(9/10) CC3D Flight Controller - Setup for a Tricopter
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ค. 2015
- To see all of the videos in this series visit • Introduction to CC3D
You can see me building this frame in this video - • HJ-Y3 Tricopter Frame ...
You can order the same frame here - www.tomtop.com/hj-y3-carbon-fi...
You can see more about the little FPV transmitter used here in this video - • Great FPV on a Budget ...
In this video configure the great little CC3D board in another type of multirotor frame - a Tricopter!
In this video we cover -
- Introduction (0:02)
- How to wire up the Tri-copter (2:39)
- How to install the firmware using the Wizard (3:48)
- How to check the settings are right in GCS (11:20)
- How to test the tail moves in the right direction (12:44)
- How I fixed the tail jitter problem on this model (13:58)
- Summary (18:25)
Thank you for watching, please LIKE and SUBSCRIBE.
Happy flying!
Still have 2 beloved CC3D and decided on a 3d printed tricopter frame for one and three out of 4 motors after a crash .. CHEERS ! ...... loving vtol series !!
Fantastic! I'm going to follow your tips very strictly. A HUGE thank you for your time and work!
I am new to this, so I am always looking for vids on the different components and their setup. Love your vids, easy to follow, full of info.. Hats off to you sir!!!
Very nicely done, even on the OpenPilot forums many have struggled with the yaw setup. Yours is a perfect example of proper troubleshooting where nothing should be assumed. In this case assuming that the problem was strictly based on settings.
Thank you for this tutorial. It helped ALOT!
thank you so much this helped so much it works great on the bat bone tricopter frame
Thank you so much for this video. While watching the tricopter build video I was asking myself "how do I deal with the tail servo?". Then at the end of that video you mentioned the link to this video. I am still waiting for some components to complete my build but things seem fairly clear, even for this beginner. Thanks again.
Glad it helped! :D
And great again. Thanks for sharing
cheers for that m8 I also had to use 128 for ppm now gotta sort tail wag out
what a VERY well done instructional video
Thank you! :D
Really Awesome Build! May have to put one together myself ;-)
Very nice garden too! :-)
thanks! very good instruction!
I have been running the cc3d on a small tricopter and had some of the same issues with the tail oscillating at first. I use a good savox digital servo and all props were balanced. The stock PIDs were way to to high so I turned them down and that seemed to eleviat the problem. Tricopters are multirotor unicorns! The firmware is not finely tuned for them, not that I'm complaining because I have no idea how to write code, much less for free. I will post my PIDs when I get a chance. Painless, mind sharing yours? just curious what worked for ya.
One thing to bear in mind with this frame is that the servo may quickly move back and forth from the central position even while on the ground. I thought my servo was broken, but instead it is because the weight of the motor moving is causing the craft to yaw, setting up an oscillation. To stop it, you just have to hold the boom the motor is on and it should quickly calm down
Which digital servo did you end up using? Any specs to note when looking online for one? Additionally, do you have any 2018 recommendation updates for flight controller and software? I'm currently building a HJ-Y3 now. Thank you.
freaking awesome, thanks so much how about doing ti for an kk2 bord?
Firstly, Thanks for the great videos I am learning a lot. Now, I got my hands on HJ Y3 tri-copter. It already had two B2212 - 920 KV motors. The tail motor was missing. I have some spare motors and is it ok to put the 2204/2300KV for the tail. Is this a miss match( for fun flying). What Props should I use for all 3 moors ( pops were missing). It's cc3d board running on Betalight. Regards, Dimi
I've only tried using different spec motor and props on a model once - I'll not do it again! 2212/920KV motors used to be used a lot with 9x4.3 and similar props (see the 10" endurance build as I'm using something similar)..
Ok I've sorted the spinning in 1 direction and can now take off but it's now got that tale wag and i already know that you've mentioned that in your video so ill try again to sort that! I will let you know how i got on , but thanks for you help
Best of luck with it!
Nice! thx
Hey sir, can you tell me what servo you eventually got. Because I got into the same problem you did with the spline size, unfortunately I do not have a local hobby shop.. so everything is online.
+Visesh Lall The MG90 that came with the kit. I couldn't find another that fit the rear motor mount splines..
hiya buddy I'm building the same tri as this video however I'm having trouble with the correct way to wire the cc3d for ppm with a d4r2 you show pins 123 for ppm on the cc3d but another video I was watching showed pins 1 and 2 used for pos and neg and pin 8 for signal any advise would be great cheers pete
+Peter Webster Depends on the firmware you are using, in the CC3D Revo series we had to use Pins 1,2 and 8 for PPM - check the manual for what you're using.. Best of luck!
Hy thank you for this video my mini tricopter finally fly
Glad we could help a little! Happy flying!
FWI: Just in case someone leaves their servo plugged in during FC setup and burns out a servo like I did, you might know that the replacement Tower Pro MG90S Micro servo, one which looks and is labeled/sized identical, the servo we might find on-line or, anywhere and purchase it as a replacement, well, it has a spline that does not fit the Tail assembly for the HJ-Y3. I suspect they made a special edition for the company who makes that HJ-Y3? I got lucky and had some 3D pros from HK, RC711.com. Just luck I had um.
Hello,
what should you think about the wing length?
Pardon? I don't understand the question..
Hi , Thanks for the video. Motors 1 and 3 are counter clockwise but I noticed that the tail motor prop (the orange one) is clockwise prop. Should it be like that ?
Doesn't matter on a Quad... Happy flying
@@Painless360 no , not possible. You can't have your motor run clockwise while it has counter clockwise prop. No matter if it's quad or tri copter.
Hello again, in your vid you stated that you tried to replace the servo for a digital one but you couldn't find one to fit! Well i brought a new mg90 as i damaged the original and found that the new one didn't fit , when i looked closer i noticed that the spline on the new one was also different, ha i suppose thats because they want us to rebye the whole tail system and not just the servo! Any way im not putting up with that ,and have decided to make a digital servo fit, and hopefully that should solve the problem
Gary Sparshott The way I was considering sorting it was to see how wide the hub of the servo arm (that came with the new servo) was, drill out the splines with a drill of the right size, cut off the arms of the servo arm, leaving only the hub. Epoxy that hub into the hole I'd just drilled in the tail. Fit to servo!Should work fine. Best of luck.
just went on their website but my system says it is not a save webpage, which i never had with any page before
i found that if i turned down the mix levels\yaw on the vehicle screen this stopped the tail jitter and it flies great.
think its just over compensating a bit??
is it possible to use a servo with a feedback sensor like what David Windestål uses ?? if so how?? :)
+vern kelk all servos sense their position. If you have a question for David, I'd ask him ;)
+Painless360 the servo he uses has a forth wire?? not sure if cc3d can use em??
+vern kelk I've never used a 4 wire servo. I suspect that you need a more common 3 wire servo here. Best of luck!
Same here. Just sorted out the tail jitters by lowering the mix levels for yaw. For my setup it works best at 15%. Then from there, tune yaw PIDs. Ended up with Yaw P-92, I-230, D-0.
Hi Painless360 I've got a quanum trifecta Tricopter and I'm having trouble with getting the rear servo working, I've got it set up on a naze32 rev5 flight control board.
Sorry, we're not very up with Tricopters here. This is the only build we've done. Best of luck with it!
I am having a problem setting up my transmitter in CC3D. I am using a Turnigy 9x transmitter with stock firmware and a turnigy 9x8C v2 receiver. When I get to the point where it says "Move the Throttle stick" I am getting no indication showing that I am moving the throttle stick. Light is red on the transmitter and everything seems to be connected properly. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Can you see the throttle move on the channel monitor screen on the radio? How is the Rx connected - PPM, S-Bus? Happy to help but please watch th-cam.com/video/olIqTiSJHIY/w-d-xo.html and come back to me with more detail of what you've tried..
is it possible to disable the yaw servo movement while the board is disarmed? i think the board should not output any signal - including escs - while it is disarmed.
keremizgol Not that I have found yet - if you figure it out please let me know..
The CC3D looks like it is isn't positioned straight ahead?
It looks like it is turned 90 degrees to the right?
Mark Smallman That is right, look in the 'Introduction to CC3D' video playlist on the channel for a video on how this is done..
Hi really like your channel! , CAN YOU HELP!! I have followed your cc3d setup but when i power up my hjy3 just keeps spinning round and round can you help PLEASE!! Thanks
Gary Sparshott Happy to help but please watch th-cam.com/video/olIqTiSJHIY/w-d-xo.html and come back to me with more detail of what you've tried..
I have the same hj-y3 tricopter but my main problem is that when I try to take off it flips backwards to the left please help
See our video on things to check if you flip on take-off - all of the common problems are covered in there.. Best of luck!
thanks for the heads up.i was setting up a naze32 rev6 on my tricopter and baseflight does not work.no wonder there are not any videos.wasted my time.so its going to get openpilot.after flying it with the kk 2.1.5 its time for upgrade.i have an atom and an evo they fly great on my quads.figure try the naze on one of my quads.everyone loves cleanflight i may have to try it.
If you want Tricopters then have a look for David Windestål on TH-cam, he was the chap that used to so entertaining and knowledgeable on FliteTest about Tricopters..
yes indeed i see once i open my eyes and look for it.i am rebuilding my tri with a naze 32 rev 6 and flashed with cleanflight now have it working correct.
What kind of motor & prop would you recommend for this frame?
+K Khalifah 2205 motors are the common choice now, depends on the size of prop you need. Happy flying!
I'm having an issue with the tail motor. Everything works fine on the initial setup. all motors spin on test and the servo responds correctly. But when I try to fly it, the Tail Motor won't spin at all. Front 2 motors do. Any Idea's why.. Thanks for you videos.. I have learned a great deal from them..
I've not seen that here, it's odd that it works on calibration.. I'd retest that the motor/esc works when driven from the GUI. Best of luck!
Got it, bad connection on the ESC sometimes is worked sometimes it didn't.. soldered it back and now it works. Now to stop the yaw spin.
Best of luck!
have you done a tricopter with naze 32 yet, as my one just spins round and round :0(
+Paul Fry No, we are not fans of the tricopter here - too much messing about with tail servos ;) Best of luck!
My flight mode sticks doesn't work while I'm configurating so I can't use the fs t6 , do you know how to fix it?
Not sure, always works here. Best of luck finding a solution..
+Dani MC Hey, i'm in the same boat right now, I did some digging and found you are supposed to assign a switch... I tried but gave up for the night. Did you have any luck?? Would appreciate the help thanks!
+Visesh Lall Hey, I solutionated the problem by doing this: when the computer setup says to you to assign a switch for the flight mode, you will have to use another one instead of the classic flight mode switch, in my case I used the small wheel up of the roll stick.
Sorry for my english but Im trying to improve it.
im building my tricopter but i dont know exactly whats is the sequence of the ports for the motors are.i have a naze 32 rev5 on ibus.
+Edgar Omar Delgado Mares if you install the software onto the board and select the tricopter model type the image in the gui will show you all the connections. Best of luck
channel 1 and 2 said is servos,, 3,4,5 motors... but servo is no responding and only chanel 3 is working.. motors work on chanel 1,2,3. but servo on 1 dont work ..the only thing i can get work is chanel 1,2,3 for the motors.. actually i did conect servo on 1 and it spin until it brake.. can you give me an ideas what cut be wrong.. i appreciate your help.. (by the way,, im using fs-ia10B ,naze 32 rev5 ,on ibus, and configured on cleanflight).. thank you..
Sir, I have built the same by following your steps and configuration but whenever I raise my throttle it flips. I have also seen your another video in which you have demonstrated the solution for flipping I have tried but still, I am unable to solve it Please help me.
th-cam.com/video/P4soR6QgOk0/w-d-xo.html I have a video on what to check if you quad flips on take off, it should help..
hi there, i just mount that same frame whith a cc3d atom and a emax digital servo, the first time it flys well but it drifts away wondnt stand still and now without Doing any change when i try to lift it whats to spin and the tail just goes crasy, can you help, i tried de PI setings and does not do nothing, please help.
+Fernando Madureira Nothing to do with PID probably. Check the ESC calibration, and accelerometer calibration is spot on...
+Painless360, I calibrate de esc one by one they are emax 30a with simon k then i calibrate, on the attitude, the level, the filtering is 0,10 but i don`t know what tis value represents, i am sorry but i am a noob on this i only fly helis and my last one is a 350 3D and i loved it, that´s why i choose a tri i have heard that was very similar to a heli, but i am having so much trouble that i am almost giving up.
i will see if these weekend i can spend some hours on it but anyway if you have some thing to advise please do.
Thank´s for your attention and sorry for mi English.
The only "Open Pilot" software I can find is for sailing boats...
See the intro video to this series - you need to be looking for LibrePilot or dRonin now.. Best of luck!
Can open pilot be installed in a Flip32+?
+Steve Gross Not that I've seen..
great stuff how about setting up with naze 32
david shore Sorry but I am not planning to. There is loads of great detail on the net and with this video and the Quad Naze32 setup video on the channel already I'm sure you can figure it out quite easily.
Let me know when you've set yours up.
Happy flying!
dave s David Windestål (Mr. Tricopter) has some very detailed setup vids for both the KK2 and Naze32 board.
Hi, I plan to build a tricopter, I have cheap SG90 servos, but testing with servotester the digital servo is shaking at most of the positions or by a small force or during movement. The analog does not have this shaking issue but has slower response.
how can this issue avoided? I have used APM as FC so far and wish to use a CC3D for my first tricopter, no KK board.
th-cam.com/video/WAR8IE7otjY/w-d-xo.html
Make sure the refresh rate is set right for the servo you are using and eliminate any slop or binding in the mount. I'm not a fan of tricopters for this very reason.. Best of luck!