Rockshox Vivid Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ย. 2024
- Rockshox Vivid may be the perfect choice for you! In this review, we'll take a look at it and see if it's worth the investment.
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That shock probably came with the LL tune, which is literally the opposite of what you want as a heavy rider on an ebike. In general as a heavy rider you want a progressive rebound tune (meaning rebound damping increases on bigger hits) and a medium or heavy compression tune unless your rear linkage is super progressive (i.e. Rocky Mountain Altitude), Specialized usually have very linear rear linkage on the Stumpys (and I assume the Kenevos are similar as they use the same clevis based FSR as the Stumpy Evo) and the Enduro is about average on progressivity.
Kenevo in video is a Enduro in almost every way, but your right. My friends Levo with cascade link was like a different world for the shock. Cascade link brings the prepgresison to 35%.
Sounds like you should get the shock tuned for the frame, rockshox ships their shocks with LL tunes, meaning basically 0 compression shim and 0 rebound shim.
It would massively improve if you got it tuned correctly, as you would have more freedom in clickers because you wouldnt be on the last click and you should be able to run less airpressure.
Made the mistake of using off the shelve tunes for suspension once, never again.
I am aware of tuned shocks. The Float X specialized tune is amazing, compared to off the shelf Trek fuel float X is a brick. Not sure about Rockshox specific tune though
@@OtterMTBtech RS has 3 compression tunes and 2 rebound tunes available. They have light/medium/heavy compression tunes and linear/progressive rebound tunes. Most off the shelf RS shocks are light compression/linear rebound or LL. I suspect a Heavy Compression/Progressive rebound tune would play best with the Levo and a heavy rider. This assumes the clevis driven FSR back end of the Kenevo is just as linear as the back end of the Stumpy Evo it's based on.
The Kenevo is is same as the Enduro middle of the road 25%. The Vivid rides best on the air spring, the Compression tune not as big of deal. The bigger compression tune probably has slower rebound would make it ride better. Interestingly I traded my friend the Vivid, and on his Levo with cascade link and the shock settings were much different. 35% progressive with the cascade link Levo @@mrvwbug4423
looking forward to the comparison between the X2 and Vivid. Recently installed the X2 on the Stumpy Evo and it's amazing.
Coming soon! If you love fox you probably won’t love Rockshox 🤫
Good call, fox Comparison, to use his words LeBron vs ???
If you dont have a cascade link.. that thing is a ticking time bomb...I would know. One of the main reasons i switched bikes
The touchdown seems to make the coil work well because you don’t have to lose the poppiness. A video specifically for that setting/tweak would be a good one.
A-Z Rockshox Vivid Ultimate Set up
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Awesome reviews!!! Any recommendations to set up a Vivid Air in a Niner WFO9? Do you know if any of the tunes works better with the CVA suspension system??
Nice vid, somewhat informative and pretty entertaining. If the new vivid was home serviceable it would be a no brainer to get it, but it seems like they put in a gazillion parts in it and requires a bunch of special tools unlike most other RS products. Too bad.
There is always ways around the special tools and Rockshox is always mechanic friendly
@@OtterMTBtech Have you seen the vivid inside? It's unlike other RS products. What I like about the Vivid is that it seems to be an X2 without the reliability problems, but what I dont' like is that it's a X2 when it comes to ease of rebuild.
that´s a common mistake putting tokens ( spacer) instead of more air,what gives you the midstroke it´s the air pressure :)
Rockshox yes fox no
Im thinking about getting the vivid. Im putting it on a levo alloy comp. I weigh 237 pounds. After watching this vid, im worried i wont be able to put enough air in, what do you think.
The none bike specific Rockshox shocks are pure rubbish. I can’t vouch for the bike specific tunes shocks, but I’m sure they are better.
My friend had the cascade link long shock kit. He’s about your weight and says it’s game changer for heavy weights
The factory shock has it installed the other way. Why did you install it that way ?
What bike you got?
@@OtterMTBtech I just ordered the 24 levo with mastermind display. Also just bought the Vivid. I noticed the factory Fox canister is installed the opposite way ?
Great review, world love to see vs the same shock, coil version!
The new Vivid coil or vivid air ?
Coil all day
Stumpy evo 2022 with the new vivid, 78 kg rider weight...how do you adjuste the shox?
I leave the compression open so it pops. Experiment. Probably 0-1 tokens unless you send it
nice review man
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I've had the same on my 2019 Kenovo and the frame is flexing changed to a Fox coil and the same so put on the New Fox DHX2 and spaced the top mount away by 2mm and all good and now Specialized stopped fitting coil shocks only air.
X wing Kenevo?
Don't know what you mean.@@OtterMTBtech
@@Evo836 1st gen Kenevo or the one like mine in the video
Ah got it It's the same with the Downhill Boxxer forks and called the Expert in Europe.@@OtterMTBtech
@@Evo836 They stopped putting coils on them because they snap, but looks like the European Kenevo Comp comes with new beefed up Fox Shock. Something happens to the shock under heavy riding and it flexes really bad into the frame with the Vivid, curious about the spacer thing you mentioned
That lockout doesnt seem right. From all the reviews Ive read, the lockout should be VERY firm. The shock should bairly move with the lockout engaged. On my 2023 superdelux ultimate (the newest model that uses the same damper as the vivid) when you lock it out, the shock WILL NOT move and the bike feels like a hardtail.
Possible there is problem with compression circuit, the compression felt almost nonexistent on shock. Thanks for tip
@@OtterMTBtech yeah, I'd contact rockshox, that doesn't sound right
@@SpencerBaum checkout lockout force, my previous shock rs deluxe have 430lbs which dosent move at all when in lock mode and my current rs sdu have 380lbs and i can compress it when pedaling
Heya there, how much do you weigh? I'm a clyde at around 280, I have the Float X at 330psi to get ~30% sag, wondering how this would fare. Also how does the diameter of the air can compare to that of the X2? Thank you
It depends on your shock size. What bike? My shock is 230x65 (pretty massive) I had to almost max the air pressure out 330psi and I am 220ish. The shock likes to ride high in travel 25% becase there is only small amount of compression adjustment. The “hydrolic bottom” is pretty rad for the big boys.
I’ll dig into her but more ride it with max volume spacers to see if I can pressure down.
The vivid is larger than the X2 the x2 doesn’t scrap my frame.
Thanks, I plan to put it on my megatower v1 230x57.5mm so far no confirmation from santa cruz if it will fit lol
What are the diameter of the Aircan on RS and FOX? Im designing a Bike Frame and I want to know the clearance from shock body I Need
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I did install the shock today on my kenevo (size s4) but the aircan is touching the frame at full compression. Did you take off some material of the sidearm? I will probably return the shock. Im too afraid :-(
Every shock hits the frame unless it’s narrow body. File the frame down. If you ride really hard or are heavy the shock will then flex with the yoke even more into the frame. Bike needs a coil.
Would a vivid fit into orbea wild 2023. Came with fox dps "custom tune". I would like to upgrade...?
Most Likly, but it is a massive shock and may hit frame. Email rockshox or Orbea first
In my experience with fox and rockshox as a mechanic over the years, I find that when properly set up and tuned, Fox is ALWAYS better. The only time I would ever recommend rockshox is to somebody who does not care at all about peak suspension performance. If you are somebody with any amount of mechanical knowledge, it is much more worthwhile to get fox instead. Rockshox is 100% easier to set up out of the box, and there is no denying that. However, it will always feel dead compared to even the lowest end of fox shocks or forks. Pike ultimate with butter cups (and lawsuit valves) when professionally set up will still be inferior in ride quality and tunability to a 5 year old never serviced rythm fork. Sram should stick to what they do best, which is drivetrains. Just as shimano should stick with fishing lines and bad customer service.
This might be one of the most incorrect statements ive heard in awhile.
Fox had a step above Rockshox until they released charger 3, which tops fox at this point imo, Sram dosent make anything good except for the new T-Type stuff, and shimano makes the best drivetrains and some of the best breaks.
Your entire view of bike brands is an unpopular opinion lol.
Charger 3 may be a good damper, but I wouldn’t know since the Zeb is so progressive I had to run the damper wide open on a 60 lb ebike with a 230 lb rider.
What about the high speed compression?
A-Z Rockshox Vivid Ultimate Set up
th-cam.com/video/-lxlBXYfU9Y/w-d-xo.html explains
Hi
Did you try the shock with max tokens at 330psi ?
I’m going to try it maxxed tokens soon. This massive shock I have can take 4 total.
Sounds like you need a heavier shock tune. What's the compression and rebound tune on that shock?
C1 I believe. Only 1 I could get. You are very correct my friend. The base tune can make or break a shock. Specialized tuned shocks are next level compared to off the shelf equivalent.
There was 2 options for the 230x65. The Commencal meta Power and c1. For sure the Commencal tune would have had a heavier compression tune, but to be real if you want compression just go Fox
@@OtterMTBtech Perhaps Rockshox or your local suspension tuner can get it singing for you. Good luck!
I lent the shock to my friend and we are just both really heavy so it doesn’t lock fully out if your north of 220. Same as Super deluxe with same damper
I did install the shock today on my kenevo (size s4) but the aircan is touching the frame at full compression. Did you take off some material of the sidearm? I will probably return the shock. Im too afraid :-(
dude you live in my neighborhood that trek bike shop is like 5 mins away from me 😂
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whats the overall size of the air can?
Shoot I lent it to a friend will make follow up vid comparing to x2.
Is that a kenevo or a levo ?
Kenevo
this guy is so unchained 🤣
Lost me at EBike
Agree I hate eeb’s when I am not on one
@@OtterMTBtech😅 agreed
Gotta love how people assume a large air volume shock and Stumpjumper kinematic will universally work.
It works just needs an allot of air or tokens.. I would go Float X on that bike