Lol nice seeing you two together , vids from both of you are nice to watch but is a pain to make sometimes lol , good luck and g'day to both of you and may you find peace in the domain :3
They wouldn’t know who they were as odd and spooks have the name hider on which randomizes their names. But I guarantee that definitely made that Sherman’s day.
*Spookston shoots a sherman directly in the ammo stowage, detonating 6 shells which would 100% turn the tanks' crew into a fine sauce* Gaijin: "looks like a hit to me"
Gaijin having made this godawful solid shot the default shell for shermans is honestly a crime. I am not necessarily against (but also not in favour) of having to grind for a good shell, but in those situations at the very least the default shell should be good too. The british having to suffer through 4 shells before finally getting their APDS is ridiculous. Meanwhile the sermany that guffers starts out with their best shell almost without exception in that same BR range.
@@raketny_hvost I think starting out with a slightly downgraded shell is fine, a good example would be for example the british with their mk8 shell on the 17 pounder. It is still a very good shell, while also very useable. And then you have to work towards the APDS shell meaning you just need to grind ONE shell, not the 4 they have to grind now, I think that's a fair balance if gaijin does so badly want to have shells as modifications you need to research. Another example would be how in MBT's you start out with HEATFS, in my opinion you should start out with the weaker dart (which most if not all MBT's have) and then possibly grind towards the better dart. You can still do well enough with the weaker dart. The problem with stuff like the british mk6 and the MBT's starting with HEATFS is that it makes them downright combat ineffective. The shells aren't just a small downgrade from their normal shells, they are barely useable in the BR's they are used in.
@@Gary_The_Metro lower mbt brs I don't think it's a big deal to start out with heatfs, but when chemical armor is everywhere hearfs is almost useless and darts should be the stock round.
GOD I remember the time where Gaijin switched my shell loadouts and it replaced my APCBC with solid AP. I wasn't aware that they did it and the amount of times I should've gotten the kill but instead get killed was painfully stacked upon me
A little fact, The M62 (APHE) used to be stock ammo, and the M79 (AP) needs to be researched to unlock. They patched it a few months ago; now, the M79 is in stock, and the M62 needs to be researched.
Which only makes grinding the M4A2/3 (76) particularly painful. Getting constantly uptiered, and not being able to do jackshit to any of the tanks on that BR. And they say that Germany suffers...
merry christmas spookston!! thank you for your great content, and please do some more collabs with Odd in the future!! you guys are amazing (also, you should put a bunch of bushes on the front of an ASU-57 or m22 and hide and snipe some people, it’s so hard to find the small tanks) :D
The solid shot for the Sherman's used to be so SO god damn good But Gaijin had to remove that with the entire solid shot rebalance under the guise of "Mechanical Changes"
Honestly, a good balancing for the solid AP would be to make it similar to HESH in that it doesn't have to pen to cause spalling on the inside, if only a little to only injure a crew member. I've seen many simulations on youtube (great source, I know) where rounds doesn't pen at all, but still rips off fragments on the other side of the armor and shoots towards the crew, much like a HESH round would. So, make solid AP cause less spalling than HESH, but still reward near penetrations with an otherwise mostly useless round using an interesting mechanic.
@@raketny_hvost yeah. One of the reasons the British used solid shot is that in testing the aphe and solid shot were so similar in performance that they decided to stick with solid shot
@@steveshumate1983 not really. APHE had a lot of issues those times, including "not-like-war-thunder" damage and situations when fuse didn't work. Also all this stuff decreased piercing as explosive AP was a bit lighter. Finally everybody started to produce APFSDS, but idk is it more expensive and rare than same HEATs because i herd tankers use HEAT more often in Ukraine for ex.
The damage problem in Warthunder is as old as ground forces themselves, it's a combination of 2 things 1) Crewmembers can survive far too many fragments without being knocked out 2) Crews do not bail even if more than half of the crew is dead and the remaining crew is injured. The resulting situation is that tanks in general are bullet sponges which take far more penetrating hits to take out disable than they should. APHE is the exception because it deals an absurd amount of post-pen damage but it actually makes it perform more realistically overall because it can reliably one-shot tanks unlike other shells.
@@KekusMagnus I won't agree that APHE behave realistically as bigger calibers have more issues making them difficult to use, than supremacies, while lower caliber do too bog amount of damage. This may represent real behaviour of crew (but not even always), but not real power of shells, also breaking game balance, when 75mm stick damages equally to 120+mm mauls
nice video as always spookston, and i have a suggestion for a vehicle too! if you want, can you play the swedish meatball launcher aka the bkan 1c? thank you!
@@ffenixfubuki Shot mk 8 for the 17 pounder the main shell everyone uses is APCBC(Amor Piercing Capped Ballistic Capped). The 2 and 6 pounder also use APCBC. The 20 pounders APCBC will straight nuke tanks.
This has been one of my favorite videos done by either of you. Spook having so much painfilled fun is so endearing and heartwarming!! Happy holidays to both of you.
1:25 Spoopston lmao. You and Oddbawz make a really funny combo, I could see you both with IronArmenian and Phly having a ball playing. Anyways great videos as always Spook
gaijin realized that everyone ignored this crappy round so they did the only logical thing and made it stock to try to make the grind more frustrating so people would by GE components. Genius!
The more WT game play videos I watch the more I enjoy collabs and group play over single creator videos. The shared joy and pain are just more fun to watch. When it’s a review single creator is obviously better. But challenges and general gameplay are so much more fun to watch with back and forth.
When I finally unlocked the M10, I had to spend GE to unlock the APHE shell because it was that bad, I was so miserable and I kept dying so much that I just had to take the coward's way out and spend money, good grief
I was in a Sherman Firefly shooting the flat side of some American Sherman and i shot his ammo 4 times and they were still just red before he turned and 1 shotted me.
4:17 Come again? It ricocheted off the side of the mantlet and then started to ignore matter and physics and went through the whole turret. Its already bad enough when 150+pen rounds fail to go through a Tiger front plate just cuz they love tapped that angled plate but this a whole new level of volumetric working as intended...
This round used to have higher penetration as a trade-off against the APHE, but then Gaijin changed a bunch of shells around. Now it's completely pointless. Well, it's sometimes free where the APHE has a price, but you still won't use the uncapped AP because it sucks.
Maybe you could build on this video and also play an M48 (or the Israeli Magachs to have more tanks in the lineup) which has a great stock shell as well? Should be fun (at least for people watching it xD)
When I was new I thought regular solid shot ap was the best shell to use and naturally I was basically just fuming like every game because I couldn't get any kills for like 200 games until I figured it out. Smoke is litterly a more capable shell then ap on the 76 Sherman. I have killed planes with smoke. Wont kill a plane with ap
Alright. Same tanks, but with aphe so everyone can appreciate just how different the performance is. Also, I really enjoy the way you react to this game. My group of friends makes it sound like an old school mw2 lobby when they non-pen due to tracks.
That moment at 0:55 reminded me of a match I had last week, an enemy player was very upset in chat about being unable to penetrate a Leopard 1 when they hit my turret cheek. when I shot and destroyed their tank they followed up with "Oh, it was a Conqueror, my bad" and we had a lovely exchange in chat after that XD
The firefly Sherman and the Tipo have this problem to extreme degrees because non explosive ammos is the only ammo given to them. They have no place on the BR they’re at.
i really wanna see a Vidieo comparing Tankettes, a video seeing what tanks are best to punch up and get God mode awards , and fast wheelie bois like the rooicat
Video Ideas: Playing the KV2 but only using AP or just regular gameplay with tanks that you enjoy. Cus you beeing you is very chill and enjoyable ( ur memes are god tear funny and discribe the game well). In conclusion: I enjoyed your Video ^^
2 hours before release I unlocked this vehicle and I'm like damn this gets sold shot with 130mm at this br meanwhile you have vk3002m with 192mm aphe pen stock
Solid shot pain can be experienced in a Churchill VII! With armor to prevent it from being lowered in BR, it lacks the speed to properly flank enemies and is armed with the cannon of 103mm max pen.
This was equal extreme measures of fun and pain all at the same time! You made this challenge actually bearable and that's a huge compliment! 😂
How you guys do more videos together. Really enjoyed it.
I love you OddBawZ
Lol nice seeing you two together , vids from both of you are nice to watch but is a pain to make sometimes lol , good luck and g'day to both of you and may you find peace in the domain :3
Why don't you both go out with the APHE for therapy and rip some face?
Whatch ur vid first
Spookston and Oddbawz is a duo I didn't know I needed, but which I love
A surprise to be sure, but a welcomed one
Spook there's a bot in your Russian Nuke tank vid on my comment just so know
Literally.
Samesi
I’m your 1,000th like : )
Tank crew: **gets a 3 inch wide 15 pound solid chunk of metal shot through their chest**
Also tank crew: tis but a scratch
Imagine flipping by a bomb and then getting rescued by Spookston and OddBawZ like those Norwegian road rescue dudes
They wouldn’t know who they were as odd and spooks have the name hider on which randomizes their names. But I guarantee that definitely made that Sherman’s day.
@@Godofchaosdragons yeah it definitely did
I've gotten to rescue one person like that with the help of a teamate
Spookston content is enjoyable
I concur
Quite delectable it is
It’s exquisite
Rather dashing
Oddbawz content is also enjoyable
*Spookston shoots a sherman directly in the ammo stowage, detonating 6 shells which would 100% turn the tanks' crew into a fine sauce*
Gaijin: "looks like a hit to me"
"wets ammo rack"
@@betteroywoth2445 that tank HAD to have had the wettest ammo rack known to man
@@Germangamer-gn9ks no different then the stug ammo rack
@@Germangamer-gn9ks the shells were just full of water
@@MsZsc the projectile didnt even exist instead of ammo they accidentally loaded water. just water. no projectile in the casing no, just fucking water
“A glorified cannon ball” 💀 this is why I watch you, and the edits are equally funny
Lol 0.5 seconds after i read your comment i heard him say that🤣
That round...
Its like throwing a depressed stone at a tank
armored fighting vehicle vs drafted pebble
Gaijin having made this godawful solid shot the default shell for shermans is honestly a crime. I am not necessarily against (but also not in favour) of having to grind for a good shell, but in those situations at the very least the default shell should be good too.
The british having to suffer through 4 shells before finally getting their APDS is ridiculous. Meanwhile the sermany that guffers starts out with their best shell almost without exception in that same BR range.
But you should be against grinding good shell. How the fuq tank should fight if it hasn't gun neither repair kits. Just HOW??
@@raketny_hvost I think starting out with a slightly downgraded shell is fine, a good example would be for example the british with their mk8 shell on the 17 pounder. It is still a very good shell, while also very useable. And then you have to work towards the APDS shell meaning you just need to grind ONE shell, not the 4 they have to grind now, I think that's a fair balance if gaijin does so badly want to have shells as modifications you need to research.
Another example would be how in MBT's you start out with HEATFS, in my opinion you should start out with the weaker dart (which most if not all MBT's have) and then possibly grind towards the better dart. You can still do well enough with the weaker dart.
The problem with stuff like the british mk6 and the MBT's starting with HEATFS is that it makes them downright combat ineffective. The shells aren't just a small downgrade from their normal shells, they are barely useable in the BR's they are used in.
@@Gary_The_Metro TL;DR tanks should start out with mid shells instead of god awful shells or the best shells they have.
@@Gary_The_Metro lower mbt brs I don't think it's a big deal to start out with heatfs, but when chemical armor is everywhere hearfs is almost useless and darts should be the stock round.
M48 fans starting with apcr
The fact they used this round to justify basically raising every single 76mm US tank still pisses me off to this day.
Pigjin, nothing changes
and then they made it the stock shell instead of the aphe. aint that something huh
I quit the game because of this change because all I had were 76s and it’s unplayable vs comparable Germans and soviet tanks
@@dansmagicalcreations2162 it's the same with British tanks but everything is better at everything
@@alternaTito they forgor to do it on the M6A1
GOD I remember the time where Gaijin switched my shell loadouts and it replaced my APCBC with solid AP. I wasn't aware that they did it and the amount of times I should've gotten the kill but instead get killed was painfully stacked upon me
Yeah, I didn’t even notice at first.
A little fact, The M62 (APHE) used to be stock ammo, and the M79 (AP) needs to be researched to unlock. They patched it a few months ago; now, the M79 is in stock, and the M62 needs to be researched.
this change alone made the late 75mm shermans barely usable
Which only makes grinding the M4A2/3 (76) particularly painful. Getting constantly uptiered, and not being able to do jackshit to any of the tanks on that BR. And they say that Germany suffers...
"I'm gonna do something incredibly stupid."
"Play War Thunder?"
Sums up the whole wt fanbase in two sentences.
Gaijin and Fun are two words that dont mix
merry christmas spookston!! thank you for your great content, and please do some more collabs with Odd in the future!! you guys are amazing
(also, you should put a bunch of bushes on the front of an ASU-57 or m22 and hide and snipe some people, it’s so hard to find the small tanks) :D
The solid shot for the Sherman's used to be so SO god damn good
But Gaijin had to remove that with the entire solid shot rebalance under the guise of "Mechanical Changes"
Changes that curiously just so happened to nerf every single American tank while buffing every single German with no resulting BR adjustments.
@@hedgehog3180 US tanks get access to APHE...French and British do not so who really got nerfed
This is basically the viewpoint of new players trying these vehicles at stock
4:17 that shell replay lol, just went through the turret without damaging it like it was in some other dimension
Awesome to see more gameplay videos, especially with Oddbawz, would love to see you try out the CA Lorraine, a nice underestimated TD.
Honestly, a good balancing for the solid AP would be to make it similar to HESH in that it doesn't have to pen to cause spalling on the inside, if only a little to only injure a crew member. I've seen many simulations on youtube (great source, I know) where rounds doesn't pen at all, but still rips off fragments on the other side of the armor and shoots towards the crew, much like a HESH round would.
So, make solid AP cause less spalling than HESH, but still reward near penetrations with an otherwise mostly useless round using an interesting mechanic.
No, this is stupid. APs should just have more piercing and good damage. Explosive APs in game already have much more damage than they had IRL
@@raketny_hvost yeah. One of the reasons the British used solid shot is that in testing the aphe and solid shot were so similar in performance that they decided to stick with solid shot
@@steveshumate1983 not really. APHE had a lot of issues those times, including "not-like-war-thunder" damage and situations when fuse didn't work. Also all this stuff decreased piercing as explosive AP was a bit lighter. Finally everybody started to produce APFSDS, but idk is it more expensive and rare than same HEATs because i herd tankers use HEAT more often in Ukraine for ex.
The damage problem in Warthunder is as old as ground forces themselves, it's a combination of 2 things
1) Crewmembers can survive far too many fragments without being knocked out
2) Crews do not bail even if more than half of the crew is dead and the remaining crew is injured.
The resulting situation is that tanks in general are bullet sponges which take far more penetrating hits to take out disable than they should. APHE is the exception because it deals an absurd amount of post-pen damage but it actually makes it perform more realistically overall because it can reliably one-shot tanks unlike other shells.
@@KekusMagnus I won't agree that APHE behave realistically as bigger calibers have more issues making them difficult to use, than supremacies, while lower caliber do too bog amount of damage. This may represent real behaviour of crew (but not even always), but not real power of shells, also breaking game balance, when 75mm stick damages equally to 120+mm mauls
Even tho i stopped playing WT ages ago, i still do love watching you and Oddbawz, pls keep this combo going i love it
Yooo, I think a Churchill VII video would be rather cool, would be nice to see you work around the solid shot pain and the ungodly thick armour
The solid shot isn't a pain, it's the 103mm of pen at 4.7
nice video as always spookston, and i have a suggestion for a vehicle too! if you want, can you play the swedish meatball launcher aka the bkan 1c? thank you!
the Bacon 1c is a force of nature and Herring
Merry Christmas spookston! Hope you have a great day
You too!
Imagine suffering like british and frencj without your guaranteed 1 shot aphe
They have capped shells which have better damage presets. France is my second most played tree.
@@Spookstonnot France 🤨
@@Spookston i never used the capped british stuff... it's not even available at stuff like the avenger and other tanks around that BR
Me who suffers through Japan, have started to play china just to get the good of both US and USSR
@@ffenixfubuki Shot mk 8 for the 17 pounder the main shell everyone uses is APCBC(Amor Piercing Capped Ballistic Capped). The 2 and 6 pounder also use APCBC. The 20 pounders APCBC will straight nuke tanks.
honestly Spook and Bawz are that duo you never expected to see, yet one we all needed in our lives
This has been one of my favorite videos done by either of you. Spook having so much painfilled fun is so endearing and heartwarming!! Happy holidays to both of you.
1:25 Spoopston lmao. You and Oddbawz make a really funny combo, I could see you both with IronArmenian and Phly having a ball playing. Anyways great videos as always Spook
gaijin realized that everyone ignored this crappy round so they did the only logical thing and made it stock to try to make the grind more frustrating so people would by GE components. Genius!
sigma snail marketing strategy
@lnboxmeontele_gramofficial6593 fake spookton!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's official, the "Spook-bawz" duo are back!
Or Odd-Ston. Wow 1 year late lol.
Need more duo content.....it's a Masterpiece 👌🏾
That last little laugh from spookston was adorable
This shell gives me flashbacks of the old british solid shot grind. the mandatory crew sniping is so painful.
The more WT game play videos I watch the more I enjoy collabs and group play over single creator videos. The shared joy and pain are just more fun to watch.
When it’s a review single creator is obviously better. But challenges and general gameplay are so much more fun to watch with back and forth.
When I finally unlocked the M10, I had to spend GE to unlock the APHE shell because it was that bad, I was so miserable and I kept dying so much that I just had to take the coward's way out and spend money, good grief
They played you like a fiddle.
I was in a Sherman Firefly shooting the flat side of some American Sherman and i shot his ammo 4 times and they were still just red before he turned and 1 shotted me.
Really loving these longer videos!
As if the Easy 8 wasnt rough enough at 5.7
Merry Christmas spookston
Merry Christmas Spookston, hope you you have a nice day.
I love watching you guys play together and seen odds video on this and was laughing and now it’s time to see your video😂
these gaming videos are great, love them... wish you played more british stuff though :)
truly memorable words of wisdom: "bueh"
Merry Christmas Spook, always love your videos. You think you could play the Mars 15? I just unlocked it and I'm struggling.
Could you possibly try playing the churchill mk 7 since that uses the american 75's solid shot
spookston giggling when using rockets gives me life
4:17 Come again? It ricocheted off the side of the mantlet and then started to ignore matter and physics and went through the whole turret. Its already bad enough when 150+pen rounds fail to go through a Tiger front plate just cuz they love tapped that angled plate but this a whole new level of volumetric working as intended...
Merry Christmas spookston and everyone
Great editing.
This round used to have higher penetration as a trade-off against the APHE, but then Gaijin changed a bunch of shells around. Now it's completely pointless. Well, it's sometimes free where the APHE has a price, but you still won't use the uncapped AP because it sucks.
It'd be pretty funny to see you shred the enemy team using an M22 gremli- i mean locust
8:10 crewman having a tank round go right through their skull: this is fine
Another upload W
Ah yes, solid shot for the US 75 and 76. Le pain
Daddy spookston
🤨
2:26
That's the most pained and sincere "Nope" I've ever heard. I love it.
your gameplay videos reinforce why I don't play this game anymore
Merry Christmas Spookston 🙂
Merry Christmas man
@@Spookston the meme sounds are pefection
Maybe you could build on this video and also play an M48 (or the Israeli Magachs to have more tanks in the lineup) which has a great stock shell as well? Should be fun (at least for people watching it xD)
I love being able to watch both points of view when u play with another creator
cool even WT creators being used for scams now lol
"beuh" is also a French slang word for weed. Although I doubt it's what bob meant, so Odd is def right in saying that bob failed typing "bruh".
THis was a very enjoyable video. You know, OddBawZ had a point, for another video: you two take the same tanks but APHE just to have some fun.
I have been looking forward to this.
The stock Swedish round also leaves me questioning life...
When I was new I thought regular solid shot ap was the best shell to use and naturally I was basically just fuming like every game because I couldn't get any kills for like 200 games until I figured it out. Smoke is litterly a more capable shell then ap on the 76 Sherman. I have killed planes with smoke. Wont kill a plane with ap
Nice! Saw Odds video already but had no time at that point to watch yours.
Thank you, Algorithm. :)
"I don't have any wood" -Spookston 2022
Alright. Same tanks, but with aphe so everyone can appreciate just how different the performance is.
Also, I really enjoy the way you react to this game. My group of friends makes it sound like an old school mw2 lobby when they non-pen due to tracks.
Yo please do more videos like this, their hilarious and entertaining
Merry Christmas spooks!
That moment at 0:55 reminded me of a match I had last week, an enemy player was very upset in chat about being unable to penetrate a Leopard 1 when they hit my turret cheek.
when I shot and destroyed their tank they followed up with "Oh, it was a Conqueror, my bad" and we had a lovely exchange in chat after that XD
ah yes, my Favorite War Thunder TH-camr out there! Ryan7538!
8:18 That wood/iron bar ate your shot.... twice
yeah i suffered with this shell a lot.
Almost made me give up on the US tree.
The firefly Sherman and the Tipo have this problem to extreme degrees because non explosive ammos is the only ammo given to them. They have no place on the BR they’re at.
Merry Christmas Spookston! Glad I could spent some of mine watching your videos
"Its a glorified cannonball".
Summary of the video
i really wanna see a Vidieo comparing Tankettes, a video seeing what tanks are best to punch up and get God mode awards , and fast wheelie bois like the rooicat
I’m glad he put “not your door” cause I was watching this and actually thought it was the door getting knocked on XD
Bruh the M79 rounds make you suffer more then Gaijin logic in more ways then one.
8:17 *shoots steel debris*
8:25 *shoots same debris again* *Blames it on his friends barrel*
We don't take accountability for our actions round these parts
0:53 Still waiting on that War Thunder Driving School video, Spook
Love the raw videos, Merry Christmas, you should play France 6.7 for max suffering.
Merry tankmas Spookston! Love your content and hope you have a good day
Video Ideas: Playing the KV2 but only using AP or just regular gameplay with tanks that you enjoy. Cus you beeing you is very chill and enjoyable ( ur memes are god tear funny and discribe the game well). In conclusion: I enjoyed your Video ^^
The grinds with the late Sherman's just to get heat are so frustrating
9040 Bill, no doubt its a goofy autocanon vehicle
I don’t know why but something about 2 Sherman’s helping out a 3rd Sherman just seems so wholesome for some reason, great video though
2 hours before release I unlocked this vehicle and I'm like damn this gets sold shot with 130mm at this br meanwhile you have vk3002m with 192mm aphe pen stock
Solid shot pain can be experienced in a Churchill VII! With armor to prevent it from being lowered in BR, it lacks the speed to properly flank enemies and is armed with the cannon of 103mm max pen.
Laughed my ass off, and you make playing WT more enjoyable... because we know damn wells the Devs dont lmao
9:54 that last laugh was wholesome
Spookston you could try out the jagdtiger or Ferdinand.
8:08 Ooooaaaeeeeehhhhhaaaweeeoooweeeooolllllll perfectly reasonable response to that
Impressive, very nice. Now let's see an APCR vid.
Only vehicles I went straight to shot for rather than parts and FPE
The seal meme made me cry 😭😭😭😭
Though I have been told British rounds are better, my skill is a lot worse so I feel your pain. Good to see WT made you happy @2:44
Try 4.3 and 4.7 Britain ground forces next
Your memes keep me going man