I feel like no one fully understands every single mechanic in HOI and we’re all just collectively doing our favorite thing over and over again hoping it works
Me after losing 3 destroyers in a battle: My navy will never recover from this, its so over already The AI after losing half of their navy in that same battle: I din't hear no bell
Same, i remember when playing italy and i lost 1 heavy cruiser, a few lights and 20 destroyers, i was crushed, but in this battle i singlehandedly destroyed almost all british and french heavy ships and carriers plus a 100 or so light ships
Yeah that’s mainly because you need to build a flexible navy that can recover from taking some losses - basically - you don’t actually truly understand navy, rather ship design and battlefleet composition (trust me, I don’t either).
That’s unironically how Plan Z actually went. The Kriegsmarine was saying, “Okay, we’ve gotten these plans mostly finalized, but we need some time. If we can get until 1945, we’ll have a very useful fleet in being that can both raid the shipping lanes and keep the Royal Navy occupied.” And Hitler kicked off the war less than a year later when almost none of the heavy fleet units had been finished, so the shipyards were dribbling ships into the meat grinder one at a time. Honestly, the only hope they had at that point was the Type XXI U-Boat, which was in my opinion the only true wonder-weapon that the Nazis dreamed up.
@@randomman8086 the new jets and navy was a disaster for 3rd reich in strategic way. do you know how many stugs you can supply to army including munitions fuel crew instead of 1 u-boot? instead of spamming cheap reliable vehicles like stug III/IV they redirect their shrinking resuources to torpedoes/uboats and fuel consumming airplanes/tanks.
actually, i loaded the great war mod, built three battlecruisers as germany and sent them to asia to protect my overseas assets in china. sank entire japanese fleet.
A suggestion for you, just do what I do: - Build a cruiser with lots of light attack - Build another Cruiser with Heavy Attack - Spam ridiculously cheap Destroyers - Spam submarines with lots of torpedoes and put on a snorkel Done :D .
If yall haven’t learned navies yet get on it. I thought I knew what satisfaction was but once I finally got those massive naval victories with countless enemy ship sunk. That was satisfying
@@gottenspider2057 It's quality over quantity. Focus Capital Ships. Battleships take out Battleships and Carriers, Aircraft take out Capitals, to prevent your Capitals and Carriers from sinking, make Destroyers and Cruisers, ideally you want to have half of them focused on AA and the other half focused on Torpedo Attack, DO NOT USE SUBMARINES WITH YOUR MAIN COMBAT FLEET, each Carrier needs two battleships to be protected, each battleship needs 4 destroyers to be protected, this is why they're called Screens, they catch Torpedoes. Build as many heavy hitting battleships as you can, armor them up majorly, you do not necessarily need the most modern Chassis, you can modernize a 1936 hull with 1945 armaments so you can retrofit it without having to delete your redundant starting fleet. For Carriers, prioritize deck space ignore armor and armaments besides AA, and build CAS with good defense, do not worry about range, you need hitting power and armor so pack it all in on those aircraft, throw some token fighters in, but make the ratio roughly 20/80 Fighter/CAS, the CAS should be able to hold it's own. Mass produce screens for redundancy and send it out, you may get unlucky and take a few hits on your major ships but if you have enough AA, enough torpedo attack, and a strong core of heavy ships, 2 or 3 Carriers and 6 to 9 Battleships, you'll be set to take on any fleet.
@@gottenspider2057I think where to start is understand how navy position work . Like screening ship at the front of the line mostly to take the damage . capitalship staying behind screen . And Carrier staying behind capitalship. And then you should look up what a screen , capital ship , and carrier. Screen is such light cruiser and destroyer . Capitalship is battleship , battlecruiser and heavy cruiser .
How to navy 1. Mass produce shitty destroyers with nothing but mines on them 2. Find admiral with mine layer trait 3. Fill all sea regions with as many mines as possible when you get into any war 4. Profit
@@warmox1215 yeah there still shit your not wrong but you can literally mine the English channel and sealion it and the ai won't stop you with there navy. Did it twice before the Brazilian dlc dropped so it may or may not work still
I'm 2000 hours in and every game I say to myself "I will learn navy". Then I start building dockyards. 5 seconds later i cancel them. I get to stressed out since i could instead be buildings Military factories to produce more tanks or planes. One day, I will build a navy
Yall im Like 100 hours in, only downloaded it 3 weeks ago and any time I feel like I finally understand air, navy, or land, I find something else to completely blow my mind. Biggest lesson I’ve learned so far? Logistic logistics logistics
@@cedricvanhove7716If you do convoy raiding this is the way, but if you put the big boy torps on you can just use em against the AI on strike force and vaporize capital ships lol.
3 "Fly-Swatter" Cruisers, Followed 12 by AA and Anti-Sub destroyers, guarding 2 carriers with max deck space and radar followed by a Capital Ship with 3 Big guns, 2 dual purpose and a aircraft launcher to achieve 100% screening effectiveness and have some stomping power.
idk why or how but i tried to form Austria-Hungary before playing Germany for the first time. (I have teached myself most of the game by playing Hungary btw)
This time on navy planet In the distance you can hear a wild Karl donitz cry in agony as his U-boat plan was set aside for capital ships as it clashes with its natural predator…the raeder….
I have 4K hrs in hoi4, and i have yet to fully understand the Naval combat mechanics equations. The mere fact that there is no consensus in the community on the best way to approach naval warfare is fascinating.
Just a small tip may help ironically the water terrain can make a huge difference on how effective certain ship may be. For example you have a fleet on the coast if Norway, big ships: Battleships and heavy Battleships will be slower, making them take more damage due to speed, but makes destroyers and cruisers king against any big ship in those regions and in deep ocean regions big ship reign supreme
- Only refit capital ships for small changes like Secondary Guns, AA, Fire Control, and Sonar/Radar. Never for big changes like Main Guns, Engine, and Armor. At that point just build a new ship. - Split Submarines into smaller groups so they're harder to detect, can cover more ground, and so you don't lose them all in one engagement. - Set most of your destroyers to 'Patrol' with a few designated for 'Convoy Escort', and then put all surface vessels larger than Destroyers in a death stack. Set this stack to 'Always Engage', with 'Low Repair Priority', and with 'Automatic Split-Off' on. Then put this stack on 'Strike Force'. - If you're building a navy on a budget, make Cruisers with a single Heavy Cruiser Battery so the game classifies them as capital ships and then fill as many slots with Secondary Batteries as possible so they're also a threat to light ships. Pair this with the 'Surface Raiders' bonus from 'Trade Interdiction' Doctrine and you'll have a ship that pretty much does almost everything.
Interesting. As Germany in Kaiserreich i Always Priorize Heavy cruisers and battleships since the beginning. I've been winning against the brits ever since.
I did that with India, and actually got the Yamato and also the Bismark as well, plus their escorts. Boosted the Indian navy massively, aside from the fact that I was also building my Indian ships as well.
@@Roach18 flashbacks to my last game where the Italian AI inexplicably stumbled across The Secret and dumpstered the French, British, Soviet, American, and German navies all by themselves
Naval connosour here, 1 carrier, 2 battleships, 2 heavy cruisers, 4 light cruisers, 12 destroyers. Build 4 different destroyer models to optimize certain tasks so you can pivot to different functions if needed. Destroyer 1:anti surface Destroyer 2:anti sub, build more of these Destroyer 3:mine layer (put in coastal defensive fleets) Destroyer 4:minesweeper/AA Destroyer (put in offensive fleets like blue water navies)
I had this exact revelation. I was sick of seeing the free naval dockyard thingy so I just put all of them to build convoys now the thingy is gone and I can build more tank
For me, building powerful ships are easy. The hard part is getting into a battle to kill the enemy fleet. Most of the time, they know my fleet is powerful and won't go out of the port. I need to port strike them to make them go out.
3k hours in and ive just learned how to navy properly. its a long asf wait for the ships but my GOD the tension with each battle and the feeling of sinking big ships... its so good. however, martime bombers spamming port strikes is faster and on some devious shi
@@Robertx19 I think super heavy battle ships with two turrets and dual purpose guns might be useful they have high penetration. But I never build them because I think and additional aircraft carriers might just be more useful
If i play as US or UK i mess around with battlecruisers but tbh battleships arent that useful That being said, nobody builds light carriers and theyre surprisingly useful. A 1936 carrier with no upgrades and 50 planes can support a navy and fuck up fleets better than i thought possible
@@GOLDEN-sm3wr Learning about the Second World War has taught me that more is better than bigger. By the end of the war the USA had pumped out over 300,000 military aircraft, or 164 planes per day! One thing you read constantly from accounts taken from German soldiers in Normandy was how shocked they were by the sheer amount of allied aircraft and armor. You'd destroy one tank and 4, shiny new, fresh of the line tanks would roll up to take its place. It was a never ending stream of machines that won the war.
The UI and interface for navies is probably the hardest to read compared to any other paradox game mechanic. So that's why I'll never bother to learn it and always play land/air combat.
To understand navy better, I tried playing World of Warships. Playing World of Warships made me want to unlock subs in WoW. Wanting to unlock subs in WoW got me hooked on U-boat history. Being hooked on U-boat history made me want to play U-Boat. Playing U-Boat made me find out about Silent Hunter 3. Playing Silent Hunter 3 made me forget about every other game in existence. One of these days, I'll go back to HOI4 to see if I understand navy now. "It's been 84 years."
@NBH-xh3nq ahh, that's rough! Hopefully there's a fix for that someday. I know the GWX OneAlex crew is working on a massive update in the last couple years so that should be interesting and able to run on most up-to-date hardware, considering the age of the game and mods lol.
I always do the following: One fleet with scout cruisers with just scout planes set on do not engage A second and main fleet with one layer of cheap destroyers with torpedos and anti subs, a layer of light cruisers with medium cannons for that soft attack and the main layer of a few battleships with as much hard attack as they can possibly get This seems to work pretty well for me so far, I wreck the british with barely loosing a few destroyers
It was like god had parted the clouds and shone brightly upon my mind when I finally understood navy. And its still the most difficult part of the game so tedious to research.
Navy is rather simple: 1) Have the sea zone scouted (spotting efficiency 100%, either by ships or by planes) 2) Have a lot of soft attack to eliminate the enemy screens 3) Finish the heavy ships ... Alternatively you can just mine the entire enemy coast and just keep the enemy navy in the dockyard, constantly fixing after those "accidents".
Me, one fine evening playing Germany: *accidentally completes the Graf Zeppelin* “Alright guess I have to do a Germany navy game for the first time.” And from that day forward my life forever changed
After around 2600 hours in the game the most I ever do with navy is load up a submarine with as many torpedos as possible and then multiply it as much as I can
So fun fact the best way to do navy compisition is this For every 1 carrier you should have 1 heavy ship (preferabbly battleships jn atlantic and cruisers in pacific due to speed and range) For every heavy ship you need 3 light ships, (cruisers are more expensive but tend to have higher survivability and damage, however destroyers are cheap and you can spam them) And for Subs just... just get a lot of them with snorkel It is also good to split your navy into 2, and have good scouting cruisers and destroyers so your main fleet can come in to destroy them
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I feel like no one fully understands every single mechanic in HOI and we’re all just collectively doing our favorite thing over and over again hoping it works
Me trying my best to re-form the PLC as Lithuania in RT56:
I mean thats human civilisation in General really
There is the youtuber Reimann, that guy as close it as a person can realistically get.
How dose that quote from farcry go again?
i just click buttons and hope for the best 🫡
I do feel like Oppenheimer now that I understabd Navy, I am become death, destroyer of Navies
Destroyer of destroyers
Soviets already in Berlin , Knock knock !
Untill u play navy on modernday mod
Is it easier???@@ConquestadorExplore
*Until you meet the navy bomber*
Me after losing 3 destroyers in a battle: My navy will never recover from this, its so over already
The AI after losing half of their navy in that same battle: I din't hear no bell
That's me when playing Iraq
Same, i remember when playing italy and i lost 1 heavy cruiser, a few lights and 20 destroyers, i was crushed, but in this battle i singlehandedly destroyed almost all british and french heavy ships and carriers plus a 100 or so light ships
Yeah that’s mainly because you need to build a flexible navy that can recover from taking some losses - basically - you don’t actually truly understand navy, rather ship design and battlefleet composition (trust me, I don’t either).
@@Svabre mate i dont understand what any of those words mean
I just keep on putting more cannons on my ships and it keeps working
@@enternamehere4124 oh yes, the spanish school of naval combat:
muchos cañones = mucho damage
Date: 14 September 1939
Finishing date: October 23 1944
nah its 1955
That’s unironically how Plan Z actually went. The Kriegsmarine was saying, “Okay, we’ve gotten these plans mostly finalized, but we need some time. If we can get until 1945, we’ll have a very useful fleet in being that can both raid the shipping lanes and keep the Royal Navy occupied.” And Hitler kicked off the war less than a year later when almost none of the heavy fleet units had been finished, so the shipyards were dribbling ships into the meat grinder one at a time. Honestly, the only hope they had at that point was the Type XXI U-Boat, which was in my opinion the only true wonder-weapon that the Nazis dreamed up.
@@Shaun_JonesI mean the jets where pretty cool too... even if a bit late
@@randomman8086 The German jets were garbage; each engine needed an overhaul after 10 running hours, and a complete rebuild after 25.
@@randomman8086 the new jets and navy was a disaster for 3rd reich in strategic way. do you know how many stugs you can supply to army including munitions fuel crew instead of 1 u-boot? instead of spamming cheap reliable vehicles like stug III/IV they redirect their shrinking resuources to torpedoes/uboats and fuel consumming airplanes/tanks.
Kaiser Wilhelm gameplay
battle of jutland moment
911 likes
actually, i loaded the great war mod, built three battlecruisers as germany and sent them to asia to protect my overseas assets in china. sank entire japanese fleet.
If it was Kaiser Wilhelm gameplay the fleet would blow up at Scapa Flow
I will never comprehend this video in my entire life. That shit is more complex than the actual nuke.
A suggestion for you, just do what I do:
- Build a cruiser with lots of light attack
- Build another Cruiser with Heavy Attack
- Spam ridiculously cheap Destroyers
- Spam submarines with lots of torpedoes and put on a snorkel
Done :D .
Nuclear weapons aren’t all that complex. The process for getting the nuclear material is.
Thats why you usually have Nukes before even realising the Navy Research Tree exists, every time i forget this tab exists :)
@@Yuki-ol7hf Replying to this comment so I can refer to it later. You're a god
@@Nediac800 Plutonium collapse weapons are that complex, but uranium gun types certainly aren't.
If yall haven’t learned navies yet get on it. I thought I knew what satisfaction was but once I finally got those massive naval victories with countless enemy ship sunk. That was satisfying
How do you learn it? Where to start?
@@gottenspider2057 It's quality over quantity. Focus Capital Ships. Battleships take out Battleships and Carriers, Aircraft take out Capitals, to prevent your Capitals and Carriers from sinking, make Destroyers and Cruisers, ideally you want to have half of them focused on AA and the other half focused on Torpedo Attack, DO NOT USE SUBMARINES WITH YOUR MAIN COMBAT FLEET, each Carrier needs two battleships to be protected, each battleship needs 4 destroyers to be protected, this is why they're called Screens, they catch Torpedoes.
Build as many heavy hitting battleships as you can, armor them up majorly, you do not necessarily need the most modern Chassis, you can modernize a 1936 hull with 1945 armaments so you can retrofit it without having to delete your redundant starting fleet.
For Carriers, prioritize deck space ignore armor and armaments besides AA, and build CAS with good defense, do not worry about range, you need hitting power and armor so pack it all in on those aircraft, throw some token fighters in, but make the ratio roughly 20/80 Fighter/CAS, the CAS should be able to hold it's own.
Mass produce screens for redundancy and send it out, you may get unlucky and take a few hits on your major ships but if you have enough AA, enough torpedo attack, and a strong core of heavy ships, 2 or 3 Carriers and 6 to 9 Battleships, you'll be set to take on any fleet.
@@gottenspider2057забей, делай кукурузники с торпедой и уничтожишь весь флот любой страны
It is literally the most euphoric feeling ever
@@gottenspider2057I think where to start is understand how navy position work
. Like screening ship at the front of the line mostly to take the damage . capitalship staying behind screen . And Carrier staying behind capitalship. And then you should look up what a screen , capital ship , and carrier. Screen is such
light cruiser and destroyer . Capitalship
is battleship , battlecruiser and heavy cruiser .
I literally thought it would end with naval bombers
Frrrrrr
That’s reality
Same. It's like learning to duel with swords when you forget you own a glock
A large fleet with good AA will wreck naval bombers, bomber spam only works on AI
@@thewampire4640naval bombers still deal a lot of damage, they are not useless
How to navy
1. Mass produce shitty destroyers with nothing but mines on them
2. Find admiral with mine layer trait
3. Fill all sea regions with as many mines as possible when you get into any war
4. Profit
Unfortunately mines don't do shit in hoi4
Nah they do. Ai refuses to go into a zone with 40% mines for some reason. Tested it a couple of times the ai will literally just not enter that zone
@@corvuscorax8437 Ah, no wonder why they never sink anything despite filling 100% of the zone with mines.
@@warmox1215 yeah there still shit your not wrong but you can literally mine the English channel and sealion it and the ai won't stop you with there navy. Did it twice before the Brazilian dlc dropped so it may or may not work still
Holy lag
-Right click on water
-Water turn green
-Me invade
This is so relatable, thats exacly how I felt when i started understanding navy mechanics...1000 hours in
Hey man, i have almost 2k hours on hoi4 and don't understand navy, AM i doing good?
@@Zbyszkov2 man same I’m 1.9k hours in and have barely scratched the navy. But I understand the airforce so I just build naval bombers
@@Anonymous-vr6ph 2.2k hours in, i still dont understand navy
I'm 2000 hours in and every game I say to myself "I will learn navy". Then I start building dockyards. 5 seconds later i cancel them. I get to stressed out since i could instead be buildings Military factories to produce more tanks or planes. One day, I will build a navy
Yall im Like 100 hours in, only downloaded it 3 weeks ago and any time I feel like I finally understand air, navy, or land, I find something else to completely blow my mind. Biggest lesson I’ve learned so far?
Logistic logistics logistics
Submarine spam 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥
1940 subs with 1944 torpedoes
@@ronin1915 no all lvl 1 torps 1 snorkel, best engine 2nd hull and ul get the biggest sub navy u want.
❌❌❌
For noobs, try thinking
@@cedricvanhove7716If you do convoy raiding this is the way, but if you put the big boy torps on you can just use em against the AI on strike force and vaporize capital ships lol.
Man's biggest achievment: Figuring out navy
as a new player: navy is a whismical land of clicking on the fleet thing and setting them on strike force, and producing only subs.
I have 1k hours and im the exact same, i just steal ai navy in peace conference
The secret is dual purpose guns
It only guarantee half of the damage to dominate it's entirely.
3 "Fly-Swatter" Cruisers, Followed 12 by AA and Anti-Sub destroyers, guarding 2 carriers with max deck space and radar followed by a Capital Ship with 3 Big guns, 2 dual purpose and a aircraft launcher to achieve 100% screening effectiveness and have some stomping power.
Thousands of years of military strategy and simulations and none of us have figured out the navy 😂
Hoi 4 players can win ww2 as Bulgaria but can’t navy
Speak for yourself, I and a couple others know navy.
Nah, I'll just ask Germany for the blueprints.
u can do that?
@@SenkaBandit Ofc you can its called License Production. I use it to get cheaper tanks when i play a minor power
@@mottenfreak woa das awesome. Maybe I should play this game
@@SenkaBandit 😭😭😭
@@theyouwish9973 consider ur booty mumbled & touched 😂😂😂
"Plan Z! I love you! With this, I'll be able to run Krabs out of business. I'll control the market! I'll rule the world!"
It's even lemon scented
Plan V better
Hoi4's hardest challenge:
Conquering the entire world with the weakiest country for the 784th time ❌
Taking a shower ❌ (almost)
understand navy. ✅
I remember when i was playing as a democratic Germany and i was bored, so i made my navy so strong that i was winning with Britain
idk why or how but i tried to form Austria-Hungary before playing Germany for the first time. (I have teached myself most of the game by playing Hungary btw)
That's an Indonesian flag in your pfp
This time on navy planet In the distance you can hear a wild Karl donitz cry in agony as his U-boat plan was set aside for capital ships as it clashes with its natural predator…the raeder….
"You do not have enough superiority at sea to carry out an amphibious landing".
План Z в 1940:🤬🤬🤬🤬
План Z в 2022:💀💀💀💀
Liberaxa
Paradox : Sh*t! THEY WERE NEVER MENT TO FIGURE OUT NAVY!
I have 4K hrs in hoi4, and i have yet to fully understand the Naval combat mechanics equations. The mere fact that there is no consensus in the community on the best way to approach naval warfare is fascinating.
Just a small tip may help ironically the water terrain can make a huge difference on how effective certain ship may be.
For example you have a fleet on the coast if Norway, big ships: Battleships and heavy Battleships will be slower, making them take more damage due to speed, but makes destroyers and cruisers king against any big ship in those regions and in deep ocean regions big ship reign supreme
This is why as someone with 4.5k hours navy is my favorite. Theres so much room for experimentation since there is no meta
I know quantum mechanics but i dont know navy
If you think you understand quantum mechanics you don't understand quantum mechanics.
Im not in basics@@InternetMameluq
- Only refit capital ships for small changes like Secondary Guns, AA, Fire Control, and Sonar/Radar. Never for big changes like Main Guns, Engine, and Armor. At that point just build a new ship.
- Split Submarines into smaller groups so they're harder to detect, can cover more ground, and so you don't lose them all in one engagement.
- Set most of your destroyers to 'Patrol' with a few designated for 'Convoy Escort', and then put all surface vessels larger than Destroyers in a death stack. Set this stack to 'Always Engage', with 'Low Repair Priority', and with 'Automatic Split-Off' on. Then put this stack on 'Strike Force'.
- If you're building a navy on a budget, make Cruisers with a single Heavy Cruiser Battery so the game classifies them as capital ships and then fill as many slots with Secondary Batteries as possible so they're also a threat to light ships. Pair this with the 'Surface Raiders' bonus from 'Trade Interdiction' Doctrine and you'll have a ship that pretty much does almost everything.
Interesting. As Germany in Kaiserreich i Always Priorize Heavy cruisers and battleships since the beginning. I've been winning against the brits ever since.
BEHOLD, SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS NAVY
ничего не знаю, я его просто ворую на мирных конференциях
Это про игру в MP а не с ботами
@@artik1139 в MP за Германию качать флот? Чувак, это так не работает
@@EineMeine there was a nice and old panzerschiff meta a year ago or so i don't know if it's still available with the new dlc
I did that with India, and actually got the Yamato and also the Bismark as well, plus their escorts.
Boosted the Indian navy massively, aside from the fact that I was also building my Indian ships as well.
Basically what happens when you watch too much Drachinifel
I have strategy called: "
How many destroyers and light cruisers do you want?" "Yes".
That one guy with tons of naval bombers: Hi how ya doin
Destroy your whole fleet that took you five years to built 🤡
Destroyer spam with anti air obliterates naval bombers
Well, you can't sink a fleet of 3 destroyers that exploded a year ago when fighting the Italians
@@Roach18 flashbacks to my last game where the Italian AI inexplicably stumbled across The Secret and dumpstered the French, British, Soviet, American, and German navies all by themselves
Naval connosour here, 1 carrier, 2 battleships, 2 heavy cruisers, 4 light cruisers, 12 destroyers. Build 4 different destroyer models to optimize certain tasks so you can pivot to different functions if needed.
Destroyer 1:anti surface
Destroyer 2:anti sub, build more of these
Destroyer 3:mine layer (put in coastal defensive fleets)
Destroyer 4:minesweeper/AA Destroyer (put in offensive fleets like blue water navies)
Bros going to be getting those ships in 2002
I was born in the Navy, molded by it.
Me playing Navy is just slapping the most expensive modules for each ship and then expecting to finish them
I've become Sneed, feeder of seed
Formerly Chuck's
I am still convinced that not a single person understands how the navy works.
I thought the build up would happen then he would get crushed by the British
Me just making balanced fleets of carriers, battleships, cruisers, destroyers and submarines:
Please work, please work, please for the love of god ...
The secret is having 50+ dockyards
I had this exact revelation. I was sick of seeing the free naval dockyard thingy so I just put all of them to build convoys now the thingy is gone and I can build more tank
You can literally just built up to heavy cruisers and still win most fights. I wish battleships were a bigger deal in this game.
Keiser Wilhelm and Admiral Tirpitz should cry for gaiety of your understanding the navy above us.
АХТУНГ!!!!!! ОН ПЕРВЫЙ КТО РИЛ ПОНЯЛ ФЛОТ В ХОЙКЕ, ЭТО НАДО РАПРОСТРАНИТЬ
I wiped USA 450~ Navy as Germany the moment I understood how they work
ai never refit their ship . all their design are crap so it super easy when you know what navy about.
"So I have become death, destroyer of the fleets"
For me, building powerful ships are easy. The hard part is getting into a battle to kill the enemy fleet. Most of the time, they know my fleet is powerful and won't go out of the port. I need to port strike them to make them go out.
Navy is so fucking fun once you invest the 400 required hours to actually understand it
3k hours in and ive just learned how to navy properly. its a long asf wait for the ships but my GOD the tension with each battle and the feeling of sinking big ships... its so good.
however, martime bombers spamming port strikes is faster and on some devious shi
Bro's got Heavy Battery 3, Armour 3, Battlecruiser Armour 3, Heavy Engine 3, and S-Gerät, but still uses Fire Control 0
That felling when you beat the royal navy the first time man to man, no subs, no planes (besides carriers) is magical
Me understand that making only warships is not a good idea
The secret is fast, cheap ships with max light attack
I'm still in the submarines and naval bombers go brrrrr phase
I always research random navy things while playing as a country with no coastline
How to navy- build only light cruisers. No armor, as much recon and speed as possible. Laugh.
The secret is carriers, cruisers, and a shitton of destroyers and planes.
Maybe battleships if you have the capacity to build them.
So Real
Actually the battleships didn’t change battle outcomes in WW2
@@CrazyHermitVizard I know they were pretty much only for AA and shore bombardment in WW2, but they’re actually decent in HOI4.
@@Robertx19 I think super heavy battle ships with two turrets and dual purpose guns might be useful they have high penetration. But I never build them because I think and additional aircraft carriers might just be more useful
If i play as US or UK i mess around with battlecruisers but tbh battleships arent that useful
That being said, nobody builds light carriers and theyre surprisingly useful. A 1936 carrier with no upgrades and 50 planes can support a navy and fuck up fleets better than i thought possible
Usually i just spam ships until sea zones are green
it's bigger gun = better right? please tell me it's bigger gun = better.
Y e s
1 word BRUHHHHHHHHHH
You will produce this battle ship at the end of ww2 🤡🤡
@@GOLDEN-sm3wr Learning about the Second World War has taught me that more is better than bigger. By the end of the war the USA had pumped out over 300,000 military aircraft, or 164 planes per day! One thing you read constantly from accounts taken from German soldiers in Normandy was how shocked they were by the sheer amount of allied aircraft and armor. You'd destroy one tank and 4, shiny new, fresh of the line tanks would roll up to take its place. It was a never ending stream of machines that won the war.
@@Algernon7 its hoi4, you produce 5 planes in a day not 164
If you truly understand navy you know light cruiser spam with destroyers and if you can a few heavy cruisers is best
Just have better positioning and in most cases you’ll win. I had no idea how simple naval is until I learned that.
Now i am become navy, the destroyer of light cruisers
One day I will know how it feels... 😂
Do I know navies? Hell, I didn't even know you could customize them like that.
"And then he woke up"
The UI and interface for navies is probably the hardest to read compared to any other paradox game mechanic. So that's why I'll never bother to learn it and always play land/air combat.
I understand how navy work by reading description showed in each stat of ship designs. And take sometimes to understand about fleets
To understand navy better, I tried playing World of Warships. Playing World of Warships made me want to unlock subs in WoW. Wanting to unlock subs in WoW got me hooked on U-boat history. Being hooked on U-boat history made me want to play U-Boat. Playing U-Boat made me find out about Silent Hunter 3. Playing Silent Hunter 3 made me forget about every other game in existence.
One of these days, I'll go back to HOI4 to see if I understand navy now. "It's been 84 years."
Silent Hunter 3 is such a great game and still somewhat holds up today with mods. I hope they make silent hunter 6 someday
@NBH-xh3nq GWX OneAlex mod for me, I hear others a great too. The game is sooooo good. Almost the perfect game - almost.
@@justwowmanplays2941 the only thing that bothers me is the fullscreen mod restricts me from switching tabs
@NBH-xh3nq ahh, that's rough! Hopefully there's a fix for that someday. I know the GWX OneAlex crew is working on a massive update in the last couple years so that should be interesting and able to run on most up-to-date hardware, considering the age of the game and mods lol.
And then your whole fleet gets sunk by a bunch of naval bombers.
I didn't expect a Bokoen1 biopic on YT shorts.
Crossing the Atlantic: “He’s beginning to believe…”
I always do the following:
One fleet with scout cruisers with just scout planes set on do not engage
A second and main fleet with one layer of cheap destroyers with torpedos and anti subs, a layer of light cruisers with medium cannons for that soft attack and the main layer of a few battleships with as much hard attack as they can possibly get
This seems to work pretty well for me so far, I wreck the british with barely loosing a few destroyers
HOI 4 players becoming the greatest military tactician known to man just to win as the Netherlands in game.
spamming torpedoes and having screen penetration from spirit of navy is the most broken thing so far
It was like god had parted the clouds and shone brightly upon my mind when I finally understood navy. And its still the most difficult part of the game so tedious to research.
"Impossible"
-Thanos(the average hoi4 player)
Navy is rather simple:
1) Have the sea zone scouted (spotting efficiency 100%, either by ships or by planes)
2) Have a lot of soft attack to eliminate the enemy screens
3) Finish the heavy ships
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Alternatively you can just mine the entire enemy coast and just keep the enemy navy in the dockyard, constantly fixing after those "accidents".
"i have become death, destroyer of the british royal navy"
"I'm the death, the destroyer of seas..."
The first HOI short I’ve gotten on my home feed. Is this a sign? Lol
I am now “Navy Guy”
Navy is the same as planes but just different icons
I literally understand air more than I do land battles
What watching 79cloak navy vids does to a mf'er
It's like knowing what the heck u doing with the ship creator in Stellaris
Endless submarines works for me lol
Naval Combat in EU4: 😁
Naval Combat in HOI4: 👁️👄👁️
Me, one fine evening playing Germany:
*accidentally completes the Graf Zeppelin*
“Alright guess I have to do a Germany navy game for the first time.”
And from that day forward my life forever changed
Naval Bomber. Destroyers w awful guns and great Torpedos in addition with the 3 battlecruisers named balls w only one Gun per ship.
It's a lot easier in Road to 56, you just build aircraft carriers and put as many soft attack you possibly can on your Battlecruisers.
When you realise.🤯
"I become death,the destroyer of world"
We becoming Valéry sablin with this one!!🗣️🔥
Guys for 20 capital ship you need 80 screens, its 1 to 4, a normal fleet size is 100. Or else it will overstack which is not good
When i was playing hoi4 for first time i couldn't even do a naval invasion 😂
After around 2600 hours in the game the most I ever do with navy is load up a submarine with as many torpedos as possible and then multiply it as much as I can
Quick Pro tip: Flooded with Destroyer with naval mine & Topedo and Submarine production,
WERE CROSSING LA MANSH WITH THIS ONE
So fun fact the best way to do navy compisition is this
For every 1 carrier you should have 1 heavy ship (preferabbly battleships jn atlantic and cruisers in pacific due to speed and range)
For every heavy ship you need 3 light ships, (cruisers are more expensive but tend to have higher survivability and damage, however destroyers are cheap and you can spam them)
And for Subs just... just get a lot of them with snorkel
It is also good to split your navy into 2, and have good scouting cruisers and destroyers so your main fleet can come in to destroy them
Play palpitines gamble mod with Hoi4. It’s Star Wars, so it forces you to focus on navy, but it has an easier interface.
I feel like there has to be one person out there who is like this…we just haven’t found them yet…
Using the guy who wanted to nuke Berlin for this is wild