Rodolfo R. Llinas - What Do Brains Do?
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- What are the functions of brains? What kinds of activities do brains do? How are the multiple activities of brains integrated, so that animals act in organized manners and pursue integrated goals? Considering the remarkable capacities of brains, they are astoundingly small. Most watermelons weigh more.
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Rodolfo R. Llinás is a Colombian neuroscientist and currently the Thomas and Suzanne Murphy Professor of Neuroscience and Chairman of the Department of Physiology & Neuroscience at the NYU School of Medicine.
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This is such a down-to-Earth yet profound description.
Sir u r a genius 👏👏👏
Wow, this is absolutely mind blowing, one of the most mine blowing videos I've seen in a while actually, thanks!
I love Llinas's likening of muscles cells working together to cause movement and neurons working together cause thought. We exercise the muscles through strenuous movement as we exercise the brain through strenuous thinking.
muscle cells dont cause movement , they carry out the movement. You should at least consider they idea that for brains is the same. Brain dont cause consciousness, it carry on consciousness expression.
*"Brain doesnt exist. "Brain" is just an idea in consciousness."*
... John, this is a perfect example of "redundant data." You see these same words posted over and over to the point that the data is no longer relevant. These comments are incapable of evolution, so they become dormant information.
Marco's copy-paste comments represent the same type of redundancy. After x-amount of times being posted, the data is no longer relevant ... You simply move on to discover "new data" as stated in my book.
@@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC "Brain doesnt exist. 'Brain' is just an idea in consciousness.
... John, this is a perfect example of redundant data. You see these same words posted over and over to the point that the data is no longer relevant. These comments are incapable of evolution, so they become dormant information.
Marco's copy-paste comments represent the same type of redundancy. After x-amount of times being posted, the data is no longer relevant ... You simply move on to discover new data as stated in my book."
Good point 0-by-1!
@@francesco5581 What you are referring to is a causal chain and the _root_ cause.
@@francesco5581 Muscles are what is doing the movement they are not carrying out the movement. Without working muscles you cannot move. Without a working brain there is no consciousness because brain waves are not being generated to produce consciousness.
Good one
Brilliant describing.
It is amazing to think that our brains are our only interface with reality.
What about kidneys when they run out of water 💀
There is no reality everything is subjective .
@@ibrahimkaya7684 So is your statement?
@@owaisahmadshah6453 I don’t exist, that statement does not belong to me.
@@ibrahimkaya7684 How do you know that you don't exist?
Most brains don’t do very much. As George Carlin said
“Think of how stupid the average person is. Then realise half of the people are more stupid than that.”
Do dreams (during sleep) use memories and thoughts to create mental images, in contrast to waking awareness using sense perceptions for mental images?
@@visancosmin8991 What does this even mean? Are you spouting meaningless phrases to sound spiritual?
In day we interpret and interact with universe using information from our limited senses physics of light speed information processing and causation. In dream we use sunchronicity instead of causality to relate connect events and people . So we actively adjust ourself to different levels of subjective reality experiences.
You can think of it like a sensitivity knob that gets turned up, similar to the loudness of silence. The stronger the external input signal, the weaker the internal background, or noise floor. In a similar sense, one sometimes says the environment is "so loud I cannot hear my own thoughts". Hence, both dreams and thoughts arise as background noise, only visible when the input signal is sufficiently quiet.
@@visancosmin8991 Reality is the way something is or the thing in itself. Consciousness means that something is awake and able to react.
One can only see out by looking in.
Kidneys filter, brains think. Ok? OKAY?
Now the question is who is in dreaming state ? i.e. our brain or we , now when we say "WE" then another question arrises dose conciousness emarge from brain ? Or conciousness it is so radically different from material objects that we can not answer this , on the otherhand Vedas say we are not our dreaming state , we are not our awake state , we are not our unconscious state , we are beyond these state and that can be achieved only in deep meditation state.
The brain is in the dreaming state. Deep mediation puts people in a lucid dream state not a beyond state.
Universe is a network similar to brain, we are part of this changing network and we emerge as consciousness wave pattern and disappear by dynamics of the network. Our wave is transferred to our next generations and spread in the spacetime.
I'm really starting to believe that as a collective consciousness, we as the observers are not only responsible for everything we see, but that there's a hidden law in place that states all beings within humanism must be conditioned to follow given standards in order to be fully and completely controlled.
Meaning that even the things you think you see happening in the world are happening to some degree, but they are always purposeful. They will never fail to achieve whatever thing it's after. Your thoughts, movements, all of it. The entire thing is basically a huge lie that we continue to hold up because otherwise everyone would probably die.
It's scary to think of how utterly dependant we are on the system and still sit and continue to ponder things that can and will only fit within its framework. I mean the whole idea of math is useful, but we've spent far too long making that our reality...
Humans are indeed following their nature as cogs. They have no other choice. But this is not bad, as their purpose was never for the pleasure they have been programmed to assume. Like a carrot on a stick, instinct keeps us chasing what nature wants. There are no true individuals, for all thoughts and actions stem from the greater system. We are but blind servants. The illusion of personal control is only a heuristic dream to oil the shaft.
Why is it that the human brain creates mental images in sequence like in a movie or cartoon?
*"Why is it that the human brain creates mental images in sequence like in a movie or cartoon?"*
... What's the alternative?
@@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC In conscious brain yes, but in subconscious instead of causality (light restticted information processing) we process information in synchronicity domain beyond spacetime and senses.
That sounds an awful lot like “Lucid Dreaming”… That’s kind of “huge”… I have some wild intuitive idea that I’m out of my body when I do what he said…
My question is: how would you know if you were alive in Consciousness or alive in body…? Or could you get confused and or would it be possible to imagine a reality into existence, like a simulation…It’s very interesting… I love this kind of stuff…
Brilliant discussion…
👍
Thr is no inside/outside
Careful there, or heads might implode.
so, if you swiched a blind persons eyes on they wouldnt see anything that meant anything to them.
It would be fascinating to see a blind persons construct of the world. They must have one.
The problem is materialism. They start with the priori that everything emerges from some material process. It’s a fantasy. Correlation doesn’t equal causation. A person feels love and there’s brain activity so Scientists will attach causation to the brain. The brain activity doesn’t tell you who you love or why you love that person just like activity in your car engine doesn’t tell you why you visited your cousin. When you write a word document the computer is active but that activity doesn’t say why you wrote a poem or a book report. The brain is an interface as Cognitive Scientist Donald Hoffman says. Awareness interacts with it and we have conscious experience. The brain is just an interface that allows us to interact with the 3 dimensions of space and 1 dimension of time we’re in at this time.
Stop confusing materialism with methodological naturalism.
They aren’t the same thing .
This is the kind of people you should talk to if you really want to know what conciousness is, not philosophers puneteros.
In some cases, very little.
The secret of life lies mostly within quantum physics interpretations of it..
It's the brain which have neurons to intercept with consciousness and subconsciousness to form ideas, thoughts and philosophies making us to form the reality, know the reality, know the universe. Its the brain which governs our every sense organs, our every actions and reactions. It's the brain which makes us to analyze, reanalyse, inspect and introspect and take decisions. It's the brain which is ultimately developing and maturing with respect to development of the universe modifying our inventions to innovations, designings to developments, productions to manufacturings of the entire materialistic world.
@@visancosmin8991 From a mathematical point of view, I notice the following. When your claim is that everything is consciousness. I assume you mean by that; your own experiences, everything you can know and suspect but also all my experiences and everything I can know or suspect and everything else. I also make a claim about everything, including about the same experiences that you or I have or may have. The only difference from your claim is that I call it physical world. But since both claims are about the same set of everything , there is only one set of everything, and are the same claim except for the name of the collection, I conclude that we use a different name but mean the same thing.
@@visancosmin8991 Consciousness is a brain process resulting from neural mechanisms. Consciousness cannot exists without brain and brain is the product of matter. Without a brain, there can be no consciousness.
@@visancosmin8991 I am looking for meaning. Your vision makes all the "terrible" suffering in this world meaningless.
Oh wait, suffering is "just" an idea.
@@visancosmin8991 So you are God? Tell me about that if you want?
Brains are able to learn from the Spirit of Truth.
@@visancosmin8991 Brain is literally the gray matter in your head.
Might brains also "learn" from the Spirit of Deception?
@@visancosmin8991 Who or what gave you that thought? Why is it happening?
What if the brain is a form of some sort of electrochemical quantum computer?
Runs this operationing system called consciousness
What if natural selection is the hand of god at work?
Universe is a neural betwork and gods mind, we are part of this network and we are part of god.
@@visancosmin8991 can l ask.... do you actually exist? (Always wanted to know)
Brain is a form of brain computer...
In this video, RLK is clearly enjoying having his materialist prejudices fed with a feast of fancy, but fancy it is, and what a feast. What neither of them (alongside too may others) seem to notice is that science, including neuroscience, depends on and starts and ends with with perception. If all that we see is somehow an illusion, then presumably all science does is explore the further details of the illusion, not reality. One cannot so glibly do away with reality then quietly invite its return through the back door as an explainer of the illusion. It would just be a _part_ of the illusion right from the off.
@@visancosmin8991 I noticed your reply and thought I would elaborate a bit. I also noticed that you are a physicist. I am a philosopher interested in consciousness. I may seek out your papers.
Do you feel mathematics and its relations to the external world are an illusion?
Science is a controlled collective hallucination.
@@Robinson8491 No! I don't think that all that much is 'really' an illusion. I leave that thought to others. But you hit upon something important. Mathematics tells us much about reality but not everything. In a nutshell, it (mathematics and physics) describes the structures and motions of the parts, and that is important, but it tell us precious little about the intrinsic qualities of reality, which it all too readily and incautiously denounces as illusion.
@@visancosmin8991 Indeed, computational formalism is just the wrong tool for understanding consciousness. Consciousness can only be grasped subjectively, though that is a slippery and loaded concept, as is that of objectivity. There is too much an unthinking linkage of objectivity with reality and subjectivity with illusion. Since the very possibility of doing and thinking science depends upon consciousness, we should have pause for thought here - which is, alas, none too common.
BS
When you're thirsty you drink water. 🙄
well they give me enough insight not to watch this show because I don't be meaningless
(2:10) *RL: **_"We are emulating reality inside our head."_* ... The universe emerged from the juxtaposition of "Existence" and "Nonexistence" through a nondimensional point called a singularity. The first representation of stable matter that followed was the hydrogen atom consisting of one positively charged proton and one negatively charged electron. 10 billion years later, the first ambassador to biological life emerged as a prokaryote consisting of a single chromosome surrounded by a rigid outer shell. The emergence of this prokaryote also introduced the unprecedented dichotomy known as "life and death" to Existence.
When you were conceived, a single sperm was fused with a single ovum. This produced a fetus that further evolved into an advanced lifeform to which its evolution could no longer be sustained within the womb. ... thus, you were born. Your individual evolution from ovum and sperm into the adult you are today mirrors the evolution of the cosmos from the archetypal juxtaposition of Existence and Nonexistence, proton and electron, chromosome and shell, and life and death.
After 13.8 billion years, Existence has evolved to the point that you now have a highly complex brain that's capable of comprehending everything I just wrote. You currently represent the highest level of evolution since the beginning of Existence, and your brain exists to assimilate and process all of this data.
... _So, use it!_
System evolved lmao. Yea its really clear.
This is absolutely false, this is not a dream nor an illusion this is a simulation and we created things out of stuff with the help of the God's above which some people call the sky watchers. We ARE in the machine the body is a machine the mind has already been programmed by the way we've all once already lived it and many will relive it for eternity called eternal recurrence.
God exists just to say: "Jesus!" To comments like this...
I wonder if God knows that when the Angels sing there really isn't any song it's just imagination. When Adam saw colors and animals they really didn't exist so I wonder why he named all the animals.
That means we think we have a president running this country but we really don't. Well you got that one right.
Brains are able to understand that only your Creator can perfectly cover for you Himself and remake you again from the inside out by the power of His true word as no one else can since everything you do is on and against your Maker whether you intend for it to be or not.
@@visancosmin8991 Brain is literally the gray matter in your head.
This is a word salad that does not mean anything. The Creator would not care about being worshipped because at that point she / he would be able to spit out reality on a whim. Creator would not care if anyone believed in him / her because they would be at a level where everything would be a non dimensional point.
The Creator would be forever hidden because and we would never know anything about her / him.
@@kos-mos1127 *"The Creator would not care about being worshipped because at that point she / he would be able to spit out reality on a whim."*
... There's a fine line between worship and praise. I think those who subscribe to religion see "worshiping the creator" as the same thing as an atheist who "pays homage to existence." Many consider existence as a privilege.
After all, a smart man worships his wife! :-)
@ Jungle, @ KOS : There is no need to separate and delineate yourselves from the Creator. There is no need for cutting Creation into Creator and Created. There is one unified ocean of happening, with each seeming individual as but a wave of aberration.
@@kos-mos1127 Your Creator is responsible for everything you do.
They mess things up in the name of enlightenment and attaining the Truth. Do as the good dogs do: be happy, be loyal, be loving, work hard when you need to, explore your reality, and occasionally relieve yourself of the accumulated brain gas (just to keep your ego in check and your feet on the ground).
Well said.
If you are happy being a non thinker, be what you are, happy!
Every brain behaves, in principle, the same as any cellular colony behaves. Refer, for example, McDonald (2015)** showing that "Biologists discover bacteria communicate like neurons in the brain." So, what is it that distinguishes a human's neuronal clump from a dog's or a bird's? It's the body that makes the difference. Bodies wire neuroplastic, DNA-entangled brains. This is because the body is the vehicle that apprehends experiences and meaning. What's it like to be a bat? Or a fish? What's it like to be our opposite sex? Look not at the brain, but at the body that wires it.
**McDonald, K. (2015). Biologists discover bacteria communicate like neurons in the brain. UCS San Diego News Center
What do computers do?
They do what you program them to do.
That’s the most intelligent thing you ever said. And what do quantum cats do ? They don’t do what you tell them to do
Can you name a complex or concerted effort of yours that is _not_ serving instinct? For example, my message here is largely driven by the cognitive dissonance of encountering what seems to be information possibly contradicting my worldview.