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Homefront was hated by the media, because it was launched in the height of the economic downfall trailing to 2008 and they want to push this narrative of America never fails, everything around that topic are not going to sell.
@@stuart4341 I didnt know Poland had Tesco so you just taught me something new but yeah we had a big tesco and there were like toy idles and a whole video game idle with xbox, ps and wii games and cds then we had a little clothing section its more common in bigger stores
Homefront: The Revolution is admirable as a product of small studio development. Their commitment to the craft is reflected in the effort to patch the game into playability and in the DLC. In my opinion, it is a very enjoyable gaming experience; it scratches a Far Cry itch.
H:TR doesn't get nearly enough praise for what it attempted, and what it did well. Roaming those green zones, _seeing_ people live under occupation, and _seeing_ the district change as you incite anarchy -- most "you're a freedom fighter" type games (including the original Homefront!) tell, don't show, that stuff. You get at best a canned scene where they try and cram it all in before becoming a straight up military shooter. Even one of my favourites, Freedom Fighters, only really _tells_ you things are bad. IOI did a good job showing change from level to level but in H:TR, seeing people actually jump soldiers in the street and start vandalising.. it felt like the game was at least trying to embody the theme.
I only played the first one, and while it was decent and fun to play (I suspended my disbelief about North Korea invading the U.S.; reminded me of Red Dawn), I never played it again. It had no staying power, no replay value... Leadership must be blamed again. Stop letting these corporate hounds fail upwards.
I just found the entire plot to Homefront idiotic. You're told the entire game that you're an incredibly valuable asset to the resistance as you can fly a helicopter, but when you get to the final mission, not only are there hundreds of helicopter pilots there, but you're then stuck on a gunners seat for the assault.
It was idiotic, and I'm tired of the usual gaming nostalgia ridden clowns all of a sudden flooding this game with videos over the last month "well ackshually"' 'ing this game. It failed because the entire premise was laughably stupid. Everything about the plot and the story was idiotic. People bought this game because it had a timesplitters 2 full version inside of it, no other reason.
@@cococock2418 Absolutely, that's the reason why I bought it. Especially as people discovered it has the entire cancelled HD remaster of the game in the code. But is this the current flavour of the month game to be teary eyed about? Last month it was that bloody PS2 Winnie the Pooh Piglet game that I guarantee no one actually bought at the time.
@@cococock2418 I had no idea what Timesplitters was when Homefront came out, and I barely know anything about it now. I didn't buy Homefront for Timesplitters 2, I bought it because I loved Frontlines Fuel of War and Homefront looked to continue that kind of game the studio had been known for at that point. And I don't personally think the story/premise was stupid, in fact except for the ending I thought the story was fairly well done for what it was. It wasn't some incredibly deep SP or anything, but NK invading the US was and still is pretty unique for the genre.
Homefront did something i'm surprised wasn't jumped on by a lot of other companies. A Red Dawn style game. I liked both of them but they were clearly not in the best of shape. I still remember the mission where you dropped the white phospherus rockets on your own guys. Such a crazy moment to see in a game. I would like Homefront in some way to come back, obviously better made but I think it could be a great hit if in the right hands.
Played Homefront 2 earlier this year all bugs and glitches resolved. It was a good quality, solid game. Very Far Cry esque but in an urban setting. Really enjoyed it.
One guy called "suk my turban" made a bunch of videos which while edgy and comedic laid out all the reasons why the SOCOM franchise was an empty shell of its former self by the final few games.
@@ChucksSEADnDEADloved SOCOM. Still have all of them from the original, all the way up to confrontation and 4. I still check for new updates and rumors of a new game every month.
I’m so sad that series died…but it honestly wasn’t surprising. I remember playing 3 and hearing someone mentioning they might jump on Confrontations. I asked them how the campaign was and their legitimate response was “ha! Thing dudes asking about the campaign! …it’s only multiplayer.” Even back then I knew that was the death of the series. I honestly don’t even remember if there was any games after that. I only really remember learning how to ‘mod’ it and give my dude the bright orange ‘camo’ that was originally used for the bomb bags.
One of the reasons I pre-ordered Homefront the Revolution was I suspected, unfortunately correctly, that it would be the closest we got to a Freedom Fighters 2 for a long time. I still despise whatever idiots decided not to make Freedom Fighters 2 when it was announced. I refuse to play the Kane and Lynch games because I read somewhere that Freedom Fighters 2 was abandoned to work on the first one.
Homefront was the first multiplayer game I played after first getting xbox live. I really loved the games multiplayer and remember trying to get the achievement for having a full private match only for it to glitch out for everyone
At that time, I was a console only player. I was well into my military career. I enjoyed the single player campaign tremendously. I had no idea that it wasn't well received. The very dark theme and setting really set it apart from the sanitized war time scenarios of other games.
So I worked as a QA tester for a contractor for Northern Front, Bad Company 2, and then Homefront, among other titles. I was there during the end of development for multiplayer. At the end, before launch, the general feeling we got from the internal team was optimistic. Although our external team was upset as our company and contractors were not credited. That was suposed to be part of the contract. This created a trend where I have never been credited on any game I worked on, even when I was working directly at EA... Welp, I dont make games anymore, so will no longer be a problem.
I remember it as dark FPS where you could literally see the horror of war, hell they show you a sequence where parents got pew pew in front of their toddlers kid, that kid cries still haunts me
The original was an unabashed Call of Duty clone; it wore the theme like a skin but outside of that, it played identical to the yearly COD release. H:TR actually did some interesting things. You could (and had to) play hit and run with occupying soldiers. You could set up traps for patrols. You'd see districts change as a result of your actions, see civilians previously being kicked around by troops now jumping them with bats in the street. Honestly, H:TR is closer to what I wanted Homefront to be from the start, and it's worth re-assessing especially with the DLC. I'll take a game that aimed high and fell a little short, over a game that was bang average.
agree, i have the game and i was surprised how i had to use legit guerilla tactics and actually worth it way better than camping one house down with the LMG and shotgun lol Unfortunately, when the game started to become good, it ended The game also has a shitton of plotholes, like there's a certain cutscene where one IFV just destroys like 20 or so rebels when every 3rd person has an RPG, but in the beginning people demolish the whole eastern front of WW2 with a pistol and a couple of explosive barrels, it also happens in the later game, you in yourself can demolish whatever amount of stuff, can max out your stuff all you want, in a random cutscene you'll get Moe Lestered by the easiest enemy of the game. And sometimes it refuses to tell you anything before getting into the mission, like there's one mission where you have to eliminate some kind of supervisor in a plantation, but they don't tell you how they look like, they just say "just scan everybody in, till then gg hf", and even when you scan people in the voiceline that indicates that you actually scanned the person the game wants, it only differs by like 1 word from the voiceline that tells you it's not your target, and if you just zone out for a second then you can go and shoot everyone because even after scanning the target, the game won't indicate who's actually the target. The game unfortunately just sucks in the gameplay, i mean i really liked that the guerilla tactics actually worked better (as the game indicated) than the casual camping, but outside this part it sucks ass
The multiplayer was DAMN AMAZING!! Also, the ability to change attachments on the weapons on the match was part of the original Homefront too. It was not added as a new thing on the sequel. I got Homefront the revolution as soon as it was out at full price, Knowing it was not gonna be really good. But I wanted to show support to the game.
I would still love a third one , the first one had potential story wise (is the scenario realistic ?? , no but still ) having missions outside the US like in Asia or the middle east , we could still have that with a third one, i dont think it will happen but still we can dream ,the first one was unique with its style, and the second one did guerrilla warfare right with its mechanics
The situation is realistic, it's just implausible because of all of the requirements for such an event to take place. Saying it's impossible is like saying it's impossible for the Roman Empire to fall. All it takes is one mistake and the dominos fall down hard. The key things that allow this game to happen was the situation in the middle east getting even worse than it is in real life today... so much so that the gas jumped to $20 in-game by 2024. Somedays we're not too far from that if you really stop and think... and with Syria having a bit of a civil war if the wrong side wins we could very well see gas hitting almost that high... when it takes $400 a day to drive a SINGLE mail truck we'll learn right quick how valuable our vehicles were. I'm not saying we're going to fall to N.Korea irl but if we hit that kind of rock bottom that's just blood in the water for Russia, China or soemone else to take advantage of. If you don't have the fuel to power your tanks... how are you going to use your tanks?
the story of Trauma Studios was my wake up call that I just could not work in the games industry the idea of achieving your dream just to be fucked over at literally every turn, used, and then discarded is just not something I could tolerate
It was good it was just worse than the game before it and thq for some reason advertised the single player. They spent a lot on marketing. Like they likely had a net loss from the marketing. And the reviews weren't bad for the multiplayer which is what anyone who followed the studio cared about. They should have dumped the single player entirely and made a multiplayer only shooter similar to battlefield and released spending half the budget.
the campaign was probably the most off-putting single player experience i had had when i played it. many dull moments and story beats, with frequent roadblocks where you need to wait for an NPC to do something for you to proceed. Also, i felt the multiplayer to be incredibly unfriendly to a new player, and my memory of it is limited to me getting smoked by the same pwrson over and over again in every match
That was probably me. But basically anyone who played older battlefield titles or their front lines fuel of war game had a massive head start on people. The gunfeel was similar.
They definitely switched to korea as an enemy to not get banned in china. I never played the game, but i felt like the story was way too implausible and wondered why they didnt pick china. I know they probably tried to explain it but it just didn't make sense at a glance.
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I remember playing the beta for the original homefront. My friends and i would get out of school and run home to play the multiplayer together. It had jank but it was better than most games we get now, it was a complete game
I remember the game launched with a bug that would make the disc unreadable. Had to exchange it 2-3 times before I got a good one.I liked and enjoyed the Sp. thought the baseball field part was a little eye opening. The MP was fine too. Thought it was more BF then COD.
I fontly remember the multiplayer of Homefront 2. It was just fun. You had limited skill points to make your character, you could build your character towards Full frontal assault guy, to gadgeteer, to stealth assassin or a mix of all and do missions entirely solo by catering to your speciality. Sneak into the enemy base, go past the enemy sentries and plant remote activated bombs on all objectives before sneaking back out and detonating them all. Take out all enemy sentries one by one with a sniper rifle from afar or sam fisher mode from close up. Go in guns blazing into the base and blow everything up. Drive remote controlled RC cars into the enemy base and blow up soldiers and objectives alike. It had so many ways to finish missions that just blew my mind. On top of that you got "Random" equipment items that further enhanced your character build, getting more armor, health, better stealth, climbing speed, weapond raw speed, steadyness, etc etc.
Honestly i loved the original HomeFront, for me the campaign was grewsome and interesting. The multiplayer was really fun and i definitely loved the points system, i enjoyed the customization in the game and the maps were rather nice to play on. i know multiplayer had a ropey start with servers not being able to handle all the players trying to play it and took a while to get into a game due to the ques, but it definitely distracted me from playing call of duty. i was gutted when multiplayer died and the servers shut down.
I was so excited for home front and then 4 hours into the play through the credits started to roll. I threw it in a bin and never thought of it again until I saw this video. I didn’t even know they made a sequel
I played the original Homefront a good amount on XBOX 360. I remember the gameplay being pretty good with a short, but exciting, single player. The reason I didn't play it more was the lack of players. It was very hard finding lobbies with even 1/4 full.
A slight mistake in the Revolution story section. The US bought its equipment from North Korea in this timeline not vice versa. They didn't have to hack the software the back doors to shut it down were bult in from the beginning. Edit I don't know if I were running a Resistance movement in an area with a lot of homeless people giving them what money, food, and medicines we could spare to help win their support sounds like a good idea to me. Edit 2: I own both games. I got Homefront not long after getting my PS3 in November 2011, and Homefront the Revolution was the first newly released PS4 game I got once I got my first PS4 that month. That was the age where people got absurdly over sensitive to bugs IMO. As long as a game runs at least as well as the Fallout PS3 ports do its ok and the Revolution was nothing close to being that bad. I would take a game with some glitches I can play while the developers work to fix the issues now over a bug free version six months or a year later any day.
Oh man the nostalgia is killing me. I played casual online matches with some of the Trauma guys while they were still making DCF. I was also a huge fan of the Forgotten Hope mod, and always wished a big studio would've picked them up. But then again, that may have been a bad thing for them eventually, like in this case with Homefront.
Dude you just unlocked a memory. I worked at GameStop when this launched, and I was trying to remember why we had cases of full throttle, it was for the release of this game, we were supposed to give these out for reserves and purchases of the game.
One good thing i will say about homefront the revolution, it does accurately depict guerrilla warfare/hit and run tactics pretty well and could have been a really good game
The OG homefront was a great game, so was frontlines. I still remember how much I liked the multiplayer customization of the weapons, good ole Diablo sights are the first thing that pop in my head when I see “hk” style battle sights
My issue when I played it was how bad the gunplay felt. When you're a FPS going against Halo, CoD, Battlefield where all the weapons feel incredible, it felt awful playing HF where the weapons had no weight and felt off
I was, like, 11 when homefront released, and a certain mayan prophecy I had heard about around that time had me fearing all sorts of potential doomsday scenarios, of which "the united states being invaded" was one, so although the game was on my radar, it scared the hell out of me and I never played it it's kinda sad to see development was as messy as it was, though; and if I wasn't terrified of it at the time, I probably would've liked it
The sector by sector gameplay seemed neat, but needed some kind of expert on actual underground resistance movements to advise the programmers on gameplay tasks and structure. Maybe a similar game with better design and structure will come around. Mad Max and Shadow of Mordor would be good guidelines for that I think!
The game early on felt really nice, as if it was setting up for some sort of branching storyline where you'd do missions from that safe haven in the backyard. Instead what we got was little more than garbage sent our way. I love the game, I still play it from time to time, but the entire game could have been better if they just did something different.
One small forgotten part of Homefront was it predicted Covid. Military shooters that survived CODification all had their own selling points. The cover of Homefront was definitely one of the most eye catching ones I’ve ever seen, and probably the only thing that stood out among all the COD-likes. I don’t think North Korea was the issue. Crysis worked with North Korea and heck COD Ghost even had Venezuela.
Crysis was detached enough from reality to get away with that. It also helps that by halfway they're out of focus as the primary antagonist role shifts to the Ceph
I played a bit of the first one at a friend’s house. Then I picked up the second one for $5 at Gamestop one day. It’s not stellar, but it is a lot of fun. I play through it annually.
A bit of PC game history. The predecessor of Battlefield 1942, was a rather good game called “Codename Eagle”, also an alternative history game, which had the original formula of air, land and sea vehicles Battlefield later took. DICE knew they were unto something when they acquired the developers of Codename Eagle, Refraction Games, who at the time were working on the nascent Battlefield 1942.
I liked the original for the ability to use vehicles in a call of duty style shooter. Wish the sequel had cooperative campaign instead of just single missions which would’ve helped sales numbers a lot.
11:39 The Red Dawn movie remake coming out around this time probably didn't help considering it had the same plot as the game North Koreans invading the United States and you having to start a revolution to combat them.
I feel like a large part of the failure of the first homefront, at least on ps3, was the psn hack. That, coupled with the idiotic code that you couldnt authenticate your game with due to the network being down from the hack, meant you couldnt progress beyond something like level 5 in multiplayer, immediately gimping the playerbase on launch. And for months after.
I had a lot of fun playing the MP on the original Homefront. Felt like a good mix of BF and CoD. But what sucked for me was that PSN got hacked and that killed the game for me
Was the 200k afterwards a promise? , or was it written in the contract? Theres a big difference there. Idk how dumb they could be for eccepting a promise in negotiations
I remembered that I actually really want to buy this game, but I saw a review say that the campaign is so short so I just brush off that idea especially gaming is really expensive at my country haha.
The first one was my favorite. I don’t know how many times I played the campaign. The Revolution for me was difficult to get into because of the open world, loot and build gameplay.
personally as a kid i kinda enjoyed the game. i mean it obviously was no battlefield or anything like that but to me it felt like one of those niche indie games you would play every now and then to mix things up. when i saw homefront 2 however that was so bad i could smell it from the trailers.
I finished Revolution yesterday (I plan on playing the DLCs too). The Singleplayer has it's appeal. It gives me similar vibes as other 7th generation console singleplayers (which was exactly what I wanted from it). Gunplay is awful really, movement is janky but fun, Ai is funny, missions very repetitive, but environments are awesome and different, some puzzles are fun, and the gadgets you can use can be fun as well
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The last good Battlefield was Battlefield 2. BEFORE EA acquired them.
My biggest issue with the game was that when the campaign got good, it ended. It felt like half the game was missing.
Literally. Just as you liberated the bridge, they ended the campaign halfway through 😂
The same with the second game too
It was literally only half a game. They must have stopped development half way
Same here. It also really pissed me off with the amount of money I paid for the game and I didn't even get a full game.
@jondorr4011 exactly. This and stupid Call of Juarez game
I never knew Homefront was hated, I always enjoyed it much more than COD. I really liked the dark story
Same
Homefront was hated by the media, because it was launched in the height of the economic downfall trailing to 2008 and they want to push this narrative of America never fails, everything around that topic are not going to sell.
Many made a big deal about the unrealistic plot of Korea taking over the US. I didn't gaf, it's just a game.
Yeah it was surprising that people hated it
Bro if you cant a truly dark story with memorable characters, play COD World at War
That or the Black Ops series (minus 3)
2008: 1 million sold! it's a success!
2024: 15 million sold, didn't meet expectations, close the studio
Don’t forget to give the CEOa fat bonus in 2024 then it’s correct
We deserve the industry we got,
Here's a 3rd Video Game Crash
The thing is one million units sold is very good. It's just these companies like to overspend too much.
They had like 10 red dot sights, great guns, maps. Homefront was honestly a hidden gem and extremely underrated
I thought it was better than MW3....
I remember picking up homefront 1 from tesco when i was 11 and having so much fun. The Mp was ahead of its time
Is it common for Tesco to sell video games? I lived in Poland and Tesco didn't sell anything besides food and kitchen supplies
@@stuart4341 I didnt know Poland had Tesco so you just taught me something new but yeah we had a big tesco and there were like toy idles and a whole video game idle with xbox, ps and wii games and cds then we had a little clothing section its more common in bigger stores
@@stuart4341 if you'd know what they sold here in Hungary, they sold stuffs like Far Cry 3 Blood dragon
Yea, i didn't play the campaign, but i loved the multiplayer. I only got the game every few weekends when we rented it from blockbuster
Homefront: The Revolution is admirable as a product of small studio development. Their commitment to the craft is reflected in the effort to patch the game into playability and in the DLC. In my opinion, it is a very enjoyable gaming experience; it scratches a Far Cry itch.
I really liked it.
H:TR doesn't get nearly enough praise for what it attempted, and what it did well. Roaming those green zones, _seeing_ people live under occupation, and _seeing_ the district change as you incite anarchy -- most "you're a freedom fighter" type games (including the original Homefront!) tell, don't show, that stuff. You get at best a canned scene where they try and cram it all in before becoming a straight up military shooter.
Even one of my favourites, Freedom Fighters, only really _tells_ you things are bad. IOI did a good job showing change from level to level but in H:TR, seeing people actually jump soldiers in the street and start vandalising.. it felt like the game was at least trying to embody the theme.
It's an actual urban far cry, something that 6 lied to us about and only had the city missions at the end.
I liked it. It had certain parts that could’ve been better but it wasn’t bad. I enjoyed it.
I only played the first one, and while it was decent and fun to play (I suspended my disbelief about North Korea invading the U.S.; reminded me of Red Dawn), I never played it again. It had no staying power, no replay value... Leadership must be blamed again. Stop letting these corporate hounds fail upwards.
I just found the entire plot to Homefront idiotic. You're told the entire game that you're an incredibly valuable asset to the resistance as you can fly a helicopter, but when you get to the final mission, not only are there hundreds of helicopter pilots there, but you're then stuck on a gunners seat for the assault.
It was idiotic, and I'm tired of the usual gaming nostalgia ridden clowns all of a sudden flooding this game with videos over the last month "well ackshually"' 'ing this game. It failed because the entire premise was laughably stupid. Everything about the plot and the story was idiotic. People bought this game because it had a timesplitters 2 full version inside of it, no other reason.
@@cococock2418 Absolutely, that's the reason why I bought it. Especially as people discovered it has the entire cancelled HD remaster of the game in the code.
But is this the current flavour of the month game to be teary eyed about? Last month it was that bloody PS2 Winnie the Pooh Piglet game that I guarantee no one actually bought at the time.
@@cococock2418because no one cares about the story lol.
People remember homefront for the online
@@cococock2418 I had no idea what Timesplitters was when Homefront came out, and I barely know anything about it now. I didn't buy Homefront for Timesplitters 2, I bought it because I loved Frontlines Fuel of War and Homefront looked to continue that kind of game the studio had been known for at that point. And I don't personally think the story/premise was stupid, in fact except for the ending I thought the story was fairly well done for what it was. It wasn't some incredibly deep SP or anything, but NK invading the US was and still is pretty unique for the genre.
@@LordLOC * Greater Unified Korea, they got reunited in the game
Homefront did something i'm surprised wasn't jumped on by a lot of other companies. A Red Dawn style game. I liked both of them but they were clearly not in the best of shape. I still remember the mission where you dropped the white phospherus rockets on your own guys. Such a crazy moment to see in a game. I would like Homefront in some way to come back, obviously better made but I think it could be a great hit if in the right hands.
Played Homefront 2 earlier this year all bugs and glitches resolved. It was a good quality, solid game. Very Far Cry esque but in an urban setting. Really enjoyed it.
Home front 1 multiplayer was actually challenging, the sniping and kill streaks were super satisfying
Dude i 100% agree i got super nostalgic when he showed the dude picking up the M110 in the campaign the fun i had with that bad boy online
Right! It was fucking dope
Do a “Why SOCOM Failed.”
One of my favourite franchises.
One guy called "suk my turban" made a bunch of videos which while edgy and comedic laid out all the reasons why the SOCOM franchise was an empty shell of its former self by the final few games.
@@ChucksSEADnDEADloved SOCOM. Still have all of them from the original, all the way up to confrontation and 4.
I still check for new updates and rumors of a new game every month.
@@kensprivateinvestigation2128 I donated to the H Hour kickstarter to get a spiritual successor. It got delisted from Steam last year I think.
I’m so sad that series died…but it honestly wasn’t surprising.
I remember playing 3 and hearing someone mentioning they might jump on Confrontations. I asked them how the campaign was and their legitimate response was “ha! Thing dudes asking about the campaign! …it’s only multiplayer.”
Even back then I knew that was the death of the series.
I honestly don’t even remember if there was any games after that. I only really remember learning how to ‘mod’ it and give my dude the bright orange ‘camo’ that was originally used for the bomb bags.
I loved the first Homefront, the campaign was short but fun. But the multiplayer was extremely fun and had some unique features
All homefront did is make me go play Freedom Fighters again.
loved that game on PS2
Played that one on GameCube
Yeoooo I love that game
Thank you for reminding me of that absolute GEM from my childhood
One of the reasons I pre-ordered Homefront the Revolution was I suspected, unfortunately correctly, that it would be the closest we got to a Freedom Fighters 2 for a long time. I still despise whatever idiots decided not to make Freedom Fighters 2 when it was announced. I refuse to play the Kane and Lynch games because I read somewhere that Freedom Fighters 2 was abandoned to work on the first one.
Homefront is like metro in my eyes, its rare to see such lived in worlds that immerse you. The setting is also wierdly enough very under utilized
Homefront was the first multiplayer game I played after first getting xbox live. I really loved the games multiplayer and remember trying to get the achievement for having a full private match only for it to glitch out for everyone
I never finished the game but I really liked the trailer, "the final message of peace to the entire world" at the end was chilling.
Play home front revolution its really good after second location. The storyline is amazing. Listen to what not say it's too real for 2024‼️‼️‼️‼️
@Mike-xw4gm the last dlc ending when the EU finaly enterd the battlefield was such a teaser...😢
At that time, I was a console only player. I was well into my military career. I enjoyed the single player campaign tremendously. I had no idea that it wasn't well received. The very dark theme and setting really set it apart from the sanitized war time scenarios of other games.
So I worked as a QA tester for a contractor for Northern Front, Bad Company 2, and then Homefront, among other titles. I was there during the end of development for multiplayer. At the end, before launch, the general feeling we got from the internal team was optimistic. Although our external team was upset as our company and contractors were not credited. That was suposed to be part of the contract. This created a trend where I have never been credited on any game I worked on, even when I was working directly at EA... Welp, I dont make games anymore, so will no longer be a problem.
I play this when I was still in highschool it was a decent game that my big brother brought me thought bout going back
I remember it as dark FPS where you could literally see the horror of war, hell they show you a sequence where parents got pew pew in front of their toddlers kid, that kid cries still haunts me
The original was an unabashed Call of Duty clone; it wore the theme like a skin but outside of that, it played identical to the yearly COD release. H:TR actually did some interesting things. You could (and had to) play hit and run with occupying soldiers. You could set up traps for patrols. You'd see districts change as a result of your actions, see civilians previously being kicked around by troops now jumping them with bats in the street.
Honestly, H:TR is closer to what I wanted Homefront to be from the start, and it's worth re-assessing especially with the DLC. I'll take a game that aimed high and fell a little short, over a game that was bang average.
agree, i have the game and i was surprised how i had to use legit guerilla tactics and actually worth it way better than camping one house down with the LMG and shotgun lol
Unfortunately, when the game started to become good, it ended
The game also has a shitton of plotholes, like there's a certain cutscene where one IFV just destroys like 20 or so rebels when every 3rd person has an RPG, but in the beginning people demolish the whole eastern front of WW2 with a pistol and a couple of explosive barrels, it also happens in the later game, you in yourself can demolish whatever amount of stuff, can max out your stuff all you want, in a random cutscene you'll get Moe Lestered by the easiest enemy of the game.
And sometimes it refuses to tell you anything before getting into the mission, like there's one mission where you have to eliminate some kind of supervisor in a plantation, but they don't tell you how they look like, they just say "just scan everybody in, till then gg hf", and even when you scan people in the voiceline that indicates that you actually scanned the person the game wants, it only differs by like 1 word from the voiceline that tells you it's not your target, and if you just zone out for a second then you can go and shoot everyone because even after scanning the target, the game won't indicate who's actually the target.
The game unfortunately just sucks in the gameplay, i mean i really liked that the guerilla tactics actually worked better (as the game indicated) than the casual camping, but outside this part it sucks ass
The multiplayer was DAMN AMAZING!!
Also, the ability to change attachments on the weapons on the match was part of the original Homefront too. It was not added as a new thing on the sequel.
I got Homefront the revolution as soon as it was out at full price, Knowing it was not gonna be really good. But I wanted to show support to the game.
I would still love a third one , the first one had potential story wise (is the scenario realistic ?? , no but still ) having missions outside the US like in Asia or the middle east , we could still have that with a third one, i dont think it will happen but still we can dream ,the first one was unique with its style, and the second one did guerrilla warfare right with its mechanics
The situation is realistic, it's just implausible because of all of the requirements for such an event to take place.
Saying it's impossible is like saying it's impossible for the Roman Empire to fall. All it takes is one mistake and the dominos fall down hard.
The key things that allow this game to happen was the situation in the middle east getting even worse than it is in real life today... so much so that the gas jumped to $20 in-game by 2024. Somedays we're not too far from that if you really stop and think... and with Syria having a bit of a civil war if the wrong side wins we could very well see gas hitting almost that high... when it takes $400 a day to drive a SINGLE mail truck we'll learn right quick how valuable our vehicles were.
I'm not saying we're going to fall to N.Korea irl but if we hit that kind of rock bottom that's just blood in the water for Russia, China or soemone else to take advantage of. If you don't have the fuel to power your tanks... how are you going to use your tanks?
Gonna be honest, all those pop up edits made me not want to watch the rest and I'm only 1:31 in, you're doing too much
Homefront's multi-player in the first game was super fun, great memories playing that game.
the story of Trauma Studios was my wake up call that I just could not work in the games industry
the idea of achieving your dream just to be fucked over at literally every turn, used, and then discarded is just not something I could tolerate
I always thought Homefront was pretty good and very much undeserving of all the vitriol it got.
It was good it was just worse than the game before it and thq for some reason advertised the single player.
They spent a lot on marketing. Like they likely had a net loss from the marketing. And the reviews weren't bad for the multiplayer which is what anyone who followed the studio cared about.
They should have dumped the single player entirely and made a multiplayer only shooter similar to battlefield and released spending half the budget.
the campaign was probably the most off-putting single player experience i had had when i played it. many dull moments and story beats, with frequent roadblocks where you need to wait for an NPC to do something for you to proceed. Also, i felt the multiplayer to be incredibly unfriendly to a new player, and my memory of it is limited to me getting smoked by the same pwrson over and over again in every match
That was probably me. But basically anyone who played older battlefield titles or their front lines fuel of war game had a massive head start on people. The gunfeel was similar.
They definitely switched to korea as an enemy to not get banned in china. I never played the game, but i felt like the story was way too implausible and wondered why they didnt pick china. I know they probably tried to explain it but it just didn't make sense at a glance.
These game just show me how low my standards were as a kids because i loved Homfront the revolution
I love these kind of videos they make my night shifts go by quicker. Thank you for making this video and for the hard work that you put into it keep doing more 👍
I liked Homefront. Though instead of North Korea it should have been China to be more realistic.
Developers didn't wanna offend big daddy China apparently. Which actually further proves the original premise more realistic.
I remember playing the beta for the original homefront. My friends and i would get out of school and run home to play the multiplayer together. It had jank but it was better than most games we get now, it was a complete game
I remember the game launched with a bug that would make the disc unreadable. Had to exchange it 2-3 times before I got a good one.I liked and enjoyed the Sp. thought the baseball field part was a little eye opening. The MP was fine too. Thought it was more BF then COD.
I fontly remember the multiplayer of Homefront 2. It was just fun. You had limited skill points to make your character, you could build your character towards Full frontal assault guy, to gadgeteer, to stealth assassin or a mix of all and do missions entirely solo by catering to your speciality.
Sneak into the enemy base, go past the enemy sentries and plant remote activated bombs on all objectives before sneaking back out and detonating them all.
Take out all enemy sentries one by one with a sniper rifle from afar or sam fisher mode from close up.
Go in guns blazing into the base and blow everything up.
Drive remote controlled RC cars into the enemy base and blow up soldiers and objectives alike.
It had so many ways to finish missions that just blew my mind.
On top of that you got "Random" equipment items that further enhanced your character build, getting more armor, health, better stealth, climbing speed, weapond raw speed, steadyness, etc etc.
6:07 is when the sponsor ends!
Thank God TH-cam vanced automatically skips those
Honestly i loved the original HomeFront, for me the campaign was grewsome and interesting. The multiplayer was really fun and i definitely loved the points system, i enjoyed the customization in the game and the maps were rather nice to play on. i know multiplayer had a ropey start with servers not being able to handle all the players trying to play it and took a while to get into a game due to the ques, but it definitely distracted me from playing call of duty. i was gutted when multiplayer died and the servers shut down.
I was so excited for home front and then 4 hours into the play through the credits started to roll. I threw it in a bin and never thought of it again until I saw this video. I didn’t even know they made a sequel
Informative and well paced video. Liked.
Glad you liked it!
I played the original Homefront a good amount on XBOX 360. I remember the gameplay being pretty good with a short, but exciting, single player. The reason I didn't play it more was the lack of players. It was very hard finding lobbies with even 1/4 full.
A slight mistake in the Revolution story section. The US bought its equipment from North Korea in this timeline not vice versa. They didn't have to hack the software the back doors to shut it down were bult in from the beginning.
Edit I don't know if I were running a Resistance movement in an area with a lot of homeless people giving them what money, food, and medicines we could spare to help win their support sounds like a good idea to me.
Edit 2: I own both games. I got Homefront not long after getting my PS3 in November 2011, and Homefront the Revolution was the first newly released PS4 game I got once I got my first PS4 that month. That was the age where people got absurdly over sensitive to bugs IMO. As long as a game runs at least as well as the Fallout PS3 ports do its ok and the Revolution was nothing close to being that bad. I would take a game with some glitches I can play while the developers work to fix the issues now over a bug free version six months or a year later any day.
The sorry at the end credits makes you feel sorry for the
RoboKast making a video about a game is the equivalent of SunnyV2 making a video about a famous person
I actually really liked Homefront. Both of them. But I got both of them from the bargain bin. If I paid full price I may of felt differently
There was a time? I'm pretty certain that is still the case that the shooter genre is oversatured.
Love your videos! They’re really good quality, it’s a shame you don’t have more views and subscribers because you really deserve them!
Thank you so much!
Oh man the nostalgia is killing me. I played casual online matches with some of the Trauma guys while they were still making DCF. I was also a huge fan of the Forgotten Hope mod, and always wished a big studio would've picked them up. But then again, that may have been a bad thing for them eventually, like in this case with Homefront.
Anyone else remember that one time someone hacked the homefront online servers and maxed out everyone’s account?
Controls are a lil clunky but the story and gameplay are fantastic, never a dull moment when playing this with the bros
I replayed the campaign on this game several times. Would love a reboot of it.
Don't forget Medal of Honor 2010
Very underrated
I loved home front. I was horribly addicted to Full throttle energy and this game put full throttle energy machines on show in every level! XD
Dude you just unlocked a memory. I worked at GameStop when this launched, and I was trying to remember why we had cases of full throttle, it was for the release of this game, we were supposed to give these out for reserves and purchases of the game.
One good thing i will say about homefront the revolution, it does accurately depict guerrilla warfare/hit and run tactics pretty well and could have been a really good game
The OG homefront was a great game, so was frontlines. I still remember how much I liked the multiplayer customization of the weapons, good ole Diablo sights are the first thing that pop in my head when I see “hk” style battle sights
The multiplayer was interesting with the bounty system, my buddies and I would terrorize the map with the called in supports
I THOUGHT THIS GAME WAS A FEVER DREAM I LOVED THE MULTIPLAYER THANK YOU FOR THIS ROBO
“Those that were fed up with the conditions left the company”
What were they doing? Laying asphalt?
DC was probably the greatest total conversion mod ever made
I remember playing the beta and having a great time, but it ended up getting lost among the competition.
8:39. Their time schedule for 6 months is no different from wildland fire.. but we get 2-3 days rnr every 21xzz
I really liked Homefront. I remember it ended way too quick and was suprised other friends didnt like it.
My issue when I played it was how bad the gunplay felt. When you're a FPS going against Halo, CoD, Battlefield where all the weapons feel incredible, it felt awful playing HF where the weapons had no weight and felt off
I was, like, 11 when homefront released, and a certain mayan prophecy I had heard about around that time had me fearing all sorts of potential doomsday scenarios, of which "the united states being invaded" was one, so although the game was on my radar, it scared the hell out of me and I never played it
it's kinda sad to see development was as messy as it was, though; and if I wasn't terrified of it at the time, I probably would've liked it
THQ was my childhood developers. MX Unleashed comes to mind
3:56 that was intentional
When I will get burnt out in COD I would jump on home front multiplayer. I have good memories playing this game.
Great video!
I played the campaign for both Home Front games. I never knew either was unpopular
The sector by sector gameplay seemed neat, but needed some kind of expert on actual underground resistance movements to advise the programmers on gameplay tasks and structure. Maybe a similar game with better design and structure will come around. Mad Max and Shadow of Mordor would be good guidelines for that I think!
Man I loved the home front games, me and my friends had so much fun and where so excited to play it when it came out
The game early on felt really nice, as if it was setting up for some sort of branching storyline where you'd do missions from that safe haven in the backyard. Instead what we got was little more than garbage sent our way. I love the game, I still play it from time to time, but the entire game could have been better if they just did something different.
One small forgotten part of Homefront was it predicted Covid.
Military shooters that survived CODification all had their own selling points. The cover of Homefront was definitely one of the most eye catching ones I’ve ever seen, and probably the only thing that stood out among all the COD-likes.
I don’t think North Korea was the issue. Crysis worked with North Korea and heck COD Ghost even had Venezuela.
Crysis was detached enough from reality to get away with that. It also helps that by halfway they're out of focus as the primary antagonist role shifts to the Ceph
Home front was one of my favorite games. People still to this day host private servers with massive player count.
The most bizarre part about homefront, was it closley predicted when kim jung died 😲
I played a bit of the first one at a friend’s house. Then I picked up the second one for $5 at Gamestop one day. It’s not stellar, but it is a lot of fun. I play through it annually.
I've had a copy since it dropped - still haven't played it. I'll have to check it out finally
I happened to love Homefront. I do agree that the campaign seemed too short, but I did enjoy the gameplay. I also loved the What If story
They had a book that came out as a sort of back story for the game. I found it years after the game came out and did not play the game.
homefront the revolution was fantastic, and the nuke dlc was damn good
A bit of PC game history. The predecessor of Battlefield 1942, was a rather good game called “Codename Eagle”, also an alternative history game, which had the original formula of air, land and sea vehicles Battlefield later took. DICE knew they were unto something when they acquired the developers of Codename Eagle, Refraction Games, who at the time were working on the nascent Battlefield 1942.
I liked the original for the ability to use vehicles in a call of duty style shooter. Wish the sequel had cooperative campaign instead of just single missions which would’ve helped sales numbers a lot.
what a game, i miss the multiplayer on this, wish it lasted longer
I wanted this game to be good so badly, I would love a game where you fight a revolution.
I loved both homefronts. Wish the game was longer campaigns
11:39 The Red Dawn movie remake coming out around this time probably didn't help considering it had the same plot as the game North Koreans invading the United States and you having to start a revolution to combat them.
One of the best openings I've ever seen
The multi-player on 1 was so fun
I feel like a large part of the failure of the first homefront, at least on ps3, was the psn hack. That, coupled with the idiotic code that you couldnt authenticate your game with due to the network being down from the hack, meant you couldnt progress beyond something like level 5 in multiplayer, immediately gimping the playerbase on launch. And for months after.
I had a lot of fun playing the MP on the original Homefront. Felt like a good mix of BF and CoD. But what sucked for me was that PSN got hacked and that killed the game for me
The multiplayer was great, and I remember logging on one day and magically having everything too😂
I actually liked Homefront multi-player. It felt like the matches shifted as it went due to the credit system
I enjoyed both, my gosh for some reason I really enjoyed the gunplay of the multi-player, it was so crisp to me at the time
Was the 200k afterwards a promise? , or was it written in the contract? Theres a big difference there. Idk how dumb they could be for eccepting a promise in negotiations
Maybe the Home was the friends on the front we made along the way?
I remembered that I actually really want to buy this game, but I saw a review say that the campaign is so short so I just brush off that idea especially gaming is really expensive at my country haha.
The first one was my favorite. I don’t know how many times I played the campaign. The Revolution for me was difficult to get into because of the open world, loot and build gameplay.
personally as a kid i kinda enjoyed the game. i mean it obviously was no battlefield or anything like that but to me it felt like one of those niche indie games you would play every now and then to mix things up.
when i saw homefront 2 however that was so bad i could smell it from the trailers.
I finished Revolution yesterday (I plan on playing the DLCs too). The Singleplayer has it's appeal. It gives me similar vibes as other 7th generation console singleplayers (which was exactly what I wanted from it).
Gunplay is awful really, movement is janky but fun, Ai is funny, missions very repetitive, but environments are awesome and different, some puzzles are fun, and the gadgets you can use can be fun as well
well I live in Maine and I could never find ether one on disc anywhere I went wether it was best buy, target, gamestop, wal-mart none of them had it.