At 75, as a retired IT guy I appreciate your openess to & use of new tech while reflecting decades of experience in shooting sports. IOW, great combination yielding one of my favorite channels. You speak to your viewers in an everyday tone while confidently sharing your opinions - based on experience. Clear you're having fun! Thx for having us along. 👍🏼
My Dad carried the M14 as a Marine in Vietnam. He never talked much about the war but he did talk about the M14 a lot. He thought very highly of them. He shot expert with one in book camp. But anyhow ive always wanted one. Especially now since hes gone. I got his flag mounted on the wall and it would be great to mount a M1A underneath it 😊
You've still got good eyesight to shoot groups like that. I use an IMR powder load for my national match M1A and get about the same as you are getting, around 1 MOA. Somedays I seem to be able to shoot a little better other days a little worse but on average it's a 1 MOA rifle. I've got some 175gr Serria Match bullets I'm going to try and duplicate the famous military long-range match loads with before long. I sure wish I had a range as nice as that one close to where I live.
Well done. The proof is in the pudding as they used to say and your recipie of 3 ingredients you've baked in will surely win you a Blue Ribbon at the Fair.
As always, a great video. It appears that the few touch ups you’ve done to that rifle have made it a solid shooter; that first load was really grouping well. Thanks for posting!
Excellent group! Shots 1-3 and 5 pretty tight. Only that one shot #4 went a bit low but overall, nice! Wish I had a local range like that. Thanks again for another great video. Love all your good advice on scopes and shooting and ammo! 👍
Thank you for standing up and shooting these rifles like they were meant to be shot! So many shooters never get up from the bench, and they never develop an appreciation for the elegant balance of a traditional rifle when shouldered properly.
Yes, and just as unfortunately, many of the same folks translate bench shooting to field shooting and believe they are equipped to shoot wild game, and worse, at long range.
About a year ago, I bought the same m1a from my local shop. Springfield standard in 308. the front band holding the gas piston on raddled. they don't come with the bayonet lug any more. ( that was soon changed) . and my rear sights were as bad as yours. the devcon on the rear sight did the trick, that raddle gone. I did install national match sights. Needs shims. Now the rifle is holding a 2" group at 100yds. the next project will be a unitized band and gas piston assembly, then a glass bed. I wasn't going to do the mods, but once you get started !!! My other m1a is a NM heavy barrel with mods. thx Blue for the tips, there still a fun gun to work with.
Nice way to spend the morning and I didn't even get cold or work up a sweat. I think you have a real tack driver there. Excellent work. Do you plan to film any more testing with the rifle and loads?
GB outshot me on the 2nd round as my M1A Standard and I are placing rounds at 100 yds within about 3 inches 😆 Bringing out the drone and adding it to the video production is a great move...all on your own too. Great stuff, sir.
Awesome video as always brother!!! I found this video to be very interesting and informative, Well Done Sir!!! Impressive shooting results!!! I've always enjoyed shooting that weapons platform. I haven't shimed my gas block yet. Gas block shims are on my list to do. Mine has a standard milspec "TRW" barrel that shoots well. I still need to glass bed the action on a new replacement wooden stock. The "Last True American Steel Battle Rifle." Stay Safe!!! God Bless and God Bless America 🇺🇸 🙏 Let Freedom Ring 🇺🇸 🔔 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
I bought an M1a scout squad a few years back, 18" barrel. The wood stock wasn't available so I got the tan synthetic thinking I'd get a wood stock later. Got groups similar to what was shot here with Winchester white box & Federal fusion both 150 grain. Field stripped it once just to be sure I knew how & haven't changed a thing other than to put a scope on it. Many rounds later it still shoots great & I've finally kinda gotten used to the plastic.
Nice rifle! Beautiful day! I've had good results with the Sierra matchking 175 gr. All you need now is a good set of BDU's and your friend ALICE. May The Father of Heaven and Earth Bless you also....
Very enjoyable, like your use of the drone...I think I definitely must get one now that you've proved another good use for it. That M14 is also on the wish list..until then the M1 Carbine will do
Thank you Mr GB. It had to be a crisp morning, could see the mist of your breath at some points in this video. From the leaves turning slightly it seems you've had a cold night or two already. Nice shooting, it's amazing to me that you shoot that well with irons and no corrective lenses. I'm a wee bit younger than you and I can't even see a front sight post without correction (reader lens) on my sighting eye. See the target fine; the front sight is a vague mess.
I'm the beneficiary of cataract surgery, which restored 20/20 vision seven years ago. Very simple and effective. Everyone should take advantage of it. The leaves in color right now are the beech and oaks. The fabulous maples peaked here on Columbus Day and are pretty spent.
great shooting, also note how the group is measured, before I measured from center to center, but this leaves some room for error, better to use sides of "circles" of bullet holes. great video. thanx.
Gunblue, Thanks for the follow up video. Looks like your M1A is perfectly tuned. Great work. Would you ever consider white tail hunting with that rifle? If not, what’s your favorite deer rifle? I know you love your lever action Winchester but is that your go to rifle or do you use a bolt gun or something else? Looking forward to youth hunting weekend here in a few days. Best wishes to you and yours.
Thank you. It certainly could be used for deer hunting, with the appropriate required 5 round magazine in this state. Unless I had such a wild spontaneous urge, it's pretty unwieldy to tote around, and not so easy to point quickly. I typically like to take my Model 70 .257 Roberts when I plan to take a stand by a long shot, but the Model 94 is my favorite for the woods.
I say yes, you did a good job shooting well now what I’d like you to see is how to sweeten up that trigger just a little bit. We don’t have to do major work just something to improve the trigger pull.
This was very interesting. I'm expecting my M1A in a few days and I'm planning to give it a similar treatment. It is too simple and inexpensive to pass on. The one thing I'd have liked to see different is if the same ammo was used before and after. Just to eliminate that variable. So, I'll put my money where my mouth is and do that test. Should be fun if nothing else.
Always wanted a M1A but wanted one that was accurate. So now your looking at National Match rifles and above which get expensive. It was confusing. Now I know what I need, just a std rifle and put a little time in it. Thanks for the Videos, they are very helpful.
I love the M1A I'm seriously thinking about buying one. I don't think the highly upgraded versions are worth it for me either but I do think the M1A loaded walnut is a good value. Thank you 👍
You're killing me brother ................. a freakin drone? Why didn't I think of that. Terrific job on the whole project. I'm of keen interest as I have never bedded an M1A, but going to in the immediate future. However, just when I thought I was stepping-up my game and getting a new Triggercam for my YT channel, I find you. Now I suppose I'll have get get a drone .. jeez. Thanks )-: I have built from scratch a few M1A's but never bedded one in a stock. My plan is to put a SOCOM 16 into a US GI Vietnam era M14 stock. $85 buck from Numrich. It should be sic! Nice job again my friend.
Yes! Great video GunBlue490! This is what we've been waiting for. I've been saving for a while to be able to purchase my own M1A and I was wondering, is it safe to shoot any general .308 caliber cartridges in the M1A or will I need strictly military style cartridges with powder configurations specifically made for the M1A like "7.62x51 NATO". I didn't know if there was some discrepancy in the rifle chambering that made it unsafe to shoot all the other civilian .308 offerings/hunting or target cartridges or if your own hand loads required that special consideration. Thanks!
Thank you. Springfield Armory M1A rifles are stamped .308, and are perfectly safe for any commercial .308 Winchester ammo, without reservation. Before accurizing it, last Memorial Day, I produced a video where I demonstrated it with a number of different commercial loads. Because it uses a short stroke tappet system, combined with a self compensating gas port, there are no special concerns about internal pressures, as with the Garand. That being said, such gas systems can fail to cycle fully with quicker burning powders, but it won't hurt them. Contrary to many ridiculous assertions, the action feeds like any box magazine repeater, and handles any bullet type perfectly. It is absolutely not limited to full metal jackets or hollow points, and there's no reason whatsoever to limit it to such types. In fact, it feeds so smoothly that the bullets that you witnessed striking the paper were not even crimped in place.
The one reason I never bought one of these is because of the barrels not being chrome lined. Considering the price and purpose of that rifle, I really want it to be chrome lined. For people who are better about cleaning than I am, and especially target shooters, they’re probably happy without it. But I need the chrome.
Jeez thanks for spilling the beans. It's already hard enough to find as it is without you helping the situation. I'm stocking up what I can afford when I can get it.
@@user-rw1oj4bo7e he said IMR powder, not 4064... That basically leaves 4895 or 4166. And 4166 has been discontinued... So unless our gracious host has a stash of 4166 on the shelf, it's likely 4895. It wasn't any secret. Lol
Always enjoy your videos. Tons of useful information without a lot of useless hype. Sensible things we all can relate to and learn from . Thank you . What range are you at , if I may ask ? I'm in NH as well ,,,, just curious if it's a public use range 🤔. Dan .
What is your opinion on the durability of the epoxy? I've heard "Armorers" claim 3 to 5 K rounds. Also, what is your opinion of using kids play dough instead of plumbers putty? Seems play dough would be easier to work with. I have both on hand but don't rat me out to the crumb crunchers!
Good epoxy bedding will last forever, especially when used in minimal amounts to shim the walnut. There's no space between the steel and epoxy, so it's not being hammered, and it does not compress or deform under load. Armorers need revenue to pay their bills. Anything that fills the voids and is removable is fine.
Random question, but hopefully you are the person who can help me with it. I bought a new rifle package with a scope. I took it to a gunsmith for a muzzle brake. When I picked it up the smith told me that the rings had not been tight enough when he removed the scope, so when he reinstalled the scope he tightened them down more than they had been from the factory. I asked him if he used a torque wrench. He said no. I would assume that they came from the factory with the proper torque. I am worried that if he has now torqued them beyond what they came with from the factory without using a torque wrench, that he may have over torqued them and ruined my scope. How would I know if I have a problem or not?
Yes, that's a particular pet peeve of mine. I never knew a gunsmith who ever used a torque wrench for installing scopes. I've installed hundreds of scopes over the course of 55 years without a torque wrench. In each of the three factory armorer classes that I took at S&W, Ruger, and Remington, I never used or even saw a torque measuring device. Lots of factory screws are installed by air wrenches that vary considerably in torque as the static pressure is depleted, or as water builds in the system. They limit the high end, but not the low, which is probably what happened to your factory installed scope. A properly fitting gunsmith screwdriver used in the hand with reasonable leverage provides perfect torque, without being capable of over tightening. Torx or Allen screws can also be tightened with the simple L-shaped wrench that Leupold and others supply with their bases and rings, and are perfectly self limiting by design. I did a particular video on the issue of torque some years ago to dispel the silly rather recent myth that torque measuring devices are necessary for guns. Like so much of the expensive paraphernalia with the various claims, it works for the folks that sell them. Some gun manufacturers are now providing torque numbers, only because folks these days have an attachment to them like a security blanket and can't accept the world without fixed numbers, an so their phones ring off the hook with such demands for numbers. These are not engine block bolts or aircraft frames. These are little screws with steeply inclined threads with lots of leverage. When they stop turning, simply stop turning. Even AR barrels have no need for torque wrenches, but thousands are sold every day to those that are being told to use them. 30 to 80 pounds is a very imprecise range that simply means use a big wrench and tighten the thing to where the gas tube lines up, that's all. Army armorers never used a torque wrench to change barrels. They just learned to tighten it until things lined up.
@@GunBlue490 Thank you for your response sir, I feel better now. I have just heard all these people on youtube talking about how you can damage your scope if you go even a few inch pounds over the specified tolerance listed by the manufacturer, and it is kinda scary for a guy like me who doesn't yet have enough personal experience to disregard the fear mongering.
@@andrewdudenhoffer9512 Whether it's likely you'd ever crimp/buckle the tube on your scope by over-tightening really depends on your mechanical finesse. If you're the type that overdoes everything, a "hamfist" as it were -- then a torque wrench may save you. If you tighten fasteners with a good sense of feel for the surfaces mating and drawing snug, a torque wrench may be overkill. I've known hamfists who absolutely shouldn't wrench on anything w/o a torque wrench, and have known tentative timid tool users who would benefit from it, as they may stop short of snug enough.
I have two questions I would like to ask? First question, do you mean nickel silver when you say German Silver and the second question is, what diameter of rod? Thank you.
German silver is generically called nickel silver, yes. A 5" or so length of 1/4" rod is what I use. At one end, file a 20 degree chisel taper on each side, leaving about an 1/8" wide blunt end, which works for most things, such as driving sights, peening, etc. The end can easily be modified for any special need. S&W gave me mine 45 years ago during my 2 weeks training there, which is the tool used in the factory. You should also have a small 4 ounce ball peen hammer and a Stanley double head plastic mallet.
@@GunBlue490 You are correct LOL. I have an old Remington 7mm-08 that my dad bought me I'm guessing almost 20 years ago so it has a lot of sentimental value to me. As much as I'd like to go buy a new Tikka I'd like to try and get this gun shooting better first. I've killed a lot of deer with this gun up at our camp in Maine over the years and I really like it minus the accuracy issues. I've tried a bunch of bullets over the years, and it seems like every year I go through the same thing trying to sight it in and I never get consistent groups. My cousin told me yesterday that I should probably have it bedded and that would help the accuracy issues. I've watched the videos on how to do it and I'd just rather pay and bring it to someone that will do a nice job instead of me butchering it. I see that you are from NH and I'm just south of Boston and I didn't know if you would possibly be interested in doing this or if you could recommend someone in our area. Ty
@@christopherd7922 Thanks for watching. Remington rifles are all capable of very fine accuracy. I don't know what your stock material is but if it's walnut, it is inhibited by two issues; pressure on the forend, and looseness of the action. If it was ever free floated, the entire barreled action is just swinging in the stock. The cure is to glass bed the action with a two- point method as I demonstrated in my two part video several years ago. It's actually quite an easy process that most folks with average mechanical skills can accomplish. At the top of my home page click the video tab, that will display all my past videos from 10 years. Please also review a more recent video where I discuss the question of glass bedding. I can't recommend any specialist, and I cannot perform such work without the required federal gunsmith license. Most Remingtons require a very small amount of simple hardware store Devcon high strength epoxy, followed by free floating the barrel channel with a sandpaper wrapped dowel. I've done over a dozen Remington rifles, and they all shot magnificently afterwards. As a note, be sure to inspect your barrel crown for possible nicks. That's a very easy home repair that I can possibly demonstrate one day.
@@GunBlue490 Ty so much for getting back to me. I guess after the season I could try it, but it’s definitely not something I’m going to attempt now with only three weeks away to Maine. I was contemplating getting a Ben and Carlson stock for it that has some aluminum blocking in it and it would be free floating, but still not bedded. I would guess this might help the accuracy a little better then the stage it’s in now. I’m guessing I probably do have a walnut stock that could definitely use some TLC
Just a thought but before spending money try a different scope. Maybe you have a cheap take off Tasco or something I had a Weatherby MK 5 in 7 WBy Mag I tried every bullet weight from 129 gr to 175. All different brands factory ammo and handloads. In desperation took off an expensive Weatherby Scope put on a cheap Simmons 4x. Bingo 1inch groups or better with every bullet weight. By the way I put a Bell&Carlson stock on an old Ruger M77. Like it very much
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At 75, as a retired IT guy I appreciate your openess to & use of new tech while reflecting decades of experience in shooting sports.
IOW, great combination yielding one of my favorite channels. You speak to your viewers in an everyday tone while confidently sharing your opinions - based on experience.
Clear you're having fun! Thx for having us along. 👍🏼
My Dad carried the M14 as a Marine in Vietnam. He never talked much about the war but he did talk about the M14 a lot. He thought very highly of them. He shot expert with one in book camp. But anyhow ive always wanted one. Especially now since hes gone. I got his flag mounted on the wall and it would be great to mount a M1A underneath it 😊
Thank you for the follow up video!!
You've still got good eyesight to shoot groups like that. I use an IMR powder load for my national match M1A and get about the same as you are getting, around 1 MOA. Somedays I seem to be able to shoot a little better other days a little worse but on average it's a 1 MOA rifle. I've got some 175gr Serria Match bullets I'm going to try and duplicate the famous military long-range match loads with before long. I sure wish I had a range as nice as that one close to where I live.
Well done. The proof is in the pudding as they used to say and your recipie of 3 ingredients you've baked in will surely win you a Blue Ribbon at the Fair.
The proof of the pudding is in the eating.
Gotta give you props sir for your use of the drone and putting that video out all by yourself!! Great job, love your work.
Thank you. Yes, I'm the entire production, director, camera, sound and editing crew.
@@GunBlue490 Learning & using new skills keeps the mind and body working.
From another 'old guy,' well done and thanks.
I second Big Gee's sentiments. Your videos are always very informative and a blessing.
SEE YOU AT CAMP PERRY SIR! WELL, MAYBE THAT WAS TRUE MANY, MANY YEARS AGO.
Great video again! Thank you and best regards from good old germany!
Those glasses take me back to Jim zubiana from Miami vise…I recon Was a great shooter
Those B&Ls started out with me 13 years before Miami Vice first aired. They copied me! 😀
Truly an enjoyable video as well as informative. Worth watching every minute as in all your videos.
As always, a great video. It appears that the few touch ups you’ve done to that rifle have made it a solid shooter; that first load was really grouping well. Thanks for posting!
Excellent group! Shots 1-3 and 5 pretty tight. Only that one shot #4 went a bit low but overall, nice! Wish I had a local range like that. Thanks again for another great video. Love all your good advice on scopes and shooting and ammo! 👍
Terrific video and I love your hat! I moved from VT to FL five years ago, and I miss my Moxie! Cannot get it down here.
Thank you for standing up and shooting these rifles like they were meant to be shot! So many shooters never get up from the bench, and they never develop an appreciation for the elegant balance of a traditional rifle when shouldered properly.
Yes, and just as unfortunately, many of the same folks translate bench shooting to field shooting and believe they are equipped to shoot wild game, and worse, at long range.
Nice shooting, nice rifle
Excellent video as usual.
I couldn’t help but chuckle when I watched this one. Great video as usual.
Most underrated channel on TH-cam. Thanks for your knowledge.
Really neat to see he went all high tech out for his target checking. Nicely done! 👍😁
A drone!?!? That's brilliant!!
Superb! Thank you sir. P.s. you sound exactly like my puppa and his brother. They are from out east.
Nice set up ,drone and all. Thanks Sir.
About a year ago, I bought the same m1a from my local shop. Springfield standard in 308. the front band holding the gas piston on raddled. they don't come with the bayonet lug any more. ( that was soon changed) . and my rear sights were as bad as yours. the devcon on the rear sight did the trick, that raddle gone. I did install national match sights. Needs shims. Now the rifle is holding a 2" group at 100yds. the next project will be a unitized band and gas piston assembly, then a glass bed. I wasn't going to do the mods, but once you get started !!! My other m1a is a NM heavy barrel with mods. thx Blue for the tips, there still a fun gun to work with.
I'm glad to see your back, love the M1A1
Another great video. Lots of quality information which is well presented
Another fine production. I always learn something new watching your videos.
Great to see the rifle shoot so well! Thank you for another great video. The drone is awesome!
Nice way to spend the morning and I didn't even get cold or work up a sweat. I think you have a real tack driver there. Excellent work. Do you plan to film any more testing with the rifle and loads?
Thank you. I'm sure I will, though I've got some other pots on the stove right now!
GB outshot me on the 2nd round as my M1A Standard and I are placing rounds at 100 yds within about 3 inches 😆 Bringing out the drone and adding it to the video production is a great move...all on your own too. Great stuff, sir.
Awesome video as always brother!!! I found this video to be very interesting and informative, Well Done Sir!!! Impressive shooting results!!!
I've always enjoyed shooting that weapons platform. I haven't shimed my gas block yet. Gas block shims are on my list to do. Mine has a standard milspec "TRW" barrel that shoots well. I still need to glass bed the action on a new replacement wooden stock. The "Last True American Steel Battle Rifle."
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Great group, a little up and to the right and you're all set.
I bought an M1a scout squad a few years back, 18" barrel. The wood stock wasn't available so I got the tan synthetic thinking I'd get a wood stock later. Got groups similar to what was shot here with Winchester white box & Federal fusion both 150 grain. Field stripped it once just to be sure I knew how & haven't changed a thing other than to put a scope on it. Many rounds later it still shoots great & I've finally kinda gotten used to the plastic.
Thank you sir for this video! I just started this journey on load development…
Well done, Sir! Thank you for for your knowledge and expertise! Sub MOA…outstanding!
Good stuff as always 👍
Nice rifle! Beautiful day! I've had good results with the Sierra matchking 175 gr. All you need now is a good set of BDU's and your friend ALICE.
May The Father of Heaven and Earth Bless you also....
I'm the pre-BDU generation, but I know ALICE! God bless.
Very enjoyable, like your use of the drone...I think I definitely must get one now that you've proved another good use for it. That M14 is also on the wish list..until then the M1 Carbine will do
Beautiful rifle, great shooting that group is damn good.
Thank you Mr GB. It had to be a crisp morning, could see the mist of your breath at some points in this video. From the leaves turning slightly it seems you've had a cold night or two already. Nice shooting, it's amazing to me that you shoot that well with irons and no corrective lenses. I'm a wee bit younger than you and I can't even see a front sight post without correction (reader lens) on my sighting eye. See the target fine; the front sight is a vague mess.
I'm the beneficiary of cataract surgery, which restored 20/20 vision seven years ago. Very simple and effective. Everyone should take advantage of it. The leaves in color right now are the beech and oaks. The fabulous maples peaked here on Columbus Day and are pretty spent.
@@GunBlue490 Thank you. God bless you, Mrs GB & Benny.
great shooting, also note how the group is measured, before I measured from center to center, but this leaves some room for error, better to use sides of "circles" of bullet holes. great video. thanx.
Frank Malzone would love that hat. Nice end to the series.
Nice little range!
Gunblue, Thanks for the follow up video. Looks like your M1A is perfectly tuned. Great work. Would you ever consider white tail hunting with that rifle? If not, what’s your favorite deer rifle? I know you love your lever action Winchester but is that your go to rifle or do you use a bolt gun or something else? Looking forward to youth hunting weekend here in a few days. Best wishes to you and yours.
Thank you. It certainly could be used for deer hunting, with the appropriate required 5 round magazine in this state. Unless I had such a wild spontaneous urge, it's pretty unwieldy to tote around, and not so easy to point quickly. I typically like to take my Model 70 .257 Roberts when I plan to take a stand by a long shot, but the Model 94 is my favorite for the woods.
I say yes, you did a good job shooting well now what I’d like you to see is how to sweeten up that trigger just a little bit. We don’t have to do major work just something to improve the trigger pull.
Very good content. Thanks. Btw, gorgeous range.
This was very interesting. I'm expecting my M1A in a few days and I'm planning to give it a similar treatment. It is too simple and inexpensive to pass on. The one thing I'd have liked to see different is if the same ammo was used before and after. Just to eliminate that variable. So, I'll put my money where my mouth is and do that test. Should be fun if nothing else.
Thanks, great video. You're getting pretty handy with that drone. I might have to look into getting one. Any suggestions?
Nice shooting,Thanks for the video.
Always wanted a M1A but wanted one that was accurate. So now your looking at National Match rifles and above which get expensive. It was confusing. Now I know what I need, just a std rifle and put a little time in it. Thanks for the Videos, they are very helpful.
I love the M1A I'm seriously thinking about buying one. I don't think the highly upgraded versions are worth it for me either but I do think the M1A loaded walnut is a good value. Thank you 👍
I'm thinking about the loaded too. Lol
I love your hat I drink that stuff all the time and I love all your videos I watch you all the time keep up the good work!!!!
The Moxie hat !!! Made in Lowel Massachusetts !!!
You're killing me brother ................. a freakin drone? Why didn't I think of that. Terrific job on the whole project. I'm of keen interest as I have never bedded an M1A, but going to in the immediate future. However, just when I thought I was stepping-up my game and getting a new Triggercam for my YT channel, I find you. Now I suppose I'll have get get a drone .. jeez. Thanks )-: I have built from scratch a few M1A's but never bedded one in a stock. My plan is to put a SOCOM 16 into a US GI Vietnam era M14 stock. $85 buck from Numrich. It should be sic! Nice job again my friend.
Great video and very informative.
That’s a nice range.
Yes! Great video GunBlue490! This is what we've been waiting for. I've been saving for a while to be able to purchase my own M1A and I was wondering, is it safe to shoot any general .308 caliber cartridges in the M1A or will I need strictly military style cartridges with powder configurations specifically made for the M1A like "7.62x51 NATO". I didn't know if there was some discrepancy in the rifle chambering that made it unsafe to shoot all the other civilian .308 offerings/hunting or target cartridges or if your own hand loads required that special consideration. Thanks!
Thank you. Springfield Armory M1A rifles are stamped .308, and are perfectly safe for any commercial .308 Winchester ammo, without reservation. Before accurizing it, last Memorial Day, I produced a video where I demonstrated it with a number of different commercial loads. Because it uses a short stroke tappet system, combined with a self compensating gas port, there are no special concerns about internal pressures, as with the Garand. That being said, such gas systems can fail to cycle fully with quicker burning powders, but it won't hurt them. Contrary to many ridiculous assertions, the action feeds like any box magazine repeater, and handles any bullet type perfectly. It is absolutely not limited to full metal jackets or hollow points, and there's no reason whatsoever to limit it to such types. In fact, it feeds so smoothly that the bullets that you witnessed striking the paper were not even crimped in place.
@@GunBlue490 perfect explanation, thank you so much for that!
@GunBlue490 Would you say this bedded M14 now shoots better than your wood stock Mini 14?
What a great range! Is that near Conway perhaps? Great vid sir
!You're a gentleman.
Lakes region.
@@GunBlue490 Thanks boss! Please keep the vids coming sir. Much appreciated.God bless.
The gas shims are the cheapest, and best improvement one can make out of the box.
The one reason I never bought one of these is because of the barrels not being chrome lined. Considering the price and purpose of that rifle, I really want it to be chrome lined.
For people who are better about cleaning than I am, and especially target shooters, they’re probably happy without it. But I need the chrome.
Glad to see the final outcome. You said the load was an IMR powder, not 4064... Im guessing IMR 4895.
Jeez thanks for spilling the beans. It's already hard enough to find as it is without you helping the situation. I'm stocking up what I can afford when I can get it.
@@user-rw1oj4bo7e he said IMR powder, not 4064...
That basically leaves 4895 or 4166. And 4166 has been discontinued... So unless our gracious host has a stash of 4166 on the shelf, it's likely 4895.
It wasn't any secret. Lol
Always enjoy your videos. Tons of useful information without a lot of useless hype. Sensible things we all can relate to and learn from . Thank you . What range are you at , if I may ask ? I'm in NH as well ,,,, just curious if it's a public use range 🤔. Dan .
Winnipesaukee
@@GunBlue490 thank you ,,, I'm in Sandwich. Not too far away....
Helluva job. Proof is in the pudding
Yeah was gonna say we need some hunting videos, especially another deer taken with a 30 30.
4895 😉
What is your opinion on the durability of the epoxy? I've heard "Armorers" claim 3 to 5 K rounds. Also, what is your opinion of using kids play dough instead of plumbers putty? Seems play dough would be easier to work with. I have both on hand but don't rat me out to the crumb crunchers!
Good epoxy bedding will last forever, especially when used in minimal amounts to shim the walnut. There's no space between the steel and epoxy, so it's not being hammered, and it does not compress or deform under load. Armorers need revenue to pay their bills. Anything that fills the voids and is removable is fine.
What's the group look like when shooting standing? How'd ya do?
Random question, but hopefully you are the person who can help me with it. I bought a new rifle package with a scope. I took it to a gunsmith for a muzzle brake. When I picked it up the smith told me that the rings had not been tight enough when he removed the scope, so when he reinstalled the scope he tightened them down more than they had been from the factory. I asked him if he used a torque wrench. He said no. I would assume that they came from the factory with the proper torque. I am worried that if he has now torqued them beyond what they came with from the factory without using a torque wrench, that he may have over torqued them and ruined my scope. How would I know if I have a problem or not?
Yes, that's a particular pet peeve of mine. I never knew a gunsmith who ever used a torque wrench for installing scopes. I've installed hundreds of scopes over the course of 55 years without a torque wrench. In each of the three factory armorer classes that I took at S&W, Ruger, and Remington, I never used or even saw a torque measuring device. Lots of factory screws are installed by air wrenches that vary considerably in torque as the static pressure is depleted, or as water builds in the system. They limit the high end, but not the low, which is probably what happened to your factory installed scope. A properly fitting gunsmith screwdriver used in the hand with reasonable leverage provides perfect torque, without being capable of over tightening. Torx or Allen screws can also be tightened with the simple L-shaped wrench that Leupold and others supply with their bases and rings, and are perfectly self limiting by design.
I did a particular video on the issue of torque some years ago to dispel the silly rather recent myth that torque measuring devices are necessary for guns. Like so much of the expensive paraphernalia with the various claims, it works for the folks that sell them. Some gun manufacturers are now providing torque numbers, only because folks these days have an attachment to them like a security blanket and can't accept the world without fixed numbers, an so their phones ring off the hook with such demands for numbers. These are not engine block bolts or aircraft frames. These are little screws with steeply inclined threads with lots of leverage. When they stop turning, simply stop turning. Even AR barrels have no need for torque wrenches, but thousands are sold every day to those that are being told to use them. 30 to 80 pounds is a very imprecise range that simply means use a big wrench and tighten the thing to where the gas tube lines up, that's all. Army armorers never used a torque wrench to change barrels. They just learned to tighten it until things lined up.
@@GunBlue490 Thank you for your response sir, I feel better now. I have just heard all these people on youtube talking about how you can damage your scope if you go even a few inch pounds over the specified tolerance listed by the manufacturer, and it is kinda scary for a guy like me who doesn't yet have enough personal experience to disregard the fear mongering.
@@andrewdudenhoffer9512 Whether it's likely you'd ever crimp/buckle the tube on your scope by over-tightening really depends on your mechanical finesse. If you're the type that overdoes everything, a "hamfist" as it were -- then a torque wrench may save you. If you tighten fasteners with a good sense of feel for the surfaces mating and drawing snug, a torque wrench may be overkill. I've known hamfists who absolutely shouldn't wrench on anything w/o a torque wrench, and have known tentative timid tool users who would benefit from it, as they may stop short of snug enough.
Not so much concerned about powders as I am primers...
Can you advice which M14 is better? Fulton, Springfield or JRA? Thank you in advance. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
They are all very good. I personally prefer to spend the least. Any issues are easily remedied for a few dollars.
5 clicks should be about 5 inches at 100 yds
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I have two questions I would like to ask? First question, do you mean nickel silver when you say German Silver and the second question is, what diameter of rod? Thank you.
German silver is generically called nickel silver, yes. A 5" or so length of 1/4" rod is what I use. At one end, file a 20 degree chisel taper on each side, leaving about an 1/8" wide blunt end, which works for most things, such as driving sights, peening, etc. The end can easily be modified for any special need. S&W gave me mine 45 years ago during my 2 weeks training there, which is the tool used in the factory. You should also have a small 4 ounce ball peen hammer and a Stanley double head plastic mallet.
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@@GunBlue490 You are correct LOL. I have an old Remington 7mm-08 that my dad bought me I'm guessing almost 20 years ago so it has a lot of sentimental value to me. As much as I'd like to go buy a new Tikka I'd like to try and get this gun shooting better first. I've killed a lot of deer with this gun up at our camp in Maine over the years and I really like it minus the accuracy issues. I've tried a bunch of bullets over the years, and it seems like every year I go through the same thing trying to sight it in and I never get consistent groups. My cousin told me yesterday that I should probably have it bedded and that would help the accuracy issues. I've watched the videos on how to do it and I'd just rather pay and bring it to someone that will do a nice job instead of me butchering it. I see that you are from NH and I'm just south of Boston and I didn't know if you would possibly be interested in doing this or if you could recommend someone in our area. Ty
@@christopherd7922 Thanks for watching. Remington rifles are all capable of very fine accuracy. I don't know what your stock material is but if it's walnut, it is inhibited by two issues; pressure on the forend, and looseness of the action. If it was ever free floated, the entire barreled action is just swinging in the stock. The cure is to glass bed the action with a two- point method as I demonstrated in my two part video several years ago. It's actually quite an easy process that most folks with average mechanical skills can accomplish. At the top of my home page click the video tab, that will display all my past videos from 10 years. Please also review a more recent video where I discuss the question of glass bedding. I can't recommend any specialist, and I cannot perform such work without the required federal gunsmith license. Most Remingtons require a very small amount of simple hardware store Devcon high strength epoxy, followed by free floating the barrel channel with a sandpaper wrapped dowel. I've done over a dozen Remington rifles, and they all shot magnificently afterwards. As a note, be sure to inspect your barrel crown for possible nicks. That's a very easy home repair that I can possibly demonstrate one day.
@@GunBlue490 Ty so much for getting back to me. I guess after the season I could try it, but it’s definitely not something I’m going to attempt now with only three weeks away to Maine. I was contemplating getting a Ben and Carlson stock for it that has some aluminum blocking in it and it would be free floating, but still not bedded. I would guess this might help the accuracy a little better then the stage it’s in now.
I’m guessing I probably do have a walnut stock that could definitely use some TLC
Just a thought but before spending money try a different scope. Maybe you have a cheap take off Tasco or something
I had a Weatherby MK 5 in 7 WBy Mag I tried every bullet weight from 129 gr to 175. All different brands factory ammo and handloads. In desperation took off an expensive Weatherby Scope put on a cheap Simmons 4x. Bingo 1inch groups or better with every bullet weight. By the way I put a Bell&Carlson stock on an old Ruger M77. Like it very much
What kind of drone do you have
DJI Mavic Air 2
GunBlue490 Would you say the glassbedded M1A is now lower MOA than the Mini 14 with the wood stock?
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