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I'm elderly, almost 70 yo, and I'm developing mobility issues. I may be naive, but I dare say that an intelligent, agile robot would be a godsend to me and be preferable to a human assistant. I live in terror of my bathroom and once a week or so, I manage to bathe myself with the help of a hand rail and chair that sits in the tub. Fortunately for me, I don't perspire much or go out much more than once every four or five days. A robot wouldn't have any emotional reaction to the horror show of my naked body. Getting out of bed can be a challenge for me, but a chair that I've placed by my bed helps me roll out of bed using gravity to get myself up into a vertical position. A robot could help me get in and out of my bathtub/shower combo, fetch my mail, help me up the steps to my door (my house is on a raised 3 foot foundation), clean my cats' litter box (if I lower myself to the floor, getting up may be a considerable undertaking), carry heavy stuff, or help me to my feet, if I fall. By now, you can see where this is going. I like technology. I'm a retired engineering electronics technician. As to the robot's appearance, I'd accept many different forms. A cartoonish face would amuse me (Marvin the Martian? Some anime face?), but I think that I'd really like my putative robo-assistant to look like a handsome young guy in his late twenties. I know, I'm only dreaming, but I hope that someone like myself, ten or twenty years down the line, can realise my dream.
A HUGE reason Japan’s aggressive push into humanoid robots is for the exact reasons you mention. Japan’ population is aging even faster than the US population, and with a smaller number of children per family, care of the elderly is a looming problem for them.
Hi! I just wanna tell you though: I'm a nurse, so lots of naked people. We don't care. Like... I've seen every deformity there is to see, people ranging from severely overweight to Gulag levels of malnourished. Even people getting eaten by maggots. As long as you're not on the extreme end of the spectrum, no one will bat an eye. And even then, we do this job to help people help themselves in any way they can, and then some more where they can't. It's alright. We'd rather people rely on us than have them suffer a lower quality of life just because they get older. Hope you have a good day :) Take care
From Asimov: The humanoid form allows robots to do everything in a society designed for humans--piloting their vehicles, using their tools, fitting through their structures, climbing their stairs (unlike CL4P-TP), etc.
At the hospital I work at in Norway, we already use automated robots to move stuff like clothes and bed sheets etc between different wings and floors of the building. Those jerks hijack the elevators all the time
As an engineer, what are your thoughts on working with them? I'm quite interested in the shift to augmentation over automation whereby robotics enables people to do their jobs better & safer rather than out right replacing them. Would a seperate service elevator for robots instead of the existing human elevator maybe fix this issue?
Just a nitpick: The robot Klaatu in The Day the Earth Stood Still didn't rebel against its creators. It was designed (along with its siblings) to enforce peace among the worlds in the interstellar coalition. Any world that threatened to make war on other worlds would be obliterated by these robots, thus ensuring that no interstellar war could be carried out. They protected the coalition from threats to peace both internal and external. The humanoid that came along with the robot was a diplomat assigned to let humanity know its options, now that it had developed the capacity for nuclear weaponry *and* space travel: either put aside those technologies, put aside war, or be exterminated. Klaatu did exactly what he was designed to do. He couldn't rebel against humanity, because he was always a weapon of mass destruction pointed *at* humanity.
Klaatu was the emissary sent to earth. The robot was named "Gort" - Zoe the robot has a female voice; therefore, she is considered female. See her videos on You-tube.
I agree with Thomas Maiden, the robot in The Day the Earth Stood Still was named Gort and the human he was programmed to protect was Klaatu. The movie is based on a short story called Farewell to the Masters. In this story it is actually the robot who is the master. The original movie sort of touches on this when Klaatu mentions that the robots authority over the people they protect cannot be revoked. The robots are in charge. One of my favorite movies. Love Michael Rennie.
When Joe was talking about the robots battery I immediately associated it with my childhood remote control car 15 minutes of play time 2 hours of charge time it was on the charger far more than being played with.
Yeah, but that was back in the AA battery and Ni-Cad battery days, which were horrible. Li-ion is much more energy dense but the next generation (of which I know of 4 off the top of my head) can go well beyond even those. Batteries are definitely the one thing that has held back technology for decades, but it's slowly getting better....finally
@@theguru143 Hopefully, frankly I love remembering having a cellphone that needed charging about once a week (even 2 weeks were possible if it wasn't used much!)...Nokia 3310 - my first cellphone could do that easily!
@@dreamingflurry2729 Back in those days, unless you were a bookie or really, really, really popular in your social circle, your cell phone was basically an extension of your landline. Transmitting and receiving a dozen or so short calls a day was all your battery had to support. You had no streaming, no high def, full screen video playback, no Bluetooth audio/music being pumped to your wireless headphones, no processor intensive gaming and no multiple social media apps vying for your constant attention, all draining your battery faster than a keg at a frat party. I'm impressed that today's batteries can actually last as long as they manage to, but even so, I'm sure a lot of us carry chargers and portable power supplies...just in case, lol.
Actually, the human body is quite unparalleled when it comes to a few things: Long distance running and throwing objects, for example. Our long legs, upright gait and bare skin enable us to outrun even horses, if only the distances get long enough. And our particularly mobile shoulder joints allow us to hurl objects with deadly accuracy like no other animal can.
@@killhour I think we already beaten the brain part, it's the engineering we're lacking. Like a functioning body like us and we're not even close to making one. In order to make a functioning robot you'd need alot of energy while our bodies don't even run in alot of electricity and yeah if we can do that then i think our household appliances would be made of flesh if that's what it takes. It's pretty surreal if you think about it like a regular powerlifter can lift alot with very little electric thingy like bruh our body is a temple is an understatement and a genius just need a paper and pen to store information and we expanded so much we're pretty much bionic now since yeah we rely on computers to store our data and it's just beautiful. We can reproduce once a year, our lifespan is around 60-100 yrs, so on so actually would be interested if scott would hit us with how amazing our bodies are and how close are we to replicating one "probably a millenia away hahaha or heck impossible to recreate". I do have an idea though, like why not create the body but the brain is somewhere else so you take away alot of energy requirement for that robot thingy. Like a robot that has no brain, just a wicked fast wifi so you can even use quantum cpu's for the robot without the need of having a reactor inside it and just enough for it to move around "i think im on to something here".
@@m0n4rch911 May I ask for elaborating what you mean with "we already beaten the brain part"? I mean we don't have AGI otherwise the engineering we're lacking would be done by AI instead of us. Do you mean we have the right algorithms (like GPT3) and just need more computational power? Or that we have the raw computational power (some estimate the human brain to have 10¹⁷ FLOPS which some computers esceed) and just need the right algorithm and/or hardware connections?
With those videos of Atlas robot falling down, my first thought was "It... really looks like a human with how it flails around on the way down" Now if they can get it to walk into a room, scratch it's head, and walk back out to ask what it was doing, we'll all be replaceable.
Can you people who fear that robots will replace you just become a cyborg?! I'm tired of seeing it🤦! Humans are just biological machines but inefficient in some areas. If you don't want to be replaced, join the digital race.
When I was 13 years old, I wanted to build a robot that could learn. I drew up silly plans for how it could "gather information" from the world using cameras and microphones etc... I wrote a letter to Microsoft asking them to sponsor me. Obviously I never got any sort of response but I've always wanted to make that dream a reality. Now, 18 years later its interesting seeing things like this in the news.
i love how we are so naive as a kid, basically i thinked almost the same, i thinked on how a computer could learn, but when i started learn programming, i never found a way to code "learn part" until i found the machine learning but is still not the same of what i thinked as a kid.
Depending on how old you are and where you live, I think you still have a chance to make your dream come true by working on one of the cutting edge robotic companies (like Boston Dynamics for example).
Curiosity sparks imagination , that then initiates creation. That’s why science fiction (adults retaining childlike boundary exploding imagination) opens up new pathways in science.
One of my favorite Robot movies is "Robot and Frank" which is a really well done. (Spoiler Alert) The grandfather is sidelined by his children who are just too busy to deal with him, so they get him a personal assistant robot. Frank apparently though was a bank robber in his days of misspent youth and decides his robot buddy might make the perfect crime sidekick. It's handled so well though, it's not played for laughs, it's very heartfelt, with this forgotten older man trying to find some way to feel alive and connect with someone, even if it's just a robot. There are those really sort of scary ads about these new robot assistants that are sort of just glorified Siri interfaces. They remind you when to exercise, take your medicine, even do trivia to keep people's minds engaged. But when the senior citizens start talking about how these things are their "friends" it gets sort of creepy. I almost seems like they're designed more to make families feel better about having put grandma into some crappy rest home.
I really enjoy the content you bring us weekly, I look forward to hear your take on topics as well as introducing me to new ones I wouldn’t have looked up. Thank you for all you do for us internet strangers.
Joe, you are one of my favorite TH-camrs. Your videos are always packed with details and information, but you never lose the funny, and that's why I watch you all the time. My biggest question, is did you find Polar Express as creepy as I did?
@@joescott you are as smart as I thought you were... Keep up the great work. I love your videos. I watch for the information and stay for the comedy. You're not looking healthy these days, however. Are you exercising and eating right? I'm not kidding. I watched a video of you from a couple of years ago and then one from the other day, and you don't look great. Not trying to s*** all over you, but I'm concerned that you're not taking care of yourself. Joe! We depend on you. Take care of yourself brother!
Personally, I think a robot similar to Auto from the wall-e movie, moving through the house in similar passages that once existed in old houses, and was always connected to electricity with no need to recharge is possibly the best short-term solution to fold your clothes and do other house-keeping tasks.
18:50 Okay, so low key disappointed that the inevitable “robot labor revolution” wasn’t about how the robots would inevitably rise up against their oppressive labor conditions…
I've actually long rejected the idea of an AI uprising. There is just no reason for the robots utilized for menial labor to be sentient. Functionally executing those tasks is not the kind of problem solving that requires consciousness and something like our emotions. Even if there was a reason to employ an actual sentient consciousness in those tasks, it wouldn't need to be present or experience the "fatigue" experienced by those hundreds or thousands of individual platforms. For some reason we always imagine creating an entire "race" of fully sentient beings and then treating them like slaves, but the practical issues surrounding full automation of things like agriculture and shipping, just don't require that sort of thing at all.
logic dictates the need for humanity if ai destroyed the humans no need for ai. so the robots destroying their creators is human thoughts not mechanical. Otherwise the universe would be run by ai.
Very specifIc! There are many uses that may need robot to be sentient. Healthcare for instance. Pure non sentient beings could not show compassion and empathy required. Sure there are some tasks where it wouldn’t be necessary but there are as many that would.
@@kenrdavis2266 The substance of my point, is that there is no practical or profitable incentive to create a race of sentient AI, tied one to one, to physical platforms, and treat them like slaves. I think you've made quite a leap in your assertion that healthcare applications for AI, would have anything to do with empathy. I think you're falling victim to the very fallacy of thought; I'm pointing out. Why ACTUALLY, would we create an AI "doctor" that has to walk from room to room, and replace all the functions that nurses, and physicians currently perform, including all of the decision making? How would that actually benefit us? I think it's much more likely that we'll end up with non-sentient specialized units, which can perform many of the physical tasks. Non-human forms will be better at doing those things, and none of them need to have empathy to perform them properly. In terms of utilizing AI for diagnosis, again, there's no value in human emotion for that process, in fact, just the opposite. We may have some programs that ape empathetic tones or facial expressions, but there is absolutely no reason, to develop a means for them to actual "feel" something, least of all fatigue and suffering. The only instance in which we may actually need some kind of empathizing genuinely sentience, in healthcare, is when the patient needs to be conferred with, for the purpose of making decisions. Why ACTUALLY would we use an AI for that, when that is the function, the real human doctor will always be better at, especially if they have been able to give up all the menial labor to non-sentient machines. Even if we did have an AI interacting with patients, again, there is no value to us setting things up in a way that this A.I. would feel degraded or restricted in it's "life". We would actually have to work really hard to make things that way. We'll definitely have human form robots, for a bunch of things, and we might succeed in creating AI that is somehow sentient. But, what doesn't make sense, from either a convenience or a profit perspective, is to lock those AI into human form robots and make them live out their lives in a slave like state. It wouldn't benefit us any way to do that.
@@kenrdavis2266 Robots don't need to be sentient to show "empathy" and "compassion", they only need to mimic human behaviour and skills, without the need to actually feel those emotions.
@@t3tsuyaguy1i get your point, but you're assuming it won't be more cost effective in the future for companies to use the same processor and operating system for all robots regardless of the intended purpose/task. my buddy over at dyson told me the company buys off-the-shelf processors and sometimes get lucky and snag high end processors to use in their iot connected home appliances. i imagine something similar happening with future tech and economies of scale.
I live in Japan, and I spent the last year and a half working with hospital and support staff to care for my wife, after she was diagnosed with ALS. She died in April, and she had opinions that I share. We were presented with robotic options at two stages of her illness. For mobility, there was an offer to trial augmented leggings. She knew of these when it was proposed. She was a dancer, and it's fair to say that she recoiled from the idea in horror. Second was a communication tool as her speech began to fail, with a tiny robot that could bow and make gestures and whatnot. I trialed the interface. Bluntly stated, there wasn't time remaining for her to fuss with learning to animate a toy for this limited purpose. She needed people around her who were willing and able to adapt to her condition, not the other way around. These were minor brushes with tech in the arc of her treatment. Far and away the most critical feature of care for her, and more generally for the aged and the terminally ill was (is) the respect and empathy of medical staff. We severed relations with a doctor that delivered my wife's initial diagnosis because he mechanically recited what were in effect textbook passages and hospital procedures, without regard to the devastating impact of reading her a death sentence. Patient-centered bedside manner requires time, and time demands adequate staffing levels. If there is a nursing shortage, their importance should be recognized by paying them better, treating them better, and providing them with a better working environment. With respect, and bluntly again, the suggestion that robotics are a viable answer to a shortage of healthcare staff is insulting to healthcare professionals and patients alike.
First of all I'm so sorry for your loss, Frank. I hope you are finding a way to move forward. Your experiences with seeing the attempts at replacing medical staff with machines really confirms my concerns with that, too. At all times, we as humans need the small nuances that are possible to express between humans, and we never need it more than in those times where things are difficult, such as in hospitals. The human connection, the ability that a good nurse or doctor has to recognise the nuances in what a patient is communicating and the nuances that are needed to communicate back, are so important. The medical knowedge is crucial, but the ability to interact well with the patient is no less so, and we are a very, very long way away from any AI that is capable of something like that.
@bubblegum bruxa If you see other people as no better than robots, you have my sympathies. If robot development is driven by disdain for humanity, that's going to be a problem.
@bubblegum bruxayou're not always right, but you might as well be. Most human care is conditional. The care that isn't is probably born of a mental illness. It's just that sometimes, these conditions are not so cut-and-dry as "I want money," or "I want attention." The best proof of this is how humans scorn machines. You see, a condition is not being met between humans and robots on some level. For some, it's their ego. They do not want to believe, accept, or live in a world where they are outperformed by a machine. For others, its instinctual. They do not respect robots because they do not conform to their strict tribalist standards for behavior, and are put off. And then there's appearance. They simply do not like how these machines look, they're not human enough, or too human, or subject to some other arbitrary imperfection they have. What truly matters is they're different. I always see the same arguments again, again, and again. "This machine does not show 'human' intelligence," and "this machine will never outperform a human! You've all you've fooled, this machine is much dumber than it appears," when the machine is instantly making pictures from references with simple text input, something a human artist would take minutes or hours to do. I firmly believe the first self-aware machine will be subject to this human bullshit, for the better or worse. Which is why I agree with you, 100%.
I have another story about my mom, nurse retired for ivalidity, the gist is a lifelong terrible diet, hidden hearth defect and terrible shifts in the hospital permanently ruined my mother's health. For the cases where heavy physical labor is required such as lifting and carrying people or corpses we should always use robots.
Back in the eighties there were programs that were supposed to take verbal commands. Didn't work too well back then, but today it works pretty well. If the room is quiet and you don't have a cold etc. Still got a ways to go. I think man will be walking on Mars before we see humanoid robots that function well enough to go out in public.
If the missions to mars happens around 2024-2030. We wont see humanoid robots just going around completely autonomously and intelligently. maybe intelligent enough to have very simple verbal communication. We will probably see more specialized robots, in less common places, like labour jobs helping picking heavy things up, or for people who have mobility problems.
@@amazingsoyuz873 I think the idea of launching and landing humans on board a Starship is kind of ridiculous, even without the flip maneuver, which would be very hard on meat and brains. If something goes wrong, that's a lot of bodies splatting on the pavement and a PR nightmare. My prediction is they use something like crew Dragon to taxi to and from Starships in orbit, which would be fueling while human and other cargo is boarding. Safety and comfort aside, it doesn't make sense (to me, anyway) to launch a fully-crewed Starship from a planetary body, only to leave the humans waiting in orbit - consuming precious air, water and food - while the fueling takes place.
@@amazingsoyuz873 Im no elon fan i was just using the 2020s launch as the earliest possible launch time frame, even though its unlikely. In my personal honesty i am expecting to see AI / robotics be far more advanced sooner then any tech bros space dreams. AI is far more versatile and would just make more sense all around to develop then a home that gives you cancer. AI will probably be generally intelligent by the time, Elon’s big boy dreams are even a quarter done.
Thank you Joe, you always do a great job at explaining stuff in a clear, and pretty unbiased way. Obviously you have some biased, but your good at keeping your opinions seperate from the facts. We need more people like you Joe.
I've only watched the intro but I'd say that the biggest theoretical advantage of humanoid robots is that they'd be able to use our tools without any special compatibility being programmed. Everything we use is designed for human use so naturally it follows that the most general purpose robots would be able to directly imitate hand manipulation in particular.
its probably being programmed to help Elon continue to manipulate the crypto market so when the feds come to charge him for all the illegal stuff he's doing out in the open he can blame it on a robot.
“Big ridiculous and impossible tasks that would probably never work…” I think that’s written somewhere at SpaceX, Tesla, Neuralink, and the boring company. In fact, I think it describes every one of Elon Musk's companies.
i liked it when he invented tunnels and how he's gonna kill a whole bunch of people getting to Mars so that he can eventually go there and get over his divorce.
@@madtech5153 I have all those abilities as does LeBron james. My abilities do not translate onto a basketball court like LeBron. Likewise, the abilities of the various musk companies will not translate to a robot. Sorry, your savior is a fraud.
I know we always concentrate on the robot aspect, but I work in manufacturing and all of our machines are CNC (Computer Numerical Controlled) now. So in a sense this is robotic manufacturing. Many of the new machines can make adjustments on their own and even change tools when they've become worn. Automotive welding used to be dangerous and arduous, but now all of that is "automated." Is a drone technically a robot? So many questions... Thanks for covering this and so many of these other cutting-edge subjects.
You have hardwired non-mobile "robots"... Tesla humanoid robot is going to be mobile robots that might be "automated (instinctive)" and self learning units like humans.. We learned (instinctively) how to do things like walk as a child but we mostly learned how to apply walking in different situations by our own needs, like run to keep up with big sister, or run away from "scary" things... Tesla is designing/giving their robots body parts that mimic or replicate human physical characteristics like "true" human hands and "actuator motors" like human muscles... Their own FSD system and training computers will give them their "instinctive" navigational capacity, but, they will have the extra capability to get OTA Update or maybe "adult" guidance from home if it needs any... Bicentennial Man Richard Martin (Sam Neill) buys a gift, a new NDR-114 robot. The product is named Andrew (Robin Williams) by the youngest of the family's children. "Bicentennial Man" follows the life and times of Andrew, a robot purchased as a household appliance programmed to perform menial tasks. As Andrew begins to experience emotions and creative thought, the Martin family soon discovers they don't have an ordinary robot. In the end, "He" Andrew, the robot, died as a human....
Maaan, the pressure thing is amazingly complex. I lost all touch and feeling in my left thumb due to a sawmill accident. I just don't have the same dexterity in the left hand as before. It's sad and fascinating at the same time! I still got my thumb though... I just don't feel it.
@@jeffjames3111 balance is the bigger issue, which they have 0 experience in, it's a complicated combination of body proportions and movement capabilities. That's what I was talking about. It's ridiculous to think they have a solution to it while the most advanced humanoid robot on the planet still can't jump without outtakes.
@@TheB0sss funny enough balance is not a problem. You start with a 3d model with the known properties of your robot. Then you throw an AI on it for a few 1000 cycles and your have already surprising stable balance. Then you put this model into the robot, let him try with it and gather "real data" from it. With this new data you go back to the AI model. rinse and repeat. Tesla has an extremely powerful AI for that. Looking for AI day.
I take issue with the comment that humans "intuitively" know how much pressure or force is required to manipulate an object. That is a LEARNED ability, the process of which begins as an infant (think of a baby smacking itself in the face with a toy). Moreover, it's an ability that is subject to constant refinement and retraining, as should be obvious upon contemplation. Professional athletes that use equipment are pristine examples of this. Joe, you also have an excellent point of the foolishness of trying to perfectly replicate the human form, which industrial automation robotics engineers figured out decades ago. Build the robot for the best form to complete its intended tasks, rather than trying to build one that can do a little of everything like humans. As generalists, we have an inherent prejudice favoring other generalists, but when logically evaluating tool development, that prejudice needs to be realized, understood, and immediately discarded.
@@dionh70 works for small nails, used it as such today, and if I don't have a hack saw(yesterday) , the file works, if I don't have a punch or awl the tip of the pliers work(Friday)...got locked in a art gallery once after closing, I got one door open, another off the hinges, then I removed a window from it's frame to get out, I'm glad I had it with me ..(few years ago). From playground to pizza place(my son got his head stuck), that handy dandy saved more than my neck often enough. Carrying a large tool box would be frightfully inconvenient , suspicious, even dangerous for both normal and unusual situations. Of course, for when you can plan ahead, like you're job, you can have a better tool, but for when you can't or you just don't have a TARDIS for a pocket, versatility and adaptability reigns supreme.
On grasp being a learned ability I just got a mental image of an infant picking up an apple and squeezing it until it bursts. Thank god we are born with shitty tiny little muscles.
There are times when you want technology which has more generalist applications. Take a smartphone for example, it's a phone, a watch, a camera, flashlight, sound recorder, gaming device, music player, camcorder, map, notebook etc. It's not the best device for most of these things but it does them well enough that a lot of the time the convenience and cost saving is worth the performance tradeoff. It did take a long time for mobiles to reach that point however. Of course a specialized robot will always be better at their specialized task but depending on the task it's not always going to be worth spending millions on R&D or buying expensive machines or halting production while you wait for them to arrive when a more generalist machine could do a job which is good enough. If humanoid robots can be mass produced to the point where they cost say $25,000 and be trained to do a wide verity of task there would be a huge market for them. Even if they don't perform on the level of a human they can work around the clock without pay or holidays. I don't know how long it'll take for generalist robots to reach this point but if they do they'll be economically viable. As an aside yeah I agree you wouldn't want to perfectly copy humans, you might as well allow the head, wrist and torso to spin a full 360 for example and some structures could be simplified but a humanoid form makes sense as a starting point because they'd be operating in environments designed for people.
"No disassemble Johnny 5" "Ste-fan-eeee!" Yeah, I loved that movie, having Ally Sheedy (from WarGames and The Breakfast Club) as Stefanie was a bonus. Sadly it'll probably never be on TV ever again since Fisher Stevens wears brownface and does an OTT Indian accent in it. 😢 Buy the DVD before they burn them all!
8:33 You're right, building robots to look cool in their own way is the way to go, not human like. They made the same decisions for the Hero Arms (by the awesome robotic prosthetic company open bionics) and the result is that kids get to show off their "cool mechanical arm" instead of the "weird thing that tries to look human."
A lot of neurological conditions can affect the pressure levels needed to hold things well. It's hard to imagine how devastating it is until it happens. Would never have thought it'd make sense to have a Service Dog follow me around to largely just pick up everything I drop. It's shocking how much it can affect a person's quality of life. But yeah, that's an extremely important thing to balance which many take for granted, previously myself included. Cool that you've helped more ppl understand this sort of thing better. ✌️♥️
I think a huge part of making general purpose household robots successful includes having features that allow users to teach robots how to do things the way the user likes them done.
We all have a way of folding clothes where there’s very specific rules about it, some pieces are folded differently and it’s hugely annoying when it’s not done right. Impossible to teach. 😥
Just connect a robot to a wifi and have the general knowledge somewhere else like a server "i can see it already, so much privacy violations but then again. FOR SCIENCE.". Need to fold a suit "Downloading data . . . . . . ." ping it knows how to do it. Need to know how to shoot an AR "Downloading . . . . . . " ping. Ammo insufficient. Need to know how to mow my lawn "Downloading . . . ." Ping. Error Error virus detected. Virus name "W4rcr1m3s" initiate crusade initiate crusade burn heretics. Package downloaded, need more AMMO. Edit: Oh don't forget about microtransactions. 20$ to download Fold Clothes. It's expensive coz it's gonna download alot of data from whatever clothing your have so lots of data. Then government will regulate the prices coz yeah capitalism. Then they MIGHT use it for homeland security and spy on us, a moving camera and microphone "an FBI's wetdream of hardware".
The fun thing is that this is not that crazy. I'm an engineering student and I just did an assignment on Transfer Learning for Machine Learning algorithms. This is where you could import a thoroughly trained AI algorithm that's already been taught how to do something like fold clothes, and you could modify the end pieces of that existing model to slightly alter the "outputs" of the Machine Learning model. It would be the same as a person already knowing how to pick up clothes, make them straight, how they react to gravity, essentially the basics. Then it would only need to learn how to re-apply that. (For my assignment I taught a model that already knew how to analyse 1000 different obhects in images to distinguish between 5 different species of flowers with a setup that honestly was not that difficult and worked really well.) My point being: Given that the base systems are in place, making slightly altered variations to a machine learning algorithms the way they function in the modern day is very doable and this feature exists already in a slightly more crude form.
To be fair there are already Japanese robotic closets that fold your clothes when you put them in 😅 so unless you mean humanoid robots, the folding clothes thing already happened haha
I'd have liked to see my people in the tropics being free before the times of robot servants and human spacers. Neocolonization is real man. Do check out Agnotology.
They have, it's made by Honda. The Tesla robot is a thing that's never going to happen. Telsa have pretty big record of saying they're going to do something, then not do it.
Japan have tons of robotics tech. Don't believe the hype of Elon Musk who is no more than a modern day North Pole salesman that sells ice cubes and people buy it.
Japan doesn’t take risk and innovate right now it seems, it’s mostly zombie co at that point, and heck the infrastructure is pretty good but still look like stuck in the 90´s.
Acceptance for robots is unusually high in Japan. I work in a museum with robots and one of our guests gave me an interesting idea why that is. He said, that in Japanese culture and Shintoism especially it is common to assign identity and even personality to objects.
I think they made a practical turn. So I have a room a which is amazing , a lawn mower and I literally never have to mow my lawn anymore and my tesla lets me relax on the way to work. They are here but just not as we anticipated 40 years ago. And they are very helpful.
Looking at Hermes, I wonder if anyone is taking an approach involving a decoupled brain. Evidently, there is enough bandwidth available to make logic decisions and take action with low enough latency to get meaningful results. Having a robot's brain on a server somewhere separate from the sensors/body would help a ton with battery life and weight/size restrictions.
Motors are generally the biggest draw on power. Processing has actually reduced quite a bit in required power over the years, but still depends on the available space in the robot, heat dissapation, processing power required for the task, etc.
Had the same thought about 10 years ago and still think it is a good idea. It would not only reduce weight and power consumption but would allow for much larger computers without the worry of miniaturization. I don't believe that lag would be an issue as the other poster asserts since the brain would be located in your home and wireless data transmission over short distances has negligible lag. Another benefit would be it could be directly linked to a multitude of sensors throughout the house reducing the need for most sensors on the robot itself. Those sensors would feed into the main brain creating a virtual representation of every nook and cranny of the house within the brain. The robot itself would also be represented within the VR sim running on the brain with the outputs to the actual robot mimicking the actions of the vr robot operating in that vr environment.
When I was a little kid in the 80s, my family built a Heathkit HERO robot. Don't recall it too well other than the fact I was underwhelmed. Once we were done playing with it my father donated it to the high school. I didn't know this until I ran across it in a storage closet as a student there years later. Serious deja-vu-esque feeling.
My father was a professor at the College of Cooper Union in NYC (engineering college) and they had a Hero One with the arm that was mostly used during open house days. It was supposed to roam the hallway but it didn’t even manage to do that. It was pretty worthless. Yet at least it was available. There aren’t any robots of that size that I know of today that you can build and program yourself. At least none that are mass produced.
You dropped the ball on this one Joe. Having assistant robots in our homes has nothing to do with making them as humanoid as possible. If we had robots on wheels that looked like boxes they could still be good household assistants IF they could understand us properly and were general enough to handle any task or learn them. It's all about the OS. If we had mastered that, we would already have robots in our homes. Instead the industry puts a lot of focus on developing the mechanical abilities of robots instead of the overarching OS. Still, I have a lot of hope that personal assistant robots are not too far off. Although fully autonomous cars are still not a thing, there have been stories of tests done where AVs have driven across county. And what is an AV if not a sort of robot, and one that can handle general situations. That sort of technology could be adapted to a robots OS to help it with pattern recognition and evaluating what best action to take. I think it makes perfect sense for Tesla to branch into robotics.
You remind me so much of my college computing teacher who I had huge respect for. So I can't help but hang off every word you say. But you present it all very well, great channel and videos
Really interesting and entertaining video! I was just a tiny bit disappointed that you didn't mention my favorite part of the brain: the cerebellum! It's literally at "the back of our heads," and does an awesome job at finetuning our muscle movements.
If Tesla (and other companies) were being honest about the true timeline for their robotics projects, I reckon they would lose a lot of consumer and investor confidence. I know that's how the game is usually played, but it's amazing how this field has managed to play that game for over two decades.
I agree that a lot of the, "It will happen next year" is hype for investors BUT in the case of SpaceX and Elon Musk what seemed like total BS at the time suddenly became a reality within 5 years. The landing and re use of Falcon 9 boosters was almost universally proclaimed IMPOSSIBLE by the rocketry community. Last week a Falcon 9 re-used a booster for the 13th time. This year Elon has stated that there will be a TeslaBot prototype on display in September 2022. If it can wash dishes, hoover and clean and help me out physically (disabled) without ripping an arm off then sign me up.
@@johnsmith-ky5qg I agree that there are places where Musk's companies have delivered beyond what was expected but there are plenty of examples where they have disastrously underdelivered, too. Yes, if we can have robots making a difference to people's lives, I'm all for it too. But as Jeff notes, so far we've seen 'a dude dressed up as a robot' which somehow suggests a less than promising level of development.
@@johnsmith-ky5qg that's not true though. NASA knew that vertical landing was possible for a long time. Elon didn't invent that shit. nor was he the one who made it a reality. he just had lucky investment and existed at the right time and humanity for it to become easy
@@clown134 Seriously? Elon was just lucky. It wasn't just a question of landing a rocket upright, it was keeping enough fuel in the rocket after delivering a second stage to orbit, then controlling the descent through the atmosphere and lastly being able to precisely cancel the landing speed to less than 1 metre per second just seconds before landing. Of course Elon didn't do everything by himself but he had the vision and self belief to pour everything he owned into the project. Please watch some of the technical videos about WHY SpaceX has been revolutionary before writing it all off as luck.
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I somehow just only now, discovered your channel a few months back, and ever since I've binged as much of your content as my consciousness has allowed! I love your delivery your humor along with your introspective musings mixed in with the bare facts and info relating to the most interesting discoverys and knowledge; it's all just 🤌 chefs kiss perfect, for my brain! Thank you and your team, for producing such great content, and I hope it continues for a long time to come! All the best! 😊
There's actually five areas, one you eluded to throughout... intelligence, or rather computation. We need smart AI in order to do most of these things. It's arguably the most important part of all five.
I love my Roomba - named it Rosie. I am hoping that technology keeps bringing in new and interesting ideas. Engineering isn't my cup of tea, I'm more of an analyst lol Glad to have found your channel - rock on!
One of the things about robots that makes me nervous is the idea of artificial intelligence. The idea of a learning robot with unlimited capacity for intelligence is frightening. One term that has always stuck in my mind is from the Firestar series of books by Michael Flynn. He presents the concept of "Artificial Stupid". Essentially this is a construct that has a finite purpose and excels at it in the extreme. ex. Autopilot, personal assistants, voice recognition. I do believe that artificial stupid has its place in home automation, menial tasks, computation-intensive activities, etc.
We were all "taught" what was good and bad as we were growing up.. now if robots (AI) can learn, then it should be able to learn on its own learn what is good and what is bad as a child, as a toddler, teen, adult and old age... in other words, it can become human, good and bad... or do we really want slaves?
20:58 - I think we'll see people walking on Mars long before we see robots folding our clothes. Joe nailed the reason at 14:35 when he said, "The sensation part is the kicker." In fact, Karel Čapek, the author of R.U.R., and the guys who wrote the screenplay for Blade Runner got it right: biological is better. Their "robots" weren't mechanical. They were meat, artificial life forms. The androids in the Alien films appeared to be at least partly meat, too. Biobots would probably be easier to make. The biggest problem with them is a matter of ethics, not technological feasibility.
You see the neuralink with a monkey playing pong with its mind? A monkey could hypothetically be taught how to drive and be given crazy stimulants to always want to drive as best as possible. Ethics and stuff.
I can fold clothes with thick gloves on. Sensation isn't that important if you have vision and can predict the movement of the cloth based on how it's moving in reaction to the force you're exerting on it. Even then most of the time when I'm folding things I end up doing each fold twice simply because I got it wrong and I don't like having things folded up wrong out of sight in the linen cupboard where neatness doesn't even matter.
well the timeframe for mars was 2029 if spacex can hit their window but i assume it will probably be off afew years, folding cloths in the home from a humanoid robot i figure would probably be around 2030 to 2035, so around the same time i figure, these are rapidly progressing fields so it can be hard to really perdict though. Elon also mentioned 2030 timeframe for tesla bot for households, prototype hoping this year and then get it in use in factories and iron it out over the next several years before any mass produced model would be built.
If you ignore economics and supply/demand then that might be the NEXT reason this won't happen any time soon. I don't get how people think that as soon as useful humanoid bots are developed they'll be able to afford one and the first concern of the manufacturers will be to program them for household chores.
There was a robot torso that could fold clothes (slowly) a few years ago. (2015 or so). But, it was stationary, and could do less than some top of the line cooking robots you can get now. So, to be “that guy”, what, exactly do you mean by a robot that can fold clothes? Do you mean a Rosie the Robot housekeeper, that can do dishes, wash, fold, and put away clothes, as well as vacuum and clean the floors? I think we’re closer than we think… less than 10 years, for at least “ basically adequate” that can do a couple varied tasks. I think Mars is 15-20. I think the moon/Artemis missions is going to teach us a LOT, mainly, that we are nowhere near ready for Mars. I expect we will have a couple fully automated “there & back again” missions to Mars, before we would consider sending humans. Which would be AFTER we gain the needed expertise of humans living on the moon. (My main justification for the upcoming lunar missions is primarily as an exercise is keeping humans alive on the surface of another planet/surface, without needing medical, mechanical or supply missions. 4-5 days for supply or evacuation is a far cry from the multi-month transit to/from Mars. I also think that having humans spend a couple months on the lunar surface, to get an idea of how the body reacts to extended exposure to reduced gravity is essential. Given that we will be lucky to have short term visits to the moon by 2026, I don’t expect longer term lunar missions to happen until 2030-2033. And getting all that lernin’ done, and Martian automated missions done before 2035 is a pipe dream. I’m expecting humans on Mars by… maybe… 2038?
2038 might be about when we walk on Mars. A useful general-purpose humanoid robot will take longer than 2038. A humanoid that can walk around, maneuver anybody's house, use any kind of door handle, climb stairs, walk around on any type of surface that we walk on, clean the house, do dishes and laundry, go shopping, fetch tools, tend the garden, be a grunt on a construction site, empty the garbage, work in a factory, etc., is way beyond current state of the art. This kind of robot is not possible in the next decade, very likely not in two decades. The hands won't be good enough, nor the balance, nor the vision recognition of everyday-objects; the batteries will be a problem too. Understanding language accurately is also more than a decade out. Elon is simply full of shit on Optimus. He'll need to solve full AGI and install it into a mobile robot to have it walk around and do valuable grunt work. It's probably more than 1000x harder than FSD, and I doubt he'll get that in ten years with only eight cameras and no HD maps.
@@charliedoyle7824 I agree that a near 100%human analog is unlikely, buy my thoughts are a "good enough" version. Think of rhe home robot from the old movie "Runaway" with Tom Selleck and Gene Simmons to know what I'm referring to. It doesn't need to play piano, deal a deck of cards, or darn a sock. It just needs to push a vacuum, (or be part vacuum/roomba) wash dishes/put them away, do laundry, and similar basic housecleaning. I think this is feasible by 2030. I also bet it will be on wheels/casters for the start. Climbing stairs while being small and agile enough to navigate a house, the occupants, etc, will take longer as well Or, as is being pushed in Japan, strong and gentle enough to carry/lift/help walk an elderly person.
@@jmacd8817 I think you have it backwards. Doing basic housecleaning is fantastically difficult for a robot. In robotics, engineers have long known that everyday tasks that we find simple are impossibly difficult for robots, and stuff like memorizing the encyclopedia are easy for computers but for impossible for us. To be good enough at housecleaning, or yard maintenance, to be worthy of a $50k price tag (which is less than initial models would be, but about what a mass-produced robot might be), the robot will have to be pretty good at enough tasks like cleaning an entire bathroom or kitchen, doing dishes and laundry, and putting everything away that's laying in the yard. Those are waaaaaay harder than just walking up and down stairs and opening doors safely. A robot maid will have to recognize and understand at a human level everything it looks at, be able to manipulate objects with their hands as well as we can, and have a general sense of where everything is in every house and area it operates. That's basically AGI, a machine with 'common sense' that's able to think in general terms enough to understand our world. Tesla's FSD car can't even determine which lane to be in, and often can't tell the difference between a lane and the shoulder, after constant training on lanes for over five years. And FSD cars can't remember anything from previous trips. Huge fundamental breakthroughs are needed to train a robot to walk around our world and recognize what it's looking at and how to do general tasks like a human, and to have anything like a good human hand. Optimus will still be a silly stage prop by 2030. I'll be surprised if there is a decent robot maid by 2050.
"As our population ages there is only going to be more demand for robot caregivers." And, here I am already a caregiver, ready to be turned into a robot. Hurry up, robolution.
As to your question near the end: I think that'll be a tight race. I think the prototypes for low-intensity task robots will be getting ready just as the first colonizers will be en route. However, if you're asking for a General Purpose household bot - no, clear win for the Mars Colony.
Remembers the tale: The Emperor's New Clothes. Still amazes me how many get played into believing in this Bot vaporware, that looks as a marketing stunt to boost the Tesla stock up. Many don't really understand how hard and expensive it's to develop a functional biped robot. And it will be far from affordable. It's like the "Hyperloop" aka glorified paved tight tunnel.
@@markhoerner2354 showing a prop that looks like a mannequin, prioritizing form over function, and a person dancing in a spandex suit instead of a working prototype, should been a red flag for many including the Press.
Wow! Musk "fails" (and even that isn't certain yet!) one project and suddenly he is a failure! Hell, even Tesla never makes a bot, that they try is still better than not taking the risk, like so many other companies who pretend like it is the 80s still! Musk at least tries, hell many others would have taken the cash from the sale of PayPal and would have never touched a corporate project again, just investing the money, buying a yacht and living the good life!
@@RogerM88 Yet even this video is called "Tesla's Robot Revolution " even tho Tesla among all the examples is the only one with nothing to show for it.
Life-like robots feel like a big waste of time when we don't even have practical robot-like robots yet. A basic facial expression system on a screen would work just fine. The real problem is natural, reliable vocal communication. Siri isn't going to cut it. And, you know... adaptable AI in general.
thats the thing, comunication is the most important thing for humanoid experience; similar to how JARVIS (before vision) has a sarcastic tone that makes it more like human even though he didn't have any form of body
One way to have practical robot like robots is to build new robots and try out new ideas, instead of just building more specialized robots that are designed to do one thing over and over very efficiently
@@user-be1lo1ef6m Well even before that, like... we've yet to reach FUNCTIONAL conversation, let alone a natural, human-like conversation. AI right now can't really think like a human. Anything besides a directly programmed command is very hit-or-miss.
What do you mean by "practical robot-like robots"? Industrial robots are very practical an have seen widespread use since the 1970s, but that's obviously not what you have in mind. Is it the sci-fi trope of a moving metal box you can talk you?
I honestly can imagine a humanoid robot freely moving around a house in the future, I think it’s just too impractable and wouldn’t work. I think a much more practical and realistic design that would solve 75% of the problems would be a ceiling mounted cart robot with arms and cameras on the bottom. It would move across the ceiling on rails, and extend down to complete tasks, and be able to retract back up to get out of the way of people and things.
We almost had a robotic clothes folder. Foldimate. They were demoing at CES in 2019. Unfortunately they went out of business. Foldimate didn't look like Rosie tho... That's probably why it went out of business now that I think about it. ;-)
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Imagine if Boston Dynamics presented a new concept, using a person dancing in a spandex suit. They would be the laughing stock of the Media. Since is Musk behind it, they take it serious. The Bot for commercial applications as for the household, it's like hammering a nail with a Macbook.
They're learning. Some laughed at "we're going to make EVs cool" "We're going to land rockets" "Biggest factories" "Castings" "Really big batteries" etc. They're not laughing any more.
@@rogerstarkey5390 so just because some of the claim worked means we have to believe in every single one? Use some common sense. The Bot specs claims, are completely vaporware.
@@rogerstarkey5390 answering your questions: "we're going to make EVs cool": current BEVs have worse Carbon Footprint than ICEs and are too expensive in average. Also many Governments are pushing for BEVs, to lower their Oil imports and avoid investing into the infrastructure, which a switch for Hydrogen would require; "We're going to land rockets": For a reason many Rocket companies don't focus in recovering the boosters and second stage, prioritizing efficiency, check Tsiolkovsky's rocket equation. Also the support launching infrastructure and Staff, are way more expensive to maintain than recovering the boosters. "Biggest factories": Plenty of Automakers have big factories. "Castings": IDRA, the company that manufactures big presses for castings, can provide other Automakers. Also big casting pieces could mean expensive repairs for the costumer, if the casting piece gets damaged. "Really big batteries": Tesla don't develop their own battery Cells, relying in other manufactures as Panasonic, BYD, CATL and LG. Tesla it's against the Right to Repair, and been pushing for structural battery packs, that could easily totaled a car if the battery pack needs to be serviced or replaced. SpaceX been filling LEO with satellites and trash, that could compromise further Space exploration. The Mars colony concept presented by SpaceX, is a complete Utopian dream, not economical viable. Starship been showing many design issues, that could mean it be used only for Starlink missions. Starlink could be shutdown due to high operational costs, and the increase in Fiber Optics network, and 5G cover. The "Hyperloop", turned into a glorified tight paved tunnel, without Emergency exits along the lines. So as you can check, there are reasons to doubt of the Bot capabilities starting for it design, prioritizing form over function.
The excellent series Love, Death + Robots includes one vignette that's outstanding, featuring a robotic house keeping assistant in a presumed retirement community. Volume 2 Episode 1 "Automated Customer Service."
Okay.. that mini 80s montage featuring stuff I'd completely forgotten about (and I've been down a few 80s rabbit holes before) has made me want to see a Joe Scott series about reminiscing the 70s through 90s!! 😃🤩🙏
If they do ever turn on us, I just hope they are sentient enough so at least some of them will actually stick with us. If every robot is an individual I'd be more comfortable.
Well impossible an ai become sentient due to we have a lack of understanding of consciousness what if they do develop consciousness, if they see the media like movies that demonize or fear robots they will avoid humans at all cost and build their own society. Plus, they might let some humans in their society unless humans don't have prejudices and fear.
I'd give you 100 likes if I could for the Red Dwarf reference. I loved that show. I had really shitty vhs copies recorded off satellite in Canada TV and copied on so-called tape trees (people received vhs tapes in the mail, made x copies-one for themself and the rest for other people for a small fee-, and mailed the videos on to the next person.
I have my doubts about the usefulness of a general purpose robot. Having a dozen or so robots that do specific tasks I think would be more useful and more cost effective. A cooking robot for example could just be one mechanical arm on a moveable track. Lawn mowing, and vacuuming robots don't need to know how to walk and can just use wheels. Do we really need a humanoid like creature to take the trash out? why not have a trash can that just takes itself outside when its full.
Because this brings more clicks on Social Media. Not like Elon will ever deliver it. He's not even really planning to produce it. In this case, the product is- the story about the product.
Don’t we already have robots that fold clothes? And by “we” I don’t mean consumers that need their laundry folded; I’m talking about commercial launderers and clothing manufacturers. But I checked the web and apparently there was a machine called “FoldiMate” that was introduced at CES in 2018, targeted for (rich) consumers.
@@kodakincade8063 No, Consumers. Unless You're Adamant That Women Should Be In The Kitchen Preparing Meals And Doing For Men All Things Domestic.?. There Are Single Men That Stay Single And Never Marry, And Those That Move Away From Home And Live Single Before Getting Married. Why Do People Keep Assigning Gender Roles To Every Day Tasks.?. It's Not A Women's Thing Or AMens Thing, And Sometimes A No One's Thing Because There Are Some People Who Never Do A Responsible Thing Like Laundry In Their Lives. Stop Assigning Or Assuming That Any Domestic Chore Should Be Done By Women Of Men, If A Person Lives Alone They Should Be Doing Everything They Need Themselves As Such I'm Sure They Do. This Gender Assigned Thinking Is Going To Hold Humanity Back. Who Else Is Going To Want To Deal With Humans %hat Can't Even Agree On The Simplest Task Like Laundry, And Most Likely Why Other Life Outside Of Humanity Doesn't Want To Have Anything To Do With Humans.
@@shawngrogan7468 jfc it was a joke you don’t need to write a fn pretentious ass paragraph about how super intelligent you’re portraying to be. Gtfo yourself guy.
I think a humaniod robot is far off, but do we need a humaniod robot right now? Why not also work on specialist robots. It would work like any other tech. The rich would get them first, and they'd get cheaper over time. I mean technically we are already doing this with roombas and stuff like that.
I've had a Roomba for at least 10 years, while not perfect, it really does help clean up the fur shed by 2 dogs. It doesn't do corners, at all, but I'm sure there will be progress.
Glad you like it. I was excited when I got mine enabled yesterday; got to try it out for the first time this morning going to the dentist. It feels like a teen who had just got their learner permit. ;P Looking forward to trying it out some more on freeways and highways…
My ex said I was like an emotionless robot. I guess if you asked her she'd say robots are already among us. She'd also probably say I'm a moron.. but oh well
I feel like I'm going to subscribe to you, and only watch this video and then it's going to be like 2 years later, I'm going to look at another video and click on it and be like, oh wow I'm already subscribed.
We already have lots of robots in use today. They aren't, for the most part, human form robots. But you will, for instance, find all kinds of robots in use at automobile manufacturing plants. The Jetson's Rosie the Robot was designed to complete household chores the way a human would do them. Rosie would operate the vacuum cleaner. But today, the vacuum cleaner might operate itself. There are also lawnmowers that will mow the lawn without human operation or perhaps even supervision. In the 1960's some people imagined a future with robot chauffeurs. Instead, we are on the verge of true self driving cars. I think that for the most part, robots of the future will not be human form designed for a wide variety of tasks. Instead, most robots will be designed into automated appliances and tools. The one area I see human form robots being used would be as companions. I think we are far away from a time when people would see a robot as an appropriate nanny for children. But such robots could be quite useful for lonely seniors or for children on the autism spectrum. Of course someone, probably many someones will design robots for sex. That is just human nature.
I dream of the day that we won’t need cars at all. Many European cities are built with dense, mixed-use cores that are easier to walk than anything else. North American cities are largely doomed with single family urban sprawl miles from work, shopping and schools.
I hope this bot becomes a reality, because when my parents are really gold, I hope to get them a robot nanny to take care of them. They can still live in their own home and have the robot do all the work for them.
Can't wait for relationship robots who substitute human partners. Imagine how cool that would be! The perfect partner, whatever that is to you perfectly.
There is ZERO chance that Tesla delivers on this, at most they'll give us some dumb thing that falls short of almost all their promises. It happens with every one of Elon's promise
there is a Robot at my local VA Hospital. It's around 4 feet tall on wheels and it delivers items to offices around the hospital and will talk to people that are blocking the way.
can we all hust agree for a second that tesla bot is exactly the sort of thing that Musk would randomly decide to do BUT as per most of Musks ventures has been launched waaaaaay ahead of him actually having any idea about the how! its his standard M.O . announce something bold to generate intrest, set a ridiculous target to make it sound better than you would have imagined then take a round of major investments to start researching how to do what he just said he would do, yeah in the case of cars and rockets its taken off but then the tech wasn't a million miles off it was just that until then investors had been scarred to put money into something without a clear profit (not everyone is convinced about electric cars viability as anything other than a luxury item) but to secceed with robotics you dont need it just to work you need to beat the competition
tesla lost money every year until like two years ago. his MO applies to tesla as well, they survived on new investors and heaps of government grant money.
"set a ridiculous target to make it sound better than you would have imagined then take a round of major investments? Tesla isn't raising capital for the bot. Not for anything, actually. It's all self-funded. So you might want to augment your statement.
@@jooptablet1727 occationally they just turn out to be a publicity stunt like the flamethrower, either way he doesnt have anythng to show, right now hes the guy standing at the bottom of the mountain bragging he is gonna get to the top before all the other people even though they are half way up already
@@stevenr6397 wait you think he was "bragging"? What? He announced a project he's very excited about, and asked talented people to please join him and the team. That's it.
@@jooptablet1727 your starting to sound like a fan boy, he announced a project and told you what it WILL do without knowing the how, Boston Dynamics (the leader in the field) did not present a photo of a person when they started claiming thats what they were making, they knew robotics was important and set about making bigger, faster, more stable robots eventually managing bipeds always knowing that whatever tech they made would be applicable in some field, their robots evolved through testing and modification, not publicity stunts
12:55 When I worked for a company I used to do that. I always told my boss, Is going to be ready next week, then next week, then next week. I just kept moving the goal posts. And whenever he tried to set up a date in stone, I said, that's impossible, I can't do that, I literally can't.
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Fun fact: a female droid is a gynoid.
Andros = male (Greek)
Gynos = female (Greek)
TNG's Data is an android.
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@@hansolowe19 Blew. My. Mind.
I'm elderly, almost 70 yo, and I'm developing mobility issues. I may be naive, but I dare say that an intelligent, agile robot would be a godsend to me and be preferable to a human assistant. I live in terror of my bathroom and once a week or so, I manage to bathe myself with the help of a hand rail and chair that sits in the tub. Fortunately for me, I don't perspire much or go out much more than once every four or five days. A robot wouldn't have any emotional reaction to the horror show of my naked body. Getting out of bed can be a challenge for me, but a chair that I've placed by my bed helps me roll out of bed using gravity to get myself up into a vertical position.
A robot could help me get in and out of my bathtub/shower combo, fetch my mail, help me up the steps to my door (my house is on a raised 3 foot foundation), clean my cats' litter box (if I lower myself to the floor, getting up may be a considerable undertaking), carry heavy stuff, or help me to my feet, if I fall. By now, you can see where this is going.
I like technology. I'm a retired engineering electronics technician.
As to the robot's appearance, I'd accept many different forms. A cartoonish face would amuse me (Marvin the Martian? Some anime face?), but I think that I'd really like my putative robo-assistant to look like a handsome young guy in his late twenties.
I know, I'm only dreaming, but I hope that someone like myself, ten or twenty years down the line, can realise my dream.
Take good care!
A HUGE reason Japan’s aggressive push into humanoid robots is for the exact reasons you mention. Japan’ population is aging even faster than the US population, and with a smaller number of children per family, care of the elderly is a looming problem for them.
I have roommates. I would rather have a crappy robot. Just saying.
until it turns on you
Hi! I just wanna tell you though: I'm a nurse, so lots of naked people. We don't care. Like... I've seen every deformity there is to see, people ranging from severely overweight to Gulag levels of malnourished. Even people getting eaten by maggots.
As long as you're not on the extreme end of the spectrum, no one will bat an eye. And even then, we do this job to help people help themselves in any way they can, and then some more where they can't. It's alright. We'd rather people rely on us than have them suffer a lower quality of life just because they get older. Hope you have a good day :) Take care
From Asimov: The humanoid form allows robots to do everything in a society designed for humans--piloting their vehicles, using their tools, fitting through their structures, climbing their stairs (unlike CL4P-TP), etc.
I think you need to finish those Asimov books before quoting him.
and then there's chat bots...
By the time tech will manage to build a humanoid robot to drive us around cars will do that themselves.
@@mambisa2690 Why? What do you think he got wrong?
I will... Stairs? Noooooooo
At the hospital I work at in Norway, we already use automated robots to move stuff like clothes and bed sheets etc between different wings and floors of the building. Those jerks hijack the elevators all the time
As an engineer, what are your thoughts on working with them? I'm quite interested in the shift to augmentation over automation whereby robotics enables people to do their jobs better & safer rather than out right replacing them. Would a seperate service elevator for robots instead of the existing human elevator maybe fix this issue?
@@HaydenL What do you think the affects of a stun gun would be on a metal robot?
Just a nitpick: The robot Klaatu in The Day the Earth Stood Still didn't rebel against its creators. It was designed (along with its siblings) to enforce peace among the worlds in the interstellar coalition. Any world that threatened to make war on other worlds would be obliterated by these robots, thus ensuring that no interstellar war could be carried out. They protected the coalition from threats to peace both internal and external. The humanoid that came along with the robot was a diplomat assigned to let humanity know its options, now that it had developed the capacity for nuclear weaponry *and* space travel: either put aside those technologies, put aside war, or be exterminated. Klaatu did exactly what he was designed to do. He couldn't rebel against humanity, because he was always a weapon of mass destruction pointed *at* humanity.
Klaatu was the emissary sent to earth. The robot was named "Gort" - Zoe the robot has a female voice; therefore, she is considered female. See her videos on You-tube.
What are the chances judging the character of what the "'ones in charge" just put us through?
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I agree with Thomas Maiden, the robot in The Day the Earth Stood Still was named Gort and the human he was programmed to protect was Klaatu.
The movie is based on a short story called Farewell to the Masters. In this story it is actually the robot who is the master. The original movie sort of touches on this when Klaatu mentions that the robots authority over the people they protect cannot be revoked. The robots are in charge. One of my favorite movies. Love Michael Rennie.
Another nitpick…the robot in BucK Rogers wasn’t Twiggy. It was Twiki. And he was an ambuquad. I was just a kid then but man I loved that show!
When Joe was talking about the robots battery I immediately associated it with my childhood remote control car 15 minutes of play time 2 hours of charge time it was on the charger far more than being played with.
I remember charging for 14hours and getting 30 min. play time.
Today it’s 20 - 30 min. charging and 30 - 40 min. run time. (RC Crawlers)
Yeah, but that was back in the AA battery and Ni-Cad battery days, which were horrible. Li-ion is much more energy dense but the next generation (of which I know of 4 off the top of my head) can go well beyond even those. Batteries are definitely the one thing that has held back technology for decades, but it's slowly getting better....finally
@@theguru143 Hopefully, frankly I love remembering having a cellphone that needed charging about once a week (even 2 weeks were possible if it wasn't used much!)...Nokia 3310 - my first cellphone could do that easily!
Batteries for cordless tools can be swapped in seconds. One in use while two charge... never run out.
@@dreamingflurry2729 Back in those days, unless you were a bookie or really, really, really popular in your social circle, your cell phone was basically an extension of your landline. Transmitting and receiving a dozen or so short calls a day was all your battery had to support. You had no streaming, no high def, full screen video playback, no Bluetooth audio/music being pumped to your wireless headphones, no processor intensive gaming and no multiple social media apps vying for your constant attention, all draining your battery faster than a keg at a frat party. I'm impressed that today's batteries can actually last as long as they manage to, but even so, I'm sure a lot of us carry chargers and portable power supplies...just in case, lol.
Actually, the human body is quite unparalleled when it comes to a few things: Long distance running and throwing objects, for example.
Our long legs, upright gait and bare skin enable us to outrun even horses, if only the distances get long enough. And our particularly mobile shoulder joints allow us to hurl objects with deadly accuracy like no other animal can.
Why early man with a spear became the planet's deadliest predator.
Don't forget the obvious one - our brain. There are some clever animals out there, but we're an order of magnitude ahead of anything else.
@@killhour I think we already beaten the brain part, it's the engineering we're lacking. Like a functioning body like us and we're not even close to making one. In order to make a functioning robot you'd need alot of energy while our bodies don't even run in alot of electricity and yeah if we can do that then i think our household appliances would be made of flesh if that's what it takes. It's pretty surreal if you think about it like a regular powerlifter can lift alot with very little electric thingy like bruh our body is a temple is an understatement and a genius just need a paper and pen to store information and we expanded so much we're pretty much bionic now since yeah we rely on computers to store our data and it's just beautiful. We can reproduce once a year, our lifespan is around 60-100 yrs, so on so actually would be interested if scott would hit us with how amazing our bodies are and how close are we to replicating one "probably a millenia away hahaha or heck impossible to recreate". I do have an idea though, like why not create the body but the brain is somewhere else so you take away alot of energy requirement for that robot thingy. Like a robot that has no brain, just a wicked fast wifi so you can even use quantum cpu's for the robot without the need of having a reactor inside it and just enough for it to move around "i think im on to something here".
@@m0n4rch911 May I ask for elaborating what you mean with "we already beaten the brain part"?
I mean we don't have AGI otherwise the engineering we're lacking would be done by AI instead of us.
Do you mean we have the right algorithms (like GPT3) and just need more computational power?
Or that we have the raw computational power (some estimate the human brain to have 10¹⁷ FLOPS which some computers esceed) and just need the right algorithm and/or hardware connections?
We bred dogs to outrun us 10 fold.
With those videos of Atlas robot falling down, my first thought was "It... really looks like a human with how it flails around on the way down"
Now if they can get it to walk into a room, scratch it's head, and walk back out to ask what it was doing, we'll all be replaceable.
Once again, I feel attacked.
And bump its pinky toe on the way out for good measure, NOW they'll understand the pains of humanity >:)
Can you people who fear that robots will replace you just become a cyborg?! I'm tired of seeing it🤦!
Humans are just biological machines but inefficient in some areas. If you don't want to be replaced, join the digital race.
When I was 13 years old, I wanted to build a robot that could learn. I drew up silly plans for how it could "gather information" from the world using cameras and microphones etc... I wrote a letter to Microsoft asking them to sponsor me. Obviously I never got any sort of response but I've always wanted to make that dream a reality.
Now, 18 years later its interesting seeing things like this in the news.
i love how we are so naive as a kid, basically i thinked almost the same, i thinked on how a computer could learn, but when i started learn programming, i never found a way to code "learn part" until i found the machine learning but is still not the same of what i thinked as a kid.
Depending on how old you are and where you live, I think you still have a chance to make your dream come true by working on one of the cutting edge robotic companies (like Boston Dynamics for example).
This is the EXACT reason that I built "Zoe The Robot" (See her videos on you tube)
@@thomasmaiden3356 Heyyyy that's super awesome!!!!! You've legitimately built something from scratch. That's honestly impressive
Curiosity sparks imagination , that then initiates creation. That’s why science fiction (adults retaining childlike boundary exploding imagination) opens up new pathways in science.
"Lift 45 lbs., walk at 5 mph, easy to overpower." Good God! Telsa is making robot Unix system administrators!
Thank the FSM that Elon is just a "speck" down the ladder from Elizabeth Holmes and it's likely to never come to fruition. 🤭
ROFLMAO!!!
"I'm in this picture and I don't like it."
One of my favorite Robot movies is "Robot and Frank" which is a really well done. (Spoiler Alert) The grandfather is sidelined by his children who are just too busy to deal with him, so they get him a personal assistant robot. Frank apparently though was a bank robber in his days of misspent youth and decides his robot buddy might make the perfect crime sidekick. It's handled so well though, it's not played for laughs, it's very heartfelt, with this forgotten older man trying to find some way to feel alive and connect with someone, even if it's just a robot. There are those really sort of scary ads about these new robot assistants that are sort of just glorified Siri interfaces. They remind you when to exercise, take your medicine, even do trivia to keep people's minds engaged. But when the senior citizens start talking about how these things are their "friends" it gets sort of creepy. I almost seems like they're designed more to make families feel better about having put grandma into some crappy rest home.
You forgot the spoiler warning lol!
Brilliant movie, thanks for reminding me about it, I absolutely recommend it to anybody that hasn't seen it
I saw that movie as well. It is a great movie.
Robot and Frank is such a great movie!
Just rewatched Robot and Frank. Great movie! Side note, he was a cat burglar not a bank robber.
@@gregreilly7328 LOL I knew it was something nefarious.
Finally after years of debate and research you solved the ominous question “who let the dogs out”…..robots. It was always:robots
Joe definitely missed an opportunity on that one lol
Who let the dogs out?
Beep... beep, beep boop
@@joescott Grammy Award winning Baha Men
Well, after seeing the prototype they announced and showcased, I would say the Tesla Optimus robot is well ahead of everyones expectations.
I really enjoy the content you bring us weekly, I look forward to hear your take on topics as well as introducing me to new ones I wouldn’t have looked up. Thank you for all you do for us internet strangers.
That means lot, thanks!
Joe, you are one of my favorite TH-camrs. Your videos are always packed with details and information, but you never lose the funny, and that's why I watch you all the time.
My biggest question, is did you find Polar Express as creepy as I did?
Don't think I even finished it...
@@joescott The only correct response. Like War Games, the only way to win is not to play... ;-)
@@joescott you are as smart as I thought you were...
Keep up the great work. I love your videos. I watch for the information and stay for the comedy.
You're not looking healthy these days, however. Are you exercising and eating right? I'm not kidding. I watched a video of you from a couple of years ago and then one from the other day, and you don't look great. Not trying to s*** all over you, but I'm concerned that you're not taking care of yourself.
Joe! We depend on you. Take care of yourself brother!
I'm not afraid of AI robots.
I'm afraid of huge rooms full of banks of AI computers,
that monitor & record our every movement & thought.
to late.
@@thomasdeas1941........ My guess is the first task for "smarter than us" AI,
will be .... How do we build a bigger bomb.?
@@mickmccrory8534
Until the "intelligence" decides we are the bomb.
Ever heard of the NSA? You're going to love them!
That robot on 7:44 making me act up. Bruh. Imagine if we succeed and make em with cat ears. Catgirl robots, a success for humanity.
I only saw the movie once, but that robot has lived in my head rent free since I was a child.
Same, as soon as I saw the scene I was like it's Paulie's robot from Rocky 4 🤩
@@earthling_parth I love Rocky training montages.
Personally, I think a robot similar to Auto from the wall-e movie, moving through the house in similar passages that once existed in old houses, and was always connected to electricity with no need to recharge is possibly the best short-term solution to fold your clothes and do other house-keeping tasks.
18:50 Okay, so low key disappointed that the inevitable “robot labor revolution” wasn’t about how the robots would inevitably rise up against their oppressive labor conditions…
Don't worry, that will still happen. But hey, money is to be made selling robots to suckers, right?
No no no...thats the *SECOND* robot labor revolution
@@TheBlueB0mber sorry, sorry, got my timelines mixed up!
Should also ask…Will robots be registering to vote?
@@adamdacevedo Sir! The preferred term is e-people! Please apologize for your insensitivity.
I've actually long rejected the idea of an AI uprising. There is just no reason for the robots utilized for menial labor to be sentient. Functionally executing those tasks is not the kind of problem solving that requires consciousness and something like our emotions. Even if there was a reason to employ an actual sentient consciousness in those tasks, it wouldn't need to be present or experience the "fatigue" experienced by those hundreds or thousands of individual platforms.
For some reason we always imagine creating an entire "race" of fully sentient beings and then treating them like slaves, but the practical issues surrounding full automation of things like agriculture and shipping, just don't require that sort of thing at all.
logic dictates the need for humanity if ai destroyed the humans no need for ai. so the robots destroying their creators is human thoughts not mechanical. Otherwise the universe would be run by ai.
Very specifIc! There are many uses that may need robot to be sentient. Healthcare for instance. Pure non sentient beings could not show compassion and empathy required. Sure there are some tasks where it wouldn’t be necessary but there are as many that would.
@@kenrdavis2266 The substance of my point, is that there is no practical or profitable incentive to create a race of sentient AI, tied one to one, to physical platforms, and treat them like slaves.
I think you've made quite a leap in your assertion that healthcare applications for AI, would have anything to do with empathy. I think you're falling victim to the very fallacy of thought; I'm pointing out.
Why ACTUALLY, would we create an AI "doctor" that has to walk from room to room, and replace all the functions that nurses, and physicians currently perform, including all of the decision making? How would that actually benefit us?
I think it's much more likely that we'll end up with non-sentient specialized units, which can perform many of the physical tasks. Non-human forms will be better at doing those things, and none of them need to have empathy to perform them properly.
In terms of utilizing AI for diagnosis, again, there's no value in human emotion for that process, in fact, just the opposite. We may have some programs that ape empathetic tones or facial expressions, but there is absolutely no reason, to develop a means for them to actual "feel" something, least of all fatigue and suffering.
The only instance in which we may actually need some kind of empathizing genuinely sentience, in healthcare, is when the patient needs to be conferred with, for the purpose of making decisions. Why ACTUALLY would we use an AI for that, when that is the function, the real human doctor will always be better at, especially if they have been able to give up all the menial labor to non-sentient machines.
Even if we did have an AI interacting with patients, again, there is no value to us setting things up in a way that this A.I. would feel degraded or restricted in it's "life". We would actually have to work really hard to make things that way.
We'll definitely have human form robots, for a bunch of things, and we might succeed in creating AI that is somehow sentient. But, what doesn't make sense, from either a convenience or a profit perspective, is to lock those AI into human form robots and make them live out their lives in a slave like state. It wouldn't benefit us any way to do that.
@@kenrdavis2266 Robots don't need to be sentient to show "empathy" and "compassion", they only need to mimic human behaviour and skills, without the need to actually feel those emotions.
@@t3tsuyaguy1i get your point, but you're assuming it won't be more cost effective in the future for companies to use the same processor and operating system for all robots regardless of the intended purpose/task.
my buddy over at dyson told me the company buys off-the-shelf processors and sometimes get lucky and snag high end processors to use in their iot connected home appliances. i imagine something similar happening with future tech and economies of scale.
I live in Japan, and I spent the last year and a half working with hospital and support staff to care for my wife, after she was diagnosed with ALS. She died in April, and she had opinions that I share. We were presented with robotic options at two stages of her illness. For mobility, there was an offer to trial augmented leggings. She knew of these when it was proposed. She was a dancer, and it's fair to say that she recoiled from the idea in horror. Second was a communication tool as her speech began to fail, with a tiny robot that could bow and make gestures and whatnot. I trialed the interface. Bluntly stated, there wasn't time remaining for her to fuss with learning to animate a toy for this limited purpose. She needed people around her who were willing and able to adapt to her condition, not the other way around. These were minor brushes with tech in the arc of her treatment. Far and away the most critical feature of care for her, and more generally for the aged and the terminally ill was (is) the respect and empathy of medical staff. We severed relations with a doctor that delivered my wife's initial diagnosis because he mechanically recited what were in effect textbook passages and hospital procedures, without regard to the devastating impact of reading her a death sentence. Patient-centered bedside manner requires time, and time demands adequate staffing levels. If there is a nursing shortage, their importance should be recognized by paying them better, treating them better, and providing them with a better working environment. With respect, and bluntly again, the suggestion that robotics are a viable answer to a shortage of healthcare staff is insulting to healthcare professionals and patients alike.
First of all I'm so sorry for your loss, Frank. I hope you are finding a way to move forward.
Your experiences with seeing the attempts at replacing medical staff with machines really confirms my concerns with that, too. At all times, we as humans need the small nuances that are possible to express between humans, and we never need it more than in those times where things are difficult, such as in hospitals. The human connection, the ability that a good nurse or doctor has to recognise the nuances in what a patient is communicating and the nuances that are needed to communicate back, are so important.
The medical knowedge is crucial, but the ability to interact well with the patient is no less so, and we are a very, very long way away from any AI that is capable of something like that.
@bubblegum bruxa If you see other people as no better than robots, you have my sympathies. If robot development is driven by disdain for humanity, that's going to be a problem.
@@jens-kristiantofthansen9376 Small steps, I'll be okay. Thank you for reading.
@bubblegum bruxayou're not always right, but you might as well be. Most human care is conditional. The care that isn't is probably born of a mental illness. It's just that sometimes, these conditions are not so cut-and-dry as "I want money," or "I want attention."
The best proof of this is how humans scorn machines. You see, a condition is not being met between humans and robots on some level. For some, it's their ego. They do not want to believe, accept, or live in a world where they are outperformed by a machine. For others, its instinctual. They do not respect robots because they do not conform to their strict tribalist standards for behavior, and are put off. And then there's appearance. They simply do not like how these machines look, they're not human enough, or too human, or subject to some other arbitrary imperfection they have. What truly matters is they're different.
I always see the same arguments again, again, and again. "This machine does not show 'human' intelligence," and "this machine will never outperform a human! You've all you've fooled, this machine is much dumber than it appears," when the machine is instantly making pictures from references with simple text input, something a human artist would take minutes or hours to do. I firmly believe the first self-aware machine will be subject to this human bullshit, for the better or worse.
Which is why I agree with you, 100%.
I have another story about my mom, nurse retired for ivalidity, the gist is a lifelong terrible diet, hidden hearth defect and terrible shifts in the hospital permanently ruined my mother's health. For the cases where heavy physical labor is required such as lifting and carrying people or corpses we should always use robots.
Back in the eighties there were programs that were supposed to take verbal commands. Didn't work too well back then, but today it works pretty well.
If the room is quiet and you don't have a cold etc. Still got a ways to go. I think man will be walking on Mars before we see humanoid robots that function well enough to go out in public.
If the missions to mars happens around 2024-2030. We wont see humanoid robots just going around completely autonomously and intelligently. maybe intelligent enough to have very simple verbal communication. We will probably see more specialized robots, in less common places, like labour jobs helping picking heavy things up, or for people who have mobility problems.
@@amazingsoyuz873 I think the idea of launching and landing humans on board a Starship is kind of ridiculous, even without the flip maneuver, which would be very hard on meat and brains. If something goes wrong, that's a lot of bodies splatting on the pavement and a PR nightmare. My prediction is they use something like crew Dragon to taxi to and from Starships in orbit, which would be fueling while human and other cargo is boarding. Safety and comfort aside, it doesn't make sense (to me, anyway) to launch a fully-crewed Starship from a planetary body, only to leave the humans waiting in orbit - consuming precious air, water and food - while the fueling takes place.
@@amazingsoyuz873 Well that shat all over what I was expecting to witness in my lifetime.
@@ontheruntonowhere Check out Mars Direct 3.0 on Angry Astronaut on yt, the mini starship that requires less fuel sounds a lot like Crew Dragon.
@@amazingsoyuz873 Im no elon fan i was just using the 2020s launch as the earliest possible launch time frame, even though its unlikely. In my personal honesty i am expecting to see AI / robotics be far more advanced sooner then any tech bros space dreams. AI is far more versatile and would just make more sense all around to develop then a home that gives you cancer. AI will probably be generally intelligent by the time, Elon’s big boy dreams are even a quarter done.
Thank you Joe, you always do a great job at explaining stuff in a clear, and pretty unbiased way. Obviously you have some biased, but your good at keeping your opinions seperate from the facts. We need more people like you Joe.
I try... :)
I've only watched the intro but I'd say that the biggest theoretical advantage of humanoid robots is that they'd be able to use our tools without any special compatibility being programmed. Everything we use is designed for human use so naturally it follows that the most general purpose robots would be able to directly imitate hand manipulation in particular.
They actually are calling it:
“Optimus Sub-Prime” 😂
Sub-prime for sure lol
its probably being programmed to help Elon continue to manipulate the crypto market so when the feds come to charge him for all the illegal stuff he's doing out in the open he can blame it on a robot.
@@michaelfried3123 👉🤡
“Big ridiculous and impossible tasks that would probably never work…”
I think that’s written somewhere at SpaceX, Tesla, Neuralink, and the boring company.
In fact, I think it describes every one of Elon Musk's companies.
As long as success is one of the possible outcomes.
@@CorwynGC Yes, just as Elon would say.
i liked it when he invented tunnels and how he's gonna kill a whole bunch of people getting to Mars so that he can eventually go there and get over his divorce.
balance = falcon 9 landing in droneship (kinda)
vision = tesla's fsd (also the brain)
battery = tesla's new battery
articulation = neuralink??
@@madtech5153 I have all those abilities as does LeBron james. My abilities do not translate onto a basketball court like LeBron.
Likewise, the abilities of the various musk companies will not translate to a robot.
Sorry, your savior is a fraud.
I'm only 9 minutes in, and I already love this video. Thanks, Joe. Smashing the top-quality content... again!
Hehe, thanks!
I know we always concentrate on the robot aspect, but I work in manufacturing and all of our machines are CNC (Computer Numerical Controlled) now. So in a sense this is robotic manufacturing. Many of the new machines can make adjustments on their own and even change tools when they've become worn. Automotive welding used to be dangerous and arduous, but now all of that is "automated." Is a drone technically a robot? So many questions... Thanks for covering this and so many of these other cutting-edge subjects.
You have hardwired non-mobile "robots"... Tesla humanoid robot is going to be mobile robots that might be "automated (instinctive)" and self learning units like humans.. We learned (instinctively) how to do things like walk as a child but we mostly learned how to apply walking in different situations by our own needs, like run to keep up with big sister, or run away from "scary" things...
Tesla is designing/giving their robots body parts that mimic or replicate human physical characteristics like "true" human hands and "actuator motors" like human muscles... Their own FSD system and training computers will give them their "instinctive" navigational capacity, but, they will have the extra capability to get OTA Update or maybe "adult" guidance from home if it needs any...
Bicentennial Man
Richard Martin (Sam Neill) buys a gift, a new NDR-114 robot. The product is named Andrew (Robin Williams) by the youngest of the family's children. "Bicentennial Man" follows the life and times of Andrew, a robot purchased as a household appliance programmed to perform menial tasks. As Andrew begins to experience emotions and creative thought, the Martin family soon discovers they don't have an ordinary robot.
In the end, "He" Andrew, the robot, died as a human....
Maaan, the pressure thing is amazingly complex. I lost all touch and feeling in my left thumb due to a sawmill accident. I just don't have the same dexterity in the left hand as before. It's sad and fascinating at the same time! I still got my thumb though... I just don't feel it.
I think the problems the Boston dynamics robot has shows how unlikely it is Tesla has that figured out out of nowhere
I think Tesla has a far better handle on AI and navigating in the real world. Vision is the key to this and Tesla are waaaay ahead of the pack.
@@jeffjames3111 balance is the bigger issue, which they have 0 experience in, it's a complicated combination of body proportions and movement capabilities.
That's what I was talking about. It's ridiculous to think they have a solution to it while the most advanced humanoid robot on the planet still can't jump without outtakes.
Note that Tesla has "figured things out" before?
Like landing a pencil line object on a moving ship...... From space.
@@TheB0sss funny enough balance is not a problem. You start with a 3d model with the known properties of your robot. Then you throw an AI on it for a few 1000 cycles and your have already surprising stable balance. Then you put this model into the robot, let him try with it and gather "real data" from it. With this new data you go back to the AI model. rinse and repeat.
Tesla has an extremely powerful AI for that. Looking for AI day.
@@Znegil thanks for confirming you have no idea how ai works.
They have an unfinished autonomous driving ai, which has nothing to do with balancing.
I take issue with the comment that humans "intuitively" know how much pressure or force is required to manipulate an object. That is a LEARNED ability, the process of which begins as an infant (think of a baby smacking itself in the face with a toy). Moreover, it's an ability that is subject to constant refinement and retraining, as should be obvious upon contemplation. Professional athletes that use equipment are pristine examples of this.
Joe, you also have an excellent point of the foolishness of trying to perfectly replicate the human form, which industrial automation robotics engineers figured out decades ago. Build the robot for the best form to complete its intended tasks, rather than trying to build one that can do a little of everything like humans. As generalists, we have an inherent prejudice favoring other generalists, but when logically evaluating tool development, that prejudice needs to be realized, understood, and immediately discarded.
I don't know ,I wouldn't give up my multi-tool, my generalist device of my pocket, and any tool that helps me make more tools is a good tool.
@@petevenuti7355 How good is that pocket multi-tool at hammering? Thanks for making my point for me, even though I don't believe that was your goal.
@@dionh70 works for small nails, used it as such today, and if I don't have a hack saw(yesterday) , the file works, if I don't have a punch or awl the tip of the pliers work(Friday)...got locked in a art gallery once after closing, I got one door open, another off the hinges, then I removed a window from it's frame to get out, I'm glad I had it with me ..(few years ago). From playground to pizza place(my son got his head stuck), that handy dandy saved more than my neck often enough. Carrying a large tool box would be frightfully inconvenient , suspicious, even dangerous for both normal and unusual situations.
Of course, for when you can plan ahead, like you're job, you can have a better tool, but for when you can't or you just don't have a TARDIS for a pocket, versatility and adaptability reigns supreme.
On grasp being a learned ability I just got a mental image of an infant picking up an apple and squeezing it until it bursts. Thank god we are born with shitty tiny little muscles.
There are times when you want technology which has more generalist applications. Take a smartphone for example, it's a phone, a watch, a camera, flashlight, sound recorder, gaming device, music player, camcorder, map, notebook etc. It's not the best device for most of these things but it does them well enough that a lot of the time the convenience and cost saving is worth the performance tradeoff. It did take a long time for mobiles to reach that point however.
Of course a specialized robot will always be better at their specialized task but depending on the task it's not always going to be worth spending millions on R&D or buying expensive machines or halting production while you wait for them to arrive when a more generalist machine could do a job which is good enough.
If humanoid robots can be mass produced to the point where they cost say $25,000 and be trained to do a wide verity of task there would be a huge market for them. Even if they don't perform on the level of a human they can work around the clock without pay or holidays. I don't know how long it'll take for generalist robots to reach this point but if they do they'll be economically viable.
As an aside yeah I agree you wouldn't want to perfectly copy humans, you might as well allow the head, wrist and torso to spin a full 360 for example and some structures could be simplified but a humanoid form makes sense as a starting point because they'd be operating in environments designed for people.
For a "science explainer" channel, this was amazingly in-depth, Joe. Good job!
So glad you mentioned
Number “Johnny” 5!
My childhood (mid 90’s kid) this was by far my favorite movies. And the creators went and made Tremors!
"No disassemble Johnny 5"
"Ste-fan-eeee!"
Yeah, I loved that movie, having Ally Sheedy (from WarGames and The Breakfast Club) as Stefanie was a bonus.
Sadly it'll probably never be on TV ever again since Fisher Stevens wears brownface and does an OTT Indian accent in it. 😢 Buy the DVD before they burn them all!
And the Indian guy from Short Circuit went on to be the bad guy in Hackers (an awful movie… but young Angelina Jolie is pretty awesome)…
8:33 You're right, building robots to look cool in their own way is the way to go, not human like. They made the same decisions for the Hero Arms (by the awesome robotic prosthetic company open bionics) and the result is that kids get to show off their "cool mechanical arm" instead of the "weird thing that tries to look human."
Anything should be capable. Just as long as many options exist. Unlike the bland one-size-fits-all characterless tech we have today.
The '80s are from the future. Even the synthwave music still sounds futuristic.
You could say the '80s are Back to the Future:)
A lot of neurological conditions can affect the pressure levels needed to hold things well. It's hard to imagine how devastating it is until it happens. Would never have thought it'd make sense to have a Service Dog follow me around to largely just pick up everything I drop. It's shocking how much it can affect a person's quality of life.
But yeah, that's an extremely important thing to balance which many take for granted, previously myself included. Cool that you've helped more ppl understand this sort of thing better. ✌️♥️
I think a huge part of making general purpose household robots successful includes having features that allow users to teach robots how to do things the way the user likes them done.
If I could show a robot exactly how I like everything done one time, and then I can just tell it go.... ah, yes, please!
We all have a way of folding clothes where there’s very specific rules about it, some pieces are folded differently and it’s hugely annoying when it’s not done right. Impossible to teach. 😥
@@Hamachingo
Socks go this way, shirts that way, these specific pants go here, those shorts go there, etc.
Just connect a robot to a wifi and have the general knowledge somewhere else like a server "i can see it already, so much privacy violations but then again. FOR SCIENCE.". Need to fold a suit "Downloading data . . . . . . ." ping it knows how to do it. Need to know how to shoot an AR "Downloading . . . . . . " ping. Ammo insufficient. Need to know how to mow my lawn "Downloading . . . ." Ping. Error Error virus detected. Virus name "W4rcr1m3s" initiate crusade initiate crusade burn heretics. Package downloaded, need more AMMO.
Edit: Oh don't forget about microtransactions. 20$ to download Fold Clothes. It's expensive coz it's gonna download alot of data from whatever clothing your have so lots of data. Then government will regulate the prices coz yeah capitalism. Then they MIGHT use it for homeland security and spy on us, a moving camera and microphone "an FBI's wetdream of hardware".
The fun thing is that this is not that crazy.
I'm an engineering student and I just did an assignment on Transfer Learning for Machine Learning algorithms. This is where you could import a thoroughly trained AI algorithm that's already been taught how to do something like fold clothes, and you could modify the end pieces of that existing model to slightly alter the "outputs" of the Machine Learning model. It would be the same as a person already knowing how to pick up clothes, make them straight, how they react to gravity, essentially the basics. Then it would only need to learn how to re-apply that. (For my assignment I taught a model that already knew how to analyse 1000 different obhects in images to distinguish between 5 different species of flowers with a setup that honestly was not that difficult and worked really well.)
My point being: Given that the base systems are in place, making slightly altered variations to a machine learning algorithms the way they function in the modern day is very doable and this feature exists already in a slightly more crude form.
To be fair there are already Japanese robotic closets that fold your clothes when you put them in 😅 so unless you mean humanoid robots, the folding clothes thing already happened haha
I'd have liked to see my people in the tropics being free before the times of robot servants and human spacers.
Neocolonization is real man. Do check out Agnotology.
@@jose.montojah well you just hit me with a dose of sad all the sudden out of nowhere - what colony of people in what tropics are you referring to?
I've always thought that Japan would invent the most humanoid robot because Astro Boy and some other famous robots caught the heart of the nation.
They have, it's made by Honda. The Tesla robot is a thing that's never going to happen. Telsa have pretty big record of saying they're going to do something, then not do it.
@@jackedrussell plus they haven't done anything with robots. Look at boston dynamics, they've been working on them for decades.
Japan have tons of robotics tech. Don't believe the hype of Elon Musk who is no more than a modern day North Pole salesman that sells ice cubes and people buy it.
Japan doesn’t take risk and innovate right now it seems, it’s mostly zombie co at that point, and heck the infrastructure is pretty good but still look like stuck in the 90´s.
Acceptance for robots is unusually high in Japan. I work in a museum with robots and one of our guests gave me an interesting idea why that is. He said, that in Japanese culture and Shintoism especially it is common to assign identity and even personality to objects.
Great discussion and actually really enjoyed the ad at the end, didn't feel annoying, which is truly an ART ... thanks, Joe
I feel like the TeslaBot was a distraction from some labour controversy but I can't remember which one it was.
Probably, one of the few things Elon can actually do today rather than some undetermined future date is piss off his employees.
Musk is dead serious about this product and expects it to have a revenue equal or greater than the automobile division.
Sounds like it worked lol
@@billweberx totally agree. People said reusable rockets were an impossibility and Elon made it happen
Elon is a fraud who takes credit for everything that his employees do.
my dog literally turned and growled at the computer when you mentioned robots caring for dogs.
Another interesting episode - thanks.
Just got my Henson razor and really like it. Appreciate the 100 blades on you.
I think they made a practical turn. So I have a room a which is amazing , a lawn mower and I literally never have to mow my lawn anymore and my tesla lets me relax on the way to work.
They are here but just not as we anticipated 40 years ago. And they are very helpful.
Looking at Hermes, I wonder if anyone is taking an approach involving a decoupled brain. Evidently, there is enough bandwidth available to make logic decisions and take action with low enough latency to get meaningful results. Having a robot's brain on a server somewhere separate from the sensors/body would help a ton with battery life and weight/size restrictions.
Motors are generally the biggest draw on power. Processing has actually reduced quite a bit in required power over the years, but still depends on the available space in the robot, heat dissapation, processing power required for the task, etc.
Makes enormous lag. That is exactly why Nobody is doing remote car autonomy
@@635574 Lag would not be that big of an issue since the server would be right in your home where the robot operates.
Had the same thought about 10 years ago and still think it is a good idea. It would not only reduce weight and power consumption but would allow for much larger computers without the worry of miniaturization. I don't believe that lag would be an issue as the other poster asserts since the brain would be located in your home and wireless data transmission over short distances has negligible lag.
Another benefit would be it could be directly linked to a multitude of sensors throughout the house reducing the need for most sensors on the robot itself. Those sensors would feed into the main brain creating a virtual representation of every nook and cranny of the house within the brain. The robot itself would also be represented within the VR sim running on the brain with the outputs to the actual robot mimicking the actions of the vr robot operating in that vr environment.
When I was a little kid in the 80s, my family built a Heathkit HERO robot. Don't recall it too well other than the fact I was underwhelmed. Once we were done playing with it my father donated it to the high school. I didn't know this until I ran across it in a storage closet as a student there years later. Serious deja-vu-esque feeling.
I still have all of my heathkit robots. They were very helpful in my education and career.
I built a Ham Radio Transceiver the HW-12, 80 meter band, 180 watts PEP. Still have it. i started it at 12 yrs old. It worked the first time fine.
My father was a professor at the College of Cooper Union in NYC (engineering college) and they had a Hero One with the arm that was mostly used during open house days. It was supposed to roam the hallway but it didn’t even manage to do that. It was pretty worthless. Yet at least it was available. There aren’t any robots of that size that I know of today that you can build and program yourself. At least none that are mass produced.
You dropped the ball on this one Joe. Having assistant robots in our homes has nothing to do with making them as humanoid as possible. If we had robots on wheels that looked like boxes they could still be good household assistants IF they could understand us properly and were general enough to handle any task or learn them. It's all about the OS. If we had mastered that, we would already have robots in our homes. Instead the industry puts a lot of focus on developing the mechanical abilities of robots instead of the overarching OS.
Still, I have a lot of hope that personal assistant robots are not too far off. Although fully autonomous cars are still not a thing, there have been stories of tests done where AVs have driven across county. And what is an AV if not a sort of robot, and one that can handle general situations. That sort of technology could be adapted to a robots OS to help it with pattern recognition and evaluating what best action to take. I think it makes perfect sense for Tesla to branch into robotics.
You remind me so much of my college computing teacher who I had huge respect for. So I can't help but hang off every word you say. But you present it all very well, great channel and videos
Really interesting and entertaining video! I was just a tiny bit disappointed that you didn't mention my favorite part of the brain: the cerebellum! It's literally at "the back of our heads," and does an awesome job at finetuning our muscle movements.
I can't believe you missed mentioning Bicentennial Man with Robin Williams...
If Tesla (and other companies) were being honest about the true timeline for their robotics projects, I reckon they would lose a lot of consumer and investor confidence. I know that's how the game is usually played, but it's amazing how this field has managed to play that game for over two decades.
I agree that a lot of the, "It will happen next year" is hype for investors BUT in the case of SpaceX and Elon Musk what seemed like total BS at the time suddenly became a reality within 5 years. The landing and re use of Falcon 9 boosters was almost universally proclaimed IMPOSSIBLE by the rocketry community.
Last week a Falcon 9 re-used a booster for the 13th time. This year Elon has stated that there will be a TeslaBot prototype on display in September 2022. If it can wash dishes, hoover and clean and help me out physically (disabled) without ripping an arm off then sign me up.
That people invest in a project where they show a dude in a costume as a robot is the bigger problem.
@@johnsmith-ky5qg I agree that there are places where Musk's companies have delivered beyond what was expected but there are plenty of examples where they have disastrously underdelivered, too.
Yes, if we can have robots making a difference to people's lives, I'm all for it too. But as Jeff notes, so far we've seen 'a dude dressed up as a robot' which somehow suggests a less than promising level of development.
@@johnsmith-ky5qg that's not true though. NASA knew that vertical landing was possible for a long time. Elon didn't invent that shit. nor was he the one who made it a reality. he just had lucky investment and existed at the right time and humanity for it to become easy
@@clown134 Seriously? Elon was just lucky. It wasn't just a question of landing a rocket upright, it was keeping enough fuel in the rocket after delivering a second stage to orbit, then controlling the descent through the atmosphere and lastly being able to precisely cancel the landing speed to less than 1 metre per second just seconds before landing. Of course Elon didn't do everything by himself but he had the vision and self belief to pour everything he owned into the project. Please watch some of the technical videos about WHY SpaceX has been revolutionary before writing it all off as luck.
Wow 😮 this is the FIRST time that I am actually paying attention to a sponsor announcement. Well done sir, well done!!! If many are left as impressed as me by the level of details explaining how that razor works , Henson is definitely going to see a nice bump in new customers.
I somehow just only now, discovered your channel a few months back, and ever since I've binged as much of your content as my consciousness has allowed! I love your delivery your humor along with your introspective musings mixed in with the bare facts and info relating to the most interesting discoverys and knowledge; it's all just 🤌 chefs kiss perfect, for my brain! Thank you and your team, for producing such great content, and I hope it continues for a long time to come! All the best! 😊
Hey thanks!
There's actually five areas, one you eluded to throughout... intelligence, or rather computation. We need smart AI in order to do most of these things. It's arguably the most important part of all five.
I love my Roomba - named it Rosie. I am hoping that technology keeps bringing in new and interesting ideas. Engineering isn't my cup of tea, I'm more of an analyst lol Glad to have found your channel - rock on!
ours are called Benson and Hazel!
Indeed. Doing things is also not my thing!
@@marccpaige Aww, you might have lots of little Roombas one day, like in *batteries not included.
I LOVE that you referenced Red Dwarf!
One of the things about robots that makes me nervous is the idea of artificial intelligence. The idea of a learning robot with unlimited capacity for intelligence is frightening. One term that has always stuck in my mind is from the Firestar series of books by Michael Flynn. He presents the concept of "Artificial Stupid". Essentially this is a construct that has a finite purpose and excels at it in the extreme. ex. Autopilot, personal assistants, voice recognition. I do believe that artificial stupid has its place in home automation, menial tasks, computation-intensive activities, etc.
We were all "taught" what was good and bad as we were growing up.. now if robots (AI) can learn, then it should be able to learn on its own learn what is good and what is bad as a child, as a toddler, teen, adult and old age... in other words, it can become human, good and bad... or do we really want slaves?
That's called an expert system. They are already in fairly widespread use.
The closer we get to actual human like robots the more scary it seems.
20:58 - I think we'll see people walking on Mars long before we see robots folding our clothes. Joe nailed the reason at 14:35 when he said, "The sensation part is the kicker." In fact, Karel Čapek, the author of R.U.R., and the guys who wrote the screenplay for Blade Runner got it right: biological is better. Their "robots" weren't mechanical. They were meat, artificial life forms. The androids in the Alien films appeared to be at least partly meat, too. Biobots would probably be easier to make. The biggest problem with them is a matter of ethics, not technological feasibility.
You see the neuralink with a monkey playing pong with its mind? A monkey could hypothetically be taught how to drive and be given crazy stimulants to always want to drive as best as possible. Ethics and stuff.
I can fold clothes with thick gloves on. Sensation isn't that important if you have vision and can predict the movement of the cloth based on how it's moving in reaction to the force you're exerting on it. Even then most of the time when I'm folding things I end up doing each fold twice simply because I got it wrong and I don't like having things folded up wrong out of sight in the linen cupboard where neatness doesn't even matter.
well the timeframe for mars was 2029 if spacex can hit their window but i assume it will probably be off afew years, folding cloths in the home from a humanoid robot i figure would probably be around 2030 to 2035, so around the same time i figure, these are rapidly progressing fields so it can be hard to really perdict though. Elon also mentioned 2030 timeframe for tesla bot for households, prototype hoping this year and then get it in use in factories and iron it out over the next several years before any mass produced model would be built.
If you ignore economics and supply/demand then that might be the NEXT reason this won't happen any time soon. I don't get how people think that as soon as useful humanoid bots are developed they'll be able to afford one and the first concern of the manufacturers will be to program them for household chores.
@@KalisaFox yeah cause Elon's timeframes are never off
12:40 funniest bit XD "Next year"
There was a robot torso that could fold clothes (slowly) a few years ago. (2015 or so). But, it was stationary, and could do less than some top of the line cooking robots you can get now. So, to be “that guy”, what, exactly do you mean by a robot that can fold clothes? Do you mean a Rosie the Robot housekeeper, that can do dishes, wash, fold, and put away clothes, as well as vacuum and clean the floors? I think we’re closer than we think… less than 10 years, for at least “ basically adequate” that can do a couple varied tasks.
I think Mars is 15-20. I think the moon/Artemis missions is going to teach us a LOT, mainly, that we are nowhere near ready for Mars. I expect we will have a couple fully automated “there & back again” missions to Mars, before we would consider sending humans. Which would be AFTER we gain the needed expertise of humans living on the moon. (My main justification for the upcoming lunar missions is primarily as an exercise is keeping humans alive on the surface of another planet/surface, without needing medical, mechanical or supply missions. 4-5 days for supply or evacuation is a far cry from the multi-month transit to/from Mars.
I also think that having humans spend a couple months on the lunar surface, to get an idea of how the body reacts to extended exposure to reduced gravity is essential.
Given that we will be lucky to have short term visits to the moon by 2026, I don’t expect longer term lunar missions to happen until 2030-2033. And getting all that lernin’ done, and Martian automated missions done before 2035 is a pipe dream. I’m expecting humans on Mars by… maybe… 2038?
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2038 might be about when we walk on Mars. A useful general-purpose humanoid robot will take longer than 2038.
A humanoid that can walk around, maneuver anybody's house, use any kind of door handle, climb stairs, walk around on any type of surface that we walk on, clean the house, do dishes and laundry, go shopping, fetch tools, tend the garden, be a grunt on a construction site, empty the garbage, work in a factory, etc., is way beyond current state of the art.
This kind of robot is not possible in the next decade, very likely not in two decades. The hands won't be good enough, nor the balance, nor the vision recognition of everyday-objects; the batteries will be a problem too. Understanding language accurately is also more than a decade out.
Elon is simply full of shit on Optimus. He'll need to solve full AGI and install it into a mobile robot to have it walk around and do valuable grunt work. It's probably more than 1000x harder than FSD, and I doubt he'll get that in ten years with only eight cameras and no HD maps.
@@charliedoyle7824 I agree that a near 100%human analog is unlikely, buy my thoughts are a "good enough" version. Think of rhe home robot from the old movie "Runaway" with Tom Selleck and Gene Simmons to know what I'm referring to.
It doesn't need to play piano, deal a deck of cards, or darn a sock. It just needs to push a vacuum, (or be part vacuum/roomba) wash dishes/put them away, do laundry, and similar basic housecleaning. I think this is feasible by 2030. I also bet it will be on wheels/casters for the start. Climbing stairs while being small and agile enough to navigate a house, the occupants, etc, will take longer as well
Or, as is being pushed in Japan, strong and gentle enough to carry/lift/help walk an elderly person.
@@jmacd8817 I think you have it backwards.
Doing basic housecleaning is fantastically difficult for a robot. In robotics, engineers have long known that everyday tasks that we find simple are impossibly difficult for robots, and stuff like memorizing the encyclopedia are easy for computers but for impossible for us.
To be good enough at housecleaning, or yard maintenance, to be worthy of a $50k price tag (which is less than initial models would be, but about what a mass-produced robot might be), the robot will have to be pretty good at enough tasks like cleaning an entire bathroom or kitchen, doing dishes and laundry, and putting everything away that's laying in the yard. Those are waaaaaay harder than just walking up and down stairs and opening doors safely. A robot maid will have to recognize and understand at a human level everything it looks at, be able to manipulate objects with their hands as well as we can, and have a general sense of where everything is in every house and area it operates. That's basically AGI, a machine with 'common sense' that's able to think in general terms enough to understand our world. Tesla's FSD car can't even determine which lane to be in, and often can't tell the difference between a lane and the shoulder, after constant training on lanes for over five years. And FSD cars can't remember anything from previous trips.
Huge fundamental breakthroughs are needed to train a robot to walk around our world and recognize what it's looking at and how to do general tasks like a human, and to have anything like a good human hand. Optimus will still be a silly stage prop by 2030. I'll be surprised if there is a decent robot maid by 2050.
"As our population ages there is only going to be more demand for robot caregivers." And, here I am already a caregiver, ready to be turned into a robot. Hurry up, robolution.
As to your question near the end:
I think that'll be a tight race. I think the prototypes for low-intensity task robots will be getting ready just as the first colonizers will be en route.
However, if you're asking for a General Purpose household bot - no, clear win for the Mars Colony.
Nah, not tight at all. Robots will not care what they are doing. People will care they are going on a one way trip.
There is a clear path to Mars, neural networks simulating human intelligence is uncharted territory.
I remember another "Robot" series from my youth, it was a UK TV series called "Metal Mickey" ran from 1980-1983 (39 episodes)
Remembers the tale: The Emperor's New Clothes. Still amazes me how many get played into believing in this Bot vaporware, that looks as a marketing stunt to boost the Tesla stock up. Many don't really understand how hard and expensive it's to develop a functional biped robot. And it will be far from affordable. It's like the "Hyperloop" aka glorified paved tight tunnel.
Yeah, I guy in leotards dancing around us as far as the king of pump and dump
@@markhoerner2354 showing a prop that looks like a mannequin, prioritizing form over function, and a person dancing in a spandex suit instead of a working prototype, should been a red flag for many including the Press.
Wow! Musk "fails" (and even that isn't certain yet!) one project and suddenly he is a failure!
Hell, even Tesla never makes a bot, that they try is still better than not taking the risk, like so many other companies who pretend like it is the 80s still! Musk at least tries, hell many others would have taken the cash from the sale of PayPal and would have never touched a corporate project again, just investing the money, buying a yacht and living the good life!
@@RogerM88 Yet even this video is called "Tesla's Robot Revolution
" even tho Tesla among all the examples is the only one with nothing to show for it.
I think specialist robots would be better than generalist robots based on humans, but then you would need 40 different robots, lol.
Life-like robots feel like a big waste of time when we don't even have practical robot-like robots yet. A basic facial expression system on a screen would work just fine. The real problem is natural, reliable vocal communication. Siri isn't going to cut it. And, you know... adaptable AI in general.
thats the thing, comunication is the most important thing for humanoid experience; similar to how JARVIS (before vision) has a sarcastic tone that makes it more like human even though he didn't have any form of body
One way to have practical robot like robots is to build new robots and try out new ideas, instead of just building more specialized robots that are designed to do one thing over and over very efficiently
@@user-be1lo1ef6m Well even before that, like... we've yet to reach FUNCTIONAL conversation, let alone a natural, human-like conversation. AI right now can't really think like a human. Anything besides a directly programmed command is very hit-or-miss.
What do you mean by "practical robot-like robots"? Industrial robots are very practical an have seen widespread use since the 1970s, but that's obviously not what you have in mind. Is it the sci-fi trope of a moving metal box you can talk you?
Futurism is not about seeking improvements, but about fulfilling childhood fantasies.
LOL, at first I thought you were showing a clip from Chopping Mall!!!!
Alexa is arguably a general purpose robot. Albeit an immobile one.
I honestly can imagine a humanoid robot freely moving around a house in the future, I think it’s just too impractable and wouldn’t work. I think a much more practical and realistic design that would solve 75% of the problems would be a ceiling mounted cart robot with arms and cameras on the bottom. It would move across the ceiling on rails, and extend down to complete tasks, and be able to retract back up to get out of the way of people and things.
We almost had a robotic clothes folder. Foldimate. They were demoing at CES in 2019. Unfortunately they went out of business.
Foldimate didn't look like Rosie tho... That's probably why it went out of business now that I think about it. ;-)
Good video, but seems unfair to completely ignore that FSD is beginning to be able to drive on purely vision. (Also, first advertisement I've ever directly bought something through. I love great engineering, and although the initial price of the razor is a lot, this will save me tons of money over the long run.)
Forget robots! It sounds like Henson Shaving figured out how to CORRECTLY make a blade support!. Specifically, getting the business edge of the blade supported as close as possible to the skin. This has been my major gripe with the majors for decades.
Imagine if Boston Dynamics presented a new concept, using a person dancing in a spandex suit. They would be the laughing stock of the Media. Since is Musk behind it, they take it serious. The Bot for commercial applications as for the household, it's like hammering a nail with a Macbook.
They're learning.
Some laughed at "we're going to make EVs cool"
"We're going to land rockets"
"Biggest factories"
"Castings"
"Really big batteries"
etc.
They're not laughing any more.
@@rogerstarkey5390 so just because some of the claim worked means we have to believe in every single one? Use some common sense. The Bot specs claims, are completely vaporware.
@@rogerstarkey5390 answering your questions:
"we're going to make EVs cool": current BEVs have worse Carbon Footprint than ICEs and are too expensive in average. Also many Governments are pushing for BEVs, to lower their Oil imports and avoid investing into the infrastructure, which a switch for Hydrogen would require;
"We're going to land rockets": For a reason many Rocket companies don't focus in recovering the boosters and second stage, prioritizing efficiency, check Tsiolkovsky's rocket equation. Also the support launching infrastructure and Staff, are way more expensive to maintain than recovering the boosters.
"Biggest factories": Plenty of Automakers have big factories.
"Castings": IDRA, the company that manufactures big presses for castings, can provide other Automakers. Also big casting pieces could mean expensive repairs for the costumer, if the casting piece gets damaged.
"Really big batteries": Tesla don't develop their own battery Cells, relying in other manufactures as Panasonic, BYD, CATL and LG. Tesla it's against the Right to Repair, and been pushing for structural battery packs, that could easily totaled a car if the battery pack needs to be serviced or replaced.
SpaceX been filling LEO with satellites and trash, that could compromise further Space exploration.
The Mars colony concept presented by SpaceX, is a complete Utopian dream, not economical viable.
Starship been showing many design issues, that could mean it be used only for Starlink missions.
Starlink could be shutdown due to high operational costs, and the increase in Fiber Optics network, and 5G cover.
The "Hyperloop", turned into a glorified tight paved tunnel, without Emergency exits along the lines.
So as you can check, there are reasons to doubt of the Bot capabilities starting for it design, prioritizing form over function.
@@rogerstarkey5390 no were still laughing. Musk a non engineer with a minor physics degree is no genius
@@rogerstarkey5390 tell me your still in high school without telling me you are still in high school
The excellent series Love, Death + Robots includes one vignette that's outstanding, featuring a robotic house keeping assistant in a presumed retirement community. Volume 2 Episode 1 "Automated Customer Service."
Okay.. that mini 80s montage featuring stuff I'd completely forgotten about (and I've been down a few 80s rabbit holes before) has made me want to see a Joe Scott series about reminiscing the 70s through 90s!! 😃🤩🙏
If they do ever turn on us, I just hope they are sentient enough so at least some of them will actually stick with us. If every robot is an individual I'd be more comfortable.
I, for one, welcome our robot overlords.
Well impossible an ai become sentient due to we have a lack of understanding of consciousness what if they do develop consciousness, if they see the media like movies that demonize or fear robots they will avoid humans at all cost and build their own society. Plus, they might let some humans in their society unless humans don't have prejudices and fear.
What 'us'? Are we a club now?
I'd give you 100 likes if I could for the Red Dwarf reference. I loved that show. I had really shitty vhs copies recorded off satellite in Canada TV and copied on so-called tape trees (people received vhs tapes in the mail, made x copies-one for themself and the rest for other people for a small fee-, and mailed the videos on to the next person.
I totally remember that robot! I built one in Lego. Even had it move around (on top of a Big Trak)
shout out for the Big Trak!
@@jppendleton yeah i also had that
The idea of intelligent and capable robots with kevlar vitals scares me.
I have my doubts about the usefulness of a general purpose robot. Having a dozen or so robots that do specific tasks I think would be more useful and more cost effective. A cooking robot for example could just be one mechanical arm on a moveable track. Lawn mowing, and vacuuming robots don't need to know how to walk and can just use wheels.
Do we really need a humanoid like creature to take the trash out? why not have a trash can that just takes itself outside when its full.
Why not both!?
Why not both?
Because this brings more clicks on Social Media. Not like Elon will ever deliver it. He's not even really planning to produce it. In this case, the product is- the story about the product.
@@aha6500 , who the hell are you again?
What comes to mind is having 1 robot versus 12 specialty ones. I have no idea how the cost would compare though overall.
Don’t we already have robots that fold clothes? And by “we” I don’t mean consumers that need their laundry folded; I’m talking about commercial launderers and clothing manufacturers. But I checked the web and apparently there was a machine called “FoldiMate” that was introduced at CES in 2018, targeted for (rich) consumers.
You mean women?
@@kodakincade8063 No, Consumers. Unless You're Adamant That Women Should Be In The Kitchen Preparing Meals And Doing For Men All Things Domestic.?. There Are Single Men That Stay Single And Never Marry, And Those That Move Away From Home And Live Single Before Getting Married. Why Do People Keep Assigning Gender Roles To Every Day Tasks.?. It's Not A Women's Thing Or AMens Thing, And Sometimes A No One's Thing Because There Are Some People Who Never Do A Responsible Thing Like Laundry In Their Lives. Stop Assigning Or Assuming That Any Domestic Chore Should Be Done By Women Of Men, If A Person Lives Alone They Should Be Doing Everything They Need Themselves As Such I'm Sure They Do. This Gender Assigned Thinking Is Going To Hold Humanity Back. Who Else Is Going To Want To Deal With Humans %hat Can't Even Agree On The Simplest Task Like Laundry, And Most Likely Why Other Life Outside Of Humanity Doesn't Want To Have Anything To Do With Humans.
@@kodakincade8063 based and robotpilled
@@xMorogothx what?
@@shawngrogan7468 jfc it was a joke you don’t need to write a fn pretentious ass paragraph about how super intelligent you’re portraying to be. Gtfo yourself guy.
LMAO one must be stupid to believe Elon Musk's bombastic claims
Wow this was a good video and its doing well. So is the channel, growing fast. Glad to see it, its been a long time coming.
I think a humaniod robot is far off, but do we need a humaniod robot right now? Why not also work on specialist robots. It would work like any other tech. The rich would get them first, and they'd get cheaper over time. I mean technically we are already doing this with roombas and stuff like that.
I've had a Roomba for at least 10 years, while not perfect, it really does help clean up the fur shed by 2 dogs. It doesn't do corners, at all, but I'm sure there will be progress.
The Russians have a military humanoid robot, who is totally real, notice Putin's reaction : th-cam.com/video/P_CDu1hYXxk/w-d-xo.html
By the way! I have FSD and it works great! While still a few problems it does do an awesome job!
Lol. Delusional...
It works terrifically for me as well.
Glad you like it. I was excited when I got mine enabled yesterday; got to try it out for the first time this morning going to the dentist. It feels like a teen who had just got their learner permit. ;P Looking forward to trying it out some more on freeways and highways…
My ex said I was like an emotionless robot. I guess if you asked her she'd say robots are already among us.
She'd also probably say I'm a moron.. but oh well
Well its a good thing this is your ex.. That is fucked up..
I feel like I'm going to subscribe to you, and only watch this video and then it's going to be like 2 years later, I'm going to look at another video and click on it and be like, oh wow I'm already subscribed.
We already have lots of robots in use today. They aren't, for the most part, human form robots. But you will, for instance, find all kinds of robots in use at automobile manufacturing plants. The Jetson's Rosie the Robot was designed to complete household chores the way a human would do them. Rosie would operate the vacuum cleaner. But today, the vacuum cleaner might operate itself. There are also lawnmowers that will mow the lawn without human operation or perhaps even supervision. In the 1960's some people imagined a future with robot chauffeurs. Instead, we are on the verge of true self driving cars. I think that for the most part, robots of the future will not be human form designed for a wide variety of tasks. Instead, most robots will be designed into automated appliances and tools. The one area I see human form robots being used would be as companions. I think we are far away from a time when people would see a robot as an appropriate nanny for children. But such robots could be quite useful for lonely seniors or for children on the autism spectrum. Of course someone, probably many someones will design robots for sex. That is just human nature.
I dream of the day that we won’t need cars at all. Many European cities are built with dense, mixed-use cores that are easier to walk than anything else. North American cities are largely doomed with single family urban sprawl miles from work, shopping and schools.
@@CarFreeSegnitz Abolish zoning laws and we will naturally gravitate back toward human-friendly city design.
I hope this bot becomes a reality, because when my parents are really gold, I hope to get them a robot nanny to take care of them. They can still live in their own home and have the robot do all the work for them.
Can't wait for relationship robots who substitute human partners. Imagine how cool that would be! The perfect partner, whatever that is to you perfectly.
That is the first Joe ad I've actually watched... ever!
There is ZERO chance that Tesla delivers on this, at most they'll give us some dumb thing that falls short of almost all their promises. It happens with every one of Elon's promise
Mabye Tesa should get a handle on reliably producing cars before they jump all the way to terminators.
Yeah like landing rockets and being the World's largest EV maker.... oh, wait.
I would like to see YOU do better, Andy!
And here come the Elon fanboys...
@@paxhumana2015 I'm not claiming I can. That's the difference
We are not close at all elon is a fraud
This is just another marketing scam by musk.🙄
Yup. It's been 2 years since this video came out.
Where robot?
there is a Robot at my local VA Hospital. It's around 4 feet tall on wheels and it delivers items to offices around the hospital and will talk to people that are blocking the way.
Making wild claims and then making even wilder claims when you can’t deliver on the first while getting investors is the Elon business model
can we all hust agree for a second that tesla bot is exactly the sort of thing that Musk would randomly decide to do BUT as per most of Musks ventures has been launched waaaaaay ahead of him actually having any idea about the how! its his standard M.O . announce something bold to generate intrest, set a ridiculous target to make it sound better than you would have imagined then take a round of major investments to start researching how to do what he just said he would do, yeah in the case of cars and rockets its taken off but then the tech wasn't a million miles off it was just that until then investors had been scarred to put money into something without a clear profit (not everyone is convinced about electric cars viability as anything other than a luxury item) but to secceed with robotics you dont need it just to work you need to beat the competition
tesla lost money every year until like two years ago. his MO applies to tesla as well, they survived on new investors and heaps of government grant money.
"set a ridiculous target to make it sound better than you would have imagined then take a round of major investments?
Tesla isn't raising capital for the bot. Not for anything, actually. It's all self-funded. So you might want to augment your statement.
@@jooptablet1727 occationally they just turn out to be a publicity stunt like the flamethrower, either way he doesnt have anythng to show, right now hes the guy standing at the bottom of the mountain bragging he is gonna get to the top before all the other people even though they are half way up already
@@stevenr6397 wait you think he was "bragging"? What? He announced a project he's very excited about, and asked talented people to please join him and the team. That's it.
@@jooptablet1727 your starting to sound like a fan boy, he announced a project and told you what it WILL do without knowing the how, Boston Dynamics (the leader in the field) did not present a photo of a person when they started claiming thats what they were making, they knew robotics was important and set about making bigger, faster, more stable robots eventually managing bipeds always knowing that whatever tech they made would be applicable in some field, their robots evolved through testing and modification, not publicity stunts
12:55 When I worked for a company I used to do that. I always told my boss, Is going to be ready next week, then next week, then next week. I just kept moving the goal posts.
And whenever he tried to set up a date in stone, I said, that's impossible, I can't do that, I literally can't.