Armor is one the most overrated merchandise in csgo kids. A smg or rifle without armor makes you a much bigger trouble to enemy than armor + pistol. An eco with smg only is always better than deagle+armor eco. If ure good with scope, and have to chose between aug/krieg and famas/galil + armor - go with aug/krieg. Don't let youtube to brainwash you with all those mainstream metas.
Whole Cs go logic is scam. Every match is rigged. They have cleverly created an algorithm to make the game go interestingly. The strong players are rigged to get Cs go'd everytime so the rest have a chance. But there's a limit to being Cs go'd and its set high enough so nobody figures out the scam.
I still like the Quake armour system. It absorbs 2/3 of all damage, and 1 HP absorbed means 1 AP lost. Very simple. And yet controlling the armour is one of the most central aspects of strong Quake gameplay. Granted the fun part is not actually how armour works (it's pretty simple, at least in Quake 3), but how it influences the strategy and map control. I mean earlier Quake games had more complicated armour systems and it made only a small difference to how you play.
Slight error, but at 6:12 you say the M4A1 and AK47 take away 22% and 15% respectively instead of 22 points and 15 points (11% and 9%) however you’re graphic is correct, it’s just the voice over
but those should be the percentages right? For m4 calculating: 100 / 0.7 x (1-0.7) / 2 = 0.214 = 21.4% and ak : 100 / 0.775 x (1-0.775) / 2 = 0.145 = 14.5% Or did miss something
Back in CS:Source times, there was a rumour, that the helmet only protects you from a single bullet. So if I got shot in the head but survived the round I always rebought.
The Kevlar and the Helmet is still logic: we buy them but where are they? They only showed up in Dangerzone, Both of them must also showed up In Wingman, Casual, Deathmatch, Arms race and evem the Matchmaking
8:06 Guess what? Real life vests also aren't completely bulletproof. Energy of a bullet has to go somewhere and if it hits you, you may have broken ribs. So they made CS:GO armor right.
Not "right". "Realistic" is a better word. Imo the armour system becomes "right" when it is interesting and intuitive, not when somebody can hit you once such so you will die from internal bleeding. CS:GO is a competitive shooter, not a simulation. Edit: corrected factual error.
The vest itself would be "right" if it didn't cover your arms, and if the helmet's health pool wasn't shared with the chest armor's. It also makes 0 sense that the SG552 has higher penetration than the AWP. Same goes for the Deagle and Revolver. Is it somewhat accurate? Yeah, sure. But nowhere near to realism. Armor also doesn't reduce your movement which I bet you is something to take into consideration if you really want to make it "right". But no... Not even a slight slow-down. The armor is not right, nor realistic, it's just done in a way that won't automatically make the team with more money have an unfair advantage. But if you wanna compare it to other games, such as the old CoDs and such, then yeah... It is more realistic. Just remember to avoid mentions about games such as Insurgency
I would only argue the "armor = percentage of health against damage" idea would be okay to use if it is within context, like how swords bounce off a knight's heavy armor but blunt weapons like maces and clubs do just fine in crushing the person inside. Maybe some armor in modern-era games could do something similar based on the weapons they're up against, like small arms fire vs rifle fire and so on. One game that takes the medieval approach really well is Exanima, which is a weird physics-based combat game that's really fun and takes stuff like armor and weapon type into a lot of consideration
I find Arma3 s armor system quite good. The armor only protects when it's actually hit, and depending on the gun the damage varies from incredibly minor (plates vs pistol) to the same as without armor (7.62 and up versus a light police vest). Armor damage is not included in stock arma as it does not REALLY apply inside a combat situation.
To put it simple: -Don't buy a helmet -Buy a vest when you have 40% or less of armor remaining in mid game or end game rounds (All the time if you have enough money to buy a house) -Counter Strike will either way make you lose it no matter what. -If you have a good aim, and a loosened bolt in your head, then it is not entirely necessary to buy a vest
I never rebuy armour but recently i was in a faceit match and i was at 3 armour left, repurchased kevlar and saved 350$, because having max money from not dying was vital to have those 350$
I started watching your Videos actively when I stopped playing actively. Every Video is Like a "aaaaah thats why" Moment for all the Times I was raging and blamed the Game to be buggy
The funny thing about armor is that in real life, ceramic plates are designed to block several bullets (Usually anywhere between 6-10) from most assault rifles. And a much larger number of bullets from smaller arms! You might get a bruise but the bullet would have been completely stopped if it hit the plate. Even after it breaks it still offers protection, as the bullet might still hit the parts of it that didnt break as much. So armor in real life IS like what you described at the end of the video. it blocks several hits COMPLETELY before breaking. (Though even after it 'breaks' it still has a chance at providing protection)
It actually makes sense to aim low at the point where the stomach meets the legs in many scenarios. Rationale: The hitboxes here are both bigger and give more damage. The stomach is a 1.25 x multiplier and the legs are unprotected by armor which on average is as effective as the 1.25x multiplier.
One game that makes armour extremely interesting is the physics-based dungeon crawler Exanima. It has probably the best armour mechanics I've seen in any melee combat game.
Woah I never knew that some aim punch remained when I got shot in chest with kevlar. Would explain some CS:GO'd moments where I swear I was on the top of the head
I feel like both systems for armor could work in games, mainly medieval with both at once. It wouldn't be too far off from reality to say that weaker armors like leather would only reduce damage taken. But heavy armors such as chain mails and iron plating would negate damage fully until they've taken enough damage to the point where now attacks go through the armor
I think its still worth buying a helmet on CT side because theres no guarantee the enemy is using rifles. especially in lower ranks where SMGs are very prevalent
A shot that goes through a wall has lower armor penetration? My perception is that yes, it has. At least when I get shot through double doors with an AK-47, the damage seems to kinda split more evenly between HP and Armor, but I never stopped to make the calculations because, well, I'm being shot at. This could change armor purchase decision depending on position held.
In doom armor determines damage absorption instead of the weapon you use. Different color armors give you different damage absorption. The helmets don't effect damage absorbed they just add points to your armor and the absorption stays to whatever it was before. It's cool to see how a mechanic exists in so many different ways across a lot of games.
@3kliksphilip Look at how damage threshold works in New Vegas for how armor should be done in video games. If you have 10 DT, a 10 damage shot will be 85% less effective, if you take 11, a threshold is crossed and you do not receive the benefit. It shows you in the hud when and when not the threshold is being crossed.
I have legit 3,000 hours on CS:GO and over 900 won competitive matches, and never in my life have i survived for so long that my armor completely worn out
Fact: In CSS, a Kevlar and Helm set might save you from the Bomb's damage. I got detonated on 1 room away from the bomb in Aztec and the only damage I took from HP was 2, and the damage Kevlar and Helmet got was 50+
I'm pretty sure in the past when your armor completely depleted, your helmet wouldn't disappear so you could rebuy only the vest for 650 and you would still have your helmet with you
I play with my IRL friends now and again, who play a lot less and subsequently are much lower ranks. I sit and silently weep as they buy helmets against T side rifle rounds. The AK goes rata-tat-tat. 😭
Just a reminder that almost non of this matters in your average silver or gold nova game because half the time the other team doesn’t buy together so one dude might be on a glock but two people have AWPs or everyone buys P90s so not buying helmets because the T side SHOULD have AKs doesn’t work.
i want headshot sounds to be different, so you know if they bought helmet or not. Sure memorizing their economy can help, but during league matches, it would be a "nice to know" feature if the enemy bought helmet or just armor.
Ah, the classic paying-attention-actually-confuses-you-more gambit
Gets me every time
Yeah we are lol
Armor is one the most overrated merchandise in csgo kids. A smg or rifle without armor makes you a much bigger trouble to enemy than armor + pistol. An eco with smg only is always better than deagle+armor eco. If ure good with scope, and have to chose between aug/krieg and famas/galil + armor - go with aug/krieg. Don't let youtube to brainwash you with all those mainstream metas.
@@bladerunner4425 not really, it depends on how good you are
@@bladerunner4425 or what you are trying to do
7:38 the sound of profit
Profitn't
738loss :^)
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thank mr kliksphilip
how is your league going?
thanks mr soup
hello there soup
Who are you
Go back to blazing trails Sir
That case unboxing millionaire reference had me breathing heavily out of my nose. Its the little things that make your vids so great, thx clickyboio
Your comment had me breathing heavily out of my nose. thanks
Yes when I saw that I laughed out loud
I thought I'll be the only one noticing. :D It was such a nice feel, getting the reference.
it triggered in my brain too and also that skyrim clip got me nostalgic
9mm Glock: 47%
9mm Tec-9: 90.6%
Sure
I think this "logic" is a scam. My silver instincts tell me to rebuy armor every round or not to buy it at all.
No truer words have been utttered.
Whole Cs go logic is scam. Every match is rigged. They have cleverly created an algorithm to make the game go interestingly. The strong players are rigged to get Cs go'd everytime so the rest have a chance. But there's a limit to being Cs go'd and its set high enough so nobody figures out the scam.
@@adiadiadi333 lol no
@@adiadiadi333 ok tinfoil hat man
@@adiadiadi333 I'm worried for the 6 people who liked your comment.
7:38 Triggered something inside of me emotionally. I NEED MORE
agreed
random number profit time
3kliksphilips has covertly conditioned us with a Pavlovian response!
same
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oh wait ... wrong video!
Valve will radically change the armor system now that you've made this video
why?
@@yourfuturewife- because Valve finally understood how it actually works
@@ryujytryagain It shouldn't be changed
Armor worked like this for ages lol,just becuase a video is here doesnt mean It wont be changed
@@Ultra289 r/woosh
You're forgetting the insane importance of armor in wallbangs, it makes such a different with helmet etc in different scenarios.
In my time playing CS:GO, I've never gotten to the point when I have completely depleted my body armor
It happens more when you survive a couple rounds and have take damage on some of those rounds
I still like the Quake armour system. It absorbs 2/3 of all damage, and 1 HP absorbed means 1 AP lost. Very simple. And yet controlling the armour is one of the most central aspects of strong Quake gameplay.
Granted the fun part is not actually how armour works (it's pretty simple, at least in Quake 3), but how it influences the strategy and map control. I mean earlier Quake games had more complicated armour systems and it made only a small difference to how you play.
7:38 ... you got me there. Omg you conditioned me to get into a good mood just with that song.
7:38 nice inter-series reference there, Philip
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I've heard so many times than 50 armor left will only be 50% effective. Thanks for making this video, I will sure be sharing it with my teammates.
1:25 when she wants you to have a good time, but is bad with her teeth
underrated comment
Slight error, but at 6:12 you say the M4A1 and AK47 take away 22% and 15% respectively instead of 22 points and 15 points (11% and 9%) however you’re graphic is correct, it’s just the voice over
I might be wrong but he may have said that because the armour health is in percentage
but those should be the percentages right?
For m4 calculating: 100 / 0.7 x (1-0.7) / 2 = 0.214 = 21.4%
and ak : 100 / 0.775 x (1-0.775) / 2 = 0.145 = 14.5%
Or did miss something
Slight error, but *your
@@JoshFlynn101 no, his “your” was correct lmao
@@timsavage4941 Slight error, but his 'you're' is indeed incorrect, as are you.
Back in CS:Source times, there was a rumour, that the helmet only protects you from a single bullet. So if I got shot in the head but survived the round I always rebought.
The Kevlar and the Helmet is still logic: we buy them but where are they? They only showed up in Dangerzone, Both of them must also showed up In Wingman, Casual, Deathmatch, Arms race and evem the Matchmaking
what
I liked before watching the whole thing because I was thinking about this subject for a long time, and you finally MADE A VIDEO ABOUT IT!!
Man at 7:38 the nostalgia liquid ran in my whole body suddenly
I never knew about the kickback from wearing armour vs not. Learn something knew everyday.
my halfyearly exam is going on and i just finished and submitted it
i opened youtube and saw philip's video and i am watching this during my exam
7:38 I audibly chuckled well edited sir.
7:38 Phillip unconsciously making you go watch his other videos...
The SG 553s bullets just delicately remove your armour before violently passing through your torso, then put it back on afterwards.
8:06 Guess what? Real life vests also aren't completely bulletproof. Energy of a bullet has to go somewhere and if it hits you, you may have broken ribs. So they made CS:GO armor right.
Not "right". "Realistic" is a better word. Imo the armour system becomes "right" when it is interesting and intuitive, not when somebody can hit you once such so you will die from internal bleeding. CS:GO is a competitive shooter, not a simulation.
Edit: corrected factual error.
realistic and fun arent the same thing
The vest itself would be "right" if it didn't cover your arms, and if the helmet's health pool wasn't shared with the chest armor's.
It also makes 0 sense that the SG552 has higher penetration than the AWP. Same goes for the Deagle and Revolver.
Is it somewhat accurate? Yeah, sure. But nowhere near to realism. Armor also doesn't reduce your movement which I bet you is something to take into consideration if you really want to make it "right". But no... Not even a slight slow-down.
The armor is not right, nor realistic, it's just done in a way that won't automatically make the team with more money have an unfair advantage. But if you wanna compare it to other games, such as the old CoDs and such, then yeah... It is more realistic. Just remember to avoid mentions about games such as Insurgency
yeah but real life combat vests would completely stop a glocks bullet
@@scottyyay Read my comment more cautiously.
This feels like classic 3kliksphilip content. Philip in his purest form.
I would only argue the "armor = percentage of health against damage" idea would be okay to use if it is within context, like how swords bounce off a knight's heavy armor but blunt weapons like maces and clubs do just fine in crushing the person inside. Maybe some armor in modern-era games could do something similar based on the weapons they're up against, like small arms fire vs rifle fire and so on.
One game that takes the medieval approach really well is Exanima, which is a weird physics-based combat game that's really fun and takes stuff like armor and weapon type into a lot of consideration
I find Arma3 s armor system quite good. The armor only protects when it's actually hit, and depending on the gun the damage varies from incredibly minor (plates vs pistol) to the same as without armor (7.62 and up versus a light police vest). Armor damage is not included in stock arma as it does not REALLY apply inside a combat situation.
I can't believe people are playing this thing... Its been 8 years.... What a fucking legend of a game
To put it simple:
-Don't buy a helmet
-Buy a vest when you have 40% or less of armor remaining in mid game or end game rounds (All the time if you have enough money to buy a house)
-Counter Strike will either way make you lose it no matter what.
-If you have a good aim, and a loosened bolt in your head, then it is not entirely necessary to buy a vest
is it troll or not
I just wish we could see kevlar vests & helmets on playermodels. I think it would be nice.
I never rebuy armour but recently i was in a faceit match and i was at 3 armour left, repurchased kevlar and saved 350$, because having max money from not dying was vital to have those 350$
1:25
I wonder what the guy is doing below...
you can actually see on the screen that hes shooting his opponent in the stomach
@@berosar I mean he looks like doing something else.
kcd was so good I gotta go back and replay it some day
Return of the king
I started watching your Videos actively when I stopped playing actively. Every Video is Like a "aaaaah thats why" Moment for all the Times I was raging and blamed the Game to be buggy
The C-U-M reference made my night 7:39
The funny thing about armor is that in real life, ceramic plates are designed to block several bullets (Usually anywhere between 6-10) from most assault rifles. And a much larger number of bullets from smaller arms! You might get a bruise but the bullet would have been completely stopped if it hit the plate. Even after it breaks it still offers protection, as the bullet might still hit the parts of it that didnt break as much.
So armor in real life IS like what you described at the end of the video. it blocks several hits COMPLETELY before breaking. (Though even after it 'breaks' it still has a chance at providing protection)
As soon as I saw a 3kliksphilip video, I clicked immediately
I have a thumbrule for armour rebuy. If its below 80% just renew.
Ah very nice now I know that when I die to a awp I still have a little armour left
armor hates me
i get shot up a bunch of times with both kevlar and helmet and i am almost dead while my armor is still 100% usable condition
"It'll protect your entire body apart of your legs"
So that's why i still take the same damage with or without armor in Matchmaking, makes sense now
This video got mentioned during Vitality vs. FaZe [Overpass] Map 1 - IEM Beijing 2020 Online
I hope they fix weird bugs in dmg. Like you can get hit for 0 dmg, but it takes at least 1% armor of. Or that there are still ghost bullets.
That case music doe
The mandatory music if you open a case
7:38 Mate i really appreciate you.
8:00 when you get killed with no armor drop from a SG553 and suddenly you're riding a carriage and someone says "hey you, you finally awake"
tell your bro 2kliksphilip to make a kingdom come deliverance vid.
Been playing cs for years... Even before csgo, And i still to this day buy new armor EVERY round even if its at just 99% :D
It actually makes sense to aim low at the point where the stomach meets the legs in many scenarios. Rationale: The hitboxes here are both bigger and give more damage. The stomach is a 1.25 x multiplier and the legs are unprotected by armor which on average is as effective as the 1.25x multiplier.
One game that makes armour extremely interesting is the physics-based dungeon crawler Exanima. It has probably the best armour mechanics I've seen in any melee combat game.
The unboxing millionaire music made me smile
THE WORLDS FIRST CASE UNBOXING MILLIONAIRE
I loved the millionaire tune he played when showing the case 👌👌👌
You'd think the AWP would also have 100% armor pen, considering how its intent is to 1-hit kill to the chest even through armor o.o
As a CT you can buy an AUG to oneshot T's (close range) if this wasn't changed.
Woah I never knew that some aim punch remained when I got shot in chest with kevlar. Would explain some CS:GO'd moments where I swear I was on the top of the head
They got some funky looking arms
7:38 excellent placement, is funnee
I feel like both systems for armor could work in games, mainly medieval with both at once. It wouldn't be too far off from reality to say that weaker armors like leather would only reduce damage taken. But heavy armors such as chain mails and iron plating would negate damage fully until they've taken enough damage to the point where now attacks go through the armor
You are honestly a counter strike legend.
i got super pumped when you played the millionaire music, jesus
The closed captions saying "Armour" When Skyrim says "HEAVY ARMOR INCREASED TO 81"
So when rounding up the game favours more armor reduced but less health points. Feels fair
I just found a new bug ( maybe ) if you get your weapon out then inspect the wrist of the guy is like flapped
I think its still worth buying a helmet on CT side because theres no guarantee the enemy is using rifles. especially in lower ranks where SMGs are very prevalent
A shot that goes through a wall has lower armor penetration? My perception is that yes, it has. At least when I get shot through double doors with an AK-47, the damage seems to kinda split more evenly between HP and Armor, but I never stopped to make the calculations because, well, I'm being shot at.
This could change armor purchase decision depending on position held.
In doom armor determines damage absorption instead of the weapon you use. Different color armors give you different damage absorption. The helmets don't effect damage absorbed they just add points to your armor and the absorption stays to whatever it was before. It's cool to see how a mechanic exists in so many different ways across a lot of games.
@3kliksphilip Look at how damage threshold works in New Vegas for how armor should be done in video games. If you have 10 DT, a 10 damage shot will be 85% less effective, if you take 11, a threshold is crossed and you do not receive the benefit. It shows you in the hud when and when not the threshold is being crossed.
2 KLIKSPHILIP VIDEOS IN ONE DAY???????????
That's it, 2020 is officially too crazy for me
I hate having to type a essay to my teammates saying but fricking kit and armor and maybe we could’ve won the dang game
Always buy armor for that one dude that keeps P90 rushing mid whichever side he's on
been jamming cs for 2 decades. your videos r the most informative around. love you bro. dont stop.
Mitch from South Africa
8-minute video on something that lasts a few seconds sometimes in-game.
I am the toad king. I may sparkle if you scream at me.
good now i know why some chest awp shots only deal 85 damage
the way he says "a thousand dollars" is strangely seductive 4:40
i understood everything cause i already researched and made a video on it a few months ago
When you are at higher lever, armor becomes part of you.
its a very interesting and well ....PROMOTING GAMB.... put together video as usual mr klikphilip
I have legit 3,000 hours on CS:GO and over 900 won competitive matches, and never in my life have i survived for so long that my armor completely worn out
babe wake up new kliksphilip vid
It's your fault I ended up in the upscaling rabbit hole. Thank you! The armor at the start has clearly been upscaled.
I love how at 3:50 philip laughs because the figures on the wiki are actually correct
Wow learning is so fun when its mr kliks teaching
I don't even play counter strike, I jist like the way you explain things.
I hope people learn from this, though it's nice to rebuy vest when it's dropped below 65 or 50.
Fact: In CSS, a Kevlar and Helm set might save you from the Bomb's damage. I got detonated on 1 room away from the bomb in Aztec and the only damage I took from HP was 2, and the damage Kevlar and Helmet got was 50+
"But that's just with the SG-553, which is a silly weapon"
This video aged like milk
i loved the fracture case easter egg
love your content 3klik ❤️
That case unboxing millionaire music tho
I'm pretty sure in the past when your armor completely depleted, your helmet wouldn't disappear so you could rebuy only the vest for 650 and you would still have your helmet with you
It was the same...
Valve didnt change how the armor and helmets works
armor which absorbs all damage until it breaks seems way more gimickey ... its simply doublehealth like that
7:38 This earned you a like
I play with my IRL friends now and again, who play a lot less and subsequently are much lower ranks.
I sit and silently weep as they buy helmets against T side rifle rounds.
The AK goes rata-tat-tat. 😭
Thais actually makes me less confused about armor. Lol my silver friend had no idea what he was talking about
im up to do at 4:30 am hw but i get a notification from yt to this vid
Just a reminder that almost non of this matters in your average silver or gold nova game because half the time the other team doesn’t buy together so one dude might be on a glock but two people have AWPs or everyone buys P90s so not buying helmets because the T side SHOULD have AKs doesn’t work.
i want headshot sounds to be different, so you know if they bought helmet or not. Sure memorizing their economy can help, but during league matches, it would be a "nice to know" feature if the enemy bought helmet or just armor.
I've been one-tapping a lot of T's with a USP because they're not buying helmets.