You think you can do one of these match ups? Quinlan Vos vs. Darth Maul, Starkiller clone (or Galen Marek) vs. Darth Krayt, or Starkiller clone (or Galen Marek) vs Anakin Skywalker
Antoine Bandele thanks for sending me the link. I can't believe I couldn't find it earlier. The match up was really cool. I also really like the theme music in the beginning and end credits. Do you think you could send me a link to that music?
@@gustavserrander9268 Sora got disrespected. He went toe to toe with 2 of the greatest duelist of all time in Windu and Dooku and was said to be equal to them, losing out due to force powers. Cao has no feats except death
Rob Da 5 8 no feats? He literally was the first to fight a sith in centuries, then as he told his padawan to retreat, he continued to fight both of the sith head on, ended up killing one of them, but lost to the apprentice after his stamina ran out, and really can you blame him for losing against DARTH FRICKING MALGUS?
Kao Cen Darach versus Vindican and Malgus in SWTOR intro is one of my favorite lightsaber fights. It was too bad that Vindican and Kao died in it, they seemed like very interesting characters.
@@KumaoftheForest A fresh Kao Cen Darach vs "Return" era Malgus is definitely a win for the Zabrak Battlemaster. Any other version of Malgus however . . .
Something I love about your breakdowns is that you always emphasize that Bulq is a capable tactician and organizer outside of personal combat, but once he enters a fight he’s a bloodthirsty berserker.
I never thought about Niman the way u did. 18:40 thats like mma is. Best explanation and set up out of all ur vids. I love ur show man. Thank You so much for all of this.
After watching this video I was reminded of Mace Windu, and another innovative Jedi in Star Wars Lore; albeit a philosophical innovator rather than a martial one: Kyle Katarn. A duel between WIndu and Katarn would be an interesting match-up, because with all their powers, skills, experience, tactics, personalities, philosophies, convictions, mentalities, and abilities leave no clear winner. The Aggressive Mavericks: Mace WIndu vs. Kyle Katarn.
I know its an old comment, but I would definitely love to see that too. Both mace and kyle are sort of the black sheep of the jedi with one in terms of lightsaber combat the other with the use of the force. I really hope jensaarai1 or the others see this suggestion too.
@@raicattivo Just like how Windu would have trouble against a blademaster like Dooku, Katarn would give Windu a hard time because he'll never be able to get going & he would have to get creative if he wants a real chance. I think shatterpoint could give him an edge though. I'd still wager that Katarns versatility would be enough to win the day. Maybe katarn wins 6/10 times.
Add me to the list of people who hate the bad rap Niman gets. My Sith Lord on SWTOR is an Exar Kun-style Niman master, after all. Actually, I think Kao Cen Darach is a far better poster boy for Niman than Exar Kun. Exar Kun did use it, but his application of Force abilities still generally fell into the "blunt instrument" usage, whereas Darach personified the seamless integration of powers into lightsaber sequences that Niman is known for, in addition to his versatility and unpredictability displayed in his fight scene. If only they gave him a side comic or something, because I would have loved to see more of that guy!
I'm with you man, Niman does have a bad rap due to how difficult it is to master, but once mastered could make it's practitioner a master of everything and know how to use the options provided by the form. It's a jack of all trades form with the potential to make anyone with the dedication and will to put the effort into it a massive threat to their enemies
I think Niman is a lot like Juyo in that it should be very different because of who could be using it. The differences in Niman users like Darth Krayt, Durach, and Exar Kun are a good example of this.
I agree that Niman gets a bad rap but I think the problem is is that so many niman practitioners only use the diplomatic version the Darth plagues version becomes where all the prominent swordsmen use other forms and forget how skilled a true master of the other two versions can be because no one uses the other two versions the Darth krayt and kao cen darach versions
@@thepancakespy2355 agreed. Pretty much like Terrell said, niman is alot like juyo it can be very different depending on the user and how not just skilled they are but innovative and versatile they can be. Darth krayt and cao cen durach are definitely two characters that I think personify that well.
I really hope we'll get more material regarding Cao Sen Darach in the future from the writers, he's an evident master swordsman with a powerful grasp on The Force, but what are his accolades and past accomplishments? From what little we have of his background, we see his ideas often clashed with the Jedi Council, this seems like a potential story of it's own, not to mention the minor hint of his newly awakened Clairvoyance adding to a still blossoming potential within him, while we may never see the full extend of that ability as his death would impede such progress, it *Does* posite that Cao may have a minor touch with the more esoteric mysteries of The Force itself, maybe something that could be added to a possible backstory?
Extremely well done and researched. The level of depth was astounding and the information well presented. You have definitely opened my eyes to the true versatility of Niman, as it is now my favorite lightsaber form next to Soresu and Makashi.
***** Post 22:17-I think you're right on with this wish. I think the bad rap that the form has received due to the Jedi that fell at Geonosis was not to illustrate the weakness of the form, but to illustrate the weakness of the Jedi just before Palpatine set the perfect Jedi-trap that was the Clone Wars. The fact that so many Jedi fell reflected what Yoda finally realized in the ROTS novelization; the Jedi had spent too much time prepping themselves to fight the last war and not the next one. He felt the Sith would return in the same manner and the Jedi had become complacent waiting for that return. Had the Jedi heeded the warning that was Maul's appearance 10 years previous at Naboo, there would have been more battle-ready masters but sadly, they chose to take the incorrect mindset of "wait and see". I think Niman can lend itself to weakness if it's just used as a "hobby" technique by Consulars who are more interested in the study of the Force. However, I think the expanded universe has gone a very long way to rehab the image of the form since it's debut in 2002 with dueling powerhouses like Exar Kun, Palpatine and Darach utilizing it to great effect. Personally, any sword-being worth their salt should have built a regular Niman practice into their lightsaber sequence just based on the fact that it did lend itself to giving options in a fight, but it would also teach a being how to chain force-attacks into their sequence, let alone how to use duel blades. The fact that it can train a duelist into thinking of unconventional counters is completely invaluable into reaching the higher levels of saber mastery in this universe. To me, any being who picks up a lightsaber and neglects the study of Niman into their practice is basically setting the clock to a countdown to destruction.
Touche'. I'll concede there was a bit of a rhetorical flourish in my closing there. I was on a roll and probably should have reeled myself in a bit. But you hit the nail on the head when it comes to something that i've always referred to as a beings' "home form" or "backbone" form. I had a kung fu instructor once impress upon me this maxim when learning a fighting form: "Don't be like your favorite teacher. Be like all of them." What he meant by that was, even there are elements in your teachers/fellow students sequences that you don't like, you can still learn it as a cautionary tale or still finding a way of incorporating something that works into your own sequence. Mixing and matching all of your influences to create a standard form for yourself while maintaining a foundation in one form that you can fall back to in a pinch. In my opinion, if I lived in that universe I'd opt for a home form of Soresu paired with Vaapad with a little bit of Niman thrown in for good measure would make a being incredibly difficult to defeat. Especially if they're chaining-in Force Attacks into their Lightsaber sequence. I think near-mastery of Niman (since its nigh-impossible to truly master) would give a duelist a grab bag of abilities to pull when needed if Soresu/Vaapad wasn't doing the trick. As also understanding how you'd apply the different forms into your sequence based on your approach is incredibly important. For example; Makashi blade control, Ataru slashes/body as a weapon mentality, Shien blast-deflection Shii-Cho randomness, Sokan for situational awareness, Force Attacks, Duel blade work, etc. etc. And I think what it comes down to is getting people on the same page of seeing the power/equality of Niman to the other forms. I'm really curious to see how they adapt the forms for the new films. Do we know who the new fight coordinator is? Or are they going with Gillard again?
He said in a different video (I believe it was Durach v Zallow) that he believed the fight would have resolved "very differently" had fatigue not been an issue.
No he would not be able to. Yes darach became fatigued, but you also have to remember that this was far from Malgus at his prime. Malgus was a mere apprentice at the time and improved significantly as a Sith Lord.
Niman is a style that gets dumped on a lot. Jensaarai it is nice to see someone really credit Niman as a good and useful style. Niman is Adaptable and Flexible NOT a piece of crap that tries to do everything but gets nothing right. I to hope that Kao Cen Darach gets recognized as a Niman master. To have someone finely show what Niman can do when use by a master. P.S. Jensaarai Thank you for all your great videos. You breathed new life in to Star Wars for me.
mojosilver82 I didn't know that a lot of people thought niman was so good. If I had to choose which lightsaber froms I would use I would use Niman backed up by Soresu and Djem So
Sorry I would actually use it hybridisation of the ones I mentioned. In terms off tactics I would use Niman's adaptability and Soresu's defense to be able to adept and defend against any threat. I would use the quick parties and aggressive strikes of Djem So with the versatility and unpredictably of Niman
While I do think niman is a good style. I will admit it has flaws to. It just pisses me off that it is thought of as a bad style not worth learning. The other styles focus on one thing, or one way of doing something. And while it can make them more predicable. It also means there better at that thing then anyone else. But niman use a little bit of everything. It does not do anything better then the other styles and that is one of it's weakness. (That and dummies use the emphasis on moderation to mean they only need a moderate amount of practice to make this style work.) But you have more way to respond. And even that is as much a strength as it is a weakness. More options is not always a good thing. In a fight the other styles will quickly do what there train to do. Where a niman user will need to think about what's happening, then think about how to responded, then act. Niman practitioner's need intuition, improvisation, and creativity in combat. Rather than the rote responses the other forms rely on. Now after all that said, if I was a jedi (actually I'd probably be a sith) I would learn soresu first. Then niman. That way I'd always have a solid soresu defense to fall back on while I deiced how best to respond. And niman would be my omniweapon to respond however I need to.
Dragon XL Gaming I think form six and five are easily the best. They seem to be the more versatile. You've got everything covered. Blast deflection, strength orientated dueling covered by form 5 then you have a bit of skill in all forms with niman along with unarmed combat, fluid transition into telekinetic strikes and duel wielding covered by form six. Soreso is a bit too specialised and passive for me. I'd prefer quick counters and sending blaster bolts back at the enemy with form five to get the fight over with quickly.
The main issue with Niman is that is heavily based on the user itself. The user of him or herself needs to be able to recognize situations and adapt their lightsaber style accordingly. That is why Niman usually has a bad rep, most people just learn it for its stereotypical 'jack of all trades' trait. Whereas the true purpose of Niman is to be flexible and adapt accordingly. That is why few practitioners of Niman have found success. A lot of it is based on experience and natural talent and awareness in anticipating your opponent's moves. Think about it, Niman is usually only useful if you can read your opponent well during combat. Since Niman users have studied every form, in theory, they should know the general sequences their opponent uses. However, situations on the battlefield change, unpredictable force power integration, uncommon maneuvers, and acrobatics are performed to apply pressure and confuse your opponent. Experience in real-life combat goes a long way for Niman. At least, that's what I think. Although, you do occasionally get the outrageous prodigy who can utilize the form to its epitome like Revan and Exar Kun. Niman shouldn't be a standard form that is instructed like in the Clone Wars era Jedi. It should be like how it was in the Old Republic. Something for Jedi Masters that have mastered their desire form to the highest level already. Niman has no purpose if your base fundamentals are crap, as you need to be good enough to fight whilst staying level headed and reading your opponent. If you can't even do that, then Niman is useless.
This was a good video, well worth the wait. Though I disagree with you on one point. Yes Darach has knowledge of all 7 forms but this is different than actually using all 7 in combat. His moves are very flamboyant and acrobatic, incorporating Force powers in them. Long story short, I agree more with your earlier assessment of Darach
Awesome video! Could you check out my first Star Wars character verses? I have pitted General Grievous against General Krell, 4 light sabers against 2 double-bladed light sabers! Check it out here: General Grievous vs Pong Krell
Love the new intro. I'm really impressed. I had no idea on how far Kao's skills had gone! He must've been VERY good. And yeah, he could defeat Sora in a duel. If you're so into Niman, why not bring in more of its practitioners into your Versus Series: Darth Krayt, Johun Othone, Kas'im, and Cin Drallig.
I’d want Kit Fisto, if you can maintain a sense of humor even while in the midst of battle, it’d put me at ease, also I’d wanna learn Shii-Cho from him: the man who PERFECTED the style like Kenobi did with Soresu
@@KumaoftheForest part of the herd on this one, but id go with Kenobi. He's my personal favorite Jedi in the series and his skills in both combat and tactics I'd really like to learn, admittedly with a hint of djem so in the mix.
Hmm I'm not sure who I would want but it would either be mace windu or kit gusto because water is all over the place and get could be an advantage. I also like k'kruhk for his resilience honestly theres a lot of good options
Well happy 20th Jensaarai1! You, Evan, and GreyJedi are are wonderful in making these hypothetical battles. Now all you guys need is hi-tech computer stuff to make animated battles like the Death Battle series sometimes does. heheh
I'm glad to see you giving some love to Kai Cen Darach. Honestly I love this character ever since the first cinematic of him ame out and I sensed there was more depth to him and your initial analysis of them I thought that you missed the diversity and the skill with which he fights but you got it in this one definitely. II honestly think in a straight up fight from the start he would have been Malgus in Bolq and I don't think it would have been that hard especially with Sora seeing as how he tends to turn off his brain the more angry he gets. I think this would have been recognised fairly early and brought to the point of exploitation even sooner by as skilled a tactician as Cen Darach. I believe that this is a character that you could write novels about his adventures before his end at Korriban and it would be very interesting.
Great analysis as always, and I'm glad that we finally got to see what a true Niman master can do. If your thinking about you're next match up, can I suggest Ki-Adi Mundi Vs. Obi Wan Kenobi.
Read the comments, agree in a way about (all ready) seen characters but... I would like to see MORE from you three (jensaarai, evannova95 and greyjedi91). I loved those lightsaber histories, theories, forms, q&a-s and stuff like that, or you could even spice up these theoretic battles - let people choose the setting of battle: timeline, arena, sides, support, main combatants etc via facebook polling or something like that. Don't get me wrong, I smile every time I see one of your videos uploaded but yet again if it's someone all ready done I watch 1/3 of a video knowing someones stats or 2/3 knowing the stats of both duelists, which sometimes isn't that bad. All in all you have a great thing going and I just wanna see it go for the best. Hope I didn't bore you out of reading all of this :) Apreciate your work and keep them coming. Oh yeah, all most forgot, a battle between general Grievous and Empatajayos Brand crossed my mind while whatching this video, don't know if it's a good idea but anyway... peace.
I just assumed that Niman to be the form used by jedi sages by default in SWTOR. Its a non specialised style which was designed to be open to plentiful force power usage favored by diplomats/negotiators. Given the consular's story-line having a large diplomacy focus and the sages almost complete reliance on force powers it would make sense.
this was a great video, every V.S you make opens new entry's to star wars, showing me events that I never knew took place or happened, theres no book shops or comic stores in my area so a lot of the expanded universe is blank to me
Excellent video. Two points in particular I'd like to make: 1) First thank you so much for giving Form VI its due. I am so fed up of people disrespecting and dismissing it out of hand. 2) One thing I find interesting about Sora's "kark it! I'll just kill everyone" decision was that it happened after his own former apprentice, Mira, was killed. I'm wondering if her death may have catalyzed his fall as prior to that he was still able to pass himself off as the typical serene Jedi Master.
Jensaarai I have noticed a definite centering of your presentations. As Yoda would say: Logically presented your recent videos have been. Gone any hints of fanboyism are. Enjoyable and educational your videos are. Very good work you have done. Stay the way you produce your videos you should. Two thumbs up you deserve and shall receive.
Well done on this one. I would be interested to see some NJO characters honestly. Like maybe Corran Horn, or even Leia as a fully fledged Jedi. I know it will take a lot of time for that, but I am patient.
the thing i like the most about those videos is that styles DO make fights. As a huge MMA fan I love when someone tries to deduce the winner from tactics and strategies instead of pure feats, amazing work. That being said, is there a Jedi or Sith that you find particulary the best in terms of fighting style? Someone that is almost flawless?
***** very interesting opnion. I do agree with most of it, I do believe the Rock, paper scissor mentality is the most correct,but I do believe sometimes despite all odds the rock will put a hole through paper and the scissor will cut the rock. Vader is my favorite fighter also, but I do believe the most complete and overwhelming fighter would be his son Luke Skywalker, because although he lacks the sophistication of his father, the guy is simply amazing at everything, I admire your work a lot, together with the Evannova , Greywolf and Antoinne, you guys do an amazing star wars work, I think I will ask for those 3 the same question I just did just to enjoy the answer
I'm presuming you're saying Vader is the best duelist because of capitalizing on his strength and compensating for his weaknesses like you said, but you don't honestly think he's the best duelist, right?
"The red hue syth-crystals produced more powerful blades, but at the cost of maneuverability and stability." Has there ever been one instance outside of rpg stats that this has ever mattered or been displayed?
***** Interesting. However this seems like one of those more obscure things in the lore that I have to question. Exactly how are Sith style red blades harder to "maneuver" since from what I understand the blades are weightless. How are the they more powerful and unstable, and in what regard? Has there ever been one instance in the lore that red blades could cut something at lest more easily than normal Jedi sabers or if Sith sabers have ever once been shown to randomly malfunction due to being more unstable? Sure it would make since in role playing games were such small details would matter which was why I brought it up, but in the actual lore if they never really demonstrate this I really don't see how it is even relevant. I'm not really questioning yourself specifically on this, just concepts themselves.
Psychonis i'm not the biggest fan of starwars but from time to time i do read random wikia's when i'm bored; i don't know how they were harder to handle, (maybe because the blade plays tricks on your eyes?), but there have been instances, (exceedingly few) where in a lightsaber fight the red short circuited the opponent, but it wasn't much of an issue unless you kept the two blades continuously crossed agains the other for a long while
Psychonis Qordis states that red are significantly more powerful in "Darth Bane A Path of Destruction", i can't find an example where it actually happens though, sorry, as for the "playing tricks on the eyes" bit i mentioned, that was my theory entirely.
Pablo Rius Yeah, that' basically highlights most my issue with it. It seems like something in the lore which is just "there" and really serves no purpose and is never utilized.
Quinlan Vos vs. Darth Maul or Galen Marek (or Starkiller clone) vs Darth Krayt. Also I was afraid that because of kao cen darach's limited appearance would limit his chances. But I was very glad to discover that these fears were because I did not know enough about kao cen darach and also my knowledge of sora bulq was overrated. Nicely done!
Excellent video once again Jensaarai1 and I agree it paints Cen in a much better light then many assume, especially considering he fended off both Sith at the same time. Malgus didn't over power him until he was exhausted, a fresh Cen versus Malgus duel would be a all together different fight from the cinematic trailer's.
I'm making my way through a playlist of all Versus Series and Character Bios from yourself, EvanNova and GreyJedi! I appreciate your time and effort! I have a suggestion: *DARTH KRAYT VS DARTH VADER* After their rivally as Jedi, and their similar fall to the dark side I think this matchup would be interesting. Have a great day!
Congratulations on the Twentieth/Twenty-first episode of the versus series. XD I've been a fan of these and I love that they're still alive and well. Probably not looking for suggestions, but should you ever want one, would you ever consider doing a clone wars/post OT character match up like your Asajj vs Sedriss video again? Maybe with two jedis like Jania Solo vs Ashoka Tano?
I'm not trying to start a flame war or what not but arent the books now invalid? I know when Star Wars was transferred to Disney they classified literature in terms of the games as noncanon but my question is what of the random books?
Disney shifted EVERYTHING, aside from the Movies, their novelizations and the Clone Wars series as canon. Everything else is marked as "Legends" in the eyes of Disney. Everything going forward will go through the Story Group. The first thing that is being added to the main canon is the Son of Dathomir comic books series which was supposed to be a part of the sixth season of the Clone Wars series. After that they are releasing these books in the "main canon": www.starwars.com/news/disney-publishing-worldwide-and-random-house-announce-relaunch-of-star-wars-adult-fiction-line
So the Clone Wars Cartoon Network stuff (albiet lovely to some, ungodly to others) is canon? Just checking because if that's the case... TECHNICALLY Republic Commandos are canon because I recall "Boss" making a minor appearance. Anyways thanks for the info, didn't want to ask Reddit because well... it's fucking reddit. Hopefully the writers took notes on what the original set of authors did in terms of forging decent lore.
Atomic Rebellion You can read more about it here: starwars.com/news/the-legendary-star-wars-expanded-universe-turns-a-new-page.html Or watch their video here: The Star Wars Expanded Universe: Past, Present, and Future
That's like saying the Sam Raimi Spiderman movies are "invalid" because of the newer movies. If people enjoy the books,comics etc then they're as valid as ever. Just set in a different continuity.
darkshadowssonic Niman is good but for me I don't care for it's lack of focused Blade training, if I was a Jedi I would be a Jedi Guardian and would focus greatly upon my sword play. So I would study it but my main style would be either Djem So, or Shien.
+Josh Campbell Djem So/Shien master race. But Niman is a pretty good style because it versatility and is about improvising instead of a normal combat sequence. But my style would consists of mastery of Djem So as the back bone of my style,shien for usage and training of reverse grip and blaster deflection. Then Niman to make up the weaknesses my previous styles and helps chain force abilities.
I personally would use a Juyo combo. If you pay attention to a of Jensaarai's videos, you know Juyo is only used when a person has training in all forms, and specializing in two to even six styles of combat. With that said, no style is the same with Juyo, so I'd use a Makashi/Ataru/Shien mix, becoming basically a jack of all trades.
Spectre the Espeon That would be a difficult combination to master, as Juyo, is so randomized and Makashi is so focused and precise but if it came together it would be devastating.
The armour Darach used may still be a cortosis alloy, since the plates only seem to cover the thighs, shins, lower arms and chest. You can see Malgus's final blow is aimed at the gut rather than the chest.
Why do lightsabers absorb force lightning (Obi-wan vs Dooku Episode II), but they deflect blaster bullets? I assume force lighting is energy just like blaster ammo. I am also not considering Windu vs Sidious considering Windu used his vappad style to redirect the lighting so of course his lightsaber did not absorb it.
Could you do a what if series where you say what you think would have happened if sonething was different in the star wars universe eg-general grievous had the force or anakin killed obi wan on mustafar, if you do consider using this idea then please do the grievous on, thanks :-)
What made you change the order of which you did? Originally, you did lightsaber skills first, then physique, then force abilities, then equipment. Why change that around? Just wondering... Also, after what you've said about Niman, if I were a Jedi, I would practice the styles to further my options in battle.
***** BTW, if Kao Cen Darach went by against Count Dooku, what might be the most likely outcome? Dooku believed that by studying a single form, he could actually outclass a battlemaster. What do you think?
something, I noticed about the Jedi battle armor: it's not so much that the armor can't withstand a full hit, it's WHERE the hit is landing on the armor. In both of the death blows given to Darach and Ven Zallow, the blows fell below the ribcage, where the lightsaber-resistant plates are NOTICABLY ABSENT.
One reason I prefer Jensaarai is that I really enjoy his voice, but obviously not one of the main reasons, because others I've listened to sound like they're falling asleep.
Hey Jensaarai you seem to know a fair about actual historical fencing references, such as the german, italian, french, english schools of swordsmanship and etc. At some point maybe you should make a video contrasting the similarities and inspirations the light-saber forms took from some of these schools. For instance I think Fechten has similarities with Juyo and Mikashi with a bit of Djem-So and Niman. And Kenjutsu has a lot in common with Djem-So, Makashi, and a bit of Soresu. Just a thought.
Jensaarai, you said once that you were going to do 2v2 matchups sometime. Do you think any of these matchups could work? 1. Darth Bane and Darth Zannah vs Exar Kun and Ulic Qel-Droma 2. Kao Cen Durach and Ven Zallow vs Plo Koon and Ahsoka Tano 3. Darth Vindican and Darth Malgus (from the Return trailer) vs Darth Maul and Savage Opress (I know you think they are the worst TCW characters, but it seems pretty obvious that they would lose)
One thing we know now is that even at that point Malgus was one of the best swordsmen of the sith, and was even as an apprentice considered one of the most powerful sith grandmaster Satile Shen had meet, even much later when she had slain a number of strong Sith Lords, so knowing that I think it would be an even better victory for Cao.
it depends on how you fight. I guess. Like jedi guardians usually use lightsabers and consulars usually focus on force usage. I find that force powers will be hard to get off if your being barraged with lightsaber attacks. while a pure lightsaber duelist would have trouble against a dedicated ranged force user via trying to close distance.
+Gavin Sanghera most warrior jedi are dedicatedlightsaber dualists, however the few that do master niman and the creative use of the force that comes with it have been known to be some of the strongest of their ages.
I think since you have done a video about two battle masters you should do a video of two skilled assassins who were nothing more than pawns to their masters Darth Maul vs Assaij Ventress.
Jensaarai, I know that its out of topic but could you tell me how force insanity can one hit kill a target even as a sith master or jedi master? How those it work and how can some one resist it?
i didnt realise myself that Dur'ach (i think thats spelt rite) was such a versatile duelist and force user, i do like the amount of research u put into things
How about a 4 way free for all Darth Bane vs Darth Krayt vs. Darth Malgus vs. Darth Vader. 4 Strong guys that are built like tanks. Let them all beat each other down and see whose the biggest brute. Also, and I'm not trying to tell you how to make your vids, but when you give the verdict I would be very interested on how you think the battle would play out. I know you already do this but I mean maybe a little more in depth detail kind of like Evannova and Antoine Bandele does. Thanks for all the great vids.
So just been wondering I know this is off topic but is it possible for a force sensitive mandolorian to become a sith lord and what would said person even be like
Very good video, extremely well reasoned.
You think you can do one of these match ups?
Quinlan Vos vs. Darth Maul, Starkiller clone (or Galen Marek) vs. Darth Krayt, or
Starkiller clone (or Galen Marek) vs Anakin Skywalker
MultiLeonard1000 Versus Series | Anakin Skywalker vs Galen Marek
Antoine Bandele thanks for sending me the link. I can't believe I couldn't find it earlier. The match up was really cool. I also really like the theme music in the beginning and end credits. Do you think you could send me a link to that music?
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Krayt would whoop Galen's ass.
OMG Antoine Bandele!!!! big fan man!!!!!!!
Excellent, celebrates both characters as well as the very concept of martial arts. This was a pleasure to watch.
I agree with you there
@@gustavserrander9268 Sora got disrespected. He went toe to toe with 2 of the greatest duelist of all time in Windu and Dooku and was said to be equal to them, losing out due to force powers. Cao has no feats except death
Rob Da 5 8 no feats? He literally was the first to fight a sith in centuries, then as he told his padawan to retreat, he continued to fight both of the sith head on, ended up killing one of them, but lost to the apprentice after his stamina ran out, and really can you blame him for losing against DARTH FRICKING MALGUS?
@@smoothily9755 Malgus master was fodder
Rob Da 5 8 ok? And? He still took on both of them
Kao Cen Darach versus Vindican and Malgus in SWTOR intro is one of my favorite lightsaber fights. It was too bad that Vindican and Kao died in it, they seemed like very interesting characters.
I say if it was a fresh Kao Cen Darach vs fresh Malgus, Kao would of won
@@KumaoftheForest A fresh Kao Cen Darach vs "Return" era Malgus is definitely a win for the Zabrak Battlemaster. Any other version of Malgus however . . .
Something I love about your breakdowns is that you always emphasize that Bulq is a capable tactician and organizer outside of personal combat, but once he enters a fight he’s a bloodthirsty berserker.
I never thought about Niman the way u did. 18:40 thats like mma is. Best explanation and set up out of all ur vids. I love ur show man. Thank You so much for all of this.
After watching this video I was reminded of Mace Windu, and another innovative Jedi in Star Wars Lore; albeit a philosophical innovator rather than a martial one: Kyle Katarn.
A duel between WIndu and Katarn would be an interesting match-up, because with all their powers, skills, experience, tactics, personalities, philosophies, convictions, mentalities, and abilities leave no clear winner.
The Aggressive Mavericks: Mace WIndu vs. Kyle Katarn.
I know its an old comment, but I would definitely love to see that too. Both mace and kyle are sort of the black sheep of the jedi with one in terms of lightsaber combat the other with the use of the force. I really hope jensaarai1 or the others see this suggestion too.
The fight could go either way but I would favor Katarn
@@raicattivo Just like how Windu would have trouble against a blademaster like Dooku, Katarn would give Windu a hard time because he'll never be able to get going & he would have to get creative if he wants a real chance. I think shatterpoint could give him an edge though. I'd still wager that Katarns versatility would be enough to win the day. Maybe katarn wins 6/10 times.
Windu may have Shatterpoint but Katarn has lightning and Healing (and Tutaminis and more developed telepathy but that’s irrelevant )
Wish granted. Dimond360 did that matchup on his channel :)
Add me to the list of people who hate the bad rap Niman gets. My Sith Lord on SWTOR is an Exar Kun-style Niman master, after all.
Actually, I think Kao Cen Darach is a far better poster boy for Niman than Exar Kun. Exar Kun did use it, but his application of Force abilities still generally fell into the "blunt instrument" usage, whereas Darach personified the seamless integration of powers into lightsaber sequences that Niman is known for, in addition to his versatility and unpredictability displayed in his fight scene. If only they gave him a side comic or something, because I would have loved to see more of that guy!
I'm with you man, Niman does have a bad rap due to how difficult it is to master, but once mastered could make it's practitioner a master of everything and know how to use the options provided by the form. It's a jack of all trades form with the potential to make anyone with the dedication and will to put the effort into it a massive threat to their enemies
I think Niman is a lot like Juyo in that it should be very different because of who could be using it. The differences in Niman users like Darth Krayt, Durach, and Exar Kun are a good example of this.
it's an haw do I put it. it is a jack of all trade master of none. your no master your just good. I like Niman too.
I agree that Niman gets a bad rap but I think the problem is is that so many niman practitioners only use the diplomatic version the Darth plagues version becomes where all the prominent swordsmen use other forms and forget how skilled a true master of the other two versions can be because no one uses the other two versions the Darth krayt and kao cen darach versions
@@thepancakespy2355 agreed. Pretty much like Terrell said, niman is alot like juyo it can be very different depending on the user and how not just skilled they are but innovative and versatile they can be. Darth krayt and cao cen durach are definitely two characters that I think personify that well.
This style of Versus was actually WAY better than the bulky older videos. Keep it up, sick stuff!
I really hope we'll get more material regarding Cao Sen Darach in the future from the writers, he's an evident master swordsman with a powerful grasp on The Force, but what are his accolades and past accomplishments?
From what little we have of his background, we see his ideas often clashed with the Jedi Council, this seems like a potential story of it's own, not to mention the minor hint of his newly awakened Clairvoyance adding to a still blossoming potential within him, while we may never see the full extend of that ability as his death would impede such progress, it *Does* posite that Cao may have a minor touch with the more esoteric mysteries of The Force itself, maybe something that could be added to a possible backstory?
Extremely well done and researched. The level of depth was astounding and the information well presented. You have definitely opened my eyes to the true versatility of Niman, as it is now my favorite lightsaber form next to Soresu and Makashi.
***** Post 22:17-I think you're right on with this wish. I think the bad rap that the form has received due to the Jedi that fell at Geonosis was not to illustrate the weakness of the form, but to illustrate the weakness of the Jedi just before Palpatine set the perfect Jedi-trap that was the Clone Wars. The fact that so many Jedi fell reflected what Yoda finally realized in the ROTS novelization; the Jedi had spent too much time prepping themselves to fight the last war and not the next one. He felt the Sith would return in the same manner and the Jedi had become complacent waiting for that return. Had the Jedi heeded the warning that was Maul's appearance 10 years previous at Naboo, there would have been more battle-ready masters but sadly, they chose to take the incorrect mindset of "wait and see".
I think Niman can lend itself to weakness if it's just used as a "hobby" technique by Consulars who are more interested in the study of the Force. However, I think the expanded universe has gone a very long way to rehab the image of the form since it's debut in 2002 with dueling powerhouses like Exar Kun, Palpatine and Darach utilizing it to great effect.
Personally, any sword-being worth their salt should have built a regular Niman practice into their lightsaber sequence just based on the fact that it did lend itself to giving options in a fight, but it would also teach a being how to chain force-attacks into their sequence, let alone how to use duel blades. The fact that it can train a duelist into thinking of unconventional counters is completely invaluable into reaching the higher levels of saber mastery in this universe.
To me, any being who picks up a lightsaber and neglects the study of Niman into their practice is basically setting the clock to a countdown to destruction.
Touche'. I'll concede there was a bit of a rhetorical flourish in my closing there. I was on a roll and probably should have reeled myself in a bit.
But you hit the nail on the head when it comes to something that i've always referred to as a beings' "home form" or "backbone" form.
I had a kung fu instructor once impress upon me this maxim when learning a fighting form: "Don't be like your favorite teacher. Be like all of them." What he meant by that was, even there are elements in your teachers/fellow students sequences that you don't like, you can still learn it as a cautionary tale or still finding a way of incorporating something that works into your own sequence. Mixing and matching all of your influences to create a standard form for yourself while maintaining a foundation in one form that you can fall back to in a pinch.
In my opinion, if I lived in that universe I'd opt for a home form of Soresu paired with Vaapad with a little bit of Niman thrown in for good measure would make a being incredibly difficult to defeat. Especially if they're chaining-in Force Attacks into their Lightsaber sequence. I think near-mastery of Niman (since its nigh-impossible to truly master) would give a duelist a grab bag of abilities to pull when needed if Soresu/Vaapad wasn't doing the trick. As also understanding how you'd apply the different forms into your sequence based on your approach is incredibly important. For example; Makashi blade control, Ataru slashes/body as a weapon mentality, Shien blast-deflection Shii-Cho randomness, Sokan for situational awareness, Force Attacks, Duel blade work, etc. etc.
And I think what it comes down to is getting people on the same page of seeing the power/equality of Niman to the other forms. I'm really curious to see how they adapt the forms for the new films. Do we know who the new fight coordinator is? Or are they going with Gillard again?
This video has got me thinking. Would Darach have been able to defeat Malgus, one-on-one, fresh and not exhausted from battling both?
Very likely yes. At this stage anyway.
He said in a different video (I believe it was Durach v Zallow) that he believed the fight would have resolved "very differently" had fatigue not been an issue.
No he would not be able to. Yes darach became fatigued, but you also have to remember that this was far from Malgus at his prime. Malgus was a mere apprentice at the time and improved significantly as a Sith Lord.
While Malgus was an apprentice, more than likely. But if Malgus is in his prime, nope.
I think he probably could have
Seeing this I almost want to see Darach vs Obi Wan.
hey im from the future and jensaarai1 just upload darach vs obi wan, unfortunately you have to wait for another 3 years
Niman is a style that gets dumped on a lot. Jensaarai it is nice to see someone really credit Niman as a good and useful style. Niman is Adaptable and Flexible NOT a piece of crap that tries to do everything but gets nothing right. I to hope that Kao Cen Darach gets recognized as a Niman master. To have someone finely show what Niman can do when use by a master.
P.S. Jensaarai Thank you for all your great videos. You breathed new life in to Star Wars for me.
mojosilver82 I didn't know that a lot of people thought niman was so good. If I had to choose which lightsaber froms I would use I would use Niman backed up by Soresu and Djem So
Sorry I would actually use it hybridisation of the ones I mentioned. In terms off tactics I would use Niman's adaptability and Soresu's defense to be able to adept and defend against any threat. I would use the quick parties and aggressive strikes of Djem So with the versatility and unpredictably of Niman
While I do think niman is a good style. I will admit it has flaws to. It just pisses me off that it is thought of as a bad style not worth learning. The other styles focus on one thing, or one way of doing something. And while it can make them more predicable. It also means there better at that thing then anyone else. But niman use a little bit of everything. It does not do anything better then the other styles and that is one of it's weakness. (That and dummies use the emphasis on moderation to mean they only need a moderate amount of practice to make this style work.) But you have more way to respond. And even that is as much a strength as it is a weakness. More options is not always a good thing. In a fight the other styles will quickly do what there train to do. Where a niman user will need to think about what's happening, then think about how to responded, then act. Niman practitioner's need intuition, improvisation, and creativity in combat. Rather than the rote responses the other forms rely on. Now after all that said, if I was a jedi (actually I'd probably be a sith) I would learn soresu first. Then niman. That way I'd always have a solid soresu defense to fall back on while I deiced how best to respond. And niman would be my omniweapon to respond however I need to.
Dragon XL Gaming I think form six and five are easily the best. They seem to be the more versatile. You've got everything covered. Blast deflection, strength orientated dueling covered by form 5 then you have a bit of skill in all forms with niman along with unarmed combat, fluid transition into telekinetic strikes and duel wielding covered by form six. Soreso is a bit too specialised and passive for me. I'd prefer quick counters and sending blaster bolts back at the enemy with form five to get the fight over with quickly.
The main issue with Niman is that is heavily based on the user itself. The user of him or herself needs to be able to recognize situations and adapt their lightsaber style accordingly. That is why Niman usually has a bad rep, most people just learn it for its stereotypical 'jack of all trades' trait. Whereas the true purpose of Niman is to be flexible and adapt accordingly. That is why few practitioners of Niman have found success. A lot of it is based on experience and natural talent and awareness in anticipating your opponent's moves. Think about it, Niman is usually only useful if you can read your opponent well during combat. Since Niman users have studied every form, in theory, they should know the general sequences their opponent uses. However, situations on the battlefield change, unpredictable force power integration, uncommon maneuvers, and acrobatics are performed to apply pressure and confuse your opponent.
Experience in real-life combat goes a long way for Niman. At least, that's what I think. Although, you do occasionally get the outrageous prodigy who can utilize the form to its epitome like Revan and Exar Kun. Niman shouldn't be a standard form that is instructed like in the Clone Wars era Jedi. It should be like how it was in the Old Republic. Something for Jedi Masters that have mastered their desire form to the highest level already. Niman has no purpose if your base fundamentals are crap, as you need to be good enough to fight whilst staying level headed and reading your opponent. If you can't even do that, then Niman is useless.
Damn dude it has been TOO long, these things are awesome!
This was a good video, well worth the wait.
Though I disagree with you on one point. Yes Darach has knowledge of all 7 forms but this is different than actually using all 7 in combat. His moves are very flamboyant and acrobatic, incorporating Force powers in them. Long story short, I agree more with your earlier assessment of Darach
... Being an Ataru specialist and occasionally incorporating elements of Niman into his technique. Either way this was still a good video.
Awesome video! Could you check out my first Star Wars character verses? I have pitted General Grievous against General Krell, 4 light sabers against 2 double-bladed light sabers! Check it out here: General Grievous vs Pong Krell
Excelent video, i am always looking forward to these.
Would like to suggest Darth Revan vs Quinlan Vos or Ki Adi Mundi vs Githany
(or Revan Vs Nihilus)
Love the new intro.
I'm really impressed. I had no idea on how far Kao's skills had gone! He must've been VERY good.
And yeah, he could defeat Sora in a duel.
If you're so into Niman, why not bring in more of its practitioners into your Versus Series: Darth Krayt, Johun Othone, Kas'im, and Cin Drallig.
Great video I make make sure to watch everything you release. It feels like an age since I have got the pleasure of watching a new video from you.
Master of none?? He is a freaking Jedi battleMASTER!!! LOL
great video dude! Love these two and glad my fav of them won!
Kao can darach I think would be the one jedi I would choose to stand beside me in a war zone :')
I’d want Kit Fisto, if you can maintain a sense of humor even while in the midst of battle, it’d put me at ease, also I’d wanna learn Shii-Cho from him: the man who PERFECTED the style like Kenobi did with Soresu
@@KumaoftheForest part of the herd on this one, but id go with Kenobi. He's my personal favorite Jedi in the series and his skills in both combat and tactics I'd really like to learn, admittedly with a hint of djem so in the mix.
I would go with Agen Kolar, his natural strength and his mastery of Ataru would be really good to fight alongside.
Hmm I'm not sure who I would want but it would either be mace windu or kit gusto because water is all over the place and get could be an advantage. I also like k'kruhk for his resilience honestly theres a lot of good options
Anakin Skywalker, Revan, Luke Skywalker, Plo Koon, Ashoka or Kenobi.
Glad to see your still making videos. Welcome back. Enjoyed it as always.
Well happy 20th Jensaarai1! You, Evan, and GreyJedi are are wonderful in making these hypothetical battles. Now all you guys need is hi-tech computer stuff to make animated battles like the Death Battle series sometimes does. heheh
Glad to see your still doing these. Great videos.
An Intense Fight Indeed. Lightsaber would flash burn and cut all over the place. Very Well done Jensaarai
Appreciate the deep nerdiness bro. Nice one, coulnt agree more, you didn't slip up. Was waiting for it lol
I'm glad to see you giving some love to Kai Cen Darach. Honestly I love this character ever since the first cinematic of him ame out and I sensed there was more depth to him and your initial analysis of them I thought that you missed the diversity and the skill with which he fights but you got it in this one definitely. II honestly think in a straight up fight from the start he would have been Malgus in Bolq and I don't think it would have been that hard especially with Sora seeing as how he tends to turn off his brain the more angry he gets. I think this would have been recognised fairly early and brought to the point of exploitation even sooner by as skilled a tactician as Cen Darach. I believe that this is a character that you could write novels about his adventures before his end at Korriban and it would be very interesting.
Great analysis as always, and I'm glad that we finally got to see what a true Niman master can do. If your thinking about you're next match up, can I suggest Ki-Adi Mundi Vs. Obi Wan Kenobi.
Obiwan wins, it’d be an interesting match but I don’t think Mundi could break Kenobi’s defense
Read the comments, agree in a way about (all ready) seen characters but...
I would like to see MORE from you three (jensaarai, evannova95 and greyjedi91).
I loved those lightsaber histories, theories, forms, q&a-s and stuff like that, or you could even spice up these theoretic battles - let people choose the setting of battle: timeline, arena, sides, support, main combatants etc via facebook polling or something like that. Don't get me wrong, I smile every time I see one of your videos uploaded but yet again if it's someone all ready done I watch 1/3 of a video knowing someones stats or 2/3 knowing the stats of both duelists, which sometimes isn't that bad. All in all you have a great thing going and I just wanna see it go for the best.
Hope I didn't bore you out of reading all of this :) Apreciate your work and keep them coming. Oh yeah, all most forgot, a battle between general Grievous and Empatajayos Brand crossed my mind while whatching this video, don't know if it's a good idea but anyway... peace.
I just assumed that Niman to be the form used by jedi sages by default in SWTOR.
Its a non specialised style which was designed to be open to plentiful force power usage favored by diplomats/negotiators. Given the consular's story-line having a large diplomacy focus and the sages almost complete reliance on force powers it would make sense.
+Sagnus1 I would completely agree with you in that. I do wish that the Jedi Knights were granted access to any of the Forms they wanted in the game.
Same with Cal Kestis from Jedi Fallen Order
this was a great video, every V.S you make opens new entry's to star wars, showing me events that I never knew took place or happened, theres no book shops or comic stores in my area so a lot of the expanded universe is blank to me
The music at the beginning of the video was from Kung Fu Panda lol. Love the melody.
Another awesome video, though I have a suggestion. For a future battle maybe use quinlan vos. Maybe against maul or galen malek.
Excellent video. Two points in particular I'd like to make:
1) First thank you so much for giving Form VI its due. I am so fed up of people disrespecting and dismissing it out of hand.
2) One thing I find interesting about Sora's "kark it! I'll just kill everyone" decision was that it happened after his own former apprentice, Mira, was killed. I'm wondering if her death may have catalyzed his fall as prior to that he was still able to pass himself off as the typical serene Jedi Master.
Claps for Kao Cen Darach.
Jensaarai I have noticed a definite centering of your presentations. As Yoda would say: Logically presented your recent videos have been. Gone any hints of fanboyism are. Enjoyable and educational your videos are. Very good work you have done. Stay the way you produce your videos you should. Two thumbs up you deserve and shall receive.
Your videos are always so informative. I thought it was, and always pronounced it as "Vay-pad"
The Revenge of th Sith audiobook pronounces it as "Va-pad." I know it's also spoken in the Shatterpoint book but I forget how it's pronounced there.
Antoine Bandele
Well that's just how I pronounced it. Until now, I never heard it pronounced.
Great video, as usual.
Great observation and logic.
Well done on this one. I would be interested to see some NJO characters honestly.
Like maybe Corran Horn, or even Leia as a fully fledged Jedi. I know it will take a lot of time for that, but I am patient.
Awesome! And I think this is your first HD video too. It looks good.
the thing i like the most about those videos is that styles DO make fights. As a huge MMA fan I love when someone tries to deduce the winner from tactics and strategies instead of pure feats, amazing work.
That being said, is there a Jedi or Sith that you find particulary the best in terms of fighting style? Someone that is almost flawless?
***** very interesting opnion. I do agree with most of it, I do believe the Rock, paper scissor mentality is the most correct,but I do believe sometimes despite all odds the rock will put a hole through paper and the scissor will cut the rock. Vader is my favorite fighter also, but I do believe the most complete and overwhelming fighter would be his son Luke Skywalker, because although he lacks the sophistication of his father, the guy is simply amazing at everything, I admire your work a lot, together with the Evannova , Greywolf and Antoinne, you guys do an amazing star wars work, I think I will ask for those 3 the same question I just did just to enjoy the answer
*****
darth bane darth zannah vs darth tyranus darth maul
I'm presuming you're saying Vader is the best duelist because of capitalizing on his strength and compensating for his weaknesses like you said, but you don't honestly think he's the best duelist, right?
"The red hue syth-crystals produced more powerful blades, but at the cost of maneuverability and stability." Has there ever been one instance outside of rpg stats that this has ever mattered or been displayed?
***** Interesting. However this seems like one of those more obscure things in the lore that I have to question. Exactly how are Sith style red blades harder to "maneuver" since from what I understand the blades are weightless. How are the they more powerful and unstable, and in what regard? Has there ever been one instance in the lore that red blades could cut something at lest more easily than normal Jedi sabers or if Sith sabers have ever once been shown to randomly malfunction due to being more unstable? Sure it would make since in role playing games were such small details would matter which was why I brought it up, but in the actual lore if they never really demonstrate this I really don't see how it is even relevant. I'm not really questioning yourself specifically on this, just concepts themselves.
Psychonis i'm not the biggest fan of starwars but from time to time i do read random wikia's when i'm bored; i don't know how they were harder to handle, (maybe because the blade plays tricks on your eyes?), but there have been instances, (exceedingly few) where in a lightsaber fight the red short circuited the opponent, but it wasn't much of an issue unless you kept the two blades continuously crossed agains the other for a long while
Pablo Rius Can you name the source in the lore such as a story in the EU where this actually happened?
Psychonis Qordis states that red are significantly more powerful in "Darth Bane A Path of Destruction", i can't find an example where it actually happens though, sorry, as for the "playing tricks on the eyes" bit i mentioned, that was my theory entirely.
Pablo Rius Yeah, that' basically highlights most my issue with it. It seems like something in the lore which is just "there" and really serves no purpose and is never utilized.
You're versus series is the best out there.
Not sure if you get this a lot, but your awesome. I love these!!!!
Quinlan Vos vs. Darth Maul or Galen Marek (or Starkiller clone) vs Darth Krayt. Also I was afraid that because of kao cen darach's limited appearance would limit his chances. But I was very glad to discover that these fears were because I did not know enough about kao cen darach and also my knowledge of sora bulq was overrated. Nicely done!
Excellent video once again Jensaarai1 and I agree it paints Cen in a much better light then many assume, especially considering he fended off both Sith at the same time. Malgus didn't over power him until he was exhausted, a fresh Cen versus Malgus duel would be a all together different fight from the cinematic trailer's.
+Douglas Tarbox a fresh Malgus of that time vs fresh Cen would be a curb stomp for Cen malgus gets better later
I likes the magneto theme from first class you've included in this video.
I'm making my way through a playlist of all Versus Series and Character Bios from yourself, EvanNova and GreyJedi! I appreciate your time and effort! I have a suggestion: *DARTH KRAYT VS DARTH VADER* After their rivally as Jedi, and their similar fall to the dark side I think this matchup would be interesting. Have a great day!
Vader would stomp......
Congratulations on the Twentieth/Twenty-first episode of the versus series. XD I've been a fan of these and I love that they're still alive and well.
Probably not looking for suggestions, but should you ever want one, would you ever consider doing a clone wars/post OT character match up like your Asajj vs Sedriss video again? Maybe with two jedis like Jania Solo vs Ashoka Tano?
I have a request fight: Kao Cen Durach vs Kas'im, Battle Master vs Blade Master.
Awesome video bro. Asajj Ventress vs Mara Jade Skywalker would be a cool battle. Hope i spelled those names right :).
I'm not trying to start a flame war or what not but arent the books now invalid? I know when Star Wars was transferred to Disney they classified literature in terms of the games as noncanon but my question is what of the random books?
Disney shifted EVERYTHING, aside from the Movies, their novelizations and the Clone Wars series as canon. Everything else is marked as "Legends" in the eyes of Disney. Everything going forward will go through the Story Group. The first thing that is being added to the main canon is the Son of Dathomir comic books series which was supposed to be a part of the sixth season of the Clone Wars series.
After that they are releasing these books in the "main canon":
www.starwars.com/news/disney-publishing-worldwide-and-random-house-announce-relaunch-of-star-wars-adult-fiction-line
So the Clone Wars Cartoon Network stuff (albiet lovely to some, ungodly to others) is canon? Just checking because if that's the case... TECHNICALLY Republic Commandos are canon because I recall "Boss" making a minor appearance. Anyways thanks for the info, didn't want to ask Reddit because well... it's fucking reddit. Hopefully the writers took notes on what the original set of authors did in terms of forging decent lore.
Atomic Rebellion You can read more about it here:
starwars.com/news/the-legendary-star-wars-expanded-universe-turns-a-new-page.html
Or watch their video here:
The Star Wars Expanded Universe: Past, Present, and Future
You are correct, but if we stick to that logic there's no need to continue this series
That's like saying the Sam Raimi Spiderman movies are "invalid" because of the newer movies. If people enjoy the books,comics etc then they're as valid as ever. Just set in a different continuity.
Kyle Katarn vs. Obi Wan Kenobi? Anyone?
I'd rather see Malak vs Obi Wan Kenobi.
Robbie Lobster The clone or the original?
In his physical prime, Revenge of the Sith Kenobi.
Robbie Lobster That would be a cool match along with my own! i hope Jensaarai makes a video of this and your match if he has the time.
If I can find the time on my own hands, I'll see if I can conjure up Kenobi vs Malak. Thanks, I liked yours as well.
i love VS videos that heavily feature Niman users, Niman gets such a bad rep for no reason, it would be my lightsaber form of choice #Nimanmasterrace
darkshadowssonic Niman is good but for me I don't care for it's lack of focused Blade training, if I was a Jedi I would be a Jedi Guardian and would focus greatly upon my sword play. So I would study it but my main style would be either Djem So, or Shien.
+darkshadowssonic for me i like form 1 like Lucien drayy and kit fisto because i can take on many opponents and it is very simple too learn
+Josh Campbell Djem So/Shien master race. But Niman is a pretty good style because it versatility and is about improvising instead of a normal combat sequence. But my style would consists of mastery of Djem So as the back bone of my style,shien for usage and training of reverse grip and blaster deflection. Then Niman to make up the weaknesses my previous styles and helps chain force abilities.
I personally would use a Juyo combo. If you pay attention to a of Jensaarai's videos, you know Juyo is only used when a person has training in all forms, and specializing in two to even six styles of combat. With that said, no style is the same with Juyo, so I'd use a Makashi/Ataru/Shien mix, becoming basically a jack of all trades.
Spectre the Espeon That would be a difficult combination to master, as Juyo, is so randomized and Makashi is so focused and precise but if it came together it would be devastating.
Been wanting to see a Obi Wan vs Mace W for some time now. Leaning towards Obi Wan but enjoy how you break down these fights to a tee
The armour Darach used may still be a cortosis alloy, since the plates only seem to cover the thighs, shins, lower arms and chest. You can see Malgus's final blow is aimed at the gut rather than the chest.
It's nice to see the Jedi win every ones and a while :)
Exar-Kun Vs. Senya Triall is a battle that comes to mind for a battle i would love to see.
Why do lightsabers absorb force lightning (Obi-wan vs Dooku Episode II), but they deflect blaster bullets?
I assume force lighting is energy just like blaster ammo. I am also not considering Windu vs Sidious considering Windu used his vappad style to redirect the lighting so of course his lightsaber did not absorb it.
***** Thanks for the explanation and the reply. Clears up some questions
Good vid and I like how you used the kao cen durach vs malgus and vindicat video into ur vid and I agree kao would win if only barley lol
Excellent analysis:).
Pleaaaase. I need to know the music you used in this video.
Could you do a what if series where you say what you think would have happened if sonething was different in the star wars universe eg-general grievous had the force or anakin killed obi wan on mustafar, if you do consider using this idea then please do the grievous on, thanks :-)
If they would be on the same timeline, I wonder how the infamous Jedi killer, General Grievous, would fare against the Battlemaster, Kao Cen Darach.
Wish granted.
What is the song playing at 17:10?
What made you change the order of which you did? Originally, you did lightsaber skills first, then physique, then force abilities, then equipment. Why change that around? Just wondering...
Also, after what you've said about Niman, if I were a Jedi, I would practice the styles to further my options in battle.
I see. Thank you.
***** BTW, if Kao Cen Darach went by against Count Dooku, what might be the most likely outcome? Dooku believed that by studying a single form, he could actually outclass a battlemaster. What do you think?
***** would you mind doing kit fisto vs plo koon? I thought they might be a good mash up. Big fan of your videos keep doing what your doing.
2THOLMES what does btw mean
By the way
For your next Versus video, I want to see Exar Kun vs. Darth Malgus.
something, I noticed about the Jedi battle armor: it's not so much that the armor can't withstand a full hit, it's WHERE the hit is landing on the armor. In both of the death blows given to Darach and Ven Zallow, the blows fell below the ribcage, where the lightsaber-resistant plates are NOTICABLY ABSENT.
One reason I prefer Jensaarai is that I really enjoy his voice, but obviously not one of the main reasons, because others I've listened to sound like they're falling asleep.
Hey Jensaarai you seem to know a fair about actual historical fencing references, such as the german, italian, french, english schools of swordsmanship and etc.
At some point maybe you should make a video contrasting the similarities and inspirations the light-saber forms took from some of these schools.
For instance I think Fechten has similarities with Juyo and Mikashi with a bit of Djem-So and Niman.
And Kenjutsu has a lot in common with Djem-So, Makashi, and a bit of Soresu.
Just a thought.
Jensaarai, you said once that you were going to do 2v2 matchups sometime. Do you think any of these matchups could work?
1. Darth Bane and Darth Zannah vs Exar Kun and Ulic Qel-Droma
2. Kao Cen Durach and Ven Zallow vs Plo Koon and Ahsoka Tano
3. Darth Vindican and Darth Malgus (from the Return trailer) vs Darth Maul and Savage Opress (I know you think they are the worst TCW characters, but it seems pretty obvious that they would lose)
One thing we know now is that even at that point Malgus was one of the best swordsmen of the sith, and was even as an apprentice considered one of the most powerful sith grandmaster Satile Shen had meet, even much later when she had slain a number of strong Sith Lords, so knowing that I think it would be an even better victory for Cao.
Woah what was that beginning fight scene from? And what's with the Ip man music? It's too strong.
I completely agree. Darach would definitely be the victor in this case.
Here's an idea for a future video!
Shaak Ti vs. Lumiya
I (even as a sith) am 'very' impressed with the skill and courage of Master Darach.
Nicely done, as usual.
Another excellent video!
Love the X-men first class music in the background =)
Could you do general grievous vs anakin skywalker or pong krell please :-)
KatakiDoragon id like to see that :-)
+Jensaarai1 When are you going to post your next video?
4:27 who is that guy?
Jedi Master Kao Cen Darach. You can check him out in the SWTOR "Return" cinematic. His saber skills are fking awesome.
***** ok cool i'll look him up thanks:)
You need to make a versus series of General Pong Krell and Grievous
Who would win in a battle between mara jade Skywalker and Saba sebatyne
Is it better to be a dedicated lightsaber duelist using the force as a supplement? Or to primarily focus on using the force?
it depends on how you fight. I guess. Like jedi guardians usually use lightsabers and consulars usually focus on force usage. I find that force powers will be hard to get off if your being barraged with lightsaber attacks. while a pure lightsaber duelist would have trouble against a dedicated ranged force user via trying to close distance.
+Gavin Sanghera most warrior jedi are dedicatedlightsaber dualists, however the few that do master niman and the creative use of the force that comes with it have been known to be some of the strongest of their ages.
I think since you have done a video about two battle masters you should do a video of two skilled assassins who were nothing more than pawns to their masters Darth Maul vs Assaij Ventress.
Darth Bane & Darth Zannah vs Darth Maul & Darth Tyranus
Jensaarai, I know that its out of topic but could you tell me how force insanity can one hit kill a target even as a sith master or jedi master? How those it work and how can some one resist it?
What do you think about Darth Plagueis vs Exar Kun?
Hey if your still doing VS
Do HK-47 VS IG-88
Saw your Sith Juggernaut toon on the Imperial Fleet and thought I recognised your name!
Better than bloody Evan novas vids. Good job mate
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do you think you could make a Qui Gon Jinn and Obi Wan Kenobi vs Kit Fisto and Plo Koon, as far as i know you only take one on one and not teams
it's decided, Darach is my favorite jedi alongside Obi Wan.
what's the music at the beginning
i didnt realise myself that Dur'ach (i think thats spelt rite) was such a versatile duelist and force user, i do like the amount of research u put into things
Depa Billaba was the another Jedi master who help create Vaapad, but she too fell to the dark side.
--- Depa Billaba vs Adi Gallia ---
I would be interested i what your thoughts are on Kanan (Rebels).
How about a 4 way free for all Darth Bane vs Darth Krayt vs. Darth Malgus vs. Darth Vader. 4 Strong guys that are built like tanks. Let them all beat each other down and see whose the biggest brute. Also, and I'm not trying to tell you how to make your vids, but when you give the verdict I would be very interested on how you think the battle would play out. I know you already do this but I mean maybe a little more in depth detail kind of like Evannova and Antoine Bandele does. Thanks for all the great vids.
So just been wondering I know this is off topic but is it possible for a force sensitive mandolorian to become a sith lord and what would said person even be like