To answer questions about the Hardcard: as expected, it doesn't work. t.co/GK2oUEfzQJ Every single one of them I've come across are in need of various internal repairs. Hopefully I'll get around to fixing mine up someday, but it'll be a time-consuming and fiddly process that I'm not exactly rushing to get involved in, haha.
I've had a couple that were jammed. I decided to open one of them and see if I could work the bearing loose. I set up a clean booth with filtration, got the cover off, and dropped my screwdriver straight onto the platter. But hey the drive spun afterward.
I never knew the name but I dealt with some of the the generic competitor products in college. We had a lab of CompuAdd 286s with them. When I was there they were developing dead spots on the actuator motor and would get stuck if powered off in the wrong spot. While opening the case and moving the end of the shaft was the better temporary solution, we soon discovered a faster one which was probably not the best solution: raise the front edge of the system up about an inch and drop it, which would jostle it just enough to work.
Clint, Some notes about the machine (the rusty one with the leaked battery): This machine belonged to my father, who worked for a law firm in New York. This would be the reason for the disclaimer notice on startup. It was not his personal machine at work-- according to him, computers for every employee was not the practice yet, and he says the machine was most likely used for word processing. As for what the hardcard was originally connected to, he does not know. Later, in about 1991, the firm sold off the machines to the lawyers for use as personal computers, and my father bought his for practice using computers as well as the installation of Word Perfect which came installed on the machine. This was his first personal computer at home. He says that he remembers installing the modem card himself, and using it for some early internet functions like Compuserve and possibly Prodigy. Also, I am bummed that you were unable to try it with the original amber display that came with it. I had hoped to see that, but regardless, my father and I were very pleased to see you were able to boot up the old hard drive. I did try powering up the motherboard once myself, and I did not see any explosions from the tantalums, but if I remember correctly, I think some of the power supply rail voltages may have been reading incorrectly, so I would assess the power supply to be sure. Thanks!
that is awesome to actually now know from where the PC came from, i hope you are happy at the fact that this machine got to the right hands, because i am sure that this PC would not be used no longer if someone else had it.
Hello Clint, I have pretty crappy hearing and so usually watch TH-cam with subtitles. I really appreciate all the work you put into captioning your videos, rather than relying on auto-generated ones. The in-jokes (excited chirping, clumsy fiddling, cautious laughter) are a wonderful touch.
I've just got really crappy laptop speakers lol, any kind of background noise drowns them out. Although working as a baggage handler at an airport for 3 years certainly did no favours for my hearing especially with the crappy $5 hardware store earmuffs they would give us.
Those was I/O's has bin a standard since even on the IBM 5150 from 1981, so for almost after 40 years (if not already) theres no other change than the socket type for the bus and the tech on the card.
Not for lack of trying. IBM wasn't NEARLY as concerned with keeping things standard as they get credit for. If they had their way, we would've been migrating to MCA around the time this machine was in use, and no doubt would've moved on to three or four other form factors thereafter. In addition to not being overly sentimental about breaking existing standards, IBM also didn't have a real great sense of planning for forward compatibility. The PC's backwards compatibility over the years has been a product of LOTS of hacks (mostly credited to Intel, Phoenix, AMI, Award ... e.g., the A20 gate, virtual x86 mode, transitioning from real to protected mode, and the ever-growing library of BIOS extensions) plus the incredible force of momentum from all the other major and minor players in the market all benefiting from a known quantity to build off of.
Oh my goodness, I hate to say it but I do miss the sounds that your machine is making, it reminds me of the old days when computers were very simple. Thanks Clint!
Love how everyone who has them keeps saying how rare they are, and then casually shows 2 of them :) Lovely machines, but prefer the look and feel of the AT. But always great to see an old IBM restoration process !
And then they proceed to beat the shit out of them and destroy them, greatly devaluing them. Love your vids. you actually do your best to restore machines, rather than beat on them like a mindless ape.
Wow. From my birth year. My dad worked at IBM Germany at this time (30 years in all). Bringing home 'old' Computers from there. Sadly he died 5 month ago
Those stepper motor hard drives make such a distinctive sound, they're recognizable anywhere. At some point, one got sampled into a sound effects collection and you hear it all the time in movies and video games (including Black Mesa, most recently). Every time I hear it, I get this nostalgia flashback as a teenage nerd sitting in front of my dad's Mac Plus in like 1986.
Is it just me or is it simply amazing how this 35+ year old tech just switches on and continues to just chug along. Besides the odd tantalum cap exploding or hard drive failing, most of these old IBMs simply work after setting them up again. Even with these old MFM hard drives I’ve had a decent success rate. Great pieces of engineering.
Computers in general don't wear out from age so much as they become obsolete. The Hardware of most computers if will continue to work so long it isn't subject to unreasonable abuse. Software may need to be reinstalled and unfortunately some of the media it is recorded on does degrade...
@@redmage777 That's mostly true to old equipement that doesn't require cooling, since the most usual failing point is the solder, and when something heats up to 90C then back down to 20 several times a day for years and years, that will kill the joints after a time. So your new shiny Macbook Pro will be in the garbage in a decade tops, while these machines will still work just fine.
@@redmage777 There were some periods like the early nineties (first gen leaky electrolytic SMD caps) and late nineties (bad quality / cheap leaking / bulging electrolytic caps) that gave PC manufacturing a bad rap.
THAT'S THE SOUND!!!! I've been looking for a video of a HDD that sounds like that for AGES! That's exactly what my XT sounded like, I DEEPLY regret selling it.
This brought back so many memories of my IBM XT 8088 as a teenager (which I really wish I could have held on to, but life got in the way). A very impressive restoration. Loading "Wheel of Fortune" was the icing on the cake.
The slow but musical-sounding Seagate ST-225 is one of the most reliable hard drives ever made. But the huge, clunky ST-4038... not so much. I don't think I've ever come across a fully working one. They draw so much power that they like to burn out resistors on their circuit board.
I started my computing life with a Color Computer 3 back in the 80's. I eventually moved up to a 286 machine a lot like the units you used in this video. Man does this bring back memories. I stepped up through the processors by building PC's on the XT and AT chassis'. So many advances in computers have happened since the 80's that it is mind boggling. I'm in my 60's now and still try to keep up with the DIY PC community. It is becoming a dying art because PC's aren't the driving technology for most of the computer systems in the world today. Keep up the good work and I will keep watching.
We have such compatiable all around hardware that is so fast and plays everything... Watching the older hardware and seeing all it took to get it running, the cords, the cards, the connections, all the floppies, even some machines used special ram, it's just so fascinating to watch the process of getting these older machines to run proper
When I was 10/11 I came home from school to find my dad sat in the living room surrounded by these machines. Not a one of them worked! He gave up and gave me a screwdriver and let me have at it. It took me a week of guesswork, stripping and swapping parts before I finally had 2 working machines! And I joined the PC master race and left my poor old Amiga to rot.
AAA Batteries When I was 6/7 I was programming in basic writing basic loops (and I tiny bit of assembler on 8 bit machines in the UK) I wouldn’t call what I did a “fix” I just swapped parts back and forth until I managed to get 2 working! It was rare for my father to let me loose with a screwdriver as I’d gotten an original game boy for Xmas a year or so before and took it apart on Boxing Day! 😂 So I was banned from screwdrivers! In the UK in the 80s computer literacy program was HUGE we got taught basic in Junior school (from 5-11 years old).
AAA Batteries And just for the record, nothing says you can’t fix a computer and eat boogers... they even make a good mini stressball when installing dos for the 28th time because I’d messed up my autoexec without backing it up and didn’t know how to fix it! Hahahahaha
@@aaabatteries9948 Back in the 80's it was common for kids to learn programming early on. When I was 8 I took Basic classes and I cant forget it because the teacher asked us to draw a swastika using the Basic line draw commands. Lol...
The hard disk bring back memories of working a lab full of those machines in the early 1990's I recall playing karateka and doing lotus 123 and Word Perfrect.
I recall the college I worked for the early 1990's. At that time people were doing COBOL and asembly Language for y2k. I used 8088's. with No hard drives. if you used 5 1/4 inch floppy drives hard disks were not as available back then. You were not guaranteed to have a hard disk in the computer that you were sitting at. Networking was rare too. You tubers who own vintage systems today have really pimped them out. If you were lucky you had a hard drive. A good chunk of that time you eather had cga or hurcules graphics and two 360k floppy disk. I do recall using a pc Jr network in the middle school Library . I regret I wasn't able to do COBAL
I dunno if this counts as vintage, but I'm in the midst of building a retro gaming system. As of now I've got an ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition motherboard, an Athlon 64 X2 5200+, 4GB DDR2, and a GT730 (I didn't have anything better and thought I'd at least get decent graphics.) I just lost a hard drive tho, granted it had a long ten years of life. Bought a new one and threw Windows 10 Pro back on it (I was dualbooting with Ubuntu 18.04 LTS before the drive died) and I'm currently setting up all my VMs again.
Forgot to mention I also threw a Creative Sound Blaster PCI CT4810 in there. Not sure what model it is, only reason I installed it in the first place was because my Windows 98SE VM was feeding me errors with the sound driver.
Max 66W. Lol. I miss old stuff. Although it's pretty wild that we can so easily get more than that over USB3 these days. Thanks for documenting all of this awesomeness!
7:58 That's a re-badged AcuMOS AVGA card! Good performers, those! Also, they derive their clock from the ISA bus clock, so they're somewhat overclockable. One of the fastest 16-bit ISA VGA cards made.
Scott Miller No. A ton of people are “essential workers” and cannot work from home. For example what if you work at a store, how will you work from home?
The sound of that keyboard brings back so many memories from working on one in my office back in the lat 80s! You could use that keyboard as a bat'leth!
as a kid who grew up threw the early 2000s, I am starting to miss the sounds of CRT I wonder if I can find a functioning one somewhere in my area, even a small one would work...
Kraft also missed an opportunity later in the mid 1990s with the Macarena. Then again, that might’ve extended the lifespan of that particular song, so perhaps it was for the better that they didn’t.
dude, that Seagate ST-225 sounds wonderful! I don't think any of those have ever failed to this day :). Memories of 1984 come flooding back every time I hear an ST-225 chirp.
when you started both of the systems it sounded like the job center I went to in the early 90's . that unmistakable back ground drone from the power supply's would fill a room fast when you had ten IBM's going at once
[nervous chuckles] [chill reassembly beats] [windows utopia startup sounds] these captions today are golden. i dont know why my were on, but im glad they were.
Back in the day, my friend played that version of Wheel of Fortune so much, he knew all of the answers as soon as they appeared. I think there were only a about 200 puzzles.
OMG!!! that is the first computer I ever built and used when I was 6 years old! Started my love for computers and programming! essentially the icon for my life.. i miss it dearly and I really for the life of me, don't know what ever happened to it... probably one of those "my parents got rid of it" stories.. but more likely is... I built it into my next and left it carelessly somewhere, neglected, while I moved on to the next faster and better one, never to know how meaningful it would turn out to be later in my life.. and I'm sure they probably did throw it out, as knowing how I was... I probably didnt leave it very put together at all, after rummaging it, and Frankensteining it into the next.. I am happy to see this video and feel... sort of... honored I guess, knowing that there are others out there like me who share an interest in these things also. truly amazing!
I don't understand a lot you talk about, but I still like to watch. I like computers, but I'm not knowledgeable about electronics. I bought my first computer in '93 and have loved them ever since.
I'm reminded of when my dad powered up an old full-height scsi hard drive he was testing. It sounded like a prop plane starting up. Womp womp womp womp womp whirr whirr whirrr...
I just started watching your videos not to long ago. This one so far is my favourite. I’ve been into computers since 2000. Self taught. Can be very frustrating at times but in the end if it all works out. That’s the reward. Love seeing these old pc’s still living. Keep up the awesome job. I still have lots to learn. And over learn lots In little time I’ve began watching your videos. And I’ll keep watching as king as you out then out there.
Hi LGR, I found your video of you visiting that computer place in Dallas, I really like how you talk about old shit you find and I can tell you have a passion for sharing your thoughts/opinions/information. I don't delve into stuff that pre-dates the early 90's but I was excited along with you opening these things up and seeing just how easy they are to fix with the large traces, large chips of silicon. I liked listening to the sounds of retro hardware/software, it all sounded like it means business
For that rusted case, look into getting some evapo-rust. They've got a liquid you can immerse things in and a gel you can spread. Does a great job of dissolving away iron corrosion and at least the liquid can be used more than once.
Can I just say that every time one of these videos gets released my hearts skips a beat of happiness and excitement. Something that feels normal and like home in times that absolutely nothing is normal 😂
Oh man, that hard drive chirping takes me back. My very first computer was a PS/2 model 30 with a 20MB HDD, and it made those same noises. Total nostalgia bomb.
Really brings up the memories.. my first computer but with monochrome screen.. Mother bought it for my 11th or 12th birthday, i remember i couldnt get sleep cause of excitement and in the morning straight from bed switching big red button and browsing through Norton Commander playing games like Prince of Persia, Eagle, Street Rod and others. Eventually i start to neglect school and mother locked PC lock and hide keys but i found the way to open it with the casing of a pen. Tnx Clint for your effort reviving those childhood feelings.
Amusingly, at the chip level old computers actually run more efficiently power-wise than the average desktop i5. It's just the awful power factor and efficiency of the power supplies that pumps up the power draw.
Ah, the sound that hard disk makes. In my home there was an IBM Clone with a 386 processor and a 20 MB Hard Drive that sounded just like that. I learned to program on that thing, with GW Basic. I always liked the way the hard disk sounded. Some good memories right there.
So many memories! From the sound of them booting up to the cramped space inside the case. The through hole architecture. The (resulting) physical size of everything. I mean, that disc controller was enormous! It was just so much fun watching this video. Thanks so much!
unbelievable the prices fetching for these, thirty two years ago my work sent fifty of them to the tip when we got brand new 386s, if only we kept them, we'd be rich!
there's something therapeutic (maybe it's just nostalgia) about watching your vdeos. My dad was a small business PC guy back in the late 80s and early 90s. I used to help him build PCs all the time -- as well as working on my own. I remember my custom 286 fondly =).
Great video, my first PC my mate showed me this PC and I offered him my Amiga as a swap he looked at me like I was stupid he agreed and ran out of the house with my Amega I was more than happy because I always wanted a PC and you could get more pro packages wow this brings back memories I think I would love one now for nostalgia
Honestly I crave some over engineering in modern gear, so many things feel flimsy or underwhelming to hold, or break themselves internally due to shooty parts that die from normal usage
@Marginally Sapient Cactus It wasn't on and it's already survived decades of neglect so I don't think it would've hurt to drill through the old screws, as in some cases it will create less mess than a dremmel
Lovely restoration... the XT cleaned up beautifully and runs a champion! I love the simplistic, no-nonsense design of this era of machines... there’s something just so satisfying about the XT/AT/PS2 design and I’d love to build a sleeper in one if I could get a case.
@@mctv6486 Everyone I know has a phone, but I can understand your point because I actually got a BlackBerry like two years ago, and finally upgraded to an LG. Half my family still uses flip phones.
I really kind of miss that old chunky power supply switch. Something so satisfying about flipping those switches and hearing the humm and clicks and beeps of these old PCs coming to life ❤
My first PC!!! Loved it.. We had one in the mid-80's.. It was a XT 286 ran at 16mhz. Had 1HD floppy and 1x360k and a few full-height WD 20mb drives.. I still remember it now..
I only found this channel...correction....this channel only found me a few days ago. These machines are from when I first got into computers, I'm amazed how much stuff I’d forgotten. Fantastic channel.
Oh wow. I haven't seen one of those for so long. Actually used the chassis of one all the way up 'til I built my second 486 and finally bought a tower.
I remember replacing the original 20MB disk on my 286 clone with 100MB - probably paid over $120 for it back in the day I. Jones: " IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM! "
Thanks @LGR i have had XT 286 for 2 years now waiting for project. Now i got it from storage, hit dos bootdisk in and gsetup. everything was working like charm after that... Now waiting for new cmos battery.
Hearing multiple IBM computers humming along at the same time brought back fond memories of the computer lab in grade school for me. Only thing that's missing is lots of keyboard typing and dot matrix printer printing.
I had one of these. It was my very first PC that I bought off someone I worked with in about 1991. Brought back a lot of memories. My Hard Disk made exactly the same noise! Awesome video.
21:26 Have to say, even though I get nostalgic for the "simpler" times of using computers (and by that I mean one still had an idea of what was going on under the hood), I don't really miss the looooong install times.
@Why Tho I like the idea. Got a G4 and a couple of G5 Power Mac cases I'd like to modify like that, but preferably to install something a little cooler than a bog standard Intel or AMD PC. If I had the money to throw around, I'd try it with a Blackbird motherboard, a micro ATX workstation board that takes a Power9 CPU.
To answer questions about the Hardcard: as expected, it doesn't work.
t.co/GK2oUEfzQJ
Every single one of them I've come across are in need of various internal repairs. Hopefully I'll get around to fixing mine up someday, but it'll be a time-consuming and fiddly process that I'm not exactly rushing to get involved in, haha.
Would love to see more on the Hardcard, have never heard of these, keep up the great work.
I've had a couple that were jammed. I decided to open one of them and see if I could work the bearing loose. I set up a clean booth with filtration, got the cover off, and dropped my screwdriver straight onto the platter.
But hey the drive spun afterward.
I never knew the name but I dealt with some of the the generic competitor products in college. We had a lab of CompuAdd 286s with them. When I was there they were developing dead spots on the actuator motor and would get stuck if powered off in the wrong spot. While opening the case and moving the end of the shaft was the better temporary solution, we soon discovered a faster one which was probably not the best solution: raise the front edge of the system up about an inch and drop it, which would jostle it just enough to work.
That's actually kind of sad
Plz scan the Barcode on the backside
Clint,
Some notes about the machine (the rusty one with the leaked battery): This machine belonged to my father, who worked for a law firm in New York. This would be the reason for the disclaimer notice on startup. It was not his personal machine at work-- according to him, computers for every employee was not the practice yet, and he says the machine was most likely used for word processing. As for what the hardcard was originally connected to, he does not know. Later, in about 1991, the firm sold off the machines to the lawyers for use as personal computers, and my father bought his for practice using computers as well as the installation of Word Perfect which came installed on the machine. This was his first personal computer at home. He says that he remembers installing the modem card himself, and using it for some early internet functions like Compuserve and possibly Prodigy.
Also, I am bummed that you were unable to try it with the original amber display that came with it. I had hoped to see that, but regardless, my father and I were very pleased to see you were able to boot up the old hard drive. I did try powering up the motherboard once myself, and I did not see any explosions from the tantalums, but if I remember correctly, I think some of the power supply rail voltages may have been reading incorrectly, so I would assess the power supply to be sure. Thanks!
This comment needs to be higher up! Thanks for sharing!
that is awesome to actually now know from where the PC came from, i hope you are happy at the fact that this machine got to the right hands, because i am sure that this PC would not be used no longer if someone else had it.
thanks for the update and great your Dads still with us. I lost my dad early in 1982 often wish he could see the power today's computers are at
@@Norweeg agree : )
Small world.
Hello Clint, I have pretty crappy hearing and so usually watch TH-cam with subtitles. I really appreciate all the work you put into captioning your videos, rather than relying on auto-generated ones. The in-jokes (excited chirping, clumsy fiddling, cautious laughter) are a wonderful touch.
I've just got really crappy laptop speakers lol, any kind of background noise drowns them out.
Although working as a baggage handler at an airport for 3 years certainly did no favours for my hearing especially with the crappy $5 hardware store earmuffs they would give us.
@@archygrey9093 Haha no way. I'm an aircraft mechanic and that certainly didn't help my earing either
In my case, I'm Brazilian and I don't understand someone speaking English, but I understand the subtitles
Totally agree. The quality of these subtitles is very appreciated.
Adds personality to the video too sometimes
We should take a moment to appreciate how those rear IO plates haven't changed in design at all since 1986.
Truly a case of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
Sadly, the same can't be said for Apple
Those was I/O's has bin a standard since even on the IBM 5150 from 1981, so for almost after 40 years (if not already) theres no other change than the socket type for the bus and the tech on the card.
@@draxoronxztgs1212 This makes me feel old. I was born in 81.... lol My first PC was a 286 16mhz when i was a kid, man how time flys!
Not for lack of trying. IBM wasn't NEARLY as concerned with keeping things standard as they get credit for. If they had their way, we would've been migrating to MCA around the time this machine was in use, and no doubt would've moved on to three or four other form factors thereafter.
In addition to not being overly sentimental about breaking existing standards, IBM also didn't have a real great sense of planning for forward compatibility. The PC's backwards compatibility over the years has been a product of LOTS of hacks (mostly credited to Intel, Phoenix, AMI, Award ... e.g., the A20 gate, virtual x86 mode, transitioning from real to protected mode, and the ever-growing library of BIOS extensions) plus the incredible force of momentum from all the other major and minor players in the market all benefiting from a known quantity to build off of.
Oh my goodness, I hate to say it but I do miss the sounds that your machine is making, it reminds me of the old days when computers were very simple. Thanks Clint!
My wife is deaf and I watch these with her sometimes, your captions {computer loudly whirls to life} is great!
Love how everyone who has them keeps saying how rare they are, and then casually shows 2 of them :) Lovely machines, but prefer the look and feel of the AT. But always great to see an old IBM restoration process !
Says the one with also 2 :p
Check out this lad's channel if you're into old PC restoration videos btw.
yeah, but every time that happens and they restore it, there's one less now
Hey, thanks for watching @RetroSpector78! Your own 5162 videos were an inspiration to finally tackle this project.
And then they proceed to beat the shit out of them and destroy them, greatly devaluing them. Love your vids. you actually do your best to restore machines, rather than beat on them like a mindless ape.
Wow. From my birth year.
My dad worked at IBM Germany at this time (30 years in all). Bringing home 'old' Computers from there. Sadly he died 5 month ago
I'm sorry.
well, be thankful he did what he could to make you happy!
@@Underwatches he fully Suceeded ✌💘
I'm sorry for your loss. My dad died 13 years ago, & I miss him every day. Much love your way.
Much respect to him for all of his good work. 👍👍
It warms my heart to see somebody giving a shit And taking care of older hardware
Yes. So much hardware just got thrown out and left to rot, it always makes me sad.
@@wohlhabendermanagerso many crt monitors were dumped. Rush to new technology then later people miss what they remember. Human nature.
Anyone else find old pc noises and old hard disk noises to be highly satisfying?
Every person that watches LGR does
Like just nearly anything following “Anyone else...”, yes, there are many many people who also find them satisfying.
Had an Amstrad 1512 and 2 Zenith Data Systems running ST225 and ST238R drives back in the day. That chirping brings back memories.
Idk kinda I grew up with Vista and,7
i use them to fall asleep, my old 20gb seagate drive failed many years ago and when i go to sleep i plug it in on my bedside lol
Those stepper motor hard drives make such a distinctive sound, they're recognizable anywhere. At some point, one got sampled into a sound effects collection and you hear it all the time in movies and video games (including Black Mesa, most recently). Every time I hear it, I get this nostalgia flashback as a teenage nerd sitting in front of my dad's Mac Plus in like 1986.
The drive used in those stock sound effects is a Seagate ST225
I caught that Technology Connections reference at 9:07
An Excellent Reference - Chef Excellence.
Spaced Invader ayy ashens reference
that brown video was so mindblowing lol
I thought it was an RCR reference
ah yes references
Is it just me or is it simply amazing how this 35+ year old tech just switches on and continues to just chug along. Besides the odd tantalum cap exploding or hard drive failing, most of these old IBMs simply work after setting them up again. Even with these old MFM hard drives I’ve had a decent success rate. Great pieces of engineering.
MFM drives were like tanks. I could often get ones that were ten years old going again no problem.
Computers in general don't wear out from age so much as they become obsolete. The Hardware of most computers if will continue to work so long it isn't subject to unreasonable abuse. Software may need to be reinstalled and unfortunately some of the media it is recorded on does degrade...
Sectors are so big on those you can drill a hole in the platter and tell the head to just go around and all you loose is 1 bit of data.
@@redmage777 That's mostly true to old equipement that doesn't require cooling, since the most usual failing point is the solder, and when something heats up to 90C then back down to 20 several times a day for years and years, that will kill the joints after a time. So your new shiny Macbook Pro will be in the garbage in a decade tops, while these machines will still work just fine.
@@redmage777 There were some periods like the early nineties (first gen leaky electrolytic SMD caps) and late nineties (bad quality / cheap leaking / bulging electrolytic caps) that gave PC manufacturing a bad rap.
When those two PC's started booting up... I felt like I should hold on to something.
Gotta love ancient PCs that sound like jet engines ready for takeoff xD
I'll give you something to hold on to
Hold on to your butts.
@@StCerberusEngel it's a Unix system - I know this!
Take your protein pills, and your helmet on !
I love the sound of that startup. It seems to say "Hang on to your hat, the engines are reaching FULL POWER"!
like the takeoff of a propeller driven plane..
I remembered when I heard that startup sound when I was in 1st/2nd grade.
like the ABC Warrior booting-up in Judge Dredd
THAT'S THE SOUND!!!! I've been looking for a video of a HDD that sounds like that for AGES! That's exactly what my XT sounded like, I DEEPLY regret selling it.
"Hey newer computer, can you tell me the time and date so I can tell it to this older computer?"
Flerpelnerp: "yes"
Ryan is that an amazon echo he is using or is the a google nest?
I was like ????? I want to know what that is as well. Did he say 'hey affordable nerp?"
Not affordable nerp, Flerblenerp
What's my purpose?
Tell me the time!
LGR: Starts bashing the battery compartment with the screwdriver.
ME: HELL YEAH NOW WE'RE RESTORING!
Percussive Maintenence :)
Just a little tappy, tap, tap.
Reconstruction must be preceded by destruction.
As someone who lives in England, believe me when I say that's the only way to get anything to work in this country.
@@CadillacHobo This Confuser needs a little tappy tap tap, because all the angry pixies flown out of the Batarieas - AvE
I'd love to hear more about those Hard Cards and (hopefully) see one in action in a future LGR Video or Blurb!
Me too!
*BLURB* *MAUUUUUUUU*
Would be fun to try sticking an SSD in one of those Hard Cards. Not really anything practical, but would certainly be fun if possible! :3
@@benh.635 right!
@@EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo In a way the Hard Card does live on with the ISA cards that can hold CF cards and such
I don't even have a particular interest in computers, but I find a lot of your content satisfying, especially this one.
This brought back so many memories of my IBM XT 8088 as a teenager (which I really wish I could have held on to, but life got in the way). A very impressive restoration. Loading "Wheel of Fortune" was the icing on the cake.
Wahoo! I love watching these classic computers get the love they deserve, restoration videos are always welcome!
Yea!
I really like when he replaces the older parts with shiny new ones. E.g. the screws for the floppy disk drive.
@@zanite8650 me too! It's very satisfying
The slow but musical-sounding Seagate ST-225 is one of the most reliable hard drives ever made. But the huge, clunky ST-4038... not so much. I don't think I've ever come across a fully working one. They draw so much power that they like to burn out resistors on their circuit board.
I have a ST-4096 and it works very well. It took a few power cycles to get it to unlock the first time but it hasn't given me any trouble ever since.
Still have my ST-225
@@KameraShy I have one as well. It is in storage along with the mating controller.
It never ceases to amaze how fast Planet X3 is on just about anything under the sun. LOL
I started my computing life with a Color Computer 3 back in the 80's. I eventually moved up to a 286 machine a lot like the units you used in this video. Man does this bring back memories. I stepped up through the processors by building PC's on the XT and AT chassis'. So many advances in computers have happened since the 80's that it is mind boggling. I'm in my 60's now and still try to keep up with the DIY PC community. It is becoming a dying art because PC's aren't the driving technology for most of the computer systems in the world today. Keep up the good work and I will keep watching.
We have such compatiable all around hardware that is so fast and plays everything... Watching the older hardware and seeing all it took to get it running, the cords, the cards, the connections, all the floppies, even some machines used special ram, it's just so fascinating to watch the process of getting these older machines to run proper
When I was 10/11 I came home from school to find my dad sat in the living room surrounded by these machines. Not a one of them worked! He gave up and gave me a screwdriver and let me have at it.
It took me a week of guesswork, stripping and swapping parts before I finally had 2 working machines! And I joined the PC master race and left my poor old Amiga to rot.
when you were 10 u fixed computers? Get out of here you were probably still eating your own boogers.
AAA Batteries When I was 6/7 I was programming in basic writing basic loops (and I tiny bit of assembler on 8 bit machines in the UK) I wouldn’t call what I did a “fix” I just swapped parts back and forth until I managed to get 2 working! It was rare for my father to let me loose with a screwdriver as I’d gotten an original game boy for Xmas a year or so before and took it apart on Boxing Day! 😂 So I was banned from screwdrivers! In the UK in the 80s computer literacy program was HUGE we got taught basic in Junior school (from 5-11 years old).
AAA Batteries And just for the record, nothing says you can’t fix a computer and eat boogers... they even make a good mini stressball when installing dos for the 28th time because I’d messed up my autoexec without backing it up and didn’t know how to fix it! Hahahahaha
@@aaabatteries9948 Back in the 80's it was common for kids to learn programming early on. When I was 8 I took Basic classes and I cant forget it because the teacher asked us to draw a swastika using the Basic line draw commands. Lol...
@@aaabatteries9948 That was not as uncommon as you think. I was programming in assembly language when I was 10.
One of these days were going to witness Clint restore a mainframe
and have them print out "farts" on punch cards
@@jayhill2193 I can already hear him giggle.
Probably AkB.. Tech Tangents first. :-)
Do you already checked courious marc channel?, if not, he and his GENIUS friends restore an IBM 1401, a Xerox Alto, and the Apollo guidance computer.
The hard disk bring back memories of working a lab full of those machines in the early 1990's
I recall playing karateka and doing lotus 123 and Word Perfrect.
WordStar and COBOL ;-)
/ still kinda miss 123
// but not their blasted copy protection
I recall the college I worked for the early 1990's. At that time people were doing COBOL and asembly Language for y2k. I used 8088's. with No hard drives. if you used 5 1/4 inch floppy drives hard disks were not as available back then. You were not guaranteed to have a hard disk in the computer that you were sitting at. Networking was rare too. You tubers who own vintage systems today have really pimped them out. If you were lucky you had a hard drive. A good chunk of that time you eather had cga or hurcules graphics and two 360k floppy disk. I do recall using a pc Jr network in the middle school Library . I regret I wasn't able to do COBAL
I dunno if this counts as vintage, but I'm in the midst of building a retro gaming system. As of now I've got an ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition motherboard, an Athlon 64 X2 5200+, 4GB DDR2, and a GT730 (I didn't have anything better and thought I'd at least get decent graphics.) I just lost a hard drive tho, granted it had a long ten years of life. Bought a new one and threw Windows 10 Pro back on it (I was dualbooting with Ubuntu 18.04 LTS before the drive died) and I'm currently setting up all my VMs again.
Forgot to mention I also threw a Creative Sound Blaster PCI CT4810 in there. Not sure what model it is, only reason I installed it in the first place was because my Windows 98SE VM was feeding me errors with the sound driver.
I ran a software QA lab for a famous but now defunct company. There's nothing like those sounds....
Max 66W. Lol. I miss old stuff. Although it's pretty wild that we can so easily get more than that over USB3 these days. Thanks for documenting all of this awesomeness!
7:58 That's a re-badged AcuMOS AVGA card! Good performers, those! Also, they derive their clock from the ISA bus clock, so they're somewhat overclockable. One of the fastest 16-bit ISA VGA cards made.
I was just thinking this same thing. I have an AcuMos in my ISA video card inventory.
"What day is it? I honestly didn't know.."
You and the rest of us, Clint.." =P
I woke up thinking it was Saturday already. Good thing I work at home!
@@desther7975 Doesn't EVERYBODY these days?
Technically, it's already Saturday.
Scott Miller No. A ton of people are “essential workers” and cannot work from home. For example what if you work at a store, how will you work from home?
>vid starts with subtitles on
>*classy computer repairing music*
....okay, I chuckled at that
The sound of that keyboard brings back so many memories from working on one in my office back in the lat 80s!
You could use that keyboard as a bat'leth!
David Coulter hahaha your comment was appreciated by all the alpha-nerds watching
It sure made me chuckle
I still use on a daily basis :)
I use the IBM Model M keyboard as shown in the video as my daily driver. Really good IBM quality.
Oh, man. Hearing that CRT ring when he powers up the monitor... it's like wince-stalgia.
as a kid who grew up threw the early 2000s, I am starting to miss the sounds of CRT
I wonder if I can find a functioning one somewhere in my area, even a small one would work...
@UNSCPILOT Get one. Nothing like having at least one near you.
The final result is incredibly satisfying. It looks brand new.
I love it when the panel keeps falling down
It looks like someone had merely hot-glued it, and over time the glue dried up and wouldn't hold the panel in place.
Edward Cai oh yees! is diet
"A lot of these are made by Kraft". They missed a huge opportunity by not manufacturing the Mac n' Cheese PC.
Kraft also missed an opportunity later in the mid 1990s with the Macarena.
Then again, that might’ve extended the lifespan of that particular song, so perhaps it was for the better that they didn’t.
Yeah, Project Blue Box got scrapped. A real shame...
@@DavidWonn There was a sceensaver called "Macaroni" where a hole bunch of animated macaroni dancing to the tune of Macarena.
richkawaiipikachu I was unaware this existed. I suspect its popularity peaked around the time of the song ('96?)
the Macintosh n' Cheese
That little Windows Movie Maker cutaway music made me laugh pretty hard
It's from Utopia Windows sound scheme (included first with Windows 95).
LGR's editing has improved significantly
dude, that Seagate ST-225 sounds wonderful! I don't think any of those have ever failed to this day :). Memories of 1984 come flooding back every time I hear an ST-225 chirp.
when you started both of the systems it sounded like the job center I went to in the early 90's . that unmistakable back ground drone from the power supply's would fill a room fast when you had ten IBM's going at once
Subtitles: [Classy Computer repair music]
needs this: [sound of fingers sexily caressing vintage computer hardware]
This Genre exists?
Love Caption Eastereggs on videos. Watched a video where it was english but Australian related and had the aussie lingo as an option lol
Wtf with the subtitles!
[nervous chuckles]
[chill reassembly beats]
[windows utopia startup sounds]
these captions today are golden. i dont know why my were on, but im glad they were.
LGR: does literally everything
That one panel: *bro I’m outta here*
That will be fixed with a good tug and the adhesive that follows
huh that panel was fine by the end?
Gen Z memers, no one will understand...
Back in the day, my friend played that version of Wheel of Fortune so much, he knew all of the answers as soon as they appeared. I think there were only a about 200 puzzles.
OMG!!! that is the first computer I ever built and used when I was 6 years old! Started my love for computers and programming! essentially the icon for my life.. i miss it dearly and I really for the life of me, don't know what ever happened to it... probably one of those "my parents got rid of it" stories.. but more likely is... I built it into my next and left it carelessly somewhere, neglected, while I moved on to the next faster and better one, never to know how meaningful it would turn out to be later in my life.. and I'm sure they probably did throw it out, as knowing how I was... I probably didnt leave it very put together at all, after rummaging it, and Frankensteining it into the next.. I am happy to see this video and feel... sort of... honored I guess, knowing that there are others out there like me who share an interest in these things also. truly amazing!
I don't understand a lot you talk about, but I still like to watch. I like computers, but I'm not knowledgeable about electronics. I bought my first computer in '93 and have loved them ever since.
Laughed out loud @ the Windows Me noise and the Beck graphic from that CLASSIC movie used at 13:23.
There's really nothing better than a 37 minute LGR video on a Friday :D
Amen brother
I wholeheartedly agree
There is. Even LONGER LGR vids! Or more than one!
Not that I'm complaining, though. ;)
I agree ! 😁
I'm reminded of when my dad powered up an old full-height scsi hard drive he was testing. It sounded like a prop plane starting up. Womp womp womp womp womp whirr whirr whirrr...
I just started watching your videos not to long ago. This one so far is my favourite. I’ve been into computers since 2000. Self taught. Can be very frustrating at times but in the end if it all works out. That’s the reward. Love seeing these old pc’s still living. Keep up the awesome job. I still have lots to learn. And over learn lots In little time I’ve began watching your videos. And I’ll keep watching as king as you out then out there.
Hi LGR, I found your video of you visiting that computer place in Dallas, I really like how you talk about old shit you find and I can tell you have a passion for sharing your thoughts/opinions/information. I don't delve into stuff that pre-dates the early 90's but I was excited along with you opening these things up and seeing just how easy they are to fix with the large traces, large chips of silicon. I liked listening to the sounds of retro hardware/software, it all sounded like it means business
For that rusted case, look into getting some evapo-rust. They've got a liquid you can immerse things in and a gel you can spread. Does a great job of dissolving away iron corrosion and at least the liquid can be used more than once.
Can I just say that every time one of these videos gets released my hearts skips a beat of happiness and excitement. Something that feels normal and like home in times that absolutely nothing is normal 😂
13:22 I like that this has become a meme
When the Beck graphic appeared I cracked up
Where is that sound actually from though?
I've definitely heard it before
B E C K
@@thinygamer9408 It's a default Windows sound. The joke is a reference to Clint's previous video.
I almost cried. Hahaha
Oh man, that hard drive chirping takes me back. My very first computer was a PS/2 model 30 with a 20MB HDD, and it made those same noises. Total nostalgia bomb.
Really brings up the memories.. my first computer but with monochrome screen.. Mother bought it for my 11th or 12th birthday, i remember i couldnt get sleep cause of excitement and in the morning straight from bed switching big red button and browsing through Norton Commander playing games like Prince of Persia, Eagle, Street Rod and others. Eventually i start to neglect school and mother locked PC lock and hide keys but i found the way to open it with the casing of a pen. Tnx Clint for your effort reviving those childhood feelings.
LGR turns on two IBMs
Whole city: Did the light just got dimmer or is it me?
My IBM 5150 actually will not run on GFCI circuits
Where we're going we don't care about TDP.
can't be any more power than my 2014 volt takes.
Amusingly, at the chip level old computers actually run more efficiently power-wise than the average desktop i5. It's just the awful power factor and efficiency of the power supplies that pumps up the power draw.
Ironically, they use less power than modern PC's
Clint "I have two of them"
I would expect nothing less sir
> 30 Minutes Later
[Windows ME Music]
heheheh
With a couple frames of BECK
I think that piece of music was a fragment of tetris 4000 by starting a level, then you hear that same music part.
Ah, the sound that hard disk makes. In my home there was an IBM Clone with a 386 processor and a 20 MB Hard Drive that sounded just like that. I learned to program on that thing, with GW Basic. I always liked the way the hard disk sounded. Some good memories right there.
So many memories! From the sound of them booting up to the cramped space inside the case. The through hole architecture. The (resulting) physical size of everything. I mean, that disc controller was enormous! It was just so much fun watching this video. Thanks so much!
unbelievable the prices fetching for these, thirty two years ago my work sent fifty of them to the tip when we got brand new 386s, if only we kept them, we'd be rich!
ibm was probably using overstock of xt cases up to make these "bargin" 286's
That's a popular theory, actually! It's never been proven though.
@@LGR I was at IBM in the late 80s, on the PC (or by that time mostly PS/2) side of things. Nobody there has ever been able to explain this one to me.
"Hey Alexa, i've decided to that your name is now Flerpelnerp"
Flerpelnerp: D:
Sporetrix disk failure in the old pc version
its one way to stop viewers alexas go off
not sure, but this may well be an old english word for some weird middle-age concept.
there's something therapeutic (maybe it's just nostalgia) about watching your vdeos. My dad was a small business PC guy back in the late 80s and early 90s. I used to help him build PCs all the time -- as well as working on my own. I remember my custom 286 fondly =).
Great video, my first PC my mate showed me this PC and I offered him my Amiga as a swap he looked at me like I was stupid he agreed and ran out of the house with my Amega I was more than happy because I always wanted a PC and you could get more pro packages wow this brings back memories I think I would love one now for nostalgia
Aaahhhhh a relaxing video with a cup of tea, thank you Clint!
IBM build quality in the 80s was just something else, talk about 'over-engineered' !!
Honestly I crave some over engineering in modern gear, so many things feel flimsy or underwhelming to hold, or break themselves internally due to shooty parts that die from normal usage
flat head screw : disintegrates
LGR : Ok let's take the allen driver
Allen part of the screw : *DISINTEGRATES*
LGR with the angle grinder: You're coming off. _That's not a request._
@Marginally Sapient Cactus It wasn't on and it's already survived decades of neglect so I don't think it would've hurt to drill through the old screws, as in some cases it will create less mess than a dremmel
@@suborbitalprocess [scene missing] Okay, we'll take that off later.
he could also just disintegrate the rest of the screw.
@@HappyBeezerStudios the rust extended to the bottom case so he's gonna have a bad time removing the power supply
WOW Hearing that Wheel of Fortune start-up music instantly took me back to being a kid!!! Thank you for that.
Lovely restoration... the XT cleaned up beautifully and runs a champion! I love the simplistic, no-nonsense design of this era of machines... there’s something just so satisfying about the XT/AT/PS2 design and I’d love to build a sleeper in one if I could get a case.
Everyone else: "Gotta wash my dishes in the sink."
LGR: "Gotta wash my IBM in the sink, with slow sensual music."
The Noir sound track goes with the tobacco residue on the one cover.
i wonder what would happen if you call microsoft tech support about windows 3.1
@Jeffery Amherst im 14 aint got no phone
Anybody knows the song at 19:30?
@@mctv6486 Everyone I know has a phone, but I can understand your point because I actually got a BlackBerry like two years ago, and finally upgraded to an LG. Half my family still uses flip phones.
That hard drive needs to put out a mixtape. 🔥
"Hey Flerpelnerp"
...excuse me?
:::Flerpelnerp Answers::
...k
how do you set that up?
@@troyBORG Yea I'd like to know what that is and how to do that as well.
@@stevenA44 Google home lets u call it whatever u want vs Alexa wont listen to anything you ask.
@@Grimm-Gaming Well, looks like I'm going to have to get me a Google Home then! My Alexa is dumb as hell sometimes! LOL
@@stevenA44 Same thats y i disabled it on my Sonos soundbar
I really kind of miss that old chunky power supply switch. Something so satisfying about flipping those switches and hearing the humm and clicks and beeps of these old PCs coming to life ❤
I watch these old build and repair videos and glad we’re no longer there. You needed documentation for everything and it was cumbersome.
Damn 1991, remind me a lot of my middle school years, playing those late 80s - early 90s dos pc games with 286 IBM compatible machine 😎✌️
I just watched one of your videos. AOL and it reminded me of something.....
You should do an episode on the old Microsoft web TV!
24:10 sounds like a Black Mesa laboratory (from Half-Life lol)
Immediately what I thought as well
Starfals Oh yes, totally.
Nice catch! Maybe they literally took the sound from the IBM?
Nice catch indeed!
Sounds more like the one heard in its remake counterpart Black Mesa.
My first PC!!! Loved it.. We had one in the mid-80's.. It was a XT 286 ran at 16mhz. Had 1HD floppy and 1x360k and a few full-height WD 20mb drives.. I still remember it now..
I only found this channel...correction....this channel only found me a few days ago. These machines are from when I first got into computers, I'm amazed how much stuff I’d forgotten. Fantastic channel.
Thanks Mark, happy to be found!
It's 2 in the morning, and I am watching Clint wash his cases in the sink.
Now every time I hear that sound at 13:23, I think of that goofy video with the kid crawling through the tube (and Beck).
Same 😂
2:57 the top one has the GS badge from the German TÜV. Geprüfte Sicherheit = checked security
Good restore job. I remember playing that exact wheel of fortune game back in the 80's. Ah the good old days.
Oh wow. I haven't seen one of those for so long. Actually used the chassis of one all the way up 'til I built my second 486 and finally bought a tower.
that hard drive looks like it would survive reentry into the Earth's atmosphere
I had one of those exploding at me a few days ago. Tantalum capacitor...
I remember replacing the original 20MB disk on my 286 clone with 100MB - probably paid over $120 for it back in the day
I. Jones: " IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM! "
Old Seagates are the bomb. I swear they will run forever if you treat them nice.
It could kill an elephant.
@@kingneutron1 What did you need so much capacity for?
3:41 My actual reaction when anything goes wrong on my computer.
I've never seen one of these in person, but seeing it in your sink and next to your arm really shows how massive this thing was.
Thanks @LGR i have had XT 286 for 2 years now waiting for project. Now i got it from storage, hit dos bootdisk in and gsetup. everything was working like charm after that... Now waiting for new cmos battery.
Soon as video start, hears first LGR Foods music. Gets confused as to why I'm hungry, except looking at vintage pc
Teasing us hardcore
"I like the way it snaps." Spoken like a true killer
Not to mention the way he chuckles in every video, lol
The Navy bought 10's of thousands of those. I remember them well.
Hearing multiple IBM computers humming along at the same time brought back fond memories of the computer lab in grade school for me. Only thing that's missing is lots of keyboard typing and dot matrix printer printing.
I had one of these. It was my very first PC that I bought off someone I worked with in about 1991. Brought back a lot of memories.
My Hard Disk made exactly the same noise!
Awesome video.
21:26 Have to say, even though I get nostalgic for the "simpler" times of using computers (and by that I mean one still had an idea of what was going on under the hood), I don't really miss the looooong install times.
Damn, 20 seconds after release! For some reason, I want to put some high end hardware in that case for a sleeper. :D
Been on my mind since my first LGR hardware restoration vid.
I put a homeless apple IIe in one.
@Why Tho I like the idea. Got a G4 and a couple of G5 Power Mac cases I'd like to modify like that, but preferably to install something a little cooler than a bog standard Intel or AMD PC. If I had the money to throw around, I'd try it with a Blackbird motherboard, a micro ATX workstation board that takes a Power9 CPU.
Ah, HDD Instant Type 2. The good stuff.
wow, that classic boot up sounds, those fans, the hard drives clicking and chirping...brings back warm fuzzies from my youth.
beautiful startup sounds. the floppy sound especially gave me huge nostalgia.