So Where Are We With Solid State Batteries? | Answers With Joe
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We've been hearing a lot about the potential of solid state batteries over the last few years. But how close are we to the solid state revolution? And will it be a revolution at all?
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That intro, Joe, is pure energy. You could power cities off of it. I was in stitches at "is this... underwear?" 🤣
Ikr.
Message to Joe.
That was awaresome. Loved every seccond. Needed a good laugh and wolah, there it was.
Thank you.
@Timothy McCaskey 🤣👍
I bought that mask and had to tell my wife I didn’t have a pair of women’s underwear in my pocket.
This was worth waching just for the intro.
as always
BINOD
@@nikhildeshmukh6851 Binod
Always has been
Always ...
Joe- "is this underwear?"
John Mcafee - "no but you can replace it with underwear"
The only comment that actually made me lol! So underrated...
it's funny cause someone actually went out wearing it like a thong with nothing else on and theres even women who have worn it as a bikini!
@@Dr.Kryptanical it was me memeing about john mcafee wearing a thong on his face and trying to go into mask only places.
The temporal spatial bubble introduction is a brilliant time traveler's perspective on how things were before the pandemic. Congratulations Joe!
"And i'm happy to say that the state of solid state batteries, is solid"
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Together we can stop this
Ahh yes, the water is wet.
and I'm happy to state that the state of state solid batteries is, indeed, solid.
Those poor minutes
For only 2 cents a day
I was starting to get worried that this update wouldn’t B. Goodenough but you came through in the last bit
Good one.
Why
@@xiphoid4597 its a pun on "John B goodenough". The guy who made RAM and did so many other cool things.
B-but WHAT ABOUT PRIETO BATTERY!!?
Their "next-gen" product is a 3-D Lithium-Polymer battery design and last I heard of them was a few years ago when they got funding from Intel.
broke student in school I know... I’m not stupid.
John B Goodenough is a pioneer in new battery technology
Just me who's disappointed Joe didn't talk about half of Ju Li's name being Li, which is also the symbol for Lithium, the element he's working with? Like, please tell me I wasn't the only one thinking it…
Alex00712 Those were my thoughts Exactly!
Tell him to do the thing
I wasn't, and it reminds me that I'm only half as smart as most of the people watching Joe's videos
That one flew right past (passed, whichever’s) me...
passwordyeah
So that would make you twice as smart as me
Joe: "You battery be quiet!"
Me: NICE!
Audience: *crickets*
The first 4 minutes of video in this episode... the reason I get my "random sciencey topics fix" from Joe.
indeed!
Just missing that scene where Joe gets on a plane to Wuhon in 2019 to see what the message was about, and sneezes as he boards the plane...
@@angelarch5352 Maybe in the next video lol.
AHH, Joe liked my comment. Celebrity drive-by!!! Love you dude, you've helped me stay sane this year.
Pedantry warning:
Thermally stable means that it doesn't expand and contract when going through a heating/cooling cycle, not that it doesn't get hot.
This is important because things tend to break when they expand at wildly different rates.
Thermally stable is nice but composite metal structures change size on electrical charge too... it plagues intel right now so bad...
Coefficient of thermal expansion. Before my coma and brain injury, I could list the rates for various materials used in the construction of power plants.
Damn, I miss being able to list esoteric facts and figures in order to win bar bets.
@@briangarrow448 When are you due to come out of that coma?
@@briangarrow448 man, you hang with some pretty nerdy people if you have bar bets on coefficients of thermal expansion.
I approve.
@@curtstan2389 Given what the world has been like for the last few months, I might still be in it.
How is it that 2019 Joe looked 5 years younger than 2020 Joe?
Not wearing pajamas brings out the warm tones in his skin.
2020 happened.
I would like this but it would break the 69
because pandemic?
Stress ages you fast. Look at before term vs after term photos of past presidents.
That was probably the best intro to a video you have ever done, good job dude.
You should make a film. Something along the line of the hitch hiker’s guide.
Hitch hiker's guide to 2020? Lol
nightroxide nice! 👍
@@ChefStache lmao
The Hitchhiker's Guide to Ocean Front Property?
He did make a film if i remember correctly
"Looking forward to being in the same room with a bunch of people breathing the same air without any anxiety" 😂😂😂 relevant
I’m not. I would prefer to go into a future where I’m not ingesting the fluids from inside other people.
Moving to New Zealand?
What is "Anxiety"?
In Melbourne we're in Stage 4 lockdown for another six weeks with the possibility of upgrading to Stage 5 (unable to leave home for ANY reason). Past me would think I'm crazy if I had a time bubble.
Uh... That's the joke... Never understood why so many people are so immensely idiotic that they just quote something from the video with emojis and say "relevant" or "haha, so funny" or whatever. It's seriously so incredibly stupid and cringy.
"what's your surname?"
"It's good enough"
"So you're saying mine isn't?"
sounds chinese
You dare junior!
"yes"
Dude, that intro was freaking hysterical.
Well done sir.
'Is this underwear?' LOL Yes I thought the same thing a couple times!
Shee-it! I'm really not trying on your 'mask'. (Covid, be the least of my worries.)
Wait! It's ISN'T underwear? I need to go change.
Lololol
Maybe it can be used as either! Don't get that covid on yer man bags!
*catches covid from his future self then flies to china to check the whole Wuhan thing out....
I love how Joe goes back to unfinished topics. This why I love this channel🙂
Oh my god, you are getting way better at the intro's. I actually laughed out loud.
That feeling when one of your favorites on TH-cam gives you a shoutout! Thanks Joe, and fantastic video as always! Love the Intro :)
The battery on my phone empties so quick I can't even wri
Ok, this made me chuckle. A+
I feel yo
Same here.
bUT hOw dId hE pReSs sEnD?
@@gormauslander He recharged, then pressed SEND just before the battery drained again.
“Is this underwear?” Just bought masks made by Hanes, and I’ve seen Fruit of the Loom masks on Amazon. Soooo, yeah, in an alternative universe, it would’ve been undies.
And no one bothers to wear undies anymore anyhow.
It does as much to save you from viruses as underwear does.
Mark Petersen the evidence suggests masks do prevent transmission www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/417906/still-confused-about-masks-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent
@@StumpyVandal There is evidence to support literally anything. Open your eyes brother.
Y'know they both cover holes
"What year are you from?"
"August 2020."
As though August was it's own year. What a moood.
Every month of 2020 has been its own year.
2032
I've definitely aged by a decade in the last 10 months.
"But the question is, will it be good enoughWAAAAT TOOOT TOOOT TOOOT TOOOOOOOT" 12:24 couldn't have done it any better
"I didn't feel like putting on shoes"
*3:12** clearly wearing shoes*
I'M SICK OF YOUR LIES JOE SCOTT
never heard of slippers?
@@Wintertidal never heard of jokes?
I think he meant to say pants.
@@goingballisticmotion5455 I'm still not sure if the no-pants wide shot was on purpose, but I laughed out loud when I saw it anyways! :D This was a great episode!
Okay first of all I had socks on, not shoes or slippers.
And second, I was wearing shorts, which it's August in Texas, only a psychopath would wear full length pants. But the fact that everyone sees it like I'm sitting there in my underwear definitely makes it funnier so I'll let it stand.
"and the state of the batteries are"...yup, we all knew that was coming
And I delivered it like a goddam professional.
Joe Scott
Indeed you did. Take your show on the road, call it “learning with wit”.
@@joescott Gotta admit,Joe. You nailed the eye-line on that double Joe!
@@joescott goddamn right!
Every time you said, “Ju Li,” I freaked out
Listen to that julie song in Hindi.
Hello Ju Li!
There is no war in Ba Sing Se
I imagine it being said in dolly partons voice...
This must be the best introduction to a video I’ve ever seen Joe.
Keep an "ion" that one? Joe, you even made an unintentional pun (or was it?)
YOU DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION YOU COWARD
"So, there was this market in China..."
look Up Novonix
@Nebuchadnezzar Quellcris China was never going to be buying anything worth a damn from the U.S anyway. They just steal the tech and produce knockoffs.
Should've started with "There was this lab in China where this woman scientist was messing with bats for youth potions, she vanished right around the time mark of the spread going viral, and then she was struck out of the Wuhan research lab roster, rather poorly..." pop.
aserta Yep!
I'd love to see more of that conversation
That intro had me laughing out loud like a lunatic at 11pm in my home office :D
Brilliant!
Wow that opening had me in stitches. I love your style and content
8:36 I think that's meant to be the chemical formula, Li6 P S5 Cl (that's Cl as in chlorine)
Yeah same here! Maybe he rushed that in at the end, like I do with basically every assignment? Either way another excellent video, especially that intro!
Meybe he knew but he thought that it will be funny to spell it that way
I was wondering if any else noticed
Ju Li:
"There are no dendrites at MIT. We are safe here"
Ju L,i Ju Li, Ju Liiiiiiii I'm begging of you please don't take my man
Ka Ren:
I want to speak to your head of technology
A couple of the new batteries he mentioned turned out to be faked for $$$
@@shaharbarnett Okay.....I laughed. I really did.
@@shaharbarnett Man, you cracked me up!! Still laughing!
Great skit in the beginning, Joe. I see you've been studying the Bob Newhart style of phone comedy. He always excelled at that and so are you.
That was a great intro skit Joe! Although I think I have been had. You lured me in with puns and fantasy then hit me with a solid wall of science.
The intro made me remember how shitty we thoughty 2019 was, little did we know...
One day in the future we will all look back at '20 with fond nostalgia. Enjoy the fun times l say.
@@SofaKingShit your positivity gives me hope 💛
It can always get worse. I have never found that to be a comforting thought.
2020 is cool its just your perception thats shitty (except you exploded in beirut or actually died from corona of course. then though luck)
@@morganrobinson8042 imagine you bitchin' about corona, and suddenly tons of explosives go off next to you. oh wait that happened to a bunch of people recently. hope ur happy now with just the corona problem ;)
8:00 Yong-Gun Lee? Coolest name ever.
in a perfect universe, his name would be Yong-Gun Pals 🐎🐎
How about
Sum yung guy?
The opening intro was great, thanks Joe!
That was probably the best intro you've ever made, Joe. So much fun to watch. Well, fun in a laughing-thru-tears kind of way. We need that. Thank you!
17:18
Kilowatt Hour, KWh, not Kilowatt, KW. One is a measure of energy, the other is power.
The unit of power is written as kWh not KWh according to the SI system.
Peter Deacon
Thats fine but kilowatts per liter is a unit of power per liter. Pretty sure joe is meaning to say kilowatt hours per liter.
@@dansacco1964 Wh/liter is such a weird unit to come up with. Maybe the density is really high and the Wh/kg is very unimpressive...
Also, he added 3 orders of magnitude... 900 Wh/l, not 900 kWh/l... that later one is like solid hydrogen or something...
@@zapfanzapfan how many liters is a kg is what I'm wondering,I like wh/kg and wish they would just stick to that
Am I the only one who finds it oddly comforting that Future Joe was wearing a BUCEE’S T-shirt?
Yeah that means they are still not out of business 😂😂
dude I almost stopped watching the vid.....
then I saw the buccees shirt
“If it hurts beavers, we’re against it.”
🤠
Bucee’s salt water taffy - red licorice, butter popcorn. So amazing. The only reason I dare to enter.
Tens of years from now, its remains will fascinate cultural anthropologists for weeks.
"Yong Gun Lee" is the most old-western name ever to come out of the far-east.
I noticed that too. Had to replay a few times to make sure that it said what it said.
At least he didn’t promise that it would be just around the corner like everyone else for the last 10 years
It IS just around the corner,
thing is ............... that corner is a very very long way away...............
SteeVeeDee in a galaxy far far away
@@steeveedee8478 Probably right behind fusion power haha
Solid state is kind of like nuclear fusion: World changing technology that's been right around the corner for decades.
Hey but we are getting closer and closer. I mean look at the resent discoveries in plasma "chirping". We now know why plasma is so unneficent to contain
@@afox5319 ITER due to come online in 2025 that will be the best test reactor to date. Still have high hopes myself
Yeah, but we've been working on fusion for what, 60 years? Solid state batteries have only been a thing for a relatively small number of years. They'll probably be ready sooner than fusion, though. Even after fusion technically produces power, it will be somewhere between decades and never when it's commercially viable, meaning economically competitive with conventional renewables plus storage.
Add Fuel cell vehicles to that list!
@@incognitotorpedo42 fusion is just harder to work on in experimental wise. Battery technology is safer and far easier to set-up a laboratory for it. The easy access to work on it makes it so the technology will happen in some form .
4:25 : When even your own laugh track thinks your joke wasn't funny.
That's because the joke wasn't funny.
@@joescott Wait, you're telling me I chuckled at a dad joke?
Brb, I need an MRI scan, CAT scan, Ultrasound scan. I need them all. This isn't how it's supposed to be! I'm not a dad yet (afaik)!
Would love yet another follow up! Let it become a yearly thing !
The intro had me on edge!!! Hahahaha dude, I love the mini acting skit and the puns. Had me cracking up
"ALMONDS DON'T HAVE TEETS" I'M SCREAMING
No, but they have nuts.
What ever happened to those miracle graphene batteries everyone was talking about a few years ago?
Same things that happened with carbon nanotubes
Also those aren't really batteries, just super capacitors, in practice this makes no difference, but by definition it isn't a battery
They are in development. It takes seven to ten years to get a battery from lab to market, and about twenty years for a new materials to mature into products.
Rafnagud Odin
You can get them now.
Fire isn’t something you’re concerned about, right?
@@boggisthecat not sure if these are the same, adding graphene does seem to reduce internal resistance a lot, you can get small RC batteries that can put out like 700 amps now. There's other companies that use them to accept really high charge rates (power bank).
Excellent work on the visual effects for the temporal spacial bubble. Really captured it.
Joe, I got to say I really enjoyed the bubble and this video edit. Great Job and keep it up sir.
Advantage Solid State - "Liquid Electrolyte" is EXPLOSIVE.
Me: Oh a sodium battery, I know what sodium is.
Joe: starts speaking a bunch of gibberish
Me: o.O
Let me try to simplify:
Special glass
Yeah. He does that a lot. It's ok.
Ik, and special glass is the perfect replacement for that.
I'm no chemist but what you're saying is a salt in battery?
@@urbanshadow777 yes, that's what I got from it, salt in a battery.
You're the only TH-camr whose vlog-style documentaries are bearable. In fact they are enormously entertaining and generally well researched. Thank you for your work!
Dude! The acting and writing on that intro - Epic! And friggin' hilarious 😂👏👍👍👍
For insight into your question "will lithium ion batteries keep improving faster than solid state can be brought online", check out gallium arsenide vs silicon in the 80’s electronic industry. Every couple of years you would hear that silicon tech was going to hit an impenetrable wall and the only way to make electronics any faster would be to switch to gallium arsenide. Then every few years smart people would find ways under, over and around those walls. Over 3 decades later, gallium arsenide is still waiting for its day to shine
All of those advances in silicon could be achieved without creating a brand new fab. GaAs would require a completely new fab so $1B+. Also, GaAs didn't scale well to dinner plate sized wafers so you couldn't recover the cost of that fab as quickly.
The Venus mission will usher in this tech
@@TimothyParker1 All true, but silicon faced a many problems as GA, possibly more. I think the main difference was that SI had a proven record of making big $ so it was easy to attract big investments in new fabs and R&D, so its problems got solved. If GA had as much investment as SI, I think that there is a good chance that its problems would have been solved and it would have outperformed. Sometimes the first gets such a big head start that the better is never able to catch up. I think it is going to be the same thing with battery tech for a lot longer than most people think
you mean that hydrogen has a chance to beat lithium? because Elon makes fun of it
@@electronresonator8882 No you have it backwards. Even if all hydrogen's other problems were solved, lithium has economy of scale and first mover advantages that are greater than anything hydrogen has to offer
Y'know something like 1/3rd the cost of a model 3 is the battery so cutting that price by a percentage would be pretty spicy
@@kidmosey Or cut the price down so they can get more demand
@@kidmosey Or cut the price by a portion of the savings to both make more sales and more profit. I'm sure there's an analyst out there somewhere capable of analyzing the supply demand curve and figured out the best price
@@kidmosey You do realize that alongside the performance increases they would also theoretically be cheaper to manufacture. So you can still reduce the price, make more profit, and still sell more cars. At least for me having the base model have 30% more range still wouldn't increase my chance of purchase because I still don't have 37k lying around. If people flat out can't afford it that would otherwise purchase it if it was cheaper tesla can only gain
@@kidmosey wtf!!!!!!, or they could make cheaper cars
Joe-This was my first time viewing your channel. You knocked it out of the park! I loved the intro. I had my wife watch it with me and she laughed out loud a few times. I have been watching a lot of battery video’s lately and I found this one to be right in the sweet spot of technical data and watch ability. I subscribed after just one video and I can’t wait to see more. Great job!!
9:00 that was the best description of dendrites I've ever heard. That's why you shouldn't charge to over 85% or let did go too low.
Joe Scott: Speculation Time
Me: Never in my life have I wanted something so much and not realize until I received it!
This one in the beginning is one of the best time travel sketches I've seen! It's... It's just poignant, really
Joe that intro was excellent, better yet... Priceless! 😉
Do them every once in awhile dude! Made my day! 😂👍
Joe this is my favorite cold open that you've done yet. Just marvelous!
10:24 You can trust him cause he has two syllables in his name AND one of them is the abbreviation of the element Lithium! BOOM he's the ONE!
I was first going to just comment on how Awesome the opening is, but I had to revisit my post, And say, Joe this video is a darned GEM! we really enjoyed it, and learnt things aswell, which is something we have come to expect from Monday videos :) Thank you Joe, and team. P.S. We also enjoy your thoughts and opinions on TMI. Keep up the Great work!
The concept of the opening is really funny. I saw it first with Julie Nolke!
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Hey Joe, I love your skits and this one is probably the best I've ever seen. Either this one or the British vs American English skit. Love them both.
You are so good at this. You make me feel like i could just walk up to you at a coffee shop, sit down and start talking to u like we are old friends. Seriously! And ill bet it happens to you and your like.... im trying to get some work done... you truly have a gift.
Lithium ion battery can get “detached” from ur phone while charging (aka unscheduled disassembly 🤪)
Duran huh? Physically detached? Like the device is no longer connected to the battery? How does that happen? I’ve never heard of that.
he probably meant exploding.
I thought you were just going to repeat Julie Nolke's skit in your intro, but you put your own spin on it. Nice job!
I remember my 2019 self listening to your episode on solid state batteries.
Wow, you put a lot of effort in these videos, well done!
I love Buc-ee’s shirts, wish they had an online store.
Wait
Bro Buc-ees is the best
7:25 Yes butter sandwiches are a thing, this is what your mother invents when your 8 year old self just wants jelly between two slices of bread because MMMM sweet sugar. You tell her you only want jelly on your sandwich and no peanut butter. Your mother rather than going, "Oh little child, without the peanut butter the sandwich would fall apart." she finds a substitute called butter. She puts the butter and jelly sandwich in your brown bag and sends it off to school with you. At lunch time you discover much to your chagrin that you have a butter and jelly sandwich. Being 8 years old don't think to say. "Go back to peanut butter." Or "Why did you put butter on the bread?" You just lump it until she forgets you asked for that. And that's how you get a butter sandwich.
12:42 "it was indecent..." Joe youve been cracking me up this whole effing video!! I spit out my cereal I was laughing so hard!
That intro was hilarious. I woke up my wife with my laughing 😂
Whenever someone mentions John B. Goodenough I sing Chuck Berry's "Johhny B Good" to myself.
How about Cyndi lauper "Good Enough"? 😂
8:10 pretty sure it's 900Wh/L not 900 KW/L which would be a weird measurement.
Same issue at 9:40 when you talk about Tesla 2170 cells at 680 KW/L.
Tesla's current batteries are between 60 to 100 KW/L so....
@@wolfvale7863 incorrect. It's more like 1KW/L.
The intro rocks! Congrats from Bulgaria!
Amazing intro. 😂👏👏
The bonus was past Joe picking up the mask, and asking if it's underwear. 😂😂😥
“the future is gluten people!”.. LMBO 😆
Gluten, people
Commas are important
@@gormauslander I choose to go with actual people made of gluten
@@jr2904 I, for one, welcome our new gluten overlords.
@Chad Dysvick after that joke, I think they'll have a roll for me but I doughnut know about you.
12:20 - That wild John B Goodenough reference you were all waiting for... Wait? Only I sat through 12 minutes of Joe's video wondering when he'd get to good ol' Dr. Goodenough?
And you loved every minute of it.
@@joescott I have to admit. I was wondering "is Joe seriously going to snub our boy John?"
It was a good one.
Thanks Joe, I needed that early morning laugh!
LOL That open was actually done quite well. Funny & with special FX. Thumbs up.
Funniest video you did in a while Joe! Really great and well done!
So, how Is your new type of battery, John?
-GoOdEnOuGh
pew pew pewwwwww! /sunglasses/
Another great video. I really hope Mr. Goodenough comes through on the sodium based solid state batteries.
Absolutely loved the sketch at the beginning. It was hilarious :D
Battery day:
1. Million mile battery means no dendrites.
2, Sandy Munro took a Model Y apart and complained about the wiring when I thought it was supposed to have network technology, which made me think he had been given an older model car with old model batteries to pull apart which could mean that new Teslas already have new battery tech and have software to mimic old batteries until Battery Day when they are magically upgraded.
I really hope they already have crazh batteries
Imagine accidentally bringing the virus to the past because you forgot your mask there.
Oh boy
infecting the past by forgetting your mask is tight!
Robert idonotsharemyfullname
And it’s super easy, barely an inconvenience
@@hiiamelecktro4985 Right. as how to exactly one could do that, i need you to get all the way off my back on that.
Robert idonotsharemyfullname
Alright, let me get off of that thing
Hi Joe, always LOVE your content . Please make a video on "How the understanding of Spheres changed the world"
Joe, best intro ever! That one was great, thank you!
Someone’s been watching some Julie Noakes.
Nolke*
Yes! Hers was better though. I can’t remember the exact name, but the juice cleanse one was really funny also.
speculation time is a meme gifted from heaven itself , USE IT WELL CHILDREN
No it isn't.
I am really hype about the Sir goodenough reseach, from the images I've seen, it look like an led design, really cool
I love this intro. I actually stopped what I was doing to watch it, and I almost always have youtube on in the background.
The dad jokes in this video shows me that I'm not yet ready to be a dad...
But the intro was still a bit funny.
If you're not wanting them, can I have your ration of dad jokes?
I'm not a dad either, but I'm here almost exclusively because Joe's a punny guy.
Simply punderful. 🤠👍🏽
No one is ever ready brother...but now I find my self here with 4 of them hahaha.
I guess you didn't butter up them up enough. I laughed.
That Intro!! LoL! Great video. Thanks for the upload
Loved that Video Joe, excellent the skit at the beginning was full of awesomeness. Reducing the weight and cost factor would still be good, get more range for less.