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BTW, she didn't "give up her agency" for her relationship. She just *also* pursued her relationship. She said the dream's not *complete* without the guy, not "forget the dream, I want the guy." In the end, she became the only Disney princess I know of who is *also* a business owner and her own boss, soooo... Not needing a man doesn't mean you can't *have* a man.
The argument that the relationship came out of nowhere and that they shouldn't have gotten together honestly just makes me think people didn't pay attention. 1st of all, at least they actually spent time together and didn't fall in love immediately like some other movies (yes I like those movies too but the relationship wouldn't be as realistic as the one in this one) Naveen was a play boy who knew how to have fun and win over women but he never actually cared for someone until Tiana, you could tell because when he was going to propose to her he felt nervous, something he didn't show when he was with any of the other women in the movie. They both have strengths that play to the other ones weaknesses. Tiana spins all day working and never has time for herself. Meanwhile Naveen is always partying and never works. Together they make a good team and balance each other out which is really what you need for a good business anyway.
@@nala6846 I don't remember either of them saying it happened 100% of the time, just that it was 100% realistic, meaning that it doesn't require any exaggeration or bending of reality in order for it to be realistic. I would agree that if he said it was "100% of the time", that would be weird and factually inaccurate. "100% realistic" means something different
Excuse me WHAT!? Charlotte is an absolute cinnamon Sure spoiled for being rich but she's a genuine good person, she's a great friend to Tiana and always puts her in front of her own needs if needed, which is SUCH a besutoful breath of fresh aie from the usual "Hurr durr rich friend greedy and bad" i've seen a lot
To be fair she didn’t fall for the prince when he was ACTING like a playboy she started to like him when he started to act more genuine and she starts to fall for him after he takes an interest in her interests and he minces her stuff as a gift and Charlotte is a great character
It's a lot like how people complain about Aladdin and Jasmine, and how "Oh, he's just lying to her the entire time, it's not ok!" when Jasmine only warms up to Prince Ali when he's acting like the real genuine him, and even calls him out of his bullshit.
@@munromister777 People really complained about that even though there were several instances where she wasn't into his whole Prince Ali act? Those people must be dense
Yes, I like how Charlette was upper class, but was still best friends with Tiana and didn't treat her as if she was lower than her. I also don't think Jere.y knows how women work. I don't get why he expects strong women not to fall in love or want to fall in love. That's stupid. If anything this film should have showed him that you can be strong and be in love, but he was so set on Tiana being single. Also why the fuck did he think it was called The Princess and The Frog if she didn't date the prince?
If anything, Dr. Facilier whispering “you’re almost there” to Tiana when he wasn’t even introduced as a character yet when she sang that song makes him even creepier. It’s demonstrating that he has knowledge and power far greater than her and maybe even implying that he knows her as well as she knows herself, even though they’re strangers. All from that one phrase. Also there’s nothing wrong for a woman to date a wealthy, elite, or promiscuous man, not to mention Tiana fell for the more genuine Naveen and showed no interest in him at all until he started to open up. The stereotype of black women always needing to be strong is actually known to be very harmful. Women aren’t caricatures or one-dimensional, they’re people, and people are complex. Turns out you can embrace femininity and want to get married while also being ambitious and strong, who knew????
It’s also established Tiana has a lot of work ethic and pride. I have no doubt Lottie has offered to give Tiana straight up the money for the restaurant, but Tiana refused. At the end of the movie, when she’s married a prince, Tiana still buys the building with the same bills she intended to buy it with at the start of the movie. She’s determined to show she’s worked for the restaurant.
@@yeemawheaver1387 Right, having a man does not make someone weaker. In fact, it's still Tiana's money that buys the restaurant with no additional help from Naveen. Marriage didn't get her the restaurant, just someone to spend the next section of her life with.
Blueberry Car Wreck They make each other better people. Tiana helps instil a sense of responsibility in Naveen while he helps her stop to smell the roses and enjoy life.
So true, even in my real life had people who were well off always offer to pay for something for me, when I rather work hard and not take advantage of them or their money. Tiana's strong work ethic is something I can really resonate with because it is a nice payoff in the end and knowing she had Lottie there to support her, even if she could just give her the money for the restaurant, it just shows how strong their friendship is too.
I wouldn't say wrong, I'd just say that there's a difference in opinion. But you are right (I do share your opinion) about the fact that they are true friends, and that their friendship is magnificent.
I like that Lottie even with being a spoiled rich girl is genuinely a good person. She was even willing to give up her dream so that Tiana could have hers come true
... Am I wrong if I say that Tianas character arc was completely perfect? Don't get me wrong the message of "Hard work pays off" is certainly the one that is the most prominent. Tiana worked hard to achieve her goal of the restaurant she and her father dreamed of. But from the very beginning it was never about the restaurant for her father. He loved food because it brought people together. He valued companionship, friendship and (romantic) love. The restaurant was just a means to an end. So when Tiana gave up on the restaurant it was not because of her submitting to "the woman's role" but her finally understanding what her father meant when he said "Don't lose sight of what is really important" which would be relationships to other people (that she quite frankly neglected for most part of the movie)
It's really weird to me that Jeremy acts like it's bad if movies with a female lead have said female lead falling in love as if the only thing that makes a female character viable is being a sexless loner. Does he think if little girls watch a movie where the main character falls in love with a prince that that's all she'll aspire towards? There's literally nothing wrong with a character falling in love with someone, that's not 'removing her agency' or whatever. The whole 'independent woman who don't need no man' was meant to be a joke not something to aspire towards.
It's not supposed to be a joke to not need a man's help. Many woman have had to rely only on their husbands and women got tired of it. However, having to rely on a man to support you and dating the one you love are different. You can fall in love and still take care of yourself.
The main cause of that is because Jeremy is a fake feminist. A lot of people including Jeremy go way too far with being "woke" and virtue signalling that they end up being what they sought to destroy. Take JK Rowling for example, in her attempts to "protect women" from trans women she ended up reducing women to nothing more than ovaries and chromosomes, which is misogynistic (and transphobic but I cba rn). It's the same as all the 13 year old white girls on tiktok trying to speak for the black community by cancelling things, this doesn't help black people it silences their voices. Jeremy is a key example of a virtue signaller, he spends so much time and effort to always point out strong female leads and other things that just come off as something no real feminist would ever say, and then he tries to justify some bullshit right after by saying he supports strong women it's just all very tone deaf
Lots of woke lunatics like Jeremy have this idea. Even in modern Hollywood somebody like Keira Knightly is banning her daughters to watch "Cinderella". Because you know, she waits for the guy lol. Heck your profile picture movie has the same idea. Captain Karen needs no guy, she can beat whole universe herself. Hollywood has this idea that females dont need to be good characters but need to be role models. Perfect in every way. Which in turn destroys relatability factor. And creates empty shallow characters that rarely who likes. Tiana is great. She has a dream, she is hard working, but hey she would never pass in todays Disney. Because she didnt beat everybody and because she needs a man by her side to finish her dream. You dont believe me? Take a look at what they did with my favorite Disney animated movie from 90s, Mulan. And what kind of travesty that live-action movie is.
I'm curious if Jeremy simply hates all movies because he tried to present a screenplay where everyone makes logical decisions, no logos, no narration, no tension. Everything is explained. And they laughed him out of there. So now he just hates all movies. All of them.
No one is talking about how DIRTY Cinema Sins does Charlotte. She's energetic and a little annoying, sure, but Charlotte isn't a horrible person. At the party when she sees Tiana on the ground, she doesn't get mad that the food is ruined. Instead, she asks what happened and quickly leaves her own party to get Tiana some new clothes to wear - even sincerely telling Tiana how beautiful she looks. Then, at the end of the movie, she doesn't get upset that the prince doesn't want to marry her, even though being with him has been her goal from the very beginning. Instead, she gives him up to Tiana without any fuss and expresses how happy she is for her. Lotti was energetic, a little annoying and spoiled but she wasn't a bad character or a bad friend. She subverts the expectation that rich girls are mean and stuck-up. Not ONCE does Lotti belittle Tiana for not being of the same background or not wearing as nice of clothes or having all the things she has. She's supportive, even when Tiana gets in the way of her biggest dream.
I agree. Yes, Charlotte was a tad bit annoying at times and spoiled rotten, but she still had a heart of gold, a strong sense of friendship and understanding, and showed genuine care and kindness. She's not all "Oh, a poor person? Bow before me for I am richer than you (laughs snobbily)." And I love that cause it's such a breath of fresh air and a complete subverting of the "all rich girls are spoiled rotten brats who think they can get anything they want."
Honestly, all his videos are just simply nitpicking at things he doesn't like or interpreting things in a negative way, not things that are actually wrong in the movie. That's basically the premise of his whole channel.
Bruh, the music in this movie is literally trying to emulate Jazz and Southern Blues, why is he calling it bland? It fits the setting. Edit: Almost there and friends on the other side are songs I listen to unironically because they’re that good
this music is a hell of a lot less bland than the repetitive "angelic slow princess singing about how she wants to explore the world" that we've gotten over and over and over again. As someone who hasn't really dipped their toes into soul music and other genres like it I can say that I've heard enough of it to know that it's possibly the furthest thing from bland you could possibly get
It's *classic,* not bland. Jeremy doesn't like it because the music didn't stimulate his toddler brain enough. It's got rhythm, patterns, colorful beats and smooth instruments that go well with the vibe of the movie and most of all are integrated effortfully into the setting and the culture it represents. Sinning a musical because YOU don't like the music, and broadcasting that opinion to your audience as critique or "nitpicking" was the most ridiculous moment in that video.
That's not the mindset of Jeremy, or me in the 2000's, I actually thought films like The Cat In The Hat and Chicken Little were good movies...I KNOW BETTER NOW😡😡😡 Hell, I was dumb enough to like Barney, but I'm glad I grew out of it, besides there's only one purple T-Rex I prefer, and that's Megatron from Beast Wars, David Kaye's performance is so nostalgic, that when I heard Frank Welker as Megatron in the G1 series, I was thing "NOT MY MEGATRON", and thankfully he got to reprise the role for that next CG Transformers series, Prime
That is exactly why most men Don't get #JennifersBody thriller movie. They were expecting sexual serial killer, she was but she was a Succubus and Bisexual not #Carrie
Did he actually say that Keith David has the worst voice in the whole cast? That might be the most insulting thing he’s ever said and considering who it is we’re talking about, that is really saying something. How dare he say that?
So I've never seen this movie, but I know the villain's song and the whole sequence and that's a work of art. Jeremy sinning it is something that borders on a crime against human nature.
He sinned Doctor Facilier, one of the most intriguing takes on a villain in recent memory with one of the best songs. He's unique to the setting, has a cool look and movement, his comeuppance at the end is the right amount of too much, and he's voiced by Keith David! For sinning anything about him let alone his villain song scene, Jeremy deserves one of the little voodoo dancers sticking that soft spot behind his ear with a pin every day for 5 months.
"Friends on the Other Side" was what got me to go watch "The Princess and the Frog" and it is one of many reasons why this is one of the best Disney movies.
As someone who has family in Louisiana, and is WELL acquainted with the food culture down there by now... im convinced Cinema Sins doesnt think Louisiana is a real place. Like... theres a REASON food plays such a big role in this film.
I'm Louisiana Creole and live in Lake Charles Louisiana and food is a high part of our culture period .... We show love with food not just with it but how we prepare and season our food ... We show friendship with food... Having a bad day... Eat this boudin I just got ... Your baby going to the first grade... Well let's cook a sauce... It's Thanksgiving... We having a seafood gumbo ... Good Friday we having a seafood cookout and a seafood boil ⚜️💚💛💜
I love Charlotte, she’s like the best friend ever. She hires her best friend and when something happens that could ruin the party, her first thought was her friend. Then she was totally understanding when she learned her friend turned into a frog. I think reading Reddit entitled people stories lowered the bar though. But I’m gonna start calling anti Karens Charlottes.
@Tobias Cox i’m still upset he complained about era appropriate music and said it wasn’t good. Like just bc you don’t like it JER doesn’t mean we all have to hate it
No. He just likes to complain about movies. He doesn’t like film, he doesn’t like to analyze film, he doesn’t like to present ideas that would have made the film flow better. Notice that he never talks about cinematography, themes, or movie structure. He just nitpicks, which is fine but he’s so arrogant that he thinks boner jokes are criticism.
Jeremy's "She was outbid, man!" comment is hilarious to me too. Like dude, it's pretty much explicitly said in the movie that the rich assholes who wouldn't give her the restaurant were just being racist pricks, 'cause you know, _Louisiana in the 1920s._ Did he not remember that line? "A little woman of your... _background..."?_
The fact he sinned all these incredible songs is insane. Also crazy that he decided to sin one of them with a parody from Song of the South which...no.
@@KillerEggFromOuterSpace Mm yes. I think I'll make a reference to a infamously racist Disney movie while reviewing a Disney movie with a mostly black human cast. This is a good idea.
15:40 but she doesn’t sacrifice her dream to be with him. They bonded and are now together working towards her goal right? Seems like a good relationship to me...
The fact that Jeremy dissed the music in the film was genuinely upsetting. It's up there as one of my favorite Disney soundtracks ever. Your sin on that one was just... *Chef's kiss*
Head cannon: Big daddy can afford any seamstress he wants yet he chooses Eudora? Well I believe big daddy is a family friend I think Tiana's dad saved big daddy's life during the war and because of this is close friends with both of them and hires Eudora to try and help them
that or just old friends in anyh situation, then when he told big daddy about his wife's talent, BOOM, not only helping a close friend it's also a revenue service to keep the family afloat along with his job
I mean Jeremy really doesn't have the right to complain about Keith David's voice. I'd rather listen to David's smooth as silk voice over Jeremy's whiny pre-pubescent rambling any day.
Meanwhile, a lot of people in the real world were actually lamenting that the villain was not given enough screen time. I concur. He was a really interesting villain. I definitely wanted to see more of him (and Friends on the Other Side is the best song in the movie!).
@@diegodunn-humphrey512 must be why he sinned Keith's voice, he has to listen to his own so much that he couldn't tell the difference between a soprano and a russian bass...
Ok I get not liking a movie, but Jeremy straight said "I REALLY don't like this movie" I would like to know the real context as to why honestly. Like why does he REALLY not like the movie? Like, how is that movie worse then being just "ok"?
“Judge a movie by what it is, not what you thought it would be.” The perfect message for Disney, Star Wars, Legend of Korra, and even some Marvel watchers.
@@LayMelody Yes, it is a sequel. It’s also a critically acclaimed show that tackled trauma, expanded the world of Avatar, gave us beautiful animation, and had one of the first gay couples and the two first bi characters in children’s animation (at least Western children’s animation). I know that some people just don’t enjoy this show, like with any other story, and I’m not going to invalidate that. But you’re ignoring the millions of people who love this show, their opinions, the views of professional critics, and several important points, while not presenting solid evidence for your argument. If you’re going to disagree with someone, please come prepared. Otherwise, you have no chance of convincing them, and you don’t make yourself look better. Now, I’m not trying to be antagonistic, and I’m open to a polite debate on the conversation. I respect your opinion. But if you aren’t willing to do the same, then I’m not going to waste my time with an online argument from which no benefit can be gained.
@@dionadair8195 I disagree. The fact that they left the bisexual thing to the very last moment of the very last episode lefft a sour taste in my mouth. If they wanted lgbtq representation, they should have done it way earlier. And don't bring up the comics that came after, because not everyone who watches the show will continue to read the books, which means the message is already lost on them in the first place. Also, tackled trauma? By doing what? Allowing Korra to recover offscreen after her poisoning, and getting her help from her ABUSER to overcome ptsd? Nah fam, this ain't it. This next part, is subjective: I don't think they expanded the world of Avatar in the right way. If anything, LOK spat in the face of ATLA by adding that Ravaa and Vaatu bullshit.
When Keith Davis chose to sing it actually shocked a few people he could sing cause they were originally gonna have someone else do the singing like they do in most animated films
Could someone explain to me where the movie had Tiana give up her own agency in the process of falling in love? I must have missed that part during the whole ending sequence of her putting a massive amount of hard work, alongside her supportive partner, to achieve the goal she wanted from the beginning. Does Jeremy really believe that having a romantic partner inherently involves a woman giving up her agency? Cause that's dumb as shit
Because the dude thinks that media is all a puzzle that must be "solved" and "correct". Literally every aspect of his pedantry comes from a need for things to be "right", transparently motivated by his need to feel superior to the people who never feel the need to question media despite that kinda being how art works.
The question itself isn't necessarily bad. Most fantasy stories do have rules and limitations to things like magic/sorcery, and those rules are important for the audience to know, but simple stories don't need tons or rules and as pointed out in this video, in many of Jeremy's sins, when films DO explain the rules and limitations, Jeremy either complains about them explaining or ignores their explanations and says they didn't explain. Fireflies being able to separate shadow demons with their LIGHT, for example, is something that's pretty easy to accept, given that shining light on shadows literally gets rid of them in the real world... The magic in this movie though is simple enough that it shouldn't require an explanation.
Yeah, this deserves to be given the CinemaWins treatment, along with Tangled, and every film in the Disney renaissance that he hasn't covered, and since the only two that were are Lion King and Mulan, that leaves 8 other films from that era
I don't accept the Charlotte slander.. Lotte is sweet and a great character and she is not just unbearable.(Talking abt cinema sins) In all seriousness tho she is a great character that's funny and sweet and breaks the stupid formula that a pink, spoiled rich girl HAS to be mean, and FINALLY a healthy female friendship witht his dynamic
Jeremy: "this movie Purports to Subvert the "girl pines for a prince and Sacrifices her own agency in the process" Cliché, but but totally falls back into that trap to engineer a Love story in the End"... Me: "At which point did Tiana Sacrifice her Own Agency to get the guy? SHE is the boss of her Restaurant by the end of the Movie and the Prince is Working for HER as a Waiter and Host for the clients. Cause to me it Seems more like she not only Kept her Agency, but also Liberated said Prince From his courtly Obligations Giving him more agency in the process...Since the Guy just wants to party all the time and now hi Job Description is Literally to keep the party going for the restaurant's Clients, win/win/win"
honestly, Tiana didnt fall for an emotionless price, Navein was a great character who grows and changes. Tiana helped make him a better person, and Navein showed Tiana how to have fun and not over work yourself, their character dynamic is unmatched and Jeremy is dumb
Jeremy thinks he's being a "good feminist" by calling love/marriage a "cliche" and claiming that women are better off alone and "give up their agency" when they fall in love and get married. All of that is nonsense. It's not even a "cliche" that it's only princess stories that end in love/marriage. Male lead adventure stories almost always end with love, as well. By and large, men and women both desire loving partners...
I think that he thinks that not liking something makes you look intelligent. It actually does, but not when you're not liking anything and for no reason.
5:16 Dr. Faciler is not transparent. He comes off as a tough guy to his partners and enemies, but he's terrified of his "Friends" on the other side, and what they'll do, and end up doing to him if he fails his end of their deal. Also thanks for 100 sins for the "Keith David has the worst voice" line. Friends on the Other Side rivals Hellfire for me as best villain song.
Energy, spoiled but also a good friend who always looks out for her poorer friend without pitying or demeaning her in any way... She's really sweet and funny in my opinion
Used to love CinemaSins, but as time went on, I started getting really confused on what is a "sin" to them and their jokes stopped hitting. So happy I found this channel, I'm recommending you to everyone I knew who used to like CinemaSins but got sick of them (which is a lot of people).
5:08 Wait you're telling me the villain who loves to play pranks on people with his magic because it's funny uses magic with a sense of comedic timing ? In a movie that is a comedy ? Unbelievable
6:10 the sin here really bugs me because it's very clearly established that Tiana is the kind of person who believes in hard work and wants to "earn" her restaurant, so obviously she wouldn't have asked Charlotte for money
Sinning Keith David, freaking GOLIATH from GARGOYLES, and a man with a voice so smooth I'm pretty sure a prophecy was made about it coming to Earth and saving mankind. If I ever needed a singular piece of evidence to demonstrate that Cinema Sins had their heads stuck up their own asses, this would be it.
I love how Mr. CS is like "Almost There" and "Friends on the Other Side" is forgettable and I'm over here singing these songs to myself even though I haven't heard them in years.
As a 20 year old straight white guy I can confidently say that this is probably my favorite Disney princess movie. I just love the new Orleans setting, and the music is pretty good too. Also it's always a treat to experience the great Keith David in literally anything he's been in. It's okay that Jeremy disliked this film, but dissing the phenomenal Keith David? That crosses the fucking line
It is really funny to me that CinemaSins still hasn't realised that Disney and Disney Animation are two different companies making the "Two logos for the same company" Joke hilariously wrong
I don't normally watch cinemasins' original videos when you sin them, but I just had to know what type of reception his video got, and I was pleasantly surprised to see that Jeremy's fanbase was actually able to form their own opinions and even agreed with a lot of the things you were saying in this video. Nice to know that his entire audience isn't made up of sheep
"Icky" He's not asking Tiana to make out with him for shits and giggles, nor is he asking for sex. It's literally a kiss to turn him back into a human, for which he will reward her.
For the last sin, I get the impression Jeremy genuinely thinks she was outbid. Growing up in what I can only assume is a white neighborhood in Tennessee, it's unlikely he's had many experiences with how minority groups are treated, especially historically. This is even more obvious with the way he regards feminism and sjw traits. He doesn't know what it's like, pretends to understand by following the bandwagon, and won't open a history book or Google page to learn a damned thing. Sincerely, a white guy from the hood who saw this shit every day.
Actually there is a reasoning behind the dead parent trope in Disney movies. I believe it was sometime shortly after Snow White had released, that Roy and Walt's mother passed away, walt took it particularly hard so for a while there Disney movies would have, specifically, the mother character be already passed away but eventually the trope evolved to be either parent.
Half of Jeremey's sins for this movie are just pure racism and misogynoir, the other half are sex jokes and elitism (puns and references to other movies that dont matter).
The video of that little girl at the end had me tearing up. I love this movie. Yes, she was a frog for the majority of the movie, and I can't say I loved that aspect, but everything else from ALL of the cast, to ALL of the music, Tiana and Lotties friendship, everything. SOOOOO Underrated
I kid you not: I never watched this movie again after getting traumatized by Facilie’s death when I went to the theatre with my mom and younger sister (at the time we were 8 and 6 respectively)
Just discovered your stuff. Haven’t watched Cinema Sins in years, precisely because of a lot of the reasons you point out. And man, I remember back when he first posted his video and I foamed at the mouth when he insulted Keith David’s voice. Thank you for calling him out on that. Keith Davids is a national treasure.
The little girl dancing in costume at the end made me so happy, bless her! And thank you for countering some of the daft or nonsensical sins this guy puts on movies
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@@randomkid1930 Man that song rocks!
4:11 I think I was just realized Jeremy's a quarter evil, half deluded, and a quarter cringe.
Do The Princes bride I fucking got board of that Cinema sins video and I didn't even get to the first 5 minutes
BTW, she didn't "give up her agency" for her relationship. She just *also* pursued her relationship. She said the dream's not *complete* without the guy, not "forget the dream, I want the guy." In the end, she became the only Disney princess I know of who is *also* a business owner and her own boss, soooo... Not needing a man doesn't mean you can't *have* a man.
Thank u i think showing young girls u can balance realanship and success at the same time
The argument that the relationship came out of nowhere and that they shouldn't have gotten together honestly just makes me think people didn't pay attention. 1st of all, at least they actually spent time together and didn't fall in love immediately like some other movies (yes I like those movies too but the relationship wouldn't be as realistic as the one in this one) Naveen was a play boy who knew how to have fun and win over women but he never actually cared for someone until Tiana, you could tell because when he was going to propose to her he felt nervous, something he didn't show when he was with any of the other women in the movie. They both have strengths that play to the other ones weaknesses. Tiana spins all day working and never has time for herself. Meanwhile Naveen is always partying and never works. Together they make a good team and balance each other out which is really what you need for a good business anyway.
@@nala6846 yeah she didn't fall for him when he was acting like a playboy that was weird
@@nala6846 yeah!
((And about the comment about play boys--- Kinda- you know- weird- ))
@@nala6846 I don't remember either of them saying it happened 100% of the time, just that it was 100% realistic, meaning that it doesn't require any exaggeration or bending of reality in order for it to be realistic. I would agree that if he said it was "100% of the time", that would be weird and factually inaccurate. "100% realistic" means something different
Excuse me WHAT!? Charlotte is an absolute cinnamon
Sure spoiled for being rich but she's a genuine good person, she's a great friend to Tiana and always puts her in front of her own needs if needed, which is SUCH a besutoful breath of fresh aie from the usual "Hurr durr rich friend greedy and bad" i've seen a lot
I agree!!! Lottie was an amazing friend and Tiana is very lucky to have her!
i read absolute as abusive and i was about to go off
Exactly! She’s spoiled, but not a spoiled brat!
And she never looked down on Tiana either, which is a big plus
The only other fictional characters that I know that aren’t “Herp Derp I’m rich and evil” are Tony Stark, Bruce Wayne, and Scrooge McDuck.
To be fair she didn’t fall for the prince when he was ACTING like a playboy she started to like him when he started to act more genuine and she starts to fall for him after he takes an interest in her interests and he minces her stuff as a gift and Charlotte is a great character
It's a lot like how people complain about Aladdin and Jasmine, and how "Oh, he's just lying to her the entire time, it's not ok!" when Jasmine only warms up to Prince Ali when he's acting like the real genuine him, and even calls him out of his bullshit.
@@munromister777 thank you
@@munromister777 People really complained about that even though there were several instances where she wasn't into his whole Prince Ali act? Those people must be dense
Yes, I like how Charlette was upper class, but was still best friends with Tiana and didn't treat her as if she was lower than her. I also don't think Jere.y knows how women work. I don't get why he expects strong women not to fall in love or want to fall in love. That's stupid. If anything this film should have showed him that you can be strong and be in love, but he was so set on Tiana being single. Also why the fuck did he think it was called The Princess and The Frog if she didn't date the prince?
Exactly!!!
If anything, Dr. Facilier whispering “you’re almost there” to Tiana when he wasn’t even introduced as a character yet when she sang that song makes him even creepier. It’s demonstrating that he has knowledge and power far greater than her and maybe even implying that he knows her as well as she knows herself, even though they’re strangers. All from that one phrase.
Also there’s nothing wrong for a woman to date a wealthy, elite, or promiscuous man, not to mention Tiana fell for the more genuine Naveen and showed no interest in him at all until he started to open up. The stereotype of black women always needing to be strong is actually known to be very harmful. Women aren’t caricatures or one-dimensional, they’re people, and people are complex. Turns out you can embrace femininity and want to get married while also being ambitious and strong, who knew????
You're right about everything.
This gave me so much serotonin
Wait did he say that when she was singing with her mom? Or do you mean near the end?
Thank you for telling it to them straight queen 👏🏾
I always assumed that he could read her mind
It’s also established Tiana has a lot of work ethic and pride. I have no doubt Lottie has offered to give Tiana straight up the money for the restaurant, but Tiana refused. At the end of the movie, when she’s married a prince, Tiana still buys the building with the same bills she intended to buy it with at the start of the movie. She’s determined to show she’s worked for the restaurant.
Yep because she's a strong woman and marriage doesn't change that like Jeremy seems to think.
@@yeemawheaver1387 Right, having a man does not make someone weaker. In fact, it's still Tiana's money that buys the restaurant with no additional help from Naveen. Marriage didn't get her the restaurant, just someone to spend the next section of her life with.
Blueberry Car Wreck They make each other better people. Tiana helps instil a sense of responsibility in Naveen while he helps her stop to smell the roses and enjoy life.
Yup
So true, even in my real life had people who were well off always offer to pay for something for me, when I rather work hard and not take advantage of them or their money. Tiana's strong work ethic is something I can really resonate with because it is a nice payoff in the end and knowing she had Lottie there to support her, even if she could just give her the money for the restaurant, it just shows how strong their friendship is too.
Charlotte is an absolute Queen and anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong. Her friendship with Tiana is magnificent and one of the best I've seen
Right I love their friend ship. The writer could've easily made her a mean girl, but decided to make her a friend.
I loved that Tiana got a best friend and it was sweet and they kept her a friend and didn't make Charlotte a villain
I wouldn't say wrong, I'd just say that there's a difference in opinion. But you are right (I do share your opinion) about the fact that they are true friends, and that their friendship is magnificent.
I like that Lottie even with being a spoiled rich girl is genuinely a good person. She was even willing to give up her dream so that Tiana could have hers come true
@@dragoniccrab let’s also not skip past that this movie was set 1930-60s so points for also not looking down on tiana
Seriously underrated movie. Friends On the Other Side is still one of my favorite Disney Villain songs.
It’s probably my favorite tbh.
This movie was better than the overrated Frozen movies (and Tangled was also better than Frozen).
Hell yeah it was!
Same
@@JayRedGear heck yeah
“Jeremy claims he supports representation while failing to understand what representation means cliché.” _ding_
Yesss!!!
Bland? Boring?! THE OPPOSITE OF AN EARWORM?! I HAVENT SEEN THIS MOVIE IN YEARS AND IM STILL SINGING ALMOST THERE AND DIG A LITTLE DEEPER
DIG A LITTLE DEEPER IS SUCH A BOP I CANT-
THE AUDACITY-
Friends On The Other side is my favorite villain song
@@genericname2747
Unus Annus? MEMENTO MORI!?!
SAME,,,, WTF
@@grayskyee Memento mori to you as well
... Am I wrong if I say that Tianas character arc was completely perfect? Don't get me wrong the message of "Hard work pays off" is certainly the one that is the most prominent. Tiana worked hard to achieve her goal of the restaurant she and her father dreamed of. But from the very beginning it was never about the restaurant for her father. He loved food because it brought people together. He valued companionship, friendship and (romantic) love. The restaurant was just a means to an end. So when Tiana gave up on the restaurant it was not because of her submitting to "the woman's role" but her finally understanding what her father meant when he said "Don't lose sight of what is really important" which would be relationships to other people (that she quite frankly neglected for most part of the movie)
Yup, you right, I agree 100%.
that's such a good deduction.
Absolutely
Shit you put it so well 😭
So true! We even got a whole song about it with "Dig a little deeper"
It's really weird to me that Jeremy acts like it's bad if movies with a female lead have said female lead falling in love as if the only thing that makes a female character viable is being a sexless loner. Does he think if little girls watch a movie where the main character falls in love with a prince that that's all she'll aspire towards? There's literally nothing wrong with a character falling in love with someone, that's not 'removing her agency' or whatever. The whole 'independent woman who don't need no man' was meant to be a joke not something to aspire towards.
also gives off the implication that romance removes your individuality. very healthy message there...
@@nnewt8445 you are damn right
It's not supposed to be a joke to not need a man's help. Many woman have had to rely only on their husbands and women got tired of it. However, having to rely on a man to support you and dating the one you love are different. You can fall in love and still take care of yourself.
The main cause of that is because Jeremy is a fake feminist. A lot of people including Jeremy go way too far with being "woke" and virtue signalling that they end up being what they sought to destroy. Take JK Rowling for example, in her attempts to "protect women" from trans women she ended up reducing women to nothing more than ovaries and chromosomes, which is misogynistic (and transphobic but I cba rn). It's the same as all the 13 year old white girls on tiktok trying to speak for the black community by cancelling things, this doesn't help black people it silences their voices. Jeremy is a key example of a virtue signaller, he spends so much time and effort to always point out strong female leads and other things that just come off as something no real feminist would ever say, and then he tries to justify some bullshit right after by saying he supports strong women it's just all very tone deaf
Lots of woke lunatics like Jeremy have this idea. Even in modern Hollywood somebody like Keira Knightly is banning her daughters to watch "Cinderella". Because you know, she waits for the guy lol. Heck your profile picture movie has the same idea. Captain Karen needs no guy, she can beat whole universe herself. Hollywood has this idea that females dont need to be good characters but need to be role models. Perfect in every way. Which in turn destroys relatability factor. And creates empty shallow characters that rarely who likes. Tiana is great. She has a dream, she is hard working, but hey she would never pass in todays Disney. Because she didnt beat everybody and because she needs a man by her side to finish her dream. You dont believe me? Take a look at what they did with my favorite Disney animated movie from 90s, Mulan. And what kind of travesty that live-action movie is.
I'm curious if Jeremy simply hates all movies because he tried to present a screenplay where everyone makes logical decisions, no logos, no narration, no tension. Everything is explained. And they laughed him out of there.
So now he just hates all movies.
All of them.
villain backstory
I want a movie about that
@@genericname2747
UNUS ANNUS, UNUS ANNUS
@@genericname2747 Memento mori.
Doofenshmirtz's new sad backstory
Shit man, if a woman comes up to me with a bi-pedal gator and asks me for something, she's getting it.
Yep, that's how extortion works...
Sooooo Tiana goes to jail up to 20 years ;-)
@@nekonomicon2983 of course they were, but that doesn't excuse a felony...
It's just fun to realise, how we overlook serious crimes in cartoons.
YEET!!!
I’m pretty gators are already semi-bipedal
*pulls out a baby alligator*
Give me your bank account
No one is talking about how DIRTY Cinema Sins does Charlotte.
She's energetic and a little annoying, sure, but Charlotte isn't a horrible person.
At the party when she sees Tiana on the ground, she doesn't get mad that the food is ruined. Instead, she asks what happened and quickly leaves her own party to get Tiana some new clothes to wear - even sincerely telling Tiana how beautiful she looks.
Then, at the end of the movie, she doesn't get upset that the prince doesn't want to marry her, even though being with him has been her goal from the very beginning. Instead, she gives him up to Tiana without any fuss and expresses how happy she is for her.
Lotti was energetic, a little annoying and spoiled but she wasn't a bad character or a bad friend. She subverts the expectation that rich girls are mean and stuck-up. Not ONCE does Lotti belittle Tiana for not being of the same background or not wearing as nice of clothes or having all the things she has. She's supportive, even when Tiana gets in the way of her biggest dream.
I agree. Yes, Charlotte was a tad bit annoying at times and spoiled rotten, but she still had a heart of gold, a strong sense of friendship and understanding, and showed genuine care and kindness. She's not all "Oh, a poor person? Bow before me for I am richer than you (laughs snobbily)." And I love that cause it's such a breath of fresh air and a complete subverting of the "all rich girls are spoiled rotten brats who think they can get anything they want."
I literally don't understand Jeremy's arguments about this film
It's a fucking great film
you understand his arguments about other films?
Oh good god no
Qualquer gamer Only like 1% of the time. 99% of his arguments are horseshit.
Litrally
Honestly, all his videos are just simply nitpicking at things he doesn't like or interpreting things in a negative way, not things that are actually wrong in the movie. That's basically the premise of his whole channel.
Bruh, the music in this movie is literally trying to emulate Jazz and Southern Blues, why is he calling it bland? It fits the setting.
Edit: Almost there and friends on the other side are songs I listen to unironically because they’re that good
agreed. I don't find the music bland at all, and considering like Birdman pointed out it was /nominated/ then... Other people clearly agree.
this music is a hell of a lot less bland than the repetitive "angelic slow princess singing about how she wants to explore the world" that we've gotten over and over and over again. As someone who hasn't really dipped their toes into soul music and other genres like it I can say that I've heard enough of it to know that it's possibly the furthest thing from bland you could possibly get
Friends on the other side is my favorite song in all of Disney. I love most of the music so idk how it is bland.
It's *classic,* not bland. Jeremy doesn't like it because the music didn't stimulate his toddler brain enough. It's got rhythm, patterns, colorful beats and smooth instruments that go well with the vibe of the movie and most of all are integrated effortfully into the setting and the culture it represents. Sinning a musical because YOU don't like the music, and broadcasting that opinion to your audience as critique or "nitpicking" was the most ridiculous moment in that video.
also Jeremy misses the OBVIOUS point that this movie is set in the 1920s, hence the style and music.
"Judge a movie on what it is, not what you thought it would be" So true and applies to pretty much everything.
That's not the mindset of Jeremy, or me in the 2000's, I actually thought films like The Cat In The Hat and Chicken Little were good movies...I KNOW BETTER NOW😡😡😡
Hell, I was dumb enough to like Barney, but I'm glad I grew out of it, besides there's only one purple T-Rex I prefer, and that's Megatron from Beast Wars, David Kaye's performance is so nostalgic, that when I heard Frank Welker as Megatron in the G1 series, I was thing "NOT MY MEGATRON", and thankfully he got to reprise the role for that next CG Transformers series, Prime
@@erichfiedler1481 Fuck yeah, Beast Wars!
That is exactly why most men
Don't get #JennifersBody thriller movie.
They were expecting sexual serial killer, she was but she was a Succubus and Bisexual not #Carrie
I am actually blinded by rage that he thought "Friends From the Other Side" and Kieth David are bad. It's legit one of the best Disney Villain songs!
The best one sitting with Hellfire, yeah? 😁
I think you mean "one of the best Disney songs". It and Hellfire are better than 90% of other Disney songs without even trying.
Either this or Oggie Boogie’s Song
Did he actually say that Keith David has the worst voice in the whole cast? That might be the most insulting thing he’s ever said and considering who it is we’re talking about, that is really saying something. How dare he say that?
As far as he knows, *he’s already dead.*
Facilier is sending Shadow Demons after him
Jeremy: Says Keith David has the worst voice in the movie.
Dr. Facilier: "DON'T YOU DISRESPECT ME, LITTLE MAN!"
if Keith's voice is the worst then this movie has some excellent voices
Jeremy: Disrespects Keith David
Comments: ARE YOU READY?
Don't your dare delegate and derive!
@@BeastWarsFan Your in my world now, not your world
@@purpledragon1945 And I got friends on the other side...
So I've never seen this movie, but I know the villain's song and the whole sequence and that's a work of art. Jeremy sinning it is something that borders on a crime against human nature.
He sinned Doctor Facilier, one of the most intriguing takes on a villain in recent memory with one of the best songs. He's unique to the setting, has a cool look and movement, his comeuppance at the end is the right amount of too much, and he's voiced by Keith David! For sinning anything about him let alone his villain song scene, Jeremy deserves one of the little voodoo dancers sticking that soft spot behind his ear with a pin every day for 5 months.
"Friends on the Other Side" was what got me to go watch "The Princess and the Frog" and it is one of many reasons why this is one of the best Disney movies.
MasterJayShay, we have to change that. Movie night at my house, all prepare the the popcorn 🍿🍿🍿🍿
@@jisthecoolest-_-1741 Unfortunately I doubt we're within driving distance of one another lol
"I want a refund on the hallucinogenics" on a scene with hallucinogenic style imagery... Not sure Cinemasins understands refund policies.
As someone who has family in Louisiana, and is WELL acquainted with the food culture down there by now... im convinced Cinema Sins doesnt think Louisiana is a real place. Like... theres a REASON food plays such a big role in this film.
I’ve lived in Louisiana, my school’s education wasn’t really good but those beignets were awesome. Childhood treasure
AGREED!
I'm not even from Louisiana and i know food is very important there
I'm Louisiana Creole and live in Lake Charles Louisiana and food is a high part of our culture period .... We show love with food not just with it but how we prepare and season our food ... We show friendship with food... Having a bad day... Eat this boudin I just got ... Your baby going to the first grade... Well let's cook a sauce... It's Thanksgiving... We having a seafood gumbo ... Good Friday we having a seafood cookout and a seafood boil ⚜️💚💛💜
Yeah, he is quite the fool.
Laissez les bons temps rouler!
I can’t believe that jermey said he’s not a fan of this movie, and that’s sinful as shit...
That alone is worth at least 100 sins.
Wonder if there's a reason for him not liking it. 🤔🤔🤔
@@gavinmyatt5589 agreed, Princess and the Frog is a top tier Disney movie
@@gavinmyatt5589 more like 1,000 sins
@@paulheap1982 black princess
I love Charlotte, she’s like the best friend ever. She hires her best friend and when something happens that could ruin the party, her first thought was her friend. Then she was totally understanding when she learned her friend turned into a frog.
I think reading Reddit entitled people stories lowered the bar though. But I’m gonna start calling anti Karens Charlottes.
Awww😭
That’s perfect!!! 🥺
My cousin is named Charlotte and she's so sweet, that name is perfect!
@@katie15732 Charlotte it is then
We need to get on that, that is brilliant!
He really REALLY doesn’t like this movie??? Seriously does Jeremy like cinema at all?
@Tobias Cox i’m still upset he complained about era appropriate music and said it wasn’t good. Like just bc you don’t like it JER doesn’t mean we all have to hate it
NO
Of course not. If he did, he wouldn't shit on good movies for the most nitpicky stuff that Live Action Disney Movies are catering now.
No I'm pretty sure he's said multiple times that he hates movies
No. He just likes to complain about movies. He doesn’t like film, he doesn’t like to analyze film, he doesn’t like to present ideas that would have made the film flow better. Notice that he never talks about cinematography, themes, or movie structure. He just nitpicks, which is fine but he’s so arrogant that he thinks boner jokes are criticism.
Jeremy's "She was outbid, man!" comment is hilarious to me too.
Like dude, it's pretty much explicitly said in the movie that the rich assholes who wouldn't give her the restaurant were just being racist pricks, 'cause you know, _Louisiana in the 1920s._ Did he not remember that line? "A little woman of your... _background..."?_
He's acting like me when I was a kid, i.e dumb
When Jeremy sinned "friends on the other side" , I nearly screamed.
Like, how DARE he sin the best villain song since hellfire?
The fact he sinned all these incredible songs is insane. Also crazy that he decided to sin one of them with a parody from Song of the South which...no.
@@KillerEggFromOuterSpace Mm yes. I think I'll make a reference to a infamously racist Disney movie while reviewing a Disney movie with a mostly black human cast.
This is a good idea.
@@KillerEggFromOuterSpace THANK YOU
Is this a joke? It is the only Villain song since hellfire...?
@@Roberto-vt1ck moana has one and so does tangled
15:40 but she doesn’t sacrifice her dream to be with him. They bonded and are now together working towards her goal right? Seems like a good relationship to me...
Cinemasins Jeremy: Desperately trying to be cool
Birdman: Effortlessly cool
TOTALLY.
That's why we love him.
(One reason.)
🥰
Yes
Yes
its true-
Jeremy just has that "How do you do fellow kids" energy, whereas Birdman, hes just kinda vibing-
and as a teenager, i dub him a fellow kid
@@grayskyee aw yes a man of culture.
The fact that Jeremy dissed the music in the film was genuinely upsetting. It's up there as one of my favorite Disney soundtracks ever. Your sin on that one was just... *Chef's kiss*
How dare he insult Keith David’s voice.
Sinning Spawn.
Well... Somebody will wait for Jeremy's sorry ass in the afterlife
@@wyamccor sinning Goliath king of the Gargoyles
Sinning the Arbiter
@@sansthedrummer were it so easy...
When he said the music was “forgettable”
I
F*cking
Lost
It.
Head cannon: Big daddy can afford any seamstress he wants yet he chooses Eudora? Well I believe big daddy is a family friend I think Tiana's dad saved big daddy's life during the war and because of this is close friends with both of them and hires Eudora to try and help them
I actually like that headcannon!
I'd buy that
that or just old friends in anyh situation, then when he told big daddy about his wife's talent, BOOM, not only helping a close friend it's also a revenue service to keep the family afloat along with his job
@@DragonKirby well Tiana's dad is a veteran of the first world War that was shown in the film both big daddy and Tiana's dad are around the same age
@@redplanetstudio7192 i haven't watched the movie in a while so certain details aren't in my head
That little girl dressed as Tiana dancing was adorable! ❤️❤️❤️💃
I mean Jeremy really doesn't have the right to complain about Keith David's voice.
I'd rather listen to David's smooth as silk voice over Jeremy's whiny pre-pubescent rambling any day.
Meanwhile, a lot of people in the real world were actually lamenting that the villain was not given enough screen time. I concur. He was a really interesting villain. I definitely wanted to see more of him (and Friends on the Other Side is the best song in the movie!).
Jeremy’s voice makes my ears bleed
@@diegodunn-humphrey512 must be why he sinned Keith's voice, he has to listen to his own so much that he couldn't tell the difference between a soprano and a russian bass...
Keith’s voice is smooth like butter, I’ve been in love with it since I was a kid watching Gargoyles!
Ok I get not liking a movie, but Jeremy straight said "I REALLY don't like this movie"
I would like to know the real context as to why honestly. Like why does he REALLY not like the movie? Like, how is that movie worse then being just "ok"?
I don't like this movie because I got turned into a frog once
I don't like this movie cause it was overplayed as shit as a kid and I never had an official copy just a recording someone took at the theater 💀
I dont like this movie because I am a frog
I don’t like this movie because I watched it with a blindfold and earplugs underwater.
@@genericname2747 same lol and im still stuck help 😭😭😭😂
The absolute audacity of Jeremy to diss this movie's music.
Maybe because its not "generic white dude MOR"
As a black southerner I was offended.
He really said "this music bad" while listening to this jazz style music.
The absolute CAUCASITY*
@@quinking9609
OH MY GOD- 😭✌🏻
“Judge a movie by what it is, not what you thought it would be.”
The perfect message for Disney, Star Wars, Legend of Korra, and even some Marvel watchers.
I second this.
I third this!!!
But Korra is legitimately bad though. It is meant to be a sequel and fails in almost every way possible.
@@LayMelody Yes, it is a sequel. It’s also a critically acclaimed show that tackled trauma, expanded the world of Avatar, gave us beautiful animation, and had one of the first gay couples and the two first bi characters in children’s animation (at least Western children’s animation). I know that some people just don’t enjoy this show, like with any other story, and I’m not going to invalidate that. But you’re ignoring the millions of people who love this show, their opinions, the views of professional critics, and several important points, while not presenting solid evidence for your argument. If you’re going to disagree with someone, please come prepared. Otherwise, you have no chance of convincing them, and you don’t make yourself look better. Now, I’m not trying to be antagonistic, and I’m open to a polite debate on the conversation. I respect your opinion. But if you aren’t willing to do the same, then I’m not going to waste my time with an online argument from which no benefit can be gained.
@@dionadair8195 I disagree. The fact that they left the bisexual thing to the very last moment of the very last episode lefft a sour taste in my mouth. If they wanted lgbtq representation, they should have done it way earlier. And don't bring up the comics that came after, because not everyone who watches the show will continue to read the books, which means the message is already lost on them in the first place. Also, tackled trauma? By doing what? Allowing Korra to recover offscreen after her poisoning, and getting her help from her ABUSER to overcome ptsd? Nah fam, this ain't it. This next part, is subjective: I don't think they expanded the world of Avatar in the right way. If anything, LOK spat in the face of ATLA by adding that Ravaa and Vaatu bullshit.
That Charlotte burn to Jeremy was the best roast I have heard in my 16 years on earth. Nice one, Birdman.
It’s comforting to know I’m not the only 16-year-old interested in these videos XD
No worries, guys. I'm 19
not 16 yet but will be soon
Fun fact about Voodoo, Jeremy
He can't conjure a THING for himself.
It's literally the ONLY limitation given
When Keith Davis chose to sing it actually shocked a few people he could sing cause they were originally gonna have someone else do the singing like they do in most animated films
This makes me angrier at CinemaSins.
BWF
And he hit it out of the ballpark with one of the best Disney songs.
He sinned friends on the other side........
HE HAS CHOSEN DEATH IN THE WORST WAY POSSIBLE
*ARE YOU READY?!??!?!*
@@anib8863 BUM BUM BUM BUM ARE YOU READY
If you don't like Keith David's voice, I don't like you as a person...
Agreed!
Yep agreed
Double agreed
Agreed, change our minds
I genuinely don't know why he doesn't like his voice. It's perfectly sinister and the voice actor puts the most emotion into it-
Could someone explain to me where the movie had Tiana give up her own agency in the process of falling in love? I must have missed that part during the whole ending sequence of her putting a massive amount of hard work, alongside her supportive partner, to achieve the goal she wanted from the beginning. Does Jeremy really believe that having a romantic partner inherently involves a woman giving up her agency? Cause that's dumb as shit
Hmm idk let me go rewatch the movie
Naw didn't see any
I just wanted a excuse to rewatch the movie😅😅
why do cinemasins take fantasy literally? No seriously Jeremy is asking how does magic work in a fictional world
Easy comedy.
Not always a bad thing.
@@BlackCover95 but it gets annoying real quick
Because the dude thinks that media is all a puzzle that must be "solved" and "correct". Literally every aspect of his pedantry comes from a need for things to be "right", transparently motivated by his need to feel superior to the people who never feel the need to question media despite that kinda being how art works.
@@BlackCover95 for a quick joke maybe, but he brings up the same "hOw do MagiC wOrk" joke like 4 times in the video.
The question itself isn't necessarily bad. Most fantasy stories do have rules and limitations to things like magic/sorcery, and those rules are important for the audience to know, but simple stories don't need tons or rules and as pointed out in this video, in many of Jeremy's sins, when films DO explain the rules and limitations, Jeremy either complains about them explaining or ignores their explanations and says they didn't explain. Fireflies being able to separate shadow demons with their LIGHT, for example, is something that's pretty easy to accept, given that shining light on shadows literally gets rid of them in the real world... The magic in this movie though is simple enough that it shouldn't require an explanation.
Love how Charlotte isn't a generic mean, spoiled, rich, snob. She's kind and put Tiana's needs before hers
How could one sin such a classic
No idea
Because he's CinemaSins, the guy who sins great movies and expects everyone else to roll with it.
The power of the idiot
Yeah, this deserves to be given the CinemaWins treatment, along with Tangled, and every film in the Disney renaissance that he hasn't covered, and since the only two that were are Lion King and Mulan, that leaves 8 other films from that era
He's from Tennessee. And this is a Disney movie featuring their first black princess. Sooooo... Lol.
I don't accept the Charlotte slander.. Lotte is sweet and a great character and she is not just unbearable.(Talking abt cinema sins)
In all seriousness tho she is a great character that's funny and sweet and breaks the stupid formula that a pink, spoiled rich girl HAS to be mean, and FINALLY a healthy female friendship witht his dynamic
Jeremy: Isn't a fan of this movie and sins it for no reason
Me: ARE YOU *R E A D Y*
*DX theme plays*
ARE you REAAADY
Transformation circle
Can you FEEL IT
ARE YOU
REEEAAAADY
Jeremy: "this movie Purports to Subvert the "girl pines for a prince and Sacrifices her own agency in the process" Cliché, but but totally falls back into that trap to engineer a Love story in the End"...
Me: "At which point did Tiana Sacrifice her Own Agency to get the guy? SHE is the boss of her Restaurant by the end of the Movie and the Prince is Working for HER as a Waiter and Host for the clients. Cause to me it Seems more like she not only Kept her Agency, but also Liberated said Prince From his courtly Obligations Giving him more agency in the process...Since the Guy just wants to party all the time and now hi Job Description is Literally to keep the party going for the restaurant's Clients, win/win/win"
honestly, Tiana didnt fall for an emotionless price, Navein was a great character who grows and changes.
Tiana helped make him a better person, and Navein showed Tiana how to have fun and not over work yourself, their character dynamic is unmatched and Jeremy is dumb
Jeremy doesn't understand movies cliche.
"Jeremy misuses the term cliché" cliché
Jeremy thinks he's being a "good feminist" by calling love/marriage a "cliche" and claiming that women are better off alone and "give up their agency" when they fall in love and get married. All of that is nonsense. It's not even a "cliche" that it's only princess stories that end in love/marriage. Male lead adventure stories almost always end with love, as well. By and large, men and women both desire loving partners...
"Okay, I reeeally don't like this movie"
That's -100 respect from me, Jeremy
Wait, Jeremy is actually respected?
I think that he thinks that not liking something makes you look intelligent. It actually does, but not when you're not liking anything and for no reason.
You do know he takes away sins for good movies to watch some of those and stop being dicks
@@zai1111 He gives sins for things he likes. Jeremy is an idiot.
5:16 Dr. Faciler is not transparent. He comes off as a tough guy to his partners and enemies, but he's terrified of his "Friends" on the other side, and what they'll do, and end up doing to him if he fails his end of their deal. Also thanks for 100 sins for the "Keith David has the worst voice" line. Friends on the Other Side rivals Hellfire for me as best villain song.
I love Charlotte in this movie, she has so much energy that I want to reach
Energy, spoiled but also a good friend who always looks out for her poorer friend without pitying or demeaning her in any way... She's really sweet and funny in my opinion
She's just a good vibe
Used to love CinemaSins, but as time went on, I started getting really confused on what is a "sin" to them and their jokes stopped hitting. So happy I found this channel, I'm recommending you to everyone I knew who used to like CinemaSins but got sick of them (which is a lot of people).
How dare he call this soundtrack bland?!?!?!
I didn't know an opinion could be objectively wrong, but Jeremy's done it.
I just watched this the other day and Ray and Evangeline still get the tears going 10 years later 🥺
They really killed off the funny animal sidekick
5:08 Wait you're telling me the villain who loves to play pranks on people with his magic because it's funny uses magic with a sense of comedic timing ? In a movie that is a comedy ? Unbelievable
6:10 the sin here really bugs me because it's very clearly established that Tiana is the kind of person who believes in hard work and wants to "earn" her restaurant, so obviously she wouldn't have asked Charlotte for money
Thanks for addressing the cringe sexual jokes. Those are just gross.
The clip at the end with the results was cute!
6:33 “sure to be forgotten”
Me who has almost all the princess and the frog songs memorized notes and all:
👁 👄 👁
friends on the other side is still an amazing villain song
The "are you ready" part always scares the shit out of me and that's exactly what I expect from a good villain song
@@Olivviaooo yup
the clip of the little girl at the end dancing her heart out was so precious
Sinning Keith David, freaking GOLIATH from GARGOYLES, and a man with a voice so smooth I'm pretty sure a prophecy was made about it coming to Earth and saving mankind.
If I ever needed a singular piece of evidence to demonstrate that Cinema Sins had their heads stuck up their own asses, this would be it.
Not to mention AL FREAKING SIMMONS, THE KING OF HELL?! Come on, man!! ;~;
same with my main man, Arbiter
Keith David to me is Captain Anderson, the best military commander in sci-fi history in my mind.
Keith David is spawn... F**KING SPAWN I love that guy
I love how Mr. CS is like "Almost There" and "Friends on the Other Side" is forgettable and I'm over here singing these songs to myself even though I haven't heard them in years.
Birdman blesses his buddies by blasting biased blockbuster bullies
Alliteration is awesome
*(Ding)*
I say we go and troll Jeremy
@@Kristofer382 and by that reply I'm guessing your one two?
As a 20 year old straight white guy I can confidently say that this is probably my favorite Disney princess movie. I just love the new Orleans setting, and the music is pretty good too. Also it's always a treat to experience the great Keith David in literally anything he's been in.
It's okay that Jeremy disliked this film, but dissing the phenomenal Keith David? That crosses the fucking line
“Judge a movie on what it is not what you’d thought it would be” 🤯 bruh
That Boondocks clip was the cherry on top for this video.
7:30 - DID MY MANS REALLY JUST SHIT ON *FRIENDS ON THE OTHER SIDE?!*
[Rolls up Sleeves] LET ME THE FUCK ATTEM!
It is really funny to me that CinemaSins still hasn't realised that Disney and Disney Animation are two different companies making the "Two logos for the same company" Joke hilariously wrong
"Keith David has the worst voice"
Okay that's it... as a black man I'm going to fight him....
Wanna join me in Jeremy's comment section on his next video?
@@ondururagittandeska2004 Yeah let's goooooo
@@deathkorpsinfantryman1898 Right....
@@deadplthebadass21 Alright I'll bring the Ora barrages in case Jeremy's idiots give us any trouble
@@ondururagittandeska2004 lol ok
I don't normally watch cinemasins' original videos when you sin them, but I just had to know what type of reception his video got, and I was pleasantly surprised to see that Jeremy's fanbase was actually able to form their own opinions and even agreed with a lot of the things you were saying in this video. Nice to know that his entire audience isn't made up of sheep
“Why do you guys always request animated films?” I never thought of that, Poor Birdman 😂😭
Jeremy: "I don't like this movie."
Screen Rant Producer: "Okay, some people better die for that."
Actually his name is Producer Guy.
LoL Ryan George
i know he didnt call "Im Almost There" forgettable when "I can go the distance" is RIGHT THERE
"Icky" He's not asking Tiana to make out with him for shits and giggles, nor is he asking for sex. It's literally a kiss to turn him back into a human, for which he will reward her.
I avoided this movie for years based on it's title.
Finally watched it when I was 18 and I ended up loving it.
For the last sin, I get the impression Jeremy genuinely thinks she was outbid. Growing up in what I can only assume is a white neighborhood in Tennessee, it's unlikely he's had many experiences with how minority groups are treated, especially historically. This is even more obvious with the way he regards feminism and sjw traits. He doesn't know what it's like, pretends to understand by following the bandwagon, and won't open a history book or Google page to learn a damned thing.
Sincerely, a white guy from the hood who saw this shit every day.
Actually there is a reasoning behind the dead parent trope in Disney movies. I believe it was sometime shortly after Snow White had released, that Roy and Walt's mother passed away, walt took it particularly hard so for a while there Disney movies would have, specifically, the mother character be already passed away but eventually the trope evolved to be either parent.
Half of Jeremey's sins for this movie are just pure racism and misogynoir, the other half are sex jokes and elitism (puns and references to other movies that dont matter).
I was thinking this
I think you meant his sins for *most* movies
He's basically a record that repeats the same jokes at infinitum
Also, whomever drew the art for the thumbnail, whether it was you or a fan of yours, must really be great at art!
The video of that little girl at the end had me tearing up. I love this movie. Yes, she was a frog for the majority of the movie, and I can't say I loved that aspect, but everything else from ALL of the cast, to ALL of the music, Tiana and Lotties friendship, everything. SOOOOO Underrated
I kid you not: I never watched this movie again after getting traumatized by Facilie’s death when I went to the theatre with my mom and younger sister (at the time we were 8 and 6 respectively)
I thought I was the only one who was terrified of that scene
Welcome to the club.
Just discovered your stuff. Haven’t watched Cinema Sins in years, precisely because of a lot of the reasons you point out. And man, I remember back when he first posted his video and I foamed at the mouth when he insulted Keith David’s voice. Thank you for calling him out on that. Keith Davids is a national treasure.
Saw this movie in the theater when it came out
Same!
Same, it was amazing even though I was like 10 maybe
The little girl dancing in costume at the end made me so happy, bless her! And thank you for countering some of the daft or nonsensical sins this guy puts on movies
15:50 Jeremy has never heard of "enemies to lovers" **ding**
Now this is a man who know how to appreciate Keith David's voice!
You’re telling me that Jeremy sinned Keith David’s voice? KEITH DAVID?!?!
That little girl at the end was everything good that came out of this movie 😊
I am right there with you on the Stinkmeaner transformation when he said Keith David had "the worst voice". Goliath would kick his ass for that shit.
And Spawn would be his backup.
😌✨
Cinemawins: chill vibes
CinemaSins: just targets everything and counts it as a sin
Cinamawins is Cinamasins shadow self.
He is everything Cinamasins isn't
Underrated movie. Friends on the other side id a banger
I couldn't wait for your reaction to the whole Keith David thing and I was NOT let down. Good job
7:42 *proceeds to break reality*
About 90% of these sins can be shortened to: “Jeremy”. That’s it.
After seeing that notification and movie in the thumbnail i knew this was gonna be something
Fun Fact: The Princess and the Frog was the first movie I've ever saw!
Just curious but how old are you?
8:58 Yup. The Aqua Man sex joke Was unforgivable. Elghghuf.