And guess caustic would render a portion of PGMs into cupel specially when used with KNO3. Here the majority of jewelers test gold karat like this: They first smelt gold sample with NaOH and KNO3 after removing PGMs. They roll out the sample into a very thin bar then boil it in nitric acid to remove any silver and remaining Pd, resulted pure gold piece would be weighed again to calculate Purity... I think it's quite challenging to get it desirably done. But I really like to try.
@@PickyPlans thanks for the verification, also wondering if you could make a video focusing on this concentration process on its own? im looking to build a larger setup and some pointers would be greatly appreciated.
@adelinyoungmark1929 I do need a large setup too but still not sure about building a shaker table or just larger blue bowl.... In any case I'll make a video on that
Я не уверен в этом... такое может случиться... но однажды опытный парень сказал мне, что если не соскребать дно кастрюли, двигая магнит, то вы не потеряете при этом ни одного драгоценного металла. с магнитами.
Nails react with precious metals oxide and Litharge to form and PM alloy in lead. In case of sulfides it goes into sulfide and pushes PM from sulfide out into the collector metal
Excelente vídeo! Apreciaria muito se puder responder umas questões. Como você obteve as quantidades do Paládio e da Platina? Conseguiu determinar se o resíduo insolúvel na digestão ácida era o Ródio? Você tem algum vídeo sobre a metalurgia do Ródio? Obrigado!
gracias mi amigo. el paladio se precipitó usando zinc y se cupeló por separado. Hice lo mismo con el polvo restante en el ácido nítrico y luego lo pesé con una báscula sensible. Alao, puedes hacer la prueba con una pistola XRF antes de tratar con ácido nítrico. Sí, el residuo negro podría probarse hirviéndolo en un poco de agua regia. Si se disuelve, es platino y, si no, lo más probable es que sea rodio. Desafortunadamente, todavía no tengo ningún vídeo sobre el refinado de rodio, pero estoy considerando hacer algunos...
No problem. No it would be released as black powder while dissolution of alloy. This happens to gold and rhodium but gold and platinum could be dissolved in hot aqua regia.
Assalamualaikum, i want ask you a question. I have 250gram of mix IC, flat pack, transistor and 56 gram of chips, bassed in your experient how much gold that could i get. Thank you.
Specific Gravity Lead = 11.4 Silver = 10.49 Gold =19.32 Platinum = 21.45 Paladium = 12.0 Ruthenium =12.2 Rhodium =12.44 Irridium = 21.59 Do you spot the issues with Concrntration? Values Can be lost. What I do is burn my rocks with very hot flame, which allows the metals to bind within the rocks. Then easily crush them dampened and rinse off the dust into a bucket. Then I dry in a pan with enough heat to remove Sulphur, then using a magnet, remove ferromagnetic material. I filter out the mud, and rinse well with water within the filter, and dry, demagnetize too. Then I mix some Sodium Carbonate and Borax to pull the metals together and with a Torch, smelt. From the crucible I drop the smelt in Cold water. And finally just by squeezing tand crumbling he metal balls covered with slag in my hands, the quartz/borax comes off the metals. I get what you get, but more.... And most importantly, the element seem to stick together because while using my torch, I work the molten stuff pressing it together with a scissor type tong. Once the metals in gran sizes are liberated, then you can refine.
درود دوست عزیز شما ابتدا تشویه را انجام بدهید به روش احیا بصورت سه مرحله ای در نظر داشته باشید اکسید الومنیوم موجود در خاک یکی از عوامل مزاحم است که بسیار مشکل زا هست. و کمتر کسی به آن توجه میکند. شبیه به فلز روی ، فلزات گرانبها را به سرباره منتقل میکند.
ممنون از توجه شما به دلیل کم بودن حجم نمونه فرایند رو خیلی پیچیده نکردم و سعی شد که سولفید با لیتارژ یا آبه سربی اکسید بشه . اکسید آلومینیوم تا حجم های مشخصی در وجود بوراکس و آبه سرب به سرباره روان تبدیل میشه ، حتی توی کاتالیست خودرو هم با این فرمول مشکلی ایجاد نمیکنه
Ore precious metals concentration was 7.2 ppm
Silver 3.6 ppm
Palladium 2.1 ppm
Platinum 1.2 ppm
انت مبدع جدا وتستحق كل الحب والاحترام والتشجيع للقناة انا اشكرك
هذا لطف منك، شكرًا على المشاهدة
Impressive! Next challenge for you - tin as collector metal for PMs! 😊
Thanks man!
Doesn't tin form non - fusible scortia?
@@PickyPlansit does but NaOH and NaNO3 dissolve it
I guess it's ok while smelting but while cupellation it needs +1000 °C to prevent freezing, what do you think mate?
@@PickyPlans caustic cleans tin during cupelling, but it also worked on gold alloyed with tin
And guess caustic would render a portion of PGMs into cupel specially when used with KNO3.
Here the majority of jewelers test gold karat like this:
They first smelt gold sample with NaOH and KNO3 after removing PGMs. They roll out the sample into a very thin bar then boil it in nitric acid to remove any silver and remaining Pd, resulted pure gold piece would be weighed again to calculate Purity...
I think it's quite challenging to get it desirably done.
But I really like to try.
Good job bro 👍🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🌹
Thanks bunches, bro 🙏🌹
the concentration method you used could be used for other dense minerals right? such as lead or tungsten bearing minerals?
Yes as you mentioned it could be used for other dense materials.
Usually denser than 5 g/cm3 could be concentrated this way.
@@PickyPlans thanks for the verification, also wondering if you could make a video focusing on this concentration process on its own? im looking to build a larger setup and some pointers would be greatly appreciated.
@adelinyoungmark1929 I do need a large setup too but still not sure about building a shaker table or just larger blue bowl.... In any case I'll make a video on that
Is there any effect if heated the Mineraled quartz 🪨 at a high temp until RED 🔥 . Then throw 💧 to 🆒 em down (shattering them selfs into peace’s?
It's an old school method used to crash rocks ...
شكرت على هذه المعلومات القيمه
Muy bien.
Dear sir white powder is falling down in Aqua Regia what is it i don't understand
It's silver chloride forming by addition of silver nitrate solution to HCl solution.
Hi, can you do smelting in a cast iron crucible?
Yes, it could be done, but the temperature should not exceed 1000°C.
It depends on your flux system
Здравствуйте, серебро, ПД и платина по ходу 😊
ساده ترین راه استخراج فلزات گروه پلاتین از سنگ معدنی چه روشی است ؟ آیا فقط با ذوب کردن میشه فلزات گرانبها رو استخراج کرد ؟
با سیانید هم قابل انجامه اما خیلی زمان بر هستش
@PickyPlans برای خاک های سولفیدی چه راه کاری را پیشنهاد میکنید ؟
خاک های ایران اکثرا سولفیدی هستند .
اکسیداسون به روش تشفیه و سیانید یا اسیاب مستقیم و استفاده از پودر گلداکس تولید ما
Nice video, keep going bro
Thank you so much bro!
الله يعطيك العافيه والقوة انا من سوريا ارجو من حضرتكم افادتنا كيفية العمل على الزئبق وشكرا
وبالخص الذهب الذري المكروسكوبي
Мне кажется что с магнитным шлихом (магнетитом) могло уйти небольшое количество драгоценных металлов.
Я не уверен в этом... такое может случиться... но однажды опытный парень сказал мне, что если не соскребать дно кастрюли, двигая магнит, то вы не потеряете при этом ни одного драгоценного металла. с магнитами.
سلام دوست عزیز . اون سنگ خرد کن رو از کجا میشه تهیه کرد . قیمتش چنده ؟
خردکن ساخت من هستش
@@PickyPlans از کجا میتونم یکی مثل این تهیه کنم ؟
توی گوگل سرچ بزنید آسیاب چکشی
Brother !! Please can you yell me why you add nails?? They absorb the oxidized sulfides ?? I heard that they also can absorb litharge !! Is that true
Nails react with precious metals oxide and Litharge to form and PM alloy in lead. In case of sulfides it goes into sulfide and pushes PM from sulfide out into the collector metal
Excelente vídeo!
Apreciaria muito se puder responder umas questões.
Como você obteve as quantidades do Paládio e da Platina?
Conseguiu determinar se o resíduo insolúvel na digestão ácida era o Ródio?
Você tem algum vídeo sobre a metalurgia do Ródio?
Obrigado!
gracias mi amigo. el paladio se precipitó usando zinc y se cupeló por separado. Hice lo mismo con el polvo restante en el ácido nítrico y luego lo pesé con una báscula sensible. Alao, puedes hacer la prueba con una pistola XRF antes de tratar con ácido nítrico. Sí, el residuo negro podría probarse hirviéndolo en un poco de agua regia. Si se disuelve, es platino y, si no, lo más probable es que sea rodio. Desafortunadamente, todavía no tengo ningún vídeo sobre el refinado de rodio, pero estoy considerando hacer algunos...
Thanks man. Please clarify one more doubt for me. Wouldn't Platinum have dissolved in nitric acid along with Silver and Palladium?
No problem.
No it would be released as black powder while dissolution of alloy. This happens to gold and rhodium but gold and platinum could be dissolved in hot aqua regia.
Thank you my friend.🙏⚗
Assalamualaikum, i want ask you a question. I have 250gram of mix IC, flat pack, transistor and 56 gram of chips, bassed in your experient how much gold that could i get. Thank you.
Depending on your material types you would get 0.3-0.5 grams of gold.
@@PickyPlans Well that's enough Alhamdullilah i still got revenue from refining that material Insyaallah.
سلام این سنگ رو نمیشه با سیانید سدیم کار کنی و همه فلزات رو بگیری منظورم طلا ،نقره ،پالادیوم و پلاتین
بله امکان پذیره ولی باید اول تشویه بشه و بعد با سیانید و اب اکسیژنه ۲۴ ساعت لیچ بشه.
Our chemist is a pro 😁😁😉
Thanks Hosam, you helping a lot🌹
💪💪💪👍👍👍
Specific Gravity
Lead = 11.4
Silver = 10.49
Gold =19.32
Platinum = 21.45
Paladium = 12.0
Ruthenium =12.2
Rhodium =12.44
Irridium = 21.59
Do you spot the issues with Concrntration? Values Can be lost.
What I do is burn my rocks with very hot flame, which allows the metals to bind within the rocks. Then easily crush them dampened and rinse off the dust into a bucket.
Then I dry in a pan with enough heat to remove Sulphur, then using a magnet, remove ferromagnetic material.
I filter out the mud, and rinse well with water within the filter, and dry, demagnetize too.
Then I mix some Sodium Carbonate and Borax to pull the metals together and with a Torch, smelt. From the crucible I drop the smelt in Cold water.
And finally just by squeezing tand crumbling he metal balls covered with slag in my hands, the quartz/borax comes off the metals.
I get what you get, but more.... And most importantly, the element seem to stick together because while using my torch, I work the molten stuff pressing it together with a scissor type tong.
Once the metals in gran sizes are liberated, then you can refine.
That was very informative! Thanks for sharing with us🙏
عالی بود
I’m sure the electricity used to grind the rocks was more than the results
Metal recovered through fire assay analysis doesn't necessarily cover analysis expenses.
درود
دوست عزیز
شما ابتدا تشویه را انجام بدهید به روش احیا بصورت سه مرحله ای
در نظر داشته باشید اکسید الومنیوم موجود در خاک یکی از عوامل مزاحم است که بسیار مشکل زا هست. و کمتر کسی به آن توجه میکند.
شبیه به فلز روی ، فلزات گرانبها را به سرباره منتقل میکند.
ممنون از توجه شما
به دلیل کم بودن حجم نمونه فرایند رو خیلی پیچیده نکردم و سعی شد که سولفید با لیتارژ یا آبه سربی اکسید بشه .
اکسید آلومینیوم تا حجم های مشخصی در وجود بوراکس و آبه سرب به سرباره روان تبدیل میشه ، حتی توی کاتالیست خودرو هم با این فرمول مشکلی ایجاد نمیکنه
❤😂
A waste of time
These bad methods do not create metals, but rather deplete stones.