I remember making thousands of netherweave bags back in TBC, around 10k if I recall. Not unlikely the majority eventually came across one of my bags on Frostmane EU. -Gythian
Can confirm auction house flipping can be extremely lucrative in TBC although I used to slave away competing with other players and bots trying to farm Motes/Primals and doing laps around Nagrand trying to find veins to mine and would make a small income each time. My GF at the time would just sit in the AH she was JC/Alc (transmute master) and she managed early on to get the majority of JC recipes (pre Hyjal gems) and would simply look for Adamantite ore and if it was selling for a price she deemed reasonable she would buy it, prospect it and then cut the gems she got and relist them. I remember her investing 10k gold just buying ore and uncut gems and then flipping it and doubling or even tripling her money. On top of that she made plenty just transmuting primal might early on and making a fortune selling that as a lot of pre bis uses it.
In high population tbc servers , I always stick with farming sunken temple with skinning , the boe drops are okay , but the cloth and skin + vendor trash is consistent . You’ll find it hard too farm ANYTHING in Outland
Another great but slow/RNG way to make gold is to vendor camp the engineering vendors in Area 52 and the Ethereal guys in Stormspire, They can sell motes and herbs for cheap, as well as potions and crafted Engineering items that normally would require motes/primal to craft such as the Khorium Power Core (khorium bar, primal fire).
JC is the best. Living Ruby ftw. At the high, I was selling each Delicate for 250g. Flasks go for 60g-90g as most CDs are worth like Diamonds, Cloths, etc. My eng is good too but primals are 25g at most. Farming minging/herb = 250g-350g /hr. Plenty of ways to make plenty of gold. But buying cheap ore and prospecting, and JC in general makes so much more than all of the other together. I'm only missing LW and Tailoring.
I actually still love the fishing and cooking dailies xD Its such a lowkey thing to do at the end of the night I its one step towards the eventual Chef title!
Hay mate, nice and informative video. Just some criticism: please put up more images of what you are refering to (as you did with the fish and cooking), at least for the less obvious things. Gets more engaging and interesting as a viewer, it gets pretty stale to just look at b-rolls for 98% of the video.
#1 Will continue to be GDKP raid leading. The % cut they 'earn' is so ridiculous they end up with multiple legendary's from MC and Naxx, and are still going into BCC with over 100k gold.
Rogue chests farming (if they are not fixed that is). Edit: I think back in the days in TBC before it got hotfixed you could easily do 300G an hour as a rogue in Mechanar, if not more. Ahhhh, that was amazing.
@@smoke4824 You need lockpicking mate :( I will put it in short how the method was: you would pull the chest pack from a position where the mobs have to run to. When they are about to reach you, you would jump off the edge, vanish and lockpick the chest.
How about Black Morass trash farm? Professions needed skinning and enchanting. I used prot paladin with Figurine of the Colossus trinket (every block heals like 125hp and Warchief Kargath drops it) with some other trinket that increased block chance. I pulled spiders from one side, then the other. Killed them all and then beasts. Why? So i can loot and have time for skinning and by the time you make next pull after looting and skinning, your trinkets cooldowns are passed. You can get a lot of spider silk, leather and disenchant greens/blues.
Was thinking that while you farm Black Morass, you can also sell boost to lvl 70 there. Think it was from 68-70. What we also did back in TBC later patches was selling Amani War Bears. Every member from the raid was paid 1000g and we invited buyer when boss came.
It is exactly because that the mages will no longer be able to boost that the few protection paladins will be able to ask for whatever price they want and do as many boosts as they want being able to boost from Stockades up to Stratholme almost easily with the proper gear which is not even hard to get. I mean, you have to consider that the current Classic prices will be converted into the TBC prices so the paladins will be able and will ask for so much more gold for boosting. p.s. this kind of farm so to speak that is practically relative to the realm economy is absolutely amazing
Oh there won't be a "few" protection paladins. Mark my words, day 1 of TBC you will every single boosting mage roll a Prot Pally and get that character up there ASAP. Prot Pallies will be everywhere you look. On the up side it'll mean there'll never be anyone hard up for finding a tank. But the potential downside is that boosting rates are going to drop, big time. You're not going to be able to charge a ton for boosting when there's 10+ other pallies all offering boosting for any given dungeon.
@@d0k0night Not really? Do you play Classic? 90% of the Boosters are gold sellers with very crap gear that do not invest in the game nor their character because they know that they risk to get banned eventually. So you will not see that many geared paladins. Actually, we barely see any boosters nowadays since Shadowlands came and i guess that is because the Classic gold rate plumetted with the demand being at its lowest.
One of the reasons why Anchient linchen will be inexpensive as hell. You can do this with every class. At lvl 70, the agro range of the mobs is low enough that you can sneak past the first pat and get all 4 nodes.
I remeber to pay for my epic flyer back in BC I would just chest farm mana crypts all day on my rogue. Was also ore nodes inside for a bit of extra gold as well.
You put some items on the screen to show what they are, but not others. I wish you would be consistent in the aspect. Not trying to be a dick, just want you to do it for all items. Not all of us, including myself, know what these items are. And being a visual learner, would really appreciate you doing that. Thank you.
the arcanite fishing rod is currently +35, i dont know if its going to naturally upgrade to +40 in TBC or not, either way that still makes it one of the best rods in TBC, u can catch me in zangarmarsh fishing on release day!
I got my 1st 5k gold from grinding Crusader enchant in Tyr's hand. When i started, price for enchant was about 250g i believe, latter dropped to 50g. But even though my intent to get rich by selling Crusader vaporized, soon i discovered that actual gold mine is from vendoring loot i got from killing elite mobs down there. Being a Rogue was made it maybe a little bit easier because of the stunlock and runecloth bandages (mobs drop), i had almost no downtime, it was smooth and fast. Aprox 2 hours every day for less then a week i got my epic flying mount. This way you do not depend on other players, auction house and professions, just good old grind with very predictable outcome. J
cobra scales will have a lot of competition since there are only a couple places to farm for them, I was on a low pop server back in BC and even then I was always running into others farming the same areas and the respawn isn't fast. Elemental Plateau lol yeah the only time I ever found that place to be void of someone farming was when Wrath launched.
Daily is a good way. ~150g per Day for 1h work (sometimes more, sometime less) isnt that bad. 4500g a month just from dailys, is a easy good gold making way
#2 Boosting The AoE Damage nerf I think will make boosting take a huge hit. Not stop it, but significantly slow it down. Even at 70 things like Mara single pulls I'm guessing won't be a thing. Certainly ZG 1 pulls I can't imagine will work. Obviously you can still boost people in said dungeons but you will have to do more pulls of smaller packs and in extension take make times longer to clear the full dungeons and in extension be significantly less efficient. But perhaps you'll still be able to hit the dungeons per hour cap as you are suggesting? *shrug*
2. Boosting is super profitable, and supper annoying, I had to install and set up an addon to get rid of the spam from boosters. Plus half of them are selling the gold for real money wink wink.
Jewel crafting is probably going to be the best profession..alot of people going caster means alot more tailors..so...motes and gems will be high value..cloth made items not so much...blacksmithing will be good until t5 comes out.
My man you forgot to tell your viewers that if you want to flip the auction House you nedd to have atleast 10k+ gold . I did it in vanilla and i also will do it in tbc but i am prepared with 40k gold atm .
I'll probably safe lvl 67-70 quests for when i reach 70. gonna run instances to get to max and then farm quests (including daylies) for the final push to 5k gold. Next netherwings dailies and mote farming just so I get my second char basic epic flying (Herbalism / Alchemy char). Then I am pretty much set for the expo in terms of gold.
@@shroud4269 Because any XP a quest would give you is instead converted into gold if you are lvl 70. Additionally let us consider reputation. To get revered (And as such access to heroic dungeons) with specific factions, you need alot of reputation, which you would grind by doing dungeons. Lets say we set reaching level 70 and doing heroics as our first goal. If we do quests and then do dungeons at max level, then we get the reputation from quests while we are at neutral and reach friendly at lvl 70. After which we would need to grind dungeons till honored and lvl 70 dungeons till revered. Sounds good, but now let us turn that around. If we instead save our quests till level 70 then we can do this: Honorhold and Thrallmar reputation is gained in the first dungeon of TBC. A dungeon which does not give rep if you are at level 70, so we use that one to grind to lvl 62. Then do Slave Pens, Auchindoun dungeons etc till 67, caverns of time and lvl 68-70 dungeons to 70. Now we still have every single quest, we are at 70, likely friendly - honored with alot of factions. Here comes the kicker: Quests allways give the same reputation, no matter the level. So we reach Honored with the factions we want first, then do the quests. This should get us a good way to revered with some factions and alot of gold. In short: - We have to do dungeon grinds anyways for Reputation. - If we do the quests first and then do the grind, then we can not do every dungeon for that grind (Because of the step between honored and revered). - Switching Questing and dungeon grinding around, lets us save quests for honored - Revered. - Doing so saves us time and grinding at max level. - It also nets us between 1,5 and 2k of additional gold.
still need them for a number of things like potions for leveling alchemy and those same potions aren't necessarily useless. on private servers ive seen the prices still high so demand is still there
Ichor of undeath has always sold for 1-10 silver lol. wicked claw down to 1-10 silver too a lot of these white items are from classic and arent worth anything anymore
@@denome3725 Not sure if that will apply the way you think mate. Blizzard did the same thing with flamestrike and it capped inside its target area. Hopefully I am wrong, but I think consecrate will behave the same way all other AoE does.
@@thaforseti31 It does get capped but the way Paladins get around it is they have things like Shield spike, Retribution aura and items that cause damage when they are struck on top of holy shield and consecration so they can still do massive pulls and become much better at it than mages.
So. Question or comment to the video, not sure which one. Boosting is very profitable in current Classic wow yes, the only issue that will pop up in BC will be mages got capped on their damage from Blizzard at the start or during one of the patches. Will Blizzard incorporate that as a no changes issue since there will be a lot of backlash I'm guessing? Also there will be the other big question of when the ZA patch XP squish will take effect for levels 20-60?
Nice tips, but you forgot a big one, but that's a way that very few ppl can do, guess what? Arena boosting, pvers will pay huge amounts of money to get pvp weapons.
Sidenote: If you got your 5k for epic flying: Netherwing dailies are a good source of income. To get from Neutral to exalted will net you about 3000 gold, so you got most of your investment back.
Yeah I forgot about that.I do think boosting will be less common with the aoe nerf! I don't see a lot of boosting at all on TBC private servers, although could be in part due to purchasable exp boosts.
@@Toyhouze Paladins get around this, because their damage comes from Thorn effects. Which are not affected by the AOE cap, since it is just multiple instances of single-target damage. So they pull the entire instance, while healing themselves, give themselves Ret aura and the Tanking blessing, with a Thorned shield and just stand there watching the mobs kill themselves.
I'll elaborate a bit on the reflection gear: 2 Items are essencial. Sporregar shield and Demon Forged breastplate. The shield puts a dot on enemies which you block, while the Breastplate gives you a 1% chance to put a dot on enemies that will drain life. These 2 will keep you alife and account for most of your damage. Then there are the Reflection items. Razor Gaunlets (Dire Maul east - Final Boss): Reflects 3 Arcane damage to anyone that hits you. Nagelring (Blackrock Depths - Golem Lord): Reflects 3 Arcane damage to anyone that hits you. Felsteel Shield Spike: Use: Attaches a Felsteel Spike to your shield that deals 26-38 damage every time you block with it. Cloak of Flame (INCREDIBLY rare): Deals 5 Fire damage to attackers. Alternative: Cloak of Fire (Tailoring) Use: Deals 5 DPS to everyone around you for 15 seconds. (2 min CD) Essence of Pure Flame: Deals 13 Fire damage to attackers. Electromagnetic Gigaflux Reactivator (Gnomeregan - Final boss): 5 Damage reflect buff for 10 minutes (30 min cd, remains after you swap the helmet). This is addition to your Paly aura, the Crystal buff from Ungoro turnins and blessing of Sanctuary (Reduces damage taken by 80, reflects 46 holy damage upon block). All of the above deal normal damage and will allow for boosting to continue.
@@allstargaming5270 Depends on how you do it. Reflect tanking it is rather quick. (Shield spike, cloak of flames, Essence of pure flame, DME gloves, BRD nagelring, Sporeggar Shield and Demon forged breastplate)
i got a warning from Blizzard back in the day i had cornered the AH with prim xmutes i had 6 transmute masters 600g a day with out doing a thing not counting procs and when they do they proc big. what got me the warning was because i had brought out everyone xmutes every day and only put 2 up it blocked everyone's professions even when they tried to sell them in chat id just buy them on a alt and it got me 1 and only 1 warning next was banned
@@stanleycapps4108 blocking progression coz i had locked the whole thing down i argued with them for 2 days and in the end i had to relist everything i had or get banned its coz of the way i was doing it.. EG prime xmutes were 100-130g on my server when i had it locked down i was selling them for 500g-700g each it got to 700g when i got the warning what i was doing is say if someone listed 1 for 600g and mine was 650g id delist everything buy his one out and put it at 700 gold there wasnt enough Xmutes to go around i was on a small server 500 max pop i think because enough people complained they acted. Im thinking of doing this gain in TBC Classic , i have 3 60 with with max alc already lol
Yea, im prtty sure all good farm spots will be full during the day, and some will be full 24/7, im on a full pop server in EU and i expect all the good spots to be taken 24/7. I hope dungeon farming will be lucrative, or else ill have to rely on mainly daily quests to make gold, which was certainly enough back in the TBC days to sustain any needs i had even as a hardcore raiding warlock, but with today's playerbase im not so sure.
I sold a skinning knife on my server for 4g the other day. people are rich and lazy thanks to boosting. I hope blizz does something about it...but i doubt it.
Well , its mos tlikely that people will get their characters for classic TBC. Blizzard wont force people to leave their classic chars. I mean they arent doing simple things so they are not gonna do something complicated like that. That being said , lot of people will have gold when TBC classic comes out so most things will be way more expensive than you expect.
Man, you know nothing if you didn't even mention (dis)enchanting paired with crafting profession. If we use best case scenario for Primal farm as a benchmark (9 per hour if lucky), then bags go way up in the rating. 300-ish gold per hour with primals vs atleast 4 gold per 30 sec with bags. Considering you buy cloth off the AH. However, this is far from the best gold making route. According to my spreadsheets, ench + armorsmith yields the best profit, followed by ench + tailoring/JC. With the first pair income is at roughly 8 per minute, and it if extremely reliable. Ench + tailoring/JC yield less, but still in range of 400 per hour if you buy materials from AH. For alchemists there's also steady income at lower levels. Free Action Potions sell very well. Also ZG Living Action Potions might bring some nice profit if you actively advertise it
@@madisonadams1805 just by selling things in general you know when things are priced high and low. You would be surprised how many people there are that dont know the value of certain items and will list them lower then they typically sell for. I bought over 160 star rubies for less then their vendor price over the past 3 months... you can flip arcane crystals, as they fluctuate by 10-15g weekly, by low sell high
@@Joshua-uq9zw there has to be... i dont know what it is... But ive accidentally posted things way lower then ive wanted to before... and they are instantly bought before i can even switch and cancel... So clearly someone ahs something like that set up
@@Joshua-uq9zw yea, TSM addon, takes a little of your time and focus to set it up, but once it's done, it's all automatically, you'll swim in gold, there are some tutorials on yt on how to, check those
Sadly back in the day I paid for a level 70 warlock. I would log in sometimes and realized the Chinese leveler would level from 62-70 just buy killing the fish outside Shat just for the motes of water
Mage boosting gets nerfed. But pally only gets buffed. Pallys prob won't be able to do 300+ mob mara boosts, but a new instance with a new meta will arise.
@@xert9691 Explanation for those who don't know why Pally boosting is getting "Buffed": With TBC, the maximum damage and AOE can do is capped to a certain number of targets. So if you have 10 mobs, you do full damage, but if you have 50 mobs, you do 1/5th of the damage per mob. The total damage stays the same. Paladins get around this, because their damage comes from Thorn effects. Which are not affected by the AOE cap, since it is just multiple instances of single-target damage. So they pull the entire instance, while healing themselves, give themselves Ret aura and the Tanking blessing, with a Thorned shield and just stand there watching the mobs kill themselves. Added bonus: You can actually boost a mage INSANELY quickly by doing this, but before you bomb the mobs, have the mage leave the group, start his AOE (he probably only gets the mobs to 85%) so he gets the main share of the xp. This was fixed later in WotlK, but it should be abusable in TBC.
@@xert9691 The only restriction on Prot Pallies from a Mara boosting perspective is how many mobs they'll be able to grab, as they don't have Blizzard to pull the hydras in the water and many other areas where some form of AoE spell is needed. They also don't have blink to quickly move forward, but I'm confident that someone will find a way for Pallies to do Mara boosting and in the end, easier and far more forgiving compared to the Mage pull.
Also, do not bother with Jewelcrafting.. If you actually play or have played Classic so far then you already know how many gold sellers camp and undercut each other on a hourly basis like a bunch of hyenas that never saw meat in their entire existence and since the gems require so much deposit for the AH then selling gems at AH will be practically impossible unless you are a filthy gold seller and you list gems every 2hours for the least deposit possible being ready to remove and re list the gems whenever undercut. At least, the positive side is that some gems are locked behind reputation levels and/or dungeons so not many gold sellers will be able to get them that fast or ever since they invest the least time for the most profit possible. p.s. huge emerald for example requires 5s for 2hrs and 60s for 24hrs deposit
anything in the open world will be heavily contested. make a pally tank and boost people and farm ubrs lbrs make a few 100 a hour just by selling everything
I’m running a mage now and considering respeccing to fire/frost for the flamestrike/shatter combo since historically the initial hit of flame strike was not included in the AoE cap.
@@ivanhanson1 step one get blade of eternal darkness. Step two spec into arcane for max mana conservation and frost for max slow on blizzard. Step three control with rank one blizzard and use flame strike. Step four profit.
I believe the change that was made was a bit different. If I remember correctly the AOE would still hit all targets but the damage would be split after the first X amount of targets, possibly 5 as you mentioned. I may be wrong but I think that's how it goes.
Paladins get around this, because their damage comes from Thorn effects. Which are not affected by the AOE cap, since it is just multiple instances of single-target damage. So they pull the entire instance, while healing themselves, give themselves Ret aura and the Tanking blessing, with a Thorned shield and just stand there watching the mobs kill themselves.
Paladins get around this, because their damage comes from Thorn effects. Which are not affected by the AOE cap, since it is just multiple instances of single-target damage. So they pull the entire instance, while healing themselves, give themselves Ret aura and the Tanking blessing, with a Thorned shield and just stand there watching the mobs kill themselves.
why would you want to farm gold in the first place? After your 280% owned the amount of gold you need is negligeable. It's not like vanilla, consumables are much cheaper, you don't need much in raid and you won't use them at all in pvp.
Ohhh you just wait. GDKP raids are going to require you to be holding hundreds of thousands of gold on your character. Here in Classic, people are casually dropping 6-10k per item. You're going to need gold, and a LOT of it.
@@d0k0night raids provide more items for 25 players instead of 40. Thus you'll get gear much faster and gdkp raids will be less uselful (and require less gold).
I buy high and sell low
@Bronson Kashton Just adding to the bot chain
@Collin Darren bump that bot
So true 😂
I remember making thousands of netherweave bags back in TBC, around 10k if I recall. Not unlikely the majority eventually came across one of my bags on Frostmane EU. -Gythian
I feel like a Ferengi watching this and learning about profits
Just rewatching the next generation recently and this is an underrated comment.
Quarktajino!
Can confirm auction house flipping can be extremely lucrative in TBC although I used to slave away competing with other players and bots trying to farm Motes/Primals and doing laps around Nagrand trying to find veins to mine and would make a small income each time. My GF at the time would just sit in the AH she was JC/Alc (transmute master) and she managed early on to get the majority of JC recipes (pre Hyjal gems) and would simply look for Adamantite ore and if it was selling for a price she deemed reasonable she would buy it, prospect it and then cut the gems she got and relist them. I remember her investing 10k gold just buying ore and uncut gems and then flipping it and doubling or even tripling her money. On top of that she made plenty just transmuting primal might early on and making a fortune selling that as a lot of pre bis uses it.
dont vendor the leather, lots of ppl will need to level LW for drums
Yeah that's what I was thinking. But still need to consider supply and demand and AH profit vs vendor.
@@Toyhouze consider mailbox storage on one of the 10 alts/banks
#1 gold making will be arena boosting xD. I just imagine people spamming "Getting you 2250 arena rating for 15k gold" xD
Totally forgot about getting carried in arena for gold. Definitely amazing for gold
@@Toyhouze how can you carry someone on 2V2 ?? sorry idk shit about TBC
@@AHDDADV You do 3v3 or 5v5 carry's
depends if they keep it as elo or mmr
@@MrNickcrush mmr will just make it even more expensive, though high rating boosts will be harder with mmr.
In high population tbc servers , I always stick with farming sunken temple with skinning , the boe drops are okay , but the cloth and skin + vendor trash is consistent . You’ll find it hard too farm ANYTHING in Outland
Yeah if you're garbage at the game you'd struggle in Outland. True. True..
Great tips!
(Would be cool if you added a pic of the items you’re talking about. Just so we know what to look for but still great info)
Noted!
the clefthoof leather is what made me so much gold. farmed them as a mage and got insane money with little comp
What location did you Use? A curious former TBC player that was 13 and didnt play that much at the time , so hard to remember stuff 😂
there will ton of competition now days lol
@@kent-ingestensen5371 ya spot outside the ally base there. In Na grand. Also snake skin in shadow
Bless your content as usual
Thank you!
Another great but slow/RNG way to make gold is to vendor camp the engineering vendors in Area 52 and the Ethereal guys in Stormspire, They can sell motes and herbs for cheap, as well as potions and crafted Engineering items that normally would require motes/primal to craft such as the Khorium Power Core (khorium bar, primal fire).
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Sounds like this will be bottet 24/7
On my server morgraine it works for me
JC is the best. Living Ruby ftw. At the high, I was selling each Delicate for 250g. Flasks go for 60g-90g as most CDs are worth like Diamonds, Cloths, etc. My eng is good too but primals are 25g at most. Farming minging/herb = 250g-350g /hr. Plenty of ways to make plenty of gold. But buying cheap ore and prospecting, and JC in general makes so much more than all of the other together. I'm only missing LW and Tailoring.
nice man!
Savage fronds can sell for infinitely more than they vendor for, mostly because they cannot be vendored.
They can now 😄
You are insane leather is extremely expensive currently in classic half the server is going LW for TBC.
I actually still love the fishing and cooking dailies xD Its such a lowkey thing to do at the end of the night I its one step towards the eventual Chef title!
Hay mate, nice and informative video. Just some criticism: please put up more images of what you are refering to (as you did with the fish and cooking), at least for the less obvious things. Gets more engaging and interesting as a viewer, it gets pretty stale to just look at b-rolls for 98% of the video.
Hey man good advice I'll make sure to do that next time
#1 Will continue to be GDKP raid leading. The % cut they 'earn' is so ridiculous they end up with multiple legendary's from MC and Naxx, and are still going into BCC with over 100k gold.
Rogue chests farming (if they are not fixed that is).
Edit: I think back in the days in TBC before it got hotfixed you could easily do 300G an hour as a rogue in Mechanar, if not more. Ahhhh, that was amazing.
How do you do that & can druids do it too?
@@smoke4824 You need lockpicking mate :(
I will put it in short how the method was: you would pull the chest pack from a position where the mobs have to run to. When they are about to reach you, you would jump off the edge, vanish and lockpick the chest.
@@smoke4824 you would have to have engineering and use seaforium charges for it but that would make it less profitable.-
@@MrJigssaw1989 Or Blacksmithing
How about Black Morass trash farm? Professions needed skinning and enchanting. I used prot paladin with Figurine of the Colossus trinket (every block heals like 125hp and Warchief Kargath drops it) with some other trinket that increased block chance. I pulled spiders from one side, then the other. Killed them all and then beasts. Why? So i can loot and have time for skinning and by the time you make next pull after looting and skinning, your trinkets cooldowns are passed. You can get a lot of spider silk, leather and disenchant greens/blues.
Was thinking that while you farm Black Morass, you can also sell boost to lvl 70 there. Think it was from 68-70.
What we also did back in TBC later patches was selling Amani War Bears. Every member from the raid was paid 1000g and we invited buyer when boss came.
Also, later when Sunwell comes out, you can farm trash in Sunwell with small group for epic gems and sunmotes (sold it for like 2000g each then).
It is exactly because that the mages will no longer be able to boost that the few protection paladins will be able to ask for whatever price they want and do as many boosts as they want being able to boost from Stockades up to Stratholme almost easily with the proper gear which is not even hard to get. I mean, you have to consider that the current Classic prices will be converted into the TBC prices so the paladins will be able and will ask for so much more gold for boosting. p.s. this kind of farm so to speak that is practically relative to the realm economy is absolutely amazing
Oh there won't be a "few" protection paladins. Mark my words, day 1 of TBC you will every single boosting mage roll a Prot Pally and get that character up there ASAP. Prot Pallies will be everywhere you look. On the up side it'll mean there'll never be anyone hard up for finding a tank. But the potential downside is that boosting rates are going to drop, big time. You're not going to be able to charge a ton for boosting when there's 10+ other pallies all offering boosting for any given dungeon.
@@d0k0night Not really? Do you play Classic? 90% of the Boosters are gold sellers with very crap gear that do not invest in the game nor their character because they know that they risk to get banned eventually. So you will not see that many geared paladins. Actually, we barely see any boosters nowadays since Shadowlands came and i guess that is because the Classic gold rate plumetted with the demand being at its lowest.
Herb Ancient linchen in Slave Pens (Normal). You can reset the dungeon, and do it over and over again.
One of the reasons why Anchient linchen will be inexpensive as hell.
You can do this with every class. At lvl 70, the agro range of the mobs is low enough that you can sneak past the first pat and get all 4 nodes.
I was selling stacks of it for 25g in the first 2 weeks, now they sell for 5G a stack lol
Thanks man! You are doing great job!
I appreciate that!
im going fishing just because the good fish you get are only accessible by flying mount which makes it feel more exclusive
I remeber to pay for my epic flyer back in BC I would just chest farm mana crypts all day on my rogue. Was also ore nodes inside for a bit of extra gold as well.
i did mechanar chests, jesus i got PTSD when i read your comment. 2 weeks IRL of Mechanar fucked me up
you forgot Goldenscale Vendorfish for Fishing. vendors for 6g.
Great video. Earned a sub!
Thanks! Welcome!
leveling my first character right now in classic tbc and the gold from leather selling on the AH is very good
When your first advice is yo vendor the leather im out
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Ragveil farming for alchimist potion is good too.
Each alchimist potion = 70silver! X5 = 3g50 😁
Prospecting! Buying tons of ore and grinding them out for gems, and relisting.
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what an absolute unit...
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Just commenting and liking to get the video out 🤸♂️❤
Terocones herbalism item makes huge money in terrokar forest.
You put some items on the screen to show what they are, but not others. I wish you would be consistent in the aspect. Not trying to be a dick, just want you to do it for all items. Not all of us, including myself, know what these items are. And being a visual learner, would really appreciate you doing that. Thank you.
Learning styles are BS, there is no such thing as a visual learner. Outdated concept.
Tons of great tips!!
well well prepping too i see :P
the arcanite fishing rod is currently +35, i dont know if its going to naturally upgrade to +40 in TBC or not, either way that still makes it one of the best rods in TBC, u can catch me in zangarmarsh fishing on release day!
Live below your means, of cash in on bonus gold from quests at level 70 + daily quests!
I got my 1st 5k gold from grinding Crusader enchant in Tyr's hand.
When i started, price for enchant was about 250g i believe, latter dropped to 50g. But even though my intent to get rich by selling Crusader vaporized, soon i discovered that actual gold mine is from vendoring loot i got from killing elite mobs down there.
Being a Rogue was made it maybe a little bit easier because of the stunlock and runecloth bandages (mobs drop), i had almost no downtime, it was smooth and fast. Aprox 2 hours every day for less then a week i got my epic flying mount. This way you do not depend on other players, auction house and professions, just good old grind with very predictable outcome. J
you can do this at lv60 lol
@@GS-el8ll That's not the point
cobra scales will have a lot of competition since there are only a couple places to farm for them, I was on a low pop server back in BC and even then I was always running into others farming the same areas and the respawn isn't fast. Elemental Plateau lol yeah the only time I ever found that place to be void of someone farming was when Wrath launched.
Great video!!
Thank you!
if you have fly 280 you can farm 400-500 gph on eng+mining in Nagrand
Daily is a good way.
~150g per Day for 1h work (sometimes more, sometime less) isnt that bad. 4500g a month just from dailys, is a easy good gold making way
Cant engineers make and sell the RoflCopter flying mount ? Do that over and over ??
#2 Boosting
The AoE Damage nerf I think will make boosting take a huge hit. Not stop it, but significantly slow it down. Even at 70 things like Mara single pulls I'm guessing won't be a thing. Certainly ZG 1 pulls I can't imagine will work. Obviously you can still boost people in said dungeons but you will have to do more pulls of smaller packs and in extension take make times longer to clear the full dungeons and in extension be significantly less efficient. But perhaps you'll still be able to hit the dungeons per hour cap as you are suggesting? *shrug*
There's a lot of strong aoe gear for paladins so I think it might still be viable for them. Check out my video that drops tomorrow on this topic
Nice job man
2. Boosting is super profitable, and supper annoying, I had to install and set up an addon to get rid of the spam from boosters. Plus half of them are selling the gold for real money wink wink.
thx for video))
which specialization is better to choose for gold making?) Flasks, Elixirs, or Transmutes
Jewel crafting is probably going to be the best profession..alot of people going caster means alot more tailors..so...motes and gems will be high value..cloth made items not so much...blacksmithing will be good until t5 comes out.
BS is king with d/ench
My man you forgot to tell your viewers that if you want to flip the auction
House you nedd to have atleast 10k+ gold . I did it in vanilla and i also will do it in tbc but i am prepared with 40k gold atm .
for AH flipping you need big starting money
It only takes a week to make around 1000 gold from level 1.
I'll probably safe lvl 67-70 quests for when i reach 70. gonna run instances to get to max and then farm quests (including daylies) for the final push to 5k gold. Next netherwings dailies and mote farming just so I get my second char basic epic flying (Herbalism / Alchemy char).
Then I am pretty much set for the expo in terms of gold.
Why is it good to quest at 70
@@shroud4269 Because any XP a quest would give you is instead converted into gold if you are lvl 70.
Additionally let us consider reputation.
To get revered (And as such access to heroic dungeons) with specific factions, you need alot of reputation, which you would grind by doing dungeons.
Lets say we set reaching level 70 and doing heroics as our first goal.
If we do quests and then do dungeons at max level, then we get the reputation from quests while we are at neutral and reach friendly at lvl 70. After which we would need to grind dungeons till honored and lvl 70 dungeons till revered.
Sounds good, but now let us turn that around. If we instead save our quests till level 70 then we can do this:
Honorhold and Thrallmar reputation is gained in the first dungeon of TBC. A dungeon which does not give rep if you are at level 70, so we use that one to grind to lvl 62. Then do Slave Pens, Auchindoun dungeons etc till 67, caverns of time and lvl 68-70 dungeons to 70.
Now we still have every single quest, we are at 70, likely friendly - honored with alot of factions.
Here comes the kicker: Quests allways give the same reputation, no matter the level. So we reach Honored with the factions we want first, then do the quests. This should get us a good way to revered with some factions and alot of gold.
In short:
- We have to do dungeon grinds anyways for Reputation.
- If we do the quests first and then do the grind, then we can not do every dungeon for that grind (Because of the step between honored and revered).
- Switching Questing and dungeon grinding around, lets us save quests for honored - Revered.
- Doing so saves us time and grinding at max level.
- It also nets us between 1,5 and 2k of additional gold.
@@bass-dc9175 oh wow that does sound pretty lucrative, thanks for the good info (:
Alchemists are going to makea killing in BC classic. Who remembers the demand for Primal Might for all the top items lol
Alchemists always make tons of gold
Yep start off as transmute master then switch later into the expansion to Elixir or Potion :D
so elemental fire etc will still be pricy in tbc? how for what? same pots or something new?
still need them for a number of things like potions for leveling alchemy and those same potions aren't necessarily useless. on private servers ive seen the prices still high so demand is still there
Isn't boosting going to be nerfed as in TBC aoe dmg is nerfed when you hit 5 or more mobs?
Except that won't apply to paladins. Paladins will kill the mobs with thorns damage.
@@johnhandcock3242 what is thorns damage?
@@artemtrytiak6911 it refers to dmg taken when you attack a target.
What do you mean AoE dmg is nerfed vs 5+ mobs ? can you point me to a source for that ? Never heard of it :(
Yes cap is 10 mobs, after that almost no damage will be done. So in TBC mages aint really a good farming method, more paladin,rogue,druid & warlock.
Ichor of undeath has always sold for 1-10 silver lol. wicked claw down to 1-10 silver too a lot of these white items are from classic and arent worth anything anymore
awesome ty
You're welcome!
blizz already fixed boosting in tbc they made it where your aoe spells such as blizzard to have a damage cap
You can still boost on aoe pally
consecration is placed on the ground and thus not being affected by the AOE cap
@@denome3725 Not sure if that will apply the way you think mate. Blizzard did the same thing with flamestrike and it capped inside its target area. Hopefully I am wrong, but I think consecrate will behave the same way all other AoE does.
@@thaforseti31 It does get capped but the way Paladins get around it is they have things like Shield spike, Retribution aura and items that cause damage when they are struck on top of holy shield and consecration so they can still do massive pulls and become much better at it than mages.
So. Question or comment to the video, not sure which one. Boosting is very profitable in current Classic wow yes, the only issue that will pop up in BC will be mages got capped on their damage from Blizzard at the start or during one of the patches. Will Blizzard incorporate that as a no changes issue since there will be a lot of backlash I'm guessing? Also there will be the other big question of when the ZA patch XP squish will take effect for levels 20-60?
Nice tips, but you forgot a big one, but that's a way that very few ppl can do, guess what?
Arena boosting, pvers will pay huge amounts of money to get pvp weapons.
Very true. The 1800 rating boost. Just for the weapon.
you can only do 25 dailies every day, so be mindful of which ones you do. to maximize gold, pick the 25 dailies that give the most gold reward
Good point!
Sidenote: If you got your 5k for epic flying: Netherwing dailies are a good source of income. To get from Neutral to exalted will net you about 3000 gold, so you got most of your investment back.
@Toyhouze Won't boosting be nerfed a bit though due to the AoE cap in TBC? Do you see boosting on TBC private servers?
Yeah I forgot about that.I do think boosting will be less common with the aoe nerf! I don't see a lot of boosting at all on TBC private servers, although could be in part due to purchasable exp boosts.
@@Toyhouze Paladins get around this, because their damage comes from Thorn effects. Which are not affected by the AOE cap, since it is just multiple instances of single-target damage. So they pull the entire instance, while healing themselves, give themselves Ret aura and the Tanking blessing, with a Thorned shield and just stand there watching the mobs kill themselves.
I'll elaborate a bit on the reflection gear:
2 Items are essencial. Sporregar shield and Demon Forged breastplate.
The shield puts a dot on enemies which you block, while the Breastplate gives you a 1% chance to put a dot on enemies that will drain life. These 2 will keep you alife and account for most of your damage.
Then there are the Reflection items.
Razor Gaunlets (Dire Maul east - Final Boss):
Reflects 3 Arcane damage to anyone that hits you.
Nagelring (Blackrock Depths - Golem Lord):
Reflects 3 Arcane damage to anyone that hits you.
Felsteel Shield Spike:
Use: Attaches a Felsteel Spike to your shield that deals 26-38 damage every time you block with it.
Cloak of Flame (INCREDIBLY rare):
Deals 5 Fire damage to attackers.
Alternative: Cloak of Fire (Tailoring)
Use: Deals 5 DPS to everyone around you for 15 seconds. (2 min CD)
Essence of Pure Flame:
Deals 13 Fire damage to attackers.
Electromagnetic Gigaflux Reactivator (Gnomeregan - Final boss):
5 Damage reflect buff for 10 minutes (30 min cd, remains after you swap the helmet).
This is addition to your Paly aura, the Crystal buff from Ungoro turnins and blessing of Sanctuary (Reduces damage taken by 80, reflects 46 holy damage upon block).
All of the above deal normal damage and will allow for boosting to continue.
Have you heard about proto pal solo farm strat? I think its good, but not sure that i can make much gold like from primal air
It's not very good , too slow
@@allstargaming5270 Depends on how you do it.
Reflect tanking it is rather quick.
(Shield spike, cloak of flames, Essence of pure flame, DME gloves, BRD nagelring, Sporeggar Shield and Demon forged breastplate)
I’m making profession boost packages right now. Selling them for the cost of mats plus interest for my work
i got a warning from Blizzard back in the day i had cornered the AH with prim xmutes i had 6 transmute masters 600g a day with out doing a thing not counting procs and when they do they proc big. what got me the warning was because i had brought out everyone xmutes every day and only put 2 up it blocked everyone's professions even when they tried to sell them in chat id just buy them on a alt and it got me 1 and only 1 warning next was banned
Damn dude sound like you were next level
I feel like something is missing in that story. How does that warrant a ban?
or a warning for that matter?
@@stanleycapps4108 blocking progression coz i had locked the whole thing down i argued with them for 2 days and in the end i had to relist everything i had or get banned its coz of the way i was doing it.. EG prime xmutes were 100-130g on my server when i had it locked down i was selling them for 500g-700g each it got to 700g when i got the warning what i was doing is say if someone listed 1 for 600g and mine was 650g id delist everything buy his one out and put it at 700 gold there wasnt enough Xmutes to go around i was on a small server 500 max pop i think because enough people complained they acted. Im thinking of doing this gain in TBC Classic , i have 3 60 with with max alc already lol
on megaservers all extraction nodes will be camped with alts like black lotus
Yea, im prtty sure all good farm spots will be full during the day, and some will be full 24/7, im on a full pop server in EU and i expect all the good spots to be taken 24/7.
I hope dungeon farming will be lucrative, or else ill have to rely on mainly daily quests to make gold, which was certainly enough back in the TBC days to sustain any needs i had even as a hardcore raiding warlock, but with today's playerbase im not so sure.
Mages cannot boost in bc anymore which only leaves prot Paladins left
Yeah good point. Prot paladin is the way
*herbalism. The H is not silent.
Noted thank you. :)
Thank you for the guide... third... :-P
You're welcome! Glad you enjoyed it
For the record, I got the joke at the beginning lmao yah that story was messed up.
I sold a skinning knife on my server for 4g the other day. people are rich and lazy thanks to boosting. I hope blizz does something about it...but i doubt it.
Haha grats! Those type of sales are always fun
Well , its mos tlikely that people will get their characters for classic TBC.
Blizzard wont force people to leave their classic chars. I mean they arent doing simple things so they are not gonna do something complicated like that.
That being said , lot of people will have gold when TBC classic comes out so most things will be way more expensive than you expect.
There is a solution...gold cap!
Wait will prices be different on each realm depending on demand and supply? Wasn’t clear or mentioned
Yes that's usually how it is.
isn't mighty rage potion made using grom's blood?
Hopefully people don't all do the shuffle, that would wreak havoc on the auction house.
Live below your means in-game.
Man, you know nothing if you didn't even mention (dis)enchanting paired with crafting profession.
If we use best case scenario for Primal farm as a benchmark (9 per hour if lucky), then bags go way up in the rating. 300-ish gold per hour with primals vs atleast 4 gold per 30 sec with bags. Considering you buy cloth off the AH.
However, this is far from the best gold making route.
According to my spreadsheets, ench + armorsmith yields the best profit, followed by ench + tailoring/JC. With the first pair income is at roughly 8 per minute, and it if extremely reliable. Ench + tailoring/JC yield less, but still in range of 400 per hour if you buy materials from AH.
For alchemists there's also steady income at lower levels. Free Action Potions sell very well. Also ZG Living Action Potions might bring some nice profit if you actively advertise it
For rogues( maby druids) mana tomb chest runs are pretty fast gold makers.
I am youre moust loyal fan keep up the great work cease od youre video i can finaly be rich now
Thank you Kajtas I appreciate you!
poeple under estimate AH flipping for a gold farm... i made over 2.5k gold this week, just buying and relisting items on AH
How do you know what to buy though?
@@madisonadams1805 just by selling things in general you know when things are priced high and low. You would be surprised how many people there are that dont know the value of certain items and will list them lower then they typically sell for. I bought over 160 star rubies for less then their vendor price over the past 3 months...
you can flip arcane crystals, as they fluctuate by 10-15g weekly, by low sell high
@@cicballa is there an addon that can scan AH and buy items priced at or under a certain price ?
@@Joshua-uq9zw there has to be... i dont know what it is... But ive accidentally posted things way lower then ive wanted to before... and they are instantly bought before i can even switch and cancel... So clearly someone ahs something like that set up
@@Joshua-uq9zw yea, TSM addon, takes a little of your time and focus to set it up, but once it's done, it's all automatically, you'll swim in gold, there are some tutorials on yt on how to, check those
That how I use to make my money buying and selling
In resume if you dont have time to watch the video, play the game and you will make money.
Sadly back in the day I paid for a level 70 warlock. I would log in sometimes and realized the Chinese leveler would level from 62-70 just buy killing the fish outside Shat just for the motes of water
@Yaboy Lindus oh its gone
suddently i want 10 professions on my 2 lvl 60 LOL
Someone let this man know they nerf AOE farming in TBC.
Mage boosting gets nerfed. But pally only gets buffed. Pallys prob won't be able to do 300+ mob mara boosts, but a new instance with a new meta will arise.
@@xert9691 Explanation for those who don't know why Pally boosting is getting "Buffed":
With TBC, the maximum damage and AOE can do is capped to a certain number of targets. So if you have 10 mobs, you do full damage, but if you have 50 mobs, you do 1/5th of the damage per mob. The total damage stays the same.
Paladins get around this, because their damage comes from Thorn effects. Which are not affected by the AOE cap, since it is just multiple instances of single-target damage. So they pull the entire instance, while healing themselves, give themselves Ret aura and the Tanking blessing, with a Thorned shield and just stand there watching the mobs kill themselves. Added bonus: You can actually boost a mage INSANELY quickly by doing this, but before you bomb the mobs, have the mage leave the group, start his AOE (he probably only gets the mobs to 85%) so he gets the main share of the xp. This was fixed later in WotlK, but it should be abusable in TBC.
@@xert9691 The only restriction on Prot Pallies from a Mara boosting perspective is how many mobs they'll be able to grab, as they don't have Blizzard to pull the hydras in the water and many other areas where some form of AoE spell is needed. They also don't have blink to quickly move forward, but I'm confident that someone will find a way for Pallies to do Mara boosting and in the end, easier and far more forgiving compared to the Mage pull.
One exactly is “a pop”? A stack or per item?
Haha one item :)
Also, do not bother with Jewelcrafting.. If you actually play or have played Classic so far then you already know how many gold sellers camp and undercut each other on a hourly basis like a bunch of hyenas that never saw meat in their entire existence and since the gems require so much deposit for the AH then selling gems at AH will be practically impossible unless you are a filthy gold seller and you list gems every 2hours for the least deposit possible being ready to remove and re list the gems whenever undercut. At least, the positive side is that some gems are locked behind reputation levels and/or dungeons so not many gold sellers will be able to get them that fast or ever since they invest the least time for the most profit possible. p.s. huge emerald for example requires 5s for 2hrs and 60s for 24hrs deposit
anything in the open world will be heavily contested. make a pally tank and boost people and farm ubrs lbrs make a few 100 a hour just by selling everything
I wonder if there are some new farms inside instances, just like Vanilla had DM lashers/jump runs, ZG had aoe farm for bijous, etc.
Just play all day
How do you want to boost with mage? In TBC is aoe "cap" (not co consecration)
it will be slower, but paladin will be bis boosters
I’m running a mage now and considering respeccing to fire/frost for the flamestrike/shatter combo since historically the initial hit of flame strike was not included in the AoE cap.
@@ivanhanson1 step one get blade of eternal darkness. Step two spec into arcane for max mana conservation and frost for max slow on blizzard. Step three control with rank one blizzard and use flame strike. Step four profit.
Mate you are missing gdkp auctions and direct tokens sell when your raid group is good enough
In tbc, doesnt mage aoe only hit a maximum of 5 targets at a time? (Regarding mage boosting in tbc) or am i tripping?
you may be right about this
I believe the change that was made was a bit different. If I remember correctly the AOE would still hit all targets but the damage would be split after the first X amount of targets, possibly 5 as you mentioned. I may be wrong but I think that's how it goes.
Damage will be greatly reduced after five mobs. Also jumping doesn't hit mobs.
Paladins get around this, because their damage comes from Thorn effects. Which are not affected by the AOE cap, since it is just multiple instances of single-target damage. So they pull the entire instance, while healing themselves, give themselves Ret aura and the Tanking blessing, with a Thorned shield and just stand there watching the mobs kill themselves.
@@bass-dc9175 ah yes of course, thanks for clarifying that.
Do I need 275 in a profession to train TBC or do I need 300?
300 if I remember correctly
AoE cap will kill boosting.
quite possibly actually
Paladins get around this, because their damage comes from Thorn effects. Which are not affected by the AOE cap, since it is just multiple instances of single-target damage. So they pull the entire instance, while healing themselves, give themselves Ret aura and the Tanking blessing, with a Thorned shield and just stand there watching the mobs kill themselves.
Hey toys what is a good tbc server?
I'm on Atlantis Kharazhan and I'm enjoying it
@@Toyhouze sweet! I'm gonna make a character there thanks 👍
I may be out of the loop, but is classic TBC a definite? Thanks.
nope not yet
You forgot death-rolling. EZ Money.
why would you want to farm gold in the first place? After your 280% owned the amount of gold you need is negligeable. It's not like vanilla, consumables are much cheaper, you don't need much in raid and you won't use them at all in pvp.
.... to get the mount bro....
you will also be constantly getting upgrades which will need gems and enchants, not to mention if u have multiple specs for pve and pvp
@@m17a4y the gold provided by killing raid boss and doing bg daily is enough for that actually
Ohhh you just wait. GDKP raids are going to require you to be holding hundreds of thousands of gold on your character. Here in Classic, people are casually dropping 6-10k per item. You're going to need gold, and a LOT of it.
@@d0k0night raids provide more items for 25 players instead of 40. Thus you'll get gear much faster and gdkp raids will be less uselful (and require less gold).
noice
Raid boosting was a thing for me and a guild I was in where a guy paid us thousands to clear a raid for them and reserve pieces he wanted.
Didn't they add an AIR cap in TBC? This would severely neuter boosting.
AIR cap?
@@Toyhouze sorry, autocorrect. AOE cap
Ah yes you are right. AOEs will hit a maximum number of targets. I forgot to include that
Half of what you say won't be in the game at launch