Notes about things that were not mentioned in the video: 2:25 The engineering head tinker grants 45 stam, aside from the mind control. This is the highest stamina enchantment in wotlk. 4:04 except nitro boots can fail to burst speed forward. Instead, they have a chance to launch you upwards incredibly fast and for a very high distance. If you have any form of slow fall, a survival CD or land in a pond, you're fine. If you don't, you'll likely die. Luckily, I haven't seen the launch activate inside dungeons or raids, but I've seen it do it in BGS and the open world. 4:21 you forgot to mention that there are two cloak tinkers with the same slow fall effect and CD. One grants spell power and the other one grants agility. Also for the tanks, there is an engineering hand tinker with extra armor. It's a really strong one. 6:06 Note about the wormhole and portable mailbox: these items do NOT bind after use so you can trade them and other grand master engineers can use them. Maybe you can send to your alts, lend to a friend or put in the guild bank. Idk if the CD remains after passing them. You can choose gnomish or goblin specialization. Choosing gnomish will allow you to create arrows that are currently the best ones for hunters and they sell for a lot of gold. (Hunters still use ammo in wotlk). Engineering also allows you to create googles with nice stats, as well as trinkets. These are nice if you're gearing up, especially at fresh 80. I know that in classic tbc they changed it so that the chicken trinket didn't work as it used to, but I guess it's worth trying it out in wotlk classic. The chicken trinket will increase the raid melee haste by 5%, which, if proven to still work will be very strong all the way to the ruby sanctum (the last raid). 9:30 jewelcrafting also allows you to create special rings, necklaces and trinkets which are nice for gearing up, especially at fresh 80. 10:54 another great item to have is the super useful and very often forgotten alchemist-only "Infinite Mana Potion" and "Infinite Healing Potion" which have the same effect as the Runic ones and they are in fact infinite. 12:21 just jump in the wotah to clear the debuff 17:04 oh not just one was added in wotlk, but two. The Magnificent Flying Carpet (purple and orange) is a pattern learned at the trainer. And a gnome NPC in Dalaran sells the pattern to create the Icy Flying Carpet (blue) in exchange for frozen orbs. Both fly at 280% speed. And now that we have mentioned mounts. I know these are from tbc, but don't forget that engineering has the Flying Machine and Fast Flying Machine. And tailoring has the Flying Carpet which is green and flies at 150% speed. 19:45 a small one but a good one and not added in wrath. The shield wards for paladin and war tanks are great. They will absorb a lot of damage until breaking. They can be used by blacksmiths and non-blacksmiths. 22:26 it's worth mentioning that the drums of the wild give a slightly weaker version of gift of the wild. There's also the drums of forgotten kings which will work like Pala kings except for 8% stats instead of 10. These, as you said, are great if you don't have a Pala or druid in your group. The drums from tbc are no longer useful at max level in wrath because they specifically say that they won't work on players above level 70. And talking about missing raid buffs, scribes will be able to create scrolls of fortitude, similar to the drums added in wotlk, one of these scrolls will buff all your raid members with a weaker version of Prayer of Fortitude (priest stamina buff). Sadly, there is no equivalent scroll or drum for the mages' intellect buff. 23:00 it's worth noting that the spell power bonus from LW is the same as enchanting, blacksmithing (when using two red 23 sp gems in your extra sockets), alchemy(+1 point) and inscription. JC and tailoring are superior as they give about the same sp bonus of 52. 23:24 _Sindragosa in Naxxramas_ you meant Sapphiron 😊👍 no worries tho 29:52 all pets are vanity pets in wotlk classic (I'm referring to these kinds of pets, of course, hunters have a different kind of pets). Pet battles weren't added until Pandaria. Also, about fishing, there is a rare pet (linked to an achievement) so idk if the pet was added in wotlk. The Crawldad. When you summon it and speak to it, it has a chance to grant a nice stamina buff. It might not be very convenient because of the rarity and buff RNG, but it could be useful sometimes. 33:27 cooking has another great recipe: Spicy Mammoth Treats. A very powerful buff for your pet, and can be used on a demonology warlock's Felguard, hunter's pet or unholy DK's ghoul. This treat will give your pet the well fed buff and increase their attack power and stamina. Note: to be fair, many people don't know them, so I hope that this list can be insightful and complementary to the video. Edit: I added more as the video progressed.
It's great. If you want more spell power go tailoring on your shammy, the sp embroidery is good for resto too, and the AP embroidery is perfect for the very reliant-on-procs enhancement. Engineering is a great choice for shamans imo. It gives them an extra layer of mobility and survivability with the nitro boots and bomb dispenser. And the hand tinker with haste is superb for any spec as they all need a ton of haste.
The shadow priest discord doubts that... There's been several snapshotting changes over original wotlk, and in the last iteration it did not snapshot spell power (so it's updates every time it resets from mind flay), but it does snapshot crit rating so temporary buffs to crit can be really important. We don't know which version we'll get yet, but it's most likely the last one.
Profession picking Guide Short Version: Are you a raider and a melee class / Hunter? Jewelcrafting + Engineering. Are you a raider + Caster dps? Engineering + Tailoring Potential exceptions to the above: Feral cat Jewelcrafting + Blacksmithing for extra sockets for arp / hit caps in 3.3. Are you a PvPer? Engineering + Tailoring / Jewelcrafting / Blacksmithing Anything other than whats stated above? Pick whatever it doesnt matter.
The details you put in this video got me to subscribe. I like it, love deep dives that goes into all options. One question, if I'm engineer and alch, with alch stone of 40% more from potions, and using runic injector as engineer with increased effect, do those 2 stack to give a LOT more mana back?
The alchemist stones say "does not stack", but I reckon that's only with other alchemist stones (to make the effect 'unique'). I'd guess that engineers and alchemists can't double up, like you're thinking, because one overwrites the other. No idea if engineers get up to 40% bonus, but it might be less... maybe 20%! Who knows?!
It does not. The alchemist's stone says it increases the effect of any potion you can make, which means alchemy potion, but after you convert your runic mana potions into mana injectors, that counts as an item created by another profession so it doesn't double dip.
From memory, there was an infinite-use "flask" that added the equivalent of the mixology bonus and could be used in arenas. So if you had x stats from having a flask on, that alchemy special "flask" would give you x stats and is what you'd use whenever you're not actually flasking like in arenas.
I have always played a frost mage as my main but this time I might go fire for a change though I'm not 100% sure just yet, what professions would you all recommend for a frost or fire mage in WOTLK?
Important question: Does Runic mana injector bonus STACK with the alchemy trinket benifit? (Making a restoshaman with EnGi and Alc very lokely, but need to know do they stack.
I know this is late, but from what I remember, there isn't much issue with mana sustain as a healer in wrath, at least starting from Ulduar. We itemized for output rather than mana for the most part. This was part of the reason for the mana nerf that came in Cata. In Wrath you never really thought about your mana - at most you knew which fights you needed to chug mana pots on cooldown and which fights allowed for other potions instead. Maybe without mana tide in the group - but you are talking about rshaman so that hypothetical is irrelevant.
In all of those videos creators mention how tailoring is second best profession to engineering and could be better than JC, because of cloak enchant. But doesn't engineering have it's own cloak enchant? And most likely if you pick tailoring, you won't be able to use tailoring cloak enchant together with Engi cloak enchant, making you miss out on Engi cloak enchant? Doesn't that make Engi + JC straight better than Engi + Trailoring?
Sounds about right to me that's what I was thinking. For me I'll think I'll go JC + Tailoring with the main selling point being the mage I plan to play has tailoring maxed already.
The engi cloak enchant isn't that great IMO, it's really for slow fall utility in BGs, the spellpower bonus is pretty minimal. With engineering you get the haste gloves, frag belt bomb, etc as well. Then you can use your tailoring cloak enchantment with all that. Or go JC. What professions are you going to go?
@@Toyhouze I will stay engi enchanting as I am now on my mage, I think, and then, early wotlk perhaps gonna switch from enchanting to tailoring or JC, whatever end us being better in the actual wotlk.
you glossed over the fact that fishing can give a waterlogged recipe and other stuff that gives u tokens thats needed to buy recipes for other professions
I didn't understand why engineering is at the top, above jewelcrafting and tailoring, as far as I understood, jewelcraft and tailoring gives you raw stats while engineering offers utility ? doesn't that make jewelcrafting and tailoring always better for pve ? maybe a more experienced player can fill me in on what I'm missing here
Engineering has a haste activation. It's a ton of haste. On top of frag belt bomb for AOE it's great for both DPS and tanks. Those are the main PvE uses off the top of my head. It's all in the video though.
engineering has a ton of important utility that makes raids go faster, but also grenades. Just the grenades on their own would be enough to make it the best. Ever seen a speed running guild use 25 sapper grenades and instantly blow up an entire raid trash pack? it's insane.
After the first 6 minute of this video of I’m thinking you should have put engineering last because there’s just no way anything comes close after hearing all that.
Hahaha I put it first to not waste anyone's time, and JC second so that the best two are first xD Good tip though thanks. What professions are you going?
This was the best profession overview for WotLK that I've seen. Despite playing the expansion a lot at a high end back then, I still learned a couple things. Nice job.
I have gone through your videos over the last few days and you are 110% the best wotlk youtuber for advice and guides. Make dungeon and raid guides aswell maybe?
Having played on Private Wotlk you are 100% engineering on every class/spec + whatever extra profession you want. Raiding or PvP engineering is just amazing.
@@Toyhouze exactly. I have multiple alliance rooms but leaning towards playing horde in Wrath as a lock and I really like engineering but don’t know if it would be a good choice for a lock.
A nice guide should be of accumulation of materials to bring engineering or jewelcrafting to lvl max... I mean, how I can level up herbalism and mining in order to save materials for ultimate professions
As a brand new player i learned a lot, but honestly this hasnt helped me pick professions at all. This is still the best noob friendly video ive seen, but i dont know enough to pick anything
Sad that blackamithig is difficult to level and just alright. I just love blacksmithing. But not sure if I will level it. Right now I have mining and skinning while leveling
"eliminates the last bit of social interaction in the game" - trying to sell enchants is the worst part of this proffesion (or any) by far. No one wants to afk in town spamming chat for an hour just to earn some gold.
@@Toyhouze I've got all of professions. Enchanting is my least favourite just because of the fact that I am unable to earn money from it for the reason mentioned above. With this changing in Wrath, BS comes to the top as the least favourite. The best is inscription for me.
Scribe and JC will be your big money makers. Folks can start farming low level mats now (herbs/ore) to put on the AH as folks will be looking to power level. I would like to know if scribe will be available prepatch. I can't remember if it was originally.
I always went engineering in Wrath. Not because I wanted to be top tier PvE and PvP with nice enchants and ability to banker/auctioneer. No I liked fireworks lol
In warmane i pick up herb and skinning, while a frost lotus these time cost 40G and mamoth hide cost 120G compare to a 20g titanium ore, then i use those gold to buy iceblade arrow, battled hilt, unblind ilvl 264, mechahog and invincible reign
Best advice pick a profession that's going to benefit your characters power or that you will find fun. Doing it for gold making reasons doesn't make sense since everyone knows the gold making methods and will make them pretty much unprofitable for most players
i mean good video and all. but i just found cuz of another video from you, where u said that u will also detail out which profession suits best for which class. but all you said was like "yeah plate guys go blacksmithing" or "leather and mail dudes go for leatherworking". this is definetly not wehat u promised so this one gets a dislike for false advertisement
@toyhouze , do you need a min char level for maxing scribe? or can i just buy all the herbs and skill it till end for darkmoon cards with a lvl 70 char?
I'm gonna play three healers in Wrath, which means three engineers and maybe even as many jewelcrafters. And I'm certainly not suckering into the mega-inflated material prices we're seeing already. Oh boy. My miner character is gonna get a looooot of mileage.
I'm planning to play my beloved Holy Paladin in Wrath. I'm thinking of my professions being JC & Alchemist. I will also be running alts for every other profession to support the pally raiding.
Question : As I'm leveling alchemy, do I need to chose one of the 3 specs like I did in tbc or at Wotlk you get all benefits? what do you recommend as its still tbc.
I like your videos bro I disagree for enchanting bonus is the only way to get your rings enchant. Yes is less from other profession, but the rest of your gear you get fro enchanting or rep total is a same with other prof that is my opinion.
Copper ore for some reason on all the servers I have ever played on been worth alot and always more than silverleaf/peacebloom. For some reason other ores are always completely worthless, but for herbs/flowers the value almost always increases with level. Not sure if it's just the servers I have played on, but it feels soo strange to me that it is this way since the lowest level supplies are only useful for such a short time and very common.
Professions are so huge in wrath, especially engi! It’s great for pretty much everyone serious about raiding and it’s fun. Some great tips on how to make gold and good info here. Very based video!
@@deantimothy4386 As someone who played many wotlk pservers - mining is a great moneymaker since ores and bars are so valuable and you can make titansteel bars. Unless you're going to be your guild's enchanter or farming low level dungeons with a paladin to get greens I recommend ditching enchanting. If you're an engineer you can also "skin" leviathan, the first boss in ulduar, for a lot of gold. I don't know how it's going to be in classic but you can even do leviathan runs on your alts with a few friends due to the way levi works. You can also suck eternals from clouds in wintergrasp. Plus you get the repair bot and ability to use the AH in dalaran. Engineering is just so busted in wotlk. That said Wotlk is the alt expansion as well. You want alts to do the cooking daily for spices and probably the mining cooldown as well and tailoring cooldown.
I’m playing a Feral tank and just not sure what professions to pick, I’m leaning to Mining/BS but JC sounds really good. What would you recommend for a bear tank?
I always liked herb/alchemy for feral tank. Alchemy gives you indestructible Alchemist's Stone which is 75+ stam, dodge 50+, and 40% more healing from your endless healing potion(which has one min CD on the potion). Mixology will boost you flat health flask by effect and time so you get even more health for longer. also you can make yourself Indestructible Potion which gives 3500 armor for 2 mins on a 1 min CD. Herbalism will gives you another nice heal with lifeblood.
You mentioned losing the gem slots if you drop BS but I assume it’s the same for the cloak enchant from tailoring? Otherwise getting one of those and dropping it for another prof would be op.
Just started out playing on Classic, leveling my first character (Warlock) and thinking about what profession to pick to make some gold and buff my character. Is Tailoring/Engineering combo good for it? And also what about Jewelcrafting/Engi?
If it's your first character you might want to get a gathering profession to make gold. Definitely tailoring engineering is the best for making your character strong, but will require a lot of gold without mining
Is it true that engineer mounts like the chopper can be used by everyone without being an engineer? So it would be different than the tailoring mounts.
Notes about things that were not mentioned in the video:
2:25 The engineering head tinker grants 45 stam, aside from the mind control. This is the highest stamina enchantment in wotlk.
4:04 except nitro boots can fail to burst speed forward. Instead, they have a chance to launch you upwards incredibly fast and for a very high distance. If you have any form of slow fall, a survival CD or land in a pond, you're fine. If you don't, you'll likely die.
Luckily, I haven't seen the launch activate inside dungeons or raids, but I've seen it do it in BGS and the open world.
4:21 you forgot to mention that there are two cloak tinkers with the same slow fall effect and CD. One grants spell power and the other one grants agility.
Also for the tanks, there is an engineering hand tinker with extra armor. It's a really strong one.
6:06 Note about the wormhole and portable mailbox: these items do NOT bind after use so you can trade them and other grand master engineers can use them. Maybe you can send to your alts, lend to a friend or put in the guild bank. Idk if the CD remains after passing them.
You can choose gnomish or goblin specialization. Choosing gnomish will allow you to create arrows that are currently the best ones for hunters and they sell for a lot of gold. (Hunters still use ammo in wotlk).
Engineering also allows you to create googles with nice stats, as well as trinkets. These are nice if you're gearing up, especially at fresh 80.
I know that in classic tbc they changed it so that the chicken trinket didn't work as it used to, but I guess it's worth trying it out in wotlk classic. The chicken trinket will increase the raid melee haste by 5%, which, if proven to still work will be very strong all the way to the ruby sanctum (the last raid).
9:30 jewelcrafting also allows you to create special rings, necklaces and trinkets which are nice for gearing up, especially at fresh 80.
10:54 another great item to have is the super useful and very often forgotten alchemist-only "Infinite Mana Potion" and "Infinite Healing Potion" which have the same effect as the Runic ones and they are in fact infinite.
12:21 just jump in the wotah to clear the debuff
17:04 oh not just one was added in wotlk, but two. The Magnificent Flying Carpet (purple and orange) is a pattern learned at the trainer. And a gnome NPC in Dalaran sells the pattern to create the Icy Flying Carpet (blue) in exchange for frozen orbs. Both fly at 280% speed.
And now that we have mentioned mounts. I know these are from tbc, but don't forget that engineering has the Flying Machine and Fast Flying Machine. And tailoring has the Flying Carpet which is green and flies at 150% speed.
19:45 a small one but a good one and not added in wrath. The shield wards for paladin and war tanks are great. They will absorb a lot of damage until breaking. They can be used by blacksmiths and non-blacksmiths.
22:26 it's worth mentioning that the drums of the wild give a slightly weaker version of gift of the wild. There's also the drums of forgotten kings which will work like Pala kings except for 8% stats instead of 10. These, as you said, are great if you don't have a Pala or druid in your group. The drums from tbc are no longer useful at max level in wrath because they specifically say that they won't work on players above level 70.
And talking about missing raid buffs, scribes will be able to create scrolls of fortitude, similar to the drums added in wotlk, one of these scrolls will buff all your raid members with a weaker version of Prayer of Fortitude (priest stamina buff). Sadly, there is no equivalent scroll or drum for the mages' intellect buff.
23:00 it's worth noting that the spell power bonus from LW is the same as enchanting, blacksmithing (when using two red 23 sp gems in your extra sockets), alchemy(+1 point) and inscription. JC and tailoring are superior as they give about the same sp bonus of 52.
23:24 _Sindragosa in Naxxramas_ you meant Sapphiron 😊👍 no worries tho
29:52 all pets are vanity pets in wotlk classic (I'm referring to these kinds of pets, of course, hunters have a different kind of pets). Pet battles weren't added until Pandaria.
Also, about fishing, there is a rare pet (linked to an achievement) so idk if the pet was added in wotlk. The Crawldad. When you summon it and speak to it, it has a chance to grant a nice stamina buff. It might not be very convenient because of the rarity and buff RNG, but it could be useful sometimes.
33:27 cooking has another great recipe: Spicy Mammoth Treats. A very powerful buff for your pet, and can be used on a demonology warlock's Felguard, hunter's pet or unholy DK's ghoul. This treat will give your pet the well fed buff and increase their attack power and stamina.
Note: to be fair, many people don't know them, so I hope that this list can be insightful and complementary to the video.
Edit: I added more as the video progressed.
Excellent write up filling in gaps. Thank you.
I've seen, and had nitro boots fail on me in ICC before.
Do you have a GDoc formating everything ? ^^
Great video! I think I go mining and enchanter with my new tank.
27:35
"maxing out at 60 mana" :D
LOL that is hilarious. 60 mana rofl. Thanks man xD
I giggled haha ^^
Ty for this guide man
Np! Glad you enjoyed it!
oooh engineering it is! Thanks for the vid Toyhouze!
Three times during tailoring you said you need imbued netherweave instead of frostweave and I laughed everytime
All WOTLK cinematics still give me chills. I will be doing enchanting/engineering on an ele shaman.
Same man. Great choice!
It's great. If you want more spell power go tailoring on your shammy, the sp embroidery is good for resto too, and the AP embroidery is perfect for the very reliant-on-procs enhancement.
Engineering is a great choice for shamans imo. It gives them an extra layer of mobility and survivability with the nitro boots and bomb dispenser. And the hand tinker with haste is superb for any spec as they all need a ton of haste.
picking up profession is not the hardest part, but leveling them up from scratch is :D
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As near everyone wants enginering its a good time to be a gnome. Cheap leveling
The light weave embroidery is best for shadow priest imo...since your swp once casted will keep the bonus as it is refreshed
Good tip!
The shadow priest discord doubts that... There's been several snapshotting changes over original wotlk, and in the last iteration it did not snapshot spell power (so it's updates every time it resets from mind flay), but it does snapshot crit rating so temporary buffs to crit can be really important. We don't know which version we'll get yet, but it's most likely the last one.
Now that's what I call a guide
Profession picking Guide Short Version:
Are you a raider and a melee class / Hunter? Jewelcrafting + Engineering.
Are you a raider + Caster dps? Engineering + Tailoring
Potential exceptions to the above:
Feral cat Jewelcrafting + Blacksmithing for extra sockets for arp / hit caps in 3.3.
Are you a PvPer? Engineering + Tailoring / Jewelcrafting / Blacksmithing
Anything other than whats stated above? Pick whatever it doesnt matter.
Big Madseasonshow vibes, nice video
The details you put in this video got me to subscribe. I like it, love deep dives that goes into all options.
One question, if I'm engineer and alch, with alch stone of 40% more from potions, and using runic injector as engineer with increased effect, do those 2 stack to give a LOT more mana back?
Glad you enjoyed it! Based on how it worked back in the day - the two do not stack.
The alchemist stones say "does not stack", but I reckon that's only with other alchemist stones (to make the effect 'unique').
I'd guess that engineers and alchemists can't double up, like you're thinking, because one overwrites the other. No idea if engineers get up to 40% bonus, but it might be less... maybe 20%! Who knows?!
It does not. The alchemist's stone says it increases the effect of any potion you can make, which means alchemy potion, but after you convert your runic mana potions into mana injectors, that counts as an item created by another profession so it doesn't double dip.
You missed Transmute Titanium, which transmutes saronite into Titanium
Mine is enchanting and tailoring (combat rouge)
BRO WHATS THE SONG ON THE ALCHEMY INTRO?
What do you think would be good for a rouge?
what professions for DK Tank? i thought about jewel and engineering
Engineering all the way. Maybe we can rebuild the platform during the Lich King fight again and get banned for something that's Blizzards fault ;).
Can you please explain the benefits of Alchemy in arena? Can you use pots or flasks? Im confused, in google I found mixed answers. Thank you!
From memory, there was an infinite-use "flask" that added the equivalent of the mixology bonus and could be used in arenas. So if you had x stats from having a flask on, that alchemy special "flask" would give you x stats and is what you'd use whenever you're not actually flasking like in arenas.
Casters and warriors ! Prepare to be tailors and engineers!
I have always played a frost mage as my main but this time I might go fire for a change though I'm not 100% sure just yet, what professions would you all recommend for a frost or fire mage in WOTLK?
Engineering / tailoring imo
Important question: Does Runic mana injector bonus STACK with the alchemy trinket benifit? (Making a restoshaman with EnGi and Alc very lokely, but need to know do they stack.
They do not stack unfortunately :( great question though
@@Toyhouze Thanks for the quick reply! =)
I know this is late, but from what I remember, there isn't much issue with mana sustain as a healer in wrath, at least starting from Ulduar. We itemized for output rather than mana for the most part.
This was part of the reason for the mana nerf that came in Cata. In Wrath you never really thought about your mana - at most you knew which fights you needed to chug mana pots on cooldown and which fights allowed for other potions instead. Maybe without mana tide in the group - but you are talking about rshaman so that hypothetical is irrelevant.
Can u do the Self Heal from Herbalism in shadowform?
Yes that should work because shadow form prevents only holy spells from being cast
So if I want to focus Arena as a Warlock (Likely Destro) with potential raiding (Maybe Demo) I want Engi + Something correct?
Seems like nobody knows if the engi devices can be used in arena or not
You can use the tinkers in arena? That’s pretty broken.
Not sure about all of them, but I know for sure the hand mounted pyro rocket worked.
27:34 60 mana lol
In all of those videos creators mention how tailoring is second best profession to engineering and could be better than JC, because of cloak enchant.
But doesn't engineering have it's own cloak enchant? And most likely if you pick tailoring, you won't be able to use tailoring cloak enchant together with Engi cloak enchant, making you miss out on Engi cloak enchant?
Doesn't that make Engi + JC straight better than Engi + Trailoring?
Sounds about right to me that's what I was thinking. For me I'll think I'll go JC + Tailoring with the main selling point being the mage I plan to play has tailoring maxed already.
The engi cloak enchant isn't that great IMO, it's really for slow fall utility in BGs, the spellpower bonus is pretty minimal. With engineering you get the haste gloves, frag belt bomb, etc as well. Then you can use your tailoring cloak enchantment with all that. Or go JC. What professions are you going to go?
@@Toyhouze I will stay engi enchanting as I am now on my mage, I think, and then, early wotlk perhaps gonna switch from enchanting to tailoring or JC, whatever end us being better in the actual wotlk.
25:55
Fingers crossed that they go into the math. But not very hopeful.
you glossed over the fact that fishing can give a waterlogged recipe and other stuff that gives u tokens thats needed to buy recipes for other professions
Now I just need my guild to make up their mind on if we're rolling horde or not so I can start leveling toons and prepping for wrath!
@Classic#Dracula those are definitely all words.
I didn't understand why engineering is at the top, above jewelcrafting and tailoring, as far as I understood, jewelcraft and tailoring gives you raw stats while engineering offers utility ? doesn't that make jewelcrafting and tailoring always better for pve ? maybe a more experienced player can fill me in on what I'm missing here
Engineering has a haste activation. It's a ton of haste. On top of frag belt bomb for AOE it's great for both DPS and tanks. Those are the main PvE uses off the top of my head. It's all in the video though.
engineering has a ton of important utility that makes raids go faster, but also grenades. Just the grenades on their own would be enough to make it the best. Ever seen a speed running guild use 25 sapper grenades and instantly blow up an entire raid trash pack? it's insane.
Anyone know if the cloak enhancement from tailoring will stay if you drop tailoring?
It won't stay
@@Toyhouze that's a shame
Yeah would be really awesome to make your character mega strong with that + engi/JC
@@Toyhouze technically it does stay, but it's not active until you have the required tailoring level again. So it's a wasted enchant spot.
After the first 6 minute of this video of I’m thinking you should have put engineering last because there’s just no way anything comes close after hearing all that.
Hahaha I put it first to not waste anyone's time, and JC second so that the best two are first xD Good tip though thanks. What professions are you going?
@@Toyhouze engineering now, duh
Lame expansion
This was the best profession overview for WotLK that I've seen. Despite playing the expansion a lot at a high end back then, I still learned a couple things. Nice job.
Thank you!
Presentation 5/5
Research 5/5
Thank you so much man. This one really really helped.
I have gone through your videos over the last few days and you are 110% the best wotlk youtuber for advice and guides. Make dungeon and raid guides aswell maybe?
1:18 engineering
6:26 jewel crafting
9:25 alchemy
12:08 skinning
13:52 tailoring
17:22 blacksmithing
18:48 inscription
22:02 leatherworking
24:20 herbalism
25:24 enchanting
26:50 mining
28:42 fishing
32:32 cooking
34:00 first aid
For those who didn’t read the description first.
Having played on Private Wotlk you are 100% engineering on every class/spec + whatever extra profession you want. Raiding or PvP engineering is just amazing.
this is the greatest profession guide ive seen tyvm
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks!
Great video but you just made it harder to choose which profession to pick. 🤣
Hahaha I know right?! I literally want all of them now.
@@Toyhouze exactly. I have multiple alliance rooms but leaning towards playing horde in Wrath as a lock and I really like engineering but don’t know if it would be a good choice for a lock.
Toons
@@alonsotorres1509 warlock= tailoring /eng
@@notafortnitegamer I’ll rewatch the video to see the benefits again.
Wow was the only full-time job that I enjoyed.
A nice guide should be of accumulation of materials to bring engineering or jewelcrafting to lvl max...
I mean, how I can level up herbalism and mining in order to save materials for ultimate professions
You can buy ore now and smelt a new character to 290 mining just through smelting ore you bought as preparation
As a brand new player i learned a lot, but honestly this hasnt helped me pick professions at all. This is still the best noob friendly video ive seen, but i dont know enough to pick anything
Everyone go engi and JC, who needs potions/elixirs/glyphs/enchants/BS LW Tailoring gear etc..
Shhh, your adding competition
I think I missed where you suggested professions for each class. I'm looking to make a fire mage. Any suggestions?
Sad that blackamithig is difficult to level and just alright. I just love blacksmithing. But not sure if I will level it. Right now I have mining and skinning while leveling
This video is the best about WotLK professions bonus. Congratulations for your amazing TH-cam channel
Thank you! I really appreciate that!
can you do video like this for Cataclysm classic? you are doing best of this type videos.
not really the best video as half these things wont be in on launch for a while and skewes the perception of the jewelcrafting and alchemy etc
whats the name of soundtrack that starts at the very beginning and plays through entire introduction?
Sindragosa is not in Naxxramas. Your pathetic magic betrays you...
"eliminates the last bit of social interaction in the game" - trying to sell enchants is the worst part of this proffesion (or any) by far. No one wants to afk in town spamming chat for an hour just to earn some gold.
Good point - are you an enchanter?
@@Toyhouze I've got all of professions. Enchanting is my least favourite just because of the fact that I am unable to earn money from it for the reason mentioned above. With this changing in Wrath, BS comes to the top as the least favourite. The best is inscription for me.
If night elves aren’t your type, switch to furry 😂 great video man
I feel like they should nerf engi tbh. Not much reason to choose anything else it seems.
boots from egi break but its very rare and if thy do you get soem safe parachute
there were so many ppl on my server, ah prices just went right to vendor cost
I’m sorry but engineering is so overrated. It’s sad.
Scribe and JC will be your big money makers. Folks can start farming low level mats now (herbs/ore) to put on the AH as folks will be looking to power level. I would like to know if scribe will be available prepatch. I can't remember if it was originally.
Genius
I don't think it will be available, but not sure
most likely will be available in prepatch, as JC was also available in tbc prepatch.
28:23 haha props for the reference and to anyone who caught it ;p
I always went engineering in Wrath. Not because I wanted to be top tier PvE and PvP with nice enchants and ability to banker/auctioneer.
No I liked fireworks lol
Seems like bs and jc would work well together ?
How about a guide on how to get 212k gold in classic? :o
"bolt of imbued netherweave" lul
Will mining or herbalism make more money?
music was great on this video
In warmane i pick up herb and skinning, while a frost lotus these time cost 40G and mamoth hide cost 120G compare to a 20g titanium ore, then i use those gold to buy iceblade arrow, battled hilt, unblind ilvl 264, mechahog and invincible reign
Best advice pick a profession that's going to benefit your characters power or that you will find fun. Doing it for gold making reasons doesn't make sense since everyone knows the gold making methods and will make them pretty much unprofitable for most players
i mean good video and all. but i just found cuz of another video from you, where u said that u will also detail out which profession suits best for which class. but all you said was like "yeah plate guys go blacksmithing" or "leather and mail dudes go for leatherworking". this is definetly not wehat u promised so this one gets a dislike for false advertisement
@toyhouze , do you need a min char level for maxing scribe? or can i just buy all the herbs and skill it till end for darkmoon cards with a lvl 70 char?
I'm gonna play three healers in Wrath, which means three engineers and maybe even as many jewelcrafters. And I'm certainly not suckering into the mega-inflated material prices we're seeing already. Oh boy. My miner character is gonna get a looooot of mileage.
"...but in Patch 3.3.3, repeating" - Leeroy Jenkins quotes are ALWAYS appreciated! Kudos
28:23 yay I got the reference
Jewelcrafting for the money.
I went engineering/mining as my prof for my first/main (gnome warlock) hopefully it was a good choice….
You say engi is best overall, but is it bis for arena? If all the tinkers are banned except the glove rockets, that doesn't seem too great
what about the skinning/mining hammer or blacksmithing/mining hammer? was'nt that also in wotlk, from bs or engi?
I'm planning to play my beloved Holy Paladin in Wrath. I'm thinking of my professions being JC & Alchemist. I will also be running alts for every other profession to support the pally raiding.
Mmmmm hyperspeed accelerator macrod with drain soul in arena. nom nom noms
Question : As I'm leveling alchemy, do I need to chose one of the 3 specs like I did in tbc or at Wotlk you get all benefits? what do you recommend as its still tbc.
What phase do you think the bop epic gems will come out?
do the mana injectors share the cooldown with the potions?
I like your videos bro I disagree for enchanting bonus is the only way to get your rings enchant. Yes is less from other profession, but the rest of your gear you get fro enchanting or rep total is a same with other prof that is my opinion.
Most excellent video
thank you :)
an 10/10 vid
It should be noted that the plural of vellum is vella, not 'vellums'.
Wait..i can remember nitro boots breaking sometimes. It blasts you high up in the air.
Definitely stocking up on herbs and ores for the power leveling rush at launch
Good idea! Which do you think will be more valuable?
Copper ore for some reason on all the servers I have ever played on been worth alot and always more than silverleaf/peacebloom. For some reason other ores are always completely worthless, but for herbs/flowers the value almost always increases with level. Not sure if it's just the servers I have played on, but it feels soo strange to me that it is this way since the lowest level supplies are only useful for such a short time and very common.
Professions are so huge in wrath, especially engi! It’s great for pretty much everyone serious about raiding and it’s fun. Some great tips on how to make gold and good info here. Very based video!
100% agree! Thanks!
So mad I dropped engineering on my paladin for enchanting 😂 should’ve dropped mining
@@deantimothy4386 As someone who played many wotlk pservers - mining is a great moneymaker since ores and bars are so valuable and you can make titansteel bars. Unless you're going to be your guild's enchanter or farming low level dungeons with a paladin to get greens I recommend ditching enchanting. If you're an engineer you can also "skin" leviathan, the first boss in ulduar, for a lot of gold. I don't know how it's going to be in classic but you can even do leviathan runs on your alts with a few friends due to the way levi works. You can also suck eternals from clouds in wintergrasp. Plus you get the repair bot and ability to use the AH in dalaran. Engineering is just so busted in wotlk.
That said Wotlk is the alt expansion as well. You want alts to do the cooking daily for spices and probably the mining cooldown as well and tailoring cooldown.
I’m playing a Feral tank and just not sure what professions to pick, I’m leaning to Mining/BS but JC sounds really good. What would you recommend for a bear tank?
I always liked herb/alchemy for feral tank. Alchemy gives you indestructible Alchemist's Stone which is 75+ stam, dodge 50+, and 40% more healing from your endless healing potion(which has one min CD on the potion). Mixology will boost you flat health flask by effect and time so you get even more health for longer. also you can make yourself Indestructible Potion which gives 3500 armor for 2 mins on a 1 min CD.
Herbalism will gives you another nice heal with lifeblood.
awesome dude!
Thanks!
You mentioned losing the gem slots if you drop BS but I assume it’s the same for the cloak enchant from tailoring? Otherwise getting one of those and dropping it for another prof would be op.
Yep it's the same for tailoring and all profession-specific bonuses - they are lost if you drop the profession
I miss using engineering stuff in Arena
jc/engi
The subtle humor in this video🤣
Just started out playing on Classic, leveling my first character (Warlock) and thinking about what profession to pick to make some gold and buff my character. Is Tailoring/Engineering combo good for it?
And also what about Jewelcrafting/Engi?
If it's your first character you might want to get a gathering profession to make gold. Definitely tailoring engineering is the best for making your character strong, but will require a lot of gold without mining
Btw, Divine Plea is not affected by haste :)
Is it true that engineer mounts like the chopper can be used by everyone without being an engineer? So it would be different than the tailoring mounts.
If I remember correctly the answer is Yes. BUT only the engineer can buy the parts that can make it (in K3)
great video. im a orc hunter with leather working and skinning. do i have to go JC/ENG if i want to do well in raids? Thanks!
Thanks! You don't have to, it's really just min maxing