Delboy's Garage, Triumph 'YSS' Suspension Upgrade.!
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As a Thai guy,I’m so proud of Yss
They started from making a replacement shock for scooter or moped and I didn’t even noticed when did they making a high quality and high performance shock and exported worldwide, They’re grew so fast!
I can tell you from experience with the sameYSS on my CB1300. Amazing shocks. After 20K I saw signs of leakage. My garage contacted Vmoto and they sent are replacement in a week and so far I've one another 30K with no problem. Dellboy is 100% right!
I have to admit. being a long time auto mechanic. I've still always been sketchy about working on my bike due too the repercussions of a mistake on a bike Vs a car. That being said I still like watching the old simple videos you make. Like you said we are talking 1 socket and 4 bolts, but what I like is all good info and the small tips you don't get in a service book.
I have had YSS suspension in the past, not so good, a recent upgrade in the factory means these are NOW seriously good quality, for the money. After the long day I had on your stunning September ride out last year I upgraded the mono shock on my Honda CBR to YSS. Stunning result - completely changes the bike - cheaper than a new bike (so i told the wife). Comes with simple set up instructions - made to order with my weight and intended use of the bike as part of the order, I got it through 'BrooksBarnParts' on ebay, took about 10 days to arrive. The bike has now been through the winter salt, etc on my daily commute, not a mark on the shock, well pleased. FS365 user, helps of course.
Hey buddy, good to hear from you again... it was a good day out aye? (what we got to see of it with all the dashing about lol)... good to hear your shock has held up as the finish is just as important as the performance! Ride safe...
Getting my new Triumph Street Twin next week. Love your videos and feeling much more confident that I can do some of my own work. Thanks a million. Your way of explaining things is truly top notch. Keep up the great work!
Thanks buddy.. good luck with your bike.. have a great time with it, and enjoy every mile..!
Hi Del and Penny, very useful series, i am a reasonable HOME mechanic , but every time you guys do a job that is regarded as routine maintenance I pick up some great new tips and advice.The new style is subtly better, more pro looking, but either way your bang on the button. Thanks again. Gerry.
Thanks Gerry, you're very kind mate, we're glad the new longer editing is paying off...
YSS are great shocks. fitted them to many of my friends triumphs, especially the t300 range.
Crackin, informative video as usual Delboy. used your 5000 sportster service video recently. saved myself a fortune and I know it's been done correctly. Keep on keeping on. Superb chanel mate. All the best.
Nice one Cam... and also, dont forget, you saved yourself over £300 too... result...
Hi Del..Another great vid. Here's a really cool idea for those redundant, crap, original Triumph shocks, spray up the springs really shiny colour, then fit them as wardrobe or cabinet door handles. Seen it done, looks the dog's.
All the Best Gav
I'have put a pair of YSS RE302 on my 99 W650 (200euro) and there are a really nice upgrade (with the wilbers progressive front springs 7mm more oil and 5w inside instead of 10w change my ride)! Thanks for all your video, you are the best!
Thank you my friend, im glad to hear you like yours.. im sure Penny will love these.. !
Just picked up a 2013 Bonneville and have just discovered your channel. Better than any Haynes manual. Keep up the great work!
Thank Kevin,, congratulations buddy, and welcome aboard.. Del.
I guess im buying yss shocks for my hawk gt, and hornet 600. You convinced me with 'doing your own maintenance will save you as much as they cost'... You legend you😎
Hi,
Know this is an older how to but just wanted to say big thanks for very informative video.
Recently had to replace my tired Showa shocks and decided to go for a set of the YSS SHOCKS. Remote didn't stock the G type for the bike but we're very helpful and directed me to the YSS Thailand site. Some great info on there. Purchased from Busters/M&P who did stock them.
Hi buddy, thanks for the feedback, im so glad the guys at Wemoto were able to guide you right.. how cool is a company that actually directs you to their competitors.. thats class is that.. it means we get what we need, and they get your respect for ever.. such a breath of fresh air aye... Glad you went for YSS, i think you'll find them a lot better then the old factory bangers.. have a good weekend. Del.
Best explanation of a progressive spring ever! Thankyou.
I like the way you explained the spring , very clear . Cheers
good words - I put a nitron shock on the bandit and it transformed it because of the adjustability and also had it made to my weight and riding style
Another masterpiece there, mate.
Please do the front suspension as part of this series as forks etc. is right at the beginning of my 'uncomfortable zone' and I believe with your treatment of the subject that I'll gain the confidence to retry them myself one day.
As usual, your work is very much appreciated.
Excellent series Del. I bought a Speed Triple S last summer, but these videos make me miss my Bonneville NewChurch! Keep up the excellent work. Can't wait to hear Penny's thoughts regarding all the upgrades.
A Speedy S..... AWESOME.. an old drag race buddy of mine bought one of those last year... told me its "not fast, but more fun than any bike he ever rode"....lol
Lol. It's faster than the Bonnie!!
Hi folks as always love the vids, what a great way to spend some time on a cold winters day.. Not complaining about the music but would like to say that I miss the Transitions. Keep the vids coming and look forward to the next one. cheers
Hi Paul, this was a specific series of six videos, i made them all to go together, same intro and outro sequences, and same style of music.. but variety will be back for the next ones...
WOOP WOOP !! Porridge, Coffee and Delboy's Garage. I love Saturdays !
Porridge?? You must be in Scotland, or am I sterotyping too much! Pip Pip
hahaha no not stereotyping at all. I'm about to eat a teacake and wash it down with some irn bru. I'm not joking :)
Great video as always. I have a 2015 scrambler and have tried a couple different models of shocks including 2 pairs of ohlins, one of them piggy backs. I had them adjusted at 2 different suspension shops and they were so harsh. Im 195lbs and havea hard time finding suspensions that have more travel than stock. Our roads here are terrible and 4” of travel just doesnt cut it however its adjusted (either too stiff or it bottoms out). Works suspension used to make a 6” travel kit front and back but seems like they stopped doing it. My best advice, after spending thousands on shocks it to know what it is you are trying to upgrade and if that shock will address it (height, handling, damping, adjustability, comfort...etc). I ended up putting my stock shocks back on until I find something better, they are more comfortable than the ohlins...
Hi mate, if you're still looking for the right option, you could speak with George Milburn, owner of TEC Bike Parts, he makes a range of great value shocks, they are dismantable, he offers different rates of spring, and different lengths of slider, so if you told him what you needed, perhaps he has what you need in the range of stuff he can offer... worth a try?!
FWIW I’ve installed a pair of these YSS on my 2020 Speed Twin as the standard kit is the worst I’ve ridden on in over 40yrs. I’m used to having full spec Maxton, Ohlins and K-tec on my bikes but didn’t want to spend that kind of money on the Speed Twin. I have to say that while not ‘as good’ as the more expensive brands, (the expensive stuff is more plush) the YSS are very good and are a night and day difference to the standard rubbish. It’s made the difference between me keeping or selling the bike. I recently took it on a 2000 mile trip across the Pyrenees and I genuinely wouldn’t have been able to do it with the standard set up. The standard shocks really are that bad. The forks still need doing but that can wait for Spring 23 now. When I get around to it I’ll edit and post the video I made while fitting them.
Thanks for the guidance - I am going to order the shocks YSS for my Bonneville 2008...
Thanks y'all for what you do. All the time and work you put into your videos, to help others, and myself. Thank you, ride safe, and God bless
Our pleasure, we're glad the videos can help, ride safe and keep well.
Evening Del.Joshua Roberts here from Australia.I just finished watching the video of you doing an oil and air filter change on pennies bike.You changed the K and N air filter for an other brand Could you tell me the name of that filter please.Best wishes to both of you.
Bonjour Del from Switzerland. And Penny of course for the great camera work! I also found your site by chance after buying a 2008 Bonneville 2 days ago and cannot stop watching your videos… Certainly not a mechanic but handy guy nonetheless and your videos make me want to upgrade that Bonnie. You should do physical classes where people could bring their bikes and do a job over one day or two with your supervision and guidance…I would certainly come over to the UK again ! You are an excellent teacher and communicator. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and little hints so efficiently. Philippe
Good morning Philippe! Thank you so much for your generous words of support and encouragement, we're glad you enjoy the videos, congratulations on your new Triumph, there are plenty of videos in our playlist that can help you out and as we still have Triumphs in our lives here, there will be many more videos to come in the future, so perhaps subscribe and hit the icon button and you'll get notifications of anything new that may help you twice a week! Take care and ride safe, Del & Penny!
Hi Del , nice job explaining the workings and the basic starting point, before first ride !
Del, quick one for you: my brother got a pair of rear shocks for his shadow 1100. He went to a local specialist who went through the process of weighing him etc. The brief was 'upgrade shocks for a cruiser for an owner with a very bad back'. I was concerned when they arrived because only the pretension was adjustable.
The guy told him that the springs had what should be the right amount of pretension - a 200mm spring with 20mm pretension- this was also stated on the spec sheet with the shocks. When we fitted the shocks, the ride height was noticeably lower than standard and you could bottom-out the rear end in the garage just by leaning on it. We had to wind a further 30mm of pretension in to get the bike to a reasonable height and to stop the bike pipes hitting the road on right-handers.
The brother went back to the guy who said he'll replace the springs which is great but aside whole thing being a little bizarre having gone to a specialist, I'm still wondering if he shouldn't be expecting more adjustability for his money - he paid more for his shocks than you did for the YSS's.
Any thoughts appreciated, Del :)
You don't say what the brand was mate, or whether they were universal shocks, or specified for his bike?? Because that makes all the difference.... there is no point wasting your time going to a suspension tuning specialist with suspension that cannot be tuned, you need, at the very minimum, some re-bound damping, or preferably both! I can't relaly tell what went wong with your situation, but if you decide to do it properly, hav a chat with the guys at Wemoto, who are sole agents for YSS now, talk to them about what bike you have, what ride height you want, and so on, they will send the exact right shocks for your bike, and on these G Series, the inherent damping tuneablility will mean that they can be set up perfectly for a great ride!
3 years later a new subscriber is learning. Mission accomplished. Thank you 👍
Welcome aboard mate, thanks for watching!
Found this channel by chance and glad I did! Keep up the good work you do an excellent job brother!
Thanks brother, very kind of you indeed!
I've just bought an XJR1300SP with YSS rear shocks (RG362-330TRCL-37-BJX) they look great but I'm in pain after an hour they're set so hard!! The front shocks are as bad! The guy must have toured all over with luggage back and front, I never received the instruction manual so it was good to watch your video I'll try to set both ends up at the weekend if I can find the pin that comes with them!
Good luck with getting the rear shocks set up Tim.. they are really adjustable so you should be able to make them work for you.. with the front, they could have simply had thicker oil in them to stiffen them up.. so just changing the oil for what's recommended OEM could be all they need ! as for the adjusting pin.. don't bother buying one, just use the back end of an appropriately sized drill bit that fits nice and snug, and wrap some tape round it to protect your hands from the sharp end ! Good luck with it mate.
This video is the confirmation I was looking for on the TEC shocks, thanks. Just waiting for George to get back to me about ordering.
Hi Del, wanted to send you an email but thought you'd pick this up here anyway... I have been binge watching most of your video's... I'm not going to talk about anything I don't like because it's not really useful to you and you probably know from other comments anyway but what I will say is the good stuff...
I really have enjoyed the slow and methodical way you present jobs in a noob friendly way that give's me confidence and a little inspiration to start work on a little project. Due to changes at work my current bike, an Mt09 isn't mission critical anymore and really want to get stuck in with a older project bike, either a CBR600FS or a older carbed Gixxer or Zx7R, (I really like those). I am excited to get stuck in taking everything off and get new discs /pads, exhaust, wheel bearings / fulll valve services and some major servicing/renewing and anything that needs to make it gleam. Your general maintenance guides are really nicely done.
Keep up the good work... I'd love for you to do a P5 zx7r or a CBR900 bug eyes and do all the bits up on one...
I really enjoyed your Scrambler upgrade series.
If you haven't already done one would you have a look into doing a bulb to full LED indicators and lights vid on kit a wiring principles?
I really enjoy his clear, straightforward and understandable points.
Thank You.
care & consideration; as concise as I can put it & keep up the good work.
I really the liked the discription of why a quality spanner is needed in smaller sizes, that was in the earlier replacing the brake or clutch fluid video.
Very much so Bernie, a poor quality spanner can be a liability to any job under 10mm.. and quality tools last longer anyway right..Lol!
One small point - you are in fact incorrect in your understanding of the spring rate, the other guy was right, more coils per length = lower rate, once they go coil bound (inactive) then the rate increases (lower coils/length) and the unit becomes stiffer. That is a spring fact :-) Think of a spring as a torsion bar not a beam bending, it will help to understand the principle.
another great vid can't wait to see how the shocks go. all music is good music, it seems to be a fair bit louder than the talking parts though
3 or 4 years later this video is still being watched.
Another good video Del, like you mentioned the quality of the videos just keep improving..the time you and Penny are spending is obvious..great work and keep it up. On a different note, the Mrs was helping build furniture the other day and said "Don't mince the screw head"...she's been listening to you it seems!!
Thanks buddy, glad to hear the message is getting through lol... glad you notice the time spent on these things, it's a day to make and a day to edit now, so four days a week doing this, but hey wouldn't do it if we didn't love it !
Like your explanation of progressive spring rate. Off to ride my new Speed Twin..just ordered some OEM Triumph Ohlins from a Thruxton for the SpeedTwin.
Another seemingly simple subject, really well explained.
Nice one!
Thanks buddy!
Billiant Job Mate... Darn i cannot wait to pop all my questions your way, when i start fiddling on my Thruxton
Hi, your videos have been a great inspiration for me. Now, I have starting working myself on my Bonneville A3 more and more.
I am considering a suspension upgrade. Presently my stock feels very stiff and under sprung. I want to have a more comfortable ride. My available options are the YSS G-series vs YSS Z-series. Which one will you suggest considering my requirement?
Would love to see a vid about replacing rear shock oil. Love your vids. You have been really helpful to this newbie garage mechanic.
Most shocks can't be disassembled without specialist equipment, it's not something you normally do, you just replace them!
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Oh man... Just great.... Learned a briliant subject about shocks..
great video del i do enjoy watching you do these jobs as your very knowledgeable & explain things so people can understand them.
would you say doing mods/upgrades definitely add value to a bike only with cars it's the opposite & can devalue it as well as turning people of buying.
looking forward to the next video mate :-)
Hi buddy, interesting point indded... and modifying a car can enhance it's value, but it has to be done in a very particular way... with cars, it's more about improving the specification, add leather, air con, alloys, and a discreet classy looking body kit, and you definitely enhance the value...add a sub-woofe,r on the other hand, and perhaps some snazzy neon lights under the chassis, and, erm... well, you know the rest!
Another good vid , more knowledgeable now than 30 mins ago
Worked with YSS.Really good parts
(P) I'm loving the latest videos! Definitely a difference noticed with the editing. I like the "rainy day" video intro, the black and white scenes mixing in with color, and even the "rap" music, as mentioned before, lol! I consider it more hip hop though. Mixes things up for sure! I bet Miss Pitstop can't wait for some warm weather...the Scrambler is, no doubt, gonna be a treat to ride! Do you plan on filming some of the on-the-fly suspension adjustments?! I know filming might take some of the joy out of the ride, and adjustment process, but I bet it would be content we'd all enjoy! Keep up the great work D & P!!!
Thanks buddy. you are very kind.. the process of tuning will be over a few weeks, not just a ride up the road, the weather is still cold and wet here, so once we get the right day, we can start tweaking things... but its not a thing that would make a video.. its just riding and making small changes to iron out any imperfections... Got a suspension upgrade on the Harley next, so still got work to do on the bench yet..!
Really Enjoyed this. It would be great to go through the actual adjustment process also based on a ride but i can imagine that would be a nightmare to film / produce. Also it would be great to see a service type series. showing all the things for a particular bike as an example reference for most bikes.
one of the things i'm struggling with is knowing if i should change settings or not. What is it i would feel when riding to know that i need adjustment A,B,C
(P) Hi Del. I'm really seeing a more professional approach coming out here... Both in the editing, and the content... You're being more concise, advising correct torque settings (for the novice, who has not had the experience of the "feel" of fasteners)...
This past half dozen videos seem to be a new era for Del Boy's Garage, and it's really exciting and warming to see.
"You get out what you put in", as someone once said :-)
No doubt. I was watching a video he made years ago (Bandit Oil change).
Didn't torque any bolts, no washer on the drain plug. Now, with the Triumph, it was far more professional.
I guess with more novice riders wanting to work on their bikes, it makes sense.
With our popularity we will enivitably enherit the responsibility to be more educational and specific, also, the keyboard critics love to pick up on the tiniest omission, so here it is, laid out, but believe me, when I work on my bikes alone, I do it the way I always have!
Thank you Martin, we really appreciate that you notice, the post production is a big ol' task these days.. so glad you notice - hope you're well, all the best, D&Px
Thanks Paul, just trying to grow with experience... !
True enough, but I still watch and love the old stuff
Thanks for another great video. Good technical info and I had a laugh at "riding on what's left of the road" as well! However, I would take issue with the assertion that after market shocks and such improvements add value to the bike for the following owner. Those bits and bobs are terribly dear when first bought, they'll be unusual if they represent a 10 percent return on their as-new price when the owner is ready to sell. I'd say go ahead and invest in the improvements for the pleasure they give you when you ride your pride and joy; don't expect the next owner to value them much at all.
I will disagree with you buddy... you speak from a 'buyers' standpoint there.. obviously nobody wants to pay for extras..but simple fact is, they WANT those extras...so once you list your bike, factor in about 30% of the price of those items, then you can negotiate from there.. after all, true value it what ever the next guy will pay you for it aye.!
thanks for explaining the fully ajustable shocks del.
Hi Del & Mrs Pitstop.
Love your uploads and your editing!
But I want to see a seventh episode with a front suspension upgrade 💪💪
Regards from Denmark
Maybe next year Jakob, we're a bit spent out on this bike for now... Thanks for your kind words my friend.
Awesome vid Del learnt so much from watching all your vids thank you. 👍
Awesome job with the threadlock! I dont think you can have such a detailed and carefull job in any dealership in the world
You maybe right Alberto, but then im not in a time limit like the workshop tech guys are.. !
Hi Del, like the Pun 'Whats left of the Roads' Council's please take note...!
Martin / Wiltshire
BRILLIANT video !! , Please keep making videos as they are so helpful ,10/10 :-)
Thanks, will do!
Hi Delboy (sorry, don't know your name), I'm the chap with CB1300 and if you remember we coincidentally met at Muderford Quay while you're sitting outside of the cafe - Nice talking to you. I came across this video while looking for YSS shocks reviews. My YSS G-series have started leaking in less than a year and I'm now in the process of claiming. I thought this might be useful for this video. I initially spotted some greasy residue on the shock shafts, but now I can see oil collecting on the lower mount. Let's see how well YSS will deal with my warranty case - I'll share my experience here. Thanks again for all your time and efforts.
Wow really, that's a bit of a shock (excuse the pun) I guess all products are given a warranty for this reason, and I guess any company is measured by how it looks after you in exact cases like this... and am confident Wemoto will step up and take care of you (that is if you got them from them), and I'm pretty sure, at least I hope, that maybe you just have a duff one, am really interested to keep up with this, so keep posting it here buddy, we're all ears.... was great to chat when we met, hope you got home safe and sound, catcha again some day aye?
Learn something new everyday. Thanks for the spring rate explanation.
Glad to help
Excellent video thank you. I'm looking for a fitment for these shocks for my Speed Twin but as yet there is none. Looked at the Triumph Fox piggyback shocks and see that the progressive spring is reversed compared to the YSS. Any thoughts on that and would you recommend the Fox?
Hi there, I can't comment how YSS build their shocks, I know they're good quality, and I've nver dealt with Fox shocks... I believe TEC Bike Parts are doing some great quality gas shocks for the Speed Twin, check out their website!
Gt video again bet penny can't wait to get out on it. Looking forward to getting back to the project though....spring is deffo coming!! Time for me to get the Z1000 out from winter hibernation.👍🏻
Z1000?? Is it a proper one?? Or one of them fast fancy transformers modern ones?? !
Moonfleet41 it's a 2010 model, summer toy had years of riding in the bad weather now I choose when I get on it!
I think we all get to that in the end buddy.. no fun in riding in the wet and salt... nothing to prove... so why punish yourself.. !
Hi Del & Penny, fantastic delivery once again, great explanation, great camera work too Penny, keep up the fantastic work guy's.
My question is, if you're going to change the wheels, tires, exhaust and suspension anyways, is the Street Twin or T100 Bonneville essentially the same, or would it be better off in some way to start with the street twin or Bonnie? I ask because I'm considering one of the three bikes. I like spoked wheels, but if they rust on three months, I've have to buy aftermarket wheels anyways, so it doesn't matter what wheel they come with. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I've already got a ZX14R, so I'd like a nice classic machine like this, for the road. Thanks.
Hi there, thats a good thinking plan... This bike is a 2013 model, and the engine was the reason for choosing it as it has the 270 crank, and gives the sound we wanted.. but now i think they are all 270, and that choice is made for you... so all i would do now, (as im not totally up on the latest models), is to have a long, "stand back look" and all three bike,s and identify what components you are NOT CHANGING, and then you may be able to see what the bike will look like when your project is done.. then you can hack out the best deal on the model you need... Hope that helps mate.. good luck with it. Del.
semi new subscriber here, i really enjoy this series of videos, keep up the good work.
Love all the videos guys. Also enjoying this intro music, reminds me of Atmosphere
Thanks buddy.. much appreciated.. D&Px
Thank you, it's so helpful.
Really clear explanation on the progressive springs but is there any difference when the tightly spaced springs are at the bottom as they are on my Ikon shocks fitted to my T100?
Hi Ian, no not really, it makes no difference on a stand alone shock absorber for the rear, it only really has an effect inside a fork leg and even then it's only minor.
Thank you again Del. I have now bought a 2008 Bonny EFI (first injection model) with 8000km on the clock - brand new looking! I want to do the whole maintenance on it including your recommanded air filter (not the trow away one - as you recommend!) what are the recommended brands for the oil, airfilter, breakfluid etc... (any more?) changes I want to do before the spring come?
Many thanks
Great informative video as always Del, I'm currently looking to buy some taps for the exact purpose of cleaning old Loctite out of threads. I saw you using a wire wheel but is it possible to use a die to clean bolts? Might invest in a set of both if that's the case. Looking forward to seeing a review on how Penny likes the new shocks!
Yes mate, you can use a die, you will probably get them in the set with your taps anyway, but even a die won't remove the tiniest deposits of Threadlock, unless you set the die so close and tight to the thread that you can actually start cutting metal, and obviously that's no good, as you can damage the bolt itself! I like the wire wheel cos it polishes everything nice and bright without being aggressive enough to damage anything...
I really want to change my suspension up but i want it so much softer, would the tech shocks be able soften it up? Not in it for the handling, I need a comfy place to be for hours on end.
edit, 500 pounds isnt too much really, Im a firm believer that the most expensive/important thing you can do to any vehicle is suspension work. i used to have a Spec-V sentra and threw something like 3000 dollars at it with full JIC coilovers, nismo bushes, bars and arms. every penny well spent.
Great series Del, i just replaced pads and plugs yesterday those couple of videos made an already easy job that much easier and entertaining.
Love to see your front up-side-down shock upgrade video. I am thinking of doing the same on my 2016 Moto Guzzi V7 Stornello. Don't know what yellow shocks I should install(Kawasaki?)
Great video and really helps. Thanks a ton. Cheers.
Good vid and Some more funky sounds there dude 🎼🎼who are they.?? just ordered me shocks finally for the old iron they do them in black now 👍🏻
Hi buddy, the links to the music are underneath the video, it's all from Chillhop records, name of the artists and the songs all there in the list... ! Good luck with Iron - they will make a big difference!
In this video you were going to follow up with an evaluation of the YSS rear shock over the TEC shocks? Did you ever come to a conclusion if it was a worth while upgrade given the price difference?
Would love to see video of Penny dialing this setup in as I'm bit of a sucker for wanton violence in riding (I originally went from dirt to tarmac as far as motorcycles go). Somewhere suitably bendy to keep it semi-legal, obviously
Its just such a liability these days Jan, the authorities watch youtube, and you hand them a gold plated conviction the moment you post your video... the dialing in process isn't an hour out and about.. its weeks of riding and feeling if the bikes right, making small changes then ridding to see if that better... so it takes a long time mate.. and not something we can make a video of obviously...
The wall is looking damn good! Brilliant notating the torque settings in text buddy. Not sure when you sleep! Looking forward some Fat Boy action.
Ahh Sleep... yeah, i remember that !!... filmed this from about 9am onward.. post production from 3pm, till just after midnight... and filmed the Prize draw video this evening, ready for tomorrow (so we can have a day off), then filming the Fatboy video on Monday morning...hope to have it ready for upload by bedtime... busy busy... lol
Yes you are so right as to do it yourself can safe money and your segments to the viewers are very helpful thanks again.
Thank you very much for your support!
Great stuff del .....i really appreciate these videos
From my view, it looks like the springs on the YSS shocks are larger diameter gauge wire (spring is beefier). That is also my impression of the weakness of the TEC lowering shocks. When you shorten suspension travel vis spring height, you need a beefier spring than stock sec. With the lowering shocks, you loose half your remaining travel, just sitting on the bike. I have 9 full turns on my TEC lowering shock springs now, first time riding it in the year I've had them that they didn't bottom out (bump stop pushed all the way), it doesn't ride there, but hitting that stop can accordion your spine. Does "WEMOTO" ship to the US?
Wow, I am about to buy a 2021 bonneville and I'm so glad I came across your channel. I'm only 10 minutes into your explanation of the shocks and I already subscribed. Thanks for your straight to the point, no nonsense information, much appreciated. I will need to know more about these things before buying. Do you think it's worth buying a T120? I don't mind spending more to upgrade parts here and there if it's a great bike overall.
Hi mate and welcome aboard, and YES the T120 is definitely worth it... that model in particular over the Speed Twin or the Scrambler, because it specifically has the HT engine (high torque), having owned one myself I was so shocked by the nature of the performance that I looked up some numbers to see how it makes its power, and due to a heavyweight flywheel inside the engine, they produce their peak torque way down low at 3200rpm... and in top gear you're cruising at 60mph at about 2500rpm so when you want to overtake you just twist the throttle, leave the gears alone, and ride that massive torque surge as it pulls and pulls and pulls... honestly, get a test ride on one and you'll see what I mean, everyone who owns one will tell you, it's insane fun just riding the awesome torque surge, it truly is an incredible engine... the Speed Twin is a revvier engine and you need to use the gears more and the Scrambler is totally different again, but the Bonneville T120 is a total 'torque monster' and you definitely won't regret it! Good luck.
Thanks for the reply. I appreciate this information, especially coming from someone who works on bikes. I also like the low end torque, which why I am considering this bike and also a harley road king. I was just a bit worried because triumph and harley don't rate as well as the japanese brands as far as reliability. Anyway, thanks again for the info, it will help in my decision to buy. Good luck with the channel.
@@Ephesians-xt4xc Just one point of context there, I've had many Triumphs and a great many Harley Davidsons over the years, and the modern versions of both brands are equally as reliable as any Japanese brand... often you will find that negative experiences posted online by new owners can get blown out of proportion and certainly with Harley Davidson, I would say a modern Road King with the M8 engine is head and shoulders above any of the competition in many ways... not in every way, some use more advanced technology, Harley Davidson do like to keep a foot in the past to retain their heritage image, but like for like, and above all else, a Harley Davidson will hold it's value better than anything from Japan. And if you're making a big investment, that has to be of relevance, Good luck with your choice, maybe test ride a few options and we hope you enjoy whichever one you choose.
Hi, it's coming along nicely. I have been thinking of changing the shocks on my Scram so they might be worth a look. Not sure how much the postage will be to Tassie 😉 Love the wheels on Penny's bike, if you are looking to upgrade the front end I hear 675 front end slips straight in. Might be the go ?
Thanks Phil, got something in mind buddy. !
Hi there Del and Penny. Cannot say how much I appreciate your videos. They are spot on with now questions open. Sorry to see this vet only now. I bought the TEC reach shocks just over a year ago. The road conditions here in Colombia are as you described it. Riding on what is left of the road many tines. My rear right shock bent and broke and the guys from TEC USA where very kind and send me a replacement although the one year guarantee was gone. Now, actually today, I fitted the new TEC rear shocks. Seeing now the YSS suspension,,,,well,, too late. Anyway, its a good recommendation for the next time. How does Penny rate her new YSS shocks ? Ride safe, Ber
Hey Bernhard, good to hear from you my friend. The TEC shocks are by no means a second rate item... they never let me down, and totally transformed the handling on the Scrambler we have... i only found the YSS shocks recently too, and they are better in build finish, look far nicer visually... but as for performance, i would have to poush the bike very hard to notice any real difference between them and the TEC items... The reason of this i think is that the with TEC shocks the work goes all into the performance of them, and not so much the glossy finish... they are way better "Bang-for-your-buck" than the YSS and thats for sure..
Enjoy your bike buddy, you live in a beautiful place..
All the best.
Del.
sweeeet I'm looking forward to that.....yeah that's a heavy old lump of iron 👍
Put this stuff on a DVD with an "episode section" for each lesson. I'd buy it. And a one for my mate too.
Great video music is cool.
Thank you
Penny's bike is looking proper sweet now with them shocks and goldie lookin chain! :)
Ha ha, Goldie looking chain... remember them..! Thanks buddy. she's very happy with the bike.
Excellent as always - also enjoying your new music being an old 'clubber'
Thanks mate... long time since Grand Master Flash aye..!
"The Message" its a classic - profound social commentary (if you want to think that deep)...
True dat.. listen to the words of 'Loose Change' in this video...not much has changed in the last 35 years...
Another brilliant video. Shame you weren't making these thirty years ago... :)
Too right buddy, I was making bikes back then, but they were the days of phone boxes and even an electric typewriter was posh!
Is the height adjustment thread the same size as the Tec shocks? As I've got the Tec twin shocks with the added 30mm adjustment would be great if it fitted into the yes shocks too.cheers
Sadly it's not the same diameter or thread Marc, doesn't fit in any way. I had to make a pair myself on the lathe.
Hi Del great video thanks 👌
Another excellent video Delboy. I have heard of a proposal in the U.S to essentially outlaw DIY auto (motorcycle) repairs and performance upgrades. I believe it would be fully insurance/liability driven. Thus any work done on your vehicle is by a licensed mechanic using oem spec parts. Nothing can go wrong (know it alls), nobody gets offended (loud exhausts) nobody gets hurt (oops I forgot brake pads.) All part of the autonomous self driving car movement most likely. Probably won't ever happen in our lifetime but worrying nonetheless.
Keep wrenching while you can...
Paah, that old chestnut again... they've been mumbling that bullshit for 30 years mate... and every time a keen new dudly-do-right bike-hating junior minister thinks he has a bright idea... they dont get past the first hurdle, because any proposed ban on aftermarket parts has to prove they are of a lesser quality than OEM parts.....and as we all know... OEM parts these days fall far short of the awesome quality of top line aftermarket stuff... i mean lets stand an OEM Factory Triumph shock absorber next to a YSS G-Series like in this video... the difference is laughable... the factory junk this bike came with was a damn liability mate.... so Dudly will have to get the factories to pull their saggy assed pants up before they dictate to us what we can do to improve the dangerous junk the bike came with...... i mean lets face it.. if my bike came with YSS shocks, then why would i want to upgrade them?.. im just doing what the lazy cheapscate manufacturer failed to do right in the first place.. and that goes for Harley Davidson too... i changed my Softail shocks for YSS today... the change it breathtaking.. it rides like a new bike... !.... Like you said, its the brainless fumblings of the electric car brigade and wont ever get past first base in our lifetimes..!
Moonfleet41 I hadn't realized it's been an issue for so long. My naivety makes me think it was a new idea.
Damn fine mini series that was BTW.
Yeah its nothing new.. but as after market parts have got so good, and the factories cut costs to make more profit..they will never have an argument any more... none of us would bother modding bikes if they didnt need it aye..!
(p) Nice video Dell, with good theory part. just one more question: Why manufacture dont put better shocks on this bike? Is it because of people who want use it on gravel?
Delboy thanks once again for another great video. 1 question what happens when the shock is installed upside down? is it just a look or is there some performance difference or issue? thanks Steve
Generally its taken that shocks must be mounted the right way up...any writing on them will determine that for you... but shocks vary, and some can be mounted upside down, some cant..!
I bought a T120 in May and I have recently changed the rear shocks for some EMC ones Made in France. I'm not happy. They're really stiff so I sent them back to be made more 'comfortable'.
The retuned set are better but still so stiff even nearly on max clicks to full softness. Wonder what I'm doing wrong... If I increase compression when my wife is on to stop it bottoming, it's way to stiff on my own. Maybe the YSS would have given me more compression damping possibilities ?
Great video, thank you. Do you need to grease the bushes on these shocks?
No, a good clean joint and just slip it on!
This series on truimph is awsum
We get these YSS shocks for INR 40000 (GBP 400) in India, which is quite a lot of money.
I had a question about using these shocks for two-up riding on a Street Twin. The OEM shocks are too soft, even at a setting of 4, and bottom out on bad roads. Also, on undulated highways, they make the bike wallow a fair bit, which isn't confidence inspiring at all.
After two years of using these (considering you still have this bike), would you recommend this purchase as a significant value add for two-up riding?
Firstly my friend, thank you for your message and yes, I would definitely recommend the YSS shocks over the poor quality standard ones... they are certainly worth the money, but to be sure that your new ones will be strong enough for your intended use, then perhaps enquire with YSS as to whether you can get some uprated springs, otherwise they will be matched to the weight capacity of the Triumph shocks... if you can uprated the spring rate, you will definitely have a better shock,... and after 2yrs on these shocks, they are still like new!
Heh del.......just a little question.....have you or penny had a go on the new street scrambler for 2017 yet. I am liking the look of it, but would value your opinion on it.
What's the verdict on these shocks Del? I'm thinking of getting some in the near future for my Triumph America. Also have the Tec Shocks on them right now but the ones I've got only have pre-load on them and I want more adjustment on them. Did you get or set any Static Sag on these YSS Shocks?
Hi Martin, these are great shocks, but I wouldn't go as far to say 'great for the price'... Ohlins are three times as good, but they're not a lot more money, if that makes sense! What I'm getting at is that your TEC shocks are the best value on the market, they're partly adjustable and for what they cost they'll give you a great ride that is better than factory stock... but to pay nearly 5x as much for YSS they're certainly not 5x better.. Yes, I set a little sag and they're a great ride, but I probably wouldn't buy them again... Hope that helps!
@@Moonfleet41 Thanks Del for the info. I suppose it all comes down to how much you're willing to pay and how comfortable you want your ride. Cheers Mate
good tune dell.
Keep up those good vids.
Dont lose yourselfs in the sponsors.
We have no "sponsors" yet buddy... these are a real time purchase, we got a price, yeah, but nobody gave us a free lunch mate... and real sponsors pay your bills... cheap parts are just a little treat now and again... nobody on youtube gets real genuine sponsorship..! glad you enjoyed the video mate.