This was the best profession overview for WotLK that I've seen. Despite playing the expansion a lot at a high end back then, I still learned a couple things. Nice job.
Notes about things that were not mentioned in the video: 2:25 The engineering head tinker grants 45 stam, aside from the mind control. This is the highest stamina enchantment in wotlk. 4:04 except nitro boots can fail to burst speed forward. Instead, they have a chance to launch you upwards incredibly fast and for a very high distance. If you have any form of slow fall, a survival CD or land in a pond, you're fine. If you don't, you'll likely die. Luckily, I haven't seen the launch activate inside dungeons or raids, but I've seen it do it in BGS and the open world. 4:21 you forgot to mention that there are two cloak tinkers with the same slow fall effect and CD. One grants spell power and the other one grants agility. Also for the tanks, there is an engineering hand tinker with extra armor. It's a really strong one. 6:06 Note about the wormhole and portable mailbox: these items do NOT bind after use so you can trade them and other grand master engineers can use them. Maybe you can send to your alts, lend to a friend or put in the guild bank. Idk if the CD remains after passing them. You can choose gnomish or goblin specialization. Choosing gnomish will allow you to create arrows that are currently the best ones for hunters and they sell for a lot of gold. (Hunters still use ammo in wotlk). Engineering also allows you to create googles with nice stats, as well as trinkets. These are nice if you're gearing up, especially at fresh 80. I know that in classic tbc they changed it so that the chicken trinket didn't work as it used to, but I guess it's worth trying it out in wotlk classic. The chicken trinket will increase the raid melee haste by 5%, which, if proven to still work will be very strong all the way to the ruby sanctum (the last raid). 9:30 jewelcrafting also allows you to create special rings, necklaces and trinkets which are nice for gearing up, especially at fresh 80. 10:54 another great item to have is the super useful and very often forgotten alchemist-only "Infinite Mana Potion" and "Infinite Healing Potion" which have the same effect as the Runic ones and they are in fact infinite. 12:21 just jump in the wotah to clear the debuff 17:04 oh not just one was added in wotlk, but two. The Magnificent Flying Carpet (purple and orange) is a pattern learned at the trainer. And a gnome NPC in Dalaran sells the pattern to create the Icy Flying Carpet (blue) in exchange for frozen orbs. Both fly at 280% speed. And now that we have mentioned mounts. I know these are from tbc, but don't forget that engineering has the Flying Machine and Fast Flying Machine. And tailoring has the Flying Carpet which is green and flies at 150% speed. 19:45 a small one but a good one and not added in wrath. The shield wards for paladin and war tanks are great. They will absorb a lot of damage until breaking. They can be used by blacksmiths and non-blacksmiths. 22:26 it's worth mentioning that the drums of the wild give a slightly weaker version of gift of the wild. There's also the drums of forgotten kings which will work like Pala kings except for 8% stats instead of 10. These, as you said, are great if you don't have a Pala or druid in your group. The drums from tbc are no longer useful at max level in wrath because they specifically say that they won't work on players above level 70. And talking about missing raid buffs, scribes will be able to create scrolls of fortitude, similar to the drums added in wotlk, one of these scrolls will buff all your raid members with a weaker version of Prayer of Fortitude (priest stamina buff). Sadly, there is no equivalent scroll or drum for the mages' intellect buff. 23:00 it's worth noting that the spell power bonus from LW is the same as enchanting, blacksmithing (when using two red 23 sp gems in your extra sockets), alchemy(+1 point) and inscription. JC and tailoring are superior as they give about the same sp bonus of 52. 23:24 _Sindragosa in Naxxramas_ you meant Sapphiron 😊👍 no worries tho 29:52 all pets are vanity pets in wotlk classic (I'm referring to these kinds of pets, of course, hunters have a different kind of pets). Pet battles weren't added until Pandaria. Also, about fishing, there is a rare pet (linked to an achievement) so idk if the pet was added in wotlk. The Crawldad. When you summon it and speak to it, it has a chance to grant a nice stamina buff. It might not be very convenient because of the rarity and buff RNG, but it could be useful sometimes. 33:27 cooking has another great recipe: Spicy Mammoth Treats. A very powerful buff for your pet, and can be used on a demonology warlock's Felguard, hunter's pet or unholy DK's ghoul. This treat will give your pet the well fed buff and increase their attack power and stamina. Note: to be fair, many people don't know them, so I hope that this list can be insightful and complementary to the video. Edit: I added more as the video progressed.
I have gone through your videos over the last few days and you are 110% the best wotlk youtuber for advice and guides. Make dungeon and raid guides aswell maybe?
Having played on Private Wotlk you are 100% engineering on every class/spec + whatever extra profession you want. Raiding or PvP engineering is just amazing.
Professions are so huge in wrath, especially engi! It’s great for pretty much everyone serious about raiding and it’s fun. Some great tips on how to make gold and good info here. Very based video!
@@deantimothy4386 As someone who played many wotlk pservers - mining is a great moneymaker since ores and bars are so valuable and you can make titansteel bars. Unless you're going to be your guild's enchanter or farming low level dungeons with a paladin to get greens I recommend ditching enchanting. If you're an engineer you can also "skin" leviathan, the first boss in ulduar, for a lot of gold. I don't know how it's going to be in classic but you can even do leviathan runs on your alts with a few friends due to the way levi works. You can also suck eternals from clouds in wintergrasp. Plus you get the repair bot and ability to use the AH in dalaran. Engineering is just so busted in wotlk. That said Wotlk is the alt expansion as well. You want alts to do the cooking daily for spices and probably the mining cooldown as well and tailoring cooldown.
I'm planning to play my beloved Holy Paladin in Wrath. I'm thinking of my professions being JC & Alchemist. I will also be running alts for every other profession to support the pally raiding.
Scribe and JC will be your big money makers. Folks can start farming low level mats now (herbs/ore) to put on the AH as folks will be looking to power level. I would like to know if scribe will be available prepatch. I can't remember if it was originally.
Copper ore for some reason on all the servers I have ever played on been worth alot and always more than silverleaf/peacebloom. For some reason other ores are always completely worthless, but for herbs/flowers the value almost always increases with level. Not sure if it's just the servers I have played on, but it feels soo strange to me that it is this way since the lowest level supplies are only useful for such a short time and very common.
In warmane i pick up herb and skinning, while a frost lotus these time cost 40G and mamoth hide cost 120G compare to a 20g titanium ore, then i use those gold to buy iceblade arrow, battled hilt, unblind ilvl 264, mechahog and invincible reign
The shadow priest discord doubts that... There's been several snapshotting changes over original wotlk, and in the last iteration it did not snapshot spell power (so it's updates every time it resets from mind flay), but it does snapshot crit rating so temporary buffs to crit can be really important. We don't know which version we'll get yet, but it's most likely the last one.
A nice guide should be of accumulation of materials to bring engineering or jewelcrafting to lvl max... I mean, how I can level up herbalism and mining in order to save materials for ultimate professions
Profession picking Guide Short Version: Are you a raider and a melee class / Hunter? Jewelcrafting + Engineering. Are you a raider + Caster dps? Engineering + Tailoring Potential exceptions to the above: Feral cat Jewelcrafting + Blacksmithing for extra sockets for arp / hit caps in 3.3. Are you a PvPer? Engineering + Tailoring / Jewelcrafting / Blacksmithing Anything other than whats stated above? Pick whatever it doesnt matter.
I'm gonna play three healers in Wrath, which means three engineers and maybe even as many jewelcrafters. And I'm certainly not suckering into the mega-inflated material prices we're seeing already. Oh boy. My miner character is gonna get a looooot of mileage.
Best advice pick a profession that's going to benefit your characters power or that you will find fun. Doing it for gold making reasons doesn't make sense since everyone knows the gold making methods and will make them pretty much unprofitable for most players
The details you put in this video got me to subscribe. I like it, love deep dives that goes into all options. One question, if I'm engineer and alch, with alch stone of 40% more from potions, and using runic injector as engineer with increased effect, do those 2 stack to give a LOT more mana back?
The alchemist stones say "does not stack", but I reckon that's only with other alchemist stones (to make the effect 'unique'). I'd guess that engineers and alchemists can't double up, like you're thinking, because one overwrites the other. No idea if engineers get up to 40% bonus, but it might be less... maybe 20%! Who knows?!
It does not. The alchemist's stone says it increases the effect of any potion you can make, which means alchemy potion, but after you convert your runic mana potions into mana injectors, that counts as an item created by another profession so it doesn't double dip.
@@Toyhouze thanks for the response! You and other classic channels always find the best tracks Is it possible that it is a longer version of that track? I cant find the part from 0:00-0:36 in the Mountains of Thunder track (Thanks for reminding me of Mountains track though, absolutely loved it back in the day)
Is it wrong to take enchanting and jewelerycrafting as a draenei pala tank? You said enchant ring buffs arent that good. But expect of stamina, there is spellpower too, which is good for palas. Would you agree, and which professions would you recommend for a draenei paladin?
Yeah I'd say you'd do well with enchanting and jewelcrafting! Honestly the bonuses aren't much different. If I had unlimited gold maybe I'd go either JC/BS or JC/Alchemy if I was a tank to max out my stats for PvE.
From memory, there was an infinite-use "flask" that added the equivalent of the mixology bonus and could be used in arenas. So if you had x stats from having a flask on, that alchemy special "flask" would give you x stats and is what you'd use whenever you're not actually flasking like in arenas.
@toyhouze , do you need a min char level for maxing scribe? or can i just buy all the herbs and skill it till end for darkmoon cards with a lvl 70 char?
Great video, thanks. And great additions from Sahid Carrasco. I have one question. Is there a profession worth stacking with alts? Ie alchemy for transmutes or JC? Gold earning wise.
You mentioned losing the gem slots if you drop BS but I assume it’s the same for the cloak enchant from tailoring? Otherwise getting one of those and dropping it for another prof would be op.
Question : As I'm leveling alchemy, do I need to chose one of the 3 specs like I did in tbc or at Wotlk you get all benefits? what do you recommend as its still tbc.
I’m playing a Feral tank and just not sure what professions to pick, I’m leaning to Mining/BS but JC sounds really good. What would you recommend for a bear tank?
I always liked herb/alchemy for feral tank. Alchemy gives you indestructible Alchemist's Stone which is 75+ stam, dodge 50+, and 40% more healing from your endless healing potion(which has one min CD on the potion). Mixology will boost you flat health flask by effect and time so you get even more health for longer. also you can make yourself Indestructible Potion which gives 3500 armor for 2 mins on a 1 min CD. Herbalism will gives you another nice heal with lifeblood.
Is it true that engineer mounts like the chopper can be used by everyone without being an engineer? So it would be different than the tailoring mounts.
Generally speaking. Engineering is only helpful to the player or other engineers unlike a lot of other proffesions. Most items they make are eather BoP or only useable by engineers. Repair bots are the one big exception. But even still. you still need a nengineer to drop it.
@@draconuuse9731 what can pair well with tailoring? and I assume mining go well with jewelcrafting? the thing is everybody and their mum is gonna be jewelcrafter
Important question: Does Runic mana injector bonus STACK with the alchemy trinket benifit? (Making a restoshaman with EnGi and Alc very lokely, but need to know do they stack.
I know this is late, but from what I remember, there isn't much issue with mana sustain as a healer in wrath, at least starting from Ulduar. We itemized for output rather than mana for the most part. This was part of the reason for the mana nerf that came in Cata. In Wrath you never really thought about your mana - at most you knew which fights you needed to chug mana pots on cooldown and which fights allowed for other potions instead. Maybe without mana tide in the group - but you are talking about rshaman so that hypothetical is irrelevant.
Sad that blackamithig is difficult to level and just alright. I just love blacksmithing. But not sure if I will level it. Right now I have mining and skinning while leveling
I have always played a frost mage as my main but this time I might go fire for a change though I'm not 100% sure just yet, what professions would you all recommend for a frost or fire mage in WOTLK?
Just started out playing on Classic, leveling my first character (Warlock) and thinking about what profession to pick to make some gold and buff my character. Is Tailoring/Engineering combo good for it? And also what about Jewelcrafting/Engi?
If it's your first character you might want to get a gathering profession to make gold. Definitely tailoring engineering is the best for making your character strong, but will require a lot of gold without mining
It's a close call, but I'd say JC Eng. You get the haste on activation instead of a random SP proc, and you get the frag belt for AOE pulls, and for PvP Eng is going to be amazing too with the rocket boots, cloak, and hand mounted pyro rocket. Let me know what you end up going!
I like your videos bro I disagree for enchanting bonus is the only way to get your rings enchant. Yes is less from other profession, but the rest of your gear you get fro enchanting or rep total is a same with other prof that is my opinion.
Which gathering proffesion is better to make some gold on the side as you level up, herbalism or skinning? I plan on leveling with two gathering professions one being mining, then ditch the second gathering prof for Engineer until i max it and finally ditching mining after im stacked with the necessary mats to level JC.
Herbalism is always more contested when it comes to farming them. But i think skinning is generally less valuable since everyone wants potions and elixirs and flasks vs the skinning brnefits.
If you're going mining I'd recommend Skinning. It's easy to keep up with as you level, and you can only track herbs or mining at a time, so switching between the tracking is really inconvenient.
Skinning and Mining are EXTREMELY profitable in early 3.0, but gradually fall off as the expansion progresses. Mining retains more value than Skinning though, since ores always have value because of prospecting, and will become more valuable again after epic gems, whle skins/hides are only really used for crating gear. Herbalism is probably less valuable than the two other at launch, but farming herbs is the by far most consistent moneymaker, since pots will always be in demand no matter which patch it is. Herbalism requires focues farming though, since most of the herbs will be considered useless. It's mainly the herbs used for crafting Haste pots and Wild Magic pots that will be expensive, while all the others will be really cheap. You won't make any money with herbalism by randomly picking the flowers you come across while leveling.
I always went engineering in Wrath. Not because I wanted to be top tier PvE and PvP with nice enchants and ability to banker/auctioneer. No I liked fireworks lol
This was the best profession overview for WotLK that I've seen. Despite playing the expansion a lot at a high end back then, I still learned a couple things. Nice job.
Thank you!
Notes about things that were not mentioned in the video:
2:25 The engineering head tinker grants 45 stam, aside from the mind control. This is the highest stamina enchantment in wotlk.
4:04 except nitro boots can fail to burst speed forward. Instead, they have a chance to launch you upwards incredibly fast and for a very high distance. If you have any form of slow fall, a survival CD or land in a pond, you're fine. If you don't, you'll likely die.
Luckily, I haven't seen the launch activate inside dungeons or raids, but I've seen it do it in BGS and the open world.
4:21 you forgot to mention that there are two cloak tinkers with the same slow fall effect and CD. One grants spell power and the other one grants agility.
Also for the tanks, there is an engineering hand tinker with extra armor. It's a really strong one.
6:06 Note about the wormhole and portable mailbox: these items do NOT bind after use so you can trade them and other grand master engineers can use them. Maybe you can send to your alts, lend to a friend or put in the guild bank. Idk if the CD remains after passing them.
You can choose gnomish or goblin specialization. Choosing gnomish will allow you to create arrows that are currently the best ones for hunters and they sell for a lot of gold. (Hunters still use ammo in wotlk).
Engineering also allows you to create googles with nice stats, as well as trinkets. These are nice if you're gearing up, especially at fresh 80.
I know that in classic tbc they changed it so that the chicken trinket didn't work as it used to, but I guess it's worth trying it out in wotlk classic. The chicken trinket will increase the raid melee haste by 5%, which, if proven to still work will be very strong all the way to the ruby sanctum (the last raid).
9:30 jewelcrafting also allows you to create special rings, necklaces and trinkets which are nice for gearing up, especially at fresh 80.
10:54 another great item to have is the super useful and very often forgotten alchemist-only "Infinite Mana Potion" and "Infinite Healing Potion" which have the same effect as the Runic ones and they are in fact infinite.
12:21 just jump in the wotah to clear the debuff
17:04 oh not just one was added in wotlk, but two. The Magnificent Flying Carpet (purple and orange) is a pattern learned at the trainer. And a gnome NPC in Dalaran sells the pattern to create the Icy Flying Carpet (blue) in exchange for frozen orbs. Both fly at 280% speed.
And now that we have mentioned mounts. I know these are from tbc, but don't forget that engineering has the Flying Machine and Fast Flying Machine. And tailoring has the Flying Carpet which is green and flies at 150% speed.
19:45 a small one but a good one and not added in wrath. The shield wards for paladin and war tanks are great. They will absorb a lot of damage until breaking. They can be used by blacksmiths and non-blacksmiths.
22:26 it's worth mentioning that the drums of the wild give a slightly weaker version of gift of the wild. There's also the drums of forgotten kings which will work like Pala kings except for 8% stats instead of 10. These, as you said, are great if you don't have a Pala or druid in your group. The drums from tbc are no longer useful at max level in wrath because they specifically say that they won't work on players above level 70.
And talking about missing raid buffs, scribes will be able to create scrolls of fortitude, similar to the drums added in wotlk, one of these scrolls will buff all your raid members with a weaker version of Prayer of Fortitude (priest stamina buff). Sadly, there is no equivalent scroll or drum for the mages' intellect buff.
23:00 it's worth noting that the spell power bonus from LW is the same as enchanting, blacksmithing (when using two red 23 sp gems in your extra sockets), alchemy(+1 point) and inscription. JC and tailoring are superior as they give about the same sp bonus of 52.
23:24 _Sindragosa in Naxxramas_ you meant Sapphiron 😊👍 no worries tho
29:52 all pets are vanity pets in wotlk classic (I'm referring to these kinds of pets, of course, hunters have a different kind of pets). Pet battles weren't added until Pandaria.
Also, about fishing, there is a rare pet (linked to an achievement) so idk if the pet was added in wotlk. The Crawldad. When you summon it and speak to it, it has a chance to grant a nice stamina buff. It might not be very convenient because of the rarity and buff RNG, but it could be useful sometimes.
33:27 cooking has another great recipe: Spicy Mammoth Treats. A very powerful buff for your pet, and can be used on a demonology warlock's Felguard, hunter's pet or unholy DK's ghoul. This treat will give your pet the well fed buff and increase their attack power and stamina.
Note: to be fair, many people don't know them, so I hope that this list can be insightful and complementary to the video.
Edit: I added more as the video progressed.
Excellent write up filling in gaps. Thank you.
I've seen, and had nitro boots fail on me in ICC before.
Do you have a GDoc formating everything ? ^^
Presentation 5/5
Research 5/5
Thank you so much man. This one really really helped.
picking up profession is not the hardest part, but leveling them up from scratch is :D
💯
As near everyone wants enginering its a good time to be a gnome. Cheap leveling
1:18 engineering
6:26 jewel crafting
9:25 alchemy
12:08 skinning
13:52 tailoring
17:22 blacksmithing
18:48 inscription
22:02 leatherworking
24:20 herbalism
25:24 enchanting
26:50 mining
28:42 fishing
32:32 cooking
34:00 first aid
For those who didn’t read the description first.
I have gone through your videos over the last few days and you are 110% the best wotlk youtuber for advice and guides. Make dungeon and raid guides aswell maybe?
This video is the best about WotLK professions bonus. Congratulations for your amazing TH-cam channel
Thank you! I really appreciate that!
this is the greatest profession guide ive seen tyvm
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks!
Having played on Private Wotlk you are 100% engineering on every class/spec + whatever extra profession you want. Raiding or PvP engineering is just amazing.
Wow was the only full-time job that I enjoyed.
Just started for wow for the first time. Thank for the video man
Have fun!
"...but in Patch 3.3.3, repeating" - Leeroy Jenkins quotes are ALWAYS appreciated! Kudos
28:23 haha props for the reference and to anyone who caught it ;p
Great video! I think I go mining and enchanter with my new tank.
27:35
"maxing out at 60 mana" :D
LOL that is hilarious. 60 mana rofl. Thanks man xD
I giggled haha ^^
Professions are so huge in wrath, especially engi! It’s great for pretty much everyone serious about raiding and it’s fun. Some great tips on how to make gold and good info here. Very based video!
100% agree! Thanks!
So mad I dropped engineering on my paladin for enchanting 😂 should’ve dropped mining
@@deantimothy4386 As someone who played many wotlk pservers - mining is a great moneymaker since ores and bars are so valuable and you can make titansteel bars. Unless you're going to be your guild's enchanter or farming low level dungeons with a paladin to get greens I recommend ditching enchanting. If you're an engineer you can also "skin" leviathan, the first boss in ulduar, for a lot of gold. I don't know how it's going to be in classic but you can even do leviathan runs on your alts with a few friends due to the way levi works. You can also suck eternals from clouds in wintergrasp. Plus you get the repair bot and ability to use the AH in dalaran. Engineering is just so busted in wotlk.
That said Wotlk is the alt expansion as well. You want alts to do the cooking daily for spices and probably the mining cooldown as well and tailoring cooldown.
This is the best wotlk video I had ever seen... perfect
Glad you enjoyed it :)
Ty for this guide man
Np! Glad you enjoyed it!
oooh engineering it is! Thanks for the vid Toyhouze!
Three times during tailoring you said you need imbued netherweave instead of frostweave and I laughed everytime
I'm planning to play my beloved Holy Paladin in Wrath. I'm thinking of my professions being JC & Alchemist. I will also be running alts for every other profession to support the pally raiding.
Scribe and JC will be your big money makers. Folks can start farming low level mats now (herbs/ore) to put on the AH as folks will be looking to power level. I would like to know if scribe will be available prepatch. I can't remember if it was originally.
Genius
I don't think it will be available, but not sure
most likely will be available in prepatch, as JC was also available in tbc prepatch.
Definitely stocking up on herbs and ores for the power leveling rush at launch
Good idea! Which do you think will be more valuable?
Copper ore for some reason on all the servers I have ever played on been worth alot and always more than silverleaf/peacebloom. For some reason other ores are always completely worthless, but for herbs/flowers the value almost always increases with level. Not sure if it's just the servers I have played on, but it feels soo strange to me that it is this way since the lowest level supplies are only useful for such a short time and very common.
In warmane i pick up herb and skinning, while a frost lotus these time cost 40G and mamoth hide cost 120G compare to a 20g titanium ore, then i use those gold to buy iceblade arrow, battled hilt, unblind ilvl 264, mechahog and invincible reign
28:23 yay I got the reference
im getting soooo HYPED!
thanks, very professional professions review :)
Thank you! Glad you liked it
The light weave embroidery is best for shadow priest imo...since your swp once casted will keep the bonus as it is refreshed
Good tip!
The shadow priest discord doubts that... There's been several snapshotting changes over original wotlk, and in the last iteration it did not snapshot spell power (so it's updates every time it resets from mind flay), but it does snapshot crit rating so temporary buffs to crit can be really important. We don't know which version we'll get yet, but it's most likely the last one.
A nice guide should be of accumulation of materials to bring engineering or jewelcrafting to lvl max...
I mean, how I can level up herbalism and mining in order to save materials for ultimate professions
You can buy ore now and smelt a new character to 290 mining just through smelting ore you bought as preparation
Now that's what I call a guide
Profession picking Guide Short Version:
Are you a raider and a melee class / Hunter? Jewelcrafting + Engineering.
Are you a raider + Caster dps? Engineering + Tailoring
Potential exceptions to the above:
Feral cat Jewelcrafting + Blacksmithing for extra sockets for arp / hit caps in 3.3.
Are you a PvPer? Engineering + Tailoring / Jewelcrafting / Blacksmithing
Anything other than whats stated above? Pick whatever it doesnt matter.
Most excellent video
thank you :)
The subtle humor in this video🤣
awesome dude!
Thanks!
I got my Mechano-hog from a box I fished up doing the Dalaran fishing daily!
WOW!
Big Madseasonshow vibes, nice video
can you do video like this for Cataclysm classic? you are doing best of this type videos.
As i recall, BS/JC was the best profession to stack up the stat of your wish due to the prismatic socket from BS and super gem from JC.
so well done! tysm!
best guide video ever!
Thanks so much!
I think I missed where you suggested professions for each class. I'm looking to make a fire mage. Any suggestions?
whats the name of soundtrack that starts at the very beginning and plays through entire introduction?
Very nice guide, thanks a lot :)
Thank you :)
Btw, Divine Plea is not affected by haste :)
I'm gonna play three healers in Wrath, which means three engineers and maybe even as many jewelcrafters. And I'm certainly not suckering into the mega-inflated material prices we're seeing already. Oh boy. My miner character is gonna get a looooot of mileage.
Will mining or herbalism make more money?
what about the skinning/mining hammer or blacksmithing/mining hammer? was'nt that also in wotlk, from bs or engi?
Best advice pick a profession that's going to benefit your characters power or that you will find fun. Doing it for gold making reasons doesn't make sense since everyone knows the gold making methods and will make them pretty much unprofitable for most players
do the mana injectors share the cooldown with the potions?
What do you think would be good for a rouge?
I went engineering/mining as my prof for my first/main (gnome warlock) hopefully it was a good choice….
The details you put in this video got me to subscribe. I like it, love deep dives that goes into all options.
One question, if I'm engineer and alch, with alch stone of 40% more from potions, and using runic injector as engineer with increased effect, do those 2 stack to give a LOT more mana back?
Glad you enjoyed it! Based on how it worked back in the day - the two do not stack.
The alchemist stones say "does not stack", but I reckon that's only with other alchemist stones (to make the effect 'unique').
I'd guess that engineers and alchemists can't double up, like you're thinking, because one overwrites the other. No idea if engineers get up to 40% bonus, but it might be less... maybe 20%! Who knows?!
It does not. The alchemist's stone says it increases the effect of any potion you can make, which means alchemy potion, but after you convert your runic mana potions into mana injectors, that counts as an item created by another profession so it doesn't double dip.
I miss using engineering stuff in Arena
music was great on this video
What was that into song? That was beautiful
Mountains of Thunder - Wrath of the Lich King Soundtrack. I agree, it's absolutely beautiful.
@@Toyhouze thanks for the response! You and other classic channels always find the best tracks
Is it possible that it is a longer version of that track? I cant find the part from 0:00-0:36 in the Mountains of Thunder track (Thanks for reminding me of Mountains track though, absolutely loved it back in the day)
Wait..i can remember nitro boots breaking sometimes. It blasts you high up in the air.
Great guide! And may i say, How dare thy not mention that, with cooking, you can literally make cupcakes! :D
Haha thank you
You missed Transmute Titanium, which transmutes saronite into Titanium
What phase do you think the bop epic gems will come out?
What’s the music that’s playing in the engineering part?
Tinkertown - World of warcraft soundtrack
Is it wrong to take enchanting and jewelerycrafting as a draenei pala tank? You said enchant ring buffs arent that good. But expect of stamina, there is spellpower too, which is good for palas. Would you agree, and which professions would you recommend for a draenei paladin?
Yeah I'd say you'd do well with enchanting and jewelcrafting! Honestly the bonuses aren't much different. If I had unlimited gold maybe I'd go either JC/BS or JC/Alchemy if I was a tank to max out my stats for PvE.
BRO WHATS THE SONG ON THE ALCHEMY INTRO?
Can you please explain the benefits of Alchemy in arena? Can you use pots or flasks? Im confused, in google I found mixed answers. Thank you!
From memory, there was an infinite-use "flask" that added the equivalent of the mixology bonus and could be used in arenas. So if you had x stats from having a flask on, that alchemy special "flask" would give you x stats and is what you'd use whenever you're not actually flasking like in arenas.
@toyhouze , do you need a min char level for maxing scribe? or can i just buy all the herbs and skill it till end for darkmoon cards with a lvl 70 char?
Great video, thanks. And great additions from Sahid Carrasco. I have one question. Is there a profession worth stacking with alts? Ie alchemy for transmutes or JC? Gold earning wise.
Yeah I'd say Alchemy/JC is powerful for the saronite shuffle. Lots and lots of gold to be made with that combination.
You mentioned losing the gem slots if you drop BS but I assume it’s the same for the cloak enchant from tailoring? Otherwise getting one of those and dropping it for another prof would be op.
Yep it's the same for tailoring and all profession-specific bonuses - they are lost if you drop the profession
Question : As I'm leveling alchemy, do I need to chose one of the 3 specs like I did in tbc or at Wotlk you get all benefits? what do you recommend as its still tbc.
Gonna try to go Engineering/Tailoring with no farming toons. Gonna be tough.😬
Good luck man! You'll be a beast once it's maxed out!
I’m playing a Feral tank and just not sure what professions to pick, I’m leaning to Mining/BS but JC sounds really good. What would you recommend for a bear tank?
I always liked herb/alchemy for feral tank. Alchemy gives you indestructible Alchemist's Stone which is 75+ stam, dodge 50+, and 40% more healing from your endless healing potion(which has one min CD on the potion). Mixology will boost you flat health flask by effect and time so you get even more health for longer. also you can make yourself Indestructible Potion which gives 3500 armor for 2 mins on a 1 min CD.
Herbalism will gives you another nice heal with lifeblood.
great video. im a orc hunter with leather working and skinning. do i have to go JC/ENG if i want to do well in raids? Thanks!
Thanks! You don't have to, it's really just min maxing
It should be noted that the plural of vellum is vella, not 'vellums'.
Is it true that engineer mounts like the chopper can be used by everyone without being an engineer? So it would be different than the tailoring mounts.
If I remember correctly the answer is Yes. BUT only the engineer can buy the parts that can make it (in K3)
can hyperspeed accelerator (haste) be only used by engineers or everyone?
Just Engineers!
Generally speaking. Engineering is only helpful to the player or other engineers unlike a lot of other proffesions. Most items they make are eather BoP or only useable by engineers. Repair bots are the one big exception. But even still. you still need a nengineer to drop it.
@@draconuuse9731 what can pair well with tailoring? and I assume mining go well with jewelcrafting? the thing is everybody and their mum is gonna be jewelcrafter
@@GamingDualities Tailoring/ Enchanting is a classic!
@@Qstorm88 yea but i made a mistake and only lvled tailoring so now idk should i lvl up enchanting from scratch or not lol
You say engi is best overall, but is it bis for arena? If all the tinkers are banned except the glove rockets, that doesn't seem too great
engi haste works for casters ? mages for example
Yep!
Can u do the Self Heal from Herbalism in shadowform?
Yes that should work because shadow form prevents only holy spells from being cast
Important question: Does Runic mana injector bonus STACK with the alchemy trinket benifit? (Making a restoshaman with EnGi and Alc very lokely, but need to know do they stack.
They do not stack unfortunately :( great question though
@@Toyhouze Thanks for the quick reply! =)
I know this is late, but from what I remember, there isn't much issue with mana sustain as a healer in wrath, at least starting from Ulduar. We itemized for output rather than mana for the most part.
This was part of the reason for the mana nerf that came in Cata. In Wrath you never really thought about your mana - at most you knew which fights you needed to chug mana pots on cooldown and which fights allowed for other potions instead. Maybe without mana tide in the group - but you are talking about rshaman so that hypothetical is irrelevant.
there were so many ppl on my server, ah prices just went right to vendor cost
Does Hyperspeed Acceleration BoP or BoE ?? Just like Ring Enchant only applied for enchanter, or it's tradeable ?
BoP just like ring enchant.
@@Toyhouze thanks bb
Casters and warriors ! Prepare to be tailors and engineers!
boots from egi break but its very rare and if thy do you get soem safe parachute
Sad that blackamithig is difficult to level and just alright. I just love blacksmithing. But not sure if I will level it. Right now I have mining and skinning while leveling
are we going to be able to transfer toons from tbc classic to wolk classic?
Yes
Seems like bs and jc would work well together ?
Bs and engi can be a good choice for a warrior? I prefer pvp. Thanks
Yeah great choices!
I have always played a frost mage as my main but this time I might go fire for a change though I'm not 100% sure just yet, what professions would you all recommend for a frost or fire mage in WOTLK?
Engineering / tailoring imo
I have a question: can you get BS for the 2 gem slots, and then drop it for another profession but still use the extra gem slots?
Nope you won't be able to use the extra slots if you drop BS
So if I want to focus Arena as a Warlock (Likely Destro) with potential raiding (Maybe Demo) I want Engi + Something correct?
Seems like nobody knows if the engi devices can be used in arena or not
what professions for DK Tank? i thought about jewel and engineering
an 10/10 vid
I ll go engi tailoring, cloak bonus seems very solid for me, 5 chars with tailoring, ez to lvl up, ez 4 days money with no effort.
No dailies and after 1 month every jwl will have all recipies, jwl will be dead in terms on gold making
Prospecting? Il will be worthy as it is in tbc, that means zero
So JC wont be worth getting in Wotlk? :/ I'm lock. Not sure what to pick.
Not looking forward to the cost and time to get Engineering up on my druid. But it's going to be so worth it for pvp and raids 😩
What's so good about engi in pvp? Just the rocket boots?
Just started out playing on Classic, leveling my first character (Warlock) and thinking about what profession to pick to make some gold and buff my character. Is Tailoring/Engineering combo good for it?
And also what about Jewelcrafting/Engi?
If it's your first character you might want to get a gathering profession to make gold. Definitely tailoring engineering is the best for making your character strong, but will require a lot of gold without mining
You can use the tinkers in arena? That’s pretty broken.
Not sure about all of them, but I know for sure the hand mounted pyro rocket worked.
Everyone go engi and JC, who needs potions/elixirs/glyphs/enchants/BS LW Tailoring gear etc..
Shhh, your adding competition
Mage = Tailoring, JC or JC Eng?
It's a close call, but I'd say JC Eng. You get the haste on activation instead of a random SP proc, and you get the frag belt for AOE pulls, and for PvP Eng is going to be amazing too with the rocket boots, cloak, and hand mounted pyro rocket. Let me know what you end up going!
I was planning on LW/ENGI for my rogue but LW seems kinda underwhelming. Should I just go mining to supply engi?
Yeah I'd probably do that. LW is definitely pretty weak in Wrath. It's decent for tanks though.
@@Toyhouze thank you!
I like your videos bro I disagree for enchanting bonus is the only way to get your rings enchant. Yes is less from other profession, but the rest of your gear you get fro enchanting or rep total is a same with other prof that is my opinion.
Which gathering proffesion is better to make some gold on the side as you level up, herbalism or skinning? I plan on leveling with two gathering professions one being mining, then ditch the second gathering prof for Engineer until i max it and finally ditching mining after im stacked with the necessary mats to level JC.
Herbalism is always more contested when it comes to farming them. But i think skinning is generally less valuable since everyone wants potions and elixirs and flasks vs the skinning brnefits.
If you're going mining I'd recommend Skinning. It's easy to keep up with as you level, and you can only track herbs or mining at a time, so switching between the tracking is really inconvenient.
Skinning and Mining are EXTREMELY profitable in early 3.0, but gradually fall off as the expansion progresses. Mining retains more value than Skinning though, since ores always have value because of prospecting, and will become more valuable again after epic gems, whle skins/hides are only really used for crating gear.
Herbalism is probably less valuable than the two other at launch, but farming herbs is the by far most consistent moneymaker, since pots will always be in demand no matter which patch it is. Herbalism requires focues farming though, since most of the herbs will be considered useless. It's mainly the herbs used for crafting Haste pots and Wild Magic pots that will be expensive, while all the others will be really cheap. You won't make any money with herbalism by randomly picking the flowers you come across while leveling.
I think I'm gonna go mining + jewelcrafting as a feral druid
Great choice
I always went engineering in Wrath. Not because I wanted to be top tier PvE and PvP with nice enchants and ability to banker/auctioneer.
No I liked fireworks lol