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This is a full walk-through of the latest from Ecoflow - the alternator charger. It is a 3 in 1 once device that can fast charge your Ecoflow Delta power stations, but also reverse charge your vehicle's battery if it is dead, or can be used as a trickle charger in maintainer mode. This new alternator charger is simple and easy to install and is a great alternative to a dual battery system.
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We just picked up the delta 2 max, an extra battery and the 800w alternator charger on a great Mother’s Day deal. Saved $1149.
Great video.
Convinced me to upgrade my Ecoflow setup in my jeep. Thanks for the discount code. With Ecoflow sale and your code it was a deal I couldn’t pass up!👍
Definitely cool! I see great value for that person that is an avid outdoorsman, off-roader, or overlander that doesn’t want a permanent install or to leave valuable equipment in their vehicle while at work. Personally I have 2x100AH Li house batteries and a Renogy 50A DC-DC Controller w/mppt for my Gladiator. My fridge runs 24/7 and have a 1000w inverter. It’s totally overkill, unless I start taking a microwave, hairdryer, or air fryer on trips, but cost less than most 1000w power stations on the market to assemble. The trade off for a fixed system is “dedicated adventure vehicle” vs using a gladiator as a truck to haul lumber, mulch etc. This definitely seems to bridge that gap for the 90% that use their vehicles for more than adventuring! Great video!
I got lucky and ordered it for $399! I can’t wait for it to come in🤘
As you mentioned Casey, the app should allow a more precise voltage for shutoff in 0.1 volt increments instead of 1volt increments. This would protect the vehicle battery from life shorting deep discharge below 12 volts. If Ecoflow would allow the unit to be adjusted to lets say 12.5 volts for example the vehicle battery would have a much longer life. Keep up your great videos 😀
Awesome.. this will work well with where and how I roll 🤘
how hot did the unit get while max charging (in either direction)? Likely needs open air flow when mounting?
I'm glad someone reviewed this and EcoFlow had some killer bundles with a Delta 2 or Delta 2 max where you get this for almost free. Pecron offers a nice alternative ($134) that is 500 watt and works with any power station as the output is via MC4 connectors so it goes into the solar input (only power stations with a solar input voltage up to 60 VDC) of most brands (Except Jackery unless you have an MC4 to funky Jackery barrel connector adapter).
do you have more details of that Pecron DCDC?
@@markbergman2342 I got mine. The only real setting is a rotary switch that determines when it will send power to your power station. By default it is set to [0] which is 12 to 30 volts. I set mine to [4], which is 13.5V to 17V to ensure that the car battery is never discharged by accident. The biggest difference is that the Eco Flow one is bi-directional and can recharge the car battery which is something the Pecron doesn't do. The Eco Flow is also more efficient. By itself, the Eco Flow one is quite steep, it's almost free with some of the Eco Flow promotions going on the the Delta 2 and Delta 2 Pro.
Great video. Though this is not a game changer, just a improvement (Ecoflow product only) on using an converter from your alternator. Victron has a few DC2DC CONVERTER options which also works. Pecron has a cheaper option (though only 500W) it can be used on all power stations.
I have a DC to DC charger and they absolutely do not operate like this. I'm amazed people with DC to DC chargers are not able to see the difference. This is a game changer but only the start of changes to come in the near future.
@Irideonandon I said DC converter there's a difference. You're correct though looking forward to a generic plug in product with these functions that can charge any power station.
You explained this system better than Ecoflow! I'm glad Ecoflow came out with this system. I like this idea better than solar panels or the Smart Generator!
Thanks!!
Great review thanks 🙏
Thanks for watching!
Question
I don't see the Delta Max battery listed as compatible, only the Delta 2 Max, can you confirm if the Delta Max battery is compatible since it has the correct connector?
I'm not paying 600 dollars for a proprietary Ecoflow only ac charger.
I'm not into the Ecoflow eco system.
I have a mix of Bluetti, Segway, and Jackery.
Thank God Pecron makes one for everyone. 😂 It's only 134.00 after a special coupon.
Reverse charging is not needed when you'll never use it.
Just carry a Lithium battery jump starter. The trickle charging feature is a gimmick. You're draining the power station unless it's hooked up to solar. If it happens during the night? 😮😂
If you lose the unlock clip.
You can use ring pliers
I ordered the Pecron model. Should get here any day now. Ordered on the 10th.
It does charge at a slower rate though. 400 watt or so. I will be using mine to charge my … drum roll … EcoFlow delta from a separate lithium battery. That increases my capacity by 1280 watt. And since my old model Delta only charges at 400 watt anyway, it’s a perfect match.
I run an ecoflow with smart battery (4kw+). Maybe, I’m missing something but I just use a small compact Honda 3000W (EU3200) generator and it charges them around 2000Watts into the batteries. Generally, less than 2 hours, and I’m good for 2 to 4 more days. It uses so little Gas, it can’t be more than a $1 or more to charge. Super cheap, easy, and fast. The generator is so narrow it fits on the floor between my rear seat, back of by truck in the corner, or in a cubby in a trailer.
Is it the Delta 2 Max that you have? Are you saying you can charge the Delta and expansion battery from 0 to 100% in only two hours?
@@joeblow1942 It is never a good idea to run LiPo batteries to zero (0). Sometimes as low as 10 percent sometimes as high as 20 percent …. But yes, about 2 hours plus, sometimes less. The main thing is that they are extremely fast to charge and the ratio of use is about 2 hours of gas generator charging, if we have had ZERO sun; that equates to 2 to 3 days of use which includes multiple microwaves (2 to 4 min each run) Morning and night, multi coffee (KRUPS), theater HomePods (4) speakers running on 110V. with 110V 4K monitor playing up a 4K movie usually a max of one movie at night, lights on… IF there is sun, then I only need 400 Watts on the roof for 5 to 6 hours, March to October, that is and never touch the small Honda EU3000IS generator.
Cost more than this, weighs more and takes up more space. You also have to carry fuel.
@@dubious6718 More fuel? the EU3200I has a small tank and can run 5 to 8 hours way more efficiently/faster than a huge car engine, sucking far more fuel , adding vehicle hours, at best producing maybe only 1/3 (66 percent more charging time required) the wattage with modifications compared to the small generator. That means you spend significantly more fuel, significantly more time charging, which if you are not driving means your car sits and runs for hours with that large engine to charge those Ecoflow Batteries for much longer. Just a gallon or so in that Honda, means you could charge (2) Ecoflow batteries up to 4 Times giving 8 to 12 days of total time on your Ecoflow. You would run out of food in a car before that. IT’s very light weight , easy to pick up with one arm, and small. It fits on the floor between front seat and the rear seat in trucks or even new Bronco.
@@parkcitymacs And is it the Delta 2 Max that you have?
Thanks for the review; I have been thinking about purchasing one of these for my Toyota Tacoma here in Alaska. I noted that you mentioned the operating temperature to be limited at -20° C. You are the first reviewer to mention these operational limitations. The winters here regularly get way below -4° F/-20° C.. So I’m guessing this is not a great fit for Northern climates?
REDARC BCDC is also only down to like -20C.
Curious what the starting battery’s actual voltage is when you set it to 12V or 13V. You don’t want your starting battery to sit below 12..6-12.8V.
I’ve been using the broncos inverter to keep my glacier charged. When I bring my Anker 757 into the vehicle I move that xt60 connector to solar port on the Anker and run a usb-c cable to the glacier. This is way more efficient. I noticed the alternator charge had two outputs and one input. What’s the difference between the outputs? It would be nice they provide an xt150 to xt60 cable
Only 1 output. Theres a comms port rj45.
Daygreen has many of these dc to dc step up chargers for significantly less money. And they work with any power station as kong as the voltage for the mppt controller is compatible.
can this be used with anker?
waiting for the next trail run. keep up the good work. until the next trail. out
Could the six gauge wire be cut to add Anderson connectors if I use this with a pick up truck and a truck camper so I could disconnect it when I take the camper off?
Totally. I don't see why shortening them would not work as long as the Anderson is rated for the amperage the charger needs.
@@Casey250.
I would not necessarily be shortening them because the Ecoflow and charger would be in the truck camper. It would just be a way to be able to disconnect when i take the camper off the truck.
Can it be used with a gas/electric hybrid ?
Paying $600 for a charge controller with the proprietary plug that allows an Ecoflow to be charged at a reasonable rate is extortion. Ecoflow really could just tell us what input terminals will accept the more powerful DC charge. The normal limit of 10A is simply ridiculous. Even a USB-C 3.1 PD wall wart can supply more than the Ecoflow normally will accept.
Any ideas if this is compatible with 3.6L with eTorque? My dealer and Ecoflow tech support can’t answer my question!
If it's got a 12v battery I can't see why not.
Hi 🙂 can i ask please as im not the greatest at understanding electrics. On ecoflows website it says the delta pro charges in 38.5 hours by 12 volt so with this it will charge in around 5 hours ? if so thats a game changer for me 😀
Great video. Very informative.
You guys do know you can buy a dc to dc charger for a lot less? Hell, you could even run a positive and negative cable and an isolator switch from your chassis battery to the back with an Anderson connector. That would still be less than this proprietary thing.
Quite a few companies sell DC-DC in various configurations, as well as some that will also charge from a solar panel. Not quite an earth shattering device. A generic one will work with any backup battery, smart and regular alternator, etc.
I wish this device came out three months ago as that’s when I bought everything using the Victron DC/DC 12/24 volt converter for my EcoFlow Delta 2 Max
You can use them both for 1100w of charging :)
I’m upset that when I have my delta 2 battery dc cable hooked up to its extra battery there is no way to attach a dc cable to the wave 2 for more efficient running you must use the ac connection. Ecoflow can’t think of everything I guess.
Flow offers bundles for the wave. Some of those bundles offer the extra battery and alternator charger together. It appears they are saying the charger can charge the extra battery on the wave. Even if some manual they offer says it can’t do this.
Maybe needs a firmware update I missed. It did nothing when I plugged it in.
@@Casey250 I think it probably does. Last week it offered the bundle, and said the alternator charger would ship at a later date. Today it offers the bundle and does not mention the charger shipping at a later date. It seems likely they have the update and have not sent it out yet.
@@Casey250 are you impressed by the heat output of the wave?
i put a lunsun solar panel on the hood. always keeps battery charged and maintained.
Casey, lets see a install. You have a smart charging battery system...lets see where you are going to put the negative cable?
I not saying anything but this should be interesting! Also do you have the standard alternator or the beefy alternator?
Its probably going in the Demonator so thats a whole other world lol.
Do you think this charger will increase wear on my alternator? Should I upgrade my alternator or limit my use of the charger to protect my alternator? Or do you think I can run this thing as much as I want with no consequences down the road? Thanks.
Depends how close you are to and amps on your alternator I suppose.
Any idea why it’s not compatible with the Wave2 batteries?? That would have been my main reason for purchasing this alternator/charger…
I dunno. I thought it was suppose to be. Maybe I missed a firmware update.
It connects to a Delta series power station using the XT90 connector. It cant connect to a River 2 series because they use an XT60 connector. I'm not sure if the Wave2 has a XT90 connector.
Do you happen to know if it works with a river pro II?
No. Not unless they make some adapter for it.
It connects to a Delta series power station using the XT90 connector. It cant connect to a River 2 series because they use an XT60 connector. Not sure if a XT90 to XT60 (or XT60i) converter would work.
Cool video thanks for the info
You should be able to use this between battery banks, also!
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The best thing is. If you have a delta pro. You can hook up the ev charging port to the pro. And install the 4xE cowel. And then charge your pro at any ev charger like a 4xE. As well as using this alternator charger.
Well that's interesting
In a pinch solar charge ecoflow and reverse charge starter battery
Is there a video that can teach me how to route the cable from the car battery to inside the vehicle so I can charge my power station while I’m driving?
That's going to be so far dependant. If look for a video of routing wiring for maybe a stereo amp for your vehicle. For a jeep I'd go down the frame rail and up the drain plug in the passenger footwell.
As of the date of my reply, there are now multiple videos with details about this charger, and at least two of them show the routing of the wiring from battery through a grommet in the firewall, under the door frame (down by the carpet) to the back of the vehicle.
Does it work with a wave 2 battery
if you go on their website, they have some packages on sale with the wave 2 and the alternator charger together for like $899.00 I think. So im pretty sure its compatible with it.
Great product but poor alternator. It will get very hot. Can you limit the charging speed?
I have several EcoFlow devices but have had issues with them. And reporting the issues to EcoFlow was a non-plus situation. I was told to hold the power button in the off position for 15 seconds then restart to see if that resolved the issue. Problem is I rely on this particular unit to power my lift chair and can no longer rely on it as it has quit several times for no reason. I merely disconnected it and will only use it when there is no other source of power. I can no longer have devices connected all the time while the unit is plugged into grid. What a shame. I had high hopes for EcoFlow, however I've been disappointed. When the unit fails, I cannot get out of my lift chair to plug the chair into grid power and am stuck in the chair. I must phone someone to come and make the changes. EcoFlow didn't seem to be helpful or even concerned that their equipment failed. For me, EcoFlow is not a brand I can recommend any longer. This video reminds me of the way you are handled when you contact them. The channel owner was left without answers and trailed off the video with uncertainty. This is much the way I came to view their products.
Do you know what the impact on your alternator would be after prolonged use?
Depends on the vehicle and what your charge rate is. If I'm charging the Ecoflow off my alternator at 14v, 300w, that means I'm pulling around ~20amps. If your vehicle has a smaller alternator like mine (05 GMC canyon with 100amp alternator). That means I'm using almost 1/4 the alternators capability. With the increased strain on the alternator, you will experience faster wear and could shorten the lifespan. I plan on upgrading to a 200-300amp to reduce the stress on the alternator and increase reliability.
@@randythraen216I have dual alternator on my power wagon, 400 amps from the factory, nice to have when winching, great option.
Thanks nice to know details like that
Why did that make this cable flat!!!! Makes it not able to use NPT glands for pass through into the truck bed.
Goal Zero makes an alternator charging kit that fast charges also.
yippee good video
Pecron has this as well and it works with any power station. Charges 500 watts and only cost $135 not $600.
They have a very low 1 star rating. Because they charge your card without having any in stock. Wouldn't try buying from them.
@@nancydavies336 Ok I have bought several power stations and solar panels from them never had any problems. I had a damaged power station by fed ex's delivery idiot. I returned it to pecron and they sent me a new one. No charge to me they paid everything to ship back just like there warranty says.
As an EcoFlow rep, it might be a good idea to get it running properly and know what it's supposed to do prior to reviewing it. Just sayin'.
this is now the standard... even through its brand new...
dual battery? insane.
orion dc-dc? the og and cheaper but...
this boosts way more power and is the most plug n play... worth 600$(1000$ for a whole 800wh system) for essentially infinite power
EcoFlow just needs to have a trigger wire that you connect to a power source that is only on with your cars accessories. That way it will know when the engine is off and stop charging.
Most DCDC Chargers do that now….
A trigger would be perfect. I wonder what the cat5 remote port is capable of.
Can this device operate off a free standing battery? In other words not my car battery.
Yes. That would be the same scenario as when my jeep was off. As long as it is 12v.
@@Casey250 Sorry for the delay. Getting ready to make a journey in a van. Hope to see Alaska before I bite the bullet. Thank you for great way of delivering info and the answer.
I am not happy with my ecoflows - they have had their fair issues that ended in RMAs for me… some simple (non-chinese) battery for around half price hasn’t got any features or app connection but hasn’t broken yet… subjective I know, but objectively happened to me
Always appreciate hearing the stories
60 deg c? thats normal for texas summers.
You don't want to try to get your vehicle battery below 12V. You really don't want it much below 12.5V
GREAT VIDEO...HOWEVER THERE IS ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE DC TO DC SMART CHARGER MADE BY PECRON AND GOES FOR $130 ALTHOUGH ITS 500W AND NOT 800W
The EcoFlow alternator charger is good.
Downside: only works with EcoFlow. Expensive.
Positive: interesting app features to fine tune the charging. Highest charge rate.
Risk: double check your alternator specs. You don’t want to draw too many amps from it. My sailboat only has a 60amp alternator
So I just bought the Wave 2 with the battery and the alternator charger as a package and the alternator charger doesn’t work with the Wave 2 battery? That’s pretty much false advertising in my book. Once they actually send me the alternator charger it looks like I’ll be sending it all back. I don’t have a Delta and don’t have room in my Jeep for one of I want to take the Wave 2. Without the alternator charger the Wave 2 is not going to work for multi-day trips, which was why I bought the package in the first place.
I have a River 2 Pro, but it looks like it won’t charge it either.
Pretty crummy EcoFlow!
I would love for Casey to follow up on this and confirm, it does seem really weird that Ecoflow would sell it as a bundle if they don’t work together. They even advertise it as “1 hour of driving gives 5 hours of cooling”. Casey please test this if possible or contact Ecoflow for further explanation. Thanks!
I dont believe you have anything to worry about. I think where he got mixed up was trying to "run" direct from the charger. you cant run the AC and charge at the same time👍🏽
I'll check it out when I'm back home. I need to see if my wave 2 battery needs a firmware update to recognize it.
Why not just use a Microcare energy dc-dc charger
Great unit but like others said $599 to much in comparison with other units.
This is better value. PECRON 500W Car Charger DC1242-500 for Cars, RVs, Trucks, etc. $149 Not as fast charging as the ecoflow. There a few videos on YT for this. Pity it is not yet available in Australia.
Its Its nothing but a step up modules and a compaciter 60 bucks would make one ,no fancy bluetooth 😂
I'm pretty sure the alternator charger should stop charging the ecoflow when the engine is not running. It's actually rather concerning that it kept charging the ecoflow overnight.... (Yes, I see that the charge ramp down, but still, if the engine is stopped, the charger should stop charging too)
It stops eventually 🤷♂️
@@Casey250 Yes, it'll stop when the car battery's voltage eventually drops below the threshold you set in the app. But, what it should do, is stop charging when the engine stops. This is what Ecoflow told me when I talked to them. It's also what I saw in other youtuber's videos. You should ask them when it's still charging when the engine stops because that's concerning.
Great video! As a retired mechanic, I see some potential issues. Vehicle alternators are designed to keep the vehicle battery topped up, but can handle some high charge situations for short periods of time. When you hooked up the eco flow battery cables in parallel you essentially now have a dual battery system. The alternator can’t tell the difference between the batteries, thus it will charge the batteries up until fully charged. When this is happening, the vehicle battery is also receiving the high charge thus producing the negative effect of too much heat for the vehicle batteries and alternator. Over the years I have changed dozens of vehicle alternators and batteries due to having one battery being charged up too often , the fix was one alternator and 2 batteries, ouch! Hopefully ecoflow has some sort of setting that would prevent this, otherwise the risk is too high and expensive if you are going to charge through ecoflow from a low state of charge. Can anyone address this ?
There are much better DC-DC chargers in the market than what's reviewed here. For example, both Renogy and Victron have chargers with hardwired voltage sensing options--that is, as soon you turn off the engine, the unit automatically turns off. Renogy units even have current limiting and turn-off options when the engine is on. It seems to me, the Ecoflow is a bit behind given this is their first DC-DC charger.
Glad you spoke up. Hope you get more feedback so we can all benefit
@@ozmanfidaar6311this isn’t a regular DCDC charger. It is 12V to 40-60V so it can charge the Ecoflow. Quite different than a regular DCDC application. Also it is about 65A at 12V output which is higher than any regular DCDC chargers which are normally 25-40A. Renogy has a 60A. You can’t use a regular DCDC without a voltage converter.
It is potentially an issue to draw this much 65A current continuously from an alternator for several hours. I think that is why most DCDC units are lower output. Even the units get hot and this one is smaller than a Redarc, Renogy, Victron or CTEK however this outputs higher voltage 40/60V and lower current which would help with sizing and heat.
Looking forward to long term review here...
This has been out in China for 6 months, but the reviews are bad due to a buggy auto charging implementation...
Hoping they fixed that before international roll out...
If so game changer!
Why would I pay $600 for this when I can hook a 12v inverter directly to the battery. 1000w inverter ÷ 14.4 v = 69 amps, for under $100. What am I missing, the reverse flow?, can plug in my charger to the inverter😮
800w sounds too good, it will burden your agm battery and alternator a lot
Have this been tested on EV Vehicles?
i thinking to use it on my ev, think the same as you
Guys I'm going to say this because I'm sure Casey probably cant....With a $150 dollar 1000 watt pure sign wave inverter added to your Jeep you can charge any power station at 1000 watts instead of just 800 watts for 599.00....Sorry but they lost me on this when I saw it was 599.00
EDIT: After watching the full video, Thanks for putting this out for everyone to see. I have the Delta 2Max and the wave 2 love them both. I wish they would add a remote switch or wire so you can turn it on or off with a switch pod or just a mechanical switch that would easily solve the power drain problem. Also I believe you can use the DC to DC cord to charge the Wave 2's battery....Eco flow sells a kit with it all together-- wave 2, the add on battery and the charger, it would be a shame if they didn't work together. I dont believe you can run the AC and charge at the same time... I just ordered the $130.00 Cable to run my wave 2 off the Delta max from DC....If I cant do that I'll be sending EVERYTHING back ...surely they had the foresight for that. Anyway thanks for the content you're one of my favorite channels!!!
Have look at this. I went the inverter route before this was available. PECRON 500W Car Charger DC1242-500 for Cars, RVs, Trucks, etc.
Pecron makes a 500 watt alternator charger for 149. New for 2024.
Very simply made. No fancy Bluetooth and wifi.
Well, I guess the thing being able to reverse charge and trickle charge makes it worthwhile.
Also, I couldn’t charge my Delta 1300 using the inverter method you described. Don’t remember now why it wouldn’t work though.
@joeblow1942
600 dollars for reverse and trickle charging?
Why don't you carry a brick sized jump starter instead of depleting the power station?
If you're at home, why would you leave the power station on for days and weeks at a time just to trickle charge the battery?
How are you charging the power station a while depleting it?
Just use a regular trickle charger or solar controller on your jeep.
LoL! You may have heard of RTFM? It's RESPECT The Effing MANUAL... and not just READ it! I write manuals and it takes a LOT of work thinking logically and editing it all just do that it makes sense, and in the hope that you'all don't have it over your shoulder and kill your dog! Be nice!
Another wheel reinvention. LOL A proper (engine room) dual battery system and a low frequency inverter (w/shore charge capability) eliminates the need for any of this.
And for half the cost at least.
But I’m an Ecowhore-ohaulic!!
Crazy commenter is right this charger is highly overpriced. It sobs and excellent solution but fails on cost. My EcoFlow Max is good but its main flaw is you are forced to spend more big money for a fair solution. If you get an extra overpriced Battery the battery no outlets. ! Pisses me off go ahead suckers carry around 150 lbs. or buy this overpriced charger. They will gouge you!
U got know idea what ur talking about
Your first consideration should be solving parasitic loads with a solar panel, it may work simply to connect one into the lighter socket or you may need to hard wire it under the covers.
So why dose my alternator need charged? Silly marketing stuff here. Are they using the English language and logic?
They were trying to describe a charger that uses alternator without using too many words.
See... I need friends like this.