Simplest 800 Watt Add ON! EcoFlow Alternator Charger!
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- What are your thoughts on the new EcoFlow Alternator Charger? Darn near plug and play! #ecoflow #smart #charging #solar #rv #vanlife
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Maybe I missed it, or maybe it wasn’t easy to see… so how does the device connect to the vehicle starter battery(?)
The same as the battery on the bench in the beginning. Couple ring terminals but they recommend negative to the frame.
Great video bro! Does this thing work with other companies solar generators ? I’ve been looking all over for this answer
No unfortunately its part of the EcoFlow ecosystem 👍🏼
Does it work for River pro 2 ?
This seems an excellent little box of tricks.
Hope they bring & sell this too the UK market is just what need for moving between car, work truck & Caravan.
I’ve been alternator charging my Delta 2 Max with 2 Victron Orion 12 to 24 V DC DC chargers turned up to 30V and charging through the solar input ports. I get about 850 Watts charging speed. Cost $280 + cables.
How many amps
@@johnnysweekends the Ecoflow app only shows the charge rate in Watts but you can work backwards from that to get the amps. 850Watts @30V = 28.3A at the solar inputs, @13.3V at the input to the Orion DC to DC the current is about 64A.
My alternator can output more than that so I actually have a 460Ah Epoch 12V battery charging from the alternator then the battery connected to the Ecoflow through the Orion DC to DC converters. It’s a messy system but I had bought the Ecoflow Delta 2 Max before I realized what a hassle it would be to charge it from the alternator. In hindsight I would never have bought the Ecoflow unit.
Same here. But I have a ecoflow ev adapter also if I need 2800w charging. Problem is finding level 2s that work while travelling
@Blztrls Is there a video and part list available?
@@Scat.original there’s no video I know of that details my specific method but there are some that detail how to use a 12v to 24v converter to boost the input wattage into Ecoflow or other systems.
It’s fairly straightforward just get 2 Victron Orion 12V to 24 V converters, there is a dial you can turn to up the voltage to 30V. Then hook the output to the Ecoflow solar inputs using an XT60i connector. Make sure you use a genuine XT60i connector as the XT60 connector will be recognized as a low amperage connector and limit you to about 100watts.
Also make sure you use thick cables on the input to the Victron Orions as it will be pulling about 70 amps. I got all my parts from Amazon.
GREAT video Jon!! I think you just helped me figure out why mine would not work. I was NOT pressing the "Start" button after getting the green light. Mine is charging my D2 now.
Good video. Wish I'd seen this sooner. I got a DC-DC charger from Renogy on black friday for my truck camper but this would have been a perfect solution and super easy installation. I like that it's bi-directional too.
Pretty sure this thing wouldn't have worked. Output is 40-60v.
Love it. I figured out over a year ago how to do this. Insane price but not unexpected from Ecoflow.
This is really cool...... not for me but I'm glad to know it's there if I DO need it. It seems like it would be great for campers who use this on the way to the camp site to charge your batteries. Thanks for the video, it's the FIRST I've heard of this device! Thumbs UP!
Exactly as you drive it can easily power up a decent size power bank and coupled with solar even better. So class C, sprinters or vans and more can really benefit from this. Is it the cheapest option? No, is it the simplest….by far!
Great Review as Always
Thank You
Scat
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This is very cool! It's kind of a perfect way to connect a server rack battery to your EcoFlow Delta in addition to working with your alternator. Awesome video Johnny
how would this allow you to connect a server rack battery at all? It only outputs to Ecoflow batteries.
@@1FAST91SONOMA Johnny showed the input being connected to a 12v battery to simulate a car's alternator so that shows you could connect a bigger battery to recharge a Delta and act as a more affordable expansion battery. Not sure if this could recharge the battery though, maybe Johnny can let us know
@todd.parker input and output is 13.8/27.6 so no 48v systems.
24v only…👍🏼 but no directional.
But I think charging will only get you 95% since float is about 27v on a 24v system
Thanks for sharing. Good explanation
Great video Johnny - thanks!
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Just ordered. I've been waiting for EF to offer this. A bit pricey, but is easy, plug and play for my setup. Thanks!
Agree, a little spendy but install is minutes and away ya go.
A most for campers
Babylon’s unit 800w out of 12v is alot!
Thanks good information has always been
Agree it’s super helpful especially if driving for a couple hours that’s a big boost plus solar input!!
Great video and review. Thank you! This product may just solve one of my "boat problems" (aka First World problems). It will be interesting to see more complete documentation and parameters once the documentation and specifications are fully available. How does it decide to charge which side when both sides are not fully charged, etc. etc.? Many questions and I am sure they are working on the answers. Please publish a follow-up.
Dang, they bundle it cheap, but $600 on its own!?! that is pushing it for me. I'll wait for next version or lower price. I would love this in my truck for my Delta2.
Not sure if I need alternator charging but…
When I try to use standard 12v 100ah batteries to act as an expansion battery for my delta, I run into the problem of a hard limit. 12v x 8a = 84 watt, be generous and make an even 100 watt. That’s the max dc charge rate I can put into the EcoFlow from a standard battery.
With this dcdc charger, I can fully utilize the EcoFlow AC output while still putting a decent amount of energy back in. Or simply letting it do its pass thru charging. This is a cheap alternative to those super expensive expansion batteries.
I use a Delta pro max in my 18-wheeler for tv, cooking, etc. It took a while, but I figured out how to get my 1800-watt inverter to recharge my delta pro max. I have it set at 1000w, and it takes around 2 hours if my delta is ever very low. This unit will definitely put a work your alternator so you should be very mindful of that. I obviously have a heavy duty alternator and after an hour or so, I can see my alternator amps begin to dip. The only problem with my setup is that I have to remember to turn off the inverter whenever I shut off my truck, sometimes I forget. If this unit will shut off automatically, that is a huge plus and I would buy this just for that feature alone.
In charge mode once truck is off it stops. So its just at idle until you turn it off or turn off the EcoFlow delta unit
@@johnnysweekends sweet. Thanks
The bi-directional functionality is cool! Thanks for showing us how it works! .....EDIT @ $600 the price is a bit steep.... ouch
Agree, I see it coming down in a few months, but for people who want a plug and play and hate wiring this is so simple. $499 looks more appealing 😂😁👍🏼
@@johnnysweekends totally! Great video Johnny,
Twice the price of the new Victron 12/12-50A. Also, that 6AWG cable is both undersized AND proprietary, whereas the Victron can be cabled to work with anything.
@@jasonbroom7147 Keep in mind the Victron 12/12-50a will charge a power station at only 120 watts due to the low voltage (12v output).
@jasonbroom7147 they are pushing it with the 6. At the full length makes ya wonder if 4g would have been better. Not sure if using GaN tech makes enough difference in temp and thermal melt down lol. A full load test for a couple hours is needed. I only ran it for 45 mins max and it was warm but nothing to be excited about.
I like it. Would be awesome for things like this to start working its way into market. I have seen some folks build a small HP mower type engine with alternators for charging battery banks. But, it would be a great setup if a company made a setup that you can plug into car and charge your off grid battery setups for low power generation days. I like the ecoflow but, since many people already have off grid components in separates would be nice for a universal setup to be used without having a main component as the ecoflow.
Agree, there is always an optional build you can do that’s universal. But when things are more proprietary then you are kinda stuck. But again most companies make products to work with their products. It like apple, why would they make something compatible with Samsung 🤷🏼♂️ or any other company. Needs to be a 3rd party to make some universal set up.
But for those who want quick and easy this is more for them.
Ok this is a bit of a game changer for vanlifers one the move. Instead of using the almost useless 12v DC charger (it's more of a trickle charge at around 100w). This can do some real charging! Thanks for charing.
Yes, yes it can!! 👍🏼💪🏼
There are several devices from reputable companies that can charge alternator to battery dc/dc. I have 1 that charges around 420w while Im driving and it was $175 fuse, cables & charger together. Add in solar or a dual battery system etc and 800-1000 watt charging is possible.
For $600 Ill wait for a sale. $350 max for this thing I think because it has reverse charging ( who is using that? ) and works with the app and is clean and easy. $600 is crazy town.
If you're not in the Ecoflow eco system. This video is not for you.
Pecron came out with a 500 watt alternator charging system. You can use it on any brand of power station.
The Pecron only cost 149. 😊
Ecoflow cost 599.00😮
I know right plus the victron unit at 700 watts.
This is revolutionary. I have bluetti batteries and hope something like this becomes available for Bluetti units too. Amazing !!!!!
I believe Bluetti just came out with there dc charger as well. A buddy just got it so will see what it does
@@johnnysweekends I can see a DC charger that works with some units (not mine unfortunately as I have AC180 and EB70) but it says nothing to connect it to the van alternator
There's this one charger from PECRON 500W Car Charger DC1242-500 will do alternator charging at a max of 500 watts through solar MC4 connection on virtually any power generator and it has the ability to turn one-off by monitoring alternator voltage and it's only $149.00.
@berniefranklin3586 yup there is plus the victron unit. Now ecoflow dropped the price 😀👍🏼
Great video! I'm definitely picking one up. Just wondering, though, what charger is that which you hooked up to the battery?
Been testing one myself. I think it's an awesome product.
So simple!!
@@johnnysweekends I was hoping for some charge profiles for different chemistry’s for connecting to the camper house battery. I believe we will see that soon.
@jjsantos3292 agree. I think after app updates which should come soon since this hasn’t officially been released yet.
That would be a nice add on feature to have! 🤠👍
No kidding! So simple.
downside to this is that, if you max out the Delta 2 Max, both ports are going to be taken up. so you can't charge all three batteries at once etc, you are limited to only 2. even then I'm definitely getting one
Thank you for this video you just answered a question I had sent to EcoFlow support that they said wasn't possible. I asked about the reverse charging and how that worked. Answer they sent me and I wonder if this was just an AI response if the documentation is still in the works.
"Based on the information provided in our documentation, there is no specific mention or guidance on a reverse charging setup that allows the Delta Max 2 to charge house/start batteries directly. Our current product design and documentation primarily focus on charging the Delta Max 2 and its extra batteries through various methods, including solar panels, AC shore power, and alternator charging while driving."
"However, your scenario of charging the Delta Max 2 while driving and then using it to charge your house/start batteries when stationary, although innovative, is not directly supported with the current design and accessories. This setup would require additional equipment, or a custom solution not provided by EcoFlow at this time."
"We appreciate your innovative approach to utilizing our products and understand the convenience such a setup would offer. Your feedback is invaluable, and we will forward your suggestion to our product development team for consideration in future product designs or updates."
It’s so new that it’s still beta technically hence it wont deliver for a few weeks. New firmware is still coming. Im still limited to what I can do so ill do an update when the firmware updates and its closer to release and i have more time with it.
Good Morning from Germany. A nice solution, but what do they do with start - stop Automatic in modern Diesel Car ?
Question
I don't see the Delta Max battery listed as compatible, only the Delta 2 Max, can you confirm if the Delta Max battery is compatible since it has the correct connector?
It'll be half price on sale in two months. I'll wait 🤓
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Vanlifers will love this
Definitely 👍🏼
Not really. Too expensive and limited. $600 for a bi-directional DC-DC charge controller is pretty bad. I got a 50A DC-DC/MPPT controller (does alternator charging as well as solar, all in one and it also charges the starter battery like this one does) and a 2000W pure sine inverter for the same money. 2000W>800W by a lot. If you wanted to power an entire build from Ecoflow products exclusively and you hate wiring I guess this makes sense but anyone who isnt afraid of connecting +/+ and -/- will get more for their money by running some more wires
Looks identical like ecoflow powerstream ;-)
Now that's a cool feature for the ecoflow.
You gotta admit it is. So simple!
@@johnnysweekends puts them one step ahead of the rest. 👍
@dangeroustoman have to admit they are the most inventive company for the Rv offgrid stuff at the moment. Crazy stuff just keeps coming.
They should give you a place to store the plug tool. Seems like there's some settings missing like battery/input type. Waiting for someone to try and reverse charge solar panels...
Yea it’s still beta or was during testing so app updates should already be out. I should check
You know all of these things and I realize the Ford lightning I’m upon to buy I don’t have to worry about any of this!
Yup just the ford itself. Good luck… I do like the inverter setup but that’s just one small solution that fits less than 1%
I like the idea but not the vehicle 😂
But we all have our likes and dislikes 👍🏼
Someone is gonna regret that Ford turd purchase lol
The great thing for cold area van life is that before starting the vehicle in the morning in the cold you can give it a quick charge boost then start the vehicle.
Nice video and product from Ecoflow!
Johnny.. Will this charge my 48v lithium battery bank from a Silverado 2500? Specs say it would.. I'm ready to pull the trigger but thinking about output cables/adapters to connect to the 48v server rack lifepo4 batteries..
Says 12/24v into EcoFlow products
Did you ever try hooking some solar panels to your power station, and see if it charged both start battery and power station at the same time? I'm just curious if it will work like an RV DC to DC charge controller setup, if everything is hooked up, and vehicle is turned off.
I did do dual charging dc from solar and Dc from alt charger so it will also charge start batt and function as it should.
More firmware updates are coming which will allow and unlock more features that didn’t work like battery side voltage verses power station stats
That’s fairly efficient I charge my deltas using a 700w inverter which draws 73A from my alternator you are getting an extra 100w with this set up and bi directional charging why didn’t they make this sooner also the unit looks like a power stream you can almost cook on them they get so hot during use how hot did they get ?
Well using GaN tech now they run much cooler and way more efficient. I let it run for only 45 mins and it only got warm. But it’s not tucked into a wall or storage area and it was 68 degrees out. But definitely didn’t get hot. It would need a couple hours of run time in a mounted location to check temps. They need to use GaN in all new devices!
@@johnnysweekends I have subed will look out for your next video
I think I’ll wait for the second gen. Who knows, the second gen might be able to charge over 800W.
Looks like it is only useful for the current generation, Delta series of Ecoflow units. I have one ( Delta 2 Max and Extra Battery) but would be good to use it on the other units also like the River Max, River Pro and River 2.
I would love to see it running at max for 1hr and see what the surface temperature is on the charger. This could impact where/how people install it.
Agree I need to have it mounted and see how warm it gets being on for a while verses the 45 mins I ran it on a 68 degree day. But GaN tech is more efficient and runs much cooler. It got warm but not really. Just enough to know it’s doing something. But again not great test conditions on a low temp day and not mounted
For reverse charging, particularly for a battery bank, is it for 12v batteries only?
It has a reverse charge voltage of 13.8 and 27.6v so it can do a 24 volt system but I dont think it will charge to 100%. Maybe 95% as charging 24v system is normally 29v for lithium and lower for AGM and lead acid. Float around 26.5v for agm and 27 for lithium. So yes!! 👍🏼
Great vid! Is there an option to reduce the wattage from 800 to a smaller value?
Yessss! 100-800 selectable 👍🏼
Does the power hub (with power kit) have a feature where it can send power back to the chassis battery via alternator cable?
It can send back through the DC out at 13.6v or 70amp max. This is the same as just the normal dc out for dc loads but I guess can charge a battery as well. Although I have not tried it. I may send the DC out at 24v then to a battery charger and step down to 12v. So a 24/12V charger. Im changing my setup and getting rid of my on board solar setup for the house battery and adding more solar to dump into power kit and then dump the excess to the house from 48v to 12V so that will actually be easier. So I will run a 15k PK into a 2600wh 12v Battery.
@@johnnysweekends Thanks!
I'm just starting to get into this and literally this is my first video. Is it possible to charge while driving? Also, if i have a rechargeable hybrid/ electric vehicle, would it be practical?
Definitely can charge while driving. Although a lot of hybrids are coming with build in inverters. May wanna see if you have one and check the output
Will this work on two linked DP's running solar + alternator?
Yes you can charge solar and Alt at same time but only one DP at a time. But yes dual charging
Great product makes me hesitant to buy the anker powerhouse 767, but a charger like this selling for 599 might be a bit pricey for what it is. Ecoflow has also released a 500w charger in some region that uses the xt60 connecter, which about 150 bucks, it is a much better deal compare with this one. But from the video this 800w charger seems to use a fanless design, probably thanks to the Gallium Nitride technology that brings less consumption. I probably wouldn't consider buying it in the short term, preferring to wait a year to get the right price or coupon.
But if you gave not bought a System yet, you can get a great bundle price with this in it.
Hi, looks interesting. Can a solar be used to generate the energy instead of the vehicle? This would add another MPPT to the Delta Pro, which would be great.
Yes. That demonstration is at the beginning when using the battery.
Can you plug in the 12v plug into the solar input see if you can get more than 800 watts?
Well you can solar charge and use the ALt charger at the same time so I assume it should work up to max DC in.
I am a Delta2 user with extra battery setup. It seems this can't be used at the same time as the Extra battery for Delta2, since only has one port. Any chance the alternator charger can plug directly into EXTRA battery and charge it independent of the Delta 2? That port looks to be the same format on both the Delta2 and the ExtraBattery? Not sure how safe it would be...but may offer another way to charge up your extra battery? PS - Thanks for the video and the savings links - great job!
Yes you can swap it from delta 2 or the extra battery and charge direct just like the smart generator
That price is ridiculous. I've been using my 1200 watt inverter hooked up to my truck for a while. I'll just continue to use that. $600 🙄 gimme a break.
Is there any advice on the minimum size alternator for example I have a 240 amp alternator
That should be plenty as I have a 220 amp as I showed in the video 👍🏼
I wish it was able to charge 2 delta pros at once and just split the power or at least charge up one and then go to the next.
Yea would a splitter
So this is just an alternator B2B charger for Delta Pro to match what their Power Kits have for Alternator charging built in?
Can the Powerkit do 2 way charging yet? Didn't think so
Yup, and yes the app was updated to be able to charge the other way now. Although I haven’t tried since mine is in a towable RV and not a van or something with house batts. But I need to try the RV house batts I guess. Have to try it out.
@@johnnysweekends nice!!!
did you get some answers to the questions you posed?
my v6 gas/petrol has 130amp alternator (but is 15 years old!) and fresh AGM battery with 70 AmpH
how much wattage can I expect to pull? What's a safe setting?
Also, let's say my car battery goes flat at 11.5v? watt hours of the ecoflow delta 2 should I expect to 'reserve' as emergency? is the reverse an instantaneous 'jump start' or i will be waiting some time for the AGM car battery to have enough current to turn the starter?
130 amp alternator might be on the low side if AC in running and lights or other systems. You may want to look into a HD Alternator for your vehicle. And it does have a boost feature but haven’t tried it.
I have a few questions that I have not seen mentioned or covered on the EcoFlow website.
1. How does a person hook up this unit to a Delta 2 already paired with a Delta 2 Extra Battery? I mean, how do you charge the Extra Battery if there is only one output from the Delta 2, and that is hooked to the alternator charger?
2. Does this unit get hot at all, as I am considering mounting it under the driver's seat.
3. Can the Delta 2 charge via the alternator charger and solar at the same time? I want to use the alternator charger as a boost for the 200W solar setup.
Thanks!
Yes you can charge with Alt charger and solar at same time. I dont have enough testing as it was a cool day and an open area for me to tell you if that’s a good spot. I would have it in a more open area if you can. It got warm but not hot in a 45 minute test at full.
As far as charging D2 unfortunately there is no way to charge both. So it would be manually or upgrade to D2M…
@@johnnysweekends Awesome that the solar and alternator can charge at the same time.
As for upgrading to D2M from my D2, it wouldn't play well with my setup. The D2 and D2 Smart Extra Battery each fit perfectly behind a seat in my 17 Tacoma double cab. The cable between them just fits as well.
The D2M is just too wide + the cabling on the side.
In most cases a single D2 is more than enough for my needs, but I couldn't pass up a deal on a second D2 + the Smart Extra Battery shipped free for $1099, when the Smart Extra Battery was $750 by itself at the time.
Great video on a very expensive, specialized and proprietary product.
You can accomplish the same thing as this product with an inverter connected to your vehicle battery for less than a third of the price of this thing. I've been doing it for years. $600 for this is a joke.
Of course you can, just like anything there is always a cheaper way. But some people like integration and plug and play. Especially if not comfortable with wiring and more.
@@r.kitt.3987 - Yeah, not exactly. Charging anything other than your vehicle's lead-acid battery, using the alternator, is not as simple as you seem to think it is. This isn't just about using an inverter, and connecting an inverter directly to your vehicle's battery comes with its own set of problems. This product is a lot more sophisticated than you are giving it credit for.
@@jasonbroom7147 bullshit. I've been charging my ecoflow devices off an inverter connected to my vehicle for years. All I do is scale back the amount of wattage so as not to overload the alternator. I've had zero problems.
@@r.kitt.3987 - Yeah? How do you scale back the wattage? The EF app or settings on the device? How do you prevent your battery from being drawn down too far? I'm not saying it can't be done, or shouldn't be done, but the inefficiency is pretty absurd, when you really look at it. You're using fossil fuel to spin the alternator, which puts DC power into your SLA battery, then you convert that to AC with an inverter, which your power station converts back into DC to charge its battery. You're losing at least 20-30 percent of the actual energy being created in those conversion processes.
So in an RV how would this interact with onboard converters?
It would act the same as when I plugged in the charger. It would show constant voltage and be able to charge at 800 watts.
But check your converter rating. Some can be pretty low at only 45 amps and some much higher like 80 amps. I would check your model
Finally. Now where's the adapter to plug into Delta Pro Ultra?
lol I know!!!!! Or universal 💪🏼
I have delta 1600 set up with 800 watts of solar on my trailer. Could I get this along with a 400 Ah battery and use this for extra battery storage? Seems it might work as a cheaper alternative to extra batteries? Thank for the videos.
It could work but if it’s the original delta it won’t hook up with out the xt150 connector
10-4. Thank you. I will do my research.
What is the minimum size alternator to safely charge at 800 w without damaging the alternator
It uses up to 65 amps. I would say at least double that for you to be able to still use all car systems and not over strain the alt. Or you just dont have every single thing on in the car.
I just bought this. I wonder though, I have the delta pro, do I need to buy a certain adapter for it to connect in the back of the delta pro? It looked like you had something like that in the back?
Yes you need the smart generator adapter ….seen here 👍🏼 amzn.to/4dfAqRk
@@johnnysweekends thx!
Will this only work on ecoflow? Or can it work with anything with a xt60?
Only with EcoFlow as it uses the xt150 connector and data pins
Curious what the outcome of was for the reverse charging. Did it gradually stop charging and sense when the battery was charged in your Truck?
I am contemplating if i should go this route and would be curious to know your thoughts. My setup below.
Duramax Shuttle bus with dual alternators feeding a big 400-amp dual isolator with 2 start Batteries on one output and 2 House Batteries on the second output. I also have a Delta 2 Max with one extra battery with 1000 watts of solar coming in. My thought is to run everything 12v related off the House Batteries and everything AC related off the Delta 2 max. it seems like this and the reverse charging capabilities i would be able to keep my house batteries topped off with solar when the Engine isn't running. Only downside I see is not being able to use Lifepo4 batteries for the house batteries but not sure that really matters since my 12-volt load will really be low.
Let me know your thoughts on that. Would love some feedback.
This system is compatible with all battery chemistry’s and will charge the house batteries. Lithium has its own bms so it will stop charging once full. But needs the 14.4 volt to fully top off. So if it only 13.8 max then it may only charge the battery 95%. Not sure.
This is still so new and in beta more updates will be coming out. And im sure maybe added features or accessories. Who knows. They added extras to the power kit so will be interesting what else this is doing in 6 months.
Can be Delta pro charged with Ecoflow alternator charger from Lifepo4 48V 200ah battery (Operating Voltage 43.2V-57.6V)?
It is 12/24 compatible only from the instructions.
Ok so when is the alternator charger app going to be available on the Ecoflow app??
I understand it’s still beta but there is No sign of it yet.
I think anytime. I thought I heard June 1st. I would think anytime
does it work with the ecoflow river ? if not will one be coming up?
The river does not have the xt150 connection so no. And I don’t think so
I would love to see if it does alternator charging and solar at the same time.
Yes it can!!! Funny I filmed it but not sure what happen to the footage … just gone 🤷🏼♂️
But it shows solar in the app and then dc coming in separate. I had about 1000 watts coming in. 180 solar and 800 alternator
@@johnnysweekends I think some people would be interested to know what happens when solar is maxed with alternator charging on. Does it add together or is it capped at the solar input max?
@anyalpine I wanted to do full solar but over the last couple days it’s cloudy and actually today its not raining. Rv voltage is to high so i use ground panels
@@johnnysweekends you can fake solar via a charger into the solar port. People have used DC voltage boost converters like this with EcoFlows. Or just wait till it’s sunny 😎
@anyalpine I do this all the time but both my chargers are all 15V at 50 amp or 85 amp. I dont have a high DC out power source. Been meaning to get one, but busy ya know lol
So, that reverse charge should allow you to connect large server rack batteries and such to it…
12/24v only
Help, please. What alternator would work best?
Sorry I don’t know anything about your vehicle. Best to go to a auto parts store and see what HD alts are available for it
How long could you charge with your truck Just idling?
Till it’s full…or I run out of fuel 🤷🏼♂️
Can you set charging speed limits in the app so it doesn’t draw as many amps?
Yesss!! 😀👍🏼 100-800 watts
@@johnnysweekends What about for the reverse charge scenario?
800W at 12.6V is 63.5 amps. Nearly any alternator will support that. My truck has a 240 amp alternator.
It’s people in the smaller cars and small suvs that will be running lower amp alts. Like 140…
Sir how can i plug this on my delta pro i cant find the input
This is a must for smart generator and the alt charger
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how many volts does it push to the battery in reverse charge mode? Trying to see if it will meet the specs for an AGM battery since they like 14-14.5v to charge all the way rather than the alternator default of 13.8v
It would be nice to be able to specify battery type or change voltage/amperage settings.
In the specs sheet it reverses the same spec. 13.8/27.6v
Im getting more info on this but i think its auto like a charge controller or battery charger. Most can tell battery charge parameters now, like a smart charger
@@anyalpine I 100% agree
Will this work with the original delta?
No it wont. Needs the xt150 connector
Can I hook that up to my truck to charge my Rv trailer battery’s
Unfortunately no.doesnt work that way
Would this be hard on a truck with a 100a alternator?
Yes you would want to update to a HD alt. Since the Alt charger can draw 65 amps alone.
This is the second unit I’ve seen from
a different manufacturer so it must not be proprietary technology. It won’t be long before every company will be producing them with every iteration incorporating a new feature. For my needs this eliminates the need for solar.
If my transit van alternator is 175a how am I getting 800w?
400 I can see but how can I get 800?
You only need about 60 amps at 13.8 volts
I have a hybrid car, do I connect this to my battery?
Yes the main starting battery. Instructions are easy.
One question I have three EcoFlow Delta Pro battery. my Ford Transit. If it is compatible
It will work with delta pro but need the smart gen adapter…..
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If I have it, I brought it when I bought the three Delta Pro batteries. What I see is that I have to plug it into the battery ports and have to disconnect the battery every time. I think it's wrong. 🤔😵💫 @johnnysweekends
Can that charger be hook to a wall outlet??
No
Also this unit can become very hot when operating.
Needs to be placed where it gets ventilation.
Do you have one ?
No I don’t but testers on the Ecoflow Facebook club pages have stated this unit becomes quite hot during operation.
@xraykadiddlehopper8067 I have not seen that yet from other testers
Does this thing work on the delta 2
Yess!! It has the xt150 port so it plugs into the side of the unit 👍🏼
Does it work with a 48V battery ?
No 12/24v
Can you charge an EV from the EcoFlow with it?
You can, but the Delta pro is only a 3600wh battery so not much range.
Hey mate if we have a hybrid car like range Rover porshe Cayenne can we use this alternator to charge ev battery
It will only feed the starter battery.
Even then charging the EV would be slow at only 800 watts.
I taught if we could charge that way then we don't need to charge again 😂😜 lifetime free 🆓😁
@GameTrailblazerX lol not yet
Does this system only work for eco flow systems??
Yes unfortunately
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When it’s $399 I’ll buy it lol.
Understanding that power can't be generated for free........does charging from this unit effect the economy of the vehicle while driving?
Sure just like running a AC unit it will put load on the alternator which will transfer to belt and engine. How much? Who knows. Cant imagine more than a 2% difference.
Cool! Would love to have one to be able to top off/use external batteries with my D2.
...but priced at $599? ...not cool. Completely outrageous, actually. Seems like they priced this to push people towards buying ecoflow battery capacity rather than using what they already have.
agreed. Adding a Victron Orion 12/24-20 would run you about $140 USD and get you about 500W of charging (no reverse charging or fancy app features tho.) If it was $250 USD, I'd buy one without hesitation.
You’ll see a price drop im sure, but it’s the simplicity of being darn near plug and play. Sure there are always cheaper options. It’s like apple, it just all plugs in a works together.
But it can only do 20 amps continuous at most, and that doesn’t include fuse you have to buy and 20 feet or so of 8g wire and terminals. So you’ll need to bump that to over $200 for everything roughly. But you are still only going to get 288 watts @ 14v so unless you are hooking up to a 24v system. This is more for the people who want simple, and are willing to pay for that.
There is always a cheaper option.
@@johnnysweekends A price drop would be nice, but I'm not holding my breath (unfortunately). The main units themselves are reasonably priced considering the all-in-one package you're getting, but the accessories in general are quite expensive (not surprising because they've got you in the ecosystem). ex: $54 CAD for the 2.5m XT60i solar charging cable. That's excessive!
It's been out in China for the last 6 months, the auto charging is still buggy - Chinese ecommerce comments are still critical, I've been waiting for an update before buying over here.
Two cons wire can’t be pass through inside car or van , second it’s only for EcoFlow not any others
If there was only an adapter…🤔
Is this some kind of BOOSTER?
It’s a alternator charger that takes 12v and yes boosts to 48v for Ecoflow products
It’s nice to have 800W output to charge batteries but everyone needs to be warned, 800W is 60 amps coming from the alternator. If the starter battery stays charged when the engine is off it wouldn’t be an issue but if both batteries get drained when engine is off, you will run into overloading the alternator when you start the car.
I could see that as an issue but I think with proper planning that could be avoided. My plan is to use solar plugged into my delta max 2 to basically keep things topped off when the engine isn’t running. I wouldn’t be surprised if there aren’t any safety features built in to reduce this overload though.
Im assuming you can setup charge and discharge shut eventually with firmware up dates. Remember this is still in beta and more app functions will open soon in the coming days.
It is a cool device, but $600 is a bit high.
It will come down 👍🏼
The company should have created an adapter for charging straight out of the cigarette lighter output..
You can charge from 12v socket but only at 126 watts roughly.
It’s just a small wire behind the socket so it can’t handle much.