Oz machine company doesn't have a giant production company like benchmade or spyderco he's one guy with a few employees to assemble, sharpening, ano. The fact he's made 2k knives is amazing
Yes, this exactly. I literally just opened my first Rosie for the first time about 2 minutes ago, & I'm super impressed. And no, I didn't pay an exorbitant amount for it, because I found someone really cool who sold me this one, which has custom work done on the clip & spacer, for a very reasonable price. But people are gonna charge & pay what they're gonna pay.
The reason for the low production is due to the fact that Daniel Osborne makes every single Roosevelt to each customer’s specifications in his own shop using his own machines in Indiana. He essentially doing the same thing that the Grimsmo bros., Holt Bladeworks, etc. are doing, and his prices are right in line with other high end, low production, semi-custom, CNC made American knife company’s.
I think this would be a better and more refined design of the lock bar cut out was on the inside of the scale. It certainly seems easier in my mind to do the cutout on the outside. You know who does the best lock bar cutout in my opinion Chris Reeve, he did invent the Frame lock, the Reeve Integral lock.
I wonder if the hype is real for Koenig knives as well. I hadn't hardly heard of these brands except to occasionally check sale listings and have my eyes bulge out in shock at the prices.
I love the design, but it puts you up in the price range of the brown fsd, Koenig arius, holts, shamwaris and others that are actually giving you even better ergos and tolerances. I’ve got an arius currently that I paid $800 for with a second milled ti scale and it’s a much more comfortable knife with insane action and detent. IMO, the arius is the best production knife out. They just fit in hand immaculately. Right now, I’m hunting a mini fsd-i and a gen 2 or 3 lamia.
I handled one of these last year at the River's Edge Cutlery meetup. I don't get it either. It felt like a very soulless design. It didn't have any appeal to me at all. I don't get it. While I was checking it out, the owner was checking out my Norseman. Which I totally feel justifies the price. It's weird how the Norseman feels worth it to me, and this doesn't.
I’m thinking of picking up another AD20.5 and getting some Rockscales Straight Titanium scales for it. If I do I think I will send them to Way of Knife and have them do an Ano job. Their website shows they can put the pattern of the Rosie on my scales so I’m trying to decide if I want that or just by the Rockscales with the “Critter” milling.
Just my 2 cents, but Tactical is has a massive warehouse in Texas with dozens of employees and machines. Their scale is easily 10x + what OZ Machine has at this moment in time.
I have several high end knives that I feel justify the price with simple designs. I also have several TwoSuns and a Titanium Kubey Tityus that I feel are more appealing and just as well made.
It comes down to the fact he hasn’t got the same amount of production capacity as some people might think not intentionally being made slowly just to keep the price high. Plus it’s what he thinks his workmanship is actually worth, not what the mass majority of knife people think who are so used to picking up mass production thus cheaper costing knives. I do agree it isn’t what you would call a budget knife or a mid range knife but that all depends on what you class as a midrange price! For me personally it’s £300-700 anything about is high end. So by that math a budget knife is anything that is from £5-£300 which is bonkers when I see it in writing but that’s only because I have been collecting so long budget used to be from £5-£80 and midrange was £80-£250 and my highest was £250-£600 maximum and no more end of story. But as we all know that just falls by the way side the longer you get sucked into the knife world.
100% agree with you, nothing innovative, for my eyes looks ugly and cant justify the price not even for if it had an exotic steel or something. I appreciate that everything is done in house but still hate this type of low stock big price
The Roosevelt has twice the material of the tactile along with twice the milling, and in my opinion twice the knife. If you want a really nice knife and this is the perfect fit along with $1000 not being much money to you I would say get it because the Roosevelt is a definite top-notch pocket carry. I at first did not want to like the knife, considering all the hype, but bought one just to see what all the hype was about. I’ve yet to find a knife with better reverse finger flick action along with being more comfortable in pocket. To me it’s totally worth $800-$1000.
How can you, not you Jamie😅 Criticize a knife you haven't even laid hands on? Just because you can't afford it doesn't mean it's not a well made knife. Rant, over ✌️
No worries Aidy. I absulutely love the knife, but I see less maching fone to it than a Tactile Rockwall. Both are titanium and magnacut and the rockwall has even more detail work because of the nested liners so I believe the Rosie is way over priced. WIth that being said it is only overpriced because people keep buying them. Eventually everyone entering the lottery will get one and the price will be cut by 50%. If for 1 month strait no one would enter the lottery guess what would happen? OZ Machine Co wouldn't go out of busness, but they sure as hell would lower their prices.
Not worth it imo, I could buy multiple knives with the same steel and get much more use out of them. People willing to pay whatever amount just because they are limited is the dumbest crap ive ever seen lol Ignorant people out there
It is a solid looking knife with quality materials. These types of things are worth whatever someone is willing to pay unfortunately and that ruins it for the rest of us. I’d go maybe as high as 450 for the Rosie but that is about it.
@@norrisfong6445 oh I know it’s worth more I just mean personally for a knife like that 450 is as high as I’d go. The knife world has so many knives with high price tags and not every single one rubs everyone the same way. I like the Rosie but I don’t like it 700 worth. I can’t fault people who love it that much because I’m sure I love a lot of stuff that others wouldn’t pay 50 bucks for and that’s the name of the game! It is possible I’d change my mind if I ever got to hold one because I know I have changed my perception several times that way.
@@danpennella I've been fortunate to be able to afford and get some knives I wanted to try. My ceiling has changed a lot since I first started collecting knives.
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Oz machine company doesn't have a giant production company like benchmade or spyderco he's one guy with a few employees to assemble, sharpening, ano. The fact he's made 2k knives is amazing
Yes, this exactly. I literally just opened my first Rosie for the first time about 2 minutes ago, & I'm super impressed. And no, I didn't pay an exorbitant amount for it, because I found someone really cool who sold me this one, which has custom work done on the clip & spacer, for a very reasonable price. But people are gonna charge & pay what they're gonna pay.
The reason for the low production is due to the fact that Daniel Osborne makes every single Roosevelt to each customer’s specifications in his own shop using his own machines in Indiana. He essentially doing the same thing that the Grimsmo bros., Holt Bladeworks, etc. are doing, and his prices are right in line with other high end, low production, semi-custom, CNC made American knife company’s.
I think this would be a better and more refined design of the lock bar cut out was on the inside of the scale. It certainly seems easier in my mind to do the cutout on the outside. You know who does the best lock bar cutout in my opinion Chris Reeve, he did invent the Frame lock, the Reeve Integral lock.
I wonder if the hype is real for Koenig knives as well. I hadn't hardly heard of these brands except to occasionally check sale listings and have my eyes bulge out in shock at the prices.
I love the design, but it puts you up in the price range of the brown fsd, Koenig arius, holts, shamwaris and others that are actually giving you even better ergos and tolerances. I’ve got an arius currently that I paid $800 for with a second milled ti scale and it’s a much more comfortable knife with insane action and detent. IMO, the arius is the best production knife out. They just fit in hand immaculately. Right now, I’m hunting a mini fsd-i and a gen 2 or 3 lamia.
The g10 drift is so so good just the pivot screw is strippy. Vanax with their treatment is hard to beat
I handled one of these last year at the River's Edge Cutlery meetup. I don't get it either. It felt like a very soulless design. It didn't have any appeal to me at all. I don't get it. While I was checking it out, the owner was checking out my Norseman. Which I totally feel justifies the price. It's weird how the Norseman feels worth it to me, and this doesn't.
I’m thinking of picking up another AD20.5 and getting some Rockscales Straight Titanium scales for it. If I do I think I will send them to Way of Knife and have them do an Ano job. Their website shows they can put the pattern of the Rosie on my scales so I’m trying to decide if I want that or just by the Rockscales with the “Critter” milling.
The Rock Scale scales are very nice.
Great video Jamie! I think I still want one though.
If production increased or it OEM by Reate, it would be less.
I totally agree with your take on this. 💯
A lot of people like me don't want Chinese made Reate knives. So it goes both ways. China is where they make the counterfeit American knives.
Just my 2 cents, but Tactical is has a massive warehouse in Texas with dozens of employees and machines. Their scale is easily 10x + what OZ Machine has at this moment in time.
I have several high end knives that I feel justify the price with simple designs. I also have several TwoSuns and a Titanium Kubey Tityus that I feel are more appealing and just as well made.
It comes down to the fact he hasn’t got the same amount of production capacity as some people might think not intentionally being made slowly just to keep the price high. Plus it’s what he thinks his workmanship is actually worth, not what the mass majority of knife people think who are so used to picking up mass production thus cheaper costing knives. I do agree it isn’t what you would call a budget knife or a mid range knife but that all depends on what you class as a midrange price! For me personally it’s £300-700 anything about is high end. So by that math a budget knife is anything that is from £5-£300 which is bonkers when I see it in writing but that’s only because I have been collecting so long budget used to be from £5-£80 and midrange was £80-£250 and my highest was £250-£600 maximum and no more end of story. But as we all know that just falls by the way side the longer you get sucked into the knife world.
100% agree with you, nothing innovative, for my eyes looks ugly and cant justify the price not even for if it had an exotic steel or something. I appreciate that everything is done in house but still hate this type of low stock big price
Rosie is 100% USA made!
I think this is a beautiful knife I wouldn’t pay 1000$ for it but would certainly pay 500$
The Roosevelt has twice the material of the tactile along with twice the milling, and in my opinion twice the knife. If you want a really nice knife and this is the perfect fit along with $1000 not being much money to you I would say get it because the Roosevelt is a definite top-notch pocket carry. I at first did not want to like the knife, considering all the hype, but bought one just to see what all the hype was about. I’ve yet to find a knife with better reverse finger flick action along with being more comfortable in pocket. To me it’s totally worth $800-$1000.
It may have twice the material, but it has half the milling.
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Whole lotta Rosie! I'd rather get an FSD or arius. Too small for me
I don't exactly get what the Hype is about this knife but the knife and the price doesn't interest me.
How can you, not you Jamie😅 Criticize a knife you haven't even laid hands on? Just because you can't afford it doesn't mean it's not a well made knife. Rant, over ✌️
No worries Aidy. I absulutely love the knife, but I see less maching fone to it than a Tactile Rockwall. Both are titanium and magnacut and the rockwall has even more detail work because of the nested liners so I believe the Rosie is way over priced. WIth that being said it is only overpriced because people keep buying them. Eventually everyone entering the lottery will get one and the price will be cut by 50%. If for 1 month strait no one would enter the lottery guess what would happen? OZ Machine Co wouldn't go out of busness, but they sure as hell would lower their prices.
Not worth it imo, I could buy multiple knives with the same steel and get much more use out of them. People willing to pay whatever amount just because they are limited is the dumbest crap ive ever seen lol
Ignorant people out there
It is a solid looking knife with quality materials. These types of things are worth whatever someone is willing to pay unfortunately and that ruins it for the rest of us. I’d go maybe as high as 450 for the Rosie but that is about it.
I'm very happy w mine. Great ergos and mine is magnacut which I like.
$450? If you win a lottery at the site the price is usually $700 to $900.
@@norrisfong6445 oh I know it’s worth more I just mean personally for a knife like that 450 is as high as I’d go. The knife world has so many knives with high price tags and not every single one rubs everyone the same way. I like the Rosie but I don’t like it 700 worth. I can’t fault people who love it that much because I’m sure I love a lot of stuff that others wouldn’t pay 50 bucks for and that’s the name of the game! It is possible I’d change my mind if I ever got to hold one because I know I have changed my perception several times that way.
@@danpennella I've been fortunate to be able to afford and get some knives I wanted to try. My ceiling has changed a lot since I first started collecting knives.
Agreed 👍