I acquired a YSS shock for my V-Strom, and being an idiot as well, I thought I urgently needed the one with the external reservoir. The thing took a long time to get from Thailand to the Netherlands and when it got here riding season already started, so I was in no hurry to tackle the job. When I finally started the job the orientation of the line for the preload adjuster was opposite the line for the reservoir making it impossible to mount the d... thing. Luckily I came across your video and you showed me that the preload adjuster ring is a loose part once the tension of the spring is removed. So I concocted a construction from luggage straps and my shop jack (don't do this at home) to release the tension from the spring so I could turn the preload adjuster ring and succeeded in mounting the whole thing without much fuss. Thank you very much for making this video.
@@roadwarrior8560 15000 km on the shock so far. No complaints. Still very happy with the shock and how it performs. I ordered the shock from a distributor in the Netherlands, and they placed the order in Thailand. I gave them my weight and an estimate of the luggage I take while traveling. I haven't got a clue about the spring rate. I'm 80 kg and carry about 30 kilograms of luggage at max.
I just had a YSS shock fail on my 500X. The bottom shock mount broke in half and destroyed the damping adjuster as well. The quality control at YSS is lucky dip at best.
Agree. I bought a YSS shock and fork kit for a CRF300L and am quite disappointed. The rear shock fades quickly when riding off-road and the cartridge kit doesn’t come with any of the YSS special tools needed for installation or instructions and if you install the kit yourself they void the warranty. I would not recommend their products.
As a true mechanical idiot I am impressed by your skills. I still manage to drop essential parts into inaccessible places on the bike often. I found the original shock to be way too stiff at first but as an idiot I simply went 3 preload adjustments lower on the standard shock and it has been ok ever since. Even though I am way overweight it doesn’t bottom out. Great to see you out and about riding again.
I ordered a Touratech for my current favorite bike, and was very explicit in making sure THEY installed the spring (and that it was the right one for my weight). Well done on getting the job complete.
BREAKING NEWS: A Qantas Boeing 787 flying at 38000 feet experienced an engine failure and was forced to an emergency landing. Upon inspection it was realized that the airliner had been shot at with what appears to be a motorcycle rear suspension. Authorities dismissed any suspicion of terrorist act and warned that they will find the idiot who did this.
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff Brother, Can u help me find the right rear suspension for Royal Enfield Hunter 350 from YSS. It's just that I don't know anything about suspensions and my stock one is a bit stiff. For reference I weight 70kg.
I put Yss on a yammy roadstar. I ordered correct spring weight for me and partner and it is fantastic. I've got 50 years riding and my missus does big miles on the back also. She reckons its more comfortable than my goldwing and I agree. Set up properly they are fantastic and won't injure the bank balance much at all.👍👍👍
A mistake that is all too common me thinks. I put a new Wilbers rear shock on my 1995 bike and the comprehensive ordering questions avoid that outcome. But you do pay more for the privilege! Super job on the rig. 👍
Best seek out your local chapter of IASSG (Idiots Aftermarket Suspension Support Group); we meet every second Tuesday - it helps. Beware though, if IAESSG (Idiots Aftermarket Exhaust System Support Group) is also holding a meeting, they eat all the cookies and make a hell of a racket!
I watched Biker Bits video last week where they changed a shock spring on a KLR. Frightening to watch with the so called designed tool. Yours is so much safer. Clever what you have done.
I believe the rider sag should be measured with both feet on the pegs. Standing next to a pillar or wall helps you keep the bike upright while measuring.
I am a huge fan. You got me into making a TH-cam channel. I install my rear shock with a sock on it. I always lubricate it first, then slide the sock onto the shock. There are two small holes on the side of the sock to spray lube into the sock and onto the shaft. I am a dirt rider. I can feel the changes in shock performance from day to day. I give it a fresh lube and wow. Just like new. So. I think a lot of people have early failure because they are not aware of all the gunk and dirt the shaft picks up. Or what kind of friction it causes. So. I thought I would throw my opinion out there. I have a weirdly sensitive set of legs as I was a pro snowboarder. I can feel how the grease seems to push off the rear shaft. I tend to use silicone lube now
Thanks Mark. Wendy and I are big fans of your channel. Watching MCT at the moment. My unit is only one step better than your efforts with Matt! Still very bodged job. But like your efforts, it got the job done.
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff it looked so good I couldn't tell which was yours and which was OEM in that assembly? You cut an internal thread in a locking ring you made, is that right?
Good to hear from you again with another job well done!! I am itching to get out on my 2015 NC as the weather is beginning to improve but, we are still in lockdown. best wishes (KB Wales UK)
Love your videos. Can you share you experience with the yas-56-180 150? Currently having issues on my cb500x suspension since im taking at least 200 kg load. This includes me a 100kg guy my soft panniers and tent kit plus a passanger.
I wonder if the YSS shocks have different valving for each spring rate. Supposedly, when u change spring rate, the valving needs to be adjusted as well.
Great video, I'm 115kg, ride solo with maybe 15kgs? luggage sometimes, wonder what spring rate to go for on a vstrom 650 yss shock, they seem to fit a 95nm spring to them but a heavier 110nm is available. Maybe the 95nm will be fine as in your case you had to go to a softer spring? Love your homemade spring compressor, necessity is the mother of invention!😄
Yep spring rate is important, but so is damping -- if your shock's damping is built to a certain spring rate you may need a revalve if you change the spring, in order to get the damping in the right range too...
Another great video .Thanks. I too have fitted the stronger spring and yes a bit firmer than I would like.....but I await the lifting of lockdown (in the UK) to see how it is with passenger and luggage. Did you try it two up? - I think most of your miles are 'solo'.?
We both have a bike so no two-up. The standard spring is good for my weight. The hydraulic preload adjustment can cope with luggage. So for me the std spring is the answer.
here in brazil we do not have access to this product, we only have the original nc750x. I have a nc 2021, and I want to change these suspensions (rear and front). The yss that corrects more smoothly and the one with the 150 / 150 spring? So is the MZ456 with hydraulic preload the right one for the nc750?
I installed YSS fully adjustable units front and rear on my RE Himalayan. Like a pro idiot, I put in the heaviest oil in the forks. The emulators fitted easily at that point, but when I realized the damping was too hard because of the oil, I took another weekend off to do the whole job again and of course the emulators took me a day of stuffing around to get right. Both front and rear took 3 months to bed in and now work amazingly well. So it was worth the frustration. Great vids and presentation, please keep up your wonderful work and I would like to consider saying where you are riding sometimes. Cheers.
i had a rear spring so stiff on my ktm 690 it had zero preload on it. It needed a car spring compressor to remove it. Probably a 120kg plus spring or wrong spring for the shock. Anyway got a 90kg spring and happy days. Looking at getting a YSS for my mt09.
HI MATE, could you let me know how long is the original shock absorber ? I have an Ohlins one from my Honda Vtec 800 and i would like to reuse in Nc750X ! Thanks a lot.
Did you find out what the 150 and 180 means? I've seen several YSS, Ohlin and other springs for sale but I can't seem to find a correlation with the spring numbers to spring rates.
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff - Hmmm. As an experimentalist, I'd have seen if there were an optimum tire pressure once the new shocks had been installed and tried. But that does take time and a calibrated butt. :-)
I bought a pair of YSS shocks and they had a manufacture date showing they were made about 11 years before I bought them they tried to bullshit about it and I sent them back
.....from 1 idiot to another then, those woods you hammer through terrify me, I thought Aus was covered in Roo's, which even bring down road trains!!! Is that NSW? Greetings from the Isle of Man!
So what is the conclusion? You've returned to softer standard spring, that designed for 80kg man with small lugage. How does it work for 2-persons camping?
I’ve gone back to the heavier spring! It’s still a bit too firm but it’s ok. I don’t carry a pillion and we have decided we are too old and lazy for camping 😁
length adjustment? yeah right> if you manage to unscrew overly miniature nut, i couldn't, on both shocks i just managed to destroy the nut, so YSS -NOT COOL, next time you do it right, dont skimp on nuts and bolts, cause they are very importante!!! (needless to say i left them on factory setings, otherwise they can be prolonged +-10mm...) the twins in fabula are te302-400t-06al-38... otherwise they seem nice and more stiff than originals, but that may be cause they are not broken in yet, will see also if you dont have super star motorcycle model, be aware that probably several shocks models would be ok for your bike, so find a catalogue with measures and that is the most secure way not to buy wrong ones... for eg that model is for downtown 350, yet i used them for people 300 and so on
I ordered a nice kit from yss myself , a yellow color shocks without thinking more then my nose that the color might be different from my yellow monkey 😒 mistake were made here lol😂 I wonder if my brain can support the new color mismatch of the bike now
Gday mate i wouldnt say anything about being an idiot an idiot wouldnt be able to turn up a locking washer that is going to work well nor be able to devise a home made spring compressor that may only get used a few times but does the job required so quickly nae my friend not an idiot i say a clever cookie take care .
Maaan, you're definitly an artist, not an idiot at all, well done. I wish I knew how to do all the stuff you do, and your workshop has all you need!
I acquired a YSS shock for my V-Strom, and being an idiot as well, I thought I urgently needed the one with the external reservoir. The thing took a long time to get from Thailand to the Netherlands and when it got here riding season already started, so I was in no hurry to tackle the job. When I finally started the job the orientation of the line for the preload adjuster was opposite the line for the reservoir making it impossible to mount the d... thing. Luckily I came across your video and you showed me that the preload adjuster ring is a loose part once the tension of the spring is removed. So I concocted a construction from luggage straps and my shop jack (don't do this at home) to release the tension from the spring so I could turn the preload adjuster ring and succeeded in mounting the whole thing without much fuss. Thank you very much for making this video.
Ha! Thanks. Glad you had success in the end.
Hi, how is the YSS shock working out on the vstrom? I'm 115kgs looking for one for my vstrom 650. 95nm spring seems standard on them. thanks.
@@roadwarrior8560 15000 km on the shock so far. No complaints. Still very happy with the shock and how it performs. I ordered the shock from a distributor in the Netherlands, and they placed the order in Thailand. I gave them my weight and an estimate of the luggage I take while traveling. I haven't got a clue about the spring rate. I'm 80 kg and carry about 30 kilograms of luggage at max.
I just had a YSS shock fail on my 500X. The bottom shock mount broke in half and destroyed the damping adjuster as well. The quality control at YSS is lucky dip at best.
Agree. I bought a YSS shock and fork kit for a CRF300L and am quite disappointed. The rear shock fades quickly when riding off-road and the cartridge kit doesn’t come with any of the YSS special tools needed for installation or instructions and if you install the kit yourself they void the warranty. I would not recommend their products.
As a true mechanical idiot I am impressed by your skills. I still manage to drop essential parts into inaccessible places on the bike often. I found the original shock to be way too stiff at first but as an idiot I simply went 3 preload adjustments lower on the standard shock and it has been ok ever since. Even though I am way overweight it doesn’t bottom out. Great to see you out and about riding again.
Great job, you are too humble! You're a clever bloke!
The "Spring Compressor of Death!". If we never see a video from you again, we will know you used that spring compressor again...
Ha! Try using those car-type ones to experience real death 😢
Damn putting his fingers in there ... I was shocked .I would only try this with an extension while I am in a different room 🤣
You may be old, as you mentioned, but you still have a young heart.
I ordered a Touratech for my current favorite bike, and was very explicit in making sure THEY installed the spring (and that it was the right one for my weight). Well done on getting the job complete.
BREAKING NEWS: A Qantas Boeing 787 flying at 38000 feet experienced an engine failure and was forced to an emergency landing. Upon inspection it was realized that the airliner had been shot at with what appears to be a motorcycle rear suspension. Authorities dismissed any suspicion of terrorist act and warned that they will find the idiot who did this.
Ha! 🤣
Yes, but that was over the Pacific!
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff Brother, Can u help me find the right rear suspension for Royal Enfield Hunter 350 from YSS. It's just that I don't know anything about suspensions and my stock one is a bit stiff. For reference I weight 70kg.
@@drdoolittle5724 No one said the spring came from underneath. It may just as well returned from orbit!
I put Yss on a yammy roadstar. I ordered correct spring weight for me and partner and it is fantastic. I've got 50 years riding and my missus does big miles on the back also. She reckons its more comfortable than my goldwing and I agree. Set up properly they are fantastic and won't injure the bank balance much at all.👍👍👍
Not an idiot. Very informative and entertaining 👏 keep up the great work, you have definitely saved me a lot of time and money 💰
A mistake that is all too common me thinks. I put a new Wilbers rear shock on my 1995 bike and the comprehensive ordering questions avoid that outcome. But you do pay more for the privilege! Super job on the rig. 👍
I like how you built your spring compression tool, very simple design but efective!
Best seek out your local chapter of IASSG (Idiots Aftermarket Suspension Support Group); we meet every second Tuesday - it helps. Beware though, if IAESSG (Idiots Aftermarket Exhaust System Support Group) is also holding a meeting, they eat all the cookies and make a hell of a racket!
Ha! Would be funny if it were not true. 🤣
I watched Biker Bits video last week where they changed a shock spring on a KLR. Frightening to watch with the so called designed tool. Yours is so much safer. Clever what you have done.
Yes. I subscribe to him too. Their experience was what I’ve experienced myself years ago. Never again.
I believe the rider sag should be measured with both feet on the pegs. Standing next to a pillar or wall helps you keep the bike upright while measuring.
I am a huge fan. You got me into making a TH-cam channel. I install my rear shock with a sock on it. I always lubricate it first, then slide the sock onto the shock. There are two small holes on the side of the sock to spray lube into the sock and onto the shaft. I am a dirt rider. I can feel the changes in shock performance from day to day. I give it a fresh lube and wow. Just like new. So. I think a lot of people have early failure because they are not aware of all the gunk and dirt the shaft picks up. Or what kind of friction it causes. So. I thought I would throw my opinion out there. I have a weirdly sensitive set of legs as I was a pro snowboarder. I can feel how the grease seems to push off the rear shaft. I tend to use silicone lube now
Great feedback. Thanks
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff I appreciate it! Wow, I feel like I wrote to Macgyver and got a response.
Love your content, us blokes totally relate to your technical methodology 🛠. "Cannit be bothered" is a phrase that is well used at my end 😀 haha
Yes. And often it comes back to bite me. But I never learn. Laziness always seems to trump intelligence.
That spring compressor is a Bloody Ripper! Well done 👍 Cheers... Mark
Thanks Mark. Wendy and I are big fans of your channel. Watching MCT at the moment.
My unit is only one step better than your efforts with Matt! Still very bodged job. But like your efforts, it got the job done.
Love the spring compressor, great design.
Fantastical resourcefulness!
No filum detailing the manufacturing of the locking ring?
So good to get these pearls from you cobber...
Ha! I was pretty sure the making of the locking ring would be a failure. So no filming. But I surprised myself. It worked out fine.
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff it looked so good I couldn't tell which was yours and which was OEM in that assembly?
You cut an internal thread in a locking ring you made, is that right?
@@edgarbleikur1929 I made a completely new locking ring from 10mm aluminium. Yes, I cut single-point thread on the lathe.
Thank you from KSA.
You are not idiot , its just a mistake , we all doing mistakes.
Good to hear from you again with another job well done!! I am itching to get out on my 2015 NC as the weather is beginning to improve but, we are still in lockdown. best wishes (KB Wales UK)
Love your videos. Can you share you experience with the yas-56-180 150? Currently having issues on my cb500x suspension since im taking at least 200 kg load. This includes me a 100kg guy my soft panniers and tent kit plus a passanger.
I wonder if the YSS shocks have different valving for each spring rate. Supposedly, when u change spring rate, the valving needs to be adjusted as well.
Great video, I'm 115kg, ride solo with maybe 15kgs? luggage sometimes, wonder what spring rate to go for on a vstrom 650 yss shock, they seem to fit a 95nm spring to them but a heavier 110nm is available.
Maybe the 95nm will be fine as in your case you had to go to a softer spring?
Love your homemade spring compressor, necessity is the mother of invention!😄
Yep spring rate is important, but so is damping -- if your shock's damping is built to a certain spring rate you may need a revalve if you change the spring, in order to get the damping in the right range too...
Good Job done, And too Honest, Most would have Edited out the little mistakes.😎🏍
”Expert assistant” but I heard “ex bird assistant”. Shocked for a moment there :)
Yep. The dopey Aussie accent !
Another great video .Thanks. I too have fitted the stronger spring and yes a bit firmer than I would like.....but I await the lifting of lockdown (in the UK) to see how it is with passenger and luggage. Did you try it two up? - I think most of your miles are 'solo'.?
We both have a bike so no two-up.
The standard spring is good for my weight. The hydraulic preload adjustment can cope with luggage. So for me the std spring is the answer.
How dare you call my favourite NC750X guru an idiot !!!!!
(I have to say though, disappointing lack of hammer usage....) 👍👍👍
Ha! The hammer was hovering in the background, egged on by the cold chisel
Every day's a school day. If it isn't, your doing something wrong.
Nice Video. Good to see some fabricated tools. Thanks for posting.
🏴hi stuff
love you channel keep up the good work. I await delivery of a 2021 honda nc750x this is me downsizing after 50 years of motorcycling
Thanks. Enjoy your new adventures.
also, interesting rig. Personally, I used the ratchet straps method before.
here in brazil we do not have access to this product, we only have the original nc750x. I have a nc 2021, and I want to change these suspensions (rear and front). The yss that corrects more smoothly and the one with the 150 / 150 spring? So is the MZ456 with hydraulic preload the right one for the nc750?
Good on you. Enjoyed seeing how it’s done.👍🏍
I installed YSS fully adjustable units front and rear on my RE Himalayan. Like a pro idiot, I put in the heaviest oil in the forks. The emulators fitted easily at that point, but when I realized the damping was too hard because of the oil, I took another weekend off to do the whole job again and of course the emulators took me a day of stuffing around to get right. Both front and rear took 3 months to bed in and now work amazingly well. So it was worth the frustration. Great vids and presentation, please keep up your wonderful work and I would like to consider saying where you are riding sometimes. Cheers.
Thanks mate. Glad you sorted yours out.
Well Done that man.
i had a rear spring so stiff on my ktm 690 it had zero preload on it. It needed a car spring compressor to remove it. Probably a 120kg plus spring or wrong spring for the shock. Anyway got a 90kg spring and happy days. Looking at getting a YSS for my mt09.
interesting Im about to buy a new ohlins rear for my Tracer. I am 100kg with gear on. Im thinking now I should order it for 90kg
how did that work out? thanks.
HI MATE, could you let me know how long is the original shock absorber ? I have an Ohlins one from my Honda Vtec 800 and i would like to reuse in Nc750X ! Thanks a lot.
i replaced my rear shock two years ago with a new yss shock and they aint cheap bits of kit.
how is the shock working out?
Did you find out what the 150 and 180 means? I've seen several YSS, Ohlin and other springs for sale but I can't seem to find a correlation with the spring numbers to spring rates.
Sorry no. The 150 us supposed to be the same spring weight as standard. The 180 is the next stiffer.
Honda rebel yes had a 500 cc model not bad for short journeys not comfortable sorry to say
Did you experiment with different *tire pressures* to see how they affect
the *overall damping* with the new shocks?
No. Changing tyre pressures would only mask the problem. 🤔
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff - Hmmm. As an experimentalist, I'd have seen if there were an optimum tire pressure once the new shocks had been installed and tried. But that does take time and a calibrated butt. :-)
Hello. Are you still happy with YSS? Would you recommend this brand?
Still happy. Good value for the money.
In hindsight I would buy the model with both compression and rebound damping.
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff ok.. thank you. I'm thinking in getting one for my cb500x
Are YSS rebuildable? wouldnt they sell you a replacement ring? How much could it cost? 20 bucks? rather than create a new one on the lathe?
Yes. Probably could have bought one.
But why? When I could have the pleasure of making one for free?
I bought a pair of YSS shocks and they had a manufacture date showing they were made about 11 years before I bought them they tried to bullshit about it and I sent them back
.....from 1 idiot to another then, those woods you hammer through terrify me, I thought Aus was covered in Roo's, which even bring down road trains!!! Is that NSW? Greetings from the Isle of Man!
Yes. NSW east coast. Thanks.
So what is the conclusion? You've returned to softer standard spring, that designed for 80kg man with small lugage. How does it work for 2-persons camping?
I’ve gone back to the heavier spring!
It’s still a bit too firm but it’s ok.
I don’t carry a pillion and we have decided we are too old and lazy for camping 😁
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After you said, ‘’Screwy things’’ you lost me, you are far to technical. Keep it simple for us older chaps😃🇬🇧
Ha! Got me
length adjustment? yeah right> if you manage to unscrew overly miniature nut, i couldn't, on both shocks i just managed to destroy the nut, so YSS -NOT COOL, next time you do it right, dont skimp on nuts and bolts, cause they are very importante!!! (needless to say i left them on factory setings, otherwise they can be prolonged +-10mm...) the twins in fabula are te302-400t-06al-38... otherwise they seem nice and more stiff than originals, but that may be cause they are not broken in yet, will see also if you dont have super star motorcycle model, be aware that probably several shocks models would be ok for your bike, so find a catalogue with measures and that is the most secure way not to buy wrong ones... for eg that model is for downtown 350, yet i used them for people 300 and so on
Good work
can you do this with the 750S model on 2017 plate.
Don’t know. But I don’t see why not.
Really nice video!
What shock is that, do you have a part number?
See my previous videos about this shock. It’s YSS. Simply google YSS shock for Honda NC750X to find your local supplier.
Good 👍job 👏
I ordered a nice kit from yss myself , a yellow color shocks without thinking more then my nose that the color might be different from my yellow monkey 😒 mistake were made here lol😂 I wonder if my brain can support the new color mismatch of the bike now
Very interesting, thank you 👍!
Idiots do not fix their faults
haha be an optimist ... Merv Perth
Who is Bob? He's not my uncle 😆
Well ... so far as you know anyway. There are already dark secrets in any family 🤔
You probably should let that woman work on the bike, come to think of it,just let her ride the bike
Yep. I’m sure she would do a better job if could only convince her to do it.
Yea, and you're driving on the wrong side of the road too.
Gday mate i wouldnt say anything about being an idiot an idiot wouldnt be able to turn up a locking washer that is going to work well nor be able to devise a home made spring compressor that may only get used a few times but does the job required so quickly nae my friend not an idiot i say a clever cookie take care .
Ha. I love it when you talk dirty!
Take it to an expert..that is cheating.hehe
Looking at how you handle tools you didn't make fuck all on a lathe