It's every time required to introduce these kind of repairs from outside to tesla. Nobody internally at TM is even considering such a customer centric approach. Great work eG.
I am a tesla Mechanic from Fremont/ CA factory. I'm impressed by your work 👏 well done 👏 it just you need to double check those clipping on pipes. It usually came loose if it doesn't hear double click.
I'm surprised they didn't fire you for posting this tbh. And the reason it only clicks once is because it was broken at the second part where it clips.
Something similar happened with my Ford Fusion Hybrid. I wasn't mentally prepared to spend ~$100 on four coolant lines. Instead, I spent $8 on some plumbing fittings at Home Depot, and now everything is up and running. I noticed that many people in the US believe that the only way to fix such issues is to buy a new part. However, often, you could fix it for cheap, and the final result will be more reliable than the original solution. Well done, sir.
@@daves2624 only if it can be proved that the repair work was responsible for any injury. In this case the repair work will clearly work under 'normal' conditions . It may fail with another smack but no sooner than the original did. The only issue i would have with that repair is the brass fitting. We don't know what the long term effects of that on the coolant will be plus if that fitting was plastic I would have used a plastic weld to reconnect everything making it more permanent and possibly stronger. But either way its 'probably' good.
Now I also do see you guys (electrified Garage) a selling a much heavier duty protective belly pans compared to stock ones to prevent this from happening. That’s very cool. 👍👍
I used to be in charge of ultrasonically welding brass inserts into plastic car powertrain parts like water outlets and as a hobby built a custom water cooled computer for myself. This repair is what I would do as well.
Brilliant! Nice work. I have heard about this type of damage leading to this repair which is why I installed the aluminum bash plate in place of the flimsy pan. Incidentally I also installed aluminum plating on the rear side of the wheel liners as additional protection of all the coolant lines. My Tesla is lowered and raked so…not much room for deer heads or chunks of ice to move around.
Where do the coolant lines run on the sides of the vehicle? For example, are they towards the inside of the jack lift location under the solid battery cover? Or are they towards the outside of the jack lift location under the plastic side rail panels?
For the LOW PRICE.. It would be worth to get a small tap handle for this sort of thing. You have much more control. If the pipe tap wouldn't fit in the tap handle. The square could be ground smaller so it does.
nice repair , everyone has the right to get his car fixed reasonably... one q though doesn't leakage occur at the junction of brass and plastic due to different expansion qualities?
Nicely done. But aren't you worried about the restrictions it will cause? Inner diameter is probably 50% smaller so in extreme conditions (hot/cold or heavy driving) coolant flow will be reduced significantly.
@@rschneid1996 yeah, I saw two little electric pumps, pumping coolant all the time in my 23'tesla mod3 rwd. I dont think it could cause the flow problem either. The only thing customer lost the warranty on that HV battery pack, if any thing related to over heat problem. But I doubt it would get over heat even on freeway driving with ambient air temp at 120*F. I am happy with that repair.
I just experienced the exact same thing. Awaiting final verdict from Tesla service center but told it's highly likely they'll need to replace the entire battery pack for the exact same reason as discussed in this story. How stupid!
@@steveowsley6475 Hello. It's been a long time since I posted that. The final verdict ended up being reasonable and not my worst nightmare of having the entire battery pack replaced. It was the front Aero shield that was damaged. Fortunately the battery pack was unscathed. The coolant hose came loose as a result and began leaking so I was scared it was directly coming from the pack. The techs did say they bent some parts back (clips?) to allow it to work and not have to replace the whole pack. They did a full leak test and it passed. However, they asked me to return one week later so they can conduct another leak test just to be safe. I did and it was fine. I didn't have to pay for that. In the end for parts and labor I paid just a total of $469.28! What a relief that was.
@@steveowsley6475 no other manufacturers have this big of design flaws, it seems intentional to me. Thats a lot of insurance money they get, and then they get to recycyle the batteries.
Great video! I’m a bit concerned about one part of the repair, though. You mentioned the coolant line won't take more than 1 bar (15 psi), but according to the coolant refill manual, it needs to be pressurized to 5.5 bars (80 psi). I’m not sure if the threaded plastic can handle that much pressure. What’s your take on this? I'd love to hear your thoughts!
An additional concern would be the restriction. It's a small restriction to be sure, but in a very highly engineered system it might be significant under some conditions. Such as max A/C on a hot day, or possibly max heating on a cold day, or extended high speed or acceleration, or any number of extreme scenarios.
I'm installing an instructor's brake for my driving school Tesla. Is it safe to drill in front of the passenger seat and underneath the driver's brake pedal?
I just got quoted $21K for my Model Y Performance that had a rock fly up and break the coolant line. I believe that it is the same failure. Going tomorrow with the insurance appraiser to see the issue. I would gladly pay $700 to have this fixed this way. I would already have my car back and it would be a better repair. I also plan on getting the aluminum skid plate for $300 to hopefully avoid this in the future.
I want information about an EV hybrid build. Example 2019 Ford fiesta SE, I want to add rear wheel EV power like hub motors. Or other options...? Do you have any information?
If this type of fault becomes common enough then it would warrant a custom made part that screws straight in after tapping the battery. It would not be difficult to make.
It's a very typical Tesla procedure. Even some other establishments in fact. Don't repair it, replace it. Who cares how much it costs? A lot of it has to do with the time it takes (faster to just swap out) and the competency level of the technicians.
Hi, I am in the uk and think I have the same problem. Could you please tell the size of the tap you use and and the size of the barrel nipple. Thanks Gareth
did you have any problems with reduced coolant flow due to the now smaller ID of the brass union? How did you estimate the acceptability of the smaller ID? thanks
why those things were never recessed push fit (pop in/pop out) in the first instance is beyond me Even then, you have to imagine that you'd want to make sure that the area around it was hardened also. Just seen you guys on The Verge brought up in a reporters article about the Ford eCrate engine. Surprised you've not released any vids in 9 months though!
I would love to see a video where someone puts a Long Range battery in a SR model 3 . I would like to swap out my SR battery for a Long Range if it wasnt too expensive ❤
I wonder if tesla knew it was an easy fix, but suggested the inefficient 16k cost instead. And if Tesla has a committee that can be shown this. How low cost effective solutions like this are happening. I wonder what they'll say when shown this, will they STILL say just change the battery anyway even after seeing this easy inexpensive solution? Alot of videos like this about tesla are being watched everyday, increasing consumer awareness about cost charges.
Hi, do you have any advice or guidance you could give to someone trying to start an independent EV repair shop like yours (not in your market area, not intended to compete for your customers)? or maybe resources you could point people to as they consider it? Thank you!!!
This is how smart people solve problems. Dump peoples just put in a brand new part at any cost. Right to repair is very important and companies like Apple and Tesla are working against that. Still love both Apple and Tesla.
I'm also having trouble sizing the thread and insert. It seems like M14x1.5 or 9/16-18 would be a good size but finding a matching brass insert has proven difficult. Did they go with some more standard here? Maybe 3/4" NPT?
Good job. I actually used to work for Tesla in the battery remanufacturing. What about fit and finish like panel gaps and misalignments? Do you guys work on those? Tesla quality sucks on those.
well tesla just want to grip off tesla customer. They want to sell a new HV battery pack, not even refurbished HV battery pack. An out side independent shop fix this problem easily. Nice job sir. 3h labor easy. Customer is very happy. I think after market shop may custom CNC an adapter repair part made from brass or stainless steal for this repair. It will be permanent repair. Even now it is a good repair.
150/hr labor rate, diag, drain refill coolant 5 gallons of G48, fill/bleed, diag to verify car is operating normally came to about $700
You forgot $3 for the brass union at Home Depot! Does Model Y suffer from this risk? Does the 3 plate you are selling fir the Y?
Brilliant!
Still cheaper than a new battery from Tesla, but $700 for that job seems extremely expensive.
Labor rate at Tesla is now $239 Hour
@@liveandletlive2894 lol this is ridiculously overpriced too
It's every time required to introduce these kind of repairs from outside to tesla. Nobody internally at TM is even considering such a customer centric approach. Great work eG.
Nothing unusual here. Lots of field short cuts on every car ever made.
I am a tesla Mechanic from Fremont/ CA factory. I'm impressed by your work 👏 well done 👏 it just you need to double check those clipping on pipes. It usually came loose if it doesn't hear double click.
I'm surprised they didn't fire you for posting this tbh. And the reason it only clicks once is because it was broken at the second part where it clips.
Now this is a professional at work! Anyone can just replace parts...
You guys have been all over the news here in Portugal!!! Congrats!!
OEM or aftermarket needs to design a steel shield for those Tee fittings to keep this from happening in the first place.
On their website already.
Tesla's? @@WatchRichRebuildsChannel
I fixed my model 3 LR battery that was broken like this using a 3/8 brass nipple and it works perfectly.
Something similar happened with my Ford Fusion Hybrid. I wasn't mentally prepared to spend ~$100 on four coolant lines. Instead, I spent $8 on some plumbing fittings at Home Depot, and now everything is up and running. I noticed that many people in the US believe that the only way to fix such issues is to buy a new part. However, often, you could fix it for cheap, and the final result will be more reliable than the original solution. Well done, sir.
Apples and oranges... from this point on, if the battery fails and causes damage to person and/or property the owner is totally liable.
@@daves2624 only if it can be proved that the repair work was responsible for any injury. In this case the repair work will clearly work under 'normal' conditions . It may fail with another smack but no sooner than the original did. The only issue i would have with that repair is the brass fitting. We don't know what the long term effects of that on the coolant will be plus if that fitting was plastic I would have used a plastic weld to reconnect everything making it more permanent and possibly stronger. But either way its 'probably' good.
Yep, the plumbing department at Home Depot can save you a bundle!
@@cwwiss1, thanks for such deep explanation!
Now I also do see you guys (electrified Garage) a selling a much heavier duty protective belly pans compared to stock ones to prevent this from happening. That’s very cool. 👍👍
Hell yeah man! Seeing opportunity, these guys!
Planned obsolescence, at its finest. Tesla pushing out cars with cheap shit then charging you up the ass when their shit fails.
Ev’s are a joke
Maybe an aftermarket belly-pan that's' a little beefier? And/or a shield for those coolant lines?
That’s already for sale on Electrified Garage’s website. Check it out.
Customers are beta testers for Tesla and when the beta test fails, they tell them to just fork out 16 grand for a new battery.
@@schmuhf YESS!!!!
Already for sale on their website
Chad is a real stud. Every garage needs someone like him.
thank you so much for teach people doing this,
a 15k repair is outrageous for that little break.
On the short connector with no hex. Fab up a short pipe tapped for the nipple side and use that to tighten it into the the battery.
so simple and still so impressive. great work EG team
I used to be in charge of ultrasonically welding brass inserts into plastic car powertrain parts like water outlets and as a hobby built a custom water cooled computer for myself. This repair is what I would do as well.
Hello. please tell me the size and thread pitch
Brilliant! Nice work. I have heard about this type of damage leading to this repair which is why I installed the aluminum bash plate in place of the flimsy pan. Incidentally I also installed aluminum plating on the rear side of the wheel liners as additional protection of all the coolant lines. My Tesla is lowered and raked so…not much room for deer heads or chunks of ice to move around.
Where do the coolant lines run on the sides of the vehicle? For example, are they towards the inside of the jack lift location under the solid battery cover? Or are they towards the outside of the jack lift location under the plastic side rail panels?
Brillant fix👍
Definitely should have some metal shielding from the factory for the plastic fittings. Or metal hydraulic fittings.
If you find a mechanic like this, take good care of him. Drop by with a cold 6-pack or a pizza from time to time.
For the LOW PRICE.. It would be worth to get a small tap handle for this sort of thing. You have much more control. If the pipe tap wouldn't fit in the tap handle. The square could be ground smaller so it does.
Well done, Chad! Keep these helpful videos coming!! :-)
I'd be looking at making either a metal belly plate or shielding for the coolant pipes as an extra.
nice repair , everyone has the right to get his car fixed reasonably... one q though doesn't leakage occur at the junction of brass and plastic due to different expansion qualities?
Hi could you advise if there is an easier way to change the rear brake line on a 2021 model 3?
Nicely done. But aren't you worried about the restrictions it will cause? Inner diameter is probably 50% smaller so in extreme conditions (hot/cold or heavy driving) coolant flow will be reduced significantly.
Worried maybe a bit but not $16,000 worth.
If that happens, there will be an error code generated for coolant temp out of range.
@@giggleherz 😂😂😂
If the pressure is only 1-2 psi then I doubt the flow rate is very high to begin with.
@@rschneid1996 yeah, I saw two little electric pumps, pumping coolant all the time in my 23'tesla mod3 rwd. I dont think it could cause the flow problem either. The only thing customer lost the warranty on that HV battery pack, if any thing related to over heat problem. But I doubt it would get over heat even on freeway driving with ambient air temp at 120*F. I am happy with that repair.
Well done, surprised the cover wasn’t replaced with an aluminum skid plate.
interested in getting my 2013 tesla model s high voltage battery repaired , any tips or where I can find a battery
I just experienced the exact same thing. Awaiting final verdict from Tesla service center but told it's highly likely they'll need to replace the entire battery pack for the exact same reason as discussed in this story. How stupid!
It’s not just Tesla, not a single car manufacturer will approve a repair like this. Even though it makes sense to us.
@@steveowsley6475 Hello. It's been a long time since I posted that. The final verdict ended up being reasonable and not my worst nightmare of having the entire battery pack replaced. It was the front Aero shield that was damaged. Fortunately the battery pack was unscathed. The coolant hose came loose as a result and began leaking so I was scared it was directly coming from the pack. The techs did say they bent some parts back (clips?) to allow it to work and not have to replace the whole pack. They did a full leak test and it passed. However, they asked me to return one week later so they can conduct another leak test just to be safe. I did and it was fine. I didn't have to pay for that.
In the end for parts and labor I paid just a total of $469.28! What a relief that was.
@@steveowsley6475 no other manufacturers have this big of design flaws, it seems intentional to me. Thats a lot of insurance money they get, and then they get to recycyle the batteries.
Great video! I’m a bit concerned about one part of the repair, though. You mentioned the coolant line won't take more than 1 bar (15 psi), but according to the coolant refill manual, it needs to be pressurized to 5.5 bars (80 psi). I’m not sure if the threaded plastic can handle that much pressure. What’s your take on this? I'd love to hear your thoughts!
An additional concern would be the restriction. It's a small restriction to be sure, but in a very highly engineered system it might be significant under some conditions. Such as max A/C on a hot day, or possibly max heating on a cold day, or extended high speed or acceleration, or any number of extreme scenarios.
Has anyone done one of these repairs where the coolant fitting cracked on the inside of the battery case?
I'm installing an instructor's brake for my driving school Tesla. Is it safe to drill in front of the passenger seat and underneath the driver's brake pedal?
I just got quoted $21K for my Model Y Performance that had a rock fly up and break the coolant line. I believe that it is the same failure. Going tomorrow with the insurance appraiser to see the issue. I would gladly pay $700 to have this fixed this way. I would already have my car back and it would be a better repair. I also plan on getting the aluminum skid plate for $300 to hopefully avoid this in the future.
I have a Model 3 about two hours south of you. Subscribed.
do you know if its possible replace the cool valve actuator with out a scan tool for relearn or program
Hi I did the same but my plastic broken inside now I need take off the battery and replace this part🙁🙁🙁😩😩😩
Do you have pictures of the problem? I am very curious.
What the sizes of nippel?
Why did the location in West Palm Beach closed? They were super busy and they had great referrals.
I want information about an EV hybrid build. Example 2019 Ford fiesta SE, I want to add rear wheel EV power like hub motors. Or other options...?
Do you have any information?
Thanks to thist video when it came out i manage to repair one myself thanks for sharing this. I never got to post to thank for sharing. THANK YOU !
That’s awesome to see great work Chad but didn’t you just posted the other day. Anyways very innovative good work
Still needs to be an active channel. Thanks 😊
Very good job. Thank you for your help to us. God bless.
Where are your shop located? 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
If this type of fault becomes common enough then it would warrant a custom made part that screws straight in after tapping the battery. It would not be difficult to make.
Educated and improvisational Tech👍 great job 😁
It's a very typical Tesla procedure. Even some other establishments in fact. Don't repair it, replace it. Who cares how much it costs? A lot of it has to do with the time it takes (faster to just swap out) and the competency level of the technicians.
how much for hv battery repair?
Hi, I am in the uk and think I have the same problem. Could you please tell the size of the tap you use and and the size of the barrel nipple.
Thanks Gareth
God bless good old fashioned American ingenuity.
Wasn't it American ingenuity that caused this problem.
did you have any problems with reduced coolant flow due to the now smaller ID of the brass union? How did you estimate the acceptability of the smaller ID? thanks
why not make a aftermarket metal skid plate in place of that plastic thing?
Fellas, we can’t wait for some updates on the Tesla Powered defender! Our 66’ Bronco would like to be your next 4WD EV conversion:)
So far so good, but if something hits the Cover again it will break again..🤐
Wouldn't it be better to reinforce the Cover with some struts?
Love your videos, are you guys going to make more?
🤓🚀 Thanks for helping
Boosted Boyz
Wow, very nice. I am interested in an electric vehicle, but not sure what to get. With your experience, what vehicle do you recommend?
How do you burp the system?
I ve got the same issue, that was really awsm idea, Thanks
Do you guys sell BMS boards?
It happened to me within 1 month of buying MY ,was charged $3500 for the repair.
Some engineer at tesla is panicking looking up if brass and thread sealant are compatible with stock coolant.
Hi. What's the cause of f107 w107 fault codes?
why those things were never recessed push fit (pop in/pop out) in the first instance is beyond me
Even then, you have to imagine that you'd want to make sure that the area around it was hardened also.
Just seen you guys on The Verge brought up in a reporters article about the Ford eCrate engine.
Surprised you've not released any vids in 9 months though!
Your training link isn't working.
What do you think about Kandi cars and would you recommend them?
I would love to see a video where someone puts a Long Range battery in a SR model 3 . I would like to swap out my SR battery for a Long Range if it wasnt too expensive ❤
I wonder if tesla knew it was an easy fix, but suggested the inefficient 16k cost instead. And if Tesla has a committee that can be shown this. How low cost effective solutions like this are happening.
I wonder what they'll say when shown this, will they STILL say just change the battery anyway even after seeing this easy inexpensive solution?
Alot of videos like this about tesla are being watched everyday, increasing consumer awareness about cost charges.
where are you located? i need motor, battery miantenance
Hi, does anyone do this job in the uk.
Is this a model 3?
What happens if it hits something again?
Hi, do you have any advice or guidance you could give to someone trying to start an independent EV repair shop like yours (not in your market area, not intended to compete for your customers)? or maybe resources you could point people to as they consider it? Thank you!!!
I’m interested in your classes my friend. I’m local.
Such a simple fix. What is Tesla's justifcation for requiring to replace thr ENTIRE battery pack just for this?
$$$$$$$$$$
Thank you!
Hello... Would you be able to recommend a Tesla mechanic in Atlanta GA?
what happens if the fitting breaks , wouldn't you be liable for what could happen to the customer? idk just seems like a risk to me
Hello I have a model 3 can you help with it I live in Miami
Need some performance for ford lightning 😊
is this garage done? no videos in 3 years
why no videos in a year on this channel?
Because they scam too many people to care
RIGHT TO REPAIR! RIGHT TO REPAIR!!!!
This is how smart people solve problems. Dump peoples just put in a brand new part at any cost. Right to repair is very important and companies like Apple and Tesla are working against that. Still love both Apple and Tesla.
Where are your shops located?
why not replace that plastic skid plate with a metal one?
What size pipe thread? 1/4" NPT ?
I'm also having trouble sizing the thread and insert. It seems like M14x1.5 or 9/16-18 would be a good size but finding a matching brass insert has proven difficult. Did they go with some more standard here? Maybe 3/4" NPT?
I made it work with M14x1.5 tap and a corresponding M14x1.5 brass fitting from Tameson
Where are you located
Great job guy!
the old mechanic rule my father (car mechabic in the 50s/60s taught me applied still: after tight comes loose 😂
You guys are doing God's work.
Good job. I actually used to work for Tesla in the battery remanufacturing. What about fit and finish like panel gaps and misalignments? Do you guys work on those? Tesla quality sucks on those.
Chad, is that a high voltage hookup on the front of the battery on a single motor or does that go elsewhere?
That is the HV wiring that runs through a tunnel on the bottom of the battery. It connects the front HV to the rear.
Brand new Tesla? How many warranties did this repair just void? So did you really save the guy any money in the long run?
Thats fixing a coolant system. Not the battery
Chad is totally amazing 😊👍🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹
Instead of using the old plastic piece you cut off is there a metal or grass piece to use instead?
well tesla just want to grip off tesla customer. They want to sell a new HV battery pack, not even refurbished HV battery pack. An out side independent shop fix this problem easily. Nice job sir. 3h labor easy. Customer is very happy.
I think after market shop may custom CNC an adapter repair part made from brass or stainless steal for this repair. It will be permanent repair. Even now it is a good repair.
The original looks like gardening grade parts ! Innovate fast, hack bad, Tesla. Proper skid pan might help ...
Well thank you but this is not a TESLA does not have a transfer or convergiance from 2 to 4 wheel drive or all to 4 wheel drive
You should probably get a metal belly pan.