Liquids have a higher evaporation rate, this is also why we add our top note ingredients last before capping and aging our blends to allow a fixation effect to take place.
Hey Alex, awesome video as always! I have heard from a few perfumers on forums that diluting with alcohol will stop your overall fragrance from "maturing". I can't find any reliable scientific reasoning for this, so I'm skeptical. Any thoughts or knowledge on this?
Nice VIdeo! I was trying to mimic a "MOlecule 02" and diluted Ambermor (IFF Ambroxan) in 10% grain alcohol. BUT, after diluted and when applied over my skin, it got a “plastic” texture (not oily, as the most of fragrance feels over skin)! After a few minutes, started to crack over my skin! Is there anything else to dilute and help to bind with the skin and helps on longevity? Or, if i let macerate for a few weeks this could help with bind with my skin? Thank you!
Hey I love your videos and I'm also a subscriber. How do you feel about pheromones and do you think that this Ambroxan crystal powder will work will with oils or do you reccomend the alcohol. where did you get your gram scale and where did you get your ambroxan from? also do you know where i can buy some authentic agarwood? It's really hard to find.
Hi Alex- you didnt show the math?? I saw your answer - 1.58 grams, but how to you get it- 79% of 2 ml? Thank you! I like natural resins too for perfumes :)
Always measure your ingredients by weight and not volume. For example, 1mL of ethanol will weight less than 1g so I simply input the conversion into Google Search "79 Percent of 2" and that gives us 1.58g 🙂 Hope this helps!
Hi i find when i dilute with perfumers alcohol, it is soluble then after a couple of weeks it turns back to Crystals, is this maybe because some alcohol has evaporated?
I find that this happens with some of my solutions as well especially with Maltol Crystals, Celestolide, and Rose Crystals. I've found that some ingredients need less material to remain dissolved. 3% opposed to 10% for example.
sir can i ask you,what will be the physical state of that after the amboxan has melted,is it oily or liquid state?what is the exact usage of that,are we goin to add it that diluted ambroxan in our mixed fragrance oil or add it in the whole perfume with alchol,water and dpg?thank you so much🙏
I've never melted Ambroxan Crystal on its own. The recommended usage is 1% of your total concentration but has been used successfully in higher concentrations in other perfumes. Sometimes I'll use a 10% Alcohol Solution in my blends, but I like to use the raw material most of the time. You'll add this ingredient with your other ingredients during the blending process. Whether you use raw ingredients or a solution is up to you 🙂
@@Whiffly sir im confused with the term for example ambroxan 10% in dpg,and the maximum usage is 10%?what does it mean,or can we dilute the ambroxan with 1:1 ratio like 1gram ambrox 1ml ethanol?
You can dilute it further if you'd like. It means that in your entire vial, there is 10% Ambroxan and 90% DPG. If you used half of that entire solution, it would amount to 5% Ambroxan. This is where a bit of math comes in because you have 5% Ambroxan 95% DPG and the conversion will come with the next variable you use (more DPG or Alcohol).
@@Whiffly but in your video you did,1.58 ethanol:.158 ambrox,why you didnt make 1.422 ethanol:.158 ambrox?just asking!although you just made .100 in ambrox but what you really want to use is .158 ambrox
@@mi-vy8xm This video is a really bad example of ratios. I actually had the math wrong and decided to do a quick fix. I've since learned proper ratios and will make a video based on ratios themselves in the near future. This particular video is more based on how to use crystals and not about ratios. Sorry for the confusion!
Hi Alex, I’m looking at your video and by your rationale a 10% solution of your 1.58g of ethanol (after conversion) should be 0.158g of ambroxan, not 0.100g. Am I missing something? 🤔
You're absolutely right! Wow I can't believe I made such a simple but crucial mistake. Thanks for pointing this out! 🙂 I'll be uploading a video on ratios in the near future using a few different sized bottles. There's more I'd like to go over as well. The main point of this video was how to dissolve them, but I've come to realize that people are after ratios as well.
It's situational. Some ingredients won't fully dissolve at a 10% solution like Maltol Crystals and Rose Crystals. I usually create a 1-3% solution for these. Other ingredients are much more forgiving like Vanillin & Ambroxan Crystals that can be diluted at higher percentages.
Absolutely! It dissolves in DPG, and I believe other oils like Jojoba and fractionated coconut oil. If you're having troubles dissolving the Ambroxan, you can lightly heat the oil and it'll become more soluble.
Have you considered adding this 10% DPG solution into Ethanol? It will dilute a little further but at least you should see increased projection. Unless you purchase the crystals, this seems like the only option.
I did the same thing, then realized I'd rather have it in ethanol so I just ordered some crystals too. I don't like using DPG in my fragrances. Supposedly if you go over ~13% ambroxan (in any solvent, as far as I have read) it will crystallize some. Most people seem to go with a 10% concentration, probably just because it's a familiar usage and dilution in the field. Ethanol works well, but I am also a fan of making my dilutions in TEC. TEC is fine for fragrance or flavor applications and is often employed for hard-to-dissolve substances. It works in sprayers also, although it can be hard on some softer plastics. If you're just using it for a diluent rather than the major fragrance solvent, it shouldn't be a problem. And it is natural in origin, which I like.
What size bottle are you using? All you need is to find out how much alcohol you will be using, then just add 1% of your desired ingredient to the solution. (Taking into account the subtraction of alcohol to added ingredient ratio).
Your educational action is commendable but a rule in perfumery is that we first weigh the solids and then incorporate the liquids.
why would it matter which one is weighed first?
Liquids have a higher evaporation rate, this is also why we add our top note ingredients last before capping and aging our blends to allow a fixation effect to take place.
Awesome video, thanks! Short and simple, great explanation (Y)
No problem! Glad you enjoyed the video 🙂
Hey Alex, awesome video as always! I have heard from a few perfumers on forums that diluting with alcohol will stop your overall fragrance from "maturing". I can't find any reliable scientific reasoning for this, so I'm skeptical. Any thoughts or knowledge on this?
This is helpful. Can you create more videos on how to dilute other ingredients?
Nice VIdeo!
I was trying to mimic a "MOlecule 02" and diluted Ambermor (IFF Ambroxan) in 10% grain alcohol. BUT, after diluted and when applied over my skin, it got a “plastic” texture (not oily, as the most of fragrance feels over skin)!
After a few minutes, started to crack over my skin!
Is there anything else to dilute and help to bind with the skin and helps on longevity? Or, if i let macerate for a few weeks this could help with bind with my skin?
Thank you!
Hey I love your videos and I'm also a subscriber. How do you feel about pheromones and do you think that this Ambroxan crystal powder will work will with oils or do you reccomend the alcohol. where did you get your gram scale and where did you get your ambroxan from? also do you know where i can buy some authentic agarwood? It's really hard to find.
I am manufacturer and wholesaler of Dehnel oudh
Thank you! Really helpful video :)
No problem! Glad I could help 🙂
Hi Alex- you didnt show the math?? I saw your answer - 1.58 grams, but how to you get it- 79% of 2 ml? Thank you! I like natural resins too for perfumes :)
Always measure your ingredients by weight and not volume. For example, 1mL of ethanol will weight less than 1g so I simply input the conversion into Google Search "79 Percent of 2" and that gives us 1.58g 🙂 Hope this helps!
Hi i find when i dilute with perfumers alcohol, it is soluble then after a couple of weeks it turns back to Crystals, is this maybe because some alcohol has evaporated?
I find that this happens with some of my solutions as well especially with Maltol Crystals, Celestolide, and Rose Crystals. I've found that some ingredients need less material to remain dissolved. 3% opposed to 10% for example.
I've had this issue as well. It may be worth using a different solvent in that case, like DPG or TEC.
sir can i ask you,what will be the physical state of that after the amboxan has melted,is it oily or liquid state?what is the exact usage of that,are we goin to add it that diluted ambroxan in our mixed fragrance oil or add it in the whole perfume with alchol,water and dpg?thank you so much🙏
I've never melted Ambroxan Crystal on its own. The recommended usage is 1% of your total concentration but has been used successfully in higher concentrations in other perfumes. Sometimes I'll use a 10% Alcohol Solution in my blends, but I like to use the raw material most of the time. You'll add this ingredient with your other ingredients during the blending process. Whether you use raw ingredients or a solution is up to you 🙂
@@Whiffly sir im confused with the term for example ambroxan 10% in dpg,and the maximum usage is 10%?what does it mean,or can we dilute the ambroxan with 1:1 ratio like 1gram ambrox 1ml ethanol?
You can dilute it further if you'd like. It means that in your entire vial, there is 10% Ambroxan and 90% DPG. If you used half of that entire solution, it would amount to 5% Ambroxan. This is where a bit of math comes in because you have 5% Ambroxan 95% DPG and the conversion will come with the next variable you use (more DPG or Alcohol).
@@Whiffly but in your video you did,1.58 ethanol:.158 ambrox,why you didnt make 1.422 ethanol:.158 ambrox?just asking!although you just made .100 in ambrox but what you really want to use is .158 ambrox
@@mi-vy8xm This video is a really bad example of ratios. I actually had the math wrong and decided to do a quick fix. I've since learned proper ratios and will make a video based on ratios themselves in the near future. This particular video is more based on how to use crystals and not about ratios. Sorry for the confusion!
Can i add some of this to a perfume and what are the benefits? Will it last longer ?
Anyway you could show us how to dilute using dpg?
I will definitely do this in the coming weeks!
@@WhifflyDid you ever do this? I could use some guidance!
Ambroxan are of different types, for example KAO/ Givaudan/ IFF and so on .. please one of these crystals do you advise? Where can I get them.
Sir please make videos
You are not making videos
I am waiting for your videos
I'm really sorry, I have a really interesting video on Geosmin I'll record this week!
Hi Alex, I’m looking at your video and by your rationale a 10% solution of your 1.58g of ethanol (after conversion) should be 0.158g of ambroxan, not 0.100g. Am I missing something? 🤔
You're absolutely right! Wow I can't believe I made such a simple but crucial mistake. Thanks for pointing this out! 🙂 I'll be uploading a video on ratios in the near future using a few different sized bottles. There's more I'd like to go over as well. The main point of this video was how to dissolve them, but I've come to realize that people are after ratios as well.
@@Whiffly Thanks 🙏🏽 for clarifying. I’m glad I could help… And yes, a ratios video would be very helpful.
Can we use this solution as a fixative in perfume?
It is a base note so it does host fixative properties
I would like to dilute crystal Violet powder in a 20litres container. Please assist
Right on, How can I help?
If I were to do a 30ml bottle 10% dilution. What would be the ratio of grams of ambroxan crystal to perfumers alcohol? Thanks
Thanks!
@@kevinmiller6378 what was the ratio?
@kevin miller i would like to know too,please.
I'm sorry I took so long to reply. The ratio for a 30mL 10% solution would be 3g - 27g Alcohol.
How much alcohol do you add to the crystals? Is it the same as a dilution with liquids?
It's situational. Some ingredients won't fully dissolve at a 10% solution like Maltol Crystals and Rose Crystals. I usually create a 1-3% solution for these. Other ingredients are much more forgiving like Vanillin & Ambroxan Crystals that can be diluted at higher percentages.
My Ambroxan recrystallises at 10% Dilution in ethanol. Do anyone know why?
Is it crystalizing inside the bottle or around the cap?
@@Whiffly In the bottle actually, even at 5%
Is it stored in a really cold area? I'd have to check the freezing point of Ambroxan but it might be too cold where it's being stored
Hello bro, which one is better to dilute ambroxan? alcohol or dpg
It all depends on what you're trying to accomplish. I prefer an Alcohol solution
Is it possible to make an ambroxan fragrance oil? If so what oil would you use to dilute it with?
Absolutely! It dissolves in DPG, and I believe other oils like Jojoba and fractionated coconut oil. If you're having troubles dissolving the Ambroxan, you can lightly heat the oil and it'll become more soluble.
@@Whiffly Awesome! Thank you, I will try that
@@Whiffly Had the same question so Thanks!
I got the DPG 90% to 10% Ambroxan on perfumer apprentice. what should I do? I wanted the crystals to make a 10% ratio with 90%ethanol.
Have you considered adding this 10% DPG solution into Ethanol? It will dilute a little further but at least you should see increased projection. Unless you purchase the crystals, this seems like the only option.
@@Whiffly ahh thank you for this reply. I commented on your other message. What ratio should I use? 50ml to 50ml of DPG Ambroxan + ethanol?
I tried right now the 50/50 dilution. It’s now I can spray the DPG. I bought actual crystals and will add them into this dilution
I did the same thing, then realized I'd rather have it in ethanol so I just ordered some crystals too. I don't like using DPG in my fragrances. Supposedly if you go over ~13% ambroxan (in any solvent, as far as I have read) it will crystallize some. Most people seem to go with a 10% concentration, probably just because it's a familiar usage and dilution in the field. Ethanol works well, but I am also a fan of making my dilutions in TEC. TEC is fine for fragrance or flavor applications and is often employed for hard-to-dissolve substances. It works in sprayers also, although it can be hard on some softer plastics. If you're just using it for a diluent rather than the major fragrance solvent, it shouldn't be a problem. And it is natural in origin, which I like.
everyone explains how to dillute but no1 explains how to make 100% strengh :D do you know how to ?
In this case you don't dilute but simply add the powder as it is to your composition
Hi, do you age it for a week or two?
You can set it in a cool, dark place where it will be undisturbed. I suggest watching the video I have on Aging and Maceration :)
@@Whiffly Thank you 🥰🙏.
You're welcome 😁
where can I get perfumers alcohol?
Hi . where i can buy ambroxan crystal
Who to dilute at 1% I am new?
What size bottle are you using? All you need is to find out how much alcohol you will be using, then just add 1% of your desired ingredient to the solution. (Taking into account the subtraction of alcohol to added ingredient ratio).
Very informative . Where can we get ambroxan crystals sir?
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I added the link in each description :)
Sorry, I'm unfamiliar with this recipe.
Brother Why you did 79% of 2 ml ?
The weight of the alcohol is 79% of 1 gram. So mainly to avoid spillage in such a tiny bottle. I'll be making a video on ratios very soon.
@@Whiffly you mean density ?
@@anasahmed2496 Correct, thank you.
@@Whiffly thanks brother
Can we dissolve ambroxan in DPG
Absolutely!
What will be the ratio?