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- Following the arrival of the last creature for Ark: Survival Evolved, we take a look at the new Carcharodontosaurus. Is it better than the Giga? Let's find out!
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3:15 "all gigas in the area" don't go into a rage? It's only the one giga that got damaged that will rage. it's a very core aspect of giga fights in pvp that whoever rages first usually loses, though raged gigas can and will attack everything nearby and maybe cause a chain reaction if left unchecked.
Thanks for pointing this out! It seems that you might be right. I only play PvE, so i haven't really used the giga, but i will run some tests first, and then place a marker in the video with a correction.
The giga USED to enrage all nearby allied gigas when enraged. It's been awhile, but Spart says they don't use the gigas that often.
U can also take advance of the roaring engraved giga and get some real damage on it. Meanwhile the carchar. Can really heal completely off 1 hit in a few seconds cuz bloodrage. Not to mention carchars have a much better overall hp multiplier when mutated and same with stamina. The carchar is significantly better in missions and osds.
Yea this was how my wife and I dealt with raids on togas. Used two bread rexes and tag teamed till it raged then just keep biting the tail while it kills the raid 😂
@@Quthology certain missions you dont have multiple creature to kill tho so the gigas are better but on ones with many creature carcharo is soo much nicer but in the end of the day get both xD
Giga definitely desperately needs a TLC… if only the giga TLC mod was integrated into the base game
lmao whats the point of a tlc.
@@trcacl they make dinos better
@@lilrott3nbut soon ark 2 will realease
@@Dino49284 I didn't say we need more. I was just saying what they are
@@lilrott3n ok
Thank you for this video and lying down everything we need to know in this comparison😁👍🏼
Giga's on PVE have top Dmg so far since they are capped. Carchar's beiing worked on. Carchars, move fast, can push past trees with ease and get over most rocks. They have a pretty good fall damage. so you can jump off quite a bit of cliffs without worry and they regain health faster than gigas. If capped to max dmg carchars will decimate especially with 100% buff. Tail whip amazing for gen 2 boss fight. Extinction drops a must. Carchars turn so much easier. Easy to get food with carchar because of speed. Theres more but can't think been up all night lol. For me Carchar all the way.
yeahi agree mostly but certain missions or bosses you dont have many creatures to kill for the buff so gigas are so much more damage in that case, also just having it as a pocket giga to kill straight away the gigas is better other than that i love my carchas, so much less boring to ride as well
@@charlieward7606 Well on boss fights, mainly you cant bring gig'as or carchars along as the game wont let you. Open world bosses depends on the boss. As I stated Gigas for years ppl have raised their melee level cap, carchars start with higher melee at wild to tamed levels. Once they hit cap they will be a huge force. Yes gigas and carchars both have their charms. i just think carchars use will be much more useful for pve and even against a giga in pve with its turn radius compared to gigas
Carchar just seems to have a bit more use than giga, and that blood rage do be busted tho
I think the Carcharo is a bit underrated when it comes to damage, my father has his Gigan at a base damage of 50% imprinting at 70%. Meanwhile my Carcharos’ that I’ve recently started breeding have 50% base damage imprinting to 76%. I think well bred Carcharos will become far more comparable as they settle into the game.
Wdym bro it barely came out almost 3 weeks ago its Hella overrated
@@150Nameless it definitely isnt overrated. its very good and honestly a great overall mount. its fast, more stamina than giga, when at 100 stacks does more damage than a giga (its very easy to get 100 stacks), and is great for minibosses on fjordur. not to mention its a lot easier to tame. you don't even need a trap, you just need to bring corpses to it
@@jangofett9083 yeah that's the definition of overrated everyone loves it right now cause it's new and I understand
@@150Nameless because it’s very good?
@@150Nameless the word you're looking for is hyped up. But I believe rightly so. When the stat mutations come in a few months they will outshine gigas
I never realized hes so damn fast when he kills something, and i thought spino’s were scary!
I'm loving the health regen of the carc, it's the only dino that I can ignore its health and just keep killing, it replaced my giga on pve already
True, the regen is insane.
What map did you find yours on? I’m been looking for a couple days in single player island
Hey bro, you have to look in the usual Giga spawn spots. If you don't find one, you might have to kill the Giga first. I suggest a wild dino wipe.👍
Basilo and daeodon have the same regen
Yeah mine kills Titano's without too much trouble, it's so fast you can walk backwards with it and the titan can't hit you while you steadily whittle down its hp.
I think you were right on. I agreed with your assessment entirely. Well explained!
Carharo all the way cause damage AOE and playability (stamina wont end that quickly and speed). A real travel partner lol. Ty WC!
Why can’t we all agree that having both the gig and carch will greatly increase your game play. Sure gig will kill the carch as syntac showed in one of his videos. Carch has several different aspects that make it worth taming and having. And well gigs will be gigs! Lol
That was a very informative video
Great video man easy sub
Comparing a Rex to a Raptor in comparison to a Giga makes more sense now that there is a gigantic Allo as well😁
Giga is a risk to the rider and it’s allies, I’d use the giga as a suicidal battering ram for gates or drop a few inside the base to wreck havoc on the survivors and tames left unchecked, while waiting for them to kill the suicidal Gigas or waiting till the rage is done I’ll head in with the carch, yuty, direwolves and Rex army to get rid of the last of the tames. Obviously if it’s metal and tek it’s going to be hard but a man can dream
It take my level 166 wyvern and level 538 Pter to kills giga. My wyvern gave 2 thousand plus damages and my pter gave 500+ damaged. Giga killed bunches of my pters single before. I gave wyvern and pter a lot of damages and healths and more staminas.
To beat giga, gonna need a lot of tamed animals.
@@justinbenefiel me who beat a 150 corrupted giga with a poison wyvern: I have no such weakness
the giga looks so terrifying
carcharo requires less mutations since it can stack damage quickly with his kill buff and killing larger creatures (even unclaimed ones or enemy ones) will increase the counter by a lot
its also faster, heals faster, dont rage, has a slightly higher stam, can speed buff other dinos, can decrease incomming heal in enemy dinos and players and also slows anything with this debuff
The Carchar is awesome! Looks amazing!
you would piss yo pants when you heard the giga War roar 5 miles away
the only thing the giga really does better is AEO, Carcha will easily rage a giga 1v1 and get 2-3 bites while the giga does it raging animation making the 500 more base damage useless not even counting the rapid healing that counter acts the gigas higher base dmg when both full raged, carcha can easily tail whip a raged giga away avoiding the rage damage, Carcha will easily be able to 1v2 1v3 giga with raging giga and knocking them away with its right click
both at 254points in damage Carcha wins and its not even close
Such cap that it’s gonna 1v2 or 1v3 lol realistically no one is gonna let you build up your damage on the carch before attacking so most fights you aren’t gonna take out a giga head on. A mix of gigas and carch would be pretty meta for ground pvp
@@devonpelley3832 legit takes 2 levelled turtle to cap its rage out 💀
yeah i would never give someone time to bloodrage their carchar, the carchar CAN be better but there is another drawback no one seems to talk about. carchar saddle bps are so much more rare than giga bps, thats a big deal, in the time that ive gotten several good giga bps ive only found one good carchar bp that isnt even up to my standards and is mega expensive. a giga with a 190 armor saddle is going to outperform a carchar with a 50 armor saddle no question.
@@Exquailibur 190 armour 💀 and legit only takes 2 turtles to fully rage the carcha so good luck stopping that 🤣
@@TheWeejohn96 Fair enough, all im saying is that im not throwing away my gigas since the carchar isnt as consistent all the time.
I like carcharo just cos of it's design 😂
It's inaccurate but it's cool
@@dayiso7712 It's honestly not that inaccurate. The size and the spikes are inaccurate, but the model in general is pretty solid. It's much better then the clusterf**k that is the giga.
Bro I'm so sad. I found a beautiful 95 carcharodontosaurus in the snow that I wanted to tame, and I found a throw away level 15 that I tamed because it was the opposite gender, so I practice taming on the 15 and move on to the level 95, only to find out she's gone. Now I have a useless carchar that only does 85 damage, and I can't even ride it till I gain 10 more levels
Keep working bro😉👍
lol i remember doing this same test and thinking "This would make a good youtube video"
carcharo requires less mutations since it can stack damage quickly with his kill buff and killing larger creatures (even unclaimed ones or enemy ones) will increase the counter by a lot ,..,.
Definitely prefer carcs, outside of pvp and titans they are far nicer to work with, because of their insane regen you don't have to worry about cliffs (as much) as they will out heal the fall damage, they can go non stop through all OSD at 100+ melee they don't even need saddles to do it, they out class the Giga on gen missions just due to no enrage and their speed/mobility.
Verry nice video I don't like the people how set the carcha on top only because it's the newest dino. End looks cool.
I would say the Carchar are really good for OSDs cause you always have 100% buff
i would still consider using the Giga but if you want a fast easy strong tame early in the server surely go for the char
Having a fast, easy, strong tame early in the server might put you ahead of the other tribes.🤔
@@SpartacusSurvives ya that's what I'm saying
@@SearnyOP nope carcha smokes the giga in almost every category only thing the giga have above it is slightly bigger aoe and not needing to hunt to unlock its full potential. carcha is also a lot easier to tame than gigas
@@Villosa64 did you see what I said? read what I said again before commenting absolutely cap and I said char is easy to tame again giga>>>>>>>>>char
@@SearnyOP giga isnt better than char
How do i get the old carcharodontosaurus b4 it got huge and op?
The nerfed the giga into the ground only bred ones are insanely op now. I mean they did need a nerf but not as bad as they did. They used to to be able to take on thousands of tames with np cause they would just one to two shot most tames. Enraged they go absolutely bonkers.
How does it work if I want to play with the old additional creatures car car. And the new a r k one?
Honestly, I dont know. I think it should work, since I don't think they share spawn points. But I'm not very experienced with mods, so I might be wrong.
@@SpartacusSurvives ok, thanks for trying!
Giga will always be my fav.if carcha didn't have that pathetic roar I'd be all over it but emersion is important, and there's just a feeling you get on a giga you can't get from other dinos.however,carcha is faster,more agile,and lack of rage mode makes it more ideal in pvp settings.pve and single player don't have to worry bout that so it's preference really.but it does seem faster for those meat runs to load the hatchery if using a carcha.but ultimately the giga will be my favorite tame in this category
Im gonna miss ark 1 so much
Big love for Ark 1.
im actually impressed by the balancing technique done to char
Sooo is this Dino being added to ark mobile, or just for console, and pc??
Tbh, char has better anims, model and sounds than giga in every aspect.
I like the giga roar more I was very disappointed when I heard the roar of the char
Guy woke up and chose to speak lies.
Its like the giga is an older model that the cacha WOW!!
the giga will always instill primal fear in any who stand against it
@@jrinc6467 yeah very relatable
It's been years since the incident... But every time I see a giga it reminds me of logging on to ark and seeing my base in shambles with with a gaping hole leading to the outside. I took a breath, and checked tribe log only to see that the poor fool who broke into my base somehow lost a 220 something Giga, 2 Rexes, and a few other assorted tames to the 40 odd hyenas I had chilling in the back of my base lol
Poor dude didn't even get any of my loot as it was hidden outside my base 😂
Hyaenodons are great, ngl
@@SpartacusSurvives agreed
Giga has a good roar. But Carchar is much stronger. When both are topstats and fully imprinted ☝️ Mine slaughters wild gigas with ease and super healing and damage increase per kill. So the isn’t impressive at first, but the carchar is invincible once it has a kill streak. It can kill even wild gigas lv 150
Now raiding a base trying to be quite is hard with a giga as you can hear them from a good distance but the carc is better for raiding base without really being heard right off the bat
The damage should have been tested in dps not Base damage
Yes, DPS would have been more accurate. However, I decided to use the base damage instead, because both of them have *_almost_* the same attack speed.
@@SpartacusSurvives The base damage of the Carcha is 528, the giga and carcha gets a reduction of -80% when tamed.
When talking about health you said the Giga vs. Carcharo had a 1,000 point difference. However, on your chart, you showed that the Giga has a base health of 80,000 vs. a Carcharo having 70,000, which would be a difference of 10,000 health points.
To compare the tamed versions of the Giga vs. Carcharo you have to use a formula. This is the formula for figuring out the health of a tamed dino...
Health points = (Base health * (1 + # of levels into health * (Wild level increase on wiki / base value of stat on wiki)) + additive taming bonus on wiki) * (1 + taming effectiveness * multiplicative taming bonus)
This is a fair comparison of a tamed Giga vs. a tamed Carcharo with each having no levels distributed into health and a 99.71% taming effectiveness inputed into the formula...
Giga (tamed)
V = (80000 * (1 + 0 * (40/80000)) + -63000) * (1 + 0.9971 * 0 * 0)
V = (80000 * (1 + 0) - 63000) * (1 + 0)
V = (80000 * 1 - 63000) * 1
V = 80000 - 63000
V = 17,000 health
Carcharo (tamed)
V = (70000 * (1 + 0 * (56/70000)) + -54000) * (1 + 0.9971 * 0 * 0)
V = (70000 * (1 + 0) - 54000) * (1 + 0)
V = (70000 * 1 - 54000 * 1
V = 70000 - 54000
V = 16,000 health
*Max Bloodrage buff increases healing by 1.75x
In the damage section, you're talking about their base damage wild, not tamed. They both do get the same amount of debuff after taming. They both receive a -80% damage taming bonus additive. So, both of them are equally disadvantaged by this debuff. Here is the formula for damage...
Melee damage% = (Base melee damage% * (1 + # of levels into melee damage * (Wild level increase on wiki / base value of stat on wiki)) + additive taming bonus on wiki) * (1 + taming effectiveness * multiplicative taming bonus)
Here is a Giga and Carcharo with each having no levels in melee damage and 99.71% taming effectiveness...
Giga (tamed)
V = (1 * (1 + 0 * (25/500)) + -0.80) * (1 + 0.9971 * 0.4 * 0)
V = ((1 + 1 * 0) - 0.80) * (1 + 0)
V = (1 - 0.80) * 1
V = 20%
Carcharo (tamed)
V = (1 * (1 + 0 * (10.55/211)) + -0.80) * (1 + 0.9971 * 0.4 * 0)
V = ((1 + 1 * 0) - 0.80) * (1 + 0)
V = (1 - 0.80) * 1
V = 20%
Both would result in a total of 20% melee damage with 1 level into the melee damage stat. So, now simply multiply that (20%) times their base melee damage value to determine their raw damage output...
Tamed Giga with 1 level in melee damage and 99.71% taming effectiveness
20% of 500 = 100 damage
Rage mode (2x damage) = 100 x 2 = 200 damage
Carcharo with 1 level in melee damage and 99.71% taming effectiveness
20% of 211 = 42 damage
Max Bloodrage buff (1.75x damage) = 42.2 x 1.75 = 74 damage
In conclusion, after doing all this research and calculations I determined that you are actually pretty spot on with all your findings! All this math doesn't change much because the Giga and Carcharo have the same multipliers. I just am providing some additional information that could prove useful for some people making the comparison.
TLDR: Comparison of Giga vs Carcharo tamed
Giga after tame stats...
Health (0 levels): 17,000
Melee damage (0 levels): 100
Melee damage (0 levels plus Rage mode): 200
Carcharo after tame stats...
Health (0 levels): 16,000
Health (0 levels with max Bloodrage healing buff): 1.75x healing rate
Melee damage (0 levels): 42
Melee damage (0 levels with max Bloodrage buff): 74
I share this because most dinos at level 1 will be very similar to their base creature stats. The debuff that occurs after taming a Giga/Carcharo makes their health and melee damage stats drop significantly making the base stats not a good metric to compare off of.
Apparently this comment was held for review, so it's the first time I'm seeing it. :)) I did a bunch of testing and calculations before making this video, as it was my first proper Ark video, and I wanted it to be perfect. Of course I still made a bunch of mistakes in this one, and it's not a perfect video. I do have to say that you are using the wrong formula to calculate the carchar buff regarding the damage. The damage dealt by carchar at max bloodrage stacks is 42.2 + 42.2 x 1.75= 116.05. Otherwise, great analysis. :))
@@SpartacusSurvives I was about to pull one of these "☝ well actually 🤓", but I took a minute to think about what you said before responding and you are correct! I stand corrected in that regard. It would do 116 damage with the max blood rage buff, I calculated how much the buff would add, but forgot to include the base damage in my final result. Thanks for taking the time to read and respond to my comment. I put a lot of work into it lol.
I agree as in giga lines form in less than a minute and you won't be able to run around chasing wild animals trying to buff your car char, I think that gigas will still remain at the top of pop Dinos
Nice
given time the carc will over take the giga for the damage and lack of rage alone a giga line is useless when you rage in one bite and the appointment dose not and with max blood that regen makes it hard to poke down with bows and shotguns
How does the Char measure up on an Extinction Purple Drop?
Char is the best Companion
Giga is the best Weapon
Bro I have been looking forever for this carchar but I can't find it anywhere. I even looked at spawn maps. Any tips in finding this guy? You'd think it'd be easy because he's so big. On xbox fjordur btw
Hey bro! Carchar shares spawn points with the Giga. It there are Gigas in those spawn points, you will have to kill them and hope to get a Carchar instead. You can also do a wild dino wipe, which is the best thing to do to help new creatures spawn, if you play on your own server/singleplayer.
@@SpartacusSurvives Thank you my brother. I didn't know it was giga or carchar, I tried this and found one earlier!
Carcha has the edge because of the lack of rage. If it’s bred right I’m sure it’ll 1 tap enrage gigas
it wont no matter what unless you play fiber it caps out at 254 points higher you cant lvl in it
Tested this in an ASA singleplayer world with official stats but faster maturation speed and taming speed and such and can definitely confirm that max imprinted and max mutated carchars will wipe the floor of any giga, including max imprinted and max mutated gigas. And it all just comes down to that blasted tail swipe. Raw DPS, the carchar loses by A LOT, but that uncanny ability for the carchar to bloodrage and have a CC attack makes the fight so unbelievably unfair in favor of carchars that I've stopped breeding gigas on the server I actually play on. You can make a giga rage very fast, and then at that point all you have to do is switch from biting to tail swiping since raged gigas are solely controlled by the game's AI. Then it's just a waiting game for how long it takes for the giga to finally die. Once it rages, the carchar wins. And because that CC attack has a 360 degree AOE, you could solo multiple raged gigas. Only shot a giga has against a carchar is if the carchar can't enrage the giga before dying, or if the carchar can't tail swipe often enough because it's rider got picked by a flyer, died some other way, or was just whistled to attack. A ridden carchar is the undeniable king of The Island.
0:42 more like the allosaurus
everything just depends on imp buff saddles mate boost and all that good stuff
I personally think carcharo are better ifffff you get the buff witch can take time to build up fully
Depends on what you're using. Eating someone's tames will fill it up MUCH faster than eating a few dodo's on the beach.
Speed matters more than absurd damage. Decent/ high damage with speed over crazy damage with low speed any day.
That's what I was thinking. If they tank and no riders, no buff, then obviously the giga is better. But just the speed edge means a good rider can 1v 1 any giga with ease and safety. Like a desmodus killing a wyvern, except the desmodus has almost as good of stats as the wyvern.
Yk what ima get both
What about food drain rate ? Giga get starve really fast , Carcha is the same ?
My boy giga is still king of the hill!
Gonna go with basilisk :) I kill both of those dinos 1 on 1 and sometimes 1 on 2 in the oilfields of fjordor. 31k hp 21670 atk. 150s put up a real good fight though.
Let the mutations start for a crazy version of it gigas are powerfull but wondering what a Hatch egg of 1000 +melee would be as end results. Its Just came out let see in time what this beast really can become.
Giga health mutation/lv up is nurfed . Can you make it tanky
For me giga has the second best roar behind reaper
i think the carh gets normal stats per lvl no?
I ran an OSD on Extinction on an unofficial cluster and the Carchar outdid the Giga by far with the giga having a good bit higher base melee
Yeah for OSDs with all those enemies to kill carchars are going to be OP. My pocket giga, GigaChad, can wreck any wild giga he runs into and definitely any wild carchar. They'd have to be bred and imprinted and have a ascendant saddle AND have some smallish things to kill first before they could 1v1 a good tame or wild giga.
@@drew5337 you can kill a wild giga with a primitive saddle and only 60 points in melee in 20 seconds if you have full blood rage and take basically no damage
@@goldie3004 60pts into melee isn't "only" lol, that's crazy though. When they are frenzied I think they must regen health about as fast as the bleed takes it away.
I still have not found any on island, fjordur or lost island maps so far. Checked all giga locations to no avail.
Hey bro! If the Giga locations already have Gigas spawned, you will have to kill the gigas and wait and hope for a Carchar to spawn. You can also use a wild dino wipe. Good luck!
I think you forgot an important detail when it comes to base damage values and that is that poison to damage affect the percent means you have a much larger bang for your buck on a giga getting points in the damage me do you want a car Carp end for the car car. It is going to be exponentially weaker at level compared to the giga.
Reaper king:" am i a Joke to you ?"
We need a charginatosaurus 😂
Why durability for carchar?
Including blood rage is a bit unrealistic since you probably wouldn’t have it built up or even have it when you find a random ass giga chillin
Do the roar
carcharodonto is the best for killing a titanosaurus
Imagine that trilobite knocks down your camera
:))
The way I see it they have slightly different uses, a pocket giga will always be better than a pocket carchar since without time bloodrage the carchar is kinda ass. But for OSDs the carchar will be a great choice. the carchar also has better mobility so id rather use it for meat runs as well.
carchar looks like itl be the best dino to grind pve kills and most pvp combat besides giga, but even then theres a chance due to spamming tail swipe and health regen
the carch is way faster and cooler than the giga.I would choose the carch cause it has fast health reagen if I were to fight the king titan especially since their like yutys with their roar.giga8/10 carch9/10
I like Giga cuz it’s GIGA CHADE
giga for rex lovers
carcha for spino lovers
one of them is heavy and strong
other one is fast and furious
Giga on top baby! Pvp fights with 2k dmg are a breeze 😂
CARCH is definitely far more superior than the giga! Especially considering you have to get the giga to rage and then when it does it will more than likely kill you. nah ill stick with the Carch
irl dinasaurs cant roar so charcha is winner of the roar round for me
Fair enough:))
you are saying charcar is fictional?
@@macewindu4070 no im saying giga is fictional
@@feinhly Your Father is fictional besides Giga being the Biggest charcardontosaurid
my carcho only deals 360 dmg when i get him to the 100 kills base is like 100 smth my lighting wyvren deals 450 with its melle
So in pvp you should build a giga army that you lead with a char
In my opinion, yeah, that's the play. Maybe 2 if you want the mate boost
Hey guys
Does anyone else suffer from the bug where the charchar sniffs a killed body and wont proceed to eat it?
Pls help :1
The world water still reigns supreme.
Is depend of the health not to the number of dinos if you kill 1 dinos with high health you got blood rage faster than you kill very little things
Yes, the amount of bloodrage stacks you get scales with the health of the killed dino. Killing some lvl150 brontos gave me 4, 5 or 6 stacks for each kill, depending on their health. However, killing 6 dillos, dodos, lystos, or other small creatures will increase bloodrage with the same 6 stacks. And I think we can all agree it is easier to kill 6 dillos, regardless of lvl, than a 150 bronto. The health trick is more useful in taming the Carcharodontosaurus, where you can use unclaimed baby dinos with high total health as the best taming method. 😉
You forgot to mention the Debuff the Carcha gives to enemies when he attacks them.
Yes. That is true. The shredding debuff is very usefull against creatures like argentavis, daeodon or even other carchars. But against other creatures, which don't have regen buffs it's not that important. Still, I should have mention it.
The infestation of squerpion
If I’m being honest, the carcharodontosaurus looks like dominion giga because of the head
I think the carc is just gonna be used as a replacement for rexes
Carc is nearly strong as an giga :/
With blood rage he easily wins from an giga
@@Atumalaka3 hahahahaha no
@@uptowndunker6346 he is tho
Giga is the best
I just never use giga, the rage mode is way too dangerous
Bro can someone explain why my charcra is doing 54 damage???
Lvl?
@@SpartacusSurvives its level 3
okay, with all this being said, if u run into a giga, at least you have a chance to kill it lol, carch can beat it. and like all the cons for it, its scary how close it is to the giga
So much for the so called giga killer they were adding
well i just saw a carcha
Ima say giga because purely you can hypothetically tame a carcho when you just spawn in
*Tames either of them*
35% melee ^^
The true kings of ark are troodons!, no matter what lvl u are, they find a way to surprise you & knock ur butt out 🤣
Nothing beats the og
Carcharodontosaurus vs t rex
5:41 it shat a little
the carcharos is for pvp more dinos killed is more damage for him
The giga shit himself when you said the carchar is better 🤣
:))
The carchar is better by far a max melee mutation carchar with full blood rage does almost 2x more damage per hit than a maxed out melee mutation r giga
from what im hearing the blood rage is the biggest deciding factor meaning that if im correct giga is better for extinction bosses because it can retain its damage without having to keep killing things but for generally fighting things it is the worse option