My takeaway from all this is that the M1 models are still beasts after 4 years. Pretty awesome to see. Yes, the others pull ahead in areas, but consistently the M1 machine provided decent results if you’re not running a business where time = money. The deltas between machines wasn’t so great in nearly every task that waiting a bit of time is a bad thing. What I found intriguing was that these tests were often based on 1000 files. If I shrink that down to 100 or less, those differences really start to merge and make far less difference, and that less than 100 file batch size is more my area of amateur use for photography. Sometimes it may be only 10, but never more than 200. So in my case I think an M1 makes a ton of sense. I TRULY appreciate the work that went into this and the professionalism through which it was presented. This is the type of data that helps make informed consumers and I’m personally going to apply it to my buying decision. Thank you so much and I’m clicking both like and subscribe to keep on learning.
@@ArtIsRight Hi :) Quick question. I'm debating between springing for 36GB of RAM in the M3 Pro chip 11/14 version. If I'm getting 1TB of storage, could not only having 18GB of RAM wear the SSD? Or is it really just affecting speed?
I really like your review and analyze. All of them, because you didn't just review the product as a media, you review them in your workflow, as one of us who just trying to figure out what tool fits best for our daily work or hobby. Thank you for sharing and good luck!
Your tests are the best! Love how detailed the tests are, yet how simple and very clear the advice is. Fantastic that you also add in all the previous relevant model. It seems the base 16” M1 Pro is amazing value right now based on how it stacks up on these tests.
Very helpful as a consumer looking to switch to Mac to use Lightroom. Such high production value, well-communicated data and a thorough review! Your content is very professional, a nice breath of fresh air from anything clickbaity
@@ArtIsRight Would you recommend the M2 Max for hobby photographers? I don't have Lightroom at the moment and don't shoot a lot, but I'm shopping for a laptop that'll last several years + Lightroom and audio recording
You were recommended by an Adobe Community Expert to me as a police to get a good comparison on MacBooks and he is so right..... great easy to understand comparisons with practical usage modelling. Given me plenty to think about as I was eying the MBA M3 15" but maybe the MBP 14" needs serious consideration now... thanks
Wow! Incredible amount of useful information! The most useful video on MacBooks that I’ve seen. Two thumbs up! The presentation style is perfect. Great job!
you always make a very useful videos than those TH-cam out there. those videos you made def worth 1M followers. Thank you for putting the effort on all the videos.
Hey Art, I love your content! I bought a 16" M1 Pro 16GB RAM but I ended returning it because Lightroom would eat up a lot of ram and that's before I use Photoshop. Would you recommend I get the a 14inch M1 Max with the 24 core GPU 32GB Ram and 1TB storage for around $1700, or M1 Pro with 32GB RAM and 512 storage for $1500 or should I shell out a bit more for the base M3 Pro with 36GB RAM jsnf 512Gb storage for around $2200? I plan to keep the machine long term as I don't upgrade frequently.
For that price variation, I would go with the MAX. M1 MAX is still a respectable machine now a day. But if you can spring the extra $500 to get the latest and greatest then why not. But I would argue that M1 Max is still great
for the lightroom classic export, the 14MBP M3P result is missing in the video 12:47 while the result is avalible for the preview test. I guest it should be between 16MBP M3P and 16MBP M1M. My question is whether 14MBP M3P 12/16 18G 512G as good as 16MBP M3P 12/16 18G 512G. If not, how much difference? how much work load and how long will it take to make the 14 hit the heat wall before the 16? I like my 16MBP M2P performance but it is too heavy so I want to update to the 14MBP M3P for better performance and light weight. thanks for your video and all your work which is very helpful.
Extremely detailed review - overwhelming unfortunately - a lot of work - than You most important feature of Air is its portability - somewhat forgotten in this review. I was hoping for advice if new M3 is a acceptable choice for ocasional travel work . ( so conclusion about MBP being much better is somewhat disapointing ) IMHO 15 inch is a minimum for travel "work" but 16 Inch MBP is much heavier ( my normal computer is obviously M2 Ultra Studio :-)
Regarding applications getting slower with newer versions, and with newer versions of operating systems: this is a long running problem, but one which the computer industry loves. The fatter software becomes the more reason to ever buy newer and newer hardware.
Awesome video thank you! Question: for M3P MBPs, you tested 16MBP M3P 12/18 18G/512G vs 14MBP M3P 11/14 18G/512G and for LR tests the former is ~25% faster. I wonder - will 14MBP with similar SoC upgrade will perform the same? And what is the impact if I further upgrade to 36G memory or 1TB SSD?
Considering how cheap the refurb'ed M1 Macbook Air (in any config) have become from Apple, this is the biggest bang for the buck, IMO. As a secondary machine it's way more than enough. Even fine as primary machine for beginners.
Super quick question for Art as a fellow photographer: My experience with Macs is you can't attach an external disk drive or SD cards without risking data corruption if you don't eject them properly before shutting down or even before going in to a sleep. I've lost many photos on external drives by leaving them plugged in to my Mac and getting that warning repeatedly. If you know a workaround that will prevent data lose due to this - without the clumsiness of remembering to unplug your external drives and external memory cards every time, please let me know. Thanks!
Hmm, I have an NVMe SSD array linked to my Mac, and on occasion, it would disconnect, but I never lost my data. I feel there's more variables to your equation as to what might be casing these issues. One thing that you can do under power option is to prevent HDD from going to sleep, I know that help.
Could you please make a video comparing... the SSD upgrade in the M3 to 512 vs 16GB RAM upgrade? Am asking because this time there is a high speed internal SSDs and so the swap from SSD would be much better performing and at par with the 16GB RAM. Also the 512 SSD model often go on a discount at big retail outlets. Thks.
Very detailed as usual in those tests you do Art, kodus (and I hope you get help with that 😃) Actually, half (not to say third) of the number of tests would be enough and make the video more digestible :) As for Air M2 24GB recommendation over the Air M3 16GB: In your tests, they were kind of on a par with each other - sometimes neck and neck, and in other tests, one of them pulled ahead. Currently, I've seen they are about the same price as new, in some places M2 24 GB is even dearer. So It is difficult to say definitively which option is better. I would say that if you work with huge files the M2 24GB might have the edge, but in most other instances the M3 16GB would be better, isn't it? (also speaking more broadly, not just pure photography benchmarks)
"Thanks, Art, for your in-depth reviews - they’re always incredibly helpful! I was wondering if you’ve ever tested tethered shooting speed in Capture One with a pro-level camera, like the 45MP Canon R5 or something similar. That’s where the need for faster machines really shows, especially during live fashion shoots where clients are watching the screen and we’re shooting 10-20 RAW 45MP images every few seconds. It’d be great if you could test that scenario in one of your reviews!"
Thanks for the review! I still can’t decide which MacBook to buy… I’m thinking about following an graphic design course and need to use programs like Photoshop, Lightroom, InDesign, … I wanted to go for the MacBook Air 15” M3 with 16 gb ram and 512 gb SSD. Do you think it will be good enough? Or do I need to upgrade to the pro? Thanks!
Can you give me just a rough idea of how a MBA13 in your recommended set up would compare to a late 2016 MBP max spec? Trying to decide if it's an upgrade or if i have to go to a 14MBP
MBA 13 M3, or even the previous gen M1 or M2 would easily beat any intel Mac generation. The issue is heat and dissipation. Since Air is passively cooled, i.e., no fan, this means when the SoC gets hot, it has to throttle - aka capped the speed - frequency, so the chip would run slower, not to consumer more power, which generates heat. If you do a lot of heavy work load MBP are better.
base one can work, but 16 GB will go along way, they may not need 512 GB SSD but that is hard to say 13 or 15 is really a preference and personally I like midnight
Hows the performance of the Air in Lightroom Classic ?? An Event Photographers usage of 500-1000 photos, scrolling through them, editing, puting presets, etc .. Does it not lag ?? Or should I really go with a Pro 14 ?? The reason I'm asking is because I have a Desktop at home but I need an on the go laptop to lug around with me from house to office to coffee shop to be able to finish editing photos anytime anywhere .. I know import & exports times are faster in the Pro 14 but I can do that in my Desktop through my external ssd and just purely edit in the Air and do the export when I get home at my Desktop .. What's important is if the Air can handle editing large batch of photos without hiccups or lags ..
@@ArtIsRight Does it get hot even when just scrolling from photos to photos, presets, editing in the develop module ?? Or it only gets hot when importing & exporting ??
Do you think 14" MBP m3pro 18gb ram 1TB (but 75% full) hd and 11core CPU is suficient for editing normal DSLR size photos in photoshop and using lightroom? With some internet tabs open. Or worth upgrading to 24GB RAM and lesser cpu cores? Great analysis, thanks!
Hi Art. As always, great video. Pardon my ignorance, can a MacBook Pro M3 be color-calibrated using Benq Palette Master Ultimate, or is that exclusively for Benq monitors?
Palette Master Ultimate is for the Modern BenQ SW series only. To calibrate these XDR laptop displays, you will need Calibrite new devices, either the Display Pro HL or Display Plus HL, and you will use the device with Calibrite Profilier software. Walkthrough guide here. th-cam.com/video/PLB93k9UYWc/w-d-xo.html
That would but if you want to use i1Profilier you need to contact X-Rite and not Calibrite support to ask them for the older version of the software, if it not available on the website. I have not checked recently.
I didnt see the macbook pro base m3 8gb in there. Is it really that bad ? Lots of people crap on it and most comparisons skip over it for the 16gb version.
For pro workflow, 8GB is not optimal. In the video, I said I would test these machines with at least 16GB and up. To test the 8GB, it consume both of my time and monetary resources.
Fantastic video. Thanks! If you’re not importing/exporting hundreds of files and the megapixel count is low (my scenario), it seems that the M3 Air would be plenty for raw editing. I like the light weight and fanless aspect of the Air. My questions would be: 1) for a casual user can you setup a decent preset for a photography workflow (locked brightness, correct white point etc) as you can with the Pro displays? I just watched your video on that. 2) the M3 14 has a better battery life and a single fan. Do you think that would be relatively quiet for general use and light raw editing? I have a Fuji X100 and do some film photography. A nice screen is more important than pure power for me. It would be my general daily laptop too. Thanks 🙂
1. On the Air you can't. On the 14" MBP even with the vanilla M3, you can. 2. Most of the time you won't hear anything. Especially for what you want to use it for with your file size.
Excellent comparisons! Actually, I didn't get ahead :D I'm a pro photographer with a Mac Studio M2 MAX 32GB/2TB, which I really like. travel and fly more and more and I really want a machine that I can use to copy and start sorting pictures (weddings) and maybe start using LrC while I'm waiting at the airport or hotel. I always do the entire image processing on Mac Studio. Practically, my annual level would need it 4-6 times for works that are a bit pro use. I'm vacillating between the 13”Macbook Air M3 16GB/1TB and the 14” Macbook Pro M3 PRO 18GB/1TB
I don’t quite understand what you’re saying about capture one performance. Could you explain about the gpu ? Or what your conclusion is. Good /bad for MBA or just in general.
Capture one is bad at utilizing system resources, I have computers in that chart that have 2, 3, 4x the number of GPU cores and the speed is only marginally faster at best.
Old code-based that never got updated. Optimization cost a lot of money and does not sell the software as well as nigh shiny features and the list goes on.
I own a MacBook M2 Air as a secondary/travel/tethering computer. I can’t recommend them for heavy use. It will hit a memory wall during editing. MacBook Pro only
I don’t understand anything about computers , I’m a beginner photographer I just want a notebook where I can edit my photos I use Lightroom and Photoshop . I only have like 2 to max 4 photoshoot books per month . What would you recommend for someone like me ? 😅😊 ( I’m not an English native speaker sorry if I’m not explaining myself well )
PC is a different animal, are you custom building one, getting pre build, from big brand, from big brand with custom config, etc. Lots of variable here.
@@ArtIsRightNo I was thinking about a descktop computer 😅 see I’m lost . Right now I’m using Windows that is starting to work slow for LR and PS so its time to upgrade it . Thank you for your time !🙏🏼
I use a M2 Base MBA and for my workflow it is enough as I only do retouche or digital collage but my main work is analog so I work directly on the printed media. But of course with this machine you cannot pretend to heavy editing.Thank you for this clear and detailed review one of the best I have seen on TH-cam.
Why is the M3 Air 24GB seem to be slower compared to M3 Air 16GB? That's pretty interesting. I was using a M2 Air 8GB but I am selling that and I recently ordered an M3 Air 24GB 1TB. Should I have gone with 16GB instead? (Disclaimer: M2 Air 8GB wasn't enough for me, I was constantly using 14GB or so Swap and memory pressure was always yellow or red, hence decided to upgrade to 24GB)
The 24GB I've tested is M2. But either way 24 GB will do just fine. I don't think that you made a wrong decision there. 8 GB is not enough for most creatives.
A great video! Just subscribed to your channel! Could you help me with my buying decision? I just bought an M2 MBP 13 with 24GB RAM/1TB SSD. I wonder if getting an M3 Air with 16GB RAM/512GB SSD would be better. What I'm mostly concerned about is their performance in video editing. Thanks in advance for you consideration!
Very good comparison, thank you. Although the MBA M3 is much less capable then the MBP M3 PRO, I choosed the AIR 15" (M3, 1TB, 16GB), even if the price got so close to the MBP M3 PRO, because something that people need carefully take in count is that the AIR 15" big screen (not same quality as the PRO, but good enough) but at the same time very portable. (slim and very light). I love the mbp pro design, but I come from the intel MBP 14" and it was heavy. Then, I moved to the MBA INTEL, and I started to carry my MBA with me even if I'm not sure I was going to use it. And now it's hard take take heavy machines again. I know, the MBP 14" is light too, but as my age advance, my eyes need a bigger screen. The PRO screen offer a bteer view, but comparing both side by side at the store, the quality can not compete with a larger screen, if you have eyes strain.
So, i changed my mind again. Tanking account all advantages for the MBP M3 you pointed, and also the fact that the 120Hz would help me on large codes when I'm CODING at night (eg. SUBLIME aop is a MBP retina compatible) , and for longetivity of the PRO, I just canceled my MBA order today, and went direct to the MBP M3 PRO space black (but the silver is also so nice, love the silver one) . More over, I think when you have the chance to play around with a PRO machine, you are more open and connected to discover and develop new skills. So, today, I picked up my MBP 14" M3 PRO at the store. The screen is amazing at this first impact, and I'm happy even with been smaller than the AIR 15". Both are great machines. Next step, get a 32" monitor.
M2 has slower SSD, M3 has faster SSD but less RAM. It is a wash really, pick which one you can get at the best price. Or if they are the same go for more RAM
I am a programmer with a significant demand for memory, and I rarely encounter CPU-intensive scenarios lasting more than 10 minutes. Should I choose m3 mba with 24G, m3 mbp with 24G, m3 pro mbp with 18G, or m3 pro mbp with 36G? Looking forward to your reply.
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My takeaway from all this is that the M1 models are still beasts after 4 years. Pretty awesome to see. Yes, the others pull ahead in areas, but consistently the M1 machine provided decent results if you’re not running a business where time = money. The deltas between machines wasn’t so great in nearly every task that waiting a bit of time is a bad thing.
What I found intriguing was that these tests were often based on 1000 files. If I shrink that down to 100 or less, those differences really start to merge and make far less difference, and that less than 100 file batch size is more my area of amateur use for photography. Sometimes it may be only 10, but never more than 200. So in my case I think an M1 makes a ton of sense.
I TRULY appreciate the work that went into this and the professionalism through which it was presented. This is the type of data that helps make informed consumers and I’m personally going to apply it to my buying decision. Thank you so much and I’m clicking both like and subscribe to keep on learning.
Thank you!
This is such amazing analysis for photogs trying to make a choice. Thank you!!
My pleasure!
@@ArtIsRight Hi :) Quick question. I'm debating between springing for 36GB of RAM in the M3 Pro chip 11/14 version. If I'm getting 1TB of storage, could not only having 18GB of RAM wear the SSD? Or is it really just affecting speed?
Wear leveling will happen regardless but if you want the speed then get more RAM
@@ArtIsRight thank you!!
Thanks
Welcome
You are amazing! Glad to learn from how you look at the specs inside the machines and how they work too! Great help, thank you so much.
Thank you!
Thanks Art for the incredibly detailed review that was worth the wait!
Much appreciated!
I really like your review and analyze. All of them, because you didn't just review the product as a media, you review them in your workflow, as one of us who just trying to figure out what tool fits best for our daily work or hobby. Thank you for sharing and good luck!
I appreciate that!
Wow, so comprehensive! This is exactly the information I was looking for to make my purchasing decision. Well done!
Glad it was helpful!
13" & 15" are not the same. The thermal dissipation is greater on the 15" so it throttles less quickly. Might make a difference to some workloads.
right and I have testes both M2 and M3 and they are identical in these heavy workload. Don't know what to tell you there, been there, tested that
Your tests are the best! Love how detailed the tests are, yet how simple and very clear the advice is. Fantastic that you also add in all the previous relevant model. It seems the base 16” M1 Pro is amazing value right now based on how it stacks up on these tests.
Absolutely and thank you!
Very helpful as a consumer looking to switch to Mac to use Lightroom. Such high production value, well-communicated data and a thorough review! Your content is very professional, a nice breath of fresh air from anything clickbaity
You're very welcome!
@@ArtIsRight Would you recommend the M2 Max for hobby photographers? I don't have Lightroom at the moment and don't shoot a lot, but I'm shopping for a laptop that'll last several years + Lightroom and audio recording
I would just get a "Pro" for what you need. You can up the RAM and that would be it, I would save the money. :)
What a fantastic analysis. Crisp, clear and practical!
Thank You!
You were recommended by an Adobe Community Expert to me as a police to get a good comparison on MacBooks and he is so right..... great easy to understand comparisons with practical usage modelling. Given me plenty to think about as I was eying the MBA M3 15" but maybe the MBP 14" needs serious consideration now... thanks
Thank you so much! If you do work professionally just get the MBP, better SoC and active cooling
Wow! Incredible amount of useful information! The most useful video on MacBooks that I’ve seen. Two thumbs up!
The presentation style is perfect. Great job!
Thank You!
Worth noting that by taking 5 minutes to put thermal pads in that MBA you might actually outperform the MBP.
Acutely aware, but doing that could potentially void the warranty, and though you can, others are not as savvy.
1:49 Isn't the stock config 8gb RAM and 256gb storage? also 8 GPU cores
one man show, error happend.
you always make a very useful videos than those TH-cam out there. those videos you made def worth 1M followers. Thank you for putting the effort on all the videos.
I appreciate that!
❤❤❤❤ Thank you that is very professional information
Thank You!
Hey Art, I love your content! I bought a 16" M1 Pro 16GB RAM but I ended returning it because Lightroom would eat up a lot of ram and that's before I use Photoshop. Would you recommend I get the a 14inch M1 Max with the 24 core GPU 32GB Ram and 1TB storage for around $1700, or M1 Pro with 32GB RAM and 512 storage for $1500 or should I shell out a bit more for the base M3 Pro with 36GB RAM jsnf 512Gb storage for around $2200? I plan to keep the machine long term as I don't upgrade frequently.
For that price variation, I would go with the MAX. M1 MAX is still a respectable machine now a day. But if you can spring the extra $500 to get the latest and greatest then why not. But I would argue that M1 Max is still great
Thank you very much for your evaluation. I really like this comprehensive performance comparison, which can cover all fields.
You are welcome!
The review I was waiting for since MBA M3 has been released!
Thank you!
for the lightroom classic export, the 14MBP M3P result is missing in the video 12:47 while the result is avalible for the preview test. I guest it should be between 16MBP M3P and 16MBP M1M. My question is whether 14MBP M3P 12/16 18G 512G as good as 16MBP M3P 12/16 18G 512G. If not, how much difference? how much work load and how long will it take to make the 14 hit the heat wall before the 16? I like my 16MBP M2P performance but it is too heavy so I want to update to the 14MBP M3P for better performance and light weight. thanks for your video and all your work which is very helpful.
I have to look at the data. However, I made a series of videos comparing those. I would recommend that you have a look at those previous ones as well.
@@ArtIsRight which one do you recommend? I am trying to find one about the heat wall but with no luck. thanks a lot for your quick reply. 👍
Really appriciate your idea and effort
Thanks a lot
Grat Test :-) I should have watched it before
Thanks
Extremely detailed review - overwhelming unfortunately - a lot of work - than You
most important feature of Air is its portability - somewhat forgotten in this review.
I was hoping for advice if new M3 is a acceptable choice for ocasional travel work .
( so conclusion about MBP being much better is somewhat disapointing )
IMHO 15 inch is a minimum for travel "work" but 16 Inch MBP is much heavier
( my normal computer is obviously M2 Ultra Studio :-)
I need power when I travel as much as at the studio. Each to their own on the workflow.
Regarding applications getting slower with newer versions, and with newer versions of operating systems: this is a long running problem, but one which the computer industry loves. The fatter software becomes the more reason to ever buy newer and newer hardware.
I know, it is just disappointing, particularly with the Ultra SoC. Totally with you
Awesome video thank you! Question: for M3P MBPs, you tested 16MBP M3P 12/18 18G/512G vs 14MBP M3P 11/14 18G/512G and for LR tests the former is ~25% faster. I wonder - will 14MBP with similar SoC upgrade will perform the same? And what is the impact if I further upgrade to 36G memory or 1TB SSD?
SSD not so much RAM on larger files that uses RAM yes and SoC small at best.th-cam.com/video/PUst8pLnROs/w-d-xo.html
Mac studios are great values hope M3 studios get released soon and push prices down further
Totally agree!
Very informative and useful - thanks.
You're welcome!
Now that lightroom has the Denoise Ai function. Does m1 could work fast ?
yes, Pro and Max are better.
Considering how cheap the refurb'ed M1 Macbook Air (in any config) have become from Apple, this is the biggest bang for the buck, IMO. As a secondary machine it's way more than enough. Even fine as primary machine for beginners.
Totally!
@geraxhowhere post link 😅
Apple doesn’t sell Mac 1 anymore nor support them nor will there be any updates available moving forward
@geraxhoyeah with 8gb ram and your stuck and effed
Loved that. Great information and presented well.
Thank you!
Super quick question for Art as a fellow photographer: My experience with Macs is you can't attach an external disk drive or SD cards without risking data corruption if you don't eject them properly before shutting down or even before going in to a sleep. I've lost many photos on external drives by leaving them plugged in to my Mac and getting that warning repeatedly. If you know a workaround that will prevent data lose due to this - without the clumsiness of remembering to unplug your external drives and external memory cards every time, please let me know. Thanks!
Hmm, I have an NVMe SSD array linked to my Mac, and on occasion, it would disconnect, but I never lost my data. I feel there's more variables to your equation as to what might be casing these issues. One thing that you can do under power option is to prevent HDD from going to sleep, I know that help.
This sounds strange, I have never lost data this way!
Good technical review! Have a question. Do you think the Pro m3 with 8gb would lack, compared to the Air M3 16gb?
one machine would get capped by RAM with an active fan. The other would get capped by thermo. Workflow and need are going to be key at this point.
Could you please make a video comparing... the SSD upgrade in the M3 to 512 vs 16GB RAM upgrade? Am asking because this time there is a high speed internal SSDs and so the swap from SSD would be much better performing and at par with the 16GB RAM. Also the 512 SSD model often go on a discount at big retail outlets. Thks.
RAM always comes first, no matter how fast the SSD is. I'll consider this test....
Very detailed as usual in those tests you do Art, kodus (and I hope you get help with that 😃)
Actually, half (not to say third) of the number of tests would be enough and make the video more digestible :)
As for Air M2 24GB recommendation over the Air M3 16GB:
In your tests, they were kind of on a par with each other - sometimes neck and neck, and in other tests, one of them pulled ahead.
Currently, I've seen they are about the same price as new, in some places M2 24 GB is even dearer.
So It is difficult to say definitively which option is better.
I would say that if you work with huge files the M2 24GB might have the edge,
but in most other instances the M3 16GB would be better, isn't it?
(also speaking more broadly, not just pure photography benchmarks)
Broadly, I would still argue at M2 24GB is still a great deal as of now
"Thanks, Art, for your in-depth reviews - they’re always incredibly helpful! I was wondering if you’ve ever tested tethered shooting speed in Capture One with a pro-level camera, like the 45MP Canon R5 or something similar. That’s where the need for faster machines really shows, especially during live fashion shoots where clients are watching the screen and we’re shooting 10-20 RAW 45MP images every few seconds. It’d be great if you could test that scenario in one of your reviews!"
You're Welcome!
@@ArtIsRightso will you be reviewing tethered shooting speed on this machine?
Thanks Art, this was super helpful for my research. I am still debating on the Pro and Max chip. Or do I wait for the m3 Ultra??
Ultra will be desktop only, and there's a chance that Apple might skip M3 Ultra all together in favor of M4 Ultra
Why is Lightroom’s ai denoise not working on my new MacBook M3? Can you help me?
contact your local adobe support
Thanks for the review! I still can’t decide which MacBook to buy… I’m thinking about following an graphic design course and need to use programs like Photoshop, Lightroom, InDesign, … I wanted to go for the MacBook Air 15” M3 with 16 gb ram and 512 gb SSD. Do you think it will be good enough? Or do I need to upgrade to the pro?
Thanks!
For starting out yes, if you are not working as a full time pro totally, if you are, save your self the time and just get the Pro or MAX SoC
Can you give me just a rough idea of how a MBA13 in your recommended set up would compare to a late 2016 MBP max spec? Trying to decide if it's an upgrade or if i have to go to a 14MBP
MBA 13 M3, or even the previous gen M1 or M2 would easily beat any intel Mac generation. The issue is heat and dissipation. Since Air is passively cooled, i.e., no fan, this means when the SoC gets hot, it has to throttle - aka capped the speed - frequency, so the chip would run slower, not to consumer more power, which generates heat. If you do a lot of heavy work load MBP are better.
Which spec M3 Air do you recommend for students aged 15-18? Display size and hardware specs? Which is your fav colour ?
base one can work, but 16 GB will go along way, they may not need 512 GB SSD but that is hard to say 13 or 15 is really a preference and personally I like midnight
Hows the performance of the Air in Lightroom Classic ?? An Event Photographers usage of 500-1000 photos, scrolling through them, editing, puting presets, etc .. Does it not lag ?? Or should I really go with a Pro 14 ?? The reason I'm asking is because I have a Desktop at home but I need an on the go laptop to lug around with me from house to office to coffee shop to be able to finish editing photos anytime anywhere .. I know import & exports times are faster in the Pro 14 but I can do that in my Desktop through my external ssd and just purely edit in the Air and do the export when I get home at my Desktop .. What's important is if the Air can handle editing large batch of photos without hiccups or lags ..
I can handle it but slower, if it gets hot, there's no way to actively let you steam.
@@ArtIsRight Does it get hot even when just scrolling from photos to photos, presets, editing in the develop module ?? Or it only gets hot when importing & exporting ??
Not so much but using the Dev module somewhat and importing and exporting will get hit hard with heat
@@ArtIsRight Is it because the Dev Module uses the GPU Cores which causes heat ??
This vid should have 1 million views
Thank you
Do you think 14" MBP m3pro 18gb ram 1TB (but 75% full) hd and 11core CPU is suficient for editing normal DSLR size photos in photoshop and using lightroom? With some internet tabs open. Or worth upgrading to 24GB RAM and lesser cpu cores? Great analysis, thanks!
If this is your only machine I would get the bump, Adobe software uses a lot of RAM.
@@ArtIsRight thanks!
Hi Art. As always, great video. Pardon my ignorance, can a MacBook Pro M3 be color-calibrated using Benq Palette Master Ultimate, or is that exclusively for Benq monitors?
Palette Master Ultimate is for the Modern BenQ SW series only. To calibrate these XDR laptop displays, you will need Calibrite new devices, either the Display Pro HL or Display Plus HL, and you will use the device with Calibrite Profilier software. Walkthrough guide here. th-cam.com/video/PLB93k9UYWc/w-d-xo.html
@@ArtIsRight Thank you, Art. That's what I thought. I have X-Rite i1 Display Pro and i1Profiler software, would that do?
That would but if you want to use i1Profilier you need to contact X-Rite and not Calibrite support to ask them for the older version of the software, if it not available on the website. I have not checked recently.
I didnt see the macbook pro base m3 8gb in there. Is it really that bad ? Lots of people crap on it and most comparisons skip over it for the 16gb version.
For pro workflow, 8GB is not optimal. In the video, I said I would test these machines with at least 16GB and up. To test the 8GB, it consume both of my time and monetary resources.
Fantastic video. Thanks!
If you’re not importing/exporting hundreds of files and the megapixel count is low (my scenario), it seems that the M3 Air would be plenty for raw editing.
I like the light weight and fanless aspect of the Air. My questions would be:
1) for a casual user can you setup a decent preset for a photography workflow (locked brightness, correct white point etc) as you can with the Pro displays? I just watched your video on that.
2) the M3 14 has a better battery life and a single fan. Do you think that would be relatively quiet for general use and light raw editing?
I have a Fuji X100 and do some film photography. A nice screen is more important than pure power for me. It would be my general daily laptop too.
Thanks 🙂
1. On the Air you can't. On the 14" MBP even with the vanilla M3, you can.
2. Most of the time you won't hear anything. Especially for what you want to use it for with your file size.
@@ArtIsRight thank you 🙂
Excellent comparisons! Actually, I didn't get ahead :D I'm a pro photographer with a Mac Studio M2 MAX 32GB/2TB, which I really like. travel and fly more and more and I really want a machine that I can use to copy and start sorting pictures (weddings) and maybe start using LrC while I'm waiting at the airport or hotel. I always do the entire image processing on Mac Studio. Practically, my annual level would need it 4-6 times for works that are a bit pro use. I'm vacillating between the 13”Macbook Air M3 16GB/1TB and the 14” Macbook Pro M3 PRO 18GB/1TB
either one will do personally I'll choose MBP any day
I don’t quite understand what you’re saying about capture one performance. Could you explain about the gpu ? Or what your conclusion is. Good /bad for MBA or just in general.
Capture one is bad at utilizing system resources, I have computers in that chart that have 2, 3, 4x the number of GPU cores and the speed is only marginally faster at best.
@@ArtIsRight ok. Don’t know why that would be, but thanks. I appreciate your help.
Old code-based that never got updated. Optimization cost a lot of money and does not sell the software as well as nigh shiny features and the list goes on.
So right at the start of the video he says he's comparing M3 vs M2. But video text says M3 Air vs M3 MBP?
He is answering now; both data sets are in there; what is the issue? They are all getting compared.
What M3 MacBook Pro would you recommend coming from the M1 MBP?
depending on your workflow, what you do, will be doing with it and budget
@@ArtIsRight Mostly photo editing with Lightroom and perhaps some video…and well done on your videos!11
Great video. I literally picked up a refurbed M2 air as 24/512 setup. I’m not a professional but do photography. Appears fast enough for me.
For other tasks, yes it is a fine machine. For pros photo, not so much.
As opposed to figuratively? 😂
I own a MacBook M2 Air as a secondary/travel/tethering computer. I can’t recommend them for heavy use. It will hit a memory wall during editing. MacBook Pro only
Totally!
I don’t understand anything about computers , I’m a beginner photographer I just want a notebook where I can edit my photos I use Lightroom and Photoshop . I only have like 2 to max 4 photoshoot books per month . What would you recommend for someone like me ? 😅😊 ( I’m not an English native speaker sorry if I’m not explaining myself well )
This will do just fine. In your situation buy what you can afford. Any one of them will work well for what you need.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you so much. What about PC ‘s ?
PC is a different animal, are you custom building one, getting pre build, from big brand, from big brand with custom config, etc. Lots of variable here.
@@ArtIsRightNo I was thinking about a descktop computer 😅 see I’m lost . Right now I’m using Windows that is starting to work slow for LR and PS so its time to upgrade it . Thank you for your time !🙏🏼
I use a M2 Base MBA and for my workflow it is enough as I only do retouche or digital collage but my main work is analog so I work directly on the printed media. But of course with this machine you cannot pretend to heavy editing.Thank you for this clear and detailed review one of the best I have seen on TH-cam.
Thanks for sharing!
Why is the M3 Air 24GB seem to be slower compared to M3 Air 16GB? That's pretty interesting. I was using a M2 Air 8GB but I am selling that and I recently ordered an M3 Air 24GB 1TB. Should I have gone with 16GB instead? (Disclaimer: M2 Air 8GB wasn't enough for me, I was constantly using 14GB or so Swap and memory pressure was always yellow or red, hence decided to upgrade to 24GB)
The 24GB I've tested is M2. But either way 24 GB will do just fine. I don't think that you made a wrong decision there. 8 GB is not enough for most creatives.
A great video! Just subscribed to your channel! Could you help me with my buying decision? I just bought an M2 MBP 13 with 24GB RAM/1TB SSD. I wonder if getting an M3 Air with 16GB RAM/512GB SSD would be better. What I'm mostly concerned about is their performance in video editing. Thanks in advance for you consideration!
Video editing performance will mostly be identical
@@ArtIsRight Thanks for replying! Very helpful!
Very good comparison, thank you. Although the MBA M3 is much less capable then the MBP M3 PRO, I choosed the AIR 15" (M3, 1TB, 16GB), even if the price got so close to the MBP M3 PRO, because something that people need carefully take in count is that the AIR 15" big screen (not same quality as the PRO, but good enough) but at the same time very portable. (slim and very light). I love the mbp pro design, but I come from the intel MBP 14" and it was heavy. Then, I moved to the MBA INTEL, and I started to carry my MBA with me even if I'm not sure I was going to use it. And now it's hard take take heavy machines again. I know, the MBP 14" is light too, but as my age advance, my eyes need a bigger screen. The PRO screen offer a bteer view, but comparing both side by side at the store, the quality can not compete with a larger screen, if you have eyes strain.
Thanks
So, i changed my mind again. Tanking account all advantages for the MBP M3 you pointed, and also the fact that the 120Hz would help me on large codes when I'm CODING at night (eg. SUBLIME aop is a MBP retina compatible) , and for longetivity of the PRO, I just canceled my MBA order today, and went direct to the MBP M3 PRO space black (but the silver is also so nice, love the silver one) . More over, I think when you have the chance to play around with a PRO machine, you are more open and connected to discover and develop new skills. So, today, I picked up my MBP 14" M3 PRO at the store. The screen is amazing at this first impact, and I'm happy even with been smaller than the AIR 15". Both are great machines. Next step, get a 32" monitor.
Nice!
What should I choose 16 gb 256 gb m2 air vs 8 gb 256 gb m3 air
M2 has slower SSD, M3 has faster SSD but less RAM. It is a wash really, pick which one you can get at the best price. Or if they are the same go for more RAM
wow thanks
Most welcome
I am a programmer with a significant demand for memory, and I rarely encounter CPU-intensive scenarios lasting more than 10 minutes. Should I choose m3 mba with 24G, m3 mbp with 24G, m3 pro mbp with 18G, or m3 pro mbp with 36G? Looking forward to your reply.
MBP 36GB if you need it, get it
Got the M3 15air 16gb. Very quiet operation on LR and PS.
No fan!