I think it's rich that the defendant called her a scam artist when she charged back her card and waited for the plaintiff to contact her for a return. Had the plaintiff not done that, she would've kept the necklace AND the money. What a trash person!
My head just about popped off when the defendant called the plaintiff a scam artist! The defendant was at fault here 100%. I HATE HATE HATE when shitty people get away with ripping others off!
I don’t get why everyone is so upset at the defendant. She did everything she was supposed to do. Both the plaintiff and defendant got a note from the post office. Either the plaintiff is trying to double dip or the post office delivery person stole the item.
@@kevina3372 she wasn't allowed to return in the first place. I, and I believe a lot of other ppl are upset with the defendant because she called the plaintiff a "scammer" Basically if the defendant wouldn't have broken the rules by insisting on a refund and disputing the credit card charge than there wouldn't have been the opportunity for the post office to make the mistake.
This case mad me FURIOUS. The credit card company AND the postal service failed the plaintiff and like she said, it’s exhausting and not even worth pursuing anymore. I hate that this happened smh.
What makes me furious, in addition to what you said, is the Judge is not picking up on the fact that it was July 4th. A US Federal Holiday, and USPS wouldn't be open, delivering packages or anything else.
The defendant is an entitled brat. And to call the plaintiff a scam artist is beyond ridiculous. If the defendant had any integrity at all, she would go after the post office herself, then return any money received to the plaintiff. But she's just too plain selfish.
Excuse me, @Missy Roy, who died and made you judge and jury. The defendant did not act like an entitled brat as you say. And no one called the Plaintiff a scam artist. The judge told the Plaintiff to go after the POST OFFICE. Please pay closer attention and use closed captioning, cause you do not hear so good. Repeat watch this episode and learn somthing.
@@trekgirl65 The defendant called the plaintiff a scam artist in the hallway when talking to Doug. She is entitled because she wanted her money back even when it was stated no refunds, saying it was too small, but there were many pictures that stated the size in a variety of ways. If she were a good person, she would have had more empathy for the plaintiff who is now out a lot of money.
@@trekgirl65 The defendant is *absolutely* an entitled brat. The plaintiff made it clear that all sales were final and there were no returns, but then after the defendant decided that she was above that policy and contested the credit card charge, and the plaintiff told her to just send the item back, she couldn't even bother to insure it, nor did she feel bad that the plaintiff was out both money AND the item... then, on top of that, she had the absolute gall to not only have no remorse for what happened, but to call the plaintiff a scam artist to boot. She is utterly despicable and thinks the world revolves around her.
Yeah she probably dressed up as a USPS worker, delivered a fake package, forged a fake delivery notice, hacked into the USPS system, and planted fake evidence just to not have to return the necklace that she no longer wanted 🙃
@@jedimasters1462 that’s actually a common scam for buyers and sellers. People will send a fake or broken version of something and they’ll have “proof of sending or return” to contest it, or sometimes a fake return will get sent to an address close to the seller so tracking will show it was delivered nearby and the seller will only have their word they didn’t receive something while the sender will have a small bit of proof they sent something, even if that proof is vague.
That defendant was dispicable. She has zero dignity but then made it 100x worse by calling the plaintiff a scam artist. I’ve never wanted to fight a stranger so bad
She did not scam you! What a shame this ended up like this. From experience I say, she would get no where trying to sue the USPS, she would be tied up with them forever.
My post office story - I mailed some VHS tapes to my sister in Japan back in the late 90s. This was before the internet was good so no streaming. I got the package back with all sorts of Japanese stamps on it. I was kind of angry since I was out $30 so I sent it again. A few weeks later I got a hand written apology in broken English from the Japanese postal service along with $64 in brand new American cash. The letter was hand written and said "we are solly, there is no excuse for this." (Yes it actually said 'solly'). I was blown away by this. I don't think I'd get that from the USPS.
Lol I would keep that forever, that is adorable. We don’t get apologies like that anymore. I could TOTALLY see me trying to write in Japanese before internet lol it would have been much worse lol.
I was an Ebay seller for a few years. Like her I am meticulous with pictures and presentations. The defendant calling the Plantiff a scam artist is insulting and absolutely ridiculous.
MILIAN IS WRONG AS USUAL; ALL DELIVERY SERVICES LET THE DRIVERS SIGN AND DUMP THE PACKAGE. THE POST OFFICE LIKE ALL FEDERAL AGENCIES IS SUBJECT TO THE FEDERAL CLAIMS AND TORTS ACT. SHE CAN FILE A FCTA CLAIM WITH THE POST OFFICE(FROMS ARE ON US DEPT OF JUSTICE WEB SITE). THIS IS THE PRE REQUISITE TO SUING ANY FEDERAL AGENCY!!!! MILIAN DOES NOT KNOW THAT????????????????????????????????????????? VERY DUMB DUMB DUMB HOW EVER SHE MAY GET JUST 100 OR THE FULL AMOUNT?????????????????????? IF THE CLAIM IS REJECTED BY THE POST OFFICE AND USA JUSTICE DEPT THEN SHE CAN SUE IN FEDERAL COURT: COST $325 JUST TO FILE A CLAIM!!!!!!!!!!!! THE NEXIUS OF ALL THE LOSS WAS FROM THE CREDIT CARD DISPUTE. SO A REAL JUDGE WOULD MAKE THE POST OFFICE PARTIALLY RESPONSIBLE 50% AND THE CUSTOMER 50% RESPONSIBLE. SHE SHOULD HAVE SUED BOTH THE POST OFFICE AND THE CUSTOMER AND ASK THE JUDGE TO APORTION THE FRAUD AND NEGLIGANCE DAMAGES 50% CUSTOMER AND 50% POST OFFICE.
The defendant is the "scam artist" & a cheater with no integrity, conscience, morals. The defendant stood there as cold as ice calling someone else a scam artist. What more could have the Plaintiff done to be more honest? I doubt she sent the package back! She, herself did the scam, some how some way!!!!!!!! The Plaintiff was the only looser in this case & the defendant was the total winner. The credit card company & the US Post office lost nothing & gained nothing except losing business respect! Total disgusting!!!!!!
I've done this before. I've bought a necklace online and even though there were measurements and a ruler in some images, I honestly thought the piece was bigger due to the images being closeups. It happens. That being said, I immediately acknowledged it was all on me when I went back to the listing and saw the measurements after receiving the item. Not once did I ever have the arrogance to say it wasn't my fault and to try and get a refund for my error.
I've done the same thing with charms; I think it's either much bigger or much smaller because of those tight, close up shots to show off as much detail as possible.
I wonder why the judge couldn't have split the cost of the item or atleast given back all the fees associated with shipping and disputing the charge back. 🤔
Because they drew a new contract. Once the plaintiff agreed to take it back the old policy was out. The new agreement was for the defendant to send it back and she did her part. Ir sucks but it’s the law.
I work for the Post Office. Carriers were allowed to sigh for customers packages only with the recipients PERMISSION. They were instructed to make contact with the customer and ask them if they want to receive it item. If yes, the Carrier was allowed to sigh it COVID-19 and put their route number and initials in the presence of the customer. This was to prevent cross contamination. The best way to get the Post Office to give you your money back in a case like this is to 1. escalate a case with Consumer Affaires, which would get the Post Master involved. 2. File a congressional complaint 3. Sue
I was thinking the same. I'm a mail carrier & I think whoever it was just didn't want to do holiday delivery. Even if the person isn't there, leave them a notice so this doesn't happen.
@@aimeeduhon3303 I happen to suspect the Defendant has a connect with someone who works for the PO, who saw an opportunity in the pandemic to profit financially, albeit imo, illegal. It's certainly immoral. And yes, I'm judging!😊😉
MILIAN IS WRONG AS USUAL; ALL DELIVERY SERVICES LET THE DRIVERS SIGN AND DUMP THE PACKAGE. THE POST OFFICE LIKE ALL FEDERAL AGENCIES IS SUBJECT TO THE FEDERAL CLAIMS AND TORTS ACT. SHE CAN FILE A FCTA CLAIM WITH THE POST OFFICE(FROMS ARE ON US DEPT OF JUSTICE WEB SITE). THIS IS THE PRE REQUISITE TO SUING ANY FEDERAL AGENCY!!!! MILIAN DOES NOT KNOW THAT????????????????????????????????????????? VERY DUMB DUMB DUMB HOW EVER SHE MAY GET JUST 100 OR THE FULL AMOUNT?????????????????????? IF THE CLAIM IS REJECTED BY THE POST OFFICE AND USA JUSTICE DEPT THEN SHE CAN SUE IN FEDERAL COURT: COST $325 JUST TO FILE A CLAIM!!!!!!!!!!!! THE NEXIUS OF ALL THE LOSS WAS FROM THE CREDIT CARD DISPUTE. SO A REAL JUDGE WOULD MAKE THE POST OFFICE PARTIALLY RESPONSIBLE 50% AND THE CUSTOMER 50% RESPONSIBLE. SHE SHOULD HAVE SUED BOTH THE POST OFFICE AND THE CUSTOMER AND ASK THE JUDGE TO APORTION THE FRAUD AND NEGLIGANCE DAMAGES 50% CUSTOMER AND 50% POST OFFICE.
The last part saddens me a bit. Certainly, the defendant's fault, and I'm not happy she won. Feel sorry for the lady. But did no one notice her vest with the imprint of a ruler!? 😃And I salute her for her decision to accept this loss and move on with her life. She'll be alright. And never forget folks, in life, you win some, you lose some.
Thank you, Judge JM. I learned something new today that I won't be doing anymore telling a customer just mail it with insurance and signature request. Just because I don't want the hassle. No Return means No Returns.
@@christopherchance4860 After this ruling I tend to agree with you. Firstly, there is no mail delivery on July 4th in the USA. That date is a federal holiday, because it's the birthday of the United States. It's for that reason the case should have been decided in favor of the plaintiff. Miss Thang, the defendant, has "the plug" at the PO. She's a thief, and the simple testimony of the delivery date, or even the mailing date of July 4th makes all of the defendant's actions suspect. Geez, Marilyn! What in-the-judicial-proceedings is going on with those production assistants and paralegals on this show?? I vehemently disagree with this verdict.
I wouldn’t doubt it if the defendant actually did not send the necklace back but sent an empty package instead just to get a tracking number. She’s the scam artist.
@@Doc_McStuffins it totally makes sense. Either way, she could blame the post office for the necklace missing. If it was delivered with the signature, and the plaintiff opened it up, and nothing was there, she would blame the post office. And because the post office didn’t get her signature, they can be blamed for that also. All she needed was a tracking number and that was it.
I love that a ruler and measurements were a big part of the subject and the plaintiff happened to wear a top/jacket with exactly those things printed on it. Oh the irony!
This sucks for the plaintiff and We're still allowed to sign because Covid is still out here. But we're supposed to initiate contact with the customer before we sign. And if the customer isn't home then we're supposed to leave notice and bring back to the post office.
A SCAM ARTIST? The plaintiff SENT the necklace that the defendant bid on and won! How is the plaintiff a SCAM ARTIST?!!? My jaw DROPPED. That was just STUPID to say!!
@taylorbrickman3872 the Plaintiff is not a scam artist, the defendant is & anyone with a brain can see she is. She got her credit card co. to reverse the sale when she knew the sale was final. The Plaintiff went to great detail to represent her sales items as true as possible. I doubt this was the first fraud this defendant has ever pulled. The only loser in this deal was the Plaintiff! It's amazing the things some people will do to steal from other people! And with no conscience!!!!!
Even if the plaintiff didnt agreed to a return, the defendant would have had to send it anyways if she wanted a return. It was her responcibility to get the item back to the plaintiff. I can't believe jm decided this way. She should have the defendant pay the plaintiff back and have the defendant responsible for getter her money back from the post office. To me, this would have been the fairest justice. Why should the plaintiff have to do more work to get the item back?
she can’t because once the plaintiff changed the original contract and told the defendant she can return it & the defendant did what she said she would by returning it and paying for the signature only then it’s not on the defendant anymore unfortunately. The law isn’t always just and fair. Nice people definitely always finish last.
@@surveysays731 yes. The contract was changed. Then the plaintiff promises to give her money back when she receives the item. Their roles are reverse. The plaintiffs is to give the money back while the defendants responcibility it to return the object. Whether the post office delivers the item to the plaintiff or not is the defendants responcibility, she hired that third party, not the plaintiff. This like Amazon tell you "we sent it, it's your responcibility to make sure the post office gets it to you." That makes no sense. But I mean I am no law expert.
This case made me angry. To the defendant: Karma is coming for you! Yea the post office has some fault but dang, no compassion from the defendant at all what a horrible person.
MILIAN IS WRONG AS USUAL; ALL DELIVERY SERVICES LET THE DRIVERS SIGN AND DUMP THE PACKAGE. THE POST OFFICE LIKE ALL FEDERAL AGENCIES IS SUBJECT TO THE FEDERAL CLAIMS AND TORTS ACT. SHE CAN FILE A FCTA CLAIM WITH THE POST OFFICE(FROMS ARE ON US DEPT OF JUSTICE WEB SITE). THIS IS THE PRE REQUISITE TO SUING ANY FEDERAL AGENCY!!!! MILIAN DOES NOT KNOW THAT????????????????????????????????????????? VERY DUMB DUMB DUMB HOW EVER SHE MAY GET JUST 100 OR THE FULL AMOUNT?????????????????????? IF THE CLAIM IS REJECTED BY THE POST OFFICE AND USA JUSTICE DEPT THEN SHE CAN SUE IN FEDERAL COURT: COST $325 JUST TO FILE A CLAIM!!!!!!!!!!!! THE NEXIUS OF ALL THE LOSS WAS FROM THE CREDIT CARD DISPUTE. SO A REAL JUDGE WOULD MAKE THE POST OFFICE PARTIALLY RESPONSIBLE 50% AND THE CUSTOMER 50% RESPONSIBLE. SHE SHOULD HAVE SUED BOTH THE POST OFFICE AND THE CUSTOMER AND ASK THE JUDGE TO APORTION THE FRAUD AND NEGLIGANCE DAMAGES 50% CUSTOMER AND 50% POST OFFICE.
You know the defendant is not telling the truth when she says that both the auction company and bank told her "you have every right", they're both not going to use that term.
Wow! I almost always agree with Judge Marilyn's verdict, but in this case it should be up to the Defendant to fight it out with the US Post office because they did not complete their contract not allowing the completion of the second agreement between the defendant and plantiff.
Nope. The plaintiff asked for the necklace to be returned via USPS with a signature requirement and that’s exactly what the defendant did. Once the defendant handed the package to the post office, her responsibility to the plaintiff was complete
12:00 Why is JM arguing with the plaintiff. It's clear to all of us, that she took steps to sue the post office. It makes sense that the sender is the only person that can file a case. Do you know how many frivolous lawsuits the post office would have? The judge needs to step out of her little make-believe world!
Got to love the USPS .. I’ve mailed something to same city I live in return receipt requested and it took them 6 months to deliver it and get back to me
@rachieleizabethcharfauros847 OMG what a huge name to have to type girl! Our postman was throwing our mail away. Someone found the mail thrown in the woods just up the road. He got fired by our post office, but got another post job in Indiana!!!! When they don't have integrity they need to be fired...he needs to be found & gotten fired for this bad job. You know he will do this kind of dishonest thing again & again or probably already has! Someone has to go to the trouble. & the Credit card co. taking liberty like they did with no consideration of the circumstances!!!!
its defendants like that, that make businesspeople like the plaintiff appear "cold hearted" in business but its only becasuse they get screwed out of money when they tried to be nice
IF the defendant was a decent person, she would file a claim with the post office to get at least the $100 insurance value and give that to the plaintiff. Because it is SHE who can argue that she paid for signature required and there was none. Strange that she doesn’t feel bad at all. And as far as the item description goes, yes, it indeed looks like a very light, delicate necklace; I do not see any misrepresentation from the auction photos shown. Sad turnout for this case.
The defendant knew it was no returns, knew she was wrong for disputing the charge. That's why she kept looking down with that stupid scarf on her head.
GRRRR...The defendant in this case was so aggravating. Its people like this that make the world unbearable at times. I wish the judge good rule on a "You're a nasty person" basis.
I feel so bad for her! She was so nice and the Postal Service screwed her over and the defendant was really rude and smug. She should have just kept the necklace. It was displayed perfectly. If he didn’t like it too bad. Clear as day no returns.
She should sue the auction site. Next time, she should immediately sue the person, not ask for the item back. If she does ask for the item back, she needs to insist the person buy insurance, and if they refuse, then sue them.
i dont think they deliver mail on holidays. but i do know how they feel. the post office is janky. they stole a watchband out of my mail, they made a little cut/slit on the side of it and took it out. went to the post office and showed them the package it was in and all they said was, was it insured. it was sent to me, well call the company that sent it and tell them you didn't receive it. wow, they didn't care 1 bit that someone that works from them steal, but yet if YOU open somebody's mail its a federal crime
I looked it up & this is what I found... Yes, depending on your claim, you may be able to sue the United States Postal Service (USPS). You can't sue for lost mail, so consider getting insurance for a particular package. You can also send it through certified mail to receive proof that the mail got delivered. Maybe the signature thing will make it an exception but she might be SOL
That’s what I wanted, too! The post office had a contract with the defendant, right? Not the plaintiff. So wouldn’t she be the right one to go after them? I’m probably totally missing some part of the law, but it makes sense to me.🤣
@@Fribee83 I agree. But it wasn’t the plaintiff’s fault either. It’s a really tough one. It just seems the defendant is the one who had a “contract” with the post office, not the plaintiff. And she would have a better chance to get money back from them. But I don’t know the law-not trying to say JM was wrong-just don’t get it and wish it would have gone a different way.
In mailing, it's a contract with basically all three in the sense the recipient is to get the letter or package. The one that failed the contract is the post office.
The plaintiff should have won the full amount and the defendant is the one who would sue the post office. The item was lost during a contract between the defendant and the post office. The judge really messed up on this one.
Y’all don’t know the law and it shows she couldn’t have made it more clear. The defendant did what the plaintiff asked USPS dropped the ball. It was out of the defendants hands, now morally she was wrong but not legally
The contract was between the defendant and the plaintiff. They chose to use the post office as their third party to deliver this package to the plaintiff. The defendant held up her end by sending the package the exact way the plaintiff asked for it to be sent. When the defendant handed the package to the post office, her responsibility to the defendant ended.
The defendant is very probably guilty, primarily because she delayed delivery then "changed her mind" about it and I don't believe she ever sent it back and somehow spoofed the delivery ...- this is a typical eBay scam method of criminal bidders.
I’m triggered by this. I put an item for sale on eBay and said very explicitly I wasn’t sure if the item was authentic. The person wanted to return it saying I lied about it being authentic. eBay forced me to accept the return. It was painful because it was during the pandemic and I was selling items. I actually really loved to try and hustle up some cash to pay bills.
Defendant accusing plaintiff as a scammer just takes the cake. How she was able to get credit card company to side with her doesn’t make sense since companies have agreements with merchants too. Plaintiff should have stuck to her no return policy, do me bad once shame on you, do me bad twice shame on me.
The defendant is an entitled liar! This was such a wrong verdict! The Plaintiff got completely screwed over and she did everything right and was overly generous. No good deed goes unpunished…..ever!!! Trust nobody! It’s unfortunate to say but true. Most people are inherently evil. How can she not see how wrong and despicable she is?!
Y’all are confusing the law and morale. The defendant shipped it back the way the plaintiff requested once it left her hands she was no longer responsible. Go look up the law. Now it would’ve been nice gesture if she went the extra mile. But she’s not a scammer because of USPS mistake
Exactly! I think people are caught up on the way the defendant got her refund which was shady but that’s not the issue here. The issue is at fault for the missing package and she’s not
That Defendant is a horrible person with zero integrity. Then for her to tell Doug that the Plaintive is a scammer when the Defendant herself is an entitled, dishonest horrible creature.
The defendant is such an entitled thief! no empathy, her actions directly caused someone else loss and grief and she calls her a scammer. This just gets me so bigoted now.
How is the plaintiff a scam artist...????? The defendant needs to really check her moral/ integrity compass
The defendant is a nasty B****.
I don't think she has any!
Buyer beware! Moral compass goes both ways, stop the shit!
I think it's rich that the defendant called her a scam artist when she charged back her card and waited for the plaintiff to contact her for a return. Had the plaintiff not done that, she would've kept the necklace AND the money. What a trash person!
The shooter stood firm with her no return policy and we wouldn't be here moron
My head just about popped off when the defendant called the plaintiff a scam artist! The defendant was at fault here 100%. I HATE HATE HATE when shitty people get away with ripping others off!
Right !! I would’ve slapped her if I was her momma for being so ugh on tv
karma will get her
I don’t get why everyone is so upset at the defendant. She did everything she was supposed to do. Both the plaintiff and defendant got a note from the post office. Either the plaintiff is trying to double dip or the post office delivery person stole the item.
@@kevina3372 she wasn't allowed to return in the first place. I, and I believe a lot of other ppl are upset with the defendant because she called the plaintiff a "scammer"
Basically if the defendant wouldn't have broken the rules by insisting on a refund and disputing the credit card charge than there wouldn't have been the opportunity for the post office to make the mistake.
Wow she was so smug with it too!!!
Defendant has some nerve calling the plaintiff a scam artist!! She is 100% the scammer and should be paying out of pocket! She’s a thief- period.
Seriously!!!
It's such a shame that the plaintiff bent her "no returns" rule for someone as derelict as the defendant.
How is she a thief if she returned it. She didn’t keep it. Ur comment is so weird
She’s certainly dressed like one
@@bobbleheadmoe it said no returns the plaintiff did her a favor. You’re weird for not seeing it
This case mad me FURIOUS. The credit card company AND the postal service failed the plaintiff and like she said, it’s exhausting and not even worth pursuing anymore. I hate that this happened smh.
What makes me furious, in addition to what you said, is the Judge is not picking up on the fact that it was July 4th. A US Federal Holiday, and USPS wouldn't be open, delivering packages or anything else.
@@Tattedlady60 good point
All these cases teach me is nice guys really do finish last. I’m so mad for the seller.
Don't forget the defendant, she's most at fault here. Such a dirty person
She shouldn't of been allowed to dispute a credit card charge she willingly mad because she felt the necklace wasn't worth what she paid smh.
The audacity of the defendant, she's the real scam artist
The plaintiff even wore her rulers 📏 to court 😂🤣I love the sweater
I saw that too.. lol. Cute sweater.
@@AmyLeeAngelLovenot even a seamstress would wear such an ugly sweater.
this is a perfect case of "no good deed goes unpunished". unfortunate for the plaintiff that she created a new contract for the return
Yes indeed!
Exactly! It broke my heart because she lost twice, and the judge couldn’t remedy it because her hands were tied.
The worst type of customer. Buyers remorse. Manipulator.
I LOVE THE PLAINTIFF'S JACKET!
That was definitely meant for the defendant. 😆😆😆
I was looking for this comment cuz I love it too!
The plaintiffs jacket is hideous
Yeah that jacket is too cute!
I was in love with her hair! ❤
@@rutalaa you obviously didn't get it...🤷🏻♀️
The defendant is an entitled brat. And to call the plaintiff a scam artist is beyond ridiculous. If the defendant had any integrity at all, she would go after the post office herself, then return any money received to the plaintiff. But she's just too plain selfish.
And lazy. And a thief. And ridiculous.
and Karma doesn't like ridiculous thieves.
Excuse me, @Missy Roy, who died and made you judge and jury. The defendant did not act like an entitled brat as you say. And no one called the Plaintiff a scam artist. The judge told the Plaintiff to go after the POST OFFICE. Please pay closer attention and use closed captioning, cause you do not hear so good. Repeat watch this episode and learn somthing.
@@trekgirl65 The defendant called the plaintiff a scam artist in the hallway when talking to Doug. She is entitled because she wanted her money back even when it was stated no refunds, saying it was too small, but there were many pictures that stated the size in a variety of ways. If she were a good person, she would have had more empathy for the plaintiff who is now out a lot of money.
@@trekgirl65
16:55 clearly YOU are the one who needs to pay attention.
@@trekgirl65 The defendant is *absolutely* an entitled brat. The plaintiff made it clear that all sales were final and there were no returns, but then after the defendant decided that she was above that policy and contested the credit card charge, and the plaintiff told her to just send the item back, she couldn't even bother to insure it, nor did she feel bad that the plaintiff was out both money AND the item... then, on top of that, she had the absolute gall to not only have no remorse for what happened, but to call the plaintiff a scam artist to boot.
She is utterly despicable and thinks the world revolves around her.
The defendant's face is on display for the world to see and her character is displayed for the world to know
Love how you phrased that…100%!
From what it looks like she tried to come into court with that mask/ head scarf wrapped all over to disguise her. I'm glad they made her pull it down.
@@PR-by6eb It could be she is wearing it cause of her religious beliefs
@originaleverythingelseisca5977 If it was because of religious beliefs, they would've allowed her to keep it on.
The Defendant should truly be ashamed of herself. That’s really sad.☹️
I've just got a feeling that the defendant has those pearls at home.
I do too…and this isn’t her first rodeo.
Yeah she probably dressed up as a USPS worker, delivered a fake package, forged a fake delivery notice, hacked into the USPS system, and planted fake evidence just to not have to return the necklace that she no longer wanted 🙃
Dude, she had proof that the judge got a close up look at. She sent them. The only way she kept them is if she put something else in the package.
@@jedimasters1462 that’s actually a common scam for buyers and sellers. People will send a fake or broken version of something and they’ll have “proof of sending or return” to contest it, or sometimes a fake return will get sent to an address close to the seller so tracking will show it was delivered nearby and the seller will only have their word they didn’t receive something while the sender will have a small bit of proof they sent something, even if that proof is vague.
Exactly what I'm saying. The defendant could have put something else in the return and still have the plaintiffs necklace.
That defendant was dispicable. She has zero dignity but then made it 100x worse by calling the plaintiff a scam artist. I’ve never wanted to fight a stranger so bad
I’m right there with you!!!
There's been numerous ones just like her on court shows. Entitled and ridiculous 🙄
LITERALLYYYYY
I agree, this was disgusting! The plaintiff should have just sued the defendant from the very beginning instead of trying to be nice.
Can't wait to see!
What a silly and evil person the defendant is
Check yourself with your greasy eyeballs she shouldn't have returned policy upheld duh
Silly & evil you have a way with your words go watch General Hospital
@@Precise- right like... which is it?
Evil?? Ok... cut the dramatics 😂
The defendant is so full of it
Ikr I wanted her to lose 😼
Newark takes care of its own
Horrible verdict!
She seemed shady 😂
@@maryoaks3228 DEFINITELY SHADY. DUPERS DELIGHT WITH HER SMIRK AT THE END 😏
I hope the defendant sees this to see what people think about her. And the audacity of calling the plaintiff a scammer...
She did not scam you! What a shame this ended up like this. From experience I say, she would get no where trying to sue the USPS, she would be tied up with them forever.
Isn’t the post office closed on July 4th?!?!🤔
That’s what I was thinking. It’s a Government facility
Yes it is!! Why was that missed?
That's what I was thinking... Maybe the defendant had some sort of in with someone at the post office. Very fishy.
3rd party deliveries like fed ex are open everyday.... so just because it's a federal holiday means nothing....
@@erykahmv13 FedEx doesn't deliver USPS packages/mail
This defendant… UGH 😖
Well stated!
I’m so glad that court is back in person.
My post office story - I mailed some VHS tapes to my sister in Japan back in the late 90s. This was before the internet was good so no streaming. I got the package back with all sorts of Japanese stamps on it. I was kind of angry since I was out $30 so I sent it again. A few weeks later I got a hand written apology in broken English from the Japanese postal service along with $64 in brand new American cash. The letter was hand written and said "we are solly, there is no excuse for this." (Yes it actually said 'solly'). I was blown away by this. I don't think I'd get that from the USPS.
WOW-I love this! What a great story!!
I’m solly this happened to you
Ohhh I have sooo many Post office stories. Thwy are the WORST...and as a merchant myself, I often use UPS instead
Lol I would keep that forever, that is adorable. We don’t get apologies like that anymore. I could TOTALLY see me trying to write in Japanese before internet lol it would have been much worse lol.
Japanese are very good people.
I was an Ebay seller for a few years. Like her I am meticulous with pictures and presentations. The defendant calling the Plantiff a scam artist is insulting and absolutely ridiculous.
MILIAN IS WRONG AS USUAL; ALL DELIVERY SERVICES LET THE DRIVERS SIGN AND
DUMP THE PACKAGE. THE POST OFFICE LIKE ALL FEDERAL AGENCIES IS SUBJECT
TO THE FEDERAL CLAIMS AND TORTS ACT. SHE CAN FILE A FCTA CLAIM
WITH THE POST OFFICE(FROMS ARE ON US DEPT OF JUSTICE WEB SITE).
THIS IS THE PRE REQUISITE TO SUING ANY FEDERAL AGENCY!!!!
MILIAN DOES NOT KNOW THAT?????????????????????????????????????????
VERY DUMB DUMB DUMB HOW EVER SHE MAY GET JUST 100 OR THE
FULL AMOUNT??????????????????????
IF THE CLAIM IS REJECTED BY THE POST OFFICE AND USA JUSTICE DEPT
THEN SHE CAN SUE IN FEDERAL COURT: COST $325 JUST TO FILE A CLAIM!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE NEXIUS OF ALL THE LOSS WAS FROM THE CREDIT CARD DISPUTE.
SO A REAL JUDGE WOULD MAKE THE POST OFFICE PARTIALLY RESPONSIBLE 50%
AND THE CUSTOMER 50% RESPONSIBLE. SHE SHOULD HAVE SUED BOTH
THE POST OFFICE AND THE CUSTOMER AND ASK THE JUDGE TO APORTION
THE FRAUD AND NEGLIGANCE DAMAGES 50% CUSTOMER AND 50% POST OFFICE.
The defendant is the "scam artist" & a cheater with no integrity, conscience, morals. The defendant stood there as cold as ice calling someone else a scam artist. What more could have the Plaintiff done to be more honest? I doubt she sent the package back! She, herself did the scam, some how some way!!!!!!!! The Plaintiff was the only looser in this case & the defendant was the total winner. The credit card company & the US Post office lost nothing & gained nothing except losing business respect! Total disgusting!!!!!!
I've done this before. I've bought a necklace online and even though there were measurements and a ruler in some images, I honestly thought the piece was bigger due to the images being closeups. It happens.
That being said, I immediately acknowledged it was all on me when I went back to the listing and saw the measurements after receiving the item. Not once did I ever have the arrogance to say it wasn't my fault and to try and get a refund for my error.
I've done the same thing with charms; I think it's either much bigger or much smaller because of those tight, close up shots to show off as much detail as possible.
Sammeee i just take the L. That’s on me.
Lmao I knew when the defendant came in looking like that that she be on BS 😂
I wonder why the judge couldn't have split the cost of the item or atleast given back all the fees associated with shipping and disputing the charge back. 🤔
Because they drew a new contract. Once the plaintiff agreed to take it back the old policy was out. The new agreement was for the defendant to send it back and she did her part. Ir sucks but it’s the law.
I love the plaintiffs sweater, so much!!!
I work for the Post Office. Carriers were allowed to sigh for customers packages only with the recipients PERMISSION. They were instructed to make contact with the customer and ask them if they want to receive it item. If yes, the Carrier was allowed to sigh it COVID-19 and put their route number and initials in the presence of the customer. This was to prevent cross contamination.
The best way to get the Post Office to give you your money back in a case like this is to
1. escalate a case with Consumer Affaires, which would get the Post Master involved.
2. File a congressional complaint
3. Sue
I was thinking the same. I'm a mail carrier & I think whoever it was just didn't want to do holiday delivery. Even if the person isn't there, leave them a notice so this doesn't happen.
@@aimeeduhon3303 I happen to suspect the Defendant has a connect with someone who works for the PO, who saw an opportunity in the pandemic to profit financially, albeit imo, illegal. It's certainly immoral. And yes, I'm judging!😊😉
It was 2022! How long are they going to use the Covid excuse?!??! Ridiculous!
MILIAN IS WRONG AS USUAL; ALL DELIVERY SERVICES LET THE DRIVERS SIGN AND
DUMP THE PACKAGE. THE POST OFFICE LIKE ALL FEDERAL AGENCIES IS SUBJECT
TO THE FEDERAL CLAIMS AND TORTS ACT. SHE CAN FILE A FCTA CLAIM
WITH THE POST OFFICE(FROMS ARE ON US DEPT OF JUSTICE WEB SITE).
THIS IS THE PRE REQUISITE TO SUING ANY FEDERAL AGENCY!!!!
MILIAN DOES NOT KNOW THAT?????????????????????????????????????????
VERY DUMB DUMB DUMB HOW EVER SHE MAY GET JUST 100 OR THE
FULL AMOUNT??????????????????????
IF THE CLAIM IS REJECTED BY THE POST OFFICE AND USA JUSTICE DEPT
THEN SHE CAN SUE IN FEDERAL COURT: COST $325 JUST TO FILE A CLAIM!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE NEXIUS OF ALL THE LOSS WAS FROM THE CREDIT CARD DISPUTE.
SO A REAL JUDGE WOULD MAKE THE POST OFFICE PARTIALLY RESPONSIBLE 50%
AND THE CUSTOMER 50% RESPONSIBLE. SHE SHOULD HAVE SUED BOTH
THE POST OFFICE AND THE CUSTOMER AND ASK THE JUDGE TO APORTION
THE FRAUD AND NEGLIGANCE DAMAGES 50% CUSTOMER AND 50% POST OFFICE.
Something is Def off about that defendant.....
Packages on the 4th of July? Maybe mailman said ah just give it to my wife.... 😂😂😂😂
Good for you Judge! You call out the defendant right away !!
The last part saddens me a bit. Certainly, the defendant's fault, and I'm not happy she won. Feel sorry for the lady. But did no one notice her vest with the imprint of a ruler!? 😃And I salute her for her decision to accept this loss and move on with her life. She'll be alright. And never forget folks, in life, you win some, you lose some.
Thank you, Judge JM. I learned something new today that I won't be doing anymore telling a customer just mail it with insurance and signature request. Just because I don't want the hassle. No Return means No Returns.
time to retire this judge, let her go home and yell at her husband
@@christopherchance4860 retire why? for making the correct legal decision?
@@christopherchance4860 LoL
@@christopherchance4860 ghehehe some comments out of the blue, this was a funny one.
@@christopherchance4860 After this ruling I tend to agree with you. Firstly, there is no mail delivery on July 4th in the USA. That date is a federal holiday, because it's the birthday of the United States. It's for that reason the case should have been decided in favor of the plaintiff. Miss Thang, the defendant, has "the plug" at the PO. She's a thief, and the simple testimony of the delivery date, or even the mailing date of July 4th makes all of the defendant's actions suspect. Geez, Marilyn! What in-the-judicial-proceedings is going on with those production assistants and paralegals on this show?? I vehemently disagree with this verdict.
I wouldn’t doubt it if the defendant actually did not send the necklace back but sent an empty package instead just to get a tracking number.
She’s the scam artist.
I agree
Nope. The post office stole it. I promise you that. I know, because they stole from me before
@akairi yahiko sometimes, those mail carriers can be shady and steal when opportunities come
And lucked out that the package never arrived? That doesn't make sense.
@@Doc_McStuffins it totally makes sense. Either way, she could blame the post office for the necklace missing. If it was delivered with the signature, and the plaintiff opened it up, and nothing was there, she would blame the post office. And because the post office didn’t get her signature, they can be blamed for that also. All she needed was a tracking number and that was it.
I love that a ruler and measurements were a big part of the subject and the plaintiff happened to wear a top/jacket with exactly those things printed on it. Oh the irony!
The defendant is a disgusting human being
This sucks for the plaintiff and We're still allowed to sign because Covid is still out here. But we're supposed to initiate contact with the customer before we sign. And if the customer isn't home then we're supposed to leave notice and bring back to the post office.
I'm wondering if the postal worker decided to keep it. They steal gift cards from the post and sometimes cash so it's not a far fetch.
A SCAM ARTIST? The plaintiff SENT the necklace that the defendant bid on and won! How is the plaintiff a SCAM ARTIST?!!? My jaw DROPPED. That was just STUPID to say!!
@taylorbrickman3872 the Plaintiff is not a scam artist, the defendant is & anyone with a brain can see she is. She got her credit card co. to reverse the sale when she knew the sale was final. The Plaintiff went to great detail to represent her sales items as true as possible. I doubt this was the first fraud this defendant has ever pulled. The only loser in this deal was the Plaintiff! It's amazing the things some people will do to steal from other people! And with no conscience!!!!!
Even if the plaintiff didnt agreed to a return, the defendant would have had to send it anyways if she wanted a return. It was her responcibility to get the item back to the plaintiff. I can't believe jm decided this way. She should have the defendant pay the plaintiff back and have the defendant responsible for getter her money back from the post office. To me, this would have been the fairest justice. Why should the plaintiff have to do more work to get the item back?
That's what I was thinking too. She should have ruled in the plaintiff's favor and then let the defendant go after the post office.
she can’t because once the plaintiff changed the original contract and told the defendant she can return it & the defendant did what she said she would by returning it and paying for the signature only then it’s not on the defendant anymore unfortunately. The law isn’t always just and fair. Nice people definitely always finish last.
@@surveysays731 yes. The contract was changed. Then the plaintiff promises to give her money back when she receives the item. Their roles are reverse. The plaintiffs is to give the money back while the defendants responcibility it to return the object. Whether the post office delivers the item to the plaintiff or not is the defendants responcibility, she hired that third party, not the plaintiff. This like Amazon tell you "we sent it, it's your responcibility to make sure the post office gets it to you." That makes no sense. But I mean I am no law expert.
I am so sick to hear about this show being canceled. Thanks for the knowledge judge ML
Wow... the defendant... no words for that attitude. Sad that people could be like that. This is our world now.
P.s FJB
What attitude. She barley spoke lol
@@bobbleheadmoe what she said at the end spoke volumes. Open your ears JACK! LOL
FJB. Exactly!
@@chrisdoherty6847 look at that’s poster’s name. They are a bobblehead like the defendant lol
Always how the world has been.
This case made me angry. To the defendant: Karma is coming for you! Yea the post office has some fault but dang, no compassion from the defendant at all what a horrible person.
MILIAN IS WRONG AS USUAL; ALL DELIVERY SERVICES LET THE DRIVERS SIGN AND
DUMP THE PACKAGE. THE POST OFFICE LIKE ALL FEDERAL AGENCIES IS SUBJECT
TO THE FEDERAL CLAIMS AND TORTS ACT. SHE CAN FILE A FCTA CLAIM
WITH THE POST OFFICE(FROMS ARE ON US DEPT OF JUSTICE WEB SITE).
THIS IS THE PRE REQUISITE TO SUING ANY FEDERAL AGENCY!!!!
MILIAN DOES NOT KNOW THAT?????????????????????????????????????????
VERY DUMB DUMB DUMB HOW EVER SHE MAY GET JUST 100 OR THE
FULL AMOUNT??????????????????????
IF THE CLAIM IS REJECTED BY THE POST OFFICE AND USA JUSTICE DEPT
THEN SHE CAN SUE IN FEDERAL COURT: COST $325 JUST TO FILE A CLAIM!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE NEXIUS OF ALL THE LOSS WAS FROM THE CREDIT CARD DISPUTE.
SO A REAL JUDGE WOULD MAKE THE POST OFFICE PARTIALLY RESPONSIBLE 50%
AND THE CUSTOMER 50% RESPONSIBLE. SHE SHOULD HAVE SUED BOTH
THE POST OFFICE AND THE CUSTOMER AND ASK THE JUDGE TO APORTION
THE FRAUD AND NEGLIGANCE DAMAGES 50% CUSTOMER AND 50% POST OFFICE.
The Post Office is CLOSED on every 7-4, isn't it??
It's so hard not to go straight to the comments 🤣🤣
The USPS is the WORST. I avoid sending anything through the mail. It has to be the most disorganized and disfunctional entity in business.
Its a fkn standard ruler, where is the defense? The rules don’t apply to her apparently.
Disputing a charge that you know was non refundable. The defendant has no integrity.
The defendant called the the plaintiff, a scam, artist… The audacity!
You know the defendant is not telling the truth when she says that both the auction company and bank told her "you have every right", they're both not going to use that term.
The defendant will get what’s coming to her. SMH the legal system 🙄
This a messed up situation for sure
Wow! I almost always agree with Judge Marilyn's verdict, but in this case it should be up to the Defendant to fight it out with the US Post office because they did not complete their contract not allowing the completion of the second agreement between the defendant and plantiff.
and were they delivering mail on the 4th of July?
@@missj5191 sometimes they do. I’ve had USPS deliver on holidays before if they’re behind
Nope. The plaintiff asked for the necklace to be returned via USPS with a signature requirement and that’s exactly what the defendant did. Once the defendant handed the package to the post office, her responsibility to the plaintiff was complete
I agree seeing that the Post Office won’t give the plaintiff any info. The least the defendant can do is look into it for her. 🤦🏾♀️
@@lynne709 Yes. Again,JM is blatantly wrong. Let the Post Office address the issue.
12:00 Why is JM arguing with the plaintiff. It's clear to all of us, that she took steps to sue the post office. It makes sense that the sender is the only person that can file a case. Do you know how many frivolous lawsuits the post office would have? The judge needs to step out of her little make-believe world!
I don't think the plaintiff tried to sue because she can legally sue anyone.
Should’ve sued the post office no matter what it took. This is why they did it in the first place cause they feel no one will take the time
Why is her scarf like that its annoying me
I’m guessing she’s muslim
I think so also but it is not supposed to look like that but oh well
i think she is wearing it wrong, it's suppose to be a hijab i think she just messed up 🧕 < is how it's suppose to look 😂 it's annoying me too.
@@evonnawatford8054 yes i agree
Judge should awarded it to the plaintiff because the defendant had the contract with the post office she could sue the post office
Got to love the USPS .. I’ve mailed something to same city I live in return receipt requested and it took them 6 months to deliver it and get back to me
@rachieleizabethcharfauros847 OMG what a huge name to have to type girl! Our postman was throwing our mail away. Someone found the mail thrown in the woods just up the road. He got fired by our post office, but got another post job in Indiana!!!! When they don't have integrity they need to be fired...he needs to be found & gotten fired for this bad job. You know he will do this kind of dishonest thing again & again or probably already has! Someone has to go to the trouble. & the Credit card co. taking liberty like they did with no consideration of the circumstances!!!!
Something tells me that she kept that necklace smh the postal service failed the plaintiff
So nevermind all the evidence that shows she sent it back huh?
I ❤ how the plaintiff has a ruler on her outfit and how rulers were an important part of the case.
I clicked so fast because I thought the plaintiff was Stacey London! 🤣🤣🤣
Except her attire is What Not To Wear.....(wait a minute, maybe that makes sense 🤔 I've confused myself.....)
@@supportvawa2213 😂😂😂
How I miss that show!!
@@juliecranford534 me too! I never missed an episode.
@@mrshappilymarried1 Same here!!! It was the best!!
No good deed goes unpunished
Plot twist she sent and empty parcel! 😂
This was a crazy case!!! I feel bad for the seller
its defendants like that, that make businesspeople like the plaintiff appear "cold hearted" in business but its only becasuse they get screwed out of money when they tried to be nice
How is she a scam artist when she had a measuring tape to show you the size ? Smh postal service needs to be reliable for situations like this
IF the defendant was a decent person, she would file a claim with the post office to get at least the $100 insurance value and give that to the plaintiff. Because it is SHE who can argue that she paid for signature required and there was none. Strange that she doesn’t feel bad at all. And as far as the item description goes, yes, it indeed looks like a very light, delicate necklace; I do not see any misrepresentation from the auction photos shown. Sad turnout for this case.
This is why you don't bend your policies. Hope she has a change of heart and sues the post office.
Someone stole the package..the post office is not responsible for stolen package..
How do we know the necklace was actually in the envelope she mailed?
I thought the same thing. Defendant is shady.
I didn't think of that. Wow
She probably went and took the empty envelope
Defendant is delusional. She got lucky.
The defendant knew it was no returns, knew she was wrong for disputing the charge. That's why she kept looking down with that stupid scarf on her head.
The plaintiff's sweater rules!
I see what you did there 😂📏
@@ACETHEEGR8 😅
The plaintiff is not out both the necklace and the $900, she's only out the necklace.
Yes, plus the $30 fee from the bank for the reversals, plus her court filing costs.
The defendant has no shame whatsoever unbelievable..
GRRRR...The defendant in this case was so aggravating. Its people like this that make the world unbearable at times. I wish the judge good rule on a "You're a nasty person" basis.
What a great cardigan on the plantiff!
I feel so bad for her! She was so nice and the Postal Service screwed her over and the defendant was really rude and smug. She should have just kept the necklace. It was displayed perfectly. If he didn’t like it too bad. Clear as day no returns.
This case was wild. Sucks the Plantiff lost
In NC the post office won't deliver anything on the 4th of July. Weird as to why In this case.
Lol the defendant takes no responsibility for not understanding the size of the necklace, kind of entitled. Interesting case.
Also takes no responsibility for understanding and accepting NO RETURNS. And gets by with that.
She should sue the auction site. Next time, she should immediately sue the person, not ask for the item back. If she does ask for the item back, she needs to insist the person buy insurance, and if they refuse, then sue them.
i dont think they deliver mail on holidays. but i do know how they feel. the post office is janky. they stole a watchband out of my mail, they made a little cut/slit on the side of it and took it out. went to the post office and showed them the package it was in and all they said was, was it insured. it was sent to me, well call the company that sent it and tell them you didn't receive it. wow, they didn't care 1 bit that someone that works from them steal, but yet if YOU open somebody's mail its a federal crime
Unfortunately we do deliver packages everyday day except Christmas and Thanksgiving.
I looked it up & this is what I found...
Yes, depending on your claim, you may be able to sue the United States Postal Service (USPS). You can't sue for lost mail, so consider getting insurance for a particular package. You can also send it through certified mail to receive proof that the mail got delivered.
Maybe the signature thing will make it an exception but she might be SOL
Wish judge Millán would give the plaintiff her money and have the defendant deal with the post office
That’s what I wanted, too! The post office had a contract with the defendant, right? Not the plaintiff. So wouldn’t she be the right one to go after them? I’m probably totally missing some part of the law, but it makes sense to me.🤣
Agreed. The post office definitely sucks more since covid....
But it's not the defendant's fault. What did the defendant do in the returning of the item that showed the lost package was their fault?
@@Fribee83 I agree. But it wasn’t the plaintiff’s fault either. It’s a really tough one. It just seems the defendant is the one who had a “contract” with the post office, not the plaintiff. And she would have a better chance to get money back from them. But I don’t know the law-not trying to say JM was wrong-just don’t get it and wish it would have gone a different way.
In mailing, it's a contract with basically all three in the sense the recipient is to get the letter or package. The one that failed the contract is the post office.
Scam artist calling someone else a scam artist. Rich.
The plaintiff should have won the full amount and the defendant is the one who would sue the post office. The item was lost during a contract between the defendant and the post office. The judge really messed up on this one.
Y’all don’t know the law and it shows she couldn’t have made it more clear. The defendant did what the plaintiff asked USPS dropped the ball. It was out of the defendants hands, now morally she was wrong but not legally
The contract was between the defendant and the plaintiff. They chose to use the post office as their third party to deliver this package to the plaintiff. The defendant held up her end by sending the package the exact way the plaintiff asked for it to be sent. When the defendant handed the package to the post office, her responsibility to the defendant ended.
I agree 💯. Plaintiff should of received her money then the defendant could sue the post office
Sooooo... Since when is the post office open on the 4th of July is what I wanna know 🤔🤔🤔
What?? The defendant is the scam artist 😮 a mess
The plaintiff wearing a vest with a ruler on 😂
The defendant is very probably guilty, primarily because she delayed delivery then "changed her mind" about it and I don't believe she ever sent it back and somehow spoofed the delivery ...- this is a typical eBay scam method of criminal bidders.
Post office is full of crap and since when do they deliver packages on federal holidays?
I’m triggered by this. I put an item for sale on eBay and said very explicitly I wasn’t sure if the item was authentic. The person wanted to return it saying I lied about it being authentic. eBay forced me to accept the return. It was painful because it was during the pandemic and I was selling items. I actually really loved to try and hustle up some cash to pay bills.
Somebody working at the post office walking around with that necklace on their neck...
This is outrageous!!!!!!!!!!!!
Defendant accusing plaintiff as a scammer just takes the cake. How she was able to get credit card company to side with her doesn’t make sense since companies have agreements with merchants too. Plaintiff should have stuck to her no return policy, do me bad once shame on you, do me bad twice shame on me.
What an expensive lesson she should’ve told the plaintiff to insure the item
The defendant is an entitled liar! This was such a wrong verdict! The Plaintiff got completely screwed over and she did everything right and was overly generous. No good deed goes unpunished…..ever!!! Trust nobody! It’s unfortunate to say but true. Most people are inherently evil. How can she not see how wrong and despicable she is?!
Y’all are confusing the law and morale. The defendant shipped it back the way the plaintiff requested once it left her hands she was no longer responsible. Go look up the law. Now it would’ve been nice gesture if she went the extra mile. But she’s not a scammer because of USPS mistake
ALL SALES ARE FINAL
God you're pathetically predictable 🙄
Another relative?? 🤣
@@jessicainhofe703 your mother should’ve swallowed you, twat ass pencil head bitch. Clearly the plaintiff is the one who told her to send it
Oh is this where you talk some low IQ smack and then delete it again? lol t-rash
Exactly! I think people are caught up on the way the defendant got her refund which was shady but that’s not the issue here. The issue is at fault for the missing package and she’s not
That Defendant is a horrible person with zero integrity. Then for her to tell Doug that the Plaintive is a scammer when the Defendant herself is an entitled, dishonest horrible creature.
I don't believe the defendant ever mailed it.
The Plantiff had proof, the Post Office messed up but the Defendant was wrong for disputing!!! Either Postal Worker stole it or her neighbors!!
Lol. Dude you watch the case at all? That fact is never in question.
The defendant is such an entitled thief! no empathy, her actions directly caused someone else loss and grief and she calls her a scammer. This just gets me so bigoted now.