•Extreme care must be taken while handling platinum group metals. • Acetylene gas is a combustible gas and should be Stored and handled far from any open flame. • Acids are corrosive and could cause irritation upon contact, should be handled under professional supervision
Great job, don't miss gold, there is also gold in mlcc trust me, also some palladium will not be dissolved in nitric acid but it will be with aqua regia, use AR with undissolved material from nitric bath, then precipitate gold and keep your acid waste into stockpot to get last palladium later. approximately will get 0.3 gram of gold from 1 kg of mlccs
شكراً جزيلاً. البلاديوم فقط يترسب بغاز الأسيتيلين... النحاس لن يترسب في المحلول الحمضي.. لترسيب النحاس تحتاج إلى محلول قلوي مع الأمونيا ثم يمكنك ترسيبه بالأسيتيلين (لكن كن حذرا أسيتيليد النحاس الذي يتشكل في محلول الأمونيا هو مادة متفجرة) مادة)
I think you are unaware that with this machine you can use it for the electromagnetic coil for an induction oven, it is capable of even melting 316 stainless steel. The induction coil will take copper tube and fiberglass jacket, the tube is screwed on a proforma of 2 cm tolerance to the crucible since it needs to be covered with oven concrete. To avoid crushing, weld the vehicle chamber valve and plug to the other end and give a little air pump pressure. The concrete that covers it is alumina paste but first you have to create a ceramic cloth like a glass for the graphite crucible. The uncovered part of the tube is welded fixing for electrical condition and adapter for heat sink with water pump
Thanks mate for the explanation ... If you have the plan send it to my e-mai... Thanks in advance. Pickyplans.comm@gmail.com By this plan i can just use a silicone carbide crucible i guess also it has a refractory cover as concrete you mentioned
Not at all! As i mentioned in the video (silver and copper carbide or acetylides) When you precipitate silver as chloride beforehand silver could not make acetylide in next steps and copper needs to be reduced to Cu+ in ammoniacal solution (using reducing agents like hydroxylamine) .it would not form acetylide in acidic condition at all -Red blood color (Copper acetylide/carbide) -white gray color (Silver acetylide/Carbide). I used the "energetic" word instead of explosive in the video. And other metals carbide/acetylide are not explosives like palladium carbide we recovered or tungsten carbide used as hard material to make cutting tools.
No Acetylene would react the same with other PGMs. You need to use other methods to separate PGMs (using ammonium chloride to get platinum and iridium out . Then cement remaining PGMs using zinc fuse the mix metals with sodium Bisulfate to make rhodium soluble in water (as ion) then process for rest of metals by doing Alkaline fusion (NaOH and KNO3 mix) But you really need to be careful about osmium.
Upon heating in air( or smelting with alkali )it turns into Osmium Tetroxide which boils at 40 ° C It reacts with the retinol in your eyes and blinds you
A cheaper alternative to DMG would be to use ammonium chloride, use a saturated ammonium chloride and water solution make sure it's hot, add to your Pd containing solution, if any platinum is present, it will precipitate as orange platinum-ammonium salt, after you do that, add chlorine solid or gas form, whatever's clever, I will sometimes just drop chunks of pool shock tablets in or you can make a gas generator and through your solution to precipitate the brick-red palldium-ammonium chloride salt. Obviously this still requires that you calcine to get palladium sponge, it is a technique well known in the literature and ammonium chloride is pretty cheap. Another route maybe formic acid, that give you the benefit of precipitation of Pd in its metallic form and so no need for calcination but it's much more expensive than the ammonium chloride route, but also just as well known in the literature. Hope this helps.
@@samuelbaldwin3408 Thanks for explanation. Also I've read a report which used potassium permanganate to generate chlorine and oxidize palladium to 4+ state . I'm going to give it a shot
It doesn't go into the slag ! While smelting pure palladium metal with an Oxy - Fuel torch i can absorb both carbon and oxygen from feeding gases so while cooling it sparks and swells as it blows the gases out ... So you'll lose some value due to the splashing and scattering. That's why a reducing flame using H2 gas is recommended
Thank you my friend. First i used HCl to drop silver chloride then i filtered and washed it then 3 table spoons sodium hydroxide added and stirred to get fully black material then 2 table spoons of sugar added and let to react... Your silver powder is ready to wash and melt
Good idea. I intended to do this method + copper cell electrolysis to get gold . Since i think there is no point in using nitric acid after this method.
@@PickyPlans borax and nitrate initially to destroy the resins and some base metals, then borax and caustic to dissolve the ceramic substrates. After the second smelt, the slag was nice and glassy and the metal button was clean and separated from the slag easily.
The graphite rod didn't touch the molten charge, I placed it on the top but it was very close to the charge. The arc would lean into the charge at a certain distance of electrodes.
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•Extreme care must be taken while handling platinum group metals.
• Acetylene gas is a combustible gas and should be Stored and handled far from any open flame.
• Acids are corrosive and could cause irritation upon contact, should be handled under professional supervision
I'm doing almost the same thing currently, cool
Great job, don't miss gold, there is also gold in mlcc trust me, also some palladium will not be dissolved in nitric acid but it will be with aqua regia, use AR with undissolved material from nitric bath, then precipitate gold and keep your acid waste into stockpot to get last palladium later. approximately will get 0.3 gram of gold from 1 kg of mlccs
Wow that's amazing! I've kept the dross. I'll process it later that's really a high score for gold
It's true there is gold, especially in non magnetic mlccs, not much but it is there
Things are getting interesting!
Mlcc doesn't contain gold.Gold came from tin solder.Especially from gold plated board tin solder.
@ArieSulistyo-pe2wx the mlccs I process are new old stock (NOS) they have not been soldered to a circuit board
مرحبا عمل رائع صديقي اذا تم اطلاق غاز الاسلتين في المحلول هل يرسب نحاس ان وجد ام انه مرسب نقي البلاديوم فقط❤❤❤❤
شكراً جزيلاً. البلاديوم فقط يترسب بغاز الأسيتيلين... النحاس لن يترسب في المحلول الحمضي.. لترسيب النحاس تحتاج إلى محلول قلوي مع الأمونيا ثم يمكنك ترسيبه بالأسيتيلين (لكن كن حذرا أسيتيليد النحاس الذي يتشكل في محلول الأمونيا هو مادة متفجرة) مادة)
I think you are unaware that with this machine you can use it for the electromagnetic coil for an induction oven, it is capable of even melting 316 stainless steel.
The induction coil will take copper tube and fiberglass jacket, the tube is screwed on a proforma of 2 cm tolerance to the crucible since it needs to be covered with oven concrete.
To avoid crushing, weld the vehicle chamber valve and plug to the other end and give a little air pump pressure.
The concrete that covers it is alumina paste but first you have to create a ceramic cloth like a glass for the graphite crucible.
The uncovered part of the tube is welded fixing for electrical condition and adapter for heat sink with water pump
Thanks mate for the explanation ... If you have the plan send it to my e-mai... Thanks in advance.
Pickyplans.comm@gmail.com
By this plan i can just use a silicone carbide crucible i guess also it has a refractory cover as concrete you mentioned
Another good one Picky!!
Thanks!
I'd like to see a closeup of how your using that welder as a torch. Genius....damn dangerous but genius for the smart people.
Sure,I'll cover it in upcoming videos...
Good VDO.
Price for MLCC 1 kg that I can buy plz.
10 $ per kg for mix and for non magnetic you need to test a small batch first
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Wouldn't this risk forming acetylides with other metallic solutions which are dangerous explosives
Not at all! As i mentioned in the video (silver and copper carbide or acetylides) When you precipitate silver as chloride beforehand silver could not make acetylide in next steps and copper needs to be reduced to Cu+ in ammoniacal solution (using reducing agents like hydroxylamine) .it would not form acetylide in acidic condition at all
-Red blood color (Copper acetylide/carbide)
-white gray color (Silver acetylide/Carbide).
I used the "energetic" word instead of explosive in the video.
And other metals carbide/acetylide are not explosives like palladium carbide we recovered or tungsten carbide used as hard material to make cutting tools.
@@PickyPlans will this seperately precipitate Pd from other pgms like Ru, Ir, Pt and Os
No Acetylene would react the same with other PGMs. You need to use other methods to separate PGMs (using ammonium chloride to get platinum and iridium out . Then cement remaining PGMs using zinc fuse the mix metals with sodium Bisulfate to make rhodium soluble in water (as ion) then process for rest of metals by doing Alkaline fusion (NaOH and KNO3 mix)
But you really need to be careful about osmium.
@@PickyPlans Why be careful with osmium ?
Upon heating in air( or smelting with alkali )it turns into Osmium Tetroxide which boils at 40 ° C It reacts with the retinol in your eyes and blinds you
A cheaper alternative to DMG would be to use ammonium chloride, use a saturated ammonium chloride and water solution make sure it's hot, add to your Pd containing solution, if any platinum is present, it will precipitate as orange platinum-ammonium salt, after you do that, add chlorine solid or gas form, whatever's clever, I will sometimes just drop chunks of pool shock tablets in or you can make a gas generator and through your solution to precipitate the brick-red palldium-ammonium chloride salt. Obviously this still requires that you calcine to get palladium sponge, it is a technique well known in the literature and ammonium chloride is pretty cheap. Another route maybe formic acid, that give you the benefit of precipitation of Pd in its metallic form and so no need for calcination but it's much more expensive than the ammonium chloride route, but also just as well known in the literature. Hope this helps.
@@samuelbaldwin3408 Thanks for explanation. Also I've read a report which used potassium permanganate to generate chlorine and oxidize palladium to 4+ state . I'm going to give it a shot
دستت درد نکنه از بابت زیرنویس فارسی
I learned if u smelt the pgms using oxg-prop torch all precious metal goes into slag
It doesn't go into the slag ! While smelting pure palladium metal with an Oxy - Fuel torch i can absorb both carbon and oxygen from feeding gases so while cooling it sparks and swells as it blows the gases out ... So you'll lose some value due to the splashing and scattering. That's why a reducing flame using H2 gas is recommended
God bless you, a very wonderful job, can I know what material you deposited in silver with the details if you honor 20:11 20:11
Thank you my friend.
First i used HCl to drop silver chloride then i filtered and washed it then 3 table spoons sodium hydroxide added and stirred to get fully black material then 2 table spoons of sugar added and let to react... Your silver powder is ready to wash and melt
superb processes great video
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very nice video thank yolu pickyplans
Thank you!
Please make video for gold recovery using this method for ic
Good idea. I intended to do this method + copper cell electrolysis to get gold .
Since i think there is no point in using nitric acid after this method.
I got 2.4g per 300g resin dip MLCC.
From just smelting in different fluxes with silver and lead collector
Great job and yield data... Did you use borax and sodium carbonate as flux?
@@PickyPlans borax and nitrate initially to destroy the resins and some base metals, then borax and caustic to dissolve the ceramic substrates. After the second smelt, the slag was nice and glassy and the metal button was clean and separated from the slag easily.
Great aproach! Thanks 👍
excellent video bro 🌹🌹🌹🌹🔥👍
Thank you so much bro🔥
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I'm surprised you got away with using a carbon ark to melt platinum group metals. Since platinum likes to soak up carbon
The graphite rod didn't touch the molten charge, I placed it on the top but it was very close to the charge. The arc would lean into the charge at a certain distance of electrodes.
Not very much palladium
Only old and not magnetic worth processing
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500 gr mlc = 0.66 gram palladium 😞😓😩😫😭👍👍👍👍👍
Unfortunately yes. Of course it depends on the year of manufacture it could be higher.
You are a very good master, the video is super@@PickyPlans
@casilyas1985 Thank you, I appreciate your kind words.
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Да и индукционная печь с тиглем из карбида кремния отлично подходит для такого материала