Which Version of Final Fantasy VIII Should You Play? - All FFVIII Ports Reviewed & Compared
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- My review & comparison of all of the ports of Final Fantasy VIII, along with Final Fantasy VIII Remastered to hopefully help you determine which version you'd like to play. Thank you to Square for providing review codes for the PS4, Xbox One and Steam versions of Final Fantasy VIII Remastered! Whether it's on PSX, PC, or PS4/Switch/Xbox One. Whether you're looking for portability, mods or That PSX Aethetic, there's a version you might want to consider playing.
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0:00 - Intro
1:04 - PSX Version
3:23 - PC Version
6:05 - Steam Version
9:12 - Remastered
16:46 - Final Thoughts
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01:48
“Squall, you’re forgetting something... Your GF.”
“No, you’re standing right in front of me.”
I would’ve taken Quistis over Rinoa if I were Squall
@@SeFu2006 Quistis is mommy
Chaos Yeshua a sexy momma
@@SeFu2006 I would've chosen Selphie and I'm basically as much Squall as one can be. Never before or after this did I identify with a character as much as I did with him. It felt like they took my personality, but made it look cool! And Rinoa was always a bit too intrusive for my tastes. It felt like she was practically forcing him into a relationship and I never really liked that approach.
@NotJo Mommy is better
Cant wait for 2029 for the Remake...
Well with how ff7 remake is going, I'd be happy if ff8,9 get the same treatment. I dont care if they completely change the battle system, as long as they keep the junction somehow I will gladly play the game
They won't, they would remake 6 or 9 before 8, maybe even 10.
@@HittokiriBattousai17 10 would not get a remake before 8 as it still looks pretty good and has had HD remakes anyway its not needed imo
I cant even see them remaking any other FFs tbh. They remade FF7 for a reason, it’s the most famous, most sales, most fans, most nostalgia etc.....although after FF7 most ‘famous’ would be FFX then 8,13 and 15. 1-6 and 9 just don’t seem like they’re ‘remakable’ in the way FF7 is being remade just because they’re more traditional FFs. Everything after 9 looks good enough to go without being remade so actually that only leaves FF8. And now I’m going in circles cuz I started with saying nothing will be remade. 😂😂 But yeah FF8 is rly the own one I could see being remade, but in the next few years they’re clearly gonna milk FF7R as much as possible. Although if FFX was remade in a new way I wouldn’t be mad lol it was my first game years ago and still my fav. Can’t wait till 2051
@@TanteiGH 13 sucks balls to most ff fans and 9 and 6 are far more popular than 8 lmao
I played through 7 and 8 when they were relatively new. Amazing how much the imagination will fill in when there's nothing better to compare it to. I doubt I could play it through again in it's original form but the remaster has been great so far. I remember thinking the backgrounds were such eye candy. Interesting that the Switch version doesn't improve them. The backgrounds really made memorable for me.
with emulation and the built in upscaler the originals are 100% playable
Yea I was thinking about when it came out and suddenly felt like a dino. I got 8 since all my friends got it, psx just got cheaper so finally got one beyond my n64 and the time frame when I finally able to beat time long invested games because I had an attention span at end of grade school (ironic I've lost that now 😅..could never play any game more than 10 hrs before I'm like yea change games then end up forgetting I own it haaa)
Great Review.. loved it. I completed both Psx and original PC versions, tons of times.. Psx FF8 is a charming release! Aaaaaand... that trick of opening the cover of the CD drive during summoning of Guardian Forces is just incredible! It lets you scroll Selphie's special attack 'Slot' as much time as needed to let those monster abilites come up ('The End', that clears ANY battle in an instant, also boss fights...and more..). But of course, I loved PC version because of the chocobo game (easily cheatable with some easy german application for Windows pc)- the chick levels up and becomes just a monster in battles, especially useful for battles on the world map.
FF8 is a lovable game, an unforgettable story, a sadly underrated title. Won't ever get the authors' truth about the Rinoa-Artemysia dualism.
if it wasn't for the original 8 version we wouldn't have the meme about how he's the most handsome person in the room and then shows his face up close looks it was put through a blender.
I thought the same thing until I gave it a try. Give it a half hour and you probably won't think anything of it.
My favorite FF game. So many memories of the hours and hours leveling up every character/GF to their maximum levels, getting all Triple Triad cards, kicking Omega and Ultima Weapons' butts... I would love to play it again after all those years but damn this new Squall look really pushes me away.
the first game that lets you take a selphie
The best kind of Selphie :)
Underrated comment, lmao xD!
Oh geez haha, here's your like!
Haha before "selfie" was word or a thing.
remember she invtented facebook
I'm almost 100% sure they used the same Squall character model from the PSP Dissidia game.
same for laguna
Laguna might be true, but squall is 100% not the dissidia model, i currently play it and he looks different
Don't know but I don't like it very much. Squall looks much better in the older model... Now it looks too cartoonish
@Pokémon & FF fan I also loved Dissidia's graphic style. It reminds me so much of the booklets.
🤔🤔🤔🤔 yeah different lol
The PSX version is still the best. No dithering and texture wobbling should be great but it actually looks worse on those "modern" ports.
Duckstation and FF8 is the way to go, if you have a PC that is.
Squall looks so much cooler in the original version with the way his hair is brushed up. There's just something elegant about it. The remaster version makes him look like he just woke up. I really don't like how they made him look like a generic anime character.
True
They turned Squall into a brunette Tidus
Oh, you mean anime Meg Ryan? Ugh... you're right.
myeah... I absolutely hate the NT dissidia Squall look.
Nomura is fucking weird sometimes.
Peter Lazar lol isn’t he gay?
This is why I wasnt that excited about this remaster
@@matrixlone i wasn't excited for this remaster because the 2 ff remasters i have played were vastly inferior to the originals. in ffx remaster i had quite a few glitches and speech cutting out that i never had in the original and they redid the character faces for the worse, no idea why. ffxii was one of my favorite ff games because it was one of the most challenging of them all and in zodiac age that challenge is gone, it went from hard mode to very easy mode with no option to play at the original difficulty i very much preferred.
for me at least, i'm convinced they can't even do a simple remaster without ruining it with unnessessary changes. if they wanted to make xii easier for casuals then add an easy mode for them, don't ruin the whole game for those who liked the challenge in the original. as for the faces in ffx, watch a comparison video and like most, you'll probably think the faces look the best in the ps2 version.
C'mon square patch the backgrounds with an AI upscaler. Fans have done it on the PC versions.
i had to stop playing bc of that
They should be able to update it.
I should mention Nomura has publicly floated the idea of a FF8 re-master once they're done with FF7. So not much incentive to make current versions look too great.
I kind of hope they don't though. I mean I hope they do fully remaster 8. It was always my favourite. I just don't want it to run on the same engine as FF7 remake and essentially play the same way.
@@feenix1033 There is nothing wrong with the game engine, it is capable of doing lots of needed things just fine. The problem is in the developers who don't know what are they doing or ignore what their job really is. I rather get nothing instead of their wasted time and resources to make another halfassed remake which is a spin-off milking it with dlc and microtransactions so as cutting the whole game into episodics which is again made to milk the naive idiots. Release the full game respecting every original aspect of it and make it onto two discs if needed or don't do anything at all. In a age where most things are auto generated and user friendly they struggle to use what is in front of their eyes. They make these halfassed craps and wonder why people don't buy enough copies. Put actual effort into your work and do your job properly so your product will sell more. I am seriously sick of this broken game products agenda that is going on, some companies takes one game to develop in 5+ years then they cut it down to episodes or dlc, take 5% or 10% and sell it of a full game price or even more. Even if the game would be on one disc complete it fails to respect the original games story, designs etc, lacks in everything. Where a 20-30 year old game offers far more then a modern day game. So thanks but no thanks.
@@P33b4Ugo5omwh3r3 You don't really seem to accept the gravity of the basic point here. Square don't have the source code for FF8, therefore cannot do the things you're suggesting. The rest of your post is a rant about games in general and nothing to do with FF8.
1999: 11/10 would bang Shiva and Siren
2019: still 11/10 would bang Shiva and Siren
@MaztaPan nah, cactuar will do you, no lube
I’d have Zell just to hear him scream.
Bro it's a cartoon basically you alright?
@Airock the Great who care
@BBG Video87 💀💀💀
Whenever I have source data from hit titles, I usually place it on a harddrive in an unmarked shoebox and toss it into the ocean. I'll hope to find it when the time comes.
There's your mistake, shoulda put it in a bottle
I love that they took time to remodel Siren to cover the golden bush but left Shiva's big blue porthole covering alone.
And Ifrit's flaming man bush. SE is stupid
@Manannan anam So far it's been Rinoa's small cleavage covered entirely, of course the Tifa debacle and the girl from Dragon Quest Legend of Dai has leggings now instead of bare legs. It's the "black treatment" All the ones I mentioned are covered in black, undershirt, power bra and leggings lol!
@@blumiu2426 well they redesigning it now tifa remake looks good tho it looks better and modern imo
@@dxtremecaliber I've nothing against redesigns, but "modernizing" is not a good reason as it make little sense in context other than giving character designer something to do. They barely changed anything with the designs for them, though covering Tifa up on legs and boobs was priority. They covered up the legs on the one character from DQ: Adventures of Dai who hadn't for 30 years. SE has a censorship department, so no one try and argue otherwise.
@@blumiu2426 . I Don't know, I don't care, I just know that Tifa's design in the remake is my favorite, she looks way better with all that black contrast the leggings and the bra gave her.
She is my favorite character in the entire franchise, but I always thought her outfit was somewhat simple, and the reason I liked the AC outfit even more, but the remake outfit for me is a total improvement, So I won't complain about "censorship" when she actually looks better and still looks sexy.
The censorship of Rinoa's cleavage was unnecessary I give you that one. About Siren, well, I am in the middle, because she actually looks somewhat cool, but at the same time it feels somewhat forced because the censorship is completely obvious there, they should have kept the Steam version, that one was already perfect (unless people really have the urge to see her completely naked).
If they were going to change Squall's head/face it should have been to match the FMV version of his face/head. Everyone else's character design looks more like an upgraded version of the original design - Squall's design is an upgraded graphic, but looks totally different and not like himself. If fan versions of the game can upgrade the backgrounds to be high definition / sharpened, then Square Enix should certainly have had the technology to do the same for this re-release. Very disappointing, and clashes with the HD character designs.
Was about to comment about the same thing. I agree 100% with you - especially the part about Squall's head. They should have sticked to his original fmv appearance instead of trying to make him look cute for a younger audience.
Exactly!!!!!
He looks younger which frankly he kind of should considering hes 17 , in the original he looked like he was in his 30's
@@TheSilverPhoenix100 it doesn’t matter what you think about his age, he still doesn’t look like himself or match the FMVs. Frankly no one in the game looks their age. they made him look like an anime boy by lazily reusing his dissidia model with maybe some slight modifications
@@extra4542 Nope looks like Squall still just younger, which is fine
I was SO into this, I actually ordered the mini PS pocket version. Turns out I still have that. Gives you MASSIVE advantages.
The ribbons.
I actually owned the '99 Eidos PC version back in the day, along with the original FF7 PC port! I still loved them, but I never quite grasped exactly how poor they were in comparison to the PSX originals. Even the crappy .midi sound, though, couldn't stop "Man with the Machine Gun" from being an absolute banger.
It was a decent way to play it back in the day if you didnt have a psx. I remember they had higher res fmv. I feel like they tried much harder back then with pc ports than they do now.
@@alanlee67 I feel like a lot more effort and consideration, but not necessarily as much accumulated expertise, may have gone into it. It would have been a vastly harder job in 1999 than it is today, and the optimization (poor as it was) still would have to have been a lot tighter just because contemporary computers couldn't be counted on to be dozens, if not hundreds, of times more powerful than the old PSX!
The PC version was also my introduction to FF7 back in the day. With the included Yamaha XG software installed, the music didn't sound too bad. Without it, sounded awful.
Was this the 4-disc PC port that came in a light blue laminated paper-ish booklet? That port was *rough* 😂 Disc 2 would always make my Compaq Presario sound like a garbage disposal.
The midis did sound good with the right synthesizer used - but also the game received music-mods very very early on already.
Wow, you got this done a lot faster than I expected. Great work! Thanks for clearing up some of the information I wasn't completely sure on.
It's crazy that Squall looks completely different...
They completely fucked up his character design imo. He looks like a complete different person. Not even cool anymore. No buy.
It's so true. The new charakter design is shit.
It's like changing the actor in your favourite tv series. Unacceptable!
It’s how he looks in Dissidia..... it’s not completely different it just makes it so his face doesn’t look like a crushed sandwich
@@AsakuraEX Squall in the remaster looks nothing like the Dissidia NT model. You have to be either blind or just ignorant to not see that.
¬ ×erαliZε ¬ Did I say NT? I’m talking about psp dissidia
I had the PC version growing up, my computer could barely run it. This was the fist final fantasy that I 've ever played, and I still love it.
Thats funny, I had the ps1 version but I emulated it too (never even knew there was a pc version back then). Was amazing back in the day to see a ps1 game running at 800x600 or higher with smoothing.
Good work on the video, and pretty educational.
Its never been difficult to enjoy games, and this remaster has rekindled my attachment to VIII
oh god those remastered faces are not what i imagined the characters looking for 20 years
It should of been done with more love.
They look horrible. Still prefer the original
I could have given the faces a pass if they threw some facial animation in there but with the combination of baby-face and blank facial expressions they have never looked more soulless. It was better when the blanks were left more up to the imagination.
@@Cooperal definitely
yeah, they just copy-pasted the dissidia models.
I hope one day they completely remake it
If they do more remakes it will most likely be next, it has some of the best art design in the series. Such a unique game.
I hope not.
They have said they will make remakes as long as people want them, so i think it's highly likely this will be done in the future
I'd rather see Square Enix remake other games. The Parasite Eve games DEFINITELY deserve remakes, as does Vagrant Story.
I hope so too, but I don't know tbh. They've been working on Final Fantasy 7 for like 6 years now. Pretty sure it's stuck in development hell
Turning squal into a kpop band member was downright criminal. Squal was conceived from the get go to have a very strong european style to him. Normua himself directly stated river pheonix as key inspiration to his visual design.
Tetsuya Nomura is senile
I agree his new look is terrible.
Idk he looks the exact same as he used to look in kingdom hearts or any cinematic imo
Then you should take that up with Nomura who designed him that way in both Dissidia and Kingdom Hearts which to him are his canon designs.
@@BlueLightningSky They are trash designs. Nomura has only gotten worse over the years with the more creative freedom he has been afforded. Just because he may have had a change of mind or interest, or if there was more interveiton from others to reign him in, the fact remains.
damn this was a super in depth review and super helpful, thanks!
This was really well done, thank you! It's still a little hard to decide, but I'm leaning toward modded PC. Seems like there's no real 'definitive version' otherwise.
I'm playing the remaster nowadays. I finished the original PSX version back in 1999, my first JRPG and RPG is this game.
I believe even just the Balamb Garden vs. Galbadia Garden portion of the game deserves a remake like the FFVII Remake. Hoping for Square to remake FFVIII next
Jesterday Plays Balamb Garden isn’t big enough to be its own game like Midgar
@@blueblase9981 I was talking about the battle scene between two gardens and how it would be awesome if recreated with modern technology. Solely that part of the game makes it eligible for a remake. I don't want a whole part in Balamb Garden lol
It would be a good moment in, like, Kingdom Hearts IV or something. It also would have been an awesome addition to the Mobius crossover except that it would not have fit in with what they wound up doing.
Maybe if Mobius gets a proper release one day and not as a maldita cell phone app.
@@FollowMe4REP God I hope Mobius gets a console release with all its updates and seasonal content
@@Coreisus Too bad that it's dead now.....
You left out that starting from the moment Cid first talks to you, they frequently missed applying HD to characters models - including Cids while he's standing in front of the sign. All the people who are not walking in Deling City are all PSX quality.
That's because those "character models" are actually part of the background texture. They did this as a workaround to show more characters on screen than the PS1 was capable of showing.
I had a lot of bad info about later releases. I appreciate this video so much!
Been waiting for this one! Thanks for all your hard work! Really appreciated.^^
I've had the pleasure of owning multiple versions of this game, and I have to reiterate your initial point. There is no wrong way to enjoy this game. For all its quirks and shortcomings, FF8 is a unique and entertaining game. I'm currently playing through the remaster on my Switch, and it is particularly excellent when undocked. Also, Triple Triad! 'Nuff said. Excellent comparison work as always!
Hi , how well it runs? 60 fps ? Does have fps drops?
@@AgosLive @12:42 he states the official numbers. I can agree with these on Switch. In docked and undocked modes I haven't noticed any framerate drops or hanging, even when using 3x speed. I hope that helps!
That’s literally what he said.
I don't like the new model of Squall in the remastered though; why they changed him?
@@VerdeAnticohe was heavily Leonardo Di Caprio likeness (course so was Leon Kennedy this inspired). Speculation: When the pixels are low res, they can get away with it. Maybe even though he don't look like that any more, they can't risk it?
I think something I would have altered for a Remaster is with the magic system. Drawing and Junctioning magic would remain, but Drawing would give larger quantities (so that you're not wasting time just waiting for a Draw Point to restock) and instead of casting using up what you've got, the power of the spell is based on how much you've drawn. So, for example, having 5 Firaga would have you casting Firaga at 5% strength, rather than using up a cast of it (though that would also possibly involve reintroducing MP).
Honestly, this remaster would've been absolutely perfect. The character models are an improvement especially the particle effects but the huge drawback to everything is the loss in quality to the backgrounds and FMV's
Hopefully someone mods it with AI upscaling at some point :D
Check out the Satsuki yatoshi mod for FF7
Remaster they look weird TBH. Like looking at the PSX vs the remaster I could tell you more about the characters motivations and background by looking at the grainy old version than the new pretty one.
Yup. Unplayable imo. Lame excuse of losing the original source files when modders took the original compressed backgrounds of 7 and 9 and made them look great for free. Horrible job SE
@@alanlee67 I wouldnt go as far as saying unplayable lol
@@alanlee67 fucking dumb fuck play it and shut up its good 👍 😊 😌
I played this game in Highschool...God time flies....Rinoa was practically my first love lolz.........:(
same man, good times
Same ×3
that's just sad
Same
real men loved Quistis.
Steam version with mods.
HD models, HD backgrounds, HD music, HD menus, HD localization, HD text boxes.
The absolute best way to play.
The only right answer. Modders care more about the game than Square. This has always been the case.
hd music?
@@therealafk2430 Roses and Wine. Uncompressed original music files and the option for additional tracks.
or switch if you want portable which why not when playing such an old game? plus in the undocked mode it looks really good
God bless the nerds.
11:00 The Siren transitions
I never noticed until JUST THIS MOMENT that the crotch area may as well have been pubes. The final redesigned version made such a point to redo that area that it just called extra attention to it, especially when juxtaposed with the other images. Not even once did it occur to me. SMH LOL
I love JRPGs because reading text gets me into it more then just watching movie like voice acting
I got the Remaster on Switch and PC via Steam. I love having VII-X and XII on Switch and hoping mods or official patches will make the PC version of the Remaster even better!
IAMBrenner Im from Brazil and i can’t buy from Nintendo Store. It says that the page are dealing with some issues.
Now we wait for the Pixel Remasters on Switch.
it's cool that with only a few different portable consoles we can play 1-12 portably.
@@paperluigi6132 that would be awesome because then 1-12 will finally all be on one system.
I was waiting for this video! Thank you
I really like your review and comparisons it was a really awesome and detailed explaination too. Thank you.
Thank you, this video was just what I was looking for!!! :D
It's not my favorite FF but it has some absolutely superb concepts that we definitely need a remake for. I played it again last year and enjoyed it a lot more playing with a guide for obtaining the best cards for junctioning.
This game seems like it needs a remake more than the rest. The concepts it introduced could be a lot better in a modern release. I started playing this for the first time and it's pretty good but the obnoxious trade and play rules in the card games make it very frustrating trying to get the good stuff. A mod or remake could make that process alone easy to change and it would be a very fun game.
One quick thing I want to mention is the Steam FMVs are the same as the Remastered FMVs, but are different in one respect to the 2000 PC FMVs. The FMVs in the 2000 version are higher-quality 640x480 video, not an upscale of the PS1 version at all. The Steam version took these 480p videos and "upscaled" them to 1080p by applying a bilinear filter over each movie. I wish you had managed to acquire the 2000 PC version in some fashion for a more proper FMV comparison. For the record, Kayael's fan-made FMV upscale (Which does a much better job than the official releases) is based off of the 480p videos from 2000.
Every single track in ff8 is memorable.
I still think it can get a lot better, its beautiful for what it is remastered esp, it just goes to show how much more it really can be brought still
I actally like the pixelated look of the PS1 version. I don't understand why pixels are seen as bad for the PS1 but not older systems.
Thank God I still keep my copy I actually beat the game with a game shark CD rom on the last disc...it was the first one I beat since 7 was hard. I beat 9 10 10 2 but not 12
on 480p, when nothing better existed; these graphics were fucking amazing.
you kinda just needed to be there at the time it was first released to understand the experience.
@@drippinwet774 psx is 240P
Ryuzaki Raiga sorry. i spent more time trying to build social relationships than i did on understanding video resolutions.
@@drippinwet774 Instead of acting like a dick, I think what you meant is: "Thank you for correcting the false information I pulled out of my ass".
In case you needed clarification the definitive version of the game can be downloaded and played on PS3.
I really can't believe that Square lost the source code for this game and other games. It's just mindblowing to me that a VG company as high profile as they are could do that. And they and their fans have seemed to have payed the price over the years. A sad and unfortunate situation.
it was lost during the tsunami in 2012. they lost alot more than just video games
@@maiastniki No they didn't 🤦♂️ the tsunami only slowed progress of currently made games. You really think they didn't back up everything elsewhere? You're a clown 🤡
@@maiastniki thus is why they keep multiple copies in multiple countries now to prevent you have to have the problem occur to learn from it
@@maiastniki also their are higher ups who have it they just want it for themselves
@@maiastniki They lost most of them long before that.
Might grab the remaster and upscale all the backgrounds myself.
Squall no longer resembles River Phoenix anymore. Kinda sad about that. But I'm happy to be playing it on console again.
Now the rumors he was supposed to look like Gackt came true lol! He just doesn't look right. I've vowed that whenever I do fanart of him, it will always be based on his first design.
12:55 I don't mind the swap, recent RPG has menus on triangle and circle for cancels.
Nice, very well informed and straight to the point video! Thank you for clearing up a lot of the differences between the 4 releases! Can definitely tell you've done your research! What are the chances you'd be able to do a FF8 story summarised in 7-10 min? No one has anything good out =\
Thanks for the video.
I just couldn’t play the remastered version, I couldn’t deal with the updated model for Squall…
You missed 1 more error: In PSX, when sorceress Edea appears in battle, the sound is chimes. But on the Remaster, the sound is Astral Punch.
Ps1 is known as both ps1 and psx at least in north america.
@@densetsu4286 no its just Playstation/psx. the psOne is the final updated edition of of the psx. not only was it tiny, it had overclocked hardware just like the previous revision, but more importantly it was a portable system with a lcd screen n speakers that came with a car 12 volt power adapter. that and it touted their high end track skip protection from the diskman.
@@zeroa69 um no. Nobody besides sony has ever called playstation just playstation since the ps2 era. It's been referred as ps1 or psx since then. However it started getting its psx moniker when psone released to distinguish between the two.
Alright. That did it! Not getting the remastered version.
*Witch
They gave squall a diferent hairstyle for some reason xD
omg yeah. its long and doesnt suit him. they make him like the dissidia one. i hate it
Had ff8 on ps1 back in the day, such a great time for video games when you had the time and you didn't get as bored so quickly with a game and move on to the next hot new release the next day.
i was blown away by the fmv's for 8. it was the first time in final fantasy characters looked like real people outside their portrait's.
Amazing video, it was very well done :)
Squall's look in the remastered version is a crime.
Barely any difference and even so it matters little
@@larrote6467 It matters a lot i have not picked it up because that is not squall its the kingdom hearts character if you watch the cgi cutscene in the original ff8 then he looks completely different then i hate his voice in disidia he sounds like a Italian gangster like that movie actor Ray Liotta
It is so bad it is unplayable due to it lol
Great video! Honestly this may have sold me on the Remaster. I originally prepurchased it but refunded it once I saw screenshots of the backgrounds. Seeing it in motion and being reminded that there are mods that come out for PC may have me wanting to buy it again. How amazing would it be if an incredibly talented team created ALL NEW 2D assets?
Helpful as always, pal. 👍🏻
good analysis of this, really good job, and i guess i will get the remastered for pc thanks to you. Chocobo game is already included there also?
I don't get why they didnt just use ESRGAN on the backgrounds.
@Justin Saephan lol maybe they should have spent months working on it ??
They never give the love this game deserves hope one day it gets a real remake
It doesn't deserve it
@@solgaleooflight8703 Perhaps it doesnt deserve it, but it needs it. The whole junction system can be exploited too much. FF9 deserves it, but doesnt need it for example.
@@JakTheRipperX ff8 is a good game,(I don't like it though) but there are others who are in need of a remake more than 8, like 6. Besides, the ps1 graphics aged really well and still look good even today
dude go back and actually look at ff8, and you'll find it is the worse written game in history. The game design itself the battle are actually kinda cool, then look at the world and story, and you'll find its horrible, the characters and the dialogue are horrible.
When i was a kid i thought it was great, went through the remaster with no change too the dialogue and wow was i shocked. The fighting was still cool, but game is too easy but the story and dialogue were cringe worthy. Things happen without ever seeing the cause and the whole world revolves around the main cast.
@AustinSV at the 16 minute mark you mention that some issues you have discussed in past videos have been patched later. Are these relating to your videos on final fantasy 7 and 9? If so what was patched?
Well Raijin now makes me thirstier than before...
i love the remaster ♡
(maybe someone will do the backgrounds justice with a A.i gigapixel mod on steam)
Should go to Qhimm, the main site for FF mods, awesome peeps are already working on a number of things for it right now. ^_^
that's exactly what i was thinking...
I really don't know why people think the original FF VIII (and VII) PC Version has a different musictrack than on the PSX. In fact they have the same MIDI Tracks. However the PSX has a _way_ better Sythesizer than most PCs have. A simple (yet not huge) improvement is to install a different software sythesizer in Windows.
Anyway great Videos :) I like the in detail comparisons you provide for the games - very good work.
Software synths are a major hassle, though they are useful beyond one game... You can also use a Creative card and SoundFont, which is even harder to install.
Switch version bonus: There is a physical copy available, the twin-pack that bundles it with FF7, Asia & Europe only(but region-free).
Even better, i got it today just as i read this.
I got the switch version along with ff7 twin pack, cant wait to finish digimon cybersleuth to start them both. Loved these games as a kid
The original grainy models are beautiful and iconic.
The biggest issue with the remaster is the cartoon look they gave Squall. In the original FMV’s.. he had a sharp, chiselled look.. he looked serious and grown up. In the remaster he looks so young and cartoony, completely different feel to the guy
To be fair he’s 17
isn't he like 17? What do you expect?
It's why I can't play the remastered! I think I'll just stick to the steam release with mods.
Squall was based on River Phoenix. I'd as easily argue he's supposed to look like a 20-something Hollywood actor playing a 17yo.
The blurry backgrounds are unfortunate and I agree they could have done better improving that--but my god, the remaster looks worth it for the character models alone! HUGE improvement!
Great video, thanks!
Why the hell isnt analogue added yet? Its been 20 frikin years!
lazyness
Because they had to use the PC version code from what I understand.
@@ath3lwulf533 and they cant add analogue controls to the PC version?
@Frank Marano Pretty much, but im sure modders on PC will look forward to getting their hands on the PC remaster version and mod that. I would much rather have widescreen support over analogue controls tbh
@Frank Marano Well you dont really need a super PC to be running FF8 remaster so a cheap laptop could run this or the highly modded FF8 steam release with no problems at all.
If there's ever a remake I hope they finally use all they had planned for Laguna, which was to take up half the game and had its own maps and all.
grats, great review! Except does the remaster have Debug Mode?
Wow this was well made. Good job
I played the EU PC version back around 2000 when it came out! It still had working transitions. The music is actually MIDI based in both versions, but the integrated sound bank in the Playstation game is based on Roland SC-88. In the PC version, the game would load custom DLS sample bank made by Yamaha instead, and if you had a Yamaha PCI soundcard, it could render them in higher quality - i didn't. It was also supposed to work like that on a handful other PCI sound cards with DirectMusic and DLS support, maybe Aureal Vortex, S3 SonicVibes, Trident 4D Wave, ESS Allegro? Not sure. I had none of those either, i had an SB Live, which was really more powerful, but it lacked that feature because Creative are rats. I seem to remember that the game force installed a Yamaha software synthesizer systemwide, in order to support all of that magic and give you a decent sound in case you didn't have the right hardware. Word of note, custom DLS for the game contains a full GM set, some patches outside of it, and some fully custom patches like the voice samples that sing "Fithos Lusec Wecos Vinosec" for a couple songs outside cutscenes, so guess what you're missing out on if the MIDI signal gets routed to an incompatible synthesizer! Besides usually all semblance of quality, especially if the synthesizer happens to be the horrible Microsoft butchered version of SC-55 built into Windows, which is subtly mistuned, downsampled, and lacks... reverb, chorus, LFO, LPF, just about every necessary synth feature you can think of. Obviously some things broke, like Yamaha S-XG50 can not be installed under more modern versions of Windows than 98/ME i think.
So on Playstation, obviously everything sounds... exactly as it's intended to, and lush reverb hides the sins, and on PC with software Yamaha XG, it sounds... well, more Yamahaish, sharper attack, weaker sustain, overall i don't hate it.
Very disappointing background work on the remaster. ESRGAN came out in 2018!
I'm glad someone else picked him up on the soundtrack.
I’m glad you commented this. I feel like such interesting details would be lost to the ever expanding marching of time if not for people like you.
Bought this for switch and in steam. No regret enjoyed this game so much ♥️
Why people gush over half assed remasters is beyond me.
thank you for this explanation!
Wasnt the pocket station also for the Chocobo GF that was only available through that?
Nomura: "More core players on PC, therefore, they get more game enhancers."
Also Nomura: "Here. Now you don't have to make cheat engines. Just take all this and don't mod our game."
PC players: Challenge Accepted.
I still use the cheat engine on remastered. There's freedom in it, like I can have Cactuar GF with Junk-Shop abillity, or I can have unlimited time on Zell's limit.
I like the cheat engines whenever I wanna scroll through the game quickly without grinding
So mind boggling they censored Siren's original design lol
But not Shiva's
I like your videos a lot I appreciate this much
3:26 “you would have to go out of your way to get your hands on this version”
Well, about that…
Went to the movies today, and my friend told me she went to the thrift store, and got me a copy of the game… so now I have the Eidos PC Version! And I’m determined to play it now too!
I really enjoy your port reviews. There are things I haven’t noticed or known about before.
But as I’m sure as someone else has said, you can still get all GFs in the game even if you miss drawing them the first time.
The cursor "that's supposed to flicker" is actually supposed to look translucent. Many games used 60 fps flicker as a way to achieve pseudo-translucency. You can see this technique in use even in NDS games
Highly doubt it. These games were able to produce actual transparency, so they shouldn't have had to resort to flickering. If you leave the flickering programming but just increase the FPS, then the flicker is so fast that it is unnoticeable and you get transparency instead.
A specific example I remember is when playing A Link to the Past in SNES vs GBA. Whenever there were tremors, there was a 2-frame diagonal shaking of the ground. In the GBA version this was too fast, so instead of a clear shaking motion all you would see is the environment getting diagonally blurred.
super metroid uses it a lot, so much so that if you record gameplay and lock it to 30, samus is invisible through huge chunks of the game unfortunately along with lava and a bunch of other things. :/
Being my second favorite (behind 12) as soon as i saw it on the psn for my ps3 and psp i immediately bought it and was pleased that it was almost identical to the psx with the new option for analog movement
Thank you for the video, very detailed, good job :) One of my fondest memories from PSX era, love FF 7 slightly more due to impact it made at that time. Could get teary here... it's profound. Yet I might surprise any reader of this post that my all time favourite JRPG is Parasite Eve
I REALLY want to buy this, but why can't they fix the damn backgrounds... -___-
Honestly, the thing that (really) bothers me, is not having analog movement in the remaster, otherwise, its everything i wanted or was expecting of it.
Too bad you can’t switch like you could on the ps3. That helped me when I was playing mgs1 for the first time
GF boost works better now in the remastered version? Pc
Can I still do the maxing of GF abilities using the card ability during the early levels? In the remastered I mean
This game has such a special place in my heart. I absolutely love it
The first FF that i played in my life. Soo good!
Such a good video. Thank you.
aiiiight, it's time i guess, installation has once more begun :'D hope the remake comes soon^^ i heard they will make remakes from ff8 and 9 like they are doing with 7 at the moment... can't wait
The PC 2000 version looks like its being played on bleem! emulator.
The original ff7 and 8 PC ports were pretty much that, an emulator to run the PS game on PC. (Using better 3d card so better graphic -_-;)
The issue I have with 90% of remastered games are the SUPER HIDEOUS fonts they keep using. Makes it look like a mobile game.
Which font do you think would befit their text boxes more? I really don't know how any font can be good for this game's plain grey box.
the fonts are so much lol
I agree so much. I fucking hate the menu's they use too.
Dude, FFVI modern ports are worse. Overall everything from the game looks like a mobile game made from RPG Maker.
Eh, normally I would agree with you, but in FF8 .... the font is very close to what the original PS1 version had. Not exact, but close. At least it isn't like, say, FF9.
are the gun blades sharp edged on both sides?
cuz cifer is seemingly threatening president foofoo with the blunt side of his weapon.
3 years late, but I just found this video. The amount of detail you put into each video is amazing, especially tracking down the history of each port.
I have a question since I didn't see it mentioned here (unless I just missed it). I have the PSV (and PS3) version of the game ,which I didn't see mentioned on here. I was wondering what version these games would be based off of because the models look decidedly different from on PS4 or Remastered. They look closer to the original PSX (which is why I prefer playing FF7-FF9 in general on PSV), but there's no mention of these ports, so I'm curious.
Dunno if you've found out already in the time since you made this comment, but the PlayStation Network (PSP/Vita/PS3) releases of Final Fantasies VII-IX are all based on the original PSX releases of the games, pretty much unchanged.