then what ever is left becomes expanded memory. say you add a 1024k (1mb expanded memory board) that takes you to 640k extended memory and 896kb of expanded memory.
back then we didn't have customers asking for gaming pc's, but that is the when gaming was mainly done on the apple II (IIe, IIc, IIgs) or the C64 and Amiga which computerland didn't sell. the computers we sold (IBM, Compaq, hewlett packard, packard bell and digital) mainly businesses.
ega graphics were the main boards we sold, then vga and evga once they arrived. really didnt sell many of the ibm and compatibles or macs to home users, mainly we sold to business, back when sneakernet was the only major networking sharing.
also back then alot of the hard drive controllers had low level formatting options built into the controllers firmware and you would load debug and then execute the formatter at whatever address the factory stored the program (ie: $C800). you had to low level every hard drive back then so you could map out the bad sectors. back then it was normal to have a bunch of bad sectors on your hard drive, whereas today you dont have bad sectors. once done, run fdisk to create partitions, format the drive and then make a \dos subdirectory and copy all the dos disks files to the \dos directory.
it was really cool that you got that unmolested AT, watching your video brought back lots of memories, also really enjoy your videos, keep up the great work.
this whole part of the comments section :o... wow.
Oh!! Spinrite - another blast from the past!! Forgot about that one...
I still use spinrite. The latest version. Saved a few drives.
Man the amount of joy for that model M. Makes me happy seeing it make someone else that happy
Those 00's in the '00512 KB OK' message were inspiring to read back then when I was little. "Whoa, it can have so much more!"
That old FDD whirry grindy noise is still magical to me and I'm not even that old, I just had ancient PCs to work with as a kid.
Great video!! It brings back loads of memories for me. I worked for IBM New Zealand back in the day and I was the technical specialist for the Personal Computer range. In fact the first IBM PC AT into New Zealand was addressed to me and I got to do the unpacking for the first time.. I remember commenting: "No one will ever fill up that hard drive". Who knew?
Yup, no mouse port! The first IBM PC's with mouse ports where the PS/2 range released in 1987.
Alan Douglas time flies my friend, time flies!!!
I love all those software titles you have still in the box. I miss the days when you went to store to buy a PC game and you could not wait till you got home so you could put in the floppies or CDs to install the program.
Don't know why, but I am watching this video again and it still feels awesome.
This feels like I'm looking into an alternate universe where LGR is unboxing and reviewing an IBM computer in 1988
I used to work in my uncles computer shop in England from the time of 186 processors to the first 64bit dual core CPU's.
You wouldn't believe the amount of computers we had in for repairs because some one flicked the voltage switch on the back of the PSU. The other funny one was fried 56k modems after a thunderstorm.
I can't believe I not only watched this entire video but got so excited over an ancient PC. My first PC was a IBM 486 DX2. I can remember the modem being bad and IBM sent me the replacement modem and a very funny and patient tech walked me through replacing it over the phone. I was so nervous my hands were shaking and I kept losing the tiny screws, but I was so proud after I replaced it. It made me just as interested in hardware as the software. I always loved this style keyboard and the original IBM track point keyboards. This exact style with the track points built-in. I actually have one I can't bear to throw away. Awesome video although it's making me feel very old the more I think about it. ;)
Truly a Beautiful masterpiece of Analog engineering. Congratulations. I am ln tears of joy for your acquisition.
Man when I was 14 I used to earn a few bucks at a computer leasing company/authorized IBM dealer. I spent weeks cleaning/disassembling/reassembling and testing/documenting returned leasing machines. And they paid good money :)
Good times
I was in the building where these were made in 1984-85 at Boca Raton, FL, I was a test technician for the RAM chips! Though yours' was manufactured in Greenock, Scotland. I think Boca was making the PS2 line in 1988.
Milton Smith
I love youtube comments like this instead of people shitposting. Unfortunately youtube is 99.5% shitpost.
That poor building got turned in a whole lot of stuff after ibm sold it now they have a little tiny spot in boca :(
You must have a lot of information from this time and the products. Would be nice to hear more about that. Maybe you can make a TH-cam video about it or meet up with Clint and make a video about your stories and he can edit it in a good way.
I come back to this video like twice a year and just let the vibes wash over me
Man that model m sounds great. The lens I've heard have a lot of spring ping but that one just sounded like how you expect an old school keyboars to sound
Man, I'm not into the retro computer hobby, but just hearing your giggling and exitement during the video is just contagious. I couldn't help but getting exited and smiling at your joy too. It just reminded me when I was little and got super hyped for getting a new toy on christmas
Same! Not a collector either but I love seeing Clint happy lol
I worked for an IBM VAD/VAR in the 80's and received one of the first AT's off the assembly line. Also had a dial-up modem account to Boca Raton for ordering replacement parts. Thanks for the trip down memory lane. I remember wondering who would ever need more than a 20 MB hard drive.
20 MB was huge back then ! I didn't even come close to using all of it until 1991. In 1998 I was wondering how I'd ever use up 12 GB but 3 yrs later I had figured out ways. I keep running out of space on the 32 GB SSD in my phone. And now PCs typically come with a TB. I've already used 3/4 of that in about 2 yrs. How long before the everyday user needs a PB ?
Soon the computers/phones will be implanted in us.
@@mikegravell1409 it's already happening.
MIXED BAG VLOGS & VIDS it's happening without some of us knowing it happened.
I lost a whole day long ago.went to bed on wed.woke up Friday morning😎
Hi. I had a manager at IBM Boca in the mid 80's named Dave Gravell. Any relationship?
I forgot we used to load date and time, wow! The days before the Internet was in everyone's home! I remember I used to have the key off a mid 70’s bike lock that used the same type of key, it fitted every IBM I came in contact with. Noises that annoyed me at the time you’re making me look back on with fondness.
This has quickly become one of my favourite channels on TH-cam, your enthusiasm is fantastic.
Awesome episode! This was so much fun to watch.
I've hereby seen a man sniffing keyboard with passion.
I can go in peace now.
You fool! you've brought the y2k bug to the future!
True, over time PCs have lost all resistance to y2k
It's like that Futurama episode where Fry gets a cold and everyone freaks out because humans have no resistance in the year 3000
To paraphrase an old, stale meme: still a better story than Terminator Genesis ;P
Jacob Lund What's the Y2K BUG? someone explain it go me?
+CyanideSurprise Google it dumbass.... its when the year on a computer was displayed with just 2 digits instead of 4. nobody knew how computers would cope when it hit the year 2000 so everyone lost their shit.
I used one from 2000 up until 2012 that was configured for testing 747 aircraft audio control panels which had a custom ISA card and custom software for testing the panels after repair.. it did the job well and never crashed. Even had a monochrome monitor LOL.. great stuff mate!
Hearing the genuine happiness in your voice is so heart-warming!
That keyboard is gettin lucky tonight!
A warehouse full of these things? Can you link us to this guy?
Alex Brohm I second the motion! a mint condition pc would make my collection all the more interesting!
www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-FACTORY-SEALED-IBM-Personal-Computer-AT-5170-Model-339-286-512KB-30MB-/322447170008
Vossie $500 to the average IBM collector like LGR is absolutely nothing. This is VERY cheap for a SEALED BRAND NEW computer. You may not understand the value but others will, if I had the cash I'd buy one in a heartbeat.
Udai Taxim On their listing they only show shipping to United States. I'm sure they would ship to the UK but you will have to pay much MUCH more for shipping to the UK due to not only weight but also for size. Shipping to the US is already $75, I can already imagine the cost of shipping to the UK. Also next time you ask a question like this, follow the link LGR posted and ask the seller yourself instead of having someone else answer for you. ;)
Annd... Its Gone! Wow, I was expecting a much higher asking price. Dammit, I would get one, if only my current situations allowed it to.
Wow awesome and congratulations on your brand new computer!!
ROFL! My wife came in just as I was saying "touch it, touch it, touch it" at the 10 min mark and shot a look at the screen to see TOTAL GEEK PORN!!!
Thanks for the trip down memory lane, those keyboards were INCREDIBLE.
10:00
The moment our boy Clinty became a man.
Anyone into old computers would have nutted to this as well
Warning: this box contains Virgin-B-Gone
For those of you wondering more about the warehouse this IBM AT came from, here you go. What an incredible sight in the modern day. :)
twitter.com/lazygamereviews/status/845340798174580736
His Ebay seller name is "shopofc." EDIT: no longer selling
Madness! :)
This is damn best unboxing I have seen in my entire life .. ah, the time when things were simple and customers(us) were kings
Are they still for sale?
Very entertaining and interesting video. I remember the days when the computer actually had to be understood to be operated.
Im happy for you, man!
Its the "UNBOXING" of a 30 year old computer in 2021 that keeps me coming back to your LGR extravaganza channel :-)
I LOVE how excited you are! Thanks XX
4:42 - "It does have a little bit of...not damage, it's just going to need cleaning..."
*8-Bit Guy, dressed as Duke Nukem, breaks down the door, dual-wielding spray bottles of Retrobright*
Shawn Elliott LMAO I-
*duke nukem voice* time to get cleanin
Don't forget his favourite: hydrogen peroxide
How do you know it's The 8-Bit Guy?
I love how the user guide and startup disks come in a binder. Showing just how important those things were for a lot of users back in the day. You don't see that anymore.
Love that drive sound! Brings back memories.
Just found this channel from an Ars Technica article. I'm and old guy and at one time had all this stuff and got rid of it over the years. Wish I had it all back. Loving this channel.
“You’re going to have to give me a moment” - most perfectly timed mid-roll ad placement ever - 😂
I wouldn't know because I use TH-cam Vanced.
Takes me back, thanks for the memories, damn I feel old :) I started work as a programmer back in 85 and used to setup these
PCs for our customers, and get them started on the dizzy world of using computers for the first time. IBM PCs and cheaper clones made by Amstrad. No Windows operating system, just MS-DOS [edit - oh yes, PC-DOS my memory is failing!] and that welcoming prompt. Happy days.
Also feeling old, used to repair these babies over this side of the puddle.
I wil remember a gtx 1080 like that
In 80s as a teenager I had this same setup, I remember playing Zork and Cutthroat. So much fun. I even had the printer with it, worked amazing!
It's been a long time since I had my hands on one of those. Thank you for sharing.
You should call IBM to register it. Then get a telegraph and contact AT&T.
They are Lenovo now
nah
IBM still exists, but the computer computer stuff is done under Lenovo
Acoustic modem over a pots line
@LAFOLLETTER Wow maybe communism isn't that bad, since they could afford buying all this companies
@@GuilhermeFerreira-we3lw so the red bandit is cool because he can buy you ? Wow it must be a leftist logic...
I just love your passion dude, i work in IT but im not a big fan of computers and yet i can't stop watching you enjoying those prehistoric devices, awesome stuff
Damn watching you open that untouched model M keyboard was a moment
ya people at work got quiet when he opened it
I did the same when i got a brand new ps2
did you creme your jeans?
The mention of the IBM factory in Greenock brings back a lot of memories. Not all that far from where I live, first train stop after getting off the ferry in fact. Knew plenty of people who worked at it. unfortunately was reduced to rubble many years ago.
23:39 - I will never forget that sound. And that smell (after opening the case). Childhood memories :)