Installing a rapid shut down switch on EG4 6000xp and Power pro battery.

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  • In this video I describe how to install a rapid shut down button. This will apply to battery models eg4 LL-v2 and above. Remember, the switch needs to operate on “normally open”. So whatever switch you choose needs to have that option.
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ความคิดเห็น • 31

  • @EastTexasHomestead
    @EastTexasHomestead 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Somehow I missed that the 6000 XP had this option. thanks for the info, Gavin.

  • @donaldhoudek2889
    @donaldhoudek2889 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If and when this goes code, you will more than likely have to put a "Rapid Shutdown Switch" next to the main Electrical service panel, along with a Solar "Emergency Cut Off" switch. I would probably run them in now and connect them in parallel at the 6000XP terminal. Best bet would be to get (2) "N/O" (Normally open) BIG RED button switches. I take it that the system will automatically shutdown the Solar prior to the batteries as this is the normal shutdown procedure for inverter shut down.

    • @GavinStoneDIY
      @GavinStoneDIY  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very good points

  • @diySolarPowerFunWithRay
    @diySolarPowerFunWithRay 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool. Thanks for posting this!

    • @GavinStoneDIY
      @GavinStoneDIY  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching

  • @joetripp123
    @joetripp123 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don't have one yet but I plan on putting one by my meter outside
    (labeled for first responders) and one by the panels. I'll just wire them off the same set of wires since both are fairly close to each other.

  • @Just_An_Idea_For_Consideration
    @Just_An_Idea_For_Consideration 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great info!
    thx

  • @tjmooney4181
    @tjmooney4181 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks, i wish i had this video 6 months ago when i installed mine to save a few back and forth calls with sig solar haha they made me runanother set from battery to switch which made everything not work so i left it like you show here :)

    • @GavinStoneDIY
      @GavinStoneDIY  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah I expected it to be a little harder to honestly.
      I think going forward most manufacturers will have to have something like this to shut the entire system down.

    • @tjmooney4181
      @tjmooney4181 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When I installed mine about 6 months ago like you did here, only the inverter shut down so they told me run a seperate 2 wire set to the battery port using 3 and 6 in the pinout but no matter how I connected both sets to the shutdown switch everything shutdown so I left the battery set disconnected, maybe a firmware update is needed?

    • @chuckyaunk6040
      @chuckyaunk6040 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I just installed the rapid shutdown switch. It does trip the wall mount battery breaker but not the inverter itself, is it supposed to actually shut off the inverter as well?

    • @tjmooney4181
      @tjmooney4181 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe the firmware changed, only my load output breaker would trip when I hit the button. But that was a few months ago and I haven't tried since

    • @CYaunk
      @CYaunk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tjmooney4181 I never checked that breaker to see if it had tripped. Will do that, thanks.

  • @easttexascowboy257
    @easttexascowboy257 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another good video. Thanks! Have you installed an external RSD on your 18KPV? When I upgrade I'm absolutely going to have an external on the outside of the garage for emergency responders, as well as for me, of course. Once I've got it all set up I'm thinking about inviting our VFD out to take a look at it and see how it works, where it's located and labeled, etc. I mentioned this to one of them a while back and he was very receptive. As with a lot of rural volunteer departments, they haven't had a lot (or any) experience responding to a fire where solar is involved. It never hurts to support those folks and I do, but making them familiar with your personal setup could be a good thing.

    • @GavinStoneDIY
      @GavinStoneDIY  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I haven’t installed one yet on the 18kpv. But that’s my plan.
      I like your plan. This is honestly one of those options you hope to never have to use. But you’ll be extremely grateful if you need to.

  • @jamesayoub357
    @jamesayoub357 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This seems like a really bad design oversight on the 6000XP. Safety switches are supposed to be normally closed. It should not be normally open. Think of this scenario, say the wire gets compromised over time and has a internal break. When there is a emergency and you push the button, the broken wire keeps the invertor from seeing the button press and the red button fails to do its job. If it was a NC switch (as it should be) when the wire gets compromised the discontinuity will act as a button press and trip the RSD circuit.

    • @GavinStoneDIY
      @GavinStoneDIY  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah I was just talking about this with another person. There may be reasons that I’m not aware that it’s designed this way. Whether it’s hardware or
      firmware related I’m not sure. 🤷🏼‍♂️
      It does accomplish what’s needed. In fact, as far as I know the EG4 batteries are the only ones capable of this.

    • @nathan-gc1mh
      @nathan-gc1mh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's designed to fail open. It's supposed to be normally open

  • @niallparker3655
    @niallparker3655 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wired mine backwards as well, the documentation is unclear, one part says NC is needed but your tests demonstrate NO is what is needed ... Thanks !

    • @GavinStoneDIY
      @GavinStoneDIY  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah I just never really learned much about relays till this point. Between that and the chargeveter I gained some new knowledge. Either way I guess it was an easy fix.
      Glad the video was helpful!

    • @niallparker3655
      @niallparker3655 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@GavinStoneDIY NC for an Estop is probably more standard, makes sure the system shuts down safely if a wire breaks (using NO as the 6000XP does means you won't know a rat chewed your cable until you try a panic stop). EG4 just needs to sort their documentation ! That and the EG4 battery needs to be set as LUX inverter protocol despite there being an EG4 option on the menu ... fortunately tech support was helpful :)

  • @Dwain3084
    @Dwain3084 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did you test the other 2 terminals on the switch? A lot of them one side is normally open the other side is normally closed.

    • @GavinStoneDIY
      @GavinStoneDIY  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah it’s spring activated. Both sides are normally closed. But you’re correct, in most cases you’d have normally open normally closed on opposite sides.

  • @CYaunk
    @CYaunk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just installed the rapid shutdown switch. It does trip the wall mount battery breaker but not the inverter itself, is it supposed to actually shut off the inverter as well?

    • @GavinStoneDIY
      @GavinStoneDIY  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you have PV optimizers hooked up? If not, it could be your solar is still supplying power to the inverter.

    • @stevenfontz9022
      @stevenfontz9022 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GavinStoneDIY I am wondering the same thing. How would this one switch activate the rapid shut-down at the panel level, (Tigo models), or would that be a separate device?

    • @GavinStoneDIY
      @GavinStoneDIY  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stevenfontz9022 yes with tigo optimizers set up you’d have a complete disconnect.

  • @_xyzyz_
    @_xyzyz_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Too bad they don’t do it like interlock on garage doors. They have a wire that has to be connected to operate the equipment and if any point in the wire chain, it breaks open it causes the interlock to disable operation. That way you could have a switch by the door and in the garage and any place else you wanted, but they all have to be normal closed like you bought.
    Garage door uses other things in chain like safety beams and pressure pads but easier to run a single wire unlike the other comment here about needing to run a pair of wires from multiple switch locations in the future

    • @GavinStoneDIY
      @GavinStoneDIY  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah that’s true. And if the line is ever broken the relay is activated.