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You assume the absolute plebian knows anything about Greek mythology, or understands it, or has logic enough to even think any of the stupid questions he made about the scene matters. They're gods, why would they constantly do whatever the random fuck they want if they can just have parties forever? And since they are having a party, they CLEARLY CAN get drunk, or the PG equivalent of drunk. Jeremy is a fucking mess. Also, using plebian as a joke, because, greek, plebian ya get it. Feels stupid putting this disclaimer here but, well, yeah, people might take that insult too seriously
It's a fair question. It's why the pantheon of Greek gods could be better understood as more akin to superheroes, not actual gods as a philosopher of religion might understand God/a god.
Ok but like? The plan to kidnap her was made when hades went to zeus and told him of his affections. Zeus literally helped in the kidnapping. So like that wasnt even totally on him
Additional sin for the “strobe lights” you thankfully skipped. Jeremy’s basic point is that he’s complaining about the strobe lights which would make people sensitive to Strobe lights uncomfortable out while LOOPING that scene for a long-ass time making people who ARE sensitive to Strobe lights EVEN MORE UNCOMFORTABLE! You can’t have your cake and eat it too!
"Herc takes being a god surprisingly well" Umm did you miss his total freak out when the Zeus statue came to life and then when he almost fainted when he found out he's a god?
CinemaSins believes that no one watching their videos has, in fact, not seen the movie they're sinning, and therefore they can't possibly know about how false 99 percent of their sins actually are.
@@selkie8587 Also, I don't think they're "in the underworld with Hades" since he clearly tells Pain and Panic to tell him when the Fates arrive. I got the impression they were visiting at his invitation (to join his evil plan, naturally)
@@selkie8587 they're obviously not combined with the Furies... They have no trait of them aside the ugliness 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️ and that's because it's cartoony, like the Gods, for example, Phobos and Deimos being portrait as demons...
@@selkie8587 If the fates were combined with anyone it was the three Greys. They were a set of sisters who knew a lot and shared one tooth and one eye between them, constantly fighting over which one got them. Heroes were often sent to them to get information that the gods weren't willing to give out.
That's what I said! He literally sent out gods to find him, with the muses narrating that he did. Not only that, but they were too late to bring him home. And his point of "why didn't they think of something to reduce the potion"... they didn't know what the heck happened. It's like if we saw something happen, the other characters OBVIOUSLY know what happened too!
Yeah that comment of his made me confused because legit his parents tried everything they could and had no luck (since they sent other gods/goddesses who were there at the time) so they did do something so that claim that Jeremey said about that was dumb.
The only argument you could make is why they didn't just go down to earth and take care of their literal baby there. Their immortality wouldn't be compromised and they could be with their child for the most part.
also, if i remember correctly, he had the hottest wife around, was basically scrooge mcduck when it comes to having money, and as you stated, was basically a saint among the greek gods. :)
just picked up on the irony of the3birdman. he makes his intros long (about 30 - 35 seconds) so as to play on cinemasins’ hatred for long intros and / or hatred of logos. the shade of it all
About the whole "Hercules wouldn't get bullied because of his strength" - Jeremy's clearly never heard of "short-man syndrome". It's actually pretty common for big kids to get tormented at school - Especially if they're not willing to fight... That just gives the bullies more and more confidence.
Another thing, when Jeremy said that his parents didn’t look for him, they literally showed proof that they watched over Hercules, and watched him grow up with his adopted parents. They were distraught, as stated by the muses and shown on the screen. They couldn’t do anything about it. There wasn’t a “cure” for mortality, since the “poison” given to Hercules has never been used before. They never had a reason for having a cure before.
This was actually my favorite Disney movie so I for once watched the CS video, they DID put their home address on his collar. The “symbol of the gods” is on the other side, meaning the collar is basically saying “this is Hercules, he is a God” and that’s really all that you should need to know, the problem here is that since Herc is a baby there haven’t been any exploits if his to spread to the mortal realm for them to know about him. Unlike Athena he assumedly doesn’t have a fantastical birth story where he popped out fully formed and was born the old fashioned way.
Honestly that would make people doubt him more. If someone just walks up to you and says "I'm a god" and you've never heard of them before, you're probably going to assume that they're crazy rather than assuming that they're a badass.
@OMG These chocodiles true, but people likely ran into crazy people calling themselves gods far more often than they would run into someone who was actually capable.
Fun fact: Blue fire is the hottest fire but it's the fire when Hades is calm but when he gets angry it turns into orange fire which is less hotter. Another Fun fact:You can have different colors of fire depending on what chemical you use. For example you can have, yellow green yellow green violet purple Carmine finally white fire. Which reminds me alot of the Dragon's fire vortex from Avatar:The last Airbender but this scene was about spirituality not science. On a side note Zuko does the fire vortex in the comics.
This is true, though it is also true that in order for fire to burn blue, it has to be exceptionally well controlled. Going from blue to orange flames shows moments where Hades loses control, therefore it still works.
I personally think they chose the color blue cuz blue represents calm. And when Hades is angry, it turns orange and red, angry/hot colors. But what you said also is interesting
To be fair what Hera made him do (I.E. killing his first wife whose name was Meg) probably messed up his sense of marriage to the point that he was afraid of long term marriages because he might kill his family again. Though he did eventually get to marry Hebe . . . his half-sister (Greek deities do incest like cray-cray) Hebe was not just the goddess of youth. She was also the goddess of forgiveness. One can assume that Hera eventually realized just how much she screwed up his mind. But hey, at least Hades is the chill ass cool uncle who lets his nephew borrow his dog for a while.
Adding on to that, he has a great relationship with Persephone and translations of Cerberus (Hades’ 3 headed dog) translates to spotted, so he called his hell hound Spot
He DID say a couple weeks ago that he'll be rolling these EWWCS videos out in "rapid succession", after all. th-cam.com/users/postUgyb2f__xqkheRcQNVF4AaABCQ I'm still with ya on that!
Also, The story needs the whole love story thing to work. If Herc didn't love Meg, the he wouldn't have given up his powers to Hades the way he did and the whole 3rd act couldn't have happened. And if you think that he would have done it for her just as a friend, watch he's reaction. Even for someone he loves, he hesitates for a second.
You gotta love that cinemasins bothered by Meg seeing Oedipus without knowing that within it's lore it would be even more disturbing since she's related to them, she is Creon's daughter meaning she watcher her cousin do it with her aunt.
6:55 Well, the fact that Hercules is ostracized for being different is what makes it relatable. Sure, most of the kids watching aren't demigods with super strength, but I'm sure they can relate to characters who are outcasts for being "weird. It's similar to how Shrek being ostracized for being an Ogre. Or how Gumball and Darwin singing a goofy song about how we shouldn't be ashamed of our weirdness and understand that we're all a little weird.
"Uh yeah, welcome to mythology," I would also like to add, "Welcome to cartoons." This is an animated film that plays with cartoon rules and logic, not only with the comical launching of the centaur to the sky, but also that punching him in the face somehow causes him to LOSE his horseshoes which all happen to fall at the exact same spot on his head. On top of that, why does a centaur even HAVE horseshoes? Modern nailed horseshoes like that didn't exist until 900 AD. (admittedly the archeological evidence is a little spotty). At this point, horses would be fitted with "hipposandals", basically solid coverings for the hoofs attached with straps.
"How long was this sequence?" Assuming he writes his videos after he watches the movie, a couple scenes later we see hades freak out because Herc is alive and this is the year of his big plan. The fates literally say how old he will be when they tell hades the future. What's not clicking
Even when she's a better character then two thirds of the Disney Princess pantheon. Like Come on, if fuckin Aurora (sleeping beauty) can be a Disney Princess despite not being in her movie for 90% of the runtime, so can Meg.
@@petrpodskalsky1785 that’s what id love to believe but meg isnt a princess by any means If anything people want that one girl from Atlantis to be a disney princess
You do realize what makes a Disney princess comes down to how much money they can make with them basically? Herc didn’t make enough money to warrant millions of Meg dolls. Meg isn’t a Disney princess because people didn’t throw enough money at this movie.
Technically, she's just as much a princess as Cinderella is. Because she marries Hercules, son of the KING of the GODS. The Disney Princess brand is more about which character makes money. And they make more money off the classic princesses than they did of Hercules.
I’d like to add to the first scene. I am a historian, and as such, we have a saying: “The past is a different country.” This means that you cannot look into the past with your modern sensibilities and notions because they wont fit in to ever historical period and this you will misinterpret information. Saying Ancient Greece is a “faraway land” is totally understandable using this line of thinking. It is a vastly different land from any place on Earth today, including Modern Greece. Thank you.
This will ALWAYS be my favorite Disney movie. I relate with Hercules a lot. (Other than being a demigod of course.) I know it's not many like most people who comment on their liked comments but thanks for all the likes!
10:20 Jeremy must have not been paying attention during fight club. Not only does the narrator never ask for Tyler to be his "mentor" but technically Tyler Durden IS the one who initiates his "training" by asking him to hit him outside the bar.
Doubly so because it's somehow *the* Pegasus, even though he was born from Medusa's severed head and was instead ridden and partnered with Bellerophon who... tried to fly to Olympus with him and got kicked off when Pegasus got bit by a gadfly.
This movie annoys me because the Greeks called him Heracles. He became Hercules after the Romans took over so if he’s Hercules in this movie Zeus should be Jupiter, Poseidon should be Neptune, Hades should be Pluto etc.
Can anyone remind me the appeal of cinemasins? He just comes off as annoying and he constantly contradicts himself and lies about movies. He just gets on my nerves now
Disney cartoons today pride themselves on how much attention to detail about cultures…but Hercules literally completely throws out the Greek myths and rewrote the story and made their own myth.
To add to CS Counter 45, Zeus tells Hercules they tried to find him but by time they did he was mortal so they could only watch from afar. So Jeremy either completely missed it or pruned it out like he has before
8:43 the movie specifically states that they looked for Hercules, only to find out he’s mortal,and as the movie states,they probably can’t make that kind of exception even if they wanted to,cause if they could they would when he was a baby
For the discus scene It would've made more sense if he sinned the fact that someone with incredible strength didn't stop then discus in its tracks, and was instead somehow still brought flying through the air by the discus
Thank you so much for the strobe warning at the beginning. It’s small things like this that will make a community stick around. Like 2 seconds of a video cements the admiration that I have for your channel. You have amazing content, but your respect for your audience is top notch.
I'm just surprised that no one sinned the fact that Hercules' feet are twice as big as his head in some scenes or that Hera wasn't even Hercules' mother in Greek mythology
What makes me laugh is Jeremy complaining that Zeus didn't care that Hercules went missing and misses the scene where he sent the other gods to find him
15:02 - Not Puritans. Heck, the Puritans had no problem with public breastfeeding, because they saw it as the natural, God-given purpose of breasts. That's *American Evanglical* logic.
5:30 In latin culture, we give our godchild a necklace with an image on(saint, astrological sign,...) With usually the name and birth date on the back. So yeah
I think the “old and white” double standard is more flipping the concept on its head is an interesting idea that works… but on a thematic level it only adds to the religious shorthand we see where both the gospel and the prayer scene are Christian despite the movie being Ancient Greek.
You could also sin the movie for forgetting to mention that the whole of Hades is not Hell, but made up into three distinct spheres, Elysium for the good and righteous, Asphodel for the not-so-good-not-so-bad humans, and Tartarus for the sinners, evil-doers and people who broke hospitality laws and murdered their guests at their dinner table.
One other part i believed Jeremy didnt get sinned for. The part where Jeremy states why they didnt look for him or try to reverse it, but in the scene where the muses sing, they show Zues knows where he is but also knows Hercules couldnt come home because hes no longer a god...but then does proceed to imform Herc that becoming a true hero will restore him to being a god. Lol...like trying to tell baby Herc be a hero real quick and youll be a god again.
Yes. Gods can get drunk. Thor gets drunk all the time. Dyonisis is the god of getting drunk. Why would he ask “can gods get drunk?” while talking about a mythology that includes Dyonisis?
First of all, love the intro. It’s perfect! Second, favorite sins: 1) to be frank, this movie underpowers zeus and makes light of the other gods, gods like Hermès, who is captured by Pain and Panic. The god whose claim is speed, is captured by Tweedledee and Tweedledum 2) Rita from Edge of Tomorrow and Morpheus from the Matrix. Next question 3) Lies. Meg has been observing Hercules as he’s been performing his 12 tasks. She’s known the guy for at least a couple of months, And if I learned anything from Cardi B, that’s all these hoes need Sentence: Wonderboy!
Not my favorite movie from the 90s, but I always love the mixing of 'Superhero' and ' Star Athlete' they had going with this. Also loved Hades. One of my favorite animated villains of all time.
To be fair, this movie made the mistake of making greek and roman interchangible. One of the two imps in the disguise of a kid says "Call IX-I-I" or the "Who puts the Glad in Gladiator" line. Even though Ancient Greece never had gladiators. At least it's not as egregious as Hercules in New York where half the gods are named after their greek names and the rest as roman.
@@DrZuluGaming In fairness, since the myths were functionally identical in both cultures, it's a very easy mistake to make if you're only doing enough historical research to make an engaging movie.
@@EvripidouM Pretty sure it is Herakles because Hera demanded as payment he be dedicated to her temple... before she twisted the knife more. He also had fully mortal twin brother
16:10 Jeremy thinks Hades saw what happened in the forest between Herc and Meg even though Hades literally asked Meg in that very scene "What happened?"
2:26 Sorry, what pantheon is this, again? And who's that in the rear-center-left? What about that guy all the way in the front, whose head is the only part of him visible at this point? 8:45 Missed remark: Yes, they did. In "The Gospel Truth III", we see that Zeus and Hera found him pretty quickly. "But Zeus and Hera wept because their son could never come home." That was literally in the song lyrics, and Zeus clarifies here that he could not live on Olympus because he was mortal. (I guess it isn't good for their health to be on Olympus too long, considering they had some guests up there) 17:14 Exactly. Jeremy does not understand time-passage montages. He acted as if Tarzan had aged in an instant, he completely missed the obvious implication that Hercules was training for a few years rather than going from clumsy to buff and competent with the snap of a finger, and didn't consider that it takes time for Hercules to find and fight several monsters and become a nouveau riche brand name, and for plays to be made about him.
The Greek Pantheon my guy. There were a ton of other gods in addition to the 12 Olympians, Hades and Hestia. I'm not exactly sure which god it is you mean, the gods took whatever form they wanted to be in. So there's no telling which one it was exactly.
2:34 - 2:56 You could also make the argument of that you don't want to steam up Hades because he literally controls where you go in the afterlife. While any god could kill you if you pissed them off enough, Hades is the only one that can direct you to Elysium (which is the Greek mythology equivalent of heaven and heroes and legends reside there), Asphodel Meadows (where most souls go to and neutral) or Tartarus (which is practically like hell and is where people who are evil and pissed off the gods go). If you piss off Hades enough, he might put you in Tartarus and your afterlife will be torturous.
Every time Jeremy talks for a long time about nothing in particular or something completely unrelated to the movie, I just wait for Birdman to abruptly skip it.
Ok I'll be honest. This isn't one of my favorite Disney movies from the 90s, but I bet CinemaSins is gonna make this movie look worse because of course.
I want to add something 8:46 Jeremy asks if they even looked for Hercules when earlier in the movie the fates directly say that they looked for him but couldn't take him back because he was mortal, unless i'm remembering it wrong
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The one where you mispronounced Uranus 😆
In all seriousness, this video as great.
2:24 "Can [gods] even get drunk anyway?" Dionysus would like a word with you, Jeremy.
Please I doubt he even knows about dionysus lmao
Oh for all Gods.... I want to kill that guy so seriously...
@@zoazede2098 I'm glad Asclepeus is dead
@@Raccon_Detective. the God of wine, parties, drugs (I'm not kidding), the wilderness, and insanity
@@prizmarvalschi1319 and wooden dildos
Did Jeremy seriously ask if gods could even get drunk? When there's a god of wine and madness?
You assume the absolute plebian knows anything about Greek mythology, or understands it, or has logic enough to even think any of the stupid questions he made about the scene matters. They're gods, why would they constantly do whatever the random fuck they want if they can just have parties forever? And since they are having a party, they CLEARLY CAN get drunk, or the PG equivalent of drunk. Jeremy is a fucking mess.
Also, using plebian as a joke, because, greek, plebian ya get it. Feels stupid putting this disclaimer here but, well, yeah, people might take that insult too seriously
better question can Greek gods be sober?
and you know Zeus rescued his sibilings from their father by getting all the other titans drunk as well as getting their father to throw up
It's a fair question. It's why the pantheon of Greek gods could be better understood as more akin to superheroes, not actual gods as a philosopher of religion might understand God/a god.
@@Gopherzooka I know right Greek gods are constantly getting drunk in the myths
The only sin I have for this movie is that Hades is this evil guy while in Greek mythology he’s actually the chillest god there.
@@BM-jy2gh His wife was also his *niece* (not that incest was unusual in Greek mythology).
And then there's Zeus who cheats on his wife every other day
@Abed El Rahman even then kidnapping women to be your bride was your every day shenanigans in those times so by Greek standards he’s got it going
Ok but like? The plan to kidnap her was made when hades went to zeus and told him of his affections. Zeus literally helped in the kidnapping. So like that wasnt even totally on him
@@BM-jy2gh well in some interpretations Persephone was way into him.
Additional sin for the “strobe lights” you thankfully skipped. Jeremy’s basic point is that he’s complaining about the strobe lights which would make people sensitive to Strobe lights uncomfortable out while LOOPING that scene for a long-ass time making people who ARE sensitive to Strobe lights EVEN MORE UNCOMFORTABLE! You can’t have your cake and eat it too!
"Herc takes being a god surprisingly well" Umm did you miss his total freak out when the Zeus statue came to life and then when he almost fainted when he found out he's a god?
CinemaSins believes that no one watching their videos has, in fact, not seen the movie they're sinning, and therefore they can't possibly know about how false 99 percent of their sins actually are.
"Here the three witches kill someone"
Actually, no. They didn't kill anyone, her time was already up.
Exactly. Jeremy doesn't know anything about Greek mythology.
*ding*
@@selkie8587 I think like the Fates, the Furies worked for all gods. Hera sent them after stepson number 3561
@@selkie8587 Also, I don't think they're "in the underworld with Hades" since he clearly tells Pain and Panic to tell him when the Fates arrive. I got the impression they were visiting at his invitation (to join his evil plan, naturally)
@@selkie8587 they're obviously not combined with the Furies... They have no trait of them aside the ugliness 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️ and that's because it's cartoony, like the Gods, for example, Phobos and Deimos being portrait as demons...
@@selkie8587 If the fates were combined with anyone it was the three Greys. They were a set of sisters who knew a lot and shared one tooth and one eye between them, constantly fighting over which one got them. Heroes were often sent to them to get information that the gods weren't willing to give out.
I’m amused that Jeremy says Herc’s parents did nothing when they realized he was missing. You literally see them send out the gods to find their boy.
That's what I said! He literally sent out gods to find him, with the muses narrating that he did. Not only that, but they were too late to bring him home. And his point of "why didn't they think of something to reduce the potion"... they didn't know what the heck happened. It's like if we saw something happen, the other characters OBVIOUSLY know what happened too!
I believe the Muses even say something along the lines of "by the time they found him, it was too late."
Yeah that comment of his made me confused because legit his parents tried everything they could and had no luck (since they sent other gods/goddesses who were there at the time) so they did do something so that claim that Jeremey said about that was dumb.
Also, he says Zeus "pretty fucking fast"
Despite the fact they lost Herc as a baby and met him again as a teen. That's plenty of time to move on
The only argument you could make is why they didn't just go down to earth and take care of their literal baby there. Their immortality wouldn't be compromised and they could be with their child for the most part.
This movie is sooo unfairly underrated. One of the best of the 90's era Disney films if you ask me.
I agree
Yeah,I love this movie (although as a lover of greek mythology, the things that go against the mythology are a bit annoying)
must not be in Japan if it's in almost every Kingdom Hearts game.
I've always been confused about the hate for it, I love the movie in all honesty and enjoy watching it from time to time.
Well it's getting a live action remake. But don't worry, the Russos are in charged 👍
Underappreciated Sin of this great movie; Hades is portrayed as a villain. He was revered and feared to an extent but was one of the nicer gods
also, if i remember correctly, he had the hottest wife around, was basically scrooge mcduck when it comes to having money, and as you stated, was basically a saint among the greek gods. :)
Yep. From memory Hades spends half the myths he's in basically minding his own business, but people keep coming down to bother him.
@@bluestar2059 hades just chills in the basement while his family constantly fights upstairs.
Hades was the cool Goth brother. Zeus was the fuck-up brother (literally and figuratively).
@@PhoenixRising87 LOL
Honey, you mean Everything wrong with Hunkules!
the Muses are the best lmao
Should a sin be added for the fact that the Muses are Herc's half-sisters and that Muse in particular is always infatuated over his body?
Woo-hoo, I'd like to make some SWEET music wi-
Well insest was in then
@@hedgehoundable it’s Greek mythology, everyone is related
just picked up on the irony of the3birdman. he makes his intros long (about 30 - 35 seconds) so as to play on cinemasins’ hatred for long intros and / or hatred of logos. the shade of it all
I never actually caught on to that😲
I thought they were just fun intros; showcasing bird’s editing talent and setting the mood for the rest of the video.
About the whole "Hercules wouldn't get bullied because of his strength" - Jeremy's clearly never heard of "short-man syndrome".
It's actually pretty common for big kids to get tormented at school - Especially if they're not willing to fight... That just gives the bullies more and more confidence.
The real sin is Hera loving Hercules
yes your right
Nah the real sin is her being his mother to begin with
True, she was the one trying to kill him.
Pretty much viewing Greek Myth through a Christian lense
The real real sin is that Zeus didn't try to fuck Hercules
Another thing, when Jeremy said that his parents didn’t look for him, they literally showed proof that they watched over Hercules, and watched him grow up with his adopted parents. They were distraught, as stated by the muses and shown on the screen. They couldn’t do anything about it. There wasn’t a “cure” for mortality, since the “poison” given to Hercules has never been used before. They never had a reason for having a cure before.
This was actually my favorite Disney movie so I for once watched the CS video, they DID put their home address on his collar. The “symbol of the gods” is on the other side, meaning the collar is basically saying “this is Hercules, he is a God” and that’s really all that you should need to know, the problem here is that since Herc is a baby there haven’t been any exploits if his to spread to the mortal realm for them to know about him. Unlike Athena he assumedly doesn’t have a fantastical birth story where he popped out fully formed and was born the old fashioned way.
Honestly that would make people doubt him more. If someone just walks up to you and says "I'm a god" and you've never heard of them before, you're probably going to assume that they're crazy rather than assuming that they're a badass.
simple, there are no birth cert in early mythologies mate
@OMG These chocodiles true, but people likely ran into crazy people calling themselves gods far more often than they would run into someone who was actually capable.
Fun fact:
Blue fire is the hottest fire but it's the fire when Hades is calm but when he gets angry it turns into orange fire which is less hotter.
Another Fun fact:You can have different colors of fire depending on what chemical you use.
For example you can have,
yellow
green
yellow green
violet
purple
Carmine
finally white fire.
Which reminds me alot of the Dragon's fire vortex from Avatar:The last Airbender but this scene was about spirituality not science.
On a side note Zuko does the fire vortex in the comics.
This is true, though it is also true that in order for fire to burn blue, it has to be exceptionally well controlled. Going from blue to orange flames shows moments where Hades loses control, therefore it still works.
I personally think they chose the color blue cuz blue represents calm. And when Hades is angry, it turns orange and red, angry/hot colors. But what you said also is interesting
@@JRGomez81
That makes sense that's why blue fire is the center of a candle.Also check my comment again.
I don't have a seizure disorder but I highly appreciate the warning. I don't think I've seen many youtubers give that warning
I don't get seizures either. I like the warning too.
Granted, I partially shield my eyes to further prevent those f***ing seizures
If nothing else it's just nice to see the respectful courtesy
@@tycol322 I don't have seizures, but am disabled in other ways, so it's just nice to see people thinking of that
Fun fact regarding the final statement showing God of War: the person who voices Zeus in God of War 2 and 3 voiced Zeus in the Hercules cartoon.
Thank you for the fun fact I did not know that.
Pretty cool
And the guy voicing Hercules is Kevin Sorbo.
Finally, a Fun Fact that actually is quite fun!
That is *wonderfully* fitting.
At this point, I don't even watch CS anymore, I just wait for EWWCS 😂😂
Yep
Same here waiting for him to tear down some classics
They are satisfying 🐙
same mate, jeremy is so stupid
CW is the best
"Forced romcom" Heracles was married like six times, he was always quick to move on
Like father, like son
@@Devils_Lair_Comics At least Herculese love interests were all humans.
To be fair what Hera made him do (I.E. killing his first wife whose name was Meg) probably messed up his sense of marriage to the point that he was afraid of long term marriages because he might kill his family again.
Though he did eventually get to marry Hebe . . . his half-sister (Greek deities do incest like cray-cray)
Hebe was not just the goddess of youth. She was also the goddess of forgiveness. One can assume that Hera eventually realized just how much she screwed up his mind.
But hey, at least Hades is the chill ass cool uncle who lets his nephew borrow his dog for a while.
monogamy isnt a thing in greek mythology and culture asshole.
@@daviddomaguina9578 didnt need to be an asshoel about that
Sin #6 To add more to that, in Greek mythology, Hades isn't even a bad guy.
best of top 3 gods
He probably has the best moral character of all other greek gods...which isn't saying much, but still.
Yeah, literally the only god more chill than Hades is Hestia.
Yeah, Hera should've been the villain!
Adding on to that, he has a great relationship with Persephone and translations of Cerberus (Hades’ 3 headed dog) translates to spotted, so he called his hell hound Spot
Bless my soul, Bird is on a roll!
He DID say a couple weeks ago that he'll be rolling these EWWCS videos out in "rapid succession", after all. th-cam.com/users/postUgyb2f__xqkheRcQNVF4AaABCQ
I'm still with ya on that!
Here, have an upvote, you earned it.👍
Becoming public enemy No.1 on every overzealous Cinemasins fan opinion poll!
@@handwritingofunhingedgerbil621 It is physically impossible to fit that into the bar it goes with.
Also, The story needs the whole love story thing to work. If Herc didn't love Meg, the he wouldn't have given up his powers to Hades the way he did and the whole 3rd act couldn't have happened. And if you think that he would have done it for her just as a friend, watch he's reaction. Even for someone he loves, he hesitates for a second.
You gotta love that cinemasins bothered by Meg seeing Oedipus without knowing that within it's lore it would be even more disturbing since she's related to them, she is Creon's daughter meaning she watcher her cousin do it with her aunt.
"CiNeMaS sInS iS sAtRiE" - every Karen of Cinema sins but to quote an awesome show "Shut up, Shut UP SHUT UUUUPP!"
@@rsap80 it is in this case
@Mickey Mouse Oh I thought it was The Thick of It, but I guess that would be a lot more f-bombs in there
youre a karen
I guess the term Karen now just simply means “idiot”
"There are nipples in a Disney movie!" I guess Jeremy never seen Fantastia.
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Well, the fact that Hercules is ostracized for being different is what makes it relatable. Sure, most of the kids watching aren't demigods with super strength, but I'm sure they can relate to characters who are outcasts for being "weird.
It's similar to how Shrek being ostracized for being an Ogre. Or how Gumball and Darwin singing a goofy song about how we shouldn't be ashamed of our weirdness and understand that we're all a little weird.
I can't believe Jeremy missed that Phil was mocking Herc for being a son of Zeus after he mentions Perseus by name
"Uh yeah, welcome to mythology," I would also like to add, "Welcome to cartoons." This is an animated film that plays with cartoon rules and logic, not only with the comical launching of the centaur to the sky, but also that punching him in the face somehow causes him to LOSE his horseshoes which all happen to fall at the exact same spot on his head.
On top of that, why does a centaur even HAVE horseshoes? Modern nailed horseshoes like that didn't exist until 900 AD. (admittedly the archeological evidence is a little spotty). At this point, horses would be fitted with "hipposandals", basically solid coverings for the hoofs attached with straps.
Jeremy: can gods even get drunk
Dionysus in a corner slurring: I don’t *hic* know maaaaan-
The only sin of this movie is that Hades attempts to release the same Titans he helped Zeus and Posedion seal in actual greek mythology.
"How long was this sequence?" Assuming he writes his videos after he watches the movie, a couple scenes later we see hades freak out because Herc is alive and this is the year of his big plan. The fates literally say how old he will be when they tell hades the future. What's not clicking
This is one of the movies where a Disney Princess wasn’t truly recognized!
Even when she's a better character then two thirds of the Disney Princess pantheon. Like Come on, if fuckin Aurora (sleeping beauty) can be a Disney Princess despite not being in her movie for 90% of the runtime, so can Meg.
@@petrpodskalsky1785 that’s what id love to believe but meg isnt a princess by any means
If anything people want that one girl from Atlantis to be a disney princess
You do realize what makes a Disney princess comes down to how much money they can make with them basically? Herc didn’t make enough money to warrant millions of Meg dolls. Meg isn’t a Disney princess because people didn’t throw enough money at this movie.
Technically, she's just as much a princess as Cinderella is. Because she marries Hercules, son of the KING of the GODS. The Disney Princess brand is more about which character makes money. And they make more money off the classic princesses than they did of Hercules.
well the plot tells you that mate, not every disney movies are about princesses as youre whinning about
Heracles was cleaning his spectacles when a gang of barnacles riding bicycles wielding icicles in their tentacles stabbed Heracles in his testicles.
It took me 3 tries to finish this sentence in one go
Brilliant.
@@bowmanc.7439 just once for me
I’d like to add to the first scene. I am a historian, and as such, we have a saying: “The past is a different country.” This means that you cannot look into the past with your modern sensibilities and notions because they wont fit in to ever historical period and this you will misinterpret information. Saying Ancient Greece is a “faraway land” is totally understandable using this line of thinking. It is a vastly different land from any place on Earth today, including Modern Greece. Thank you.
I always read the thumbnails as "eww, cinema sins" which I think makes them better
This will ALWAYS be my favorite Disney movie. I relate with Hercules a lot. (Other than being a demigod of course.)
I know it's not many like most people who comment on their liked comments but thanks for all the likes!
I see you too are a man of culture
See, and the Demigod thing is the only thing I can relate to.
10:20 Jeremy must have not been paying attention during fight club. Not only does the narrator never ask for Tyler to be his "mentor" but technically Tyler Durden IS the one who initiates his "training" by asking him to hit him outside the bar.
9:44 the fact that Jeremy said magical flying horse, instead of just using the word pegasus, makes me angry, idk why
Doubly so because it's somehow *the* Pegasus, even though he was born from Medusa's severed head and was instead ridden and partnered with Bellerophon who... tried to fly to Olympus with him and got kicked off when Pegasus got bit by a gadfly.
Not my favorite Disney movie but honestly it doesn't get enough praise.
This movie annoys me because the Greeks called him Heracles. He became Hercules after the Romans took over so if he’s Hercules in this movie Zeus should be Jupiter, Poseidon should be Neptune, Hades should be Pluto etc.
@@johnbigwick3027 you must be fun at parties
@@johnbigwick3027 OK, I get that this movie has historical inaccuracy written all over it but it's at least entertaining so I give it a pass.
As far as favorites go for Disney movies
1. Lion King
2. Hercules
3. The Little Mermaid
If that Potion was a human women, Zeus would be mortal MANY times over
Or a goat, or a nymph, or a rock, or a...
@@RobertMischief right. Why limit the options...
Can anyone remind me the appeal of cinemasins? He just comes off as annoying and he constantly contradicts himself and lies about movies. He just gets on my nerves now
Disney cartoons today pride themselves on how much attention to detail about cultures…but Hercules literally completely throws out the Greek myths and rewrote the story and made their own myth.
To add to CS Counter 45, Zeus tells Hercules they tried to find him but by time they did he was mortal so they could only watch from afar. So Jeremy either completely missed it or pruned it out like he has before
8:43 the movie specifically states that they looked for Hercules, only to find out he’s mortal,and as the movie states,they probably can’t make that kind of exception even if they wanted to,cause if they could they would when he was a baby
Happy Thanksgiving, Birdman. Hope you're able to spend it with family.
For the discus scene It would've made more sense if he sinned the fact that someone with incredible strength didn't stop then discus in its tracks, and was instead somehow still brought flying through the air by the discus
2:24
"Hell, can gods even get drunk anyways?"
...Have...have you heard of Dionysus? Greek God of Wine...
Thank you so much for the strobe warning at the beginning. It’s small things like this that will make a community stick around. Like 2 seconds of a video cements the admiration that I have for your channel. You have amazing content, but your respect for your audience is top notch.
You forgot that one sin near the end where Jeremy calls Aphrodite a nymph. It was all over in the comment section of the video!
I'm just surprised that no one sinned the fact that Hercules' feet are twice as big as his head in some scenes or that Hera wasn't even Hercules' mother in Greek mythology
Every time Jeremy laughs, a cute little puppy dies somewhere...
As a Southerner, I gotta say. . .you're absolutely right about AFC South. *nods sagely*
Honestly the majority of your sins could just be “Jeremy-“ and I’d still enjoy the videos.
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What makes me laugh is Jeremy complaining that Zeus didn't care that Hercules went missing and misses the scene where he sent the other gods to find him
I'd definitely have to give a sin to CinemaSins for calling Hephaestus an "underling" when he passes Zeus his thunderbolts
15:02 - Not Puritans. Heck, the Puritans had no problem with public breastfeeding, because they saw it as the natural, God-given purpose of breasts. That's *American Evanglical* logic.
5:30
In latin culture, we give our godchild a necklace with an image on(saint, astrological sign,...) With usually the name and birth date on the back. So yeah
I think the “old and white” double standard is more flipping the concept on its head is an interesting idea that works… but on a thematic level it only adds to the religious shorthand we see where both the gospel and the prayer scene are Christian despite the movie being Ancient Greek.
I’ll say it, on the whole this movie has the best songs of the renaissance films.
Mulan and Hercules had the best soundtrack in the Disney Renaissance era in my opinion.
Jeremy has a problem with ancient statues being anatomically correct. He must've ruined plenty of field trips to museums.
5:12 He's sinning the movie so no, he's not paying attention to it. =(
Aye I knew that this was coming from a mile away...👀
You could also sin the movie for forgetting to mention that the whole of Hades is not Hell, but made up into three distinct spheres, Elysium for the good and righteous, Asphodel for the not-so-good-not-so-bad humans, and Tartarus for the sinners, evil-doers and people who broke hospitality laws and murdered their guests at their dinner table.
Real sin of this movie: When Herc calls Megara "More beautiful than Aphrodite," it doesn't start a literal war.
One other part i believed Jeremy didnt get sinned for. The part where Jeremy states why they didnt look for him or try to reverse it, but in the scene where the muses sing, they show Zues knows where he is but also knows Hercules couldnt come home because hes no longer a god...but then does proceed to imform Herc that becoming a true hero will restore him to being a god. Lol...like trying to tell baby Herc be a hero real quick and youll be a god again.
4:38 *Nobody’s gonna mention how he just called Uranus fat 😂*
Yes.
Gods can get drunk.
Thor gets drunk all the time.
Dyonisis is the god of getting drunk.
Why would he ask “can gods get drunk?” while talking about a mythology that includes Dyonisis?
First of all, love the intro. It’s perfect! Second, favorite sins: 1) to be frank, this movie underpowers zeus and makes light of the other gods, gods like Hermès, who is captured by Pain and Panic. The god whose claim is speed, is captured by Tweedledee and Tweedledum 2) Rita from Edge of Tomorrow and Morpheus from the Matrix. Next question 3) Lies. Meg has been observing Hercules as he’s been performing his 12 tasks. She’s known the guy for at least a couple of months, And if I learned anything from Cardi B, that’s all these hoes need
Sentence: Wonderboy!
Ok I checked the stills from this movie. Hercules deffenetly had his nipple showing earlier so why is it a problem when that statue does?
Because of the negative thinking that people put on female nipples.
Not my favorite movie from the 90s, but I always love the mixing of 'Superhero' and ' Star Athlete' they had going with this.
Also loved Hades. One of my favorite animated villains of all time.
9:57 Just like that time when he broke down laughing after Obi-Wan said "Only Stormtroopers are so precise."
On a quick side note I think the Roman name is easier to pronounce. His Greek name is Heracles.
To be fair, this movie made the mistake of making greek and roman interchangible. One of the two imps in the disguise of a kid says "Call IX-I-I" or the "Who puts the Glad in Gladiator" line.
Even though Ancient Greece never had gladiators.
At least it's not as egregious as Hercules in New York where half the gods are named after their greek names and the rest as roman.
@@DrZuluGaming In fairness, since the myths were functionally identical in both cultures, it's a very easy mistake to make if you're only doing enough historical research to make an engaging movie.
Erakles. Remove the H from the start
@@EvripidouM Pretty sure it is Herakles because Hera demanded as payment he be dedicated to her temple... before she twisted the knife more. He also had fully mortal twin brother
@@Ladywizard Nah, his mom named him in hopes it would make Hera *less* upset... as a note, it did not.
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I like to think Jeremy accidentally put an audio he sent to a friend in the video, and didn't bother talking it out
While we are all sharing fun facts:
"I am retired" is actually two words in Greek.
Whether intentional or not, it's still neat.
"he's not american, so it doesn't stick around"- i'm dying
Day 7 of telling Th3Birdman that he is very underrated and makes amazing content!
@8:43 The Muses LITERALLY sung an entire song about how Zeus and the rest of the gods DID in fact search for him and they found him too late.
17:33 * Birdman's reaction whenever someone says "Cinemasins is satire."
One of my favorite movies as a kid. Also, this sin video has taught me more about greek mythology than my history teacher.
Dude, your response on sin 96 at 14:40 made me choke on my ham&cheese sandwich. Good job 👍
🤣🤣🤣
I have to admit Birdman, I used to watch CS quite religiously. But now I just wait for yours.
11:08
"Bold of you to assume CINEMASINS has writers
I am not ashamed to admit that this is probably the movie I’ve seen the most in my life.
16:10 Jeremy thinks Hades saw what happened in the forest between Herc and Meg even though Hades literally asked Meg in that very scene "What happened?"
Fun fact: one of the people who worked on this film is Gerald Scarfe, who also had worked with the band Pink Floyd.
2:26 Sorry, what pantheon is this, again? And who's that in the rear-center-left? What about that guy all the way in the front, whose head is the only part of him visible at this point?
8:45 Missed remark: Yes, they did. In "The Gospel Truth III", we see that Zeus and Hera found him pretty quickly. "But Zeus and Hera wept because their son could never come home." That was literally in the song lyrics, and Zeus clarifies here that he could not live on Olympus because he was mortal. (I guess it isn't good for their health to be on Olympus too long, considering they had some guests up there)
17:14 Exactly. Jeremy does not understand time-passage montages. He acted as if Tarzan had aged in an instant, he completely missed the obvious implication that Hercules was training for a few years rather than going from clumsy to buff and competent with the snap of a finger, and didn't consider that it takes time for Hercules to find and fight several monsters and become a nouveau riche brand name, and for plays to be made about him.
The Greek Pantheon my guy.
There were a ton of other gods in addition to the 12 Olympians, Hades and Hestia.
I'm not exactly sure which god it is you mean, the gods took whatever form they wanted to be in. So there's no telling which one it was exactly.
2:34 - 2:56 You could also make the argument of that you don't want to steam up Hades because he literally controls where you go in the afterlife. While any god could kill you if you pissed them off enough, Hades is the only one that can direct you to Elysium (which is the Greek mythology equivalent of heaven and heroes and legends reside there), Asphodel Meadows (where most souls go to and neutral) or Tartarus (which is practically like hell and is where people who are evil and pissed off the gods go). If you piss off Hades enough, he might put you in Tartarus and your afterlife will be torturous.
Every time Jeremy talks for a long time about nothing in particular or something completely unrelated to the movie, I just wait for Birdman to abruptly skip it.
“Titi baring overlords” best leadership concept I’ve ever heard of and now where do I sign up for service
I'm glad to see your reviews of CinemaSins videos up and running :)) Keep up the good work
I watched this film as a kid.
James Woods absolutely killed it as Hades in this film. Iconic & funny!
Ok I'll be honest. This isn't one of my favorite Disney movies from the 90s, but I bet CinemaSins is gonna make this movie look worse because of course.
Thanks you for making this video. This was one of my sister’s favorite movies before she passed away so thank for doing that Th3Birdman!
Honey, you mean HUNKules!
"take some of your own medicine, Dr Kevorkian" omg that was a sick burn
1:11 awe man I can’t help but cringe when CS go all preachy
it’s so much projection you could put it on a wall and watch movies on it
Yeah that is true
I want to add something 8:46 Jeremy asks if they even looked for Hercules when earlier in the movie the fates directly say that they looked for him but couldn't take him back because he was mortal, unless i'm remembering it wrong
5:38 the real sin is the use of the Latin alphabet millenia before it was that developed. Yes, I'm that much of a nitpicker.