It could be argued that the current direction of technological development is a reflection, if not extension, of the attitudes and value systems that human life currently hold, and that if those attitudes and value systems were to change, the direction of technological development would also change. It's like...we're sitting on a diamond mine of unexercised muscles, and we don't even know what those muscles are.
@@berekkrehmeier8011 he was pretty much rambling on, making a weird analogy between evolution and technology only to finish by saying "1% of good over the years is compounded better than the bad, its progress", it isn't a lack of understanding but he genuinely didn't say any actual good points just rambling jumping from topic to topic that has no connections prior.
I quite liked this speech, it was intriguing and provide lots of topics for thoughtful considerations. It also introduced a new perspective on the discussion of technology and the future, with phrasing technology as an advancement and in a positive light rather than focusing on its negatives. I quite like the quote of "The answer to bad technology is not less technology, but simply better technology" as it puts out this idea in a very simple and straightforward way. If technology is evolution then having less technology because of bad technology is the same as having less plants because of bad plants or having less life because of some bad lives. Overall, a very thought provoking speech and I do recommend it for anyone who wants to explore more on this topic on technology and evolution.
We at NSTEM encourage girls and boys, men and women of all ages to study STEM fields, including technology. This video explains very well how technology has evolved and that it's about what technology wants, much like how a "plant wants light." I think the more poignant points was at the end, when Kevin Kelly says that we are obligated to "invent more tools" so that today's kids can discover more and that our future geniuses can have better technology in the future to work with. Wonderful video!
Kevin is describing his/our own evolutionary tenancies. Humans are the most fantastic piece of (bio)technology yet to emerge so this is simply self referencing logic or recursive behavior. Since we ourselves are pieces of technology, he is only describing what we ourselves want.
The most profound portion of Mr. Kelly's lecture is found in the final minute. I expected a more enlightening talk considering his credentials and would have preferred him to expand upon his supposition about agriculture producing climate change prior to the industrial revolution. While the chart shown at the 15:53 mark looks menacing at first glance, it is devoid of any details and substantive data.
To justify a bunch of made up terminology that either describes contextual interactions not totally apparent, or far more frequently, painfully obvious, to justify the existence of sociology.
@@heathenbreathinfire Nothing he said is made up. This has nothing to do with sociology. He is speaking about the movement of technology. Did we watch the same video?
Yeah I don't get this, hes comparing machines and AI to living creatures even though creatures weren't hardcoded nor given any tasks to complete, it can't want it just does because it is told to do it. It's like saying "the traffic light wanted to turn green"
I believe that thinking there's connections in things is wishful thinking of a desperate style of thinking to feel less alone. its a accident just isn't right to people and they would rather go to faith or some absurd notion that there's a connection. the only connection is we are all linked to the same matter and that's it everything else is chaos.
absolutely nothing, he compared a natural organism to machine and saying the machine wanted, and technology wants to evolve, even though its humans that drive the evolution of technology through needs. Like the image of the spark catcher, he showed it off while explaining that the spark catcher wanted to change, even though us humans decided it needed to change to be more proficient. Technology doesn't tell us what it wants because we created it, we have a need, it fulfills are needs and answers to us not vice versa
Got sent here for my college, and I'm going to be honest, I don't get the point in comparing technology to living beings and evolution. A spark catcher didn't just evolve traits to change, it was worked on and designed to be more proficient. Overall this video is just bad, "i can tell it wanted the outlet" yeah, it was programmed to want the outlet, its not the same as a living organism wanting food. The evolution = technology thing he's going for is such a bad analogy for the change in technology
Could the Technium be the physical avatar of the coming AI? After all, a smart enough machine could reach back in time (subject to strong constraints) and manipulate the world into building IT. (cf. Roko's Basilisk rationalwiki.org/wiki/Roko's_basilisk)
technology is technology... progress differs. and if technology IS progress, then WHO progresses? only those who profit from it. not the everyday workers... they are ALWAYS kept down and in the dark. and that is always who is lied to about the "progress".
Who is watching this as part of a college class?
i am
@@Varlist420 me too
me as well
PGU IT213, seems like alot of Professors enjoy this video
Purdue Global-software development concepts. This was so hard to listen to.
IT213 PG brought me here
same
PG251
It could be argued that the current direction of technological development is a reflection, if not extension, of the attitudes and value systems that human life currently hold, and that if those attitudes and value systems were to change, the direction of technological development would also change. It's like...we're sitting on a diamond mine of unexercised muscles, and we don't even know what those muscles are.
A lot of talking but saying very little, some good points that makes it worthwhile
I don't think you understand what he is saying if you think he was just moving his mouth and rambling on.
@@berekkrehmeier8011 he was pretty much rambling on, making a weird analogy between evolution and technology only to finish by saying "1% of good over the years is compounded better than the bad, its progress", it isn't a lack of understanding but he genuinely didn't say any actual good points just rambling jumping from topic to topic that has no connections prior.
I quite liked this speech, it was intriguing and provide lots of topics for thoughtful considerations. It also introduced a new perspective on the discussion of technology and the future, with phrasing technology as an advancement and in a positive light rather than focusing on its negatives. I quite like the quote of "The answer to bad technology is not less technology, but simply better technology" as it puts out this idea in a very simple and straightforward way. If technology is evolution then having less technology because of bad technology is the same as having less plants because of bad plants or having less life because of some bad lives.
Overall, a very thought provoking speech and I do recommend it for anyone who wants to explore more on this topic on technology and evolution.
We at NSTEM encourage girls and boys, men and women of all ages to study STEM fields, including technology. This video explains very well how technology has evolved and that it's about what technology wants, much like how a "plant wants light." I think the more poignant points was at the end, when Kevin Kelly says that we are obligated to "invent more tools" so that today's kids can discover more and that our future geniuses can have better technology in the future to work with. Wonderful video!
Kevin is describing his/our own evolutionary tenancies. Humans are the most fantastic piece of (bio)technology yet to emerge so this is simply self referencing logic or recursive behavior. Since we ourselves are pieces of technology, he is only describing what we ourselves want.
Good talk. I heard Kevin Kelly mention the technium a few times but until this talk didn't realise what he meant by it.
The most profound portion of Mr. Kelly's lecture is found in the final minute. I expected a more enlightening talk considering his credentials and would have preferred him to expand upon his supposition about agriculture producing climate change prior to the industrial revolution. While the chart shown at the 15:53 mark looks menacing at first glance, it is devoid of any details and substantive data.
+jeffersonianideal oh ok
+DM R
Thanks for confirming.
i still dont get what his point is
To justify a bunch of made up terminology that either describes contextual interactions not totally apparent, or far more frequently, painfully obvious, to justify the existence of sociology.
@@heathenbreathinfire Nothing he said is made up. This has nothing to do with sociology. He is speaking about the movement of technology. Did we watch the same video?
How Did Edison Make Light Bulbs?
Singularity meets torus field energy
To attribute to a robot that does what it was programmed to do "wanting" to do it is an abuse of language.
Yeah I don't get this, hes comparing machines and AI to living creatures even though creatures weren't hardcoded nor given any tasks to complete, it can't want it just does because it is told to do it. It's like saying "the traffic light wanted to turn green"
@@Tyomak-ov drunk on too many viewings of Blade Runner, apparently.
Gack! Banish these computer generated voices from the internet with their hideous mispronunciations
agreed. it takes like 30 seconds to just read it lul
What are you talking about?
I believe that thinking there's connections in things is wishful thinking of a desperate style of thinking to feel less alone. its a accident just isn't right to people and they would rather go to faith or some absurd notion that there's a connection. the only connection is we are all linked to the same matter and that's it everything else is chaos.
Did you watch the video on technology and comment about psychology?
Time to cook a sandwich on my external stomach.
I believe cloning has already been occurring
What an absolute nothing burger of a speech. Maybe 5 minutes of actual content worth listening to
absolutely nothing, he compared a natural organism to machine and saying the machine wanted, and technology wants to evolve, even though its humans that drive the evolution of technology through needs. Like the image of the spark catcher, he showed it off while explaining that the spark catcher wanted to change, even though us humans decided it needed to change to be more proficient. Technology doesn't tell us what it wants because we created it, we have a need, it fulfills are needs and answers to us not vice versa
@@Tyomak-ov well said
Got sent here for my college, and I'm going to be honest, I don't get the point in comparing technology to living beings and evolution. A spark catcher didn't just evolve traits to change, it was worked on and designed to be more proficient. Overall this video is just bad, "i can tell it wanted the outlet" yeah, it was programmed to want the outlet, its not the same as a living organism wanting food. The evolution = technology thing he's going for is such a bad analogy for the change in technology
Can he say evolution just one more time? Pleeeeeaaassseee???
Could the Technium be the physical avatar of the coming AI? After all, a smart enough machine could reach back in time (subject to strong constraints) and manipulate the world into building IT. (cf. Roko's Basilisk rationalwiki.org/wiki/Roko's_basilisk)
That AI is going to be the death of men human beings
Bullshit alert: technology is progress.
technology is technology...
progress differs.
and if technology IS progress, then WHO progresses?
only those who profit from it.
not the everyday workers... they are ALWAYS kept down and in the dark.
and that is always who is lied to about the "progress".
Go tell him that, I quoted him.
womble dung
so workers today are not better off than they were 100 years ago?
So, you can communicate faster and better with smoke signals than you cellphone?
@@berekkrehmeier8011 It's not to benefit you or me in the long run. Like Kingsnorth refers to, Technology is using us to create itself.
Is that a robot voice intro? Yuck. Not even waiting to hear the talk. I am outtie.