A-Z Rockshox Vivid Ultimate Set up
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Excellent set up video for Vivid! Definitely saved me a bunch of time to get it dialed my liking. A great air shock for sure.
I just had my first ride on the vivid coil. It’s so good. Better than the two push shocks I have. I don’t know what it is. HSC nearly open and LSC open. Gotta give it a try.
What are you coming from?
@@OtterMTBtech super deluxe ultimate air shock. I have Push on all my other bikes. This is just as good
@@jack91522 I feel the same way and I have push on my other bikes.
Any recommendations for the setup on the slash gen6
it comes wit he select +
my weight is 85 kg.
i run it with
shock mount in the 20% sag setting
shock with
210psi- 30%sag
- 1 LSC from the middle position
11 klicks rebound
2 tokens.
hydraulic bottom out on -1
was thinking of removing one token.
15/20 rebound mid high and low compression. Zero HBO
200lbs with gear, 150mm travel, advanced rider. Jumps and drops frequently. Volume spacers?
12/20 rebound mid high and low compression. Then don’t touch the hbo unless you’re bottoming. 1-2 tokens depends on bike. What bike
@@OtterMTBtech heckler SL
How many tokens would you recommend for my 2021 levo. I weigh about 86kg with riding gear. Thanks
The short stroke and shock and linear suspension type I would got for 3 if you ride jumps and drops, 2 for simpler riding.
@OtterSports
Thanks for your reply. That's pretty much what I thought. I've fitted the 55mm up from 52.5 from factory and installed a Cascade link also.
the Cacade link makes the bike allot more progressive. 2 sounds ideal @@vaughanharrison1191
Thanks for this ! God bless! Cheers mate
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I’m surprised your rebound is all the way slow. Almost seems like you need a different rebound tune
Different shock **
What do you think of the manual tuning method vs Shokwiz? Is there a blend you use?
Wizard was the best $300 of gear I ever bought. It’s a pain to setup. You can tell it to give you either playful or planted recommendations. It helped me discover I like my playful bike. And run 37% dynamic sag.
Just curious about your explanation @08:41. Did you mean to say softest is counter-clockwise and hardest is clock wise. Sort of like clock wise closed/slow and counter clock is open/fast? Not sure if your editing software swapped them around.
It has a minus symbol I can’t even remember which 1 is whoch
Hello.
I have levo g3 carbon
with vivid ult.
Help with setup.
weight 210lb
3 tokens. Full HBO 1-2 clicks of both hsc and lsc. Has to have matching compression adjustments, same number of clicks high and low. HBO and rebound can adjust independently. Sag go right under 30%. If it’s a levo specific shock it comes with tokens in it. If not you need to add them in. HBO set off your skill level, but your weight full on is good. If you’re stuck on dead slow rebound add in the compression. The goal of the compression is to add in faster rebound notthkng else.
Working on setup video now. Super deluxe coil. It’s not far off your shock.
Most important is to match the compression adjustment 1 click low means 1 click high
Do anything you can to get rebound faster. The only thing you can do to get rebound faster is adding in compression
Comment back if you get it dialed
Still waiting for my package, anyway I can do my homework in advance 😂 thanks 👍
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Is there a noticable hissing noise midway through the travel that doesn't go away..mine has it.
Normal it is air changing negative to positive chamber. This shock is rare because the port that switches it is deep into travel
Trying to put spacers in mine currently, after letting out the air, the entire stanchion has been sucked up into the air can. In the video you have plenty of stanchion showing before you take the clip off. Any ideas?
Re fill it with air and press it down. Kinda of dangerous situation when it’s stuck down.
Then start over
@@OtterMTBtech Good advice! After commenting I threw it back on the bike and pumped it back up while compressing to equalize every 40 psi. Now I need to hook up a shock pump and let the air out slower. I'm thinking that's what happened is that it stored air in the negative chamber from letting it out too quickly.
How many tokens do i need? Im riding a 2021 Spindrift with 28% sag and 180mm of rear travel. Im weighing about 75kg.
1-2, add HSC in LAST!!!!!! USE the HBO for bottom out control first then a token or 2
Why would one open compression/rebound circuits to set sag?
Compression will influence sag more compression will = less sag. The sag is the independent measurement of how much spring. After that add support or compression as needed
Can vivid air fit into orbea wild 2023 frame? Came with fox dps "custom tune"?! Would like to upgrade ...
Hello is specialized enduro and nukeproof giga 290 are the same shock hardware
No enduro has its own unique flip chip
Hello help on set up .
Specialized turbo levo - ebike
230lbs ride weight
150mm rear
The Levo vivid comes with max tokens, I would put 3 of 4. Your near or over the Max weight limit of the shock and stick rebound in full slow. Add in HBO if needed.
The shock is kinda harsh with maximum tokens.
When you realize the rebound is not slow enough sell it and get a coil
How many tokens would you recommend for a '23 fuel Exe? I'm 220lbs loaded. Also, the rockshox online app says to do -9clicks for rebound on this weight/travel (140mm rear), I have to try it but it's lots more than you are using....
Technically your suppose to start with no tokens and add as needed. I have rode that bike. I would do 2 tokens zero compression 28% sag. Add 1 click HBO at a time as needed, it’s the only truly independent adjustment. The HSC will kill the ride.Add compression as last resort, it chokes the shock up. With it off it’s a pop machine. Start rebound dead slow. Add 1 click faster at time. Your pressure will be like 320psi, so the is much pressure needs a slower rebound
My experience with this shock was really bad. It states that 350psi is max, but it can’t even hold 300… I didn’t experience any of the “improvements” claimed. The adjustment range is absolutely tiny, the hbo is like the pad adjustment screw on Shimano brakes - useless!
How much do you weigh what bike and how many tokens in shock. The closer you get to 300 psi the shock starts to not work. So you need to do anything possible to get it under 300
@@OtterMTBtech and all of that makes a total piece of shit shock! If you can’t use it, even before you get to the threshold then it’s not acceptable! The MTB industry takes the piss like no other. If car manufacturers were to behave in such a way, we would all go back to the horse and cart! How is it that a €200 Tyre can last for 40-50k no problem and a €75 bike Tyre is dead in just 300-500km??? A shock needs service every six months and costs the same as the shock absorber on my BMW, which has 200k kms and still hasn’t needed anything!!!! It’s really a giant piss take that makes me not want to do this sport any more!
I’m a car guy. I’m 2 meter tall. My head doesn’t fit in most car, besides euro cars. Yes shock service $200 and fox float x isn’t not worth that much
Go Coil it gets rid of the air can
Did you use a shockwiz to tune this shock? I can't complete the calibration wizard to set the compression ratio.
I didn’t use the wiz. Go on forums and look for the ratio and Manually enter it. The wiz works fine without it as well.
Did you manage to get the compression ratio? Having problems calibrating my shock wiz to the shock as well.
Thanks for Video. Just got mine for my Kenevo my24. Like you said with 2,5mm more. You riding the same 65mm stroke ? Greetings from Germany
I am, my Kenevo is 2021. The shock will rub the frame with 230x65. The harder you ride the more it will rub.
@@OtterMTBtech my24 is the same bike. Ich run it Full 29. But it will just rub a little or will it be really bad that it can be broken?
Just a little scuff on the air can, but when you ride really hard it makes the scratch even bigger. Shock still works fine. I am riding full 29 as well it is super fast. I have 27.5 wheel for major downhills.
I usually run a 230x60 shock it makes the head angle a bit steeper with the big wheels. But what ever shock is cheaper or available I usually use.
Ok thanks a lot. So with a 60 stroke it will be around 173 mm of travel wright.
I experimented the whole day with it and though about it. My conclusion is that it doesn’t matter which stroke it has it will have contact with frame. Is that wright or can you say something different with the 60 mm stroke one ? Thanks for your help.
Hydraulic dear sir!
Explain
Are there tunes recommended for Specialized bikes (e.g. Kenevo SL)?
I’m on a Kenevo and the shock works, but hits the frame. I would be super careful putting this shock on your bike. The long piggy back may hit the frame on full bottom out. They already had to recall the Float X on your bike
Measurements in this video
FOX VS ROCKSHOX
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I have it on my Kenevo SL. Works perfect, buy it eyes closed!
Hello friend, I just got my 2023 RS vivid ultimate and i intend to run two tokens on my ebike with rear travel 150mm, i weight 76KG (fully loaded), is this good enough? Thank you my friend.
Ya, good starting point what bike the progression of the bike is a big part
Hello Bryan, thank you for responding. Over the weekend i ran the vivid with the following, 230 psi @sag 30% with 2 tokens, rebound 3clicks from tortoise, LSC and HSC 1 click from negative and HBO 2 clicks from negative. My riding style is not aggressively fast. Plenty of single track with plenty of roots and eroded trail, very gnarly. I still get 10% before i bottom out. When you say slowest its means negative? Compare to my X2 factory running on another bike, its not as progressive as X2, maybe add one more token? And thank you for all your videos.
After weeks fiddling it. Air pressure is the key to success. That shock can change so much from 5psi. Leave the compression wide open. Only adjust the HBO. Any compression on that shock wll just choke it up. Last resort spacers. I ran it with 25% sag and compression full open was pretty epic.
@@OtterMTBtech Hello Bryan, my Vivid Ultimate has broken in, man its the nicest shock I have ever use! My last shock was Float Factory X2, i prefer the Vivid. Just one question, after 6 months of weekly riding, i lose air around 30psi, is that normal?
Hi! Do you think the Vivid will fit on a 2023 Canyon Neuron On CF?
I feel like that’s the wrong shock for such a light duty bike
@@OtterMTBtech what high quality shock do you recommand, maybe Ohlins TTX Air ?
Fox float x is the way to go for that bike
@@OtterMTBtech ok, thank you !
What's the broken Oring size ?
Its a crazy special one, and the serive kits are not even out yet, use Plumbing repair Kit with largest thinnest one you can find and it will stretch over the can
So I followed what I saw you do and “removed the rebound knob” by turning it counterclockwise… which is what I saw you do. It snapped, owned this shock for 1 day, sent to back to RS for a fix quote and now I’m in this shock for over 1100. Maybe show how to remove the rebound knob in your next videos
Oooffff sorry to hear that. It pulls straight out and acts as 3mm Allen key. Personally learned hard lessons with bike mechanics. If it’s stiff something is wrong, and have broken many parts.
Yeh second this mate, have just done the exact same thing whilst following this video.
@@benthom.s yep, be aware, the fix is $300+
Will it fit an sworks stumpjumper.evo?
Yes
Need help with setup Levo gen 3 cascade long link 230x65 mm I weight 180 pound dressed up. Currently 3 spacers and 225 psi , bikes feels very heavy….bottoming out in big drops 1 HSC , HBO on center and LSC 1 click from open .