I ended up rerouting through a rubber grommet in the firewall. It’s much better this way. The grommet is directly behind the glove box and can be felt by reaching up from the passenger side on the firewall. It’s a much better fit this way.
Thank you for the extra 'small' details - like using your drill on "1" for small screws. For those like me, with zero experience, but wanting to learn & do it myself - these are "golden nuggets". I just learned so much about the electrical system, my battery, my ecoflow - and the hows & whys. Much appreciated!! ❤
Wow, this review of the alternator charger is the best yet. The two points or suggestions for improvements are excellent. I will hold off on purchasing this product until ecoflow makes these changes and improves the unit further.
It seems to scale based on voltage, and if you think about it, it makes perfect sense. If your alternator can’t keep up with the load, voltage will drop, so the EcoFlow lowers its charge rate. I bet when you put in the newer alternator, you get a full 800w, unless your car battery is bad.
It’s good to know it is recommended for a high output alternator to prevent premature wearing out. Adding in that new tow rated alternator is a smart move.
Best most thorough review yet for the alternator charger! You could also try the Pecron smart car charger (i got mine for $134) that works with any brand power station. No smart app but you can set set the starting voltage in 0.5 volt increments (between 12 and 14 volts, or 24 to 28 volts for a 24 volt system) and it outputs via MC-4 connectors. It is 500 watt but offers no ability to reverse charge the car battery, but for $134, it is quite a bit cheaper than a piece meal approach and comes with all the cables and fuses.
@@Niravata Does the EcoFlow Delta have solar input? That's a yes. Does it accept solar via MC4 connector yes, but you do have to buy the cable at $24. So, any power station that accepts solar via MC4 connectors the Pecron will work with.
$80 for 12 to 48v converter, $50 #4 wire, $40 terminal fuses, and a battery disconnect switch and I have 685 watts going into my Anker 767 in the backseat. I love this idea, but seems very pricey
@dany8822 That's a great find!! I love my setup, but I definitely miss the bluetooth capability for monitoring and battery protection. I had to wire in a starter solenoid to prevent charging until the truck is running.
Yes, you do pay for more for a simpler, fully integrated design, simple installation and additional capabilities. DIY with cheaper components is always an option, but after a $200 discount, I find this to a very nice piece of equipment to enhance my Ecoflow setup. The quality, down to the armored vehicle cable, is impressive.
I bought one for my grand cherokee and it works very well. I also have the wave 2 with it own battery and a delta 2, not the max. What i do is connect the alternator charger to the delta 2 and the wave 2 to its own battery. To charge the wave 2 battery, i do it by ac cable from the delta 2. This way, both batteries can be used and charged at the same time without need to disconect and conect again. If you connect the delta to the wave 2 thru the dc port, the wave 2 battery is not connected and can't be used. I just bought the wave 3 plus, and I will charge using ac from delta 2 and charge wave 2 from delta 3 ac.
We went thru this alternator overload thing when lithium found its way into B and B+ vans thousands and thousands of alternators failed. Unless you have a HD alternator or dual alternators they will soon all fail from heat related winding and bearing problems. You can't just add on 800 watts from a stock alternator and expect it to work. Mike
Yep.. not a great idea to use these regularly at their highest capacity, but dialing it back somewhat to ~300-600W can reduce or eliminate heat/load-based issues.. especially if you're not just letting the vehicle idle to run it. Lower engine speed + stationary = higher residual heat, plus most alternators' cooling fins are in sync with engine RPM. Pulling 800W from most alternators when idle, things get spicy.
if you want it to shut off when the car is off make the voltage 13v in the app; so when it gets to 12v(normal) it shuts off. keeping it at 12v it wont shut off until it goes below 12v. as long as your battery can push out 12v the unit will say " ok.. you set it to 12v... your battery is giving me 12v... so im gonna stay on" Reply
KirbyLouis is right. It is NOT an excellent point that he makes in the video. It's wrong. You want to set the cut off much higher than 12V because you want the dc2dc charger to come on only when the alternator delivers it 14.4V and close down when there's "only" 13V, for example
This thing has been catching my eye, for the use cases that do not involve a vehicle, so my antenna kind of went on high alert as soon as you mentioned the adapter coming out for the “non Delta” range, especially after seeing examples of use cases in Hobotech’s video, EcoFlow is brilliant, I definitely have a soft spot for them, I consciously chose their year old River 2 (refurbished with 5 year warranty) over Bluetti’s AC2A
if you want it to shut off when the car is off make the voltage 13v in the app; so when it gets to 12v(normal) it shuts off. keeping it at 12v it wont shut off until it goes below 12v. as long as your battery can push out 12v the unit will say " ok.. you set it to 12v... your battery is giving me 12v... so im gonna stay on"
The main benefit of those ecoflow devices is the all-in-one form factor. The moment you need to wire this thing in, you may as well do a dual battery setup.
I don't know if this is easy on a jeep but on a lot of toyotas there is a fuse box hack to make the alternator push 14.2-14.7v. That should solve your problem.
There is a clear setting that can switch the dc2dc unit off when the alternator isn't running, so you're waiting for something that's already fixed, because it was never wrong in the first place. The reviewer is just mixing things up, unfortunately.
Daygreen and Pecron have dc to dc converters that are way less exoensive that do the sane thing. If you need app support Victron has a 12-24V dc to dc charger that works on Bluetti, Econflow and several other power stations.
@@SpartanOverlandAdventures This is the one I have been using for 4 years under my hood. I don’t want to hijack the comments but I have some videos and know a lot about them from actual use. 100% flawless.
@@whitmorestrains Appreciate the info. I'm not seeing any link and would love to have it. I'm in the process of putting together an overlanding setup with a EcoFlow Delta Max, and likely a 200ah or 300ah extra battery that I want to have a good fast charge setup for. The EcoFlow Alternator looks great but man that's costly at $500+. TH-cam might not allow a link, but I would love the part number
if you want it to shut off when the car is off make the voltage 13v in the app; so when it gets to 12v(normal) it shuts off. keeping it at 12v it wont shut off until it goes below 12v. as long as your battery can push out 12v the unit will say " ok.. you set it to 12v... your battery is giving me 12v... so im gonna stay on" Reply
If your vehicle is running shouldn't the alternator be putting out 13v or higher? So if you left setting on the app at 13v it shouldn't be pulling power from vehicle battery when not running....am i wrong?
old school alternators put out a constant 14.5 volts so it would work like that. but modern vehicles have smart alternators that lower the voltage of the alternator while accelerating making the gas efficiency better, and when you are braking it uses the engine power to increase voltage on alternator and charge the batteries. kinda like how a hybrid uses braking to put the power into the battery. So for modern vehicles sometimes it would run under 13v. it can be as low as 12.5v when the car is running. This would easily be solvable if they allow you to fine tune the on off voltage in the app by 0.1 increments. that way you can find the perfect sweet spot for your setup.
@@conradcoolerfiend got one today, updated and it at least now has option for 0.5 increments. We should write to them to give us 0.1 option ! Almost every car gives a 12.5/6/7 V with smart BMS :/
so, is your overlanding adventure about playing with the app, or relaxing with your friends and family once you set up the camp and not to worry about your electric gear?
Adding a battery isolator between the vehicle battery and the alternator charger would mitigate your concern with overdrawing your vehicle battery without to wait if/when EcoFlow updates the software.
@@tribalsean No specific model. But there are many 12v isolator relays designed for auxiliary batteries. They are one way pass through that don’t allow back feeding. The only issue would be you couldn’t use the built in jump box feature. But a small 12v jump box is cheap and easy to store. Not losing your car battery is a higher priority.
@@JustMitchell17 ..awesome. makes sense and great to know, thank you. I just watched a pretty informative video that a lot better explains this cool new charger. check out Hobotech, vid title< FAST CHARGE your ecoflow.... thank you very much for responding. have a smooth week and better weekend when you get to it. keep on keepin on
Sorry to be dunce but if you don’t have the unit plugged into the power station, you wouldn’t be drawing anything from the starter battery if engine is turned off?
So it's better if you change your Negative to the chassis, instead of the battery (alternator its connected first to the car body and its connected to battery from the body with another cable) and keep at 13 volts. And it's annoying that it don't came with the xt60I.
This would easily be solvable if they allow you to fine tune the on off voltage in the app by 0.1v increments. that way you can find the perfect sweet spot for your setup.
Great video , just like to comment on the power from the alternator / car battery , at 760 watts at13volts that drawing 58 amps thats a lot of current! what is the capacity of the alternator ? you could overload the alternator, some of the power may come from the battery at the same time so the load is shared between the two, on my eco delta on solar in bright sun Iget 42 volts at 7 amps they are 2 x 150 watt panels , the question is how long can the alternator sustain this kind of load, a lower charging rate would do the job on a long drive to fully re charge and bear in mind that the eco may not be totally discharged anyway , so will only need to top up!
Hello, I have one Delta Pro and no extra batteries. Can I use this charger and the EF Dual Fuel Generator at the same time, using both battery ports and two XT150 adapters?
I have just purchased one of these Alternator Chargers. I get 800W even at idle and when I turn off the engine it stops charging. The most annoying thing for me is that there is no way, possibly via a Y cable to charge the Delta 2 and the Delta 2 Smart Extra battery. Other than that I am super happy with it but I am trying to figure a way to charge both batteries without fiddling to disconnect and reconnect.
I just purchased the Ecoflow Delta 3 Plus with the 800w Alternator Charger. I didn’t think of this until I was sleeping, I have a 2007 Toyota Hybrid. Is this charging system going to interfere with the hybrid system. I have a regular battery setup, seems like a simple solution to solar panels. I live in Florida and want a plug and go when a hurricane strikes. Thanks
It is not so much the battery damage you need to worry about. According to Scotty Kilmer (TH-cam channel of 50+ year auto mechanic), the alternators are designed specifically for the electrical system of specific cars -- and adding a separate electrical system to charge will eventually lead to prematurely wearing out the alternator and possibly worse yet damaging your car's microprocessors (very expensive repairs).
@@jwfmechanical9864 I'm pretty sure people that buy into this cheap marketing have money to waste. They will just buy another car and another set of ecoflow crap without knowing what hit them in first place.
I’ve seen the whole video and my honest opinion is I love the product and I love the AC unit, I just don’t like Ecoflow as much as I like bluetti so if you can use it for any power station like if I can use it for my bluetti, then I would buy it in a heartbeat
Great video. I’ve give a 2019 Jeep Cherokee 3.2 with the towing package. Do you think it has a large enough alternator to run the 800w? My Delta 2 will be here Tuesday. Also I’m hoping I can use the 800w to charge my Delta 2 during a power outage. Can I leave my Jeep idling in the driveway to charge it or do I have to drive around? Much appreciate your info and advice.
I'm confused! I thought new Jeeps have switches that you can route things to like lights and winches too. So instead of connecting that device directly to the battery connected to one of those switches, then when you're driving down the road on a long trip you flip the switch and your Delta gets charged. Then if you stop for gas or to take a dump you flip the switch it stops charging your Delta and you don't have to worry about coming off the crapper for the dead battery
I would not have known I needed and upgraded alternator, really appreciate this. On another note, how hot does it get, was planning on mounting it behind the backseat of a Tacoma?
Not completely necessary, I haven’t had issues with the setup. Also, the charger uses GaN Prime which is very resilient to high heat. This is also one of the reasons the thing costs more than other chargers. It feels as warm to the touch as a laptop charger.
Hey, you mentioned on the video that they will be coming up with an xt60i adaptor this summer. where did you find that information I own a Delta, and I'm hoping for it to be compatible with it with this adapter
I could be wrong, as it has been known to happen. But, I believe you are setting the starting point, for it to charge, in the wrong direction. You only want the unit to kick on "start charging" when it senses the voltage coming into the unit is above the normal voltage of a battery, i.e. over 12.8V and in this case 13V and above. That way the unit will not try to charge anything unless it receives 13V or higher. Please provide us with an update. Thank you, Tony
Can you connect this to the Bluetti account 200l If you cut the wire and put the Bluetti connectors on the eco flow would it be charching the Bluetti powerbank
i know that this device will not draw charging amperage when below the set voltage, but im curious about the parasitic draw when its left powered on when the vehicle is off.
To me this would be perfect only if it charged while the vehicle was running only. The fact that it still pulls from the starter battery after the vehicle is shut off is a NO GO for me. I only want to use excess power and I do not want to use any of my starter battery power when vehicle is not running. It is much more important to me that my battery is maintained and can start my vehicle then it is that my battery pack gets charged. I will admit that it is slick how it can reverse the power though. I like that idea.
Hello, read all the coments and still cant confirm- is it posible to adjust/limit the charging imput? to lets say constant 300-400w withouth the "automatic" sensing? thanks in advance
That negative should go to chassis ground. Also for 70-80 Amps the cables are too small IMO. I use Victron DC to DC. The price is way better and you can charge any power station with it. But for plug and play I guess if you want to spend the money, 🤷♂️
This product is dangerous; especially in the way it is being sold, advertised, and marketed. Lots of people are going to blow up their alternators and batteries because of the misinformed influencers marketing this product on TH-cam. I appreciate your review compared to what I've seen so far. You highlight the major flaws of this product in an honest and genuine way.
He is referring to over working your alternator and rendering your charging system unless. Potentially stranding yourself in the process. Not all alternatornators are created equal. The Ecoflow charger will overload the electrical system if your alternator is not rated for the amp usage. Adjusting the output wattage on the charger and knowing correct formula is going to be paramount.
Yeah…I don’t think so. Unless you have a low power “dumb (old)” alternator, if your alternator can’t keep up with demand, you’re going to get a voltage drop. This is why the device was pulling a lower wattage when he had it set to 13v. Lowing the voltage setting that he was is telling it that it’s normal for his voltage to be that low, thus is going to draw more…
Why would you need 800W charger for overlanding? 30-40A charger is sufficient for such purpose. People typically explore the area by driving at least 3-4hrs, which is enough to charge your power station. With such a small draw you don't destroy your alternator and you don't have to spend more money on bigger alternator. I have spent $50 on 30A system (12-24V DC-DC converter built by local company), which charges my Delta 2 in 4hrs. It is hooked up to my gang switch via relay, so it won't drain my starting battery once the ignition is off. For the jump starting scenario I have a small power bank, which I can use for many different things. Unless you have a huge rig with 3kW+ batteries this charger is pointless and its price point is ridiculous comparing to other options you have on the market. You can get Victron Orion for much less.
Warning, your being sold a device that will 100% at least damage if not destroy your expensive alternater. Why do you think some pick up trucks offer two alternatives that have extra load devices. Stay clear!
And how will this "destroy" your alternator? I have one installed in my '17 Tacoma, and charging the Delta 2. The unit only uses excess available power to charge with. If for instance, if I had a ton of exterior lights running, stereo amp cranking, etc.... it will dial down the available wattage accordingly to accommodate the alternator's output. It won't continue to stress the alternator to maintain the watts you have selected in the app. The unit favors the alternator over the charge function to work in harmony.
what a silly use case. Why would you need to buy a powerstream when you can charge your delta powerstation straight from your 12v Car cigaret lighter port additionally if it is to power a camper then using the Powerstream which has a 800w output power limit is totally pointless if your loads are over a kw. Maybe you should detail your use case before doing a video of a Powerstream which was aimed at the residential market
Turning OFF the ignition should stop all charging and in fact you could wire it that way, so only on ignition/car running the charger can start charging, the problem is you wired it stright to both battery terminal's! Seems to be a USER error as thats surley not how the install instructions would have diagramed it?
I know it's fun playing with electronic gadgets for power. But to my mind it's Overkill. Just think about all the extra gas and space you're wasting hauling around solar panels. Trying to get a little juice out of them or idling your car to recharge your lithium batteries, adding more weight to your vehicle not counting all the money these gadgets and batteries cost. To where a simple, quiet running portable generator can give you all the power you need anywhere anytime for little cost. They could run on gas or propane and take up very little space.
Almost perfect at over $500? Step away from the crack pipe there's so many workarounds to do this if not as well for quite good enough for a tiny little fraction of that cost
Sure would help if you would of showed how you rout the cable though the cowling from the inside.
I ended up rerouting through a rubber grommet in the firewall. It’s much better this way. The grommet is directly behind the glove box and can be felt by reaching up from the passenger side on the firewall. It’s a much better fit this way.
Thank you for the extra 'small' details - like using your drill on "1" for small screws. For those like me, with zero experience, but wanting to learn & do it myself - these are "golden nuggets". I just learned so much about the electrical system, my battery, my ecoflow - and the hows & whys. Much appreciated!! ❤
Wow, this review of the alternator charger is the best yet. The two points or suggestions for improvements are excellent. I will hold off on purchasing this product until ecoflow makes these changes and improves the unit further.
Thanks!
It seems to scale based on voltage, and if you think about it, it makes perfect sense. If your alternator can’t keep up with the load, voltage will drop, so the EcoFlow lowers its charge rate.
I bet when you put in the newer alternator, you get a full 800w, unless your car battery is bad.
Best review of this product I've seen. Great look at all the usage scenarios.
It’s good to know it is recommended for a high output alternator to prevent premature wearing out. Adding in that new tow rated alternator is a smart move.
Best everyday Joe video I’ve seen about this. You rock bro. 🎸
Thank you, that was excellent explanation for the product. It really helped me to make sure that this is what I need
Best most thorough review yet for the alternator charger! You could also try the Pecron smart car charger (i got mine for $134) that works with any brand power station. No smart app but you can set set the starting voltage in 0.5 volt increments (between 12 and 14 volts, or 24 to 28 volts for a 24 volt system) and it outputs via MC-4 connectors. It is 500 watt but offers no ability to reverse charge the car battery, but for $134, it is quite a bit cheaper than a piece meal approach and comes with all the cables and fuses.
Yes, maybe, but obviously it doesn't work with an EcoFlow Delta unit, so you should have mentioned that and not just throw some other name around.
@@Niravata Does the EcoFlow Delta have solar input? That's a yes. Does it accept solar via MC4 connector yes, but you do have to buy the cable at $24. So, any power station that accepts solar via MC4 connectors the Pecron will work with.
If you have the "right" Ecoflo, this unit is hard to beat. Size. Function. Simplicity.
Which one
Love how they got me with the Wave 2 bundle on memorial day and cant even use the alternator charger...
Why is that?
You mean like you can't plug the add-on battery right into the alternator charger?
$80 for 12 to 48v converter, $50 #4 wire, $40 terminal fuses, and a battery disconnect switch and I have 685 watts going into my Anker 767 in the backseat. I love this idea, but seems very pricey
I found a $200 off code which made it a much better price when I bought it. For anyone looking to buy it, look for any discount code online first.
@dany8822 That's a great find!! I love my setup, but I definitely miss the bluetooth capability for monitoring and battery protection. I had to wire in a starter solenoid to prevent charging until the truck is running.
Yes, you do pay for more for a simpler, fully integrated design, simple installation and additional capabilities. DIY with cheaper components is always an option, but after a $200 discount, I find this to a very nice piece of equipment to enhance my Ecoflow setup. The quality, down to the armored vehicle cable, is impressive.
It is for the Ecoflo family. Nobody else.
@@henrymorgan3982 Can't argue with that since it would seem they use all proprietary connectors
13:40 I could see using an extra nut to connect wires to battery instead of loosening existing nuts, especially for non-permanent use.
I bought one for my grand cherokee and it works very well. I also have the wave 2 with it own battery and a delta 2, not the max. What i do is connect the alternator charger to the delta 2 and the wave 2 to its own battery. To charge the wave 2 battery, i do it by ac cable from the delta 2. This way, both batteries can be used and charged at the same time without need to disconect and conect again. If you connect the delta to the wave 2 thru the dc port, the wave 2 battery is not connected and can't be used. I just bought the wave 3 plus, and I will charge using ac from delta 2 and charge wave 2 from delta 3 ac.
Sounds like a great idea! Do you have a picture of what you have done?
We went thru this alternator overload thing when lithium found its way into B and B+ vans thousands and thousands of alternators failed. Unless you have a HD alternator or dual alternators they will soon all fail from heat related winding and bearing problems. You can't just add on 800 watts from a stock alternator and expect it to work. Mike
Yep.. not a great idea to use these regularly at their highest capacity, but dialing it back somewhat to ~300-600W can reduce or eliminate heat/load-based issues.. especially if you're not just letting the vehicle idle to run it. Lower engine speed + stationary = higher residual heat, plus most alternators' cooling fins are in sync with engine RPM. Pulling 800W from most alternators when idle, things get spicy.
I like spicy. 🌶️ But my alternator runs on weak sauce. 😕
You did a great informative yet simplistic review. Thanks.
22:35 Excellent point. Along with many others. Well done!
if you want it to shut off when the car is off make the voltage 13v in the app; so when it gets to 12v(normal) it shuts off. keeping it at 12v it wont shut off until it goes below 12v. as long as your battery can push out 12v the unit will say " ok.. you set it to 12v... your battery is giving me 12v... so im gonna stay on"
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KirbyLouis is right. It is NOT an excellent point that he makes in the video. It's wrong. You want to set the cut off much higher than 12V because you want the dc2dc charger to come on only when the alternator delivers it 14.4V and close down when there's "only" 13V, for example
This thing has been catching my eye, for the use cases that do not involve a vehicle, so my antenna kind of went on high alert as soon as you mentioned the adapter coming out for the “non Delta” range, especially after seeing examples of use cases in Hobotech’s video, EcoFlow is brilliant, I definitely have a soft spot for them, I consciously chose their year old River 2 (refurbished with 5 year warranty) over Bluetti’s AC2A
if you want it to shut off when the car is off make the voltage 13v in the app; so when it gets to 12v(normal) it shuts off. keeping it at 12v it wont shut off until it goes below 12v. as long as your battery can push out 12v the unit will say " ok.. you set it to 12v... your battery is giving me 12v... so im gonna stay on"
The main benefit of those ecoflow devices is the all-in-one form factor. The moment you need to wire this thing in, you may as well do a dual battery setup.
I don't know if this is easy on a jeep but on a lot of toyotas there is a fuse box hack to make the alternator push 14.2-14.7v. That should solve your problem.
It's clearly not about the Voltage level, so your comment doesn't really make sense.
Thanks for the honest review pulling power from the battery when the car is off is not good , once they fix that I will buy one .
There is a clear setting that can switch the dc2dc unit off when the alternator isn't running, so you're waiting for something that's already fixed, because it was never wrong in the first place. The reviewer is just mixing things up, unfortunately.
Daygreen and Pecron have dc to dc converters that are way less exoensive that do the sane thing.
If you need app support Victron has a 12-24V dc to dc charger that works on Bluetti, Econflow and several other power stations.
They do...a bit less power delivery but at a fraction of the price. They Pecron is a nice option but only 500W
Daygreen units can be stacked and they also have a 1500w version. Unlike this, they can be installed outside/under the hood.
@@whitmorestrains that sounds really intriguing. Links to the Daygreens? I’m not familiar with that one
@@SpartanOverlandAdventures This is the one I have been using for 4 years under my hood. I don’t want to hijack the comments but I have some videos and know a lot about them from actual use. 100% flawless.
@@whitmorestrains Appreciate the info. I'm not seeing any link and would love to have it. I'm in the process of putting together an overlanding setup with a EcoFlow Delta Max, and likely a 200ah or 300ah extra battery that I want to have a good fast charge setup for. The EcoFlow Alternator looks great but man that's costly at $500+. TH-cam might not allow a link, but I would love the part number
Definitely need more control on the minimum voltage. Great video. Thanks!
I completely agree with the voltage increments. It also seems like it should be easy for them to change via a software update.
if you want it to shut off when the car is off make the voltage 13v in the app; so when it gets to 12v(normal) it shuts off. keeping it at 12v it wont shut off until it goes below 12v. as long as your battery can push out 12v the unit will say " ok.. you set it to 12v... your battery is giving me 12v... so im gonna stay on"
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If your vehicle is running shouldn't the alternator be putting out 13v or higher? So if you left setting on the app at 13v it shouldn't be pulling power from vehicle battery when not running....am i wrong?
old school alternators put out a constant 14.5 volts so it would work like that. but modern vehicles have smart alternators that lower the voltage of the alternator while accelerating making the gas efficiency better, and when you are braking it uses the engine power to increase voltage on alternator and charge the batteries. kinda like how a hybrid uses braking to put the power into the battery. So for modern vehicles sometimes it would run under 13v. it can be as low as 12.5v when the car is running. This would easily be solvable if they allow you to fine tune the on off voltage in the app by 0.1 increments. that way you can find the perfect sweet spot for your setup.
@@conradcoolerfiend oh now I see... kinda like prius brake charging. I learned something new. Thanks.
@@conradcoolerfiend got one today, updated and it at least now has option for 0.5 increments. We should write to them to give us 0.1 option ! Almost every car gives a 12.5/6/7 V with smart BMS :/
13:31 - Hey y’all positive terminal first right?
The great thing about this is you can keep track of everything on ecoflow app and auto shut off to keep from overcharging to protect the equipment.
so, is your overlanding adventure about playing with the app, or relaxing with your friends and family once you set up the camp and not to worry about your electric gear?
Adding a battery isolator between the vehicle battery and the alternator charger would mitigate your concern with overdrawing your vehicle battery without to wait if/when EcoFlow updates the software.
I was wondering this, and thinking of some kind of cut off. .. Do you recommend a certain type of isolator for this application?
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No specific model. But there are many 12v isolator relays designed for auxiliary batteries. They are one way pass through that don’t allow back feeding.
The only issue would be you couldn’t use the built in jump box feature. But a small 12v jump box is cheap and easy to store. Not losing your car battery is a higher priority.
@@JustMitchell17 ..awesome. makes sense and great to know, thank you.
I just watched a pretty informative video that a lot better explains this cool new charger. check out Hobotech, vid title< FAST CHARGE your ecoflow....
thank you very much for responding. have a smooth week and better weekend when you get to it. keep on keepin on
Sorry to be dunce but if you don’t have the unit plugged into the power station, you wouldn’t be drawing anything from the starter battery if engine is turned off?
So it's better if you change your Negative to the chassis, instead of the battery (alternator its connected first to the car body and its connected to battery from the body with another cable) and keep at 13 volts. And it's annoying that it don't came with the xt60I.
This would easily be solvable if they allow you to fine tune the on off voltage in the app by 0.1v increments. that way you can find the perfect sweet spot for your setup.
You said you'd post if they updated firmware to voltage decimals, don't see it, DID THEY?
What size alternator does one need for this?
Great video , just like to comment on the power from the alternator / car battery , at 760 watts at13volts that drawing 58 amps thats a lot of current! what is the capacity of the alternator ? you could overload the alternator, some of the power may come from the battery at the same time so the load is shared between the two, on my eco delta on solar in bright sun Iget 42 volts at 7 amps they are 2 x 150 watt panels , the question is how long can the alternator sustain this kind of load, a lower charging rate would do the job on a long drive to fully re charge and bear in mind that the eco may not be totally discharged anyway , so will only need to top up!
I feel like they really missed the mark by not putting an additional input for solar in as a source of battery maintenance.
Your aircon doesn't draw much battery power - just the fans. It runs off a compressor so it's using your engine for power.
Hello, I have one Delta Pro and no extra batteries. Can I use this charger and the EF Dual Fuel Generator at the same time, using both battery ports and two XT150 adapters?
I have just purchased one of these Alternator Chargers. I get 800W even at idle and when I turn off the engine it stops charging. The most annoying thing for me is that there is no way, possibly via a Y cable to charge the Delta 2 and the Delta 2 Smart Extra battery. Other than that I am super happy with it but I am trying to figure a way to charge both batteries without fiddling to disconnect and reconnect.
I just purchased the Ecoflow Delta 3 Plus with the 800w Alternator Charger. I didn’t think of this until I was sleeping, I have a 2007 Toyota Hybrid. Is this charging system going to interfere with the hybrid system. I have a regular battery setup, seems like a simple solution to solar panels. I live in Florida and want a plug and go when a hurricane strikes. Thanks
It is not so much the battery damage you need to worry about. According to Scotty Kilmer (TH-cam channel of 50+ year auto mechanic), the alternators are designed specifically for the electrical system of specific cars -- and adding a separate electrical system to charge will eventually lead to prematurely wearing out the alternator and possibly worse yet damaging your car's microprocessors (very expensive repairs).
Scotty knows 🎉
Ugh, just install it and repair later lol
@@jwfmechanical9864 I'm pretty sure people that buy into this cheap marketing have money to waste. They will just buy another car and another set of ecoflow crap without knowing what hit them in first place.
does my fj cruiser have "microprocessors"?
Any news on when exactly the XT60 cable will be available? I'd love to use this with my Anker F3800 battery.
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I’ve seen the whole video and my honest opinion is I love the product and I love the AC unit, I just don’t like Ecoflow as much as I like bluetti so if you can use it for any power station like if I can use it for my bluetti, then I would buy it in a heartbeat
Wait if you don’t need the extra features There will be a Bluetti product similar to the pecron unit in july or so
Great video. I’ve give a 2019 Jeep Cherokee 3.2 with the towing package. Do you think it has a large enough alternator to run the 800w? My Delta 2 will be here Tuesday. Also I’m hoping I can use the 800w to charge my Delta 2 during a power outage. Can I leave my Jeep idling in the driveway to charge it or do I have to drive around? Much appreciate your info and advice.
so how fast will this kill the alternator? and can you upgrade your alternate to handle something like this for a long time ?
Great review
Great review, Mario! The price point is 🤔!!!!
I'm confused! I thought new Jeeps have switches that you can route things to like lights and winches too. So instead of connecting that device directly to the battery connected to one of those switches, then when you're driving down the road on a long trip you flip the switch and your Delta gets charged. Then if you stop for gas or to take a dump you flip the switch it stops charging your Delta and you don't have to worry about coming off the crapper for the dead battery
I would not have known I needed and upgraded alternator, really appreciate this. On another note, how hot does it get, was planning on mounting it behind the backseat of a Tacoma?
Not completely necessary, I haven’t had issues with the setup. Also, the charger uses GaN Prime which is very resilient to high heat. This is also one of the reasons the thing costs more than other chargers. It feels as warm to the touch as a laptop charger.
So its just a battery charger 🤔
Hey, you mentioned on the video that they will be coming up with an xt60i adaptor this summer. where did you find that information I own a Delta, and I'm hoping for it to be compatible with it with this adapter
19:34 I would of pointed wave 2 to the delta to chill it 💨
Will it work with a 24 volt. With Diesel trucks
Does this work with smart alternators?
I could be wrong, as it has been known to happen. But, I believe you are setting the starting point, for it to charge, in the wrong direction. You only want the unit to kick on "start charging" when it senses the voltage coming into the unit is above the normal voltage of a battery, i.e. over 12.8V and in this case 13V and above. That way the unit will not try to charge anything unless it receives 13V or higher. Please provide us with an update. Thank you, Tony
No you're not wrong. What he's saying somewhere past 22:00 about setting the voltage doesn't make any sense and is very confusing 😕
Can you connect this to the Bluetti account 200l If you cut the wire and put the Bluetti connectors on the eco flow would it be charching the Bluetti powerbank
My battery doesn’t have posts like this. Where would I possibly connect it to the battery?
Wait, i can limit the output from 800w to anything lower?
Then i dont need to worry about burn down my alternator as it draws less amps
It will go as low as 100W.
i know that this device will not draw charging amperage when below the set voltage, but im curious about the parasitic draw when its left powered on when the vehicle is off.
To me this would be perfect only if it charged while the vehicle was running only. The fact that it still pulls from the starter battery after the vehicle is shut off is a NO GO for me. I only want to use excess power and I do not want to use any of my starter battery power when vehicle is not running. It is much more important to me that my battery is maintained and can start my vehicle then it is that my battery pack gets charged. I will admit that it is slick how it can reverse the power though. I like that idea.
It depends on how you set up the starting voltage.
The adapter cable is still not out.
please cite where you were informed of the xt60i cable. no one else who reviewed this nor ecoflow has made any mention of this upcoming option...
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@@AdventureGearTV well done. im surprised no else mentioned this.
Hello,
read all the coments and still cant confirm- is it posible to adjust/limit the charging imput? to lets say constant 300-400w withouth the "automatic" sensing? thanks in advance
So this product is proprietary to EcoFlow System.
No. Other videos have broken this down also. However you only get 800 watts with Ecoflow.
Did you try a firmware update through the app.?
To get it to recognize the wave 2!
I got this recently to charge my Wave 2 Extended Battery which like your video, does not work. Would be very interested to know if you figure it out.
Battery has to be connected to the Wave 2 to charge it.
Does anyone know if this can be used on a hybrid car?
Super helpful and detailed review as always! Good to know the pros and cons of everything.
It’s an excellent system, but I believe it’s one firmware update away from amazing.
Ac compressor is not driven electrically. Only the fan is an electrical load.
That negative should go to chassis ground. Also for 70-80 Amps the cables are too small IMO. I use Victron DC to DC. The price is way better and you can charge any power station with it. But for plug and play I guess if you want to spend the money, 🤷♂️
I like the Jeep! Looking good😀
Had email from ecoflow update firmware on max 2 should fix problem of charging 😢😢😢 it did not fix anything
Yeah, you lost me when you said it could burn down your alternator. How is that possible if you don't even need one?
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but it only works on ecoflow products which is a bummer,
This was made during the 2024 cidada plague. Fun times. 😂
Wow! Amazing what they can do now!
Pecron smart charger has voltage selector and only $150.00 dollars
Great video very educational
24:06 Dude should of had a smoke screen happen here (as a joke) $
Still xt60i cable cannot be found, so can be used with other power stations:(
Best review on this tithing I’ve seen !
This product is dangerous; especially in the way it is being sold, advertised, and marketed. Lots of people are going to blow up their alternators and batteries because of the misinformed influencers marketing this product on TH-cam. I appreciate your review compared to what I've seen so far. You highlight the major flaws of this product in an honest and genuine way.
Can you elaborate?
He is referring to over working your alternator and rendering your charging system unless. Potentially stranding yourself in the process. Not all alternatornators are created equal. The Ecoflow charger will overload the electrical system if your alternator is not rated for the amp usage. Adjusting the output wattage on the charger and knowing correct formula is going to be paramount.
Yeah…I don’t think so. Unless you have a low power “dumb (old)” alternator, if your alternator can’t keep up with demand, you’re going to get a voltage drop. This is why the device was pulling a lower wattage when he had it set to 13v. Lowing the voltage setting that he was is telling it that it’s normal for his voltage to be that low, thus is going to draw more…
Good luck to your alternator
Why would you need 800W charger for overlanding? 30-40A charger is sufficient for such purpose. People typically explore the area by driving at least 3-4hrs, which is enough to charge your power station. With such a small draw you don't destroy your alternator and you don't have to spend more money on bigger alternator. I have spent $50 on 30A system (12-24V DC-DC converter built by local company), which charges my Delta 2 in 4hrs. It is hooked up to my gang switch via relay, so it won't drain my starting battery once the ignition is off. For the jump starting scenario I have a small power bank, which I can use for many different things. Unless you have a huge rig with 3kW+ batteries this charger is pointless and its price point is ridiculous comparing to other options you have on the market. You can get Victron Orion for much less.
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Warning, your being sold a device that will 100% at least damage if not destroy your expensive alternater. Why do you think some pick up trucks offer two alternatives that have extra load devices. Stay clear!
And how will this "destroy" your alternator?
I have one installed in my '17 Tacoma, and charging the Delta 2.
The unit only uses excess available power to charge with. If for instance, if I had a ton of exterior lights running, stereo amp cranking, etc.... it will dial down the available wattage accordingly to accommodate the alternator's output.
It won't continue to stress the alternator to maintain the watts you have selected in the app. The unit favors the alternator over the charge function to work in harmony.
. Very interesting 😊
Could be a perfect way to top off these batteries.
It's not a jump starter, it's a reverse charger. Ecoflow warns you to not jump start from this.
Turn off the charger anytime you need to use the winch.
That hood prop... 🤦
what a silly use case. Why would you need to buy a powerstream when you can charge your delta powerstation straight from your 12v Car cigaret lighter port additionally if it is to power a camper then using the Powerstream which has a 800w output power limit is totally pointless if your loads are over a kw. Maybe you should detail your use case before doing a video of a Powerstream which was aimed at the residential market
Suggestion: wear a mic at all times. Sounds way better.
Turning OFF the ignition should stop all charging and in fact you could wire it that way, so only on ignition/car running the charger can start charging, the problem is you wired it stright to both battery terminal's! Seems to be a USER error as thats surley not how the install instructions would have diagramed it?
the ecoflow user manual tessl you to do it that way. may be designer error, but not user error
And this is just the Beta.. And they're going to make this for all their batteries
They’re always improving with firmware updates.
I know it's fun playing with electronic gadgets for power. But to my mind it's Overkill. Just think about all the extra gas and space you're wasting hauling around solar panels. Trying to get a little juice out of them or idling your car to recharge your lithium batteries, adding more weight to your vehicle not counting all the money these gadgets and batteries cost. To where a simple, quiet running portable generator can give you all the power you need anywhere anytime for little cost. They could run on gas or propane and take up very little space.
That cable will probably cost $150
Almost perfect at over $500? Step away from the crack pipe there's so many workarounds to do this if not as well for quite good enough for a tiny little fraction of that cost
Pretty sure your device is faulty
12v/13v same as 110v/120. you are splitting hairs and this video is mute point.