🔴Terrence Howard Faces Facts | [OFFICE HOURS] Podcast 117
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- This time, Terrence Howard smashes into a reality check on the Joe Rogan podcast.
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To the people in the chat who see Terence as an underdog:
Do you seriously think that Neil deGrasse Tyson, Joe Rogan, Kyle, and countless other people would have spent any amount of time talking about Terence's treatise if one of you had written it and put it on your blog? Do you think they'd _ever_ give _us_ the time of day, would _ever_ waste time carefully dissecting our insane theories?
The _only_ reason the spotlight is on Terence is that he is a) rich and b) already famous. He. Is not. An underdog. He's a privileged celebrity-he's just not privileged enough for the whole world to pretend reality is wrong and he is right.
I think people all just feel badly for him because he has a micro penis
What are you talking about...what is the privilege you speak of?
@@jasonbeck1340 Joe Rogan has similar interests to Terrence ie Anti establishmentarianism
whatever the case about Howard, I think Thor would be a lot better of a communicator especially since it’s self proclaimed, if he took the ego down a bit. He seems competent he really should i usually switch off when i hear the first comment about his hair or anything like that. Or when he makes fun of people, that’s not productive, and it makes people like me that are here for science and not his personality tune out.
@@jasonbeck1340 - I mentioned it in the comment: wealth and fame. Two things that get him attention and preferential treatment.
I don't buy his whole "1x1 is a metaphor" shit. He's just saying that because so many people have called out how ridiculous it is and he's obviously getting embarrassed. I unfortunately watched a little bit of that Oxford presentation. The students were challenging him on the 1x1 and he was arguing for it. Literally. Not metaphorically. Does Terrance understand that physics is about math? Can he even do the math? "Conversational" youtube physics is not real physics. Same thing with engineering. It's all math. That's the language you have to learn and use if you want to be taken seriously, not buzzwords(not to mention he doesn't even get those right) If he wants to be relevant and contribute something to science he needs to do the work and go back to school. I'm not saying that to be mean, I'm serious. If he's this interested in it, then he should really commit to it. The hardest part, for him it seems, would be learning humility.
EDIT: after watching the video for 2 more minutes, Kyle just said the exact same thing I said about language. I'm glad to know we're on the same page lol
@@Dannyv92 Exactly. Keep it real bro!
It's definitely not a metaphor. He tried breaking it down mathematically when he first said it. Lol
Considering that the mathematical proof that 1+1=2 is 379 pages, I think what Terrence needs to do is write out the proof that 1x1=2. That's the only way people will actually believe his shit
That backtracking proves that Howard knows deep down this is a narcissistic attention grab instead of genuinely getting new info out there.
@@89ludeawakening1 exactly
I saw this as Eric trying to give him kindness he himself may not have gotten from academia while still correcting him
Thats exactly what happened. And Eric is humble enough to want to encourage the things that Terrance got right.
Eric was an utter jerk.. stop it
@@_v2861 so if you don't agree with me you are a jerk... Waah waah
People are so soft. If you're wrong you're wrong. I used to take up to 7 practice tests every other day in pre med, and I'd constantly fail forward until all the information was burned into my head. And passing tests was 1/5 of the battle. You also needed to thoroughly understand the information as well as other things. And you're never going to be at a point where you know everything. All school can do for you is help you read and digest the information easier, because you still need to refresh your memory when you're on the job.
@@_v2861 He spent hours trying to one, figure out what Howard was trying to say and giving him space to clarify his positions and two, trying to explain where his ideas needed further thought as well as how he might better present them.
I do not see how he could have been less of a jerk, unless you think the appropriate course of action was to clap for Terrence no matter what, like he’s a volatile fucking child.
The whole thing felt like 2 adults gently praising a child's horrible macaroni art.
It really did lol especially if you watch the actual video/clips. Joe and Eric are just like "Wow, cool! good job buddy!" while Terrence is fumbling around digging thru his little box of toys 🤣
Except that Joe fell for it hook line and sinker. It’s sad he’s sharing these condescending smiles with Eric, pretending he wasn’t eating up everything Terrence said last time.
I’m glad Joe sees the truth now, I just don’t like that he’s pretending he didn’t buy into it earlier.
"I'm just asking questions" is like nails on a chalkboard to me. For starters, no, you're not. You're making an argument and phrasing it as a question to try and shield it. And, we know this because of that "just." Asking questions is great. JUST asking questions is not. What makes asking questions great is trying to find or come up with an answer to those questions, which is not something people who just ask questions (and usually imply the fact that they, and maybe the people they pose them to, don't know the answer means there is none) are doing.
Just. Asking. Questions.
JAQ'ing off.
Well said
I hate this fallacy. Rhetorical questions cannot demonstran argument. Politicians do that shit. It's just phrasing an unknown in a way that makes people think that anything is a valid answer.
Why is your chat so toxic? My lord. Much love my long mane brother
Any forum that reaches a large enough user base, will tend toward the lowest common denominator.
Add to that, toxic people are loud, and tend to get pushback, making them even more visible.
Without proper moderation, any medium becomes a cesspool.
@@VikingTeddy very true. I just feel it’s so unwarranted. Either way, better people come out in the end
It is honestly annoying with how people think their toxicity was contributing to any conversation. it was only a distraction from the points being made, and for what? To stand as equals in the annals with Terrance Howards acuity? How grave.
Maybe because it's funny?
He mentioned there were a lot of newbies, it's possible they're just die hard fans of any or all of the three dudes on the Rogan show who came to be mad at all costs. Lotta that going around, it's a bummer really. Closed minds :(
1 x 1 means one thing, one time, Terrence.
This is the best explanation of this and idk why it’s not just how it’s explained to begin with. Thank you :)
He knows that, he's just challenging the identity property of multiplication by arguing that multiplication is basically addition which is false because multiplication has unique properties that are more complex, he's not a dumb guy he's just a little crazy.
I think of it as one group of one thing.
@@heatherr4321 I think the guest was probably too advanced to explain things to a child. Terrance seems to be more concerned with the linguistics and has trouble conceptualizing things in a practical way. I assume that he knows what a grocery store is unless his maid or instacart does the shopping for him. But I'd just tell Terrence that Multiplicaiton is tool used to measure the relationship between groups. And that a grocery bag is something that can group an item. So if he had 2 grocery bags with 4 apples each would give you 8 apples, or 2 times 4 equals 8. And 1 orange in another grocery bag would give you 1 orange, or 1 times 1 equals 1. And if Timmy takes the orange out of the one bag without letting you know, and you check the bag to see that it's missing, the mathematical representation of that is 0 oranges. But if you must use multiplication to measure the relationship between the bag and the orange then it would be 1x0=0. So 1 times zero equals zero isn't saying that the orange disappeared into oblivion, it's just telling you that the specific item you're trying to measure or observe isn't part of the equation or the device (grocery bag) used to group the item.
@@heatherr4321...that is how it's explained. You first learn it with physical objects.
Egomania is one hell of a drug…. The fact that we’re taking time debating a narcissist is mind boggling in itself
i dont think he is a narcissist, i think he has symptoms of psychosis and mania. ive talked to a few people with diagnosed schizophrenia that talk a lot like him. they were generally good people (terrance i have no idea about), but thought they had "figured everything out". im not gonna try to diagnose the man, but he is behaving similarly, has paranoia, and the like.
@@Buildingskynet eat me dude. what am i gonna do, do a whole study for a youtube comment section before i post some random bullshit? ive seen this exact behavior in multiple people, they all had disorders that give them mania/psychosis, and he is behaving like them. you got something better? no? then why are you acting like you know better than me?
Hell , we elected one president. But then again which one of our presidents wasn't?
Let's be honest, a large portion of academia and scientists are narcissists as well. They definitely have a 'God' complex.
It's not mind boggling, a healthy debate is necessary to stop misinformation and it gets people more involved in education and critical thinking.
Man.... I don't think the problem is Joe Rogan having Terrance on the podcast, I don't think the problem is Terrance being right or wrong.... the ACTUAL problem is the masses of people that decide to just believe something said on the internet without properly educating themselves on the topics first lol
Does everyone believe it just because Terrance Howard said it on the internet? I think it’s massively overestimated the influence fringe ideas like his has on people. Sure some people will believe whatever, but most still are thinking at least somewhat critically and aren’t just going to believe anything just because it was on a popular podcast.
Best comment of the day!!
@@swale5oGYou think to highly of humanity.
@@aplum4218 how do you figure? What percentage of people that listened to Terrence’s first appearance just believed everything he said and are regurgitating it?
@@swale5oGI think you're missing something fundamental, which will lead to you getting caught up regurgitating ideas. You see, not everyone thinks like you or your circle. You won't see all, as you are human and you have to rely on a web of information, not single sources, like your own mind.
“Not everyone deserves a megaphone.”
I fucking love that so much.
Someone in the other Terence stream said “everyone deserves freedom of speech but not everyone deserves freedom of reach”
The system where we let the people decide who gets a megaphone by grassroots is better than any system that has ever been tried where we decide a priori who "deserves" a megaphone or what type of speech "deserves" a megaphone. For example Kyle here uses making bombs, but I vehemently disagree with that. making one is just basic chemistry, and I strongly believe the world would be a much better place if everyone was educated to know basic chemistry.
@@Alex.HollandA better example might be people who advocate for the use of bombs as a political instrument
@@Ktmfan450 knowledge and speech are protected, actions and violence aren't. While there is grey areas, its not rocket science
The megaphone of science should be reserved to the people that have survived the gauntlet of peer reviews.
Terence Howard thinks he's Max Planck arguing with Einstein, but in reality he's just a plank.
"Plank...Maximum Plank..." 😂
Perfect
And einstein is just a Weinstein that accomplished absolutely nothing and all his fantasy theories have been debunked long ago by serious scientists that ACTUALLY do the work and walk the walk, those two are eceleb c4ncer posers of no interests to any real fields
@@sulijoo what's a plank? Do you mean prank!?
Why insult planks like that? What did they ever do to you?
Kyle is proof no matter how good you are toxic people will always try and root themselves in your life much love hope your chat gets better
Hey guess what, the world is toxic. Welcome to life. Why dont you put your big boy pants on and deal with it instead of bitching about it in the chat. lol "Toxic"......what a vaginal word
@@swale5oG Kyle went out of his way to avoid being toxic and commenting on things that are not on the video. I've seen a lot of his videos and I don't think he deserves these comments. Public chats will always have toxic elements, no matter what.
@@swale5oG lol if u watch his videos, u would realise how wrong your comment is.
This is why everyone doesnt deserve a mega phone bc a lot of ppl open their mouths without any thought process...
@@lazyt6808 I do watch his videos and am well aware that Kyle Hill and his moderators are a bunch of egomaniacs. Kyle is so unfathomably full of himself it's cringe to watch sometimes. But I like the science content and still tune into everything. I am just aware that on a personal level, Kyle Hill probably is NOT the most pleasant person to be around and I would guess that the people he surrounds himself with are similar.
@@metri0n I tend to disagree, as he keeps popping up as features on other people's channels and seems to be highly enjoyed by the people in and out of his circle. But I guess since neither of us actually knows the dude personally, we're just engaging in pointless conjecture here
Dewey Decimal System is not synonymous with the Decimal System. One is used in Libraries, the other is used in Mathematics.
Hard not to tune out once he says that.
To be fair, my books are sorted in hexadecimal. And bananas taste like octal to me.
Wait. Hold on. Is that what he was saying?! 😂 Lacking much of a mathematics background I thought (hoped maybe?) that there was some mathematical concept that happened to have the same name as the Dewey decimal system. Now I’ve gone from being simply irritated by Terrence to feeling a little bad for him.
@@dilznick101 you can hear Eric groan whenever Terrence uses big words in the wrong context.
Terrence isn't taken seriously because he hasn't read the books and done the work the professionals have. If he had, he see all of the ways he was incorrect. That's the rub. I personally DO NOT think he' should get ANY credit. He's wrong, pure and simple. Crack a book, do the work if you wanna be taken seriously.
He put himself out there.
He received a viral response because of his celebrity and wealth... but he still put himself out there.
Most people aren't willing to be vulnerable like that in ANY forum, let alone a platform of millions...
(But most people aren't movie star celebrities, so there's that)
Dude went into the peer review process and got constructive criticism and he went and lied about the type of criticism he received. He’s a little whiny bitch. He needs help.
@@drebk Seems a bit like attention seeking imo but maybe it's not just that.
@@w花b Recall, he provided his treatise to Neil 8 years ago.
This recent "attention" isn't about a lazy, half-baked idea he had while ripped the night before and just happened to jot down.
He truly believes he has stumbled onto something major (he hadn't, though).
So yes, he is attention seeking... he had a very grandiose, superiority complex. Sprinkled with messiah issues.
Because the "professionals" have done the world so well up to this point. No. The professionals are a bunch of insecure bullies. You can see it in every industry. "Science advances one funeral at a time" is a real saying and a fundemental truth of our existence. Let's stop pretending that the professionals are gods please
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I've always wanted to be involved for a long time but the volatility in the price has been very confusing to me. Although I have watched a lot of TH-cam videos about it but I still find it hard to understand.
Can I also do it??? My life is facing lots of challenges lately.
What’s insane is how no one is understanding the implication of “I’m just asking questions” in this context.
It is not true curiosity, it isn’t seeking deeper knowledge. It’s a condescending way of poking holes in something that has already been decided to not be in line with an individual truth.
This made me think of Joe having Eddie Bravo (I think?) on a long time ago and he was adamant about flat earth or whatever conspiracy theory and even got Jamie SUPER heated about it. Eddie then resorted to the "I'm crazy" as a reasonable defense of him spouting nonsense...
Seems like an out for when he won't admit he doesn't know the answer, or even a redirect.
If everyone had a megaphone then everything would just be noise.
Everyone does have a megaphone. No individual has the right to lord over another individual
Everyone should be permitted to speak no matter what.
@@tajwilliams6186 these 2 sentences are incongruent
@@mrosskne But not everyone should be listened to
Just imagining this comment being said through a megaphone.
An analogy I could make for the barrier to entry to academia/science that exists is like this:
Say I'm the boss at a company that makes electronic devices, and someone comes in and wants to get hired for a position as an electrical engineer. If I ask them, "What is Ohm's law?" and they cant answer that? I'm not going to hire them, because they clearly haven't done even the most basic level of education about the subject that they would need to be competent in (competent, not even an expert, mind you) in order to do the work I would require of them.
If you are going to present new theories about things, you HAVE to have a solid understanding about the fundamentals or nobody is going to take you seriously.
I x R = 2, duh
Furthermore, if your argument is that you're trying to undermine those fundamentals and try to prove that they're wrong, then that doesn't mean you get to just ignore everything other than your own theory. You need to still have a solid understanding of what you're trying to prove wrong so that people can see that you're not just pointlessly dismissing things. You need to show why the current fundamentals are wrong or at least have a problem with them in order for anyone to take you seriously.
@@BlazeMakesGamesIt is a bit like speaking a foreign language.
If you've a great idea, but you are speaking Martian, then... hell, you might even be right, but if nobody understands what you're saying, then you are all the way wrong.
@@ohiocitydavewelcome back, Terrence.
Yeah, the problem is the guy that wants to job doesn't believe the fundamentals are correct in the first place
I dare say Eric actually outsmarted TH’s stupidity and did it with firm kindness. Mind blown. I didn’t think it was possible. Huge inspiration for me to strive for the same level of kindness at all times.
Best part was Eric Weinstein saying what would you think tomorrow if i say i can destroy Jon Jones with a pinky finger lol
Take a shot every time Kyle points out he dosnt agree with Eric's politics
Take a shot every time someone in chat calls him out for quoting Eric and believing that means he supports Eric's politics.
@@mahelaniarektbbShould he be governed via shame by the least-intelligent in the chat or voluntarily guided by the most intelligent in the chat? Hill is no Freeman Dyson...he should be more open to Eric's politics, just like Eric should be more libertarian. (Once you understand proper morality, it's immoral to advocate totalitarianism.)
It made sense to me. People have a hard time seeing a person as a multifaceted entity. And we've reached a point where if you agree with someone on something, people automatically assume that you agree with him on everything. That's how people that had legitimate questions about the vaccines were labeled as anti-vaxxers and anti-science. Another example is how Republicans who agree with Democrats on some basic things are automatically labeled as RH.I.N.O.s . Or if you admit that Trump sometimes makes a good point or has done something good, you're automatically a Trump supporter.
Kyle probably learned this the hard way over the years and now makes that everyone knows what he's supporting and what he isn't.
People are morons and now you have to qualify every statement if you agree with someone's idea, because many people seem to think if you agree with Hitler that water is wet, you must be all for his master race plan.
Some people overdo the disclaimers.
@@JakeWitmer There's already a massive political divide. Libertarianism isn't feasible
A world of information at our fingertips, and we're still arguing with people who don't understand basic math and science, but think they know more than those who can prove they do.
This is why we can't have nice things.
This is why religion is still relevant in the 21st century. At the core humans are still animals relying on instinct, emotional stimulus, and selfishness.
Not sure what you mean by that last sentence, because we have a LOT of nice things. In fact, we have more nice things than any previous generation to come before us, for all of human history.
honestly, too many people just do not trust experts for some reason. it is good to have some amount of questioning, but people think some shit is up for debate and not as concrete as it gets. people really are ignoring thousands of years of science and math and positing their own bullshit like it isnt already decided. it doesnt matter if it was right out of the mouth of albert einstein, these people would be debating it, creating conspiracy theories about how albert was actually a government agent with prosthetics to confuse people into believing gravity is real
@@nickryan3288 haha his last sentence contradicts his 1st sentence
i read that last sentence in the voice of stitch
"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit." - W.C. Fields (maybe)
Awesome quote...P.T. Barnum IIRC ...not "the bank dick"
Bibbidy bobbidy boop
That was Confucius.
I watched the first stream Kyle did on Terence; some ppl in the chat called him a clickbait and a liar about nuclear bombs (yep u heard that). Apparently u can claim 1x1=2 and that your proof of being awake in the womb is your baby reacts to light, but anyone who discredits those claims is clickbait.
It really is to these people it’s not what you say it’s how you say it. Lol they are picking up a tone they probably heard from their parents or friends that were actually college educated, but maybe not the best of parents, they get slapped around a little and then piece together that their parents are stupid. that confident tone the parents used to describe the facts and how right they are about the subject is misconstrued as being evil/bad/arrogant/toxic
If my parents(whomeever) did it, and they were bad. It must mean that this guy is also bad, he must be the same way as my parents.
That’s just my hypothesis anyway.
Please excuse my atrocious sentence structure.
One of the biggest problems with social media is that people with idiotic and insane ideas/theories sometimes get very large audiences and it only (in their mind) validates those ideas/theories.
How else can we keep up with the dashians?
Yeah...I was trying to say something that I was certain was correct. Now I am just making meme jokes.
Sad times.
Thank you for this Kyle. I found your channel when you covered Terrence’s first appearance on JRE. So I thought of you as I watched his second appearance with Eric. You and Eric are a refreshing breath of fresh air for blocking out the distractions and focusing the conversation on pertinent facts. No armchair psychiatry, politics, conspiracy or personal business. Simply discussing the ideas and evaluating the merits or flaws. This is the most respectful and productive method. Save all the distractions for another space otherwise the conversation unravels into insults.
Well put!
You should definitely check out more of Kyle's content, particularly his videos on nuclear energy. A lot of VERY high quality content.
Thanks, I will
Kyle is a thousand time more objective and less manipulative then Eric Weinstein, the fake dark web intellectual of the "listen and believe" , that has been debunked quite a lot by the people he falsely accuses a lot of the time too, he is a rat like a lot of youtubers.
You gotta check out Kyle’s earlier stuff then. “Because science” is some of his best stuff
Terrence Howard's arguments remind me a lot of flat earthers. You know they're already trying to prepare arguments for when the 24 hour sun is seen by whichever flerf makes the trip to Antarctica. They will never admit defeat...."You went on TUESDAY! I said you can go any day BUT TUESDAY! Everyone knows there is no 24 hour sun on Tuesday!"
i’m waiting to see what they come up with
@@Dannyv92A model that starts with the conclusion and works backwards to support it.
This guy isnstruggling to even review this clip lol 😆 T is referring to how we create things or language based on the systems being described are in existence the being labeled and described. With sentential logic using proof and calculus applied to language insists there are these things described in basic math language and as well in geometry and such. Internalized knowledge expreessed through language can become and is math translated from sentential logic. Self taught is called autodidactic lol. There is the reveal in the words which comes from philosophy which he states is his modus operandii. He Def isn't incorrect there is a communication breakdown between the two. I think T has found some narrow unknowns they cross planes. Technically when you look at the materials at base level the stress of potential energy is revealed withing the materials on atomic levels like heat show faster wriggling filaments therefore you can actually view motion in potential energy that's ridiculous ypunpeople need to look harder we already know these things not sure why that's not being revealed here seems like T sort of leads torward this but fails to be able to communicate effectively. There are some new things here and should be better understood and the means T needs communications training and understanding as well and a larger library of academic and scholarly terms to help him better effectively create more concise share fantasy of inter personal Communication. He needs help talking in short as a communications master. ;)
@@joneblaze82 the cope
@@joneblaze82where's the motion in potential gravitational energy?
TLDR:
In the game Risk, there is a strategy called Australian Turtle. Basically, it takes a low priority territory that has only one choke point where all your forces are concentrated. The reenforcements gained per turn are small but since Australia is so low priority, people forget about it while they waist resources on each other and allow your army to trickle into more than they can handle.
Lots of people are as ignorant as Howard and very gullible. Silence people like him, and they will still grow underground and eventually challenge the world anyway. Let the entire world see them regardless if there is an immediate challenger (Terrance's first Rogan appearance) and the appropriate challengers will find them much faster. The world will also be much smarter for having learned WHY he is wrong.
*waste resources
@@insertoyouroemailThanks.
lol that was my goto strategy in Risk!
are you saying i performed the Terrance Howard of risk strategies? How dare you! lol great analogy though.
Gosh, you just brought back so many memories for me, playing Risk! Australia was the secret stronghold for players in the know, lol.
Good analogy too. It's often cathartic in the short-term, but then discouraging and tiring in the long-term to hear people just dunk on grifters and the misguided and calling it a day, when a lot of people, of varying backgrounds and numbers depending on the subject, could really benefit from hearing an informed and honest rebuttal. Laughing is fun, even when it's at the expense of a good stock. But pointing and laughing won't get us out of the information crisis.
My question is "Does Terrence Howard actually think that, after all this time, he's the one who figured it all out?" All of the EVERYone who came before him, and EVERYone who agrees with everyone who came before him, are ALL wrong. Is that what he thinks?
Why?
He was taught by an angel in dreams....... I am being serious.
To be fair, a lot of actual innovation in science was exactly that. Everyone thought something was a certain way until one person came up and said "nope, it's actually this way" and they were laughed at until proven right. Now, this isn't in any way accurate for Terryology, he is either crazy or a grifter, but the basic premise of your question isn't actually unrealistic.
@@Blasted2Oblivion oh, I know all that, but Terrence has been, apparently, like this since grade school or whatever. In that case, it's just absurd to think that you alone have "figured it all out".
@@Blasted2Oblivion At least, the people that say "nope, it works this way", have something to back up their theory. Terryology is just saying random scientific words and hoping it sticks.
I thought Eric was as gentle as he could be with him.
I would say as hard as he could be. Chances are TH would call him out as bigoted if he disagreed with him too vociferously.
@@Cheepchipsable totally agree. He seemed to want to just call him an idiot and his ideas are stupid because he doesn't know enough.
"Your not getting a Peer Review from me...
Your getting an Elite Review"
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@@solvseus You’re
@@Jcs57 *You are
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He watched a video on fractals once and took it as "no straight lines".
This podcast was so cool and i have so much respect for Eric for doing this. Ive never felt so stupid for 4 hours straight.
The problem with Terrance Howard is that his engagement with the material is in service not to further human understanding, but rather to prove to everyone how much smarter he is than everyone else.
That’s the reason I can’t look at this with any sort of generosity at all.
He absolutely did try to convince people that 1x1=2. It wasn't a metaphor. And I think Terrance saying there are no straight lines in the universe is him incorrectly quoting Alan Watts, who said that nature doesn't create straight lines. Which is true. Man creates straight lines. But they exist.
Nature creates all kinds of straight lines. There are no 'literally perfect' straight lines in nature, but that *includes all lines created by humans too.*
Relaxing the definition to apparent straight lines, like the highest quality graph paper, then there are millions of straight lines in nature. All kinds of things, including directly constructed by the animals things like (some types) spider webs and and bee hives.
A ray of photons/ electromagnetic wave, in the absence of gravity, and travelling through the same medium, DOES TRAVEL IN A STRAIGHT LINE.
So nature does create straight line paths.
The line itself is theoretical, obviously.
What about the part that he learned all of that from an angel in his dream?
What about a chunk of marble telling Michelangelo that David was inside and he just needed to reveal it?
man, just 150 yrs ago he would have a religion made after him with that...
@@davechongle psh. He probably could today if he wanted to tbh
@Buildingskynet the quote is more like "I created a vision of David in my mind and simply carved away everything that was not David" , nothing about talking stones. But I get the part that It relates to the mind and it's mysteries. I personally think Michelangelo's quote is kind of a joke and simplified version of the processes, what tells about he's genius, and Howad's is trying to justify for something he doesn't fully understand and don't know how he came up with it.
@Buildingskynet Terrance Is that you?
This is what happens when someone confuses mathematics with physical systems and does it when they're garbage at both that's called pulling a hat trick and being garbage
Terrance Howard faces facts like a 3 year old faces childhood trauma:
Running away & no small amount of crying 😭
BUT I HAVE A PATENT ON IT !!
Be that as it may, He at least has the guff to return and face criticism.
The change in his views and concepts because of this episode will be rather dramatic I think.
Hats off to Eric.
WHAT IIIIIIIIIS THAT COMPARISON??!!!
I must have missed the unedited podcast. I don't see Terrance running 😂
Despite how you feel, you should acknowledge that Terrance had sat there and accepted at times of being wrong; was he stubborn in some areas? Yes, but nonetheless listened and reached to Eric in the later to help him going forward.
And don't forget Terrance has brought 2 great things to the surface. 1 being the amazing shapes and geometries and his ideas with linchpin leading to a multi axis drone.
@@cluelessgod97 Respect. You actually did watch a majority of it. I watched 4 hours of three men discussing numerous constructs I could never have with my wife. I proudly watched the expert on the primary topic points continually express his thoughts through respectful discourse. Eric refused to punch down and was driven to encourage Terrence to become a student again so he could be involved in more brilliant discussions of discovery. I did not expect this kind of candor during a Joe Rogan podcast.
He was 'harsh' because he was tired of his shit... he was tired of his bs nonsense. Everyone is.... O_x
"No one understands 1 times 1equals 2!!!"
That's nice Mr. Howard please settle down and eat your jello it's almost nap time
Lol that was funny.
Some conspiracy theorists suggest that Terrance was on the right path to unlocking the universes secrets and they got to him first and injected him with no go juice. Now he just sounds insane.
Idk just sounded funny
In hustle and flow Terrance played a character that knew if he went to his neighbors who were playing music too loud that he had to speak their language to them and not come at it in a hot headed manner. He literally had a scene in a movie where he had to appeal to people in a way to connect with them, and seems not to understand that is the same process in the science field.
Someone else wrote that and directed him, he just acted the part
@solvseus 100% and that's why TH doesn't understand basic human interaction.
@@solvseusBut he had to understand the characters motivations.
I've seen your videos in my feed, but today was the first time I watched any of them, and I just so happened to be part one of this. We really need more people on your level of understanding stepping in on ideas that do not need to be mass-produced.
Eric's accomplishments stand on their own merit. Beyond that, it is irksome that you routinely hedge against him, all the while agreeing with him in the most part. I find it to be disingenuous. Its okay to not agree with his personal politics, its cool man. But you really need to treat him like he is potentially hazardous waste each time you tiptoe into agreement with him? I've seen you have less concern when interacting with real hazardous materials. No one is going to cancel you, you have glorious mane advantage, gives massive bonuses to all social arena standings. So reveal your reservations/bias at the start, and from then on just stay on target. Accept that your audience has the capacity to follow you on this particular journey without the incessant reminders. If it was you just responding to people saying nonsense in chat, do not engage. Or, do. I guess. Either way, that's my input.. for whatever it is worth.
It’s mostly because his scientific ideas have had nearly zero traction in the community. From the only scientists to actually evaluate “geometric unity” I quote:
“There may be the germs of some interesting mathematical perspectives arising from Geometric Unity, just like any arrangement of chess positions can contain interesting sub-configurations here or there. But even such a modest claim places the burden of proof on Weinstein, alone or with collaborators, to work out the arrangement of the missing pieces. Else as it stands, Geometric Unity is an incomplete and flawed proposal which no one else is obligated to digest, much less complete. And as to Weinstein’s far grander claim of possessing the keys to a genuine Theory of Everything, the limited scope of Geometric Unity makes it inconceivable how such a claim could possibly hold true. Like most rough drafts, Geometric Unity in its current form should have been developed further before being released, regardless of whether its author is an academician or an entertainer.”
@@kylehillGive it a rest, dude. You sounded like an ass numerous times throughout this breakdown
@@ajay.gillig Kyle is doing a great job, if the Weinstein bros don't know what they are talking about it's worth calling them out.
@@codingfuel did my comment get removed?
@@codingfuelthey know what they are talking about neither is stupid and Eric is openly asking for academics to look at his work and push back on his work because if he is wrong he wants someone to tell him. It’s like an obstacle course to the finish line, you either make it with hitting a few bumps or you don’t and start again. As I understand it because of his politics he is being shunned by the scientific community and not taken seriously when he is openly asking to be challenged. He wants people to tell him where he has gone wrong. Like Terrance you can be blinded into thinking you are so right that you can’t see some of the obvious flaws and Eric is smart enough to realise he isn’t above this himself.
Its funny as hell hearing Joe Rogan tell someone "Hey, you aren't an expert and by trying to tell experts you know better is offensive". Because he does that shit all the time.
Rogan is a self avowed moron which he has reaffirmed on multiple occasions the next step in his development perhaps could be self awareness of his own hypocrisy.
Care to cite some examples? I never see rogan do that, if anything he just asks dumb ass questions in excess while saying shit like "I'm just a big chimp asking questions on the internet."
i think joe rogan only say his opinion on stuff and some words about what he believes in and get corrected on these.. and just like an old man he stand his ground on stuff he said but also accept correction on his opinion and beliefs
Joe never pretends to be an expert in anything
@@wesleyleach2793so he is not a professional vaccinology?
I love Joe Rogan when he talks about stuff he is well informed about. Not stuff like mathematics or science. If I wanted to learn scientific or mathematic literature I would go to a scientist or a mathematician
The academic world IS elite, because they have put a ton of work in. They have earned it
Ever since I was little, even before the internet, if I had to research things, I would always research ALL the things, and cross-reference things, and get other opinions, etc.
We now have THE ENTIRETY OF HUMAN KNOWLEDGE AT OUR FINGERTIPS, and yet there was that whole COVID thing where countless people died who shouldn't have, and most people just look at one thing online and that's their research.
I don't know what's to be done, but SOMEthing has to be done. Hell, there are legit people out there who think Fidel Castro is Justin Trudeau's father.
I love the absolute elitism of those who presume to decide who does/doesn't "deserve a megaphone."
I'm glad I got the opportunity to hear Terrance Howard's ideas. Now I know that the ideas are nuts.
That is part of the beauty of free speech and the marketplace of ideas.
Even if this dude is entirely wrong about almost everything in this context...his naivete and bullheaded insistence to be a part of mathematics has lead many people down the path of appreciating formal mathematics.
Rogan is slowly and methodically bringing the cautionary film "Idiocracy" (2006) to life.
Hot take: one of the most damaging things to science communication is constantly having to remind everyone in the middle of explanations that you disagree with someone politically and you're just focusing on one idea of theirs just to make the ideological line between yourselves repeatedly clear.
What are you talking about?
@pitprok well, I made it through about the first half of the video, and there must have been a dozen times where Kyle would detour from what he was talking about to be like "now I don't agree with Eric on a lot of stuff. Or his brother. Or Terrence." And after about the 5th time I was just like OKAY I GET IT! YOU'RE ONE OF THE "GOOD ONES", GREAT! JUST EXPLAIN THE SHIT!
Same. It was unnecessary and reeked of desperation to stay 'in' with the cool kids.
@@patrickshepherd1341 well you have to take under consideration that it was a stream so people came and went so perhaps he felt the need to say it for the new people. And also it kind of safeguarded him from any clips that would maliciously take any instances without the disclaimer and create fake drama.
@@patrickshepherd1341 I felt the same way. Also interrupting to talk to chat just absolutely decimates the flow of the content. It's best to have live streams which are interactive the entire time and others where you have content then answer super chats at the end. Going over content then CONSTANTLY interrupting yourself to answer a superchat just gets so annoying
Think of Eric what you may, he calls it as he sees it and doesn’t try to please people. It’s also great to see that Kyle acknowledges this, despite their differences.
there's a really good article on aeon by Sabine Hossenfelder called "What I learned as a hired consultant to autodidact physicists" and it's a good look into how to talk to people like Terrence Howard. i hear she also has a youtube channel, i haven't checked it out myself, but I've heard good things
I find her quite irritating, but others like her. YMMV
She’s not afraid to say she’s wrong, so in that regard she’s good in my book.
I don’t always agree with her, but she’s a good science communicator. She’s a scientist and she’s a skeptic of the hype and non-peer reviewed claims. She admits when she’s wrong or changes her mind.
@@geoffstrickler I definitely don't appreciate her talking with authority about topics she isn't qualified to discuss. Being an expert in one field, does not give you _any_ authority in unrelated fields.
I love her--she always has reasoned, interesting observations even when I disagree with her.
Joe Rogan had a guy on talking about Narrabu / Planet X.
Rogan knows his audience and how to milk every drop from that teat. He took the lessons from every grifter, politician, and religious leader tell them what they want to hear, assure them they’re special all while laughing at them and cashing the checks.
@@Jcs57it's your attitude that everyone hates. This elitist, narcissistic, main character syndrome. And the ironic thing is, those 'idiots' who you claim watch Joe Rogan are likely just as educated in STEM as you yourself are. In fact, I would say that people who listen to Joe Rogan are MORE informed, because they're willing hear different perspectives. Try not to forget, that a large portion of Jpe Rogans guests were prior listeners before agreeing to appear on his show. That means there are PLENTY of PhD's that are listening to Joe Rogan. Your attitude is really disgusting, especially your contempt for millions of people who you insinuate are fools, based on ZERO evidence. Your attitude, is the pervasive attitude that is slowly unraveling the fabric of society. It's the attitude of the elite, that tries to dehumanize 40:16 those 'others' that they tend not to agree with politically or socially.
Let's seriously analyze a discussion about mathmatics between a racist and a spoiled movie star on a conspiracy theorist's podcast 😂
Weinstein talks about his politics MORE than science in general.
Why would Kyle not skip over this discussion? Hell, if there was a "left wing" Weinstein, I'd skip over anything he's involved with, too. Clowning Terrance Howard can't be THAT much of a cash cow, can it?
Isn't the tragedy of Terrance Howard his own ego?
It really is. He believes that god ordained him as the prophet of math. He thinks he is so special that god sent an angel into his dreams.
It’s asinine. But if you believe the stories of prophets, it’s not too far fetched.
It definitely is
I love clowning on flat earthers and others of the sort.
I value a flatearther who tries and failes more then someone who doenst try at all
@@dodumichalcevski Tries what?
@@lain6889
"Discovering something new"
Whatever you wanne call it
@@dodumichalcevskidiscovering without understanding is recipe for failure. Also there's difference between believing something blindly and looking for truth based on logical axiom and understanding. And no preconceived notion.
Terence Howard is smarter than most people think he is, but he not as smart as HE think he is.
In his mind he is Einstein²
Yeah I think Terrance is actually a pretty likable guy and I like how Eric handle this whole thing
I didnt even know who that guy was before this
A timestamp where you did find out could be very helpful.
@@Bonhomme7h i simply googled the name, i dont remember anythikg being said about who Terrence Howard is.
Hes a US American actor that is aparently good at acting
@@dripwastaken7884Kyle mentions it towards the beginning.
This is a you paying attention problem.
Also Google is a good resource.
Incredible actor, has been in some great TV shows and movies
This interview is the gift that keeps on giving, now Kyle is getting into the action
The grift that keeps on grifting
I think it's fantastic that Joe did this. I'm not super familiar with Eric, I know some about his brother Brett, but it appears Eric did a great job here and struck a very nice balance with not completely ignoring Terrence while still being real and direct.
And finally I do have to give Terrence some credit for agreeing to this and for not completely breaking down. Depending on what he does from here he could gain a bit of respect.
LOL, Joe does this for ratings, not because he gives a rat''s.
I would love for you to have a mod or someone to run chat for you so you can focus on the video. It's good to respond to chat, but when you're already unsure if you'll get to all the topics you want to discuss, then its probably not worth reading chats out loud and answering them "we'll get to that".
Yeah, it definitely makes watching these streams after the fact much more difficult, I have to skip through about half hour of the video to get to the point.
Poor jamie
Surely he went full Ben Affleck meme after this pod.
He was put to work this podcast
Ha, I can see why Terence is so wrong now, his language and meaning doesn't line up with normal thought. To us, 1 times 1 just means 1 of 1. To Terence, the word times takes on a whole new meaning
Terrence just says words. But what he says doesn’t mean anything. He thinks it does…but nope…just words strung together.
exactly what i was thinking. the words are real words. but the context he puts them in shows he doesnt know what he is saying
You're just jealous, because you think there are straight lines, when really, the lines are all curvy and gay... 😂
The fact he's a rich actor is also the reason he even has this platform and anyone is even talking about his ideas. If the random person were walking around talking about how 1x1=2 it woudnt be long before they find themselves walking around a padded room.
love how fair and real you are this what we need thanks for being you keep up
Its such a mockery. This entire misunderstanding is that he never got past 1x1. They should ask him what 2x2 is then explain the math to him, then ask again so if you only have 1 amount of 1 type of thing how much do you have?
Don’t try to reason with T.H. His whole schtick is to “let go” and “think outside the box” and “extend the dimensions”. People who come from the Humanities or the Arts do not have much use for ideas like “objective proofs”. They grew up seeing opinion swaying to “consensus” that was built by any kind of argument, not necessary logical enough. Appeal to emotion, ideological partisanship, conversational ganking, all these are equal to mathematical proofs for these people.
If T.H. would break character and listened to logical arguments he would not have gone to the podcasts and stuff. His fallacies are self evident, however he chooses to sell them as ideology. The only question is whether or not he drank his cool aide, or if he is just peddling for publicity and money.
Dang, all that effort putting in a well thought out comment and all you get in return is this response...
Even that wouldn’t flip him one bit. This guy said to a group of Oxford students that 1*1=2 and 1*2=3 and so on
He admits that he knows what you mean, but he has some nonsensical ideas about actions and reactions being involved. It's truly philosophical fart sniffing narcissism.
He thought he had a gotchya. He's just a guy that wants to be known for more than pretending to be other dudes.
Kyle could do please do a video on micro plastics, I been trying to fine good information on the subject.
To be fair it is a fairly new topic of research and it seems we are still trying to figure out the potential harms of microplastics.
Bomb making instructions are free speech, bomb construction is not.
Terrence is just recognizing properties of certain numbers and thinks he broke math. Numberphile is an entire channel about weird numbers and weird properties.
It's barely recognition. Terrence is seeing the colors of the rainbow and saying, "Wow, there must be a leprechaun with a pot of gold at the end."
@@CliffSedge-nu5fv lol youre right. hes really dumb.
@@CliffSedge-nu5fv lol yea u right
I am not against Terrance Howard, but he needs to go through all the mathematics that anyone in Science or Engineering would go through. I remember retaking classes that I failed at first. It is hard stuff. I think that he would really find out so many things that he never knew. If anything Mr. Howard has the wherewithal to continue doing research while the majority of who took those classes had to get a job and hope not to get cut in the next round of layoffs.
I agree. Having gone through mechanical engineering and aerospace engineering courses, I learned so many concepts that I wouldn't have come across otherwise. That's something I realized about people who are confused or deny science related things. They didn't get a formal education on it and are missing those vital details you learn in those courses.
Think you both are missing the point. For example, even the most highly trained musician from Berkeley will never be a Hendrix. One's not better than the other and we should appreciate both for what they are.
@@Buildingskynet There are scientists and engineers that never got a degree, the difference is they proved they know what they're doing; this represents an extremely small percentage of people in those fields. Exceptions don't make the rule. Terrence has a good drive, but he gets even entry level things wrong (things that we know to be objectively true). Getting a formal education on the topics that he covers would serve him extremely well and expose him to concepts that he probably never heard of.
@@jasondrake2130 or let him riff and see what comes as a result. Fact of the matter is he's got people talking about it and with that it could spark an idea in someone who has more formal knowledge. With that perspective skies the limit with what could come from it.
@@jasondrake2130 even then it depends on the country. In some countries you legally need an engineering degree to call yourself an engineer.
I wish someone would be this critical with Graham Hancock
Look up miniminuteman, he does historical debunking and has a series going through that entire documentary
@@vohtarakankou I watched his critique on Graham Hancock. I'm just wishing it would happen on the Joe Rogan podcast
@Kyle Hill Did you make a mistake about Ally Costero and the "String theory lied to us and science ..." video. I think the science youtuber that made this video is Angela Collier ? Who is Ally Costero ?
You should go on the Joe Rogan podcast bruv. That would be interesting lol.
Even if you dislike his absurd levels of reach and his choice to platform people you think maybe need mental health services...he has also platformed some of the most intelligent physicists in our modern world. Lex Fridman as well. Go on his podcast too.
As a scientist that has no involvement in civil rights, there's a way to discuss mathematics in a way that doesn't involve making your social stances a key part of your persona.
Weinstein failed that test a long time ago. It's really not a difficult thing to do. People do it all the time. I seriously get annoyed when mathematicians start talking social politics, left or right.
I could understand if you're just shooting the shit on a show and the topic comes up, but Eric raves about it all over Twitter. Why do Americans platforms professionals who can't pass this simple test?
As a Russian fundamental accelerationist anarchist with some racial prejudice, I state that 1x1 = 7+2i, and if you despute that you are attacking my beliefs and religion
I was surprised at how Eric handled it. He wanted to disprove him but he also wanted to help, thought that was nice. Science, if it's science, will always win in the end, it doesn't have to be toxic.
I like your words, science man
I really appreciate your ability to push aside someone's personal life in order to be objective about what they're saying. We may not see eye to eye on everything with me being a devout Christian, but you are, to me, probably the best science educator for this generation. I especially appreciate your advocacy for nuclear power and your ability to make science not only accessible but also entertaining.
I am an atheist. I think religious beliefs and science can interact harmoniously and it makes me very happy to see active thinkers in religion. Thank you sir.
@Acrylescent I've always believed science and Christianity go hand in hand. God created us with the ability to think for a reason. I promise that most of us aren't science and medicine deniers. Some of the most important scientific discoveries were made by Christians, including Newton, Pascal, Kepler, and Mendel, to name a few. I don't understand why conflict exists between some "Christians" and the scientific community.
@@thatoneguy9473 it’s a both sides kind of issue. Very much like in this stream, both sides are not good at communicating what they think. It causes both sides to get defensive or belittling.
Like, I’m an atheist that when asked if a god exists I say I do not know. There are plenty of atheists that will say there is no god period. There is no way to know for sure because of the cosmic magnitude of the question. I can imagine for a Christian being told the center of your entire understanding of existence does not exist probably shuts off any good discussion going forward. Just like an atheist being told they are outright wrong would do the same.
There are far better ways to connect and discuss these things, but the layperson lacks the tools to do so consistently.
This is what the manic phase of bipolar disorder looks like. Classic. Flight of ideas and delusions of grandeur. It does not look like narcissistic personality disorder. I can't believe sane people are engaging with this, much less attacking the sane people who aren't buying it! It's a reflection of our very sad state where our shared reality has been split in so many ways.
assuming people are rationally sane was the first mistake in this "treaty".
showing your work is one thing but being able to articulate it is important.
Dang I love watching your videos Kyle, you're a very insightful and empathetic guy with a great head on his shoulders. Keep promoting scientific literacy!
Money ≠ Intelligence
Actually IQ heavily correlates *heavily* with income in developed nations. It's more their are exceptions, and the art industry is often where you find them (although even here, IQ correlates better than any other factor by a large margin, even parental wealth).
The problem here is that even though he concedes a little at the end... you can clearly see that he is NOT open to being proven wrong. Science is about being proven wrong more than being proven right and a good scientist accepts this truth. He needs to meditate on what it means to be a scientist and if that is actually something that he wants. He has to capacity to be a scientist... if he can accept the reality that he is wrong about so many things. But I think this is just a hobby for him... he gets pleasure from thinking that he knows what nobody else knows and it reinforces his idea of himself. I don't think he ACTUALLY wants to put in the REAL work.
NDT was much nicer to Terrance than this cat. But his little feelings got hurt when he was reviewed. NDT did it on the DL as to not crush him. Good looking out Neil.
I love how Neil was even like “What am I supposed to say?”
1:02:09 "Everyone does deserve a megaphone."
And that's how the whole world went deaf.
If Joe was in the world's biggest stadium with millions of people staring at him he would be more careful with what he said. Not seeing the audience size is a permission structure that we haven't learned to deal with yet....as humans
"his brother Bret is bad" This is the statement of someone who has not heard a single sentence said by Bret. That man is an impeccable human being.
No shit! Bit of a Weenie move to tip toe around the issue of the Weinsteins bros taboo (slandered) character. I have a ton of respect for Brett, that guy stood up against a stupid ass mob of idiots for what was right and the truth. Watching back the Evergreen college footage it looked like it was escalating to a dangerous situation at points for him.
@@kyleurbanik1879wasn’t the backlash for promoting ivermectin as an alternative to the covid vaccine?
Eric was being really nice to Terrance. Also threw some shade at Neil. Lmaoo academic beef
Neither of them are academics lol
Terrance!
T!
Seriously! What am I paying you for?
'T!? What? Where are you, dawg? It's a green day! Of course I had a coffee already. I'm fuggin American, T-zay! Can you get here in 3min? K. I'm going to try to watch Kyle & not think about it. Tip him a hondo & I'll get ya back. Tell him to stomp it! 📴
1:02:38 Free speech isn't about what is correct speech or not. It's about not letting a moral authority tell you what you can say. A free speech absolutist might say they should be free to be dumb, but choose not to be dumb, on their own. If you tell someone who's unlikely to cause bombs to be made how to make a bomb, it won't have a bad impact, but it is clearly less constructive speech than speaking about music, and simply less risky. You should however let people realize this on their own. And so platforming someone or not isn’t about what should get out or not. It's about whether or not you trust your audience to think for themselves. And "come on" is not a rational argument. I mean no disrespect, just expressing myself.
Eric Weinstein seems to be a sweetheart of a guy, and you can tell he really tried to be kind here, both in tact and in even bothering to try to get through to Howard.
“Every does deserve a megaphone” is such a nonsensical and absurd statement.
Not all voices all equal, particularly in terms of subjects like math and science. Someone who has spent no time studying something should not be given the same credence as an expert who has spent thousands of hours investigating that subject among a field of their peers.
The thing I´m still not clear on, though, is whether Kyle agrees with Eric Weinstein on a host of topics.
I think he does it’s just the politics they differ on. Kyle being a science advisor to the White House may limit how much on politics they could agree on anyway.
@@Turdstool78think it was a joke about how often Kyle had to state his side and thoughts about Eric
@@Josh-mk7ok is this a 50% hit rate? 🖖
@@Josh-mk7ok because as clever as the man is and how interesting his theories are it’s dangerous to agree with Eric not just with todays cancel culture but the science community itself will also turn on you. Kyle is just trying to walk the tightrope.
@@Turdstool78 A sad and true indictment of the world and the scientific community, no doubt!
Kyle, very objective in your analysis. Good stuff, takes effort to remove your personal thoughts and biases oit of the discussion (at least as much as possible) also chat was hella spicy this time round no?
I made it up through multivariable calculus, have always been interested in physics, and my degree is a BFA in (abstract) oil painting with a minor in illustration. I can get behind some deep thinking, looking at things with different colored glasses on (philosophically), meta povs, mixing different disciplines to see what emotions look like when interpreted in the language of physics, etc. What is produced, however, is *art*, not "new math." It can be good exercise for the brain, and you can learn tools you can use in innovative ways.
If he stopped depending on "if you don't think I'm right, then you just don't understand me" and let go of that ego, he might learn *why* people aren't understanding and (if possible) come at it differently.
Its incredible how intellectually dishonest Kyle's viewers seem to be, on a video about good faith argumentation. So quick to immediately write off Eric for example.
Tbh, Eric doesn't have the best track record
@@joe94cto Eric’s point though he’s being ignored himself because he doesn’t play ball with the science community which is why he’s on the internet trying to gain a voice. He’s ridiculed because of his politics not the science. The guy isn’t stupid and he has some brilliant ideas and can’t be dismissed as some loon with a megaphone. I get the idea that Kyle agrees with Eric on a lot of stuff just not politics and that’s fair enough.
@Turdstool78 I think Eric came off as very reasonable. Just not surprised at the audiences gut feelings
@@joe94c Eric is a very reasonable person. I suspect a conversation between him and Kyle would be must see viewing and I suspect they’d get along pretty well politics aside.
@Turdstool78 the problem is, to my understanding, he said a lot of nonsense during covid. A key time to let the experts do what they need to do. He's a mathematician, not a medical doctor
1:00:00 Joe Rogan gets to do precisely what he wants to with his podcast. It isn't even practical to think think you're going to fact-check every guest - that's absurd. Who would want to participate in or watch that?
You're a scientist - think it through, and if your answer is "slow down or stop," then it's not a real answer.
While I think Joe and Terrence are some of the biggest purveyors of stupidity out there, I do kind of want to watch this interview simply to watch Terrence squirm under the weight of someone that actually knows what they're talking about.
I bet you are fun at parties.
@@Buildingskynet No idea how you can extrapolate that from my post. Wanna walk me through that roadmap?
@@Prototheria think your response pretty much sums it up.
Bruhh what are you talking about ?? Grammar ?? He didn't even know the meaning of the word !!! Didn't you just watch that, 5 seconds ago that Eric said about meaning !! Not grammar.. That is the worst analogy ever.. Lol
Edit : 56:05 .. See ?!!! That's what I'm talking about. You finally said it !! DEFINITION & LANGUAGE !! Not GRAMMAR .. How the hell is he gonna understand grammar when he didn't even understand the language and the word definition !! I didn't even consider myself a genius but why am I always right ? It seems like I'm predicting the future but in reality I already know the outcome.. Like this outcome that everyone already knows is 1+1 = 2 !! Ohh lord !! My brain is screaming.. Both sides are wrong.. Dumb teacher try to teach dumb student.. Nahh, I'm joking.. That might be too far.. Sorry.. But that just fact..
I like your videos, Kyle. You're undoubtably a very intelligent and knowledgeable person. I think it's good that people like you, Neil and Eric, speaks out against these types of ideas. My one criticism, is that you are very hung up on Eric's politics and things he's said in the past.
I understand that American politics and social media is very different from it is here in Sweden. And I can understand and sympathize that you feel the need to defend yourself from being associated with Eric. But I think it is a bit like what you are discussing right now.
(DISCLAIMER: Incoming hyperbole) If Hitler had said "the Earth is not flat, but rather a sphere." I feel I could confidently cite Hitler without having to disavow myself from his ideology or actions. Because what he has said is the factual truth, no matter how much of a monster he was. Personally, I think I'd cite another source, but I'm sure you understand the point I'm trying to make.
I'm not saying you have to change, that was just something I noticed.
Otherwise, I fully agree with you and I think Neil did a good job, but the internet has become a troubled place where people reject science and objective reality. It's baffling. I get TikToks of someone who works in space, or rather posts videos from people in space. And a minimum of half the comments are talks about how it's a "Hollywood set", or "CGI", etc. I think the vast majority of them are joking and trolling. Nonetheless, it gets the message out there, and it affects others to believe in similar things.
As for Howard. I believe he's a grifter. He sells himself and his ideas. Look at how much attention he got from this. Even his role in Iron Man couldn't compare, and I liked him in that movie!
Enough babbling from me, good job and keep on fighting the good fight.
P.S. It should be said that I personally like Eric. Well, I like what he has to say and how he presents himself in scientific topics. I've read something about some theory he has that doesn't hold water. That's not something I am smart enough to back up, so I will of course go with what the majority of the scientific community says is right. I am as pleb as it comes in matters of science, but I'm not so pleb that I ignore smarter people than myself.
i feel like the most wild thing i'll learn from this video is that the "Is it better than gender studies?" people actually exist
Because it’s so evident that it isn’t or that it is?
@@eduardosantana8300 someone using diminishing gender studies for the sake of flaming someone with a doctorate is the point, not whether or not they are right in their subjective perspective
@@whizthesugoi right, but that is not what I asked. And I only asked because the doctorate on communications, talks about the danger of messing with epistemological processes already established. The chaos that ensures. So It’s fair to ask…
@@eduardosantana8300 I don't understand the question then, sorry
@@whizthesugoi the question is, “is it better than gender studies”
Given all the points made in the video by the doctorate in communications