I am currently writing the bios for a three way match up between Darth Maul, Asajj Ventress, and Galen Marek: the orphaned assassins of the Sith. While writing about Ventress’ lightsaber it got me thinking: where did she get the blue crystal from for her Jedi weapon? Because I doubt there were crystal deposits on Rattatak, that left me with only two possibilities. One was that her lightsaber was in fact a spare weapon that belonged to Ky Narec that he passed onto Ventress as part of her Jedi training; thus making Ky Narec at least an occasional user of Jar’Kai. The other possibility is that she made the crystal herself, pouring the Force and her sense of bringing the warlords of Rattatak to justice that resulted in her shining blue blade. What do you guys think? How did Ventress get her blue lightsaber? And yes, I’m afraid I am using Maul and Ventress from before TCW retconned their stories.
Very good battle. Kresh is very impressive with her lightning, and if it wasn't for the Emperor I think she would have been able to be on the top tier of the Dark Council.
Well bare in mind she probably gets an amp from not only having a portion of vitiate inside her mind but he personally trained her like imagine having his force potential and getting serious training from Plagleuis or Sidious
Random Theory: Could the Duel on Yavin IV between Anakin and Asajj been a contributing factor in the reawakening of Exar Kun's dormant spirit? More specifically the moment when Anakin gives into his rage and Djem So's her arse?
Great video as always. Here are some suggestions for future versus match-ups: Jaina Solo vs Count Dooku (Legends only) Darth Krayt vs Mace Windu (Legends only) Asajj Venress vs Darth Maul (Legends only) Lucien Draay vs Anakin Skywalker (Legends only
REALLY want to see this, I think Jaina ultimately gets him Anakin-style but only barely. Krayt, moderately but in a really fascinating fight. Maul, but on the back of physical endurance. Skywalker. I like what you're going for, but Anakin's on a totally different level.
I agree. I think Jaina v Dooku is probably the most interesting. Jaina's stats are basically Anakin light, but with greater self control and arguably more intelligent. I think Draay's best chance is to beat Anakin quickly. By this I mean in the first exchange 7 Samurai style. Although I admit this is unlikely. I think another interesting match would be Jaina vs Anakin. It would be an interesting version of brain vs brawn.
I love how how fast you're cranking these out!! Keep up the great work! Have you considered using any characters from the legacy era? How about Cade skywalker vs saba sabastyne? I'd love to hear your thoughts
What do you think about this? The Broken Berserkers Darth Maul vs. Sora Bolq I find it weird that you haven’t used Darth Maul in a while considering that he’s a character that’s right up your alley. For his comeback video, I think he would make an excellent match for Sora Bolq. I think it would be interesting taking two masters of form 7 and seeing who’s application is better. Maul’s focus or Bolq’s savagery.
Assuming you mean TPM Maul, he takes it over Bulq. They're about equal as duelists from a skill standpoint when both are amped by rage, but Maul is a much smarter fighter with greater physicality and power in the Force.
+wristofkings Disagree on the skill level. As a lightsaber instructer who co-created Vaapad, I see Bulq as a better duelist. But, otherwise I agree on TPM Maul taking this.
I think Bulq wins. Maul doesn't use his force abilities often enough. And I doubt he's much more skilled in that area to even make a difference. And Bulq is skilled enough to defeat him.
Hey man I just wanted to let you know that your choice to refuse Disney cannon coupled with your passionate but logical approach to the videos is what makes your channel so great IMO keep up the good work bro!
John Smith but Clone Wars was created by Lucas and Filloni before Disney...much of the show including getting to see Ventress in action was enjoyable and added world building. Why treat it like Lucas had nothing to do with it?
orphanedhanyou because he didn't he was working on a movie called red tails at the time and because it was Dave philoni who messed up SW mythos w that BS of a show
+orphanedhanyou If you watch the TCW DVD features they make it clear that George Lucas was just a creative consultant for the show just like he was with the EU. They also make it clear he did not direct a single episode of the show either.
Josh Powell-Morris it's not being whiny. It's having something called "emotions" and being conflicted. (P.S: to me, Kylo is the only good thing that came out of the sequels)
It was a joke bashing his TFA persona. I'll agree he was better in TLJ but like most other aspects it is overshadowed by mediocrity that doesn't make me hateful, but apathetic.
@@SpaceMonke99 No really, he was even more pathetic in TLJ. "Let the past die" yet he declares himself Emperor of his Dollar Store Empire, with Tie Fighters, Stormtroopers and all, and now he's putting back together his mask and keeping Vader's. What an inconsistent clusterfuck.
Since you're on this Ventress trip, how about pairing her up against Starkiller from The Force Unleashed 2? You could put her up against Galen Marek as well, I guess, but I think the Starkiller matchup might be more entertaining.
Yep, Galen isn't nearly as unstable of Kresh, more capable in martial arts, and has even more force techniques at his disposal. It's only a question of how close Galen's victory would be.
How about Blademaster Kassim from Path of Destruction vs Phantom Menace Maul? Since TCW Maul took away most of what made him really dangerous might be a good one for you as your distaste for TCW would perhaps give you a less tainted opinion on him.
I already know who he's gonna pick. Asajj will win. Watch. Also idk who to cheer for. I honestly feel bad for both characters. But I'm gonna break the mold here and pull for Kresh cuz hotness lol
- Tier 1 : Complete Mastery. Absolute paragons of the Force. GM Luke, Yoda, Palpatine - Tier 1.5 : Complete Mastery with minor limitations. The absolute best, though crippling handicaps, age, or overspecialization prevent them from perfection. Dooku, Darth Bane (as of DoE), Darth Vader, Mace Windu, Exar Kun, Kyle Katarn. - Tier 2 : Advanced Mastery. The top of the High Council for the Jedi Order. Obi Wan, Plo Koon and Shaak Ti. Other examples could be Darth Malgus (by the time of the False Emperor and Onslaught arcs), Darth Marr, Darth Baras, Darth Thanaton, Kao Cen Darach, Corran Horn, Lumiya, Mara Jade Skywalker. - Tier 2.5 : Advanced Mastery in the making. Anakin Skywalker and arguably DE Luke. - Tier 3 : Standard Mastery. Lower High Council members, great skilled knights or Sith Apprentices. Kit Fisto, Saesee Tinn, Ki Adi Mundi, Adi Gallia, Eeth Koth, Qui Gon Jinn, Jaden Korr, Cade Skywalker, Galen Marek, Asajj Ventress, Darth Zannah, Darth Maul. - Tier 4 : Advanced Application. Where most highly skilled masters and knights fall into. Rahm Kota, Luminara Unduli, Quinlan Vos, RoTJ Luke, Rebels Ahsoka Tano, Bultar Swan, AoTC Obi Wan and Anakin (with the latter perhaps being a bit higher). - Tier 5 : Standard Application. A tad above the regular mold, usually highly skilled Padawans, mid level knights or low level Dark Siders. Aayla Secura, TPM Obi Wan, TCW Ahsoka (Seasons 3-7), Nahdar Vebb, Kanan Jarrus, Cal Kestis, Darth Wredd, Komari Vosa, Savage Opress, Teneb Kel, Kylo Ren. - Tier 6 : Basic Application. The barebone basics of how to use a lightsaber and the Force. Ezra Bridger (Rebels Season 1-2), Yun, the Petranaki Arena fodder. - Tier 7 : Basic Knowledge. Younglings and untrained Force users. ANH Luke, Grogu. TL;DR Watch his Exar Kun vs Darth Maul Post-Mortem video, the first 3 minutes explain how the Fanalysis tier system works.
VERY happy to see this fight come to fruition. It's great to see Exal again given the respect she deserves, even if she doesn't end up coming out on top, which I can't disagree with even though I prefer Exal as a character. I could actually see these two maybe getting along, in a strange way--I feel as if they'd respect each other's crazy, in a way few others do. Some other suggestions for you: Darth Vader v. Quinlan Vos, Tholme and T'ra Saa (Dark Times/Clone Wars) Agen Kolar v. Darth Wredd Ulic Qel-Droma (Force) v. Darth Malgus Senya Tirall v. Darth Maul, unarmed martial arts only Exar Kun v. Obi-Wan Kenobi, Saesee Tiin and Adi Gallia Lomi Plo v. An'ya Kuro (just 'cause weird Force shit) And as always... Darth Vectivus v. Master Faye
+Evan Vader proceeds to terminate but Tholme will somehow flee Kolar. Wredd is a dedicated Sith hunter, not a jedi hunter. Wredd's experience is massive, but I don't think his experience makes up the diff. What do you mean by force? As in Dark Lord Ulic? If so, Malgus. > physical and force strength. Like I said before, idk enough on Senya's exact unarmed skills. So for now, Maul idk if Kun can take 3 at once. But he could take Kenobi+Tiin or Kenobi+Adi or Tiin+Adi idk enough on Lomi Vectivus seduces Faye
+Rob George Ulic as in before he's lost his Force connection. And...on the last one, wow. I'm alright with that. +Ki Adi Sandwich I actually do agree with you on Maul for once, I just want to see him unarmed.
Tustle of the Totty, perhaps? :o) I love both these characters - a lot of people find Asajj boring, but shes a tip of the iceberg character to me, mysterious, sinister, sexy but not in an obvious way, theres a lot going on inside her, I think. And the book she was in with Quinlan Voss? Ive listened to a bit of it on audiobook and I thought it took most of what I liked out of the character, which is a shame. Exal Kresh I only really know about from watching videos like this one, and shes a very cool, quite sympathetic character I think - bit of a lost soul. Anyway! Good stuff, man.
Love your videos. Is there anyone hat would be a solid match up against Plum Krel? Only time I’ve seen him is in TCW so I’m not certain who would take him on or what’s available on his capabilities, maybe Plum Krel vs Oppo Ranciss? (Apologies if I got the name wrong)
Hey jensaarai i love your videos there frigin awesome you defs make the best starwars lore videos on youtube! But what happened to the sidious vs yoda video and the vader vs yoda video? They were mad but they been taken down? Do you rekon you could make those again or re upload them please? They were my favourites easily the best ones! (Legends only of course)
This is a great video some ideas I would love to see you do in the vs series; Mara Jade Skywalker vs Shaak Ti (Legends only) Galen Marek vs Darth Malgus (Lengends only) Galen Marek vs Asajj Ventress (Legends only) Kao Cen Darach vs Lucien Draay
"Exal Kressh can trace her lineage all the way back to Ludo Kressh" *Me looks at Exal Kressh searches "lewd exal kressh" 10-15 minutes after that exchange back at keyboard* "Yep she sure can trace her lineage to humans somewhere numerous times I am sure!"
I think we should use the term "Pure Legends" because those disney pricks consider TCW as part of legends in general (even though that show contradicts many many things in the EU)
Its weird that TCW is both Disney Canon and Legends. Before the Old Eu was tossed out Lucasfilm was going to resolve the contradictions but never got the chance. The way I see it with the show is that TCW didn't happen in the exact way the show depicted things or some of it was true and some of it was false. For example the Episode with Evan Piell did happen , but it was propaganda that he died. that way his death in Coruscant Nights could still work out. I don't know though, Maybe TCW should just be purged entirely from Legends.
I think Jin, even with Draay’s hybridization of Shii-Cho and Djem So, Jin is better trained and after seeing how he handled Maul, It’s just a matter of time. Draay is strong but not close to Maul’s level
I guess, but it's still pre Disney & therefore archived by Lucas. I think her appearance & representation was enjoyable. Maybe not his 'perfect' ideal of her but come on, I dislike the new sequels, but for their horrible execution & lack of believability not because they didn't make the exact movie I wanted.
marcos targaryen which version of maul? I’m asking because Ashoka was able to hold her own with strong opponents (which might actually include maul since they clashed in the Ashoka novel) like ventress and grevious during the clone wars without any severe or permanent injuries
Sorry, but when you mention that Sith had a more resilient physiology, I think what you mean is "physique" or "anatomy". Phyiosology is how a body WORKS not how it is BUILT. I'd be intrigued, though, in a comparison between the two species, if your time allows. Maybe they do have different phyiologies, after all.
@Wes Bradley-Taubner my post was over two years ago. That said I expected Lumiya to win but I thought Anakin’s apprentice vs Vader’s “apprentice” would have been an interesting matchup
Interestingly, in the _TCW_ comic _In Service of the Republic,_ Ventress killed a Jedi in the same way Teneb Kel killed Exal Kressh. See for yourself: readcomiconline.to/Comic/Star-Wars-The-Clone-Wars/Issue-7?id=71253 If anything, Ventress should be rated as a tier 2.5, both in Legends _and_ in Canon. She's stated in _Star Wars Fact File 116_ to be Darth Tyranus' most powerful student. _Star Wars Fact File 108_ clearly states that Mace Windu had to use all his skill to best Ventress. To me, she might not be the very best fighter, but she's _improving._ Just in case you ever wanna use Darth Maul for a Strikezone video, let me be clear about this: Maul should be somewhere between tier 2 to tier 1.5, partly because he had come close to beating Sidious in combat as a teenager, as confirmed in _The Dark Side Sourcebook._ Heck, he came a lot closer to defeating his former master than Mace Windu ever did. Any further info on that duel can be found in _Episode I Journal: Darth Maul_ and _The Wrath of Darth Maul._ Not only that, but his doppelganger was able to bring Vader to his knees after cutting loose. And _TCW_ Maul is _not_ an offensive dervish; Savage Opress is. Besides, after seeing Maul in action, I'd say he's nearly Sidious' equal in lightsaber combat. Meanwhile, wonderful job!
Time for thoughts. 1st, love this matchup and titlecard! I'm fine with this being an abridged breakdowns of Kreesh and Ventress btw. These 2 are extremely similar (in fighter type and thematic) with the main diff is Ventress's superior swordsmanship and Kressh's force abilities (mainly lightsaber destroying lightning). While Kreesh's rage does come off her skill in Juyo, I don't think she actually has skill in Juyo due to the technical demands and instead her Juyo like traits are due to her mental instability. In force abilities, I agree about Kreesh's active def and overall advantage, but I don't agree her force power being => to Ventress. Teneb Kell's force power is top tier knightish, while Ventress is council master level. No complaints about the verdict because my thoughts are the same. Ventress's dueling skill+ experience+her psyche being less unstable then Kressh. As for you tier breakdown, I very much disagree. For Kressh, I don't see her as a tier 3 duelist, due to her lack of development in skil. Her feats and accolades do not make me consider her tier 3 (like Jerec or Eeth Koth) and instead tier 4. As a force wielder, I again heavily disagree. While her knowledge base is extensive and her potential is great (vitiate did pick as apprentice), she didn't develop herself to that level, especially force power. Instead, I see Kressh (at peak) as a tier 2 force wielder in knowledge+skill, but tier 4-tier 3 in force power (nothing makes me thing her force power is comp to Jerec or Dooku). As for Ventress, I see all of her skills are tier 2.5. My tier 2.5 is basically a tier 2 light (top tier 3-low tier 2 or a blend of tier 2 and 3 characteristics). Physically, her strength is lacking but everything else I see as peak human (her endurance and overall resiliency is def peak human). As a duelist+force weilder, Ventress is a tier 2 held back by lack of development in power+skill (just like Galen Marek) making her a tier 2.5. While I do heavily disagree with your tier breakdown, everything thing else in this video I agree with and did greatly enjoy it. I love these strikezone videos a lot (usually for tier breakdown). Glad to see this matchup came out and looking forward to whats coming next!
I only disagree with the verdict because of Kress approach to combat being dun moch and brutal force lashing. Ventress is a fine duelist sure but we have to stop perpetuating the myth that she's a combat genius. She is repeatedly caught off guard by force powers by jedi even like bariss offee. I don't buy that a full fledged sith lord regardless of sanity wouldn't overpower her. Ventress is no mastermind, she can't bank on a saber duel to win this
Zannah wrecks. Exal's broken sanity is a perfect target for her sorcery and her saber isn't getting past Zannah's defense. About the only thing Exal can do is break her saberstaff with lightning and she probably won't get that far before Zannah reduces her cognitive functions to paste.
I've noticed in your videos that I can tell who you're gonna pick as the winner within the first 5-10 minutes. I think that means you let your bias slip through a bit too much.
+wristofkings ikr. Remember this from your comment chain. Though I heavily disagree that Kreesh is a tier 1.5 force user. Her force power isn't on levels of Dooku or Jerec.
I concur with that. I put her on the level of Galen Marek at most. The saber-destroying lightning is a neat trick, but hardly a trump card against higher-level Force users with better defenses.
Asajj Ventress is one of those characters that has a staggering amount of untapped potential. If she had been trained as a fully-fledged Sith Lord, she would’ve stood head and shoulders above the majority of characters in the mythos. However, even without complete training, Ventress is still a very formidable opponent. And while you argue that she has a vulnerability to strength oriented attack sequences, I actually disagree with this notion. In Dreadnaughts of Rendili, she was able to circumvent and overcome Anakin’s strength advantage, and even managed to strike him across the face. Although Anakin did proceed to overpower her later in that duel, that is not the result of a weakness on Ventress’s part, but more the result of the sheer power that Anakin unleashes whenever he is driven beyond his typical mental state. This was an interesting match-up. While I disagree that Exal can one-shot Ventress, I will not deny that she has a greater wealth of powers at her disposal. Despite having a larger pallet of powers, I do not believe that she holds an advantage against Ventress as a combative Force wielder. Ventress has the ‘I-cannot-lose’ mentality, and much like, say, Darth Maul, she can pull feats out of the bag that are absolutely extraordinary. For example, when Master Faye mentally dominated Ventress, it was noted that Ventress was close to crushing Faye’s heart. Additionally, this feat was performed by Ventress when she was most certainly in the worst possible physical state. If Ventress pulled something like this off against Kressh, there is no hope for the Sith. Anyway, I have a Vs. suggestion for you: Darth Malgus Vs. Darth Traya.
George Lucas sold Star Wars to Disney because it would allow him to deflect fanboy rage from the prequels, the real disappointment of the Star Wars series
at least Exal has better excuse for her descent into madness than Bulq and even at her worst she would still fry him, I am voting a 50/50 split against Ventress
I am currently writing the bios for a three way match up between Darth Maul, Asajj Ventress, and Galen Marek: the orphaned assassins of the Sith. While writing about Ventress’ lightsaber it got me thinking: where did she get the blue crystal from for her Jedi weapon? Because I doubt there were crystal deposits on Rattatak, that left me with only two possibilities. One was that her lightsaber was in fact a spare weapon that belonged to Ky Narec that he passed onto Ventress as part of her Jedi training; thus making Ky Narec at least an occasional user of Jar’Kai. The other possibility is that she made the crystal herself, pouring the Force and her sense of bringing the warlords of Rattatak to justice that resulted in her shining blue blade. What do you guys think? How did Ventress get her blue lightsaber?
And yes, I’m afraid I am using Maul and Ventress from before TCW retconned their stories.
How’s that going?
Very good battle. Kresh is very impressive with her lightning, and if it wasn't for the Emperor I think she would have been able to be on the top tier of the Dark Council.
Well bare in mind she probably gets an amp from not only having a portion of vitiate inside her mind but he personally trained her like imagine having his force potential and getting serious training from Plagleuis or Sidious
The 'short' form of video is getting longer than Jen's OG full length videos.
My sleep hours were dwindling before and now this...
Random Theory:
Could the Duel on Yavin IV between Anakin and Asajj been a contributing factor in the reawakening of Exar Kun's dormant spirit? More specifically the moment when Anakin gives into his rage and Djem So's her arse?
that would be awesome
That is actually quite plausible, interesting theory.
Anakin: *going murder mode on assaj*
Exar kun’s ghost: *watching while eating popcorn.*
I'd like to see a match-up between Darth Malak vs Count Dooku.
Logan Smith I would love that
He did that already: th-cam.com/video/-Ne1bVO4Tz0/w-d-xo.html
Whatever you think it is No, that's Darth Malgus.
Sorry I misread.
Dooku easily
Great video as always. Here are some suggestions for future versus match-ups:
Jaina Solo vs Count Dooku (Legends only)
Darth Krayt vs Mace Windu (Legends only)
Asajj Venress vs Darth Maul (Legends only)
Lucien Draay vs Anakin Skywalker (Legends only
Good match, I'd like to see that one.
Krayt, narrowly.
Maul, handily.
Anakin sweeps.
What do you think of Jaina v Dooku?
REALLY want to see this, I think Jaina ultimately gets him Anakin-style but only barely.
Krayt, moderately but in a really fascinating fight.
Maul, but on the back of physical endurance.
Skywalker. I like what you're going for, but Anakin's on a totally different level.
Either way.
Krayt.
Maul.
Anakin.
I agree. I think Jaina v Dooku is probably the most interesting. Jaina's stats are basically Anakin light, but with greater self control and arguably more intelligent. I think Draay's best chance is to beat Anakin quickly. By this I mean in the first exchange 7 Samurai style. Although I admit this is unlikely. I think another interesting match would be Jaina vs Anakin. It would be an interesting version of brain vs brawn.
No harm in putting out more videos, we'd all prefer it to be honest!
I love how how fast you're cranking these out!! Keep up the great work!
Have you considered using any characters from the legacy era?
How about Cade skywalker vs saba sabastyne?
I'd love to hear your thoughts
Mason Wright He used a couple Legacy characters: Darth Wredd, Darth Maladi (in a collab match).
Mason Wright Cade Skywalker vs Anakin Skywalker?
@@kano5256 Anakin wins that fight.
Had a feeling this was coming, and its out! + A tier breakdown!
What do you think about this?
The Broken Berserkers
Darth Maul vs. Sora Bolq
I find it weird that you haven’t used Darth Maul in a while considering that he’s a character that’s right up your alley. For his comeback video, I think he would make an excellent match for Sora Bolq. I think it would be interesting taking two masters of form 7 and seeing who’s application is better. Maul’s focus or Bolq’s savagery.
Assuming you mean TPM Maul, he takes it over Bulq. They're about equal as duelists from a skill standpoint when both are amped by rage, but Maul is a much smarter fighter with greater physicality and power in the Force.
+wristofkings Disagree on the skill level. As a lightsaber instructer who co-created Vaapad, I see Bulq as a better duelist. But, otherwise I agree on TPM Maul taking this.
I think Bulq wins. Maul doesn't use his force abilities often enough. And I doubt he's much more skilled in that area to even make a difference. And Bulq is skilled enough to defeat him.
Maul
TPM Maul is both the more skilled fighter, and the more masterful Force wielder. He wins, in my opinion.
It's great you've been consistent with videos lately. Keep it up man, no matter i agree or disagree i always enjoy this stuff.
Hey man I just wanted to let you know that your choice to refuse Disney cannon coupled with your passionate but logical approach to the videos is what makes your channel so great IMO keep up the good work bro!
John Smith but Clone Wars was created by Lucas and Filloni before Disney...much of the show including getting to see Ventress in action was enjoyable and added world building. Why treat it like Lucas had nothing to do with it?
orphanedhanyou because he didn't he was working on a movie called red tails at the time and because it was Dave philoni who messed up SW mythos w that BS of a show
orphanedhanyou if you want to talk more about it we can do it on a different app
+orphanedhanyou If you watch the TCW DVD features they make it clear that George Lucas was just a creative consultant for the show just like he was with the EU. They also make it clear he did not direct a single episode of the show either.
Exal Kressh I think upper hand period. The old Sith were amazing.
Legends canon, is the ONLY canon that is relevant.
Paul E Dangerously but I am so compelled by whinny bad guys...
Josh Powell-Morris it's not being whiny. It's having something called "emotions" and being conflicted. (P.S: to me, Kylo is the only good thing that came out of the sequels)
It was a joke bashing his TFA persona. I'll agree he was better in TLJ but like most other aspects it is overshadowed by mediocrity that doesn't make me hateful, but apathetic.
@@SpaceMonke99 No really, he was even more pathetic in TLJ. "Let the past die" yet he declares himself Emperor of his Dollar Store Empire, with Tie Fighters, Stormtroopers and all, and now he's putting back together his mask and keeping Vader's. What an inconsistent clusterfuck.
I agree. The new Canon had some good qualities, but they shat on sooo much. The new trilogy shat on fans
Since you're on this Ventress trip, how about pairing her up against Starkiller from The Force Unleashed 2? You could put her up against Galen Marek as well, I guess, but I think the Starkiller matchup might be more entertaining.
Already been done. Galen beat Ventress, I also think Starkiller would beat Ventress
I’d love a remake of your Darth Maul vs Count Dooku video
Austin Ames count dooku
Awesome content jensaarai, have a suggestion would love to see you breakdown anakin skywalker vs maul. that would be epic!
I have a suggestion, Galen Marek vs Asajj Ventress: the betrayed assassins
Jack Murphy Galen.
Yep, Galen isn't nearly as unstable of Kresh, more capable in martial arts, and has even more force techniques at his disposal. It's only a question of how close Galen's victory would be.
Softis Neleris Galen Would wreck ventress easily.
Marek most likely
How about Blademaster Kassim from Path of Destruction vs Phantom Menace Maul? Since TCW Maul took away most of what made him really dangerous might be a good one for you as your distaste for TCW would perhaps give you a less tainted opinion on him.
Kasim.
I have a great versus series idea: Arcann vs Starkiller (galen marek)
Yusuf Rizvi arcann he have more knowledge of the force than galen
Can you please do Galen Marek vs Asajj Ventress
If I could suggest a match, would Count Dooku from Legends against Luke Skywalker from Dark Empire work?
RedRock22Productions count dooku
Pat Miller I’d argue Dark empire Luke as he did manage to keep up with Palpatine in a duel
Luke had help from Leia
True but leia is a skywalker
I disagree If Kenobi was never able to beat Dooku I doubt Luke would
Can you make a video explaining the different Tiers that you mention in your post-mortem analysis?
I don't know what your schedule is like but i was wondering if you could possibly do Darth Krayt vs Count Dooku or Exar Kun.
I imagine Exar as Frodo times 10-20, if the ring could talk to Frodomor harass him.
I already know who he's gonna pick. Asajj will win. Watch. Also idk who to cheer for. I honestly feel bad for both characters. But I'm gonna break the mold here and pull for Kresh cuz hotness lol
@jensarraione
Can you explain the tier system that you use to evaluate their skills please?
- Tier 1 : Complete Mastery. Absolute paragons of the Force. GM Luke, Yoda, Palpatine
- Tier 1.5 : Complete Mastery with minor limitations. The absolute best, though crippling handicaps, age, or overspecialization prevent them from perfection. Dooku, Darth Bane (as of DoE), Darth Vader, Mace Windu, Exar Kun, Kyle Katarn.
- Tier 2 : Advanced Mastery. The top of the High Council for the Jedi Order. Obi Wan, Plo Koon and Shaak Ti. Other examples could be Darth Malgus (by the time of the False Emperor and Onslaught arcs), Darth Marr, Darth Baras, Darth Thanaton, Kao Cen Darach, Corran Horn, Lumiya, Mara Jade Skywalker.
- Tier 2.5 : Advanced Mastery in the making. Anakin Skywalker and arguably DE Luke.
- Tier 3 : Standard Mastery. Lower High Council members, great skilled knights or Sith Apprentices. Kit Fisto, Saesee Tinn, Ki Adi Mundi, Adi Gallia, Eeth Koth, Qui Gon Jinn, Jaden Korr, Cade Skywalker, Galen Marek, Asajj Ventress, Darth Zannah, Darth Maul.
- Tier 4 : Advanced Application. Where most highly skilled masters and knights fall into. Rahm Kota, Luminara Unduli, Quinlan Vos, RoTJ Luke, Rebels Ahsoka Tano, Bultar Swan, AoTC Obi Wan and Anakin (with the latter perhaps being a bit higher).
- Tier 5 : Standard Application. A tad above the regular mold, usually highly skilled Padawans, mid level knights or low level Dark Siders. Aayla Secura, TPM Obi Wan, TCW Ahsoka (Seasons 3-7), Nahdar Vebb, Kanan Jarrus, Cal Kestis, Darth Wredd, Komari Vosa, Savage Opress, Teneb Kel, Kylo Ren.
- Tier 6 : Basic Application. The barebone basics of how to use a lightsaber and the Force. Ezra Bridger (Rebels Season 1-2), Yun, the Petranaki Arena fodder.
- Tier 7 : Basic Knowledge. Younglings and untrained Force users. ANH Luke, Grogu.
TL;DR Watch his Exar Kun vs Darth Maul Post-Mortem video, the first 3 minutes explain how the Fanalysis tier system works.
@@yrooxrksvi7142 thank u
@@HyugaBlood881 You're welcome !
VERY happy to see this fight come to fruition. It's great to see Exal again given the respect she deserves, even if she doesn't end up coming out on top, which I can't disagree with even though I prefer Exal as a character. I could actually see these two maybe getting along, in a strange way--I feel as if they'd respect each other's crazy, in a way few others do.
Some other suggestions for you:
Darth Vader v. Quinlan Vos, Tholme and T'ra Saa (Dark Times/Clone Wars)
Agen Kolar v. Darth Wredd
Ulic Qel-Droma (Force) v. Darth Malgus
Senya Tirall v. Darth Maul, unarmed martial arts only
Exar Kun v. Obi-Wan Kenobi, Saesee Tiin and Adi Gallia
Lomi Plo v. An'ya Kuro (just 'cause weird Force shit)
And as always...
Darth Vectivus v. Master Faye
Evan
Vader smashes.
Kolar.
Not sure.
Maul. C’mon now.
Obi solos.
Not sure.
Once again, not sure.
+Evan
Vader proceeds to terminate but Tholme will somehow flee
Kolar. Wredd is a dedicated Sith hunter, not a jedi hunter. Wredd's experience is massive, but I don't think his experience makes up the diff.
What do you mean by force? As in Dark Lord Ulic? If so, Malgus. > physical and force strength.
Like I said before, idk enough on Senya's exact unarmed skills. So for now, Maul
idk if Kun can take 3 at once. But he could take Kenobi+Tiin or Kenobi+Adi or Tiin+Adi
idk enough on Lomi
Vectivus seduces Faye
+Rob George Ulic as in before he's lost his Force connection. And...on the last one, wow. I'm alright with that.
+Ki Adi Sandwich I actually do agree with you on Maul for once, I just want to see him unarmed.
+Evan search your feelings, you know it to be true.
Rob George
Umm, it’s “search your feelings, you know it to be true”.
Check your sources, next time ( ͡O;╭͜ʖ╮;͡O )
And another great video
How about doing a Shado Vao vs Meetra Surik match-up?
Just had a thought, who'd win Darth Maladi or Jedi Master Tholme
Excellent video. Thank you for your work.
Exal Kressh's power only defeated by her rage Ventress is having fun braking the area with this one.
Tustle of the Totty, perhaps? :o) I love both these characters - a lot of people find Asajj boring, but shes a tip of the iceberg character to me, mysterious, sinister, sexy but not in an obvious way, theres a lot going on inside her, I think. And the book she was in with Quinlan Voss? Ive listened to a bit of it on audiobook and I thought it took most of what I liked out of the character, which is a shame. Exal Kresh I only really know about from watching videos like this one, and shes a very cool, quite sympathetic character I think - bit of a lost soul. Anyway! Good stuff, man.
Like I mentioned you should talk about how ventress character type would in Hannibal like you previously mentioned
"Not God-tier"-Shows Palpatine xD
Love your videos. Is there anyone hat would be a solid match up against Plum Krel? Only time I’ve seen him is in TCW so I’m not certain who would take him on or what’s available on his capabilities, maybe
Plum Krel vs Oppo Ranciss? (Apologies if I got the name wrong)
I think you meaning Pong Krell.
Yeah sorry Pong Krell
Would love to see your thoughts on mace vs doku
Hey jensaarai i love your videos there frigin awesome you defs make the best starwars lore videos on youtube! But what happened to the sidious vs yoda video and the vader vs yoda video? They were mad but they been taken down? Do you rekon you could make those again or re upload them please? They were my favourites easily the best ones! (Legends only of course)
This is a great video some ideas I would love to see you do in the vs series;
Mara Jade Skywalker vs Shaak Ti (Legends only)
Galen Marek vs Darth Malgus (Lengends only)
Galen Marek vs Asajj Ventress (Legends only)
Kao Cen Darach vs Lucien Draay
Mara
Either way
Galen
Lucien
Jensaarai1's versus series is still quality stuff.
Darth Zannah vs Shaak Ti, please!
already been done
Wow this ended up better than I thought
Expecting a Ventress victory.
Called it. I’d like to possibly see a fight with RotJ Luke or Kyle Katarn
I know you’re only into classic legends EU, but are there any characters you prefer the canon version of so far?
Good versus, but you slept on Exal.
MaestroKenobi He didn't have anything else for a bed.
I'd sleep on Exal
Alex Ramirez always
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"Exal Kressh can trace her lineage all the way back to Ludo Kressh" *Me looks at Exal Kressh searches "lewd exal kressh" 10-15 minutes after that exchange back at keyboard* "Yep she sure can trace her lineage to humans somewhere numerous times I am sure!"
Darth Baras vs Anakin, Nihl, Ulic Qel Droma or Dooku
Hey Jensaarai who do u think would win Vitiate or Sidious?
Grigory Fazz force only lord vitiate saber only lord sidious
Antares Draco vs Kas’im. Galen Marek vs Antares Draco. Azlyn Rae vs Siri Tachi. Arryn lenner vs Siri Tachi.
What about:
Aurra Sing vs Darth Nihl?
The Jedi hunting ambush predator pale skin dark siders?
Obi-wan Kenobi vs Exar kun if you please
:( you still haven't done one with LowBacca :(
You should do some non-force users like Durge vs Boba Fett, I bet everybody would like to see some thing like that.
I would love to see something Darth Ceadus and Mace Windu honestly.
Ive been waiting for the Epic Clash of the Ancient Nieman combat specialists... Kun vs. Krayt!
+Ben Luis Ive discussed this matchup many times. Krayt in an asspull.
@@robgeorge4581 Exactly!
Echuu Shen Jon (because he is OP in Star Wars Galactic Battle Grounds) vs Mace Windu
Exal Kresh vs Lord Odion or Raana Tey
Ventress vs Bulq, Ventress vs Darth Talon or Ventress vs Rahm Kota
I think we should use the term "Pure Legends" because those disney pricks consider TCW as part of legends in general (even though that show contradicts many many things in the EU)
Its weird that TCW is both Disney Canon and Legends. Before the Old Eu was tossed out Lucasfilm was going to resolve the contradictions but never got the chance. The way I see it with the show is that TCW didn't happen in the exact way the show depicted things or some of it was true and some of it was false. For example the Episode with Evan Piell did happen , but it was propaganda that he died. that way his death in Coruscant Nights could still work out. I don't know though, Maybe TCW should just be purged entirely from Legends.
still gonna try here: Lucien Draay, The Jedi Fanatic V.S Qui-Gon Jinn, The Jedi Maverick
I think Jin, even with Draay’s hybridization of Shii-Cho and Djem So, Jin is better trained and after seeing how he handled Maul, It’s just a matter of time. Draay is strong but not close to Maul’s level
I agree that Ventress would win.
But I don't know your reasons. Why didn't you include anything from the "The Clone Wars" version of Ventress?
she's nerfed and she isn't a rattataki or whatever the name was
and he has a soft spot for Ventress or something
I guess, but it's still pre Disney & therefore archived by Lucas. I think her appearance & representation was enjoyable. Maybe not his 'perfect' ideal of her but come on, I dislike the new sequels, but for their horrible execution & lack of believability not because they didn't make the exact movie I wanted.
what about ahsoka tano ( rebels ) vs darth maul
marcos targaryen which version of maul? I’m asking because Ashoka was able to hold her own with strong opponents (which might actually include maul since they clashed in the Ashoka novel) like ventress and grevious during the clone wars without any severe or permanent injuries
Jake Alter the episode 1 version
You shouldn't mix canon and Legends tbh. Not that Jen would cover something from new canon since he hates it ( who can blame him? ).
marcos targaryen I’d say Ashoka since she did survive a duel with Vader
But remember this is Canon Vader who's far weaker then Legends Vader by scaling if not by feats.
Kressh vs Jerec?
All it would take is one Force destruction and Kressh is dead and Kressh leaves herself open frequently
finally!! i feel like assajj always gets destroyed because of her lack of training (thanks dooku) BTW legends asajj will always be my canon
Who are Tier 1 in the Star Wars saga?
The most powerful characters are Luke and Sidious. There's a gap between them and the next most powerful combatants after that.
Luke, Sidious, Yoda, Valkorion, mace windu
Well, Yoda is
Reborn Sidious and Grand Master Luke? What about tier 2?
T1
Reborn Sidious/GM Luke.
T2
Darth Plaguies/Darth Krayt/Vitiate/Yoda/Caedus.
Darth Malgus vs Lord Hoth
Uliq Qel Droma vs Sedriss
Revan VS Anakin Skywalker or Starkiller
Reavn vs Yoda
Tevin Daniels Go to Antoine Bandele’s channel
Tevin Daniels yoda would most likely win since he was able to hold his own against the most powerful Sith Lord in history (aka Darth Sidious)
Yoda.
Ventress needs to close the distance quickly to win
Kit Fisto Vs Lucien Draay (Battle of Determination) 👌👌👌
Draay.
Fisto obviously. Draay can't even parry a strike from Sidious.
Darth sidious vs Darth krayt
i member so basically Darth Sidious then
Sidious.
Krayt beats ROTS Sidious.
Perhaps.
William Henning Krayts performace against Abeloth>>>>>>Sidious's victory against Yoda
Ventress obliterates i think. Too strong, too fast and too skilled. I congratulate you though. A nice video as usual.
Sorry, but when you mention that Sith had a more resilient physiology, I think what you mean is "physique" or "anatomy". Phyiosology is how a body WORKS not how it is BUILT. I'd be intrigued, though, in a comparison between the two species, if your time allows. Maybe they do have different phyiologies, after all.
No I don't know you're reasons, please elaborate
Lumiya vs ahsoka
@Wes Bradley-Taubner my post was over two years ago. That said I expected Lumiya to win but I thought Anakin’s apprentice vs Vader’s “apprentice” would have been an interesting matchup
Interestingly, in the _TCW_ comic _In Service of the Republic,_ Ventress killed a Jedi in the same way Teneb Kel killed Exal Kressh. See for yourself: readcomiconline.to/Comic/Star-Wars-The-Clone-Wars/Issue-7?id=71253
If anything, Ventress should be rated as a tier 2.5, both in Legends _and_ in Canon. She's stated in _Star Wars Fact File 116_ to be Darth Tyranus' most powerful student. _Star Wars Fact File 108_ clearly states that Mace Windu had to use all his skill to best Ventress. To me, she might not be the very best fighter, but she's _improving._
Just in case you ever wanna use Darth Maul for a Strikezone video, let me be clear about this:
Maul should be somewhere between tier 2 to tier 1.5, partly because he had come close to beating Sidious in combat as a teenager, as confirmed in _The Dark Side Sourcebook._ Heck, he came a lot closer to defeating his former master than Mace Windu ever did. Any further info on that duel can be found in _Episode I Journal: Darth Maul_ and _The Wrath of Darth Maul._ Not only that, but his doppelganger was able to bring Vader to his knees after cutting loose.
And _TCW_ Maul is _not_ an offensive dervish; Savage Opress is. Besides, after seeing Maul in action, I'd say he's nearly Sidious' equal in lightsaber combat.
Meanwhile, wonderful job!
DarthWill3 Savage Opress nearly equal to Sidious as a duelist??? Very interesting opinion.
I meant Maul, dummy!
DarthWill3 That I would agree with
Subversion tactics? What is she Rian Johnson?
0:44, so... essentially you made a video just to make a video?
... Why?
Time for thoughts. 1st, love this matchup and titlecard! I'm fine with this being an abridged breakdowns of Kreesh and Ventress btw. These 2 are extremely similar (in fighter type and thematic) with the main diff is Ventress's superior swordsmanship and Kressh's force abilities (mainly lightsaber destroying lightning).
While Kreesh's rage does come off her skill in Juyo, I don't think she actually has skill in Juyo due to the technical demands and instead her Juyo like traits are due to her mental instability.
In force abilities, I agree about Kreesh's active def and overall advantage, but I don't agree her force power being => to Ventress. Teneb Kell's force power is top tier knightish, while Ventress is council master level.
No complaints about the verdict because my thoughts are the same. Ventress's dueling skill+ experience+her psyche being less unstable then Kressh.
As for you tier breakdown, I very much disagree.
For Kressh, I don't see her as a tier 3 duelist, due to her lack of development in skil. Her feats and accolades do not make me consider her tier 3 (like Jerec or Eeth Koth) and instead tier 4. As a force wielder, I again heavily disagree. While her knowledge base is extensive and her potential is great (vitiate did pick as apprentice), she didn't develop herself to that level, especially force power. Instead, I see Kressh (at peak) as a tier 2 force wielder in knowledge+skill, but tier 4-tier 3 in force power (nothing makes me thing her force power is comp to Jerec or Dooku).
As for Ventress, I see all of her skills are tier 2.5. My tier 2.5 is basically a tier 2 light (top tier 3-low tier 2 or a blend of tier 2 and 3 characteristics). Physically, her strength is lacking but everything else I see as peak human (her endurance and overall resiliency is def peak human). As a duelist+force weilder, Ventress is a tier 2 held back by lack of development in power+skill (just like Galen Marek) making her a tier 2.5.
While I do heavily disagree with your tier breakdown, everything thing else in this video I agree with and did greatly enjoy it. I love these strikezone videos a lot (usually for tier breakdown). Glad to see this matchup came out and looking forward to whats coming next!
And Starkiller and Galen Marek vs Luke Skywalker and Luke Skywalker. The True and Fakes.
I only disagree with the verdict because of Kress approach to combat being dun moch and brutal force lashing. Ventress is a fine duelist sure but we have to stop perpetuating the myth that she's a combat genius. She is repeatedly caught off guard by force powers by jedi even like bariss offee. I don't buy that a full fledged sith lord regardless of sanity wouldn't overpower her. Ventress is no mastermind, she can't bank on a saber duel to win this
exal kressh vs darth zannah
Zannah wrecks. Exal's broken sanity is a perfect target for her sorcery and her saber isn't getting past Zannah's defense. About the only thing Exal can do is break her saberstaff with lightning and she probably won't get that far before Zannah reduces her cognitive functions to paste.
wristofkings I really think she’s underrated this makes her Second video almost top-notch force powers But she can’t win very underrated
+wristofkings My thoughts are the same. Zannah by mind rape unless Kressh opens with lightning and goes straight for kill.
Maul vs Ventress
Yeah
I've noticed in your videos that I can tell who you're gonna pick as the winner within the first 5-10 minutes. I think that means you let your bias slip through a bit too much.
Darth Caedus v. Darth NoxLumiya v. DookuJaina Solo v. Darth MalgusMeetra Surik v. Darth Krayt
Caedus.
Either way.
Jaina.
Krayt.
YAAAAAS
+wristofkings ikr. Remember this from your comment chain. Though I heavily disagree that Kreesh is a tier 1.5 force user. Her force power isn't on levels of Dooku or Jerec.
I concur with that. I put her on the level of Galen Marek at most. The saber-destroying lightning is a neat trick, but hardly a trump card against higher-level Force users with better defenses.
Ventress beats Kressh.
Asajj Ventress is one of those characters that has a staggering amount of untapped potential. If she had been trained as a fully-fledged Sith Lord, she would’ve stood head and shoulders above the majority of characters in the mythos.
However, even without complete training, Ventress is still a very formidable opponent. And while you argue that she has a vulnerability to strength oriented attack sequences, I actually disagree with this notion.
In Dreadnaughts of Rendili, she was able to circumvent and overcome Anakin’s strength advantage, and even managed to strike him across the face. Although Anakin did proceed to overpower her later in that duel, that is not the result of a weakness on Ventress’s part, but more the result of the sheer power that Anakin unleashes whenever he is driven beyond his typical mental state.
This was an interesting match-up. While I disagree that Exal can one-shot Ventress, I will not deny that she has a greater wealth of powers at her disposal. Despite having a larger pallet of powers, I do not believe that she holds an advantage against Ventress as a combative Force wielder. Ventress has the ‘I-cannot-lose’ mentality, and much like, say, Darth Maul, she can pull feats out of the bag that are absolutely extraordinary.
For example, when Master Faye mentally dominated Ventress, it was noted that Ventress was close to crushing Faye’s heart. Additionally, this feat was performed by Ventress when she was most certainly in the worst possible physical state. If Ventress pulled something like this off against Kressh, there is no hope for the Sith.
Anyway, I have a Vs. suggestion for you: Darth Malgus Vs. Darth Traya.
Malgus stomps Traya
+Tactical Sharkz My thoughts are the same. However, Traya's tactics does give her a really good shot of pulling it off so this isn't a stomp.
+Rob George More like Traya tries to play a game of chess, and Malgus hacks the chessboard apart.
+Evan Sounds about right.
George Lucas sold Star Wars to Disney because it would allow him to deflect fanboy rage from the prequels, the real disappointment of the Star Wars series
I think the verdict is wrong
Why ?
at least Exal has better excuse for her descent into madness than Bulq and even at her worst she would still fry him, I am voting a 50/50 split against Ventress