What I find funny about that is he had all the clues to figure out where the endzone was, including the orange pylon and still couldn't tell where it was.
The ironic thing here is that in the 1979 Rose Bowl, the same Charles White took the handoff, headed for the goal line, got hit, lost the football but his body went into the endzone while the ball lay at the 2 yard line. They called it a touchdown. USC ended up winning the game 17-10. This is infamously called the Phantom TD.
I don't think a lot of people realize what is actually happening here. The ref. isn't saying that he crossed the goal line because he's got defective vision and thought his arms stretched all the way from the five yard line to the end zone. It's because the ref. THOUGHT that the FIVE YARD LINE WAS THE GOAL LINE. Look where he's standing. He's right at the five and he's watching it really intently to see if he crosses it. You can see the runner cross over the five yard line before being pushed back. Somehow the ref. got confused where he was on the field and thought that he had broken the plane of the goal line when it was just the five yard line. Guys, C'MON. I don't care how blind you are, no ref. could ever consciously think that you get a touchdown when getting tackled at the five.
They'd have, possibly, continued their, Dynasty, had Terry Bradshaw not lied to their faces in 1983, but, he did, and, they, indefensibly, passed over Dan Marino, and, they, sadly, wouldn't fully recover until 2004.
@@matthewdaley746 It didn't matter if Bradshaw lied to them, everyone knew he was at the end of his career and Marino was the obvious correct pick. Gabe Rivera was a freak athlete for a DL and had shown promise before his unfortunate car accident, but Marino would have kept the Steelers as a SB threat for the rest of the 80's and well into the 90's.
@KevinT7274 There's zero reason not to take him, except, for his, "cocaine habit," which, if true, would have led, to, incarceration, (or, worse), in Miami, the Steelers have convinced themselves they didn't destroy their team with that decision, and, absolutely nobody believes them.
Thank goodness that Vern Marshall won't be defined by that gaffe. He had a hell of a career overall. Every official has a brain cramp every now and then.
You should if you haven't do a video on how Gastineau's stupid penalty kept the Jets out of the 86 Championship game... people don't realize how close it was to an all NY Superbowl that year,but they wouldn't have beat the Broncos
1984 was the only year in college football a non Power 5 school won a national championship. BYU. 24-17 over Michigan, ironically the defending champion in 2024. BYU is now a Power 5 school in the Big 12.
It definitely was bad, but, it didn't cost Dennis Erickson his job, being a lousy coach did, he only had an NFL career because he, "won," two, National Championships, (with Jimmy Johnson's players), to say nothing of the fact that he was an even worse person than he was a coach, period.
@@OfficialJaguarGator9 Yup, I noticed that too when I use my mini smartphone. I always click (I mean tap) on the 'more' part for the full description of the video(s) in question to see the other videos of reference you made, etc.
I thought the worse blown call in NFL History was that Touchdown call that should had been a INT by the replacement refs in that Monday night football game between the Seahawks and Packers
The Seahawks basically got every call on, MNF, as a result, they kept winning Games where they were outplayed, fortunately, nobody remembers any of this because they would only win one SB.
72 OAK at GB. Packers QB tries a quick pitch near OAK 5 yd line. He laterals it too hard & it bounces off the runner's hip into OAK's End Zone. Jack Tatum ran it back 102 yds for a TD & new NFL Fumble Return Record. A few days later the NFL admitted it should have been a non-returnable Muff but since points were scored they had to let the record stand.
@@OfficialJaguarGator9 Just watched it again on TWIPF 72 week 2. Not a terrible pitch by Scott Hunter, Mac Arthur Lane just flubbed it. Hurts to watch. I've been a Raider Hater since Otis Taylor threw Big Ben down on his empty head.
I'll go with the 2nd explanation. He had a momentary brain fart, and just lost his bearings of where he was. It's funny, but fortunately, a call that's easily corrected, and no harm, no foul. Now, if I'm not mistaken, there was a more egregious bad call that stood, also involving a game with the Jets. In 1998 I believe, Vinnie Testeverde "scored" a TD, when his white Jets helmet broke the plane of the goal line, but not the ball itself. I believe it was before replay came back, and the call stood, and played a big role in the Seahawks losing, and not making the playoffs.
I think there is, or was, another arm signal which had the referee raise both arms up parallel to each other. At the end of regulation the refs raise the ball up to signal, well the end of regulation. But if the ball could not be found, the touchdown signal could be used. I remember reading about a game, can’t remember if it was college or NFL, where this caused some controversy, when the game ended on a near touchdown. Or I could be completely misremembering something.
I think I read about the exact game you're talking about, and it was a WAC game--Hawaii and somebody, probably BYU. It was a WAC rule, though, and I don't think it was an an NFL rule. It was in one of the Football Hall of Shame books.
The Steeler did beat the 49ers that day, the only loss for the 49ers in 1984, They went on to lose the AFC Championship game in the Orange Bowl to the Dolphins. In 1985 the Dolphins handed the Bears their only loss of the season. They also went on to lose the AFC Championship game in the Orange Bowl. The Cinderella Patriots beat them.
I don't think that there is a worst call than "the tuck rule" game between the Oakland Raiders vs the Patriots, where Charles Woodson strpped sacked Tom Brady, Brady fumbles, Raiders recover, game over, No dynasty. But as we all know, things didn't turn out like that
Now they would have used every angle and called new York to determine if it was a td. Oh btw the steelers beat the 49ers that day. The only loss of the 49ers entire season.
It's clear that he mixed up the 5 yard line with the end zone. He had no pattern of this so I'll chalk it up to him checking out the cheerleaders or something
@samuraibeastwarrior2886 The Packers Seahawks Game Was Bad Because The Replacement Referees Were Bad They Thought Golden Tate Made A Touchdown When Clearly He Didn't But The Regular Referees Were Back The Next Week
Legendary Phantom, TD, fortunately, Karma, ultimately, caught up with them in 2005, and, considering, that they would only reach that Game because they, "beat," Notre Dame, that was truly the only fair outcome, simple as that.
@samuraibeastwarrior2886 The Seahawks were notoriously, "fortunate," on, MNF, but, they only won one SB, as a result, this insane good fortune they repeatedly enjoyed has now been lost to the dustbin of history.
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What I find funny about that is he had all the clues to figure out where the endzone was, including the orange pylon and still couldn't tell where it was.
And that’s why instant replay is always needed.
Not the only time someone stupidly forgot where the endzone was in a Jets Browns game. …1991
He led the NFL in rushing with the Rams in 1987
The ironic thing here is that in the 1979 Rose Bowl, the same Charles White took the handoff, headed for the goal line, got hit, lost the football but his body went into the endzone while the ball lay at the 2 yard line. They called it a touchdown. USC ended up winning the game 17-10. This is infamously called the Phantom TD.
2005, hubris, dethroned, unquestionably.
I was thinking about that throughout the story!!
@@markreetz1001Can't ignore it, unquestionably.
Would be more funny if Joe Buck called this game
I'd be willing to bet that the top 20 bad calls of all time in NFL history are all against the Browns.
The Lions have a handful in there, too.
I don't think a lot of people realize what is actually happening here. The ref. isn't saying that he crossed the goal line because he's got defective vision and thought his arms stretched all the way from the five yard line to the end zone. It's because the ref. THOUGHT that the FIVE YARD LINE WAS THE GOAL LINE. Look where he's standing. He's right at the five and he's watching it really intently to see if he crosses it. You can see the runner cross over the five yard line before being pushed back. Somehow the ref. got confused where he was on the field and thought that he had broken the plane of the goal line when it was just the five yard line.
Guys, C'MON. I don't care how blind you are, no ref. could ever consciously think that you get a touchdown when getting tackled at the five.
That's what I was thinking too.
Blows my mind that almost nobody figured that out
You should do a separate video of Matt Bahr, it feels like he is in a video each week
This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made videos about Jets-Browns games in 1981, 1983, and 1985.
Yes surely there’s no way the Steelers beat the undefeated 49ers.
Ala Chris Berman: THAT’S why they play the game.
I remember that game in 1984
They'd have, possibly, continued their, Dynasty, had Terry Bradshaw not lied to their faces in 1983, but, he did, and, they, indefensibly, passed over Dan Marino, and, they, sadly, wouldn't fully recover until 2004.
The 49ers only loss of the season.
@@matthewdaley746 It didn't matter if Bradshaw lied to them, everyone knew he was at the end of his career and Marino was the obvious correct pick. Gabe Rivera was a freak athlete for a DL and had shown promise before his unfortunate car accident, but Marino would have kept the Steelers as a SB threat for the rest of the 80's and well into the 90's.
@@KevinT7274Nasty horrific robbery, unquestionably.
@KevinT7274 There's zero reason not to take him, except, for his, "cocaine habit," which, if true, would have led, to, incarceration, (or, worse), in Miami, the Steelers have convinced themselves they didn't destroy their team with that decision, and, absolutely nobody believes them.
At least the bad call wasn't in a playoff game.
Like maybe a game-winning touchdown catch that was ruled out of bounds?
@@quigonkenny Exactly. Mike Renfro in the 1978 AFC Championship game
@@Jason_MaierSteelers triumph anyway, unquestionably.
That Steelers-49ers game...one needs to do a video on THAT game.
Wouldn't call it a "blown call" considering it didn't stand. More like a weird mistake that was quickly overridden.
At least I know why he blew that call-he didn’t know where the end zone was! 😮😮😮😮
the holy roller was an incomplete pass
Thank goodness that Vern Marshall won't be defined by that gaffe. He had a hell of a career overall. Every official has a brain cramp every now and then.
Surprised the ref didn't call it a home run.
You should if you haven't do a video on how Gastineau's stupid penalty kept the Jets out of the 86 Championship game... people don't realize how close it was to an all NY Superbowl that year,but they wouldn't have beat the Broncos
1984 was the only year in college football a non Power 5 school won a national championship. BYU. 24-17 over Michigan, ironically the defending champion in 2024. BYU is now a Power 5 school in the Big 12.
I thought the Vinny testaverde helmet touchdown was bad. Yeesh
It definitely was bad, but, it didn't cost Dennis Erickson his job, being a lousy coach did, he only had an NFL career because he, "won," two, National Championships, (with Jimmy Johnson's players), to say nothing of the fact that he was an even worse person than he was a coach, period.
Reminders!
@@CTubeManObsencenely overrated consequences, historically.
0:52 The only 100-yard receiving game of then-rookie White's career. He had 7 receptions in this game and just 10 more the rest of that season.
Rip Mr White 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Where the F&@k are these cards in the upper right corner?
You can check also in the description of the video too
They show up on desktop, but I guess not on mobile. They’re always in the description!
@@OfficialJaguarGator9 Yup, I noticed that too when I use my mini smartphone. I always click (I mean tap) on the 'more' part for the full description of the video(s) in question to see the other videos of reference you made, etc.
He locked in on the 5 yard line and he thought it was the Goal line 🤦♂️
I thought the worse blown call in NFL History was that Touchdown call that should had been a INT by the replacement refs in that Monday night football game between the Seahawks and Packers
The Seahawks basically got every call on, MNF, as a result, they kept winning Games where they were outplayed, fortunately, nobody remembers any of this because they would only win one SB.
@@matthewdaley746 still a BS Call
@@samuraibeastwarrior2886Unquestionably, balance, prevailed, however.
@@matthewdaley746 i see
@@samuraibeastwarrior2886Overjoyed you do, unquestionably.
The '84 Browns actually weren't that bad, losing a whopping *eight* games by 4 points or less. They were the complete opposite of the '80 team.
This call, while boneheaded, doesn't compare to the significance and consequence of the #TuckRule
Looks like a TD to me
72 OAK at GB. Packers QB tries a quick pitch near OAK 5 yd line. He laterals it too hard & it bounces off the runner's hip into OAK's End Zone. Jack Tatum ran it back 102 yds for a TD & new NFL Fumble Return Record. A few days later the NFL admitted it should have been a non-returnable Muff but since points were scored they had to let the record stand.
I've wanted to talk about that play for so long. NFL copyrights it but there's so much to dissect with that one
@@OfficialJaguarGator9 Just watched it again on TWIPF 72 week 2. Not a terrible pitch by Scott Hunter, Mac Arthur Lane just flubbed it. Hurts to watch. I've been a Raider Hater since Otis Taylor threw Big Ben down on his empty head.
I'll go with the 2nd explanation. He had a momentary brain fart, and just lost his bearings of where he was. It's funny, but fortunately, a call that's easily corrected, and no harm, no foul. Now, if I'm not mistaken, there was a more egregious bad call that stood, also involving a game with the Jets. In 1998 I believe, Vinnie Testeverde "scored" a TD, when his white Jets helmet broke the plane of the goal line, but not the ball itself. I believe it was before replay came back, and the call stood, and played a big role in the Seahawks losing, and not making the playoffs.
Nice, try, Seahawks, unfortunately-inept.
I think there is, or was, another arm signal which had the referee raise both arms up parallel to each other. At the end of regulation the refs raise the ball up to signal, well the end of regulation. But if the ball could not be found, the touchdown signal could be used. I remember reading about a game, can’t remember if it was college or NFL, where this caused some controversy, when the game ended on a near touchdown. Or I could be completely misremembering something.
No, you’re right.
I think I read about the exact game you're talking about, and it was a WAC game--Hawaii and somebody, probably BYU. It was a WAC rule, though, and I don't think it was an an NFL rule. It was in one of the Football Hall of Shame books.
Meh. Close enough for government work.
I think this line judge might have been doing a bump with Mr. White before the game! 😄
oilers in the 79 championship game that was a TD pittsburgh still would have that game anyway
lol I remember the Steelers winning that game
He simply mistook the 5 for the goal.
The Steeler did beat the 49ers that day, the only loss for the 49ers in 1984, They went on to lose the AFC Championship game in the Orange Bowl to the Dolphins.
In 1985 the Dolphins handed the Bears their only loss of the season. They also went on to lose the AFC Championship game in the Orange Bowl. The Cinderella Patriots beat them.
I don't think that there is a worst call than "the tuck rule" game between the Oakland Raiders vs the Patriots, where Charles Woodson strpped sacked Tom Brady, Brady fumbles, Raiders recover, game over, No dynasty. But as we all know, things didn't turn out like that
Now they would have used every angle and called new York to determine if it was a td. Oh btw the steelers beat the 49ers that day. The only loss of the 49ers entire season.
this call is just as bad as Fail Mary back in 2012 between The Seahawks and Packers
It happens when you get older, lol everything starts to look the same
Poor guy, looks like the official had a really good career other than than this
The line judge, #94, Vern Marshall, wasn’t very good. He never worked a Super Bowl or a Conference Championship game.
Cocaine is a helluva drug...
This is so trivial. I Mean really. So you had Joe Biden reffing a game in the early 80's. So what
I think you're stretching for content now... The linesman goofed, it was caught and immediately fixed. So what??
😂😂🤣🤣🤣
It's clear that he mixed up the 5 yard line with the end zone. He had no pattern of this so I'll chalk it up to him checking out the cheerleaders or something
The only problem with that theory is the Cleveland Browns have never had Cheer Leaders
@@dale6613 then it falls under "or something".
This Call The Referees Blow This Call A Touchdown This Was Not A Touchdown Give Me A Break
it just as bad as the Packers seahawks game back in 2012
@samuraibeastwarrior2886 The Packers Seahawks Game Was Bad Because The Replacement Referees Were Bad They Thought Golden Tate Made A Touchdown When Clearly He Didn't But The Regular Referees Were Back The Next Week
@@rushbroussard5399 i still say it the worst blown call in NFL History nothing is worse than Fail Mary
You left out the other factor for messing up calls near the goal line. Charles White. See Rose Bowl..
Legendary Phantom, TD, fortunately, Karma, ultimately, caught up with them in 2005, and, considering, that they would only reach that Game because they, "beat," Notre Dame, that was truly the only fair outcome, simple as that.
The worse call in the history in the NFL is Fail Mary
That's not a play that "no one remembers, " though.
@@pronkb000 i remember it
@@samuraibeastwarrior2886 Yeah, exactly. This was about a call that no one remembers.
@@pronkb000 itsap for me
A one minute wide purposely stretched to over 17. I’m done with this channel.
Yeah, this one was a reach. It would have been more interesting if he'd actually stood by his call.
Music City Miracle is the worst call in the history of the NFL and nothing will change my mind.
You're wrong. It was a legal lateral. You're just sore that your team lost
Bills were absolutely, hoodwinked.
@@cablehogue599Their defense stunk, unquestionably.
@@matthewdaley746 Fail Marry is the worse call in NFL History
@samuraibeastwarrior2886 The Seahawks were notoriously, "fortunate," on, MNF, but, they only won one SB, as a result, this insane good fortune they repeatedly enjoyed has now been lost to the dustbin of history.