6 Months on Medical Keto: Was It Worth It?
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- Rob shares more about what the experience of following the medical ketogenic diet for the last 6 months has been like for him even though he is not using it to treat a mental illness or chronic condition. He talks about why he's been doing and the benefits he has seen as well as the challenges he has faced. He also shares if he would recommend it for others.
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Rob, I follow your channel but comment infrequently. About a year ago when Lauren was in psychosis I did comment to let you know I could relate to visiting my wife in the psyche ward and going home to two small kids…and also to let you know that I was days away from our 48th anniversary. Today I’m less than a week away from year 49. I am so pleased and heartened to see such positive news and that your union remains strong. I know first hand the challenges, doubts and fear but honoring your commitment to each other will bring you out to the “other side”. Hang tough…
You are so awesome. Thank you for being a real man. A good man who sticks by his partner, instead of ditching them. We need a billion more of you
when rob said he was 40 i was quite shocked. he seems younger
@RaniaIsAwesomefor that age 😂 40 😂😂😂
He doesn’t even have to shave yet.
Rob, thank you SO MUCH for this video. My daughter suffers from psychoaffective disorder and I have been doing keto since February. She and I are estranged at the moment, but your frankness and honesty makes me feel like all of this is not in vain. My arthritis is much better. My sleep is much better. My attention and speech are better. Your journey to support someone you love encourages me to keep trying with my daughter.
Good job, Rob. That is the way a husband should support his wife.
I agree! My husband, mom, family, friends, therapists, and doctors have been so supportive with interventions to treat my anxiety and it has truly made all the difference!😀
You support each other so well it is such a beautiful thing to see.
…And the haters gonna hate, hate, hate. I just wanna shake, shake, shake…I’m sorry (and surprised) you’re getting push back. It’s your life. If you want to try keto, go for it! And I admire your commitment to Lauren. We should all be so lucky. 😊
It's great to hear your assessment, because you are not trying to sell anything! Thanks for this!
Agree. I appreciate the honesty and neutrality in this video.
I think this such a great example of spousal support and it would be so great if people in twelve step programs could offer this level of support to their spouses. Nice job Rob with having such a growth mindset!
Thank you go much for sharing this with us! Do t let the haters get to you please! I found an amazing Keto coach ( Nicole) from you and although I’m doing it for brain fog it’s so cool to see how the medical keto makes you feel! Funny thing people forget … You can always add back the carbs if you want to and the people that say it’s not healthy… how do you know it’s not healthy? You can find arguments on every side… It’s all individual and thank you for not allowing the bullies detour you! Love and Light to you ❤
Do anti psycotics always give brain fog. Here in Holland its possible to do Keto.
@@jeanpaultongeren125 Im not on any antipsychotics and have not been diagnosed with mental health problems so I don’t have experience myself… however I do know of many people on these meds that have made their condition worse… I would much rather give up sugar than take these meds … just my humble opinion 💙
There’s nothing less healthy than the Standard American Diet (SAD). The haters are willfully ignorant.
@@user-ik4jj5js7gAll people have different type of situatiin and different type of mental illness...so don't relate your problem others..search on ypur oen according your oen condition, tgen eat,sleep,medicine, exercise,busy schedule, love with parents,pet,family,support from friends,neighbours will sort out everything...
40????!!!! He looks like he could be 28
I do not have a mental health issue, at least any I am aware of, but have been on a ketogenic diet for over 5 years now, along with my wife. The first year we stayed under 20 grams of carbs per day and tried hard not to have any meals over 7 grams of carbs. Five years ago the term medical ketogenic diet was not bantered around very much, but maybe we were doing it. The last 4 years we try to stay under 30 grams, so have eased up a bit after our initial health gains (and weight loses). Anecdotally I can say that the benefits have been tremendous. I'm currently 63 but feel much better than I did 20 years ago and have more energy then I did back then. From the start we have been whole food keto eaters, staying away from the so called pre-packaged keto foods.
I can't imagine ever wanting or needing to eat any other way again. I also had a huge sweet tooth. Those cravings stopped relatively quickly for me, which was a really big surprise.
I truly believe that our species was in ketosis for the vast majority of our time and that it is the natural default state for our bodies, with using glucose as fuel having been relatively rare and infrequent. That we feel better in the state of ketosis should not really surprise anyone. All the best to both of you.
Which book or resource would you recommend for more info on staying in ketosis?
@@tippieyanez8289 Neither my wife or I were full blown Type 2 diabetics, but we were both in the pre-diabetic range. I joined a Facebook group recommended by a friend called Reversing diabetes with a Ketogenic diet. They have some great, fairly simple resources on there, including a simple list of foods that are OK to eat and their carb content. The group advises staying under 20 grams of carbs per day, which will keep just about everyone in ketosis.
Thank you for your openness. What a wonderful person you are.
Great job rob. I'm going through what you have experienced. My wife has this psychophrenic disorder also. She is currently in a psych hospital now. In denial as always. I have been doing keto for years. OMG, it's been life saving. I tried with All my heart to encourage her to do these lifestyle changes along with proper medical assistance. She won't stick to the prodical. This diet is a n amazing tool to use for balancing these symptoms. I have no idea why the medical system won't jump on board. I have talked to drs. About this and they are clueless.so disappointed.😢
I think learning to understand how diets can improve health related indicators is a prudent decision and making these changes is easier to do with your partner. I like you Rob have always been interested in weaning from sweets or sugar and carbs or just to be more aware in what we put into our bodies and the affects. Lauren has positively influenced your new healthy education and journey. A very informative Vlog on terms how the partner can be a wingman and participate in the treatment of healing. ✌🏽
Thanks for the video, Rob! I’m glad you’ve seen some improvements with keto.
Rob, I have no idea why anyone would criticize your choice to support your partner. You guys are amazing and amazing together!!
Great video Rob. Really interesting to hear impact of keto lifestyle (not really a diet!) on you.
My husband and I started medical keto about 6 weeks ago to support our 26 yr old daughter (who has the same diagnosis as Lauren - Schizoaffective). We are both feeling many benefits ourselves already - especially less aches and pains in the body (must be less inflammation) and also much less up/down energy levels - no cravings for 4pm sugary snacks! Also feeling more positive in outlook (despite very challenging life events). We have both lost weight and are the lowest we have weighed in years.
We started this to support our daughter, but now we feel like doing this for our own health benefit now and in the future as we head into our 60s.
Respect to you and thanks for inspiring our family to go down this route. 😊
Very informative, Rob! Great to hear your side of the keto diet experience in full. Hopefully more benefits come your way but at least you have other options. I wonder if the mediterranean diet is healthier than keto as I've seen on news sites that it's touted as the healthiest. However, I don't believe it does much for mental illness. Keep sharing your journeys, guys!!
Thanks for saying that about your ketone levels. I saw one of your videos where you both had such high readings. I’m a month in and have had up and down readings as well.
I think that it is wonderful that you were able to improve your own health with the diet. Most people today are dealing with metabolic disorders due to eating processed foods
and not taking care of themselves. There is an obesity epidemic and we are now seeing a surge of diseases in young people that has never been seen before. We do not need carbs
and sugar to sustain ourselves and unfortunately that is what is the cause of all of these diseases. Until we go back to the basics of just eating home cooked whole foods and stop
living on fast foods and sugar this problem will not end.
Thanks Rob! I enjoy your analytical approach. As someone in your age range (I'm 44) who enjoys lifting, I appreciate hearing about the impacts of keto on muscle mass, muscle recovery, and joint pain.
You didn't mention it here and I don't know if it's just the lighting(?)... but your skin seems clearer and/or more vibrant compared to pre-keto, as well. Have you noticed any changes in skin, vision or hair texture etc...?
I love how both of their personalities r so similar. Soulmates
Great thanks guys!
Ummmmmmmm it is called SUPPORTING the other person and not being selfish? I started a medical diet to treat my ulcerative colitis and my parents still eat like this to this day! They did it to support me so I wasn't alone. Rob is doing that for Lauren.
Hearing from you, Rob, has made me really miss the discord channel for other MH. Thanks for what you tried to create.
It's great that Rob is supporting Lauren through this 😊
Personally I wouldn't do keto alone without a medical reason, just because it restricts many healthy foods aswell, and it would severely impact my social life and ability to live spontaneously. Also, heart disease runs in my family, so I don't want to risk high cholesterol.
Ketogenic diets cause you to burn fat. I don't think you'd get high cholesterol bc you'd be burning it and other lipids for calories.
Great video Rob. It’s great to hear your experiences as well as Lauren’s. Your videos have inspired me to try a keto diet for chronic fatigue and anxiety/depression. I’d be interested to know if you guys have any issues with low blood sugar at all, as my morning reading were low, 3.8. Best wishes to you both, Eleanor from Wales, UK 🏴
Thanks!
I love that you’re supporting your partner ❤❤❤ thanks for sharing !!
Good on you it will benefit you too. Bless you and ur wife
I had similar aches and pains. Taking a no or very low carb electrolyte drink put an end to those leg pains. I’ve been using LMNT. I hope this helps you too! Keep up the amazing content you two and thank you for continuing to destigmatize mental health. ❤😊. You two are an amazing couple and I truly appreciate your videos.
Hi Rob and Lauren, You know it really makes me ill for some reason, that people are even asking the question why are you doing this? Because the way you said it, made it seem like they were being a little bit critical or condescending. And if that's how it was, what's wrong with people? like why can't you just do it because you want to do it for various reasons. And one of the great reasons is you're a wonderful husband and you want to support your wife in doing a very difficult thing. It's always easier to do something with a partner than it is alone. I don't know it just felt really wrong for people to be asking in the way it sounded like they were asking. I'm so glad Rob that you are finding benefit clarity and more energy, that is a win a big win in and of itself.🎉❤
Agree. I think people can get quite invasive and judgmental in the comments on this channel.
@@80islandia Hi there, thank you for your reply. I agree with you. and when you said this channel, you know it is this channel, you're right. there is a lot of hate and I think they take down a lot of the negative negative comments I don't know I really can't say for sure. Here's why I think they get a lot of hate because when it's like a medical channel people think and want to think that they have the answer and they know what works because that way they are less frightened if they get ill. Do you see what I'm saying. As for me, I'm disabled I have chronic illnesses I'm in agony with pain it's a very challenging life. It didn't used to be like this. but when I got ME/CFS AT THE AGE OF 24 IT JUST TURNED MY LIFE AROUND. I JUST HAVE NO WAY OF EXPLAINING What has happened because now I'm 66. So many systems of the body get affected when you have ME. So not only do you have that crippling horrific illness, then you get other things. Like I have polyneuropathy and degenerative disc Disease and on and on it goes So whenever I talk to anybody they always have an answer isn't that amazing? they're not doctors they're not holistic doctors they're nothing but they have an answer because it's like what I said I think they need to have an answer to feel secure in the world. Because in the world things happen to good people things happen to people who love God things happen to people for no reason at all and it's a crap shoot. that's the way I see it now living with this for over 40 years.
I'm glad you said something because I think you're right I notice in other channels people get this kind of, have you done this have you done that Why are you doing this Why are you doing that? Poor Lauren who has suffered so much with her mental illness which is one of the hardest there is to live with. I mean if you can't encourage her and see what has happened, the miracle that has happened for her then don't leave a comment you know. I hope you have a good day and I don't know if you're ill or if you have mental illnesses, I do I have complex PTSD and severe depression. I hope I didn't ramble on too much but your reply really made me think Why do people do that? Have a great day or as good of a day as you possibly can.
The biggest thing I notice that is really acute- is waking up in the morning. On Keto I can wake up so easily and am wide awake within 60seconds... off of Keto all I want to to is push snooze and sleep in, and it takes me 15-20 minutes to wake up once I get out of bed and Im still sluggish until i have coffee. And on Keto, caffein is more intense, yet it seems like I dont notice it as much because off of Keto it has a more pronounced feeling of wakefullness. But the peak is not as intense, where as the peak of ceffien on Keto is very stimulating.
The caffeine part actually makes a lot of sense. The caffeine molecules bind with the fats, which mediates the interaction with the receptors in the brain. It’s basically extended release caffeine.
On anti psycotics, for me its hard to wake up, I usally wake up at 10/11 am
Keto (or low carb) means you probably will live longer and prevent insulin resistance and several of the 'modern illnesses' like arthritis or dementia.
The fact that your partner has had a reduction in her symptoms and is more optimistic and healthier than she has been in a long time has to also be a factor in your own ability to perhaps greater concentrate.
I think you need to put a medical disclaimer on some of your videos.
It was no surprise back in the beginning when Lauren mentioned to Us All that you too were along for this Keto Trip Rob! Support is a big deal and as a couple I expected it anyway! I laughed out loud as you mentioned how you were 8 years...er...7 years and 10 months older and we could hear Lauren laughing @ 2:34 🤣 Being honest here, I'm not sure how I would do on this Keto Journey! I'm quite sure there are a ton of positives that come with this experience as well as bad vibes from "side effects" too. I have always found that if and when I made life choices, I knew going into those changes that IF it became a chore, I'd stop and just head off the negativity fast. Appreciate this exploratory video! MOO From COW-lumbus, Ohio 👋
7 yrs and 10 months older than her ...nearly 8 yrs
@@HabibeBoyraz-hg2nk Lauren has kidded Rob in the past about him being much older than her! I just always enjoyed their sparring over the age difference!
Hey. My name is Kevin and I have Schizoaffective disorder. I wish I could change my diet to manage the disease. My thoughts are also Existence precedes essence. You exist before having any concept of who you are. You become who you are by making decisions, choices, and actions. Because we have no given purpose, we have to give one to ourselves. You decide what you value and what your passions are, that becomes the purpose of your life. The meaning of life is to be alive. The purpose of life is whatever you make of it. Because it is yours, and only you can make your decisions.
The purpose of life is to get back to God.
Well put .
@@brentlesheim7084Stop with the nonsense .
Omg plz talk more honestly on this channel Rob!! We love hearing about your perspective supporting Lauren. I wanna hear what communication is like and how do u tell if she is having an episode and how do u support her?
And who are you??
@LivingWellwithSchizophrenia could you do a get started with Keto how to video please? Or is there a cookbook? Thank you for your channel!
Muscle mass improving is a huge win!
This is a good man.
Rob you are a great guy, husband and father. You need your own channel. I would watch. Can we call it low carb Rob?
Where you’ll really see the benefits from Keto is when you go back to eating carbs/the way you used to after being on keto for as long as you have. You’ll then notice the deficit of all the benefits you’re currently getting
Did I miss the recipe for Rob's keto cups?
- can I please have a copy, thanks! Sounds so yummy :ø)
Agree +1
I came to this channel and this guy is a friggin saint. I have all the patience for my ex that I continue to be present for and it is as impossible as it is my joy.
I just wish there’s a coupon to get my time back.
It doesnt have to be a permanent thing, but its really good for regrowing the hippocampus in the brain paired with exercise and reducing carb anxiety if u can't exercise it off.
Its understandable that the benefit would be proportional to issues needing to be addressed. Have you considered not being as restrictive re medical ketosis? Like perhaps just nutritional ketosis?
I also experienced improvement in insight to my general life issues, improvement in cognition, more energy, less anxiety. Much less likely to get disorganized or distracted.
Take some potassium for muscle cramps as well.
Why, it's easier to stick to if your spouse is on it.
Plus there's no reason not to.
There's plenty of reasons not to. Everything has trade offs.
@@Codisrocks I haven't found any downsides to keto. Other than missing a good vehicle for butter
@@AshGreen359 it's often terrible on your kidneys. Bad on your cholesterol and heart. Can hinder athletic performance. There's a number of drawbacks.
Very interesting to get Rob's perspective, especially as he has a sweet tooth like me 😆
" and what not.." Lauren says that alot in her videos. I think it's kind of cool that they sound alike!
you have three options if you want
1. you can make millefuille cheesecakes in a tray like strawberry lemon curd or mango or such
2. Spelt based batter with linseed oil for vit d & light orange concentrate with poppyseeds mini muffins you can freeze the batter in a ziplock bag and cut the cornor off and pipe it into moulds or likes of a waffel iron or donut maker
&
3. ( besides keto cookies)^^^ there is an ability to make egg white roullades kinda like a marshmellow Swiss roll
there are recipies out there
there is also coconut & goats milk icecream ( NIT sorbet or parfait) people have tryed frozen yourgurt the coco rouge is lovely too if you enjoy dark bitter chilli chocolate ( don’t fall for the carnivore flu) enjoy your electrolytes
Would you recommend for someone that is diabetic? I know to check with my doctor but just curious about your thoughts.
Make sure you do philanthropic work and volunteering in community! We need more good folks like you involved in the community shifting the medical paradigm! =D
The body fatcabd muscle is impressive!
look into gaps diet as well and put enohasis in animal
fats
I tend to listen to most to their broadcasts for 3-5 minutes...forwarding when the point is made...sincere statements are made...
It's a big deal that you're doing it along with her. It's so much easier on her that you're doing it too.
Can you speak to contradictions with Lpa and the APOE 4 gene variant
LDL in the context of inflammation is where the risk is
Lpa in the context of high LDL us a problem it’s tough if you have both and also the APOE 4 variant
this did feel kinda forced but he is much more reasonable than many other evangelists, he doesn't think it's a miracle cure and he is realistic about its potential effects being placebo or not reproducible. I think keto can be highly effective for epilepsy and potentially for schizophrenia but I don't think every human should do it and expect their life to improve, the main reason he did it is for lauren which is a valid reason
Mouth taping got rid of my leg cramps on keto.
did you both start the channel together or did lauren run it alone at the start?
My paranoid schizophrenic friend is off 47 years of horrible drugs completely after taking Niacin 500 mg with each main meal (Dr. Abraham HOFFA’s protocol) and 1800 mg daily of NAC, later we added some amino acids and Lithium OROTATE, and PURE B complex plus and pine bark extract. He cannot quite succeed with the Keto diet, but off sugar and getting there but symptom free! Namaste 🙏
You even look healthier then the start.
Why would he support his wife who has breaks from a reality congruent to his, likely a mood disorder, and an eating disorder in her history (and all the internal conflict and baggage that comes with that)? It's because he one day they were standing together in front of friends and family, and he was asked if he agreed to stand beside her through bliss and through hell, and he clearly said "Ride or die, babe". You two keep being awesome by just being you. I'm quite a bit older than my partner, and yeah--longevity becomes a thing especially when you met, and she's in better shape, and now you're watching those years rack up. And then kids, man...so much life, it's so beautiful it makes my knees hurt. No, wait, that was me chasing them around the playground for two hours.
I’d do it but I’m already BADLY plugged up.
So he's kinda the controlgroup
I am not a hater in any way. And it is amazing that it is working. But I will always be nervous that some folks will go off meds and do this. And it has become kinda obsessive you gotta admit.
It would be something to be nervous about, just like when a doctor switches to new for you medication. How will the new medication react for me? Will I have less or more side effects? All things everyone should at least think about when changing treatments. That said, changing to a treatment with no known side effects other than better health, wouldn't make me any more nervous than changing to one with known side effects.
Are you feeding your children a keto diet or a variation off it? I’m curious whether you might do that to hopefully prevent future health problems for them.
They are not feeding the kids a Keto diet.
@@Catlily5thank you x
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Athletes have lower ketone levels bc they are burning them. I'm a LMHR and my ketones have never been above .5. Also my glucose runs higher too, liKe 100. Very common among LMHR.
Good supportive husband.
💐
From what I have read, there have been no large, double blind studies, and the studies have all involved using it as an additional therapy, not a solo therapy, with some benefit.
As with some of the studies that debunked gluten free for kids with autism, we need studies, probably in hospital settings, where people are given what appears to be the exact same food, and doctors and other medical providers also weigh in. No one can know who is getting the placebos. Maybe on group could get protein and fat pills while the other group gets sugar pills, in addition to healthy food? Maybe everybody gets an IV drip once a day, and some get just water while other get sugar water/carbohydrates in the drip? Maybe some just get water pills and a water IV? If the diet works as an adjunct therapy, we need to know why it works, what part of the diet is working, etc.
I want more hard data for my teenaged sons. I will have a hard time getting them to improve their diets. They eat a lot of fat and carbs.
Team meds
Is this medical keto or keto for medical reasons.
are the kids in keto too?
In previous videos it has been shared that they are not.
I think we should stop with these remarks unless there is an actual and financial solution.
I just always thought you were doing Keto, too, because you're a supportive partner. And I'd hope any partner would do the same! :)
Never liked carbs anyway
I used to do keto. But I suck at cooking. Haha
I suck at cooking too. I don't know if I could do Keto.
Who wants to clone Rob? 😂😂
This seems like it may become a dangerous platform for promotingketosis and selling diets and products- likes new niche market. There is more to talk about than ketpsis all the time.
💗😘
Rob, please share your fat bomb recipe you perfected 🙏
Don’t see how this is controversial in any way… and frankly it just makes sense you’d do the diet too for simple practical reasons…
Not like anyone is being forced rat brains or whatever.
Keto diet is helpful for lots of things.
Looking back I realize I should have done the 12 step with my alcoholic ex and his anger management.
I thought that the problem isn't me - but the thing is that I was with him for a reason and it would have made him feel left of a leper and more supported.
The thing is I'm a spoonie so I don't have the energy for the most part - but maybe sometimes I should have tried to come sometimes.
He didn't come to most of my medical appointments and held my hand.
Edit: he DID come to most of my medical appointments stupid autocorrect!!!!!
Can schizophrenic person do job, please explain
is very hard. From my experience, I could do voluntary work
Depends on the person. Many have problems but some can work full time.
You guys even talk the same 😆
Medical ketosis serves a purpose but is overall not healthy for healthy people…. Maybe IF and other things/ but no one should stay on this type of ketofor too long. You can suppprt but also eat some more fruits and vegetables and I’m assuming Lauren has the control for herself now?
This is starting to look like orthorrexia, to be honest. Don’t tell me I didn’t call it 6 months from now.😉
Rob blink twice if you need help
A good one 😈!
@@Highwind452no need to be mean
Keto is good for anybody …. Period… I am well versed in nutrition and a academic Scientific background… we have all been historically brainwashed to eat like Big Agri Inc. wants us to eat..
Move on then 🖐@Highwind452
😂😂😂
You have lost too much weight!
He said that he gained weight...
It seems ketogenic is a form of toxicity.
How so?
Brio leave her ASAP you deserve better
This man is abusing his wife. Also I think he's closeted.
Evidence 🧾,?
Thanks!